RV-List Digest Archive

Fri 02/06/04


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:07 AM - Re: Re: Ordering Harbor Freight Tools (Paul Besing)
     2. 05:34 AM - Re: Moving an RV... (Lenleg@aol.com)
     3. 06:10 AM - Re: This way up. (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
     4. 06:27 AM - Re: EZ pilot Report (Jeff Dowling)
     5. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: Dynon EMI (different scenario) (steve blackwell)
     6. 06:41 AM - Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Jeff Dowling)
     7. 07:24 AM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (DWENSING@aol.com)
     8. 07:56 AM - Re: Moving an RV... (Rich Crosley)
     9. 10:38 AM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Lenleg@aol.com)
    10. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Dynon EMI (different scenario) (Jim Jewell)
    11. 11:06 AM - Re: Flying RVs with Disabilities (DJB6A@cs.com)
    12. 05:31 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Charlie Kuss)
    13. 06:11 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Dan Checkoway)
    14. 06:44 PM - Toe (Wheeler North)
    15. 06:54 PM - >Re:Great find on glare shield,etc. (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
    16. 06:55 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Richard Dudley)
    17. 07:04 PM - toe (Wheeler North)
    18. 07:12 PM - Trio (Wheeler North)
    19. 08:41 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (LarryLicking@aol.com)
    20. 09:04 PM - toe (Wheeler North)
    21. 09:41 PM - Re: >Re:Great find on glare shield,etc. (kempthornes)
    22. 10:15 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (DvdBock@aol.com)
    23. 11:23 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Jim Oke)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:07:16 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
    Subject: Re: Ordering Harbor Freight Tools
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com> I have the same set of bits. I think they are great for needing special sizes as you mentioned, but NOT for everyday drilling on your project. The quality is not very good, and they do dull quite easily. But, they are the right size, and if you only need some odd size once or twice, it's worth it. Paul Besing RV-6A Sold RV-10 Soon http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Subject: RV-List: Re: Ordering Harbor Freight Tools > --> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > > I wasn't going to contribute to this thread but while out in the shop tonight I had need for a #27 drill bit. I view tools as having multiple levels - first is the basic capability, second is when you start increasing relative quality and/or precision. A year or so ago I purchased a zillion piece drill bit set from Harbor Freight that has fractional sizes from 1/16 - 1/2 in 1/64 increments, lettered sizes a-z, and numbered sizes 1-60. Although these are certainly not the highest quality bits, and I don't use them for everyday building, it is REALLY nice to have the RIGHT bit when you need the odd size. This is something that I wouldn't have bought at a "high quality" tool store because of the cost. But for the $25-30 that I spent for the set it has been well worth it. Another good find was a small cutoff saw that I've used for longerons and stiffners. > > Would I buy a ratchet and sockets from them for everyday use? Probably not. Would I buy a C-clamp or spare die grinder? You bet! > > BTW, you also see those drill bit sets on Ebay frequently. Go to tools and do a search on "titanium" - they are titanium nitride coated bits. Here's one from tonight: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2376898115&category=11704 > > Bob RV-10 #105 > >


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    Time: 05:34:02 AM PST US
    From: Lenleg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Moving an RV...
    --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 2/5/2004 11:25:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, lwalters2@cfl.rr.com writes: > Well things are almost all done....tons of little stuff...but tired of > paying > gt;$150 a month for a hanger with no plane in it.nbsp; Im ready to move my > 6A.nbsp;nbsp; I > gt;have called around to several rental places, trailer manufacturers, and > the > gt;like and can't seem to find a trailer to fit my 6A gear span...(about > 85").nbsp; Most > gt;trailers are around 69" I guess.nbsp; I called my old chapter and they > don't loan > gt;their "RV Transporter" out anymore (thanks to someone I am sure).nbsp; > nbsp; > gt;Anyway...any other Ideas?nbsp; I need to go about 23 miles, mostly > freeway and live in a > gt;large city (OKC), where I would think there would be some trailer > resources.nbsp; If > gt;you have any advice on companies I could call or maybe how to get a 6A > on a > gt;69in trailer....let me know.nbsp; Thanks.... > Moved mine about 30 miles on a flat bed tilt back wrecker.nbsp; The guy was very careful loading and securing the plane.nbsp; He really enjoyed the experience of hauling something other than a car.nbsp; Cost was approx $100. Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, NCnbsp; N910LL 202 hrs


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    Time: 06:10:57 AM PST US
    From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
    Subject: Re: This way up.
    --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com My wings came with the arrows pointing down and two big "bites" taken out of the bottom (now the top) of the box, with a lot of loose parts which fell out of the box.nbsp; Guess what!nbsp; I was really lucky, everything was there and there was no damage to the contents. When I went to the truck terminal to get my $5500 constant speed prop from nearby Ohio, it was standing in the warehouse on end.nbsp; The box said "DO NOT STAND ON END."nbsp; Again no apparent damage. Hey, these guys are professionals.nbsp; That's what they do for a living. nbsp; I guess they do it with their eyes closed. Dan N766DHnbsp; RV-7A to fly this Spring --gt; RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" lt;rob@robsglass.comgt; > > > "Charles Becker" wrote > I got their 4.5HP 21 Gal compressor for 169 (including shipping).nbsp; It > came > in the box with the "this side up" pointing down................. > > That's how my fuselage kit was delivered by AFS!nbsp; I have a photo of the > proud delivery guy standing next to it on my driveway.nbsp; Smiling - until > I showed him the big red arrows. > > Rob > Rob W M Shipley > N919RV (res) Fuselage .....still! >


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    Time: 06:27:59 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: EZ pilot Report
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> Contrary to your experience(?), I had a great experience with the NavAid folks. My servo was not working properly so I sent it into them for repair. The unit was over 7 years old but they gave me no problems and returned a brand new unit. Granted it wasnt flying yet but they didnt press the issue. Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 9 hours Chicago/Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lockamy, Jack L" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ pilot Report > --> RV-List message posted by: "Lockamy, Jack L" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> > > Wheeler, > > Jerry (Trio Avionics) emailed me yesterday that my LCD EZ Pilot would be shipping today.... > > So far, I am very impressed with the customer support from Trio Avionics, unlike the NAVAID Devices, Inc. folks which is one reason I yanked out their A/P Control Head before even flying my RV-7A. > > Let's just hope the EZ Pilot LCD screen doesn't suffer from possible EMI. I'm wiring the Dynon EFIS into the panel this weekend and plan to shield EVERYTHING.... > > Please keep the EZ Pilot reports coming.... > > Jack Lockamy > Camarillo, CA > RV-7A QB N174JL reserved > www.jacklockamy.com > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 06:41:15 AM PST US
    From: "steve blackwell" <n10557@hotmail.com>
    Subject: RE: Dynon EMI (different scenario)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "steve blackwell" <n10557@hotmail.com> As a full time CFI I often get asked questions about the things I carry in my flight bag. The short answer - 1# A garmin 295 (to find my way to an airport when its ifr and the electric failure) 2# A handheld radio ( to turn on the runway lights at night if the electric fails) will your handheld work well enough to turn on the lights? RV8 (builder) Steve >--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Boyce, Ph.D." ><matronicspost@csg-i.com> > >There's a couple of very disappointing things about this situation: > >1) in a total electric failure emergency, my backup handheld radio will >most >likely be rendered useless. > >2) in an otherwise excellent product, those engineering folks at Dynon have >completely dropped the ball in not doing thorough Quality Control checks on >EMI. Isn't it obvious that in a highly electrified environment such as an >airplane cockpit, one MUST check for EMI? Is that too much to ask? > >I will be giving them a call tomorrow. > >Paul > > Optimize your Internet experience to the max with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 06:41:27 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> I found a great piece of moulding for sliding on the glare shield/fore head cutter. Its a pretty heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape. It fit perfectly and looks great. Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com It was $2.75 for a yard. Best money I havent spent in a while. If you cant find it, they said they would ship. Comes in black and white. Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 9 hours Chicago/Louisville


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    Time: 07:24:43 AM PST US
    From: DWENSING@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com In a message dated 2/6/04 9:42:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, shempdowling@earthlink.net writes: > heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape.nbsp; It fit > perfectly and looks great.nbsp; Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a > local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com Jeff, Could not find it on their web site even searching the name Jiffy Trim. Is there more to the name? Dale Ensing do not archive


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    Time: 07:56:34 AM PST US
    From: "Rich Crosley" <dirtrider@qnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Moving an RV...
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" <dirtrider@qnet.com> You must not have an "8"............If you did you wouldn't suggest taking the gear off! Time: 01:53:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: Moving an RV... From: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com 02/05/2004 03:13:27 PM --> RV-List message posted by: glenn.williams@businessacft.bombardier.com Have you thought about removing the main gear and resting the fuselage on some foam pads while on the trailer? It will fit fine with the gear removed and when you get to the hangar it is just a matter of using an engine hoist or similar lifting device. We use a come along mounted to a hangar beam to lift the fuselages and install the gear, here at the Orndorffs place. Just my two cents worth. do not archive Glenn Williams


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    Time: 10:38:33 AM PST US
    From: Lenleg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 2/6/2004 10:26:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, DWENSING@aol.com writes: > gt;heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape.nbsp; It > fit > gt;perfectly and looks great.nbsp; Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a > gt;local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com > > Jeff, > Could not find it on their web site even searching the name Jiffy Trim. Is > there more to the name? > Dale Ensing > I used a piece of large round welt material that we use at my furniture manufacturing plant.nbsp; Just had the sewers cover it with black material.nbsp; Used the welt cord that was large enough to cover up the fiberglass work done on the outside.nbsp; I am happy with it .. Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, NCnbsp; N910LL 202 hrs


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    Time: 10:40:59 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Dynon EMI (different scenario)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> I must have missed it Paul, did you send the list any update as to how your call to Dynon turned out?. Did you find any solution to the EMI problems that you encountered. Jim in Kelowna do not archive ----- Original Message ----- > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Boyce, Ph.D." > ><matronicspost@csg-i.com> > > > >There's a couple of very disappointing things about this situation: > > > >1) in a total electric failure emergency, my backup handheld radio will > >most > >likely be rendered useless. > > > >2) in an otherwise excellent product, those engineering folks at Dynon have > >completely dropped the ball in not doing thorough Quality Control checks on > >EMI. Isn't it obvious that in a highly electrified environment such as an > >airplane cockpit, one MUST check for EMI? Is that too much to ask? > > > >I will be giving them a call tomorrow. > > > >Paul > > > > > > Optimize your Internet experience to the max with the new MSN Premium > Internet Software. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ > >


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    Time: 11:06:23 AM PST US
    From: DJB6A@cs.com
    Subject: Re: Flying RVs with Disabilities
    --> RV-List message posted by: DJB6A@cs.com I believe the SportAviation article was around April of 1998. I too had polio and have limited use of my legs, but enough that I can fly with standard controls although I do need wear Sperry's boating shoes. I spoke to the fellow who built that RV6A and he helped convince me to go ahead and build one too. I am 5 years (Feb 14th) into the process and hope to fly May or June this year. If your friend would like to contact me I would be happy to talk with him and would try and find the magazine if he would like. Kind regards, Dave Burnham Lincolnshire, IL djb6a@cs.com


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    Time: 05:31:30 PM PST US
    From: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> Jeff, How about giving us the part number for this item? Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> > >I found a great piece of moulding for sliding on the glare shield/fore head cutter. Its a pretty heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape. It fit perfectly and looks great. Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com It was $2.75 for a yard. Best money I havent spent in a while. > >If you cant find it, they said they would ship. Comes in black and white. > >Jeff Dowling >RV-6A, N915JD >9 hours >Chicago/Louisville > >


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    Time: 06:11:11 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> For what it's worth, I bought some of 8451A22 and 8451A55 from McMaster Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com). 36 cents and 45 cents a foot respectively. I still haven't decided which one to use yet... do not archive )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Kuss" <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> > > Jeff, > How about giving us the part number for this item? > Charlie Kuss > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> > > > >I found a great piece of moulding for sliding on the glare shield/fore head cutter. Its a pretty heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape. It fit perfectly and looks great. Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com It was $2.75 for a yard. Best money I havent spent in a while. > > > >If you cant find it, they said they would ship. Comes in black and white. > > > >Jeff Dowling > >RV-6A, N915JD > >9 hours > >Chicago/Louisville > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:44:31 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: Toe
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> <Of course, all of this analysis depends on the static case, where you're making a smooth landing on a smooth paved strip. If you're landing on a bumpy grass strip, and your gearleg is "bouncy", your wheel could be oscillating from toed-in to toed-out, and cambered-in to cambered-out, at the same time. Still, you have to be able to analyze it, so you work with the assumed "mean" position of the wheel. Which will be the static case. > The best part of a grass strip is tire slide, the tires slide a lot so effects of toe in or out are minimized. Yes and no, a ground loop is almost always caused by poor control techniques, or excessive landing conditions (cross wind). Alignment will add to this, but a good landing in stable conditions will overcome poor alignment if its not too whacked out. < I don't think so. As the heavy wheel runs away from it's CG vector, the heaviness decreases, and it reaches a static state. Of course there will be an oscillation around the static point, but it will approach that static point as the plane settles and both wheels get on the ground. During this time, the lateral force is oscillating between stabilizing (which is good) and no force at all (or maybe slight destabilizing, if the wheel oscillates to a toed-in alignment). > As the heavy wheel runs away it also drags the aircraft with it, turning it, or at least shifting its inertia to the opposite side. This causes the aircraft to then jump to the other wheel and it repeats in reverse. This is ususally a dynamically negatively stable oscillation, IE get worse each cycle. Picture the extreme, a penguin sliding on ice. As it leans to the left that flipper, which is toed out, begins to dig in and add drag and trys to move outwards, this spins the penguin to the left and now its inertia is pointing to the right side. Load then shifts from the left to the right and the right flipper digs in. > But if your wheels are toed-in, the heavy wheel will be fighting your ability to land smoothly from the time it hits. The lateral force will be oscillating between destabilizing (which is bad) and no force at all (or maybe slight stabilizing, if the wheel oscillates to toed-out). < Yes, this is true for severe toe in (greater than 5 degs) but slight toe in (less than one deg) has very little effect on static stablility. The controllability of the aircraft easily overcomes this, and there is no force trying to make the aircraft hop back and forth left to right, which is very difficult to control. > Usually when a pilot squacks "squirrley" this is what I look for, > ie: large toe out as evidenced by sharp ridges on the outboard edges of the > tire tread ribs. > Are you sure we're talking about the same thing? Toe-out or toe-in, the wheel could still be contacting the ground at the center of it's tread. Are you thinking camber, ie. the top of the tire further out than the bottom, and not toe-in/out, ie. the front of the tire further in/out than the rear? < Yes I'm sure, Camber causes one side of the tire to wear, toe causes the tire to scrubb laterally across the ribs. The direction of lateral scrubb will always be from rounded tread groove corners to sharp feathered groove corners. If rounded is inboard its toed out, if rounded is outboard its toed in. > You say it, but it's not clear that this happens. At least, it's not clear that it would happen on a toed-out gear, but wouldn't on a toed-in gear. If it's toed-out to start with and oscillates between in and out, then the same should be true if it was toed-in to start with. Toed in is less stable. > It will do this in reverse, but when toed in, the wheel that is shifting track won't be the heavy wheel. If you are leaning on the left wheel and the right wheel shifts track its not a big deal, but if the left one does it will be a bigger deal partly because of load shift, and partly because your outboard wheel track will have just moved to a tighter radius thereby increasing side loading at an unpredictible rate. > This may be a good thing to measure on an RV, as I can't see this no matter how hard I try to configure it in my head. When I simulate it using a wire, the static loading case (aircraft not moving) doesn't show any real change in toe-in or toe-out, but if anything it's a slight toe-out. When you add the landing load, which is a drag force applied to the wheel, it causes the gearleg to flex to the back, twisting the axle to the outside, increasing the toe-out. So as near as I can tell, the heavy wheel on an RV will *always* have toe-out, unless you set it with *lots* of toe-in to start with. Maybe this is exactly what's intended... With a slight "preload" of toe-in, in the case of a crosswind, one-wheel landing the gear flexes to give you toe-out, which stabilizes you. Once wheels are flat on the ground, and the speed has dropped, you go back to neutral or slight toe-in (but by that point it won't matter, as the danger of a groundloop is lessened, unless a dastardly gust comes out of nowhere...). > The RV gear project outwards and aftwards quite a bit, particularly in the three point position. As the wheels are weighted the axles move backwards and outwards and the wheel base gets wider. Its the wider that increases toe in. Imagine worse case by grabbing the gear ankles and pushing each towards the wing tips. The axles tips would move fwd and upwards. > I can't argue with practical experience. Theory often falls down hard when shown that "it just doesn't work that way." But even when that happens, it's usually pretty simple to show that the reason the theory doesn't hold is because it's faulty. If it were just me, i'd bow to the practical experience of you and others who can explain quite eloquently what you've seen in practise. But every design textbook I can find says that toe-out (or neutral) is the "best" alignment for taildraggers. I would have expected that 50 years later someone would have found new theory to explain why the old theory is wrong. -Rob < Not too sure about the old books, but most automotive books I've read call for slight toe-in. As far as I know the physics don't change just because you took the wings off. W


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    Time: 06:54:54 PM PST US
    From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
    Subject: Re: >Re:Great find on glare shield,etc.
    --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com I found my edge cover for my RV-4 glare shield in my parts collection. I cut a slot in one side of 3/8" aluminum tubing and used pop rivets to attach it at ends & middle. Painted same color as plane interior. Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now Charleston, Arkansas "Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"


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    Time: 06:55:24 PM PST US
    From: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net> Cleaveland has a "Black Glare Shield Edge Trim", 52" that accommodates up to 1/16" thick edge for $8.00 on page 45 of the 2004 catalog. Regards, Richard Dudley Dan Checkoway wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > For what it's worth, I bought some of 8451A22 and 8451A55 from McMaster Carr > (http://www.mcmaster.com). 36 cents and 45 cents a foot respectively. > > I still haven't decided which one to use yet... > > do not archive > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie Kuss" <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> > > > > Jeff, > > How about giving us the part number for this item? > > Charlie Kuss > > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" > <shempdowling@earthlink.net> > > > > > >I found a great piece of moulding for sliding on the glare shield/fore > head cutter. Its a pretty heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a > round shape. It fit perfectly and looks great. Its called Jiffy Trim and I > got it at a local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com It was > $2.75 for a yard. Best money I havent spent in a while. > > > > > >If you cant find it, they said they would ship. Comes in black and > white. > > > > > >Jeff Dowling > > >RV-6A, N915JD > > >9 hours > > >Chicago/Louisville > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:04:28 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: toe
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> ime: 06:10:38 AM PST US From: "Ron Calhoun" <roncal@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: More on toe --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Calhoun" <roncal@earthlink.net> Wheeler, I tried to pick out of your explanation what is causing my rv-4 tires to wear excessively on the outside. It runs straight and true. The wear is the only problem. My tires do appear to have excessive camber, even with full weight on them. My flying friends say I just have not made enough hard landings. What say ye? Ron RV-4 Flying <>>><<>>< Try some hard landings... :{) no? Sounds like camber, But I would have to see them to tell if toe is also involved. Camber will cause them to wear on the side, or off center, and toe will cause them to wear fast, and scrubb laterally. See previous recent post. I rotate/flip my tires so the wear side evens out every once in a while, say 100 hours. W


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    Time: 07:12:32 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: Trio
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> So far no EMI efects on mine with any screen device, in fact the only thing I can't make happen is a VOR antenna with a range more than 15nm. Those little wiggely things are magic, and the VOR mojo ran out of my magic. I also forgot to mention that the polarization angle of the LCD on the EZ pilot is much better than some of the other screen products out there. I have to turn my head 90 degs with my polarized lenses on to get it to go dark. I kidnapped Jerry today and we went for a $100 burger. He got some pics of my servo installed in the right wing tip as well as the new LCD unit installed and working. Not sure if he'll post them or include them with his literature. W t: Re: RV-List: EZ pilot Report From: "Lockamy, Jack L" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> --> RV-List message posted by: "Lockamy, Jack L" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> Wheeler, Jerry (Trio Avionics) emailed me yesterday that my LCD EZ Pilot would be shipping today.... So far, I am very impressed with the customer support from Trio Avionics, unlike the NAVAID Devices, Inc. folks which is one reason I yanked out their A/P Control Head before even flying my RV-7A. Let's just hope the EZ Pilot LCD screen doesn't suffer from possible EMI. I'm wiring the Dynon EFIS into the panel this weekend and plan to shield EVERYTHING.... Please keep the EZ Pilot reports coming.... Jack Lockamy Camarillo, CA RV-7A QB N174JL reserved www.jacklockamy.com DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:41:03 PM PST US
    From: LarryLicking@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: LarryLicking@aol.com Several guys around here have used Style Guard truck door edge molding found at Pep Boys. It comes in 46" length, is cheap, and looks very good.


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    Time: 09:04:37 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: toe
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> Time: 07:06:14 AM PST US From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG> Subject: Re: RV-List: More on toe --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> You have left out the effect of Center of Gravity and the dynamic controls in 3 axis instead of just the 2 of automotive., Cy, I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at so I'll mull it around on paper here. Its not really a 3 axis issue for most of the landing/takeoff run. At least I've never heard of an airplane that airlooped close to the runway. And I think I have been talking about the CG throughout most of this. The RVs tend to either be on the ground or in the air, but they don't spend much time doing both, at least such that the third axis of motion complicates things a lot. So for say a 600 ft ground landing run, lets say you wheel land it and then stick it forward, you're a car with wings after 15-20 feet at the most. In a good three point plop, you're a car with wings after 5ft During takeoff there is a big fan helping to keep things pulled straight ahead, and again with an RV you go from being a weighted wheeled vehicle to "what wheels" fairly quickly. This is also one arguement for doing wheel takeoffs rather than three point takeoffs. One transitions from loaded mains to flying in about one second with a wheel takeoff. I will also add the the three axis effects that apply to an aircraft also apply to car and in fact may be worse for a car. The only difference is an aircraft has wings and inertia causing the vertical axis of force and movement, whereas the car only has inertia. But the car has a lot more opportunity for its inertia to be propelled vertically given that most roads are far worse than most runways. And the aircraft's wings usually are helping to stabilize things as they begin to generate good lift. Am I still on the same page here??? I guess I got myself confused because I'm not clear what you were getting at Cy. ;{O W


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    Time: 09:41:31 PM PST US
    From: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: >Re:Great find on glare shield,etc.
    --> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net> I'd hate to hit my head on that but I guess it is better than the original design. hal Stiiiill working on an updated panel with Trio and Dynon. At 06:54 PM 2/6/2004, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com > >I found my edge cover for my RV-4 glare shield in my parts collection. I cut >a slot in one side of 3/8" aluminum tubing and used pop rivets to attach >it at >ends & middle. Painted same color as plane interior. > > >Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor >RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now >Charleston, Arkansas >"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers" > >


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    Time: 10:15:27 PM PST US
    From: DvdBock@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: DvdBock@aol.com For what its worth, if you have some leftover of the marine-type rudder cable cover -- not fancy but it slides on nicely and looks pretty good. Dave Bockelman F1 Rocket


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    Time: 11:23:20 PM PST US
    From: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca> My solution was about 6 ft of 3/8" rubber fuel line (lawn tractor grade stuff) stretched out and slit lengthwise with an Exacto knife. Slipped neatly over the glareshield edge and holds itself in place although I did add a bit of silicon goo at the ends. A good match to the matte black on top of the glareshield and reasonable protection for those seated in the cockpit. Jim Oke Wpg., MB RV-6A ----- Original Message ----- From: <LarryLicking@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover > --> RV-List message posted by: LarryLicking@aol.com > > Several guys around here have used Style Guard truck door edge molding found > at Pep Boys. It comes in 46" length, is cheap, and looks very good. > >




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