---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/30/04: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: rv-8 builders web sites (Doug Gray) 2. 04:13 AM - Re: RV-6 or -7 center arm rest question (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 3. 05:01 AM - Re: toe in (Bob U.) 4. 06:08 AM - Re: Microair 760/Flighttech Intercom (RVEIGHTA@aol.com) 5. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Fw: [rv8list] T'Bird shot. (Rob Prior) 6. 09:05 AM - Re: toe in (lucky macy) 7. 09:38 AM - Re: Anywhere WX and others? (Kai Schumann) 8. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Fw: [rv8list] T'Bird shot. (flmike) 9. 11:07 AM - Fluted Cutter (Karie Daniel) 10. 11:40 AM - Re: rv-8 builders web sites (RV8ter@aol.com) 11. 11:51 AM - Re: Avionics-List: Re: Anywhere WX and others? (Tom Brusehaver) 12. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Re: Fw: [rv8list] T'Bird shot. (Kysh) 13. 12:52 PM - Re: Fluted Cutter (DWENSING@aol.com) 14. 12:56 PM - Re: toe in (Jerry Springer) 15. 01:27 PM - Re: Fluted Cutter (John) 16. 02:00 PM - Re: rv-8 builders web sites (RV8ter@aol.com) 17. 02:07 PM - Re: Fluted Cutter (Cy Galley) 18. 02:17 PM - Re: toe in (Ken Beene) 19. 02:20 PM - Gretz pitot tubes (Tom Martin) 20. 03:40 PM - future IFR VFR conditions (Jason Sneed) 21. 04:50 PM - Re: future IFR VFR conditions (Larry Pardue) 22. 05:10 PM - Re: future IFR VFR conditions (Dan Checkoway) 23. 06:01 PM - mzybq (wayne@engravers.net) 24. 06:05 PM - Re: Gretz pitot tubes (K Sebok) 25. 06:56 PM - Re: STEC-20 (Jbfcfi@aol.com) 26. 06:59 PM - Re: Fluted Cutter (Karie Daniel) 27. 07:18 PM - Re: future IFR VFR conditions (David Carter) 28. 07:36 PM - Re: Fluted Cutter (Dr. Leathers) 29. 08:08 PM - Re: Fluted Cutter (Dean) 30. 08:09 PM - RV-List Prop Dowel Pins (smoothweasel@juno.com) 31. 08:53 PM - Re: STEC-20 (Ralph E. Capen) 32. 09:35 PM - Tachometer For Sale (Donald Mei) 33. 10:04 PM - Re: Fluted Cutter (Bobby Hester) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:01 AM PST US From: Doug Gray Subject: Re: RV-List: rv-8 builders web sites --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray Sam Buchanan's RV-6 site is my reference for construction photos. IMO an invaluable resource for this non pre-punch kit. Doug Gray PSILeD@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com > > Mike, > > Here are the 4 sites I visit most, not in any order of preference: > Kevin Horton > Randy Lervold > Bill VonDane > Larry Bowen > I am building an RV-8 which is located in Hanger D30 at Peachtree City. Met > you there at the Bar B Q. > Paul LeDoux ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:17 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-6 or -7 center arm rest question From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" I got some. http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/index.htm Click on finishing, then interior. A quick search on this list at: http://www.matronics.com/searching/search.html For this: arm rest&6 Returned lots of great results. Mike Stewart -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N223RV@aol.com rv7-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: RV-6 or -7 center arm rest question --> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com I saw someone who had pictures of a center arm rest in thier -6 or -7 and can't seem to find the site anymore. Does anyone know where I can find them or does anyone have any pictures of a center arm rest? I'm looking for ideas. Thanks! do not archive -Mike Kraus N223RV RV-4 Flying N213RV RV-10 Empennage == == == == ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:49 AM PST US From: "Bob U." Subject: Re: RV-List: toe in --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob U." Jerry Springer wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer > >Dave, I cannot speak about a Woody Pusher having never been in one but >on most tailwheel airplanes toe in is more stable than toe out. > >Jerry > I couldn't agree less. On what do you base your statement? IMO, you're really swimming 'upstream' on this one, Jerry. :-) Do not archive Bob ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:55 AM PST US From: RVEIGHTA@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Microair 760/Flighttech Intercom --> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com Jim/All, I installed my Flighttech 402-P ENRI intercom in my RV-8A and flew yesterday for about 2 1/2 hours. The built-in intercom with my Microair 760 radio was just too noisy for my taste, but this baby (402-P) performs as advertised. Very crisp, clear communications between me and my passenger. As pointed out by someone else, there is a sort of "swishing" discernable in the background, but turning down the volume a tad seems to cure that problem. I'm a happy camper! Walt Shipley N-314TS ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:16 AM PST US From: Rob Prior Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Fw: [rv8list] T'Bird shot. --> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior Hopefully ending the debate on whether the photo is real or not... Here's testimony from the photographer himself... I can't see anything unbelievable in his testimony. ----- I have noticed all over the internet the shot I had taken of the Thunderbird crash at Mountain Home AFB, ID and though I am not at liberty to share the photo; it is out there. I would like to end some speculation and let you know the photo is real. I'm a Still Photographer for the USAF and I was stationed at MHAFB during the air show. I was on the catwalk of the tower at Mtn Home along with another photog (video) and about seven other (military) spectators. I have shot the T-birds from the tower before and I was pretty excited to do it again (the sky was perfect blue). I followed Thunderbird 6 from takeoff and watched as he pulled into his maneuver. I then noticed something seemed to be wrong, his direction was a little off; he was pulling out and heading right towards the tower. At this point I figured two things: 1. He's either going to fly past this tower and we'll feel the heat or 2. This is going to be ugly... I waited for the aircraft to level and clicked the shutter, what I saw through the lens will never go away... At the same time as I shot I seen a flash of light and horrific sound. I was shooting on high speed continuous and the next couple frames were a ball of fire and my feet, right before I ran. We all ran to the other side of the tower, I tried to get everyone in along with my partner and finally made it in myself. By the time we got inside the 16 had stopped sliding and rested about 100 ft in front of the tower. I then continued documenting the work of our base firefighters as they put out the flames. It was an experience and though I can't officially make any comments to the matter, I would like to say Capt Stricklin saved lives... enough said. For those who are wondering the image is not cleared for public release. Also for those fellow photogs I was shooting with a D1x with a 300mm, 2.8 @ 1000 and 2000 Thanks, SSgt Bennie J. Davis III Still Photographer, USAF ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:21 AM PST US From: "lucky macy" Subject: Re: RV-List: toe in --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" i haven't read any of this previous email thread - avoided it on purposes but curiosity got to me. excuse me if someone has already stated the obvious. anyone who's flown tail dragger RC plane should know this after a while. Toe in is the worst situation. Even just a minor amount of toe in will be unstable/unuseable. The plane will want to slow down quickly, the tendency is for the tires and landing gear itself if flimsly enough to turn inwards towards each other to the point where the plane will nose over. Toe out isn't desireable either but it takes a lot more of it on a typical RC plane to be noticeable/intolerable. lucky do not archive >From: linn walters >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: toe in >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:56:35 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters > >Jerry Springer wrote: > > >--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer > > > >Dave, I cannot speak about a Woody Pusher having never been in one but > >on most tailwheel airplanes toe in is more stable than toe out. > > >I don't think that's true. In fact. I think toe-in invites a groundloop >in a taildragger. Others have given the same opinion, but nothing to >support it. So, here goes. Let's get radical. Toe in is 10 degrees. >Makes it easier to see if we visualize a major angle. The tires will, >with even pressure, want to roll towards each other, until they skid. >One or the other will! Now comes the gusting crosswind from the right, >and the tail swerves left. The left wheel, pointing right, (and >tracking right) 'helps' the turn. Now the gear flexes because the >airplanes mass has a vector towards the outside of the circle, and the >right main loses more traction while the left gets some more. See where >we're heading? Into the boonies!!! Go through the same scenario with >toe out and see what happens. > > >On a RV I agree with Wheeler line them up as straight as possible > >and don't worry about it. > > >Excellent advice. My experience comes from my Pitts, which I built with >the spring aluminum gear instead of the bungy gear. The aluminum gear >is stiffer, and the wheels do not move laterally as much as the bungy >gear does. Because the front pivot point is higher than the aft one on >the bungy gear, as pressure is applied (for whatever reason) on one side >or the other, the bungy's stretch and as the wheel moves outwards, the >toe-in increases, and the same thing happens as in the above scenario. >I believe this is why the Pitts has such a lousy ground-handling >reputation. Mine is a pussycat! > >Now to keep this RV related, it's my opinion that the tapered steel gear >legs move around more than I'd care to have them do. No experience on >my part ..... I don't have any RV landings to my credit. I've just >watched them jink and jive as they taxi over stuff on the ramp. My 6A >buddy took some excursions before he tamed the beast ...... without any >damage other than to his ego. Both of us will tell ya that ego's >heal!!! Be safe out there! >Linn -10 in the near future! > > > > >Jerry > >do not archive > > > > Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:26 AM PST US From: Kai Schumann Subject: Re: RV-List: Anywhere WX and others? --> RV-List message posted by: Kai Schumann I've been watching the progress on this. There will be 3 levels of weather - Aviation, Marine & Emergency Response - all offering different aspects of weather reporting. What we are interested in is XM WX Aviator, which has a subscription price of $49.99/mo and a one time $75 activation fee. Yes - thats fifty bucks a month. Way too pricey for me, but would be very handy for those who cross country every week. XM WX Aviator will supply the following data: *Nexrad Radar (High Resolution) *Nexrad Radar status *Storm Cell Attributes *METARs *TAFs *County Warnings *City Forcasts *Surface Analysis *Lightning *SIGMETs *AIRMETs *Storm (echo) Tops *Winds Aloft (at altitude) Kai --- Steve Blank wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Steve Blank > > > Dear List, > Anyone have additional information on NEXRAD > weather > comming down from XM satellite radio? I hear they > are going to > have a weather channel available in March from one > of the PDA > navigation software companies. If it is what I'm > thinking then > I could have XM radio tunes plus weather info going > to my ipaq > for a groovey colored overlay. I did write to > sirius and they > responded saying a weather channel would be in place > in the next > twelve months. Just looking for a lower cost > solution than a > satellite phone. Of course if I had only bought XM > stock a year > ago I wouldn't care ; > ) > > Steven Blank > Seattle rv-6a wings > DNA > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:51 AM PST US From: flmike Subject: RV-List: Re: Re: Fw: [rv8list] T'Bird shot. --> RV-List message posted by: flmike Well then I stand corrected. Can a serviceman get the Pulitzer? To bad he can't get royalties. FWIW, the camera he mentions is $4k (base) and the lens is $4k (discounted and after rebate). That's some really fast glass. Not too many of us civilians can afford that kind of gear. The only discrepancy I see is that he mentions 1000 and 2000. Don't know if one of those is the ASA equivalency he was using (one or both are shutter speeds), but the D1x spec only shows up to 800 ASA. A nit in an otherwise believable account. Now, I had a question about primer....just kidding. Mike do not archive __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:09 AM PST US From: "Karie Daniel" Subject: RV-List: Fluted Cutter --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" I'm looking at the plans for installing the Wd-657 steps and it mentions using a fluted cutter to make the hole through the fuselage and baggage floor ribs. Anyone know who sells one of these? I didn't see one at Aircraft Spruce. Thanks, Karie Daniel RV-7A Sammamish, WA. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:40:57 AM PST US From: RV8ter@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: rv-8 builders web sites --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com I also like this one http://rv8bldr.tripod.com/rv-8_project.html lucky do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:11 AM PST US Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: RV-List: Anywhere WX and others? From: Tom Brusehaver --> RV-List message posted by: Tom Brusehaver Remember too the FAA is working on something like this, FIS-B, part of the ADS-B stuff. It is available already in many areas, it will be without a monthly charge. Here is an old document: http://www.asc.nasa.gov/aatt/wspdfs/OlmosMittelmanSF21.pdf On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:35:19 -0800 (PST), Kai Schumann wrote: > --> Avionics-List message posted by: Kai Schumann > > I've been watching the progress on this. > > There will be 3 levels of weather - Aviation, Marine & > Emergency Response - all offering different aspects of > weather reporting. > What we are interested in is XM WX Aviator, which has > a subscription price of $49.99/mo and a one time $75 > activation fee. Yes - thats fifty bucks a month. Way > too pricey for me, but would be very handy for those > who cross country every week. > XM WX Aviator will supply the following data: > *Nexrad Radar (High Resolution) > *Nexrad Radar status > *Storm Cell Attributes > *METARs > *TAFs > *County Warnings > *City Forcasts > *Surface Analysis > *Lightning > *SIGMETs > *AIRMETs > *Storm (echo) Tops > *Winds Aloft (at altitude) > > Kai > > --- Steve Blank > wrote: >> --> RV-List message posted by: Steve Blank >> >> >> Dear List, >> Anyone have additional information on NEXRAD >> weather >> comming down from XM satellite radio? I hear they >> are going to >> have a weather channel available in March from one >> of the PDA >> navigation software companies. If it is what I'm >> thinking then >> I could have XM radio tunes plus weather info going >> to my ipaq >> for a groovey colored overlay. I did write to >> sirius and they >> responded saying a weather channel would be in place >> in the next >> twelve months. Just looking for a lower cost >> solution than a >> satellite phone. Of course if I had only bought XM >> stock a year >> ago I wouldn't care ; >> ) >> >> Steven Blank >> Seattle rv-6a wings >> DNA >> >> >> >> Contributions >> any other >> Forums. >> >> http://www.matronics.com/chat >> >> http://www.matronics.com/subscription >> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm >> http://www.matronics.com/archives >> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare >> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists >> >> >> >> >> > > __________________________________ > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:15 PM PST US From: Kysh Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Re: Fw: [rv8list] T'Bird shot. --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh As flmike was saying: > --> RV-List message posted by: flmike > > Well then I stand corrected. Can a serviceman get the > Pulitzer? To bad he can't get royalties. > > FWIW, the camera he mentions is $4k (base) and the > lens is $4k (discounted and after rebate). That's > some really fast glass. Not too many of us civilians > can afford that kind of gear. > > The only discrepancy I see is that he mentions 1000 > and 2000. Don't know if one of those is the ASA > equivalency he was using (one or both are shutter > speeds), but the D1x spec only shows up to 800 ASA. A > nit in an otherwise believable account. He could have meant 1/1000 / 1/2000... -Kysh Do Not Archive -- | 'Life begins at 120kias' - http://www.lapdragon.org/flying | | CBR-F4 streetbike - http://www.lapdragon.org/cbr | | 1968 Mustang fastback - http://www.lapdragon.org/mustang | | Got 'nix? - http://www.infrastructure.org/ | | KG6FOB - http://www.lapdragon.org/ham | | Give blood: Play Hockey! http://www.unixdragon.com/ | ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:24 PM PST US From: DWENSING@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com In a message dated 1/30/04 2:12:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, karie4@comcast.net writes: > I'm looking at the plans for installing the Wd-657 steps and it mentions > using a fluted cutter to make the hole through the fuselage and baggage floor > ribs. Anyone know who sells one of these? Karie, If you have a Dremel Tool or similar you can buy a fluted cutter at Home Depot that works great. I think it is about $8. Dale Ensing ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:56:29 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: toe in --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer I guess you guys did not read my retraction. :-) I know it should be toe out, guess I should not be on a computer with a 102 degrees fever. :-) Jerry do not archive Bob U. wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob U." > >Jerry Springer wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer >> >>Dave, I cannot speak about a Woody Pusher having never been in one but >>on most tailwheel airplanes toe in is more stable than toe out. >> >>Jerry >> >> >> > >I couldn't agree less. >On what do you base your statement? > >IMO, you're really swimming 'upstream' on this one, Jerry. :-) > >Do not archive > >Bob > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:27:33 PM PST US From: "John" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS, MARKETING_SUBJECT --> RV-List message posted by: "John" Your local hardware has them ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:07 PM PST US From: RV8ter@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: rv-8 builders web sites --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com http://home.comcast.net/~jwdanie/ and here's another good one. also, on the yahoo RV8 group photo folder, there's some really good ideas/pictures. lucky do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:07:15 PM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" The trade name is Unibit! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karie Daniel" Subject: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > > I'm looking at the plans for installing the Wd-657 steps and it mentions using a fluted cutter to make the hole through the fuselage and baggage floor ribs. Anyone know who sells one of these? I didn't see one at Aircraft Spruce. > > Thanks, > Karie Daniel > RV-7A > Sammamish, WA. > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:12 PM PST US From: "Ken Beene" Subject: RE: RV-List: toe in --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Beene" Jerry, I heard a computer virus was going around. Please don't spread it own the list. My computer has virus protection and is still running at room temperature. Ken do not archive > I guess you guys did not read my retraction. :-) I know it should be toe > out, guess I should not be on a computer with a 102 degrees fever. :-) > Jerry ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:20:43 PM PST US From: "Tom Martin" Subject: RV-List: Gretz pitot tubes --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Martin" I post this message as a heads up regarding a warranty issue that I just ran into. A little over two years ago I purchased two heated pitot heads, AN5812, and brackets from Warren Gretz. I installed one of them last year on one plane with no problems. I just installed the other one on my current project and right out of the box the heater element was defective. I called Mr. Gretz and he stated that he no longer dealt with the company that supplies the units and that I should call the company. I called the company, Aero Instrument Co. of Cleveland Ohio, and they stated that their warranty is for one year from time of purchase and that they would not do anything for us and that I should call Mr. Gretz! I asked if they would check the unit to see if it was a manufacturing error and they refused to even look at it!!. As I understand the situation they are the only supplier of these heated pitot heads, the cost of which, in ACS is $300. I bring this to your attention so that you can check your parts shelf and test these units. I am most unhappy with the level of customer service of both Mr Gretz and the supplier of the pitot heads, Areo Instruments. I sincerely wish that there was an alternative and if someone knows of one I would appreciate a contact phone number. Tom Martin Fairlea Field ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:06 PM PST US From: Jason Sneed Subject: RV-List: future IFR VFR conditions --> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed Anyone have a site that predicts IFR VFR conditions for the next 24 hours or so? I have a good map of current airport conditions just looking for future conditions from now. I know any future conditions would only be predictions. Thanks, Jason Sneed ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:14 PM PST US From: "Larry Pardue" Subject: Re: RV-List: future IFR VFR conditions --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" http://aviationweather.gov/products/swl/ > --> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed > > Anyone have a site that predicts IFR VFR conditions for the next 24 > hours or so? I have a good map of current airport conditions just > looking for future conditions from now. I know any future conditions > would only be predictions. > Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://n5lp.net ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:10:26 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: future IFR VFR conditions --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" http://www.rvproject.com/wx/ Click on "TAFs", and at the bottom of the page you can customize your location/radius. It gives you decoded, color-coded TAFs and also a VFR/MVFR/IFR/LIFR designation for each time period. Hope this helps, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Sneed" Subject: RV-List: future IFR VFR conditions > --> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed > > Anyone have a site that predicts IFR VFR conditions for the next 24 > hours or so? I have a good map of current airport conditions just > looking for future conditions from now. I know any future conditions > would only be predictions. > > Thanks, > > > Jason Sneed > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:58 PM PST US From: wayne@engravers.net Subject: RV-List: mzybq --> RV-List message posted by: wayne@engravers.net Mail transaction failed. Partial message is available. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:40 PM PST US From: "K Sebok" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gretz pitot tubes --> RV-List message posted by: "K Sebok" I can't vouch for customer service issues at either company, but I came to find about 2 months back that the price of the AN5812 pitot tube has skyrocketed- to approx. $800! I spoke to Spruce, Wicks, and several others, looking for a better deal, to no avail. Apparently, Aero Instrument Co., which has been manufacturing the tubes for decades (since at least 1960), was sold to a larger corporation, which dictated the increase in price (this came from a conversation w/ an Aero Instrument Co. employee). $300 for a new AN5812 would now be a bargain! I don't have a need for a heated tube for my F-1, and ended up finding 2 locally that are military surplus- but both had a 115 volt power requirement. I put mine on my Rocket; it fit fine w/ the Gretz mount. If any one wants the other tube for my cost- $120- give me a call at 561-373-1595. The available tube is unused, in the box, factory sealed in a foil bag, with instructions. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Martin Subject: RV-List: Gretz pitot tubes --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Martin" I post this message as a heads up regarding a warranty issue that I just ran into. A little over two years ago I purchased two heated pitot heads, AN5812, and brackets from Warren Gretz. I installed one of them last year on one plane with no problems. I just installed the other one on my current project and right out of the box the heater element was defective. I called Mr. Gretz and he stated that he no longer dealt with the company that supplies the units and that I should call the company. I called the company, Aero Instrument Co. of Cleveland Ohio, and they stated that their warranty is for one year from time of purchase and that they would not do anything for us and that I should call Mr. Gretz! I asked if they would check the unit to see if it was a manufacturing error and they refused to even look at it!!. As I understand the situation they are the only supplier of these heated pitot heads, the cost of which, in ACS is $300. I bring this to your attention so that you can check your parts shelf and test these units. I am most unhappy with the level of customer service of both Mr Gretz and the supplier of the pitot heads, Areo Instruments. I sincerely wish that there was an alternative and if someone knows of one I would appreciate a contact phone number. Tom Martin Fairlea Field ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:44 PM PST US From: Jbfcfi@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List:STEC-20 --> RV-List message posted by: Jbfcfi@aol.com Anybody happen to have the installation instructions for an STEC-20? Need the pinouts for the head,servo,DG,and CDI inputs. Thanks in advance! Bentley Floyd RV6 0320 Finish Kit Fax 270-843-3285 Bowling Green, KY ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:45 PM PST US From: "Karie Daniel" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" I wasn't aware it's the same thing as a unibit. Too bad, it's an 1 1/2 inch hole, that's a pricey unibit. Thanks, Karie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" > > The trade name is Unibit! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karie Daniel" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > > > > I'm looking at the plans for installing the Wd-657 steps and it mentions > using a fluted cutter to make the hole through the fuselage and baggage > floor ribs. Anyone know who sells one of these? I didn't see one at Aircraft > Spruce. > > > > Thanks, > > Karie Daniel > > RV-7A > > Sammamish, WA. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:45 PM PST US From: "David Carter" Subject: Re: RV-List: future IFR VFR conditions --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/projects/adds/progs/ I pop this one up to get 6 prog charts - click on any of the 6 "small" charts and it goes full screen. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Sneed" Subject: RV-List: future IFR VFR conditions > --> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed > > Anyone have a site that predicts IFR VFR conditions for the next 24 > hours or so? I have a good map of current airport conditions just > looking for future conditions from now. I know any future conditions > would only be predictions. > > Thanks, > > > Jason Sneed > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:07 PM PST US From: "Dr. Leathers" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" Hi Karie, I think I have a 1.5" holesaw. Would that work? You are welcome to it. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karie Daniel" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > > I wasn't aware it's the same thing as a unibit. Too bad, it's an 1 1/2 inch > hole, that's a pricey unibit. > > Thanks, > Karie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cy Galley" > To: > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" > > > > The trade name is Unibit! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Karie Daniel" > > To: > > Subject: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > > > > > > I'm looking at the plans for installing the Wd-657 steps and it mentions > > using a fluted cutter to make the hole through the fuselage and baggage > > floor ribs. Anyone know who sells one of these? I didn't see one at > Aircraft > > Spruce. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Karie Daniel > > > RV-7A > > > Sammamish, WA. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:18 PM PST US From: "Dean" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean" Karie For the 1 1/2 inch holes in the side skins, I used a B & D hole saw after using a unibit to bring the pilot holes in the skins up to the same size as the pilot drill in the hole saw. Locating the holes through the baggage ribs and forming the step flanges to match the fuselage was mostly trial and error. I did have to elongate the holes that I made in the baggage ribs with a dremel tool to get final clearance for the tubes. Dean Van Winkle RV-9A Fuselage/Finish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karie Daniel" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > > I wasn't aware it's the same thing as a unibit. Too bad, it's an 1 1/2 inch > hole, that's a pricey unibit. > > Thanks, > Karie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cy Galley" > To: > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" > > > > The trade name is Unibit! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Karie Daniel" > > To: > > Subject: RV-List: Fluted Cutter > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > > > > > > I'm looking at the plans for installing the Wd-657 steps and it mentions > > using a fluted cutter to make the hole through the fuselage and baggage > > floor ribs. Anyone know who sells one of these? I didn't see one at > Aircraft > > Spruce. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Karie Daniel > > > RV-7A > > > Sammamish, WA. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:22 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV-List Prop Dowel Pins From: smoothweasel@juno.com --> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com Does anyone know if I can get one of the alignment dowels that index the prop/crank from someone other than the supplier ? I have a Hartzell and a O-320B3B. ACS does not show any for this combo and I have looked at a few other sources with "no cigar"! If I have to I will go to Hartzell but would rather find a dealer or even possibly a good used one. Joel "Weasel" Graber -4 install prop and inspect Brooksville MS ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:00 PM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List:STEC-20 --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" IIRC, the 20 is a 30 minus the alt hold features...... I have a thirty......although mine is set up for GPSS to a NSD1000 HSI - shouldn't matter for what you need though. Contact me directly, I have a scanner at work...the sheets are big so you might end up with four to a sheet or so...... Ralph Capen ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV-List:STEC-20 > --> RV-List message posted by: Jbfcfi@aol.com > > Anybody happen to have the installation instructions for an STEC-20? Need > the pinouts for the head,servo,DG,and CDI inputs. Thanks in advance! > > Bentley Floyd > RV6 0320 > Finish Kit > Fax 270-843-3285 > Bowling Green, KY > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:06 PM PST US From: "Donald Mei" Subject: RV-List: Tachometer For Sale --> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" I don't know if any of you have use for this item. I currently have it listed on ebay. If you have an interest. Call me this weekend. Thanks, Don Item number: 2456532241 Description Mechanical Tachometer TSO'd Mitchell, Timer Inop NO RESERVE I can vouch that this works perfectly other than the timer. I have checked it against an optical PropTach and it is spot on from 700 to 2700 rpm. Face is Like New TSO'd No noise or needle bounce "All of us need to be reminded that the federal government did not create the states; the states created the federal government!"---Ronald Reagan Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:22 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: Re: RV-List: Fluted Cutter --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester Karie Daniel wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" > >I'm looking at the plans for installing the Wd-657 steps and it mentions using a fluted cutter to make the hole through the fuselage and baggage floor ribs. Anyone know who sells one of these? I didn't see one at Aircraft Spruce. > >Thanks, >Karie Daniel >RV-7A >Sammamish, WA. > > I used a regular hole saw, like you cut holes in wooden doors with. I was worried a little but it worked great. I think I have pictures on my site, should be on the first or second fuselage page. -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)