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1. 04:35 AM - Re: What size is GPS coax? (linn walters)
2. 05:08 AM - New ASI calibration spreadsheet (Kevin Horton)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? (Lenleg@aol.com)
4. 05:36 AM - Selling my RV-4 (Rvsearey@aol.com)
5. 05:51 AM - MT Prop Controller (dschaefer1@kc.rr.com)
6. 06:10 AM - Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? (Curt)
7. 06:46 AM - Re: What size is GPS coax? (Jerry Calvert)
8. 07:46 AM - Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? (Dwight Frye)
9. 07:47 AM - Re: Seats (Rich Crosley)
10. 08:59 AM - Re: .........and another (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
11. 09:08 AM - Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? (Jim Jewell)
12. 09:12 AM - Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? (Jim Jewell)
13. 09:23 AM - Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? (Cammie Patch)
14. 09:26 AM - Re: Seats (Jack Lockamy)
15. 09:28 AM - O320B3B Engine conical mount (RV9A) (Joe Wiza)
16. 10:34 AM - Re: O320B3B Engine conical mount (RV9A) (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
17. 10:48 AM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Jeff Dowling)
18. 11:05 AM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Jeff Dowling)
19. 11:06 AM - Any listers in San Juan (Jeff Dowling)
20. 01:50 PM - Re: .........and another (RVEIGHTA@aol.com)
21. 01:59 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (j1j2h3@juno.com)
22. 02:24 PM - Re: .........and another (Alex Peterson)
23. 02:33 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG))
24. 02:56 PM - Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? (Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG))
25. 04:33 PM - Van's Helpers (Larry Pardue)
26. 04:51 PM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
27. 05:04 PM - >Re: O-320 B3B Conical engine mount (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
28. 05:20 PM - >Re:Build Wings Together or Seperate (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
29. 06:15 PM - Re: >Re:Build Wings Together or Seperate (Denis Walsh)
30. 08:25 PM - Subject: Should I cancel my wing kit? :-) (j1j2h3@juno.com)
31. 09:58 PM - Re: Seats (Vincent Himsl)
32. 10:15 PM - (Wheeler North)
33. 10:40 PM - EZ Pilot (Wheeler North)
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| Subject: | Re: What size is GPS coax? |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Jerry Calvert wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
>
>I need to shorten my Garmin 295 remote antenna wire. Garmin says it is ok to
shorten it, but I cannot find a BNC to fit this small of a wire.
>
>Guess I will have to special order it. Anyone know what size coax this is? {ie.,
RF58, RG6, etc.}
>
Unless the cable is terribly too long, more than a few feet, you might
consider a special order ....... but coiling it up may be the best
solution. You never know when you might want to move that antenna
sometime later!
Linn
do not archive
>
>Thanks,
>Jerry Calvert
>Edmond Ok
>RV6 N296JC
>
>
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| Subject: | New ASI calibration spreadsheet |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
Listers,
A long time ago I created a spreadsheet to use when calibrating an
airspeed indicator. It worked, but it wasn't perfectly obvious how
it was to be used, especially when dealing with different units. An
unnamed lister contacted me a few days ago wondering why my
spreadsheet said his ASIs were both reading 15% out. :)
I have created a new ASI calibration spreadsheet which hopefully will
make it harder to screw up the units. It also creates a couple of
pretty graphs to look at. You can find it in Excel 4 and Excel 95
versions at:
http://members.rogers.com/khorton/rvlinks/asi2.zip
You'll probably also want EAA Chapter 1000's info on how to make and
use a water manometer:
http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/instcal/instcal.htm
And there is lots more info on how to calibrate pitot-static systems,
etc on my web site at:
http://members.rogers.com/khorton/rvlinks/ssec.html
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/phplinks/index.php?PID=47
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 2/8/2004 12:12:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tx_jayhawk@excite.com writes:
> Those with experience going both routes...is it as big time saver to build
> both wings at the same time? Anyone have an estimate on the number of clecos
> required per wing? I don't think I can get both wings on one stand, and I
> am trying to understand if I should make the additional investment.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 7A Wings
>
Scott:
I built mine both at the same time. I just set up the two wing jigs about 3
- 4 feet apart and worked on each item at the same time. It took me 6 months
to complete the two wings.
I am getting ready to start another 8 and will do it the same.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
203 hrs
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--> RV-List message posted by: Rvsearey@aol.com
For anyone that's interested, in preparation of my new project (RV-7) I'm
selling my 1997 RV-4 that I built. It has an 0-360, c/s prop and IFR panel. You
can find details and photos at the following site:
https://www.usaviation.com/aircraft/display3.asp?func=display&
resid=3417&tree=247
Dan Decker
RV-4
Do not archive
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| Subject: | MT Prop Controller |
--> RV-List message posted by: dschaefer1@kc.rr.com
I have a MT prop governor and the MT control cable bracket on an RV6A. Where is
everyone running the control cable through the firewall to make the bend into
the bracket? If you have a picture it would be much appreciated.
Additionally, does anyone have the cut-out for the spinner for the new Hartzell
prop?
Thanks
David Schaefer
RV6-A Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
I built both of mine at the same time. I think there is a time savings in
that when you are doing a certain task and have the tools handy, you just do
it twice with the same set up time. Not much investment difference other
than more clecoes. You obviously use twice as many. Not sure how many but
certainly hundreds. I'll probably sell some when I am done with the
fuselage.
The other thing for me- there are some tedious sections of doing the wings,
e.g. smoothing all the edges, fluting the flanges, etc. I was afraid if I
didn't do them all at once I would get one wing done and quit : ) This way,
when you're done with your wings- you are done with the wings totally.
Anyway, if you have room, I would always recommend doing both at once.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
Subject: RV-List: Build Wings Together or Separate?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
>
>
> Those with experience going both routes...is it as big time saver to build
both wings at the same time? Anyone have an estimate on the number of
clecos required per wing? I don't think I can get both wings on one stand,
and I am trying to understand if I should make the additional investment.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 7A Wings
>
>
> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com
> The most personalized portal on the Web!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: What size is GPS coax? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
Stein,
Yes, it is the micro coax. Last night I was looking through my box of
electrical stuff and luck would have it that I had the BNC connectors that
were supplied with my Van's capacitance senders and they have the smaller
opening for small wire and will work perfectly. I used a different BNC on
the senders so I could use RG400 on the modules.
Thanks for the post.
Jerry Calvert
Edmond Ok
RV6
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: What size is GPS coax?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> Just an FYI, if you are talking about the "thin coax" (MCX) that some of
the
> Garmin/Skyforce/et.al GPS's use, it's NOT regular sized Coax cable like
> RG400/RG142/RG58.
>
> If it appears to be about half the size or less, than it's probably
> "MCX-Micro Coax" cable, which is used extensively on may GPS portable
> antennas. If the connector is a typical BNC, than your cable is probably
> full sized coax, and you should be able to just chop it off and use
another
> crimp on BNC.
>
> That being said, if the cable is very thin and you chop it off, you'll
need
> a different BNC or MCX connector. If you GPS doesn't take a BNC (SOME
> portables DON'T) you'll need an MCX (micro coaxial) connector.
>
> I don't know right off hand where to get the MCX connectors.
>
> Just my 2 cents as usual!
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
> RV6's, Minneapolis
>
> http://www.steinair.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Calvert
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: What size is GPS coax?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
>
> Thanks for the tip Larry.
>
> Jerry Calvert
> RV6
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: What size is GPS coax?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
> >
> > I need to shorten my Garmin 295 remote antenna wire. Garmin says it is
ok
> to shorten it, but I cannot find a BNC to fit this small of a wire.
> >
> > Guess I will have to special order it. Anyone know what size coax this
> is? {ie., RF58, RG6, etc.}
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jerry Calvert
> > Edmond Ok
> > RV6 N296JC
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
Scott,
I built (well, amd still finishing) my wings at the same time. I put them
on stands about 3 feet apart. I was good to, once I figured out how to deal
with some issue or perform some operation, to turn around and do it on the
other wing while the knowledge was still fresh in my mind.
It takes a *lot* of clecos, though. That is the only real downside. I'm past
the worst of that now, and have my wings in the storage cradles and half of
my clecos on loan to a Sonex builder in my EAA chapter. :)
-- Dwight (working on tanks, and prosealing .. *groan*)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On Sun Feb 8 00:08:15 2004, tx_jayhawk@excite.com wrote :
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
>Those with experience going both routes...is it as big time saver to build both
wings at the same time? Anyone have an estimate on the number of clecos required
per wing? I don't think I can get both wings on one stand, and I am trying
to understand if I should make the additional investment.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" <dirtrider@qnet.com>
I bought Van's seats and took them in to local upholstery places. I got two
estimates and went with the guy I liked best. Cost $400. He did a great
job and was impressed with the quality of the foam. I probably didn't same
much but I am happy with the results. The shop I went to did reupholstered
furniture, not just cars,
Rich Crosley
Palmdale, CA
RV-8, engine, paint
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| Subject: | Re: .........and another |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 2/3/04 7:39:03 AM Central Standard Time, RVEIGHTA@aol.com
writes:
> Mark, way to go man! Another TN RV flyin' and with a 3 blade Catto, no
> less.
Hi Walt- you flyin' yet? If you are, then you know what a terrific prop you
got! I may have sold Craig two more as my test pilot and another pilot from
Tullahoma both want one for their -4's after seeing how it performs on my 150hp
-6A.
And where the heck is Chuckey, anyway? I live in Columbia and the plane is
at Lewisburg for sea trials. Will move plane to Smyrna for hangaring soon.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Scott,
I did both my RV6-A wings together and would do it again that way. On top of
the 350 or so Avery supplied clecoes I borrowed an extra 100 3/32' Clecoes
and got the job done, another hundred would not have been be too many.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Build Wings Together or Separate?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
>
>
> Those with experience going both routes...is it as big time saver to
build
both wings at the same time? Anyone have an estimate on the number of
clecos required per wing? I don't think I can get both wings on one stand,
and I am trying to understand if I should make the additional investment.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 7A Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Build Wings Together or Separate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Scott,
I did both my RV6-A wings together and would do it again that way. On top of
the 350 or so Avery supplied clecoes I borrowed an extra 100 3/32' Clecoes
and got the job done, another hundred would not have been be too many.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Build Wings Together or Separate?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
>
>
> Those with experience going both routes...is it as big time saver to
build
both wings at the same time? Anyone have an estimate on the number of
clecos required per wing? I don't think I can get both wings on one stand,
and I am trying to understand if I should make the additional investment.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 7A Wings
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| Subject: | Build Wings Together or Separate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cammie Patch" <cammie@sunvalley.net>
I like to build everything at the same time for the most part. The wings
were a little difficult due to having one stand, but I built a holder on the
back of my workbench, and swapped them around occasionally. I have found
that it is best to build the left component first (so the plans match) then
the right one before I forget things.
Cammie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
tx_jayhawk@excite.com
Subject: RV-List: Build Wings Together or Separate?
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
Those with experience going both routes...is it as big time saver to build
both wings at the same time? Anyone have an estimate on the number of
clecos required per wing? I don't think I can get both wings on one stand,
and I am trying to understand if I should make the additional investment.
Thanks,
Scott
7A Wings
Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com
The most personalized portal on the Web!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net>
Bert,
Sell your foam seats..... and give Abby Erdmann at Flightline Interiors (http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/) a call.
I just received my complete interior package from her this week(seats, carpet,
sidepanels, etc.). It looks awesome and the quality of her work is the best I
have seen in any RV.... period.
Oh.... and her 'turn-around' was very timely.... less than month from the time
I placed the order.
Can't say enough nice things about Abby.... give her a call and you will see what
I mean.
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
RV-7A
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| Subject: | O320B3B Engine conical mount (RV9A) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com>
I think I have another tear jerker hear. I purchase a newly overhauled
lyco O320B3B (with conical mount) engine for my RV9A, which I paid
several hundred dollars up front for to Vans. The bottom engine mount
butts up against the engine frame. The lower cotter pins won't fit
through the lower mounting bolts (Close}. Also the holes in the throttle
and mixture bracket would require they go through the engine mount. I
can't see any other way to mount this. Has anyone experienced this?
thanks ahead. Will call Vans monday for possible solution, Possibly move
engine ahead a 1/4" with washers ( erg remove engine)
RV9A Mounting Engine
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| Subject: | Re: O320B3B Engine conical mount (RV9A) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Joe Wiza wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com>
>
> I think I have another tear jerker hear. I purchase a newly overhauled
> lyco O320B3B (with conical mount) engine for my RV9A, which I paid
> several hundred dollars up front for to Vans. The bottom engine mount
> butts up against the engine frame. The lower cotter pins won't fit
> through the lower mounting bolts (Close}. Also the holes in the throttle
> and mixture bracket would require they go through the engine mount. I
> can't see any other way to mount this. Has anyone experienced this?
> thanks ahead. Will call Vans monday for possible solution, Possibly move
> engine ahead a 1/4" with washers ( erg remove engine)
>
> RV9A Mounting Engine
This is probably not a tear jerker....... give a little more information and
you will get some good solutions from different people.
1. bolts.....
Do the cotter pins not fit because the slots in the nuts are not quite lined
up with the holes in the bolts? Are the bolts too long and interfereing with
something on the engine?
2.Engine Control Cables.....
Are they on a collision course with the cross tube that is part of the mount
because of their hole locations in the firewall?
Think positive. all will work out...............
Phil in Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Thats all they gave me. If you call to order it, Im sure they'll know what
it is. Im on the road now and dont have the phone number handy, however, Im
sure its on the website.
Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
9 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: <DWENSING@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
> --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/6/04 9:42:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> shempdowling@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
> > heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape.nbsp; It
fit
> > perfectly and looks great.nbsp; Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a
> > local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com
>
> Jeff,
> Could not find it on their web site even searching the name Jiffy Trim. Is
> there more to the name?
> Dale Ensing
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Here's the number.
800-769-7778
--- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>
> Thats all they gave me. If you call to order it, Im sure they'll know
what
> it is. Im on the road now and dont have the phone number handy, however,
Im
> sure its on the website.
>
> Jeff Dowling
> RV-6A, N915JD
> 9 hours
> Chicago/Louisville
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DWENSING@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 2/6/04 9:42:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > shempdowling@earthlink.net writes:
> >
> >
> > > heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape.nbsp; It
> fit
> > > perfectly and looks great.nbsp; Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at
a
> > > local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com
> >
> > Jeff,
> > Could not find it on their web site even searching the name Jiffy Trim.
Is
> > there more to the name?
> > Dale Ensing
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Any listers in San Juan |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
I'll be in SJU a lot the next 2 months. Anybody down here?
Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
9 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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| Subject: | Re: .........and another |
--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
Mark, yep, I'm flyin' - got about 70 hours on thuh bird now. You can see my
plane in the Feb issue of Sport Aviator. It's the first plane shown.
Chuckey is in north east tennessee. 'Bout 10 miles east of Greeneville. I
live in a fly-in community which is almost due east of the greeneville airport
(GCY). Maybe you can come up and see us sometime.
Yeah, I LOVE my Catto prop. Very quiet, sexy lookin' and I'm seein' 202mph
at 8000'.
Walt
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| Subject: | Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
Try http://www.atrim.com/Page97.html
I'm not sure whether this is the same product, but they have a couple of
different things that might work. Also check their complete index and
how-to section. Looks like they may have some other useful things.
Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage (setting up shop in Franklin,
Tennessee)
In a message dated 2/6/04 9:42:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
shempdowling@earthlink.net writes:
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> heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape.nbsp; It
fit
> perfectly and looks great.nbsp; Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a
> local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com
Could not find it on their web site even searching the name Jiffy Trim.
Is
there more to the name?
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| Subject: | .........and another |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
>
> Mark, yep, I'm flyin' - got about 70 hours on thuh bird now.
> You can see my
> plane in the Feb issue of Sport Aviator. It's the first plane shown.
>
> Chuckey is in north east tennessee. 'Bout 10 miles east of
> Greeneville. I
> live in a fly-in community which is almost due east of the
> greeneville airport
> (GCY). Maybe you can come up and see us sometime.
>
> Yeah, I LOVE my Catto prop. Very quiet, sexy lookin' and I'm
> seein' 202mph
> at 8000'.
Do you want all 1000+ of us to come and see you sometime?
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 436 hours
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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| Subject: | Great find on glare shield end cap/cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)" <F.vanderHulst@ucol.ac.nz>
FWIW, I used a piece of old TV antenna -- it's a tube rolled from
aluminium strip. The beauty (apart from the price!) is that there's
already slot in one side of the tube to fit it onto the glareshield
edge. I am still figuring out how to make it stay in place, however.
-----Original Message-----
From: DvdBock@aol.com [mailto:DvdBock@aol.com]
Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
--> RV-List message posted by: DvdBock@aol.com
For what its worth, if you have some leftover of the marine-type rudder
cable
cover -- not fancy but it slides on nicely and looks pretty good. Dave
Bockelman F1 Rocket
Learn real skills for the real world - Apply online
at http://www.ucol.ac.nz or call 0800 GO UCOL
(0800 46 8265) or txt free 3388 for more information
and make a good move to UCOL Universal College of
Learning.
Enrol with a public institute and be certain of your
future
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| Subject: | Build Wings Together or Separate? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)" <F.vanderHulst@ucol.ac.nz>
I built both wings at the same time, using two arms off a central pair
of posts. I'd do the same again, but with the wings on separate sets of
posts.
Go to http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/bunnys-guide/rv/bunny/, then to
Wings and Skinning in the Index.
From that page:
On reflection, I think the ideal jig would be set up on 3 posts in an
A-configuration. Put the root ends of both wings at the apex of the A
(not sure whether it'd be better to have the upper or lower surface
inside the A). Put a work-bench at the cross-bar of the A. As with the
empennage jig, the posts aren't really important. What is important is
to get the cross-arms in the right place and firm, and to have access to
both sides of the wings.
Frank
Learn real skills for the real world - Apply online
at http://www.ucol.ac.nz or call 0800 GO UCOL
(0800 46 8265) or txt free 3388 for more information
and make a good move to UCOL Universal College of
Learning.
Enrol with a public institute and be certain of your
future
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
Listers:
Just got back from the Soaring Society of America convention in Atlanta.
Van and Diane were in attendance. Great time. Wouldn't you like to hear
about how to soar about 2,000 miles along the Andes Mountains in Argentina,
in one day?
Anyway I noticed some of the conversation was about last summer's Return to
Kitty Hawk Race coast to coast glider race, which Van participated in. You
see Van had some mechanical problems with his nice new German glider. What
caused the buzz was that all these little RV airplanes were buzzing around
all over delivering parts and help to Van, an advantage none of the other
competitors had. Some people were kind of wondering what was up with that.
Why were all these people helping this quiet guy?
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
As soon as I saw the original post, I called and ordered 4' 1" Jiffy Trim
over the phone. They were very good to deal with. Will let you know how I like
it when it arrives. Thanks for the tip.
Dan N766DH RV-7A to fly this spring
In a message dated 2/8/04 1:49:12 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
shempdowling@earthlink.net writes:
> >Jeff,
> >Could not find it on their web site even searching the name Jiffy Trim. Is
> >there more to the name?
> >Dale Ensing
>
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: O-320 B3B Conical engine mount |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Joe;
I have an O-320 B3A Lycoming in my RV-4. I don't remember any problems like
you mention. Please explain a little more on the problems,as sugested in the
other post.
I can look mine over and try to help if I get more specific answers.
Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now
Charleston, Arkansas
"Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers"
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| Subject: | Re: >Re:Build Wings Together or Seperate |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I built both wings at the same time for our RV-4. I had two sets of posts
about 6 feet apart.
As others said,it is more convenient to do on one and turn around and do on
the other.
I only had 300 3/32" and 200 1/8" clecoes,so a little juggling is called
for,but it worked.
I built seperate on our first RV-4 , but I like the together much more.
Bob n' Lu Olds
oldsfolks@aol.com
Charleston,Arkansas
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| Subject: | Re: >Re:Build Wings Together or Seperate |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net>
I did mine separately but would go for both at once next time. Many
advantages. I heard a rumor that when Geo Orndorff was doing his second
wing on his second RV, he had to replay his own tape to see how to do
something!, This certainly happened to me, anyway.
Just don't put them too close together. The time will come when you want to
get some old guy like me to help and he won't be able to squat between them.
Denis
> From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
> Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:20:08 EST
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: >Re:Build Wings Together or Seperate
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> I built both wings at the same time for our RV-4. I had two sets of posts
> about 6 feet apart.
> As others said,it is more convenient to do on one and turn around and do on
> the other.
> I only had 300 3/32" and 200 1/8" clecoes,so a little juggling is called
> for,but it worked.
> I built seperate on our first RV-4 , but I like the together much more.
>
>
> Bob n' Lu Olds
> oldsfolks@aol.com
> Charleston,Arkansas
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Should I cancel my wing kit? :-) |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
Well, I was out-bid, so I'm not getting it. Darn! I was really looking
forward to using that M61A2 ("This aircraft was never demilled, not cut
ever and its complete with extras.") on the next guy that cut me off in
the landing pattern at an uncontrolled field
Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage (setting up shop in Franklin,
Tennessee) Still haven't started construction, but bought a wing kit.
Do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3075250452&category=46
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
Hello,
I have also bought Van's foam seats. I think the quality is pretty good on
the seat bottoms, not so good on the backs. The bottoms have I believe one
layer of temper-foam and the backs have none. Still when sitting in them for
test (and engine noises) I manage to fall asleep...pretty comfy.
My wife is doing the upholstering as I wouldn't have a clue. What follows
is some of her comments and our conclusions.
The drawings supplied with the foam are just that, drawings...not sewing
patterns. If you don't know how to sew, you are toast. See had to make her
own sewing patterns. With the foam you get a poor quality one page, one side
Xerox instruction sheet with half of it taken up by a picture of the
finished seats... Need I say more?
We thought the cost of pre made seats a monumental rip-off till she started
doing them. Still we figure will save at least $400.00 off the $800.00+ we
figured buying them would cost...oh and this includes the extra materials
for the sides, etc. Downside...a lot of time.
Of great help is "Creating Seats for the RV-6A" by Lori Millsap which is
posted on the Tennessee Valley RV Builders Group Web Site. She doesn't use
the Van's foam but everything else is relevant.
The two outfits we settled on that sell material are Airtex Interiors
<http://www.airtexinteriors.com/> and Douglas Interior Products
<http://www.dipi.com>. We are in rural Idaho so big aircraft interior
outfits are non-existent. The one we settled on finally was Airtex, though
both gave excellent service and sent sample books. Airtex makes good
material, (flame resistant) at a reasonable price. Douglas supplies primo
materials(98%wool for example) at a reasonable price though it is almost
twice as much. I wanted wool, but settled for a combination of vinyl and
cloth. Leather is too hot in summer, too cold in winter, and tooooo heavy
all the time.
My conclusion? Well, considering the kitchen remodel work I agreed to do in
exchange for her doing the seats, I would have to conclude that buying them
already made is a bargain! If you are going to buy Van's foam with the
intention of having someone else do them, line up the upholsterer 'before'
you buy the foam.
I have also had to 'modify' the foam and as I am using a crotch strap, I had
to guess where to cut the slot. Still, has anybody received anything from
anybody on this project that didn't require some modification?
Good luck
Regards,
Vince Himsl
RV-8 SB Finish
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bert murillo
Subject: RV-List: Seats
--> RV-List message posted by: " bert murillo" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
Hi:
I bought the seats from Van's, so I could have
them upholstered.
That was a bad idea, wish I had go direct to any
of the people, that do this for the rv's...
First ,Laurentis, or the others, do not accept
Van's foam, to be upholster... I understand that.
Then when I looked around for one of the automovil
places, many did not wanted to even consider doing it..
Most said, they would do it with their own cutting
patter etc..
And ont that will do it, tells me that the foam will
be reduced some how, and that the measurement for the
seats, will be slighly less than the support seat...
What is he talking about... any of you that had
used Vans foam, had any trouble having the seats finished..
Any suggestions...
Bert
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Linn,
no offense taken,
actually it was somewhat humorus as it got so out of context. Rob and I
dialouged a few times off list but I gave up.
All y'all is right, design your airplanes any way you want.
But I will stick by my original statement that both myself, most aircraft
repair manuals, and apparently Vans aircraft have found that straight ahead
or slight toe in causes the best behaviour for our respective tail draggers.
I don't give a penguin's patooty why, but I do know I have made a squirrely
aircraft or two much better by removing the slight toe out and going to a
slight toe in as the specs called for.
As long as you're not working on the left side while I'm working on the
right side of the same aircraft we should do ok, eh? ;{)
W
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Sam, Mike and Jerry,
I finally had the chance to fly the LCD version in really smooth air today.
No head/tail winds that I could detect. I could steer by leaning.
Chuck and I had it set at 4 4 and 7 for the trk/crs and pullin. It was
hunting somewhat, so I went back to 3 3 and 7. It got much better and
tracked darned near perfect, with only an occasional correction.
When we had set it to 4 and 4 in moderate rough air it corrected it from .02
to .01 nm or less off track. So it may be that 3 and 3 (factory defaults)is
a better overall setting given that .02 or 121 ft is more than fine enough
for rough air tracking. I haven't since flown it any time in rough air, but
if it likes the 4/4 for rough air it only takes a minute to adjust, and it
can be adjusted in trk mode.
Then we got to Camarillo. Rwy 08 wind 060 to 090 at 28 kts gusting to 38.
How the heck those two WX conditions can happen within 30nm and 5000ft of
each other is beyond me, but thank you God, both were fun.
It was one short landing and takeoff, and the Chicken Fried Steak was
delicious.
W
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