RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 02/09/04


Total Messages Posted: 29



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:54 AM - Re: EZ Pilot (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
     2. 03:58 AM - Re: Any listers in San Juan (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
     3. 04:57 AM - Re: EZ Pilot (Lenleg@aol.com)
     4. 05:20 AM - SERV Pics (Lenleg@aol.com)
     5. 05:22 AM - Mag Timing Slipped? (Ronnie Brown)
     6. 05:43 AM - Re: EZ Pilot (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
     7. 06:17 AM - Re: .........and another (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
     8. 06:34 AM - seats (Frazier, Vincent A)
     9. 07:21 AM - Re: Seats (Sam Buchanan)
    10. 07:23 AM - Re: Van's Helpers (Bob Japundza)
    11. 08:21 AM - Logbook entry for aerobatics (dmedema@att.net)
    12. 08:52 AM - Seats another question (Tim Bryan)
    13. 09:11 AM - Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover (Jeff Dowling)
    14. 09:26 AM - Re: Seats another question (Scott Bilinski)
    15. 10:13 AM - Re: Logbook entry for aerobatics (Bruce Gray)
    16. 10:13 AM - Re: Logbook entry for aerobatics (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
    17. 10:39 AM - Re: Seats another question (Tim Bryan)
    18. 10:43 AM - Re: Logbook entry for aerobatics (N13eer@aol.com)
    19. 11:01 AM - WANTED: Brake Pedals  ()
    20. 11:25 AM - Seat belts (Steve & Denise)
    21. 11:29 AM - Re: Seats another question (Vince Himsl)
    22. 12:49 PM - Re: Mag Timing Slipped? (Bob Japundza)
    23. 01:02 PM - Re: Seat belts (Garrett Bray)
    24. 05:11 PM - Seat Cushions (GMC)
    25. 05:20 PM - February 28th. Flyin/Drive in (Dana Overall)
    26. 06:32 PM - Re: Mag Timing Slipped? (linn walters)
    27. 06:53 PM - RVs around Asheville,NC (Nels Hanson)
    28. 08:05 PM - Knight Upholstery for RV (Sam Knight)
    29. 11:18 PM - Dynon -- they're workin' on it (Dan Checkoway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:54:19 AM PST US
    Subject: EZ Pilot
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Thanks for the update W. Mine arrives this week with the new screen and software updates. I look forward to testing it out this weekend. Mike Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wheeler North Subject: RV-List: EZ Pilot --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> Sam, Mike and Jerry, I finally had the chance to fly the LCD version in really smooth air today. No head/tail winds that I could detect. I could steer by leaning. Chuck and I had it set at 4 4 and 7 for the trk/crs and pullin. It was hunting somewhat, so I went back to 3 3 and 7. It got much better and tracked darned near perfect, with only an occasional correction. When we had set it to 4 and 4 in moderate rough air it corrected it from .02 to .01 nm or less off track. So it may be that 3 and 3 (factory defaults)is a better overall setting given that .02 or 121 ft is more than fine enough for rough air tracking. I haven't since flown it any time in rough air, but if it likes the 4/4 for rough air it only takes a minute to adjust, and it can be adjusted in trk mode. Then we got to Camarillo. Rwy 08 wind 060 to 090 at 28 kts gusting to 38. How the heck those two WX conditions can happen within 30nm and 5000ft of each other is beyond me, but thank you God, both were fun. It was one short landing and takeoff, and the Chicken Fried Steak was delicious. W == == == ==


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    Time: 03:58:10 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
    Subject: Re: Any listers in San Juan
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net> Jeff Dowling wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> > > I'll be in SJU a lot the next 2 months. Anybody down here? > > Jeff Dowling > RV-6A, N915JD > 9 hours > Chicago/Louisville here is good friend and sport pilot, not a rv builder. Email him.. Cuso Ortiz acrocuso@hotmail.com Phil in Illinois do not archive


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    Time: 04:57:22 AM PST US
    From: Lenleg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: EZ Pilot
    --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 2/9/04 6:59:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, mstewart@iss.net writes: > Thanks for the update W. > Mine arrives this week with the new screen and software updates. I look > forward to testing it out this weekend. > Mike > Mike: Were you able to send it back for the new face and updates? Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, N.C. N910LL 205 hrs


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    Time: 05:20:47 AM PST US
    From: Lenleg@aol.com
    Subject: SERV Pics
    --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com Pictures are posted for the first get together of the Southeast RV Squadron (SERV) on our website: www.bowenaero.com/serv Just go to view pictures and then events. Had a good turnout for BBQ at Stantons in Bennettsville, SC. Have to thank all the Mid-Atlantic guys for their inspiration ... these guys are the most active RV guys around ... always something going on !!! Anyone with an interest is welcome to join our group. You can learn more at the website. Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, N.C. N910LL 205 hrs


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    Time: 05:22:32 AM PST US
    From: "Ronnie Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Mag Timing Slipped?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ronnie Brown" <romott@adelphia.net> I am doing my first condition inspection and all is looking great except: When I checked my Slick mag timing, I found it at 32 degrees BTDC. Since our Cessna 172 in 10 years never had the timing reset except for the 500 hour mandatory inspections of the Bendix dual mag, this has me scratching my head. The timing on the Jeff Rose has not changed. The retaining bolts were tight, an internal inspection of the mag reveals nothing (however, I have not checked the internal timing yet) , and I KNOW the timing was set correctly (25 degrees BTDC) on this Lycoming IO360. I had a low static RPM - 2100 rpms - so we checked everything before changing the prop. Any worn parts in the gearing would cause the timing to be more retarded. Is it reasonable to think that the points could wear enough to cause the timing to move that much in only 120 hours? Or any other ideas? THANKS


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    Time: 05:43:11 AM PST US
    Subject: EZ Pilot
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Yes. & the Customer service has been outstanding. Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 2/9/04 6:59:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, mstewart@iss.net writes: > Thanks for the update W. > Mine arrives this week with the new screen and software updates. I look > forward to testing it out this weekend. > Mike > Mike: Were you able to send it back for the new face and updates? Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, N.C. N910LL 205 hrs == == == ==


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    Time: 06:17:29 AM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: .........and another
    --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com > Do you want all 1000+ of us to come and see you sometime? Sorry Alex, I started it by not going off-list with my reply........just too giddy about the new airplane I s'pose! But that is some beautiful country up yonder- East TN could use a fly-in! Mark - DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:34:58 AM PST US
    Subject: seats
    From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> Bert, You built the rest of the plane. You can sew your own seats. It's not that hard to do. It's a fun challenge. http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/upholstery.htm Vince


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    Time: 07:21:22 AM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Seats
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Vincent Himsl wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com> <snip> > > We thought the cost of pre made seats a monumental rip-off till she started > doing them. Still we figure will save at least $400.00 off the $800.00+ we > figured buying them would cost...oh and this includes the extra materials > for the sides, etc. Downside...a lot of time. > > Of great help is "Creating Seats for the RV-6A" by Lori Millsap which is > posted on the Tennessee Valley RV Builders Group Web Site. She doesn't use > the Van's foam but everything else is relevant. <snip> Here is the link: http://www.tvrvbg.org/interior.htm Sam Buchanan


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    Time: 07:23:36 AM PST US
    From: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Van's Helpers
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com> Larry, on the leg of the sailplane race from St. Louis to Indy Van called a mutual friend of ours looking to get some help with repairs to the flywheel on his Ventus. That friend called me to come help the next morning. They ended up doing a late-night attempt at repairs but the flywheel required a special puller which we did not have. We ended up making a tool to pull the flywheel on a lathe and got him all fixed up the next day. Long story short we got permission to land at the airport the leg was starting on (it was closed to all but the sailplanes) to deliver the tool, removed the flywheel, repaired the flywheel while they were driving the leg (no thermals and some weather scrubbed the leg) and got the flywheel to him by that evening in Dayton, OH. Van and his wife were very friendly and he explained quite a bit of the sailplane stuff to me, enough that it has stoked my interest; it was pretty neat to see a sailplane race being a flatlander. I don't think it would h ave been any different if it was someone else, its a race and things break, most of the RV guys I run around with would be happy to help anyone in that sort of circumstance. Regards, Bob RV-6 flying, F1 under const. ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:21:25 AM PST US
    From: dmedema@att.net
    Subject: Logbook entry for aerobatics
    --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net Since I'm nearing the end of my 25 hour Phase 1 flight test period, I had Terry Burch take my plane up and do the basic aerobatic maneuvers I hope to do in the future (after some training!) My understanding is I need to log the fact that these maneuvers were flown as part of Phase 1. Can anyone tell me the proper logbook entry language or point me to somewhere that will have the correct logbook entry language? Thanks, Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM 23.2 hours.


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    Time: 08:52:26 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com>
    Subject: Seats another question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com> Hi all, I also bought the seat foams from Van's. At this point, I do not know who will do the upholstry work. I had planned on getting it done by a local shop. I did not receive ANY instruction sheet with mine and quite frankly didn't know it existed till mentioned here. My question is this: If I put the bottom cushions in then the back it sticks way up past the top of the seat. If I put the back in first it fits nice but the bottom does not. Are we supposed to modify these foams to fit? What is supposed to go in first, the bottom or the back? Thanks for any help. Tim Bryan RV-6 N616TB Redmond, Oregon


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    Time: 09:11:44 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> Here are the part numbers. Black = 11397 White = 11405 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Kuss" <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Great find on glare shield end cap/cover > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> > > Jeff, > How about giving us the part number for this item? > Charlie Kuss > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> > > > >I found a great piece of moulding for sliding on the glare shield/fore head cutter. Its a pretty heavy duty piece with some metal in it to keep a round shape. It fit perfectly and looks great. Its called Jiffy Trim and I got it at a local fabric shop in Louisville, www.Baerfabrics.com It was $2.75 for a yard. Best money I havent spent in a while. > > > >If you cant find it, they said they would ship. Comes in black and white. > > > >Jeff Dowling > >RV-6A, N915JD > >9 hours > >Chicago/Louisville > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:26:24 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: Seats another question
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> A guy here in town just found the same problem, AFTER, he had the seats upholstered!! At 08:51 AM 2/9/04 -0800, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com> > >Hi all, > >I also bought the seat foams from Van's. At this point, I do not know who >will do the upholstry work. I had planned on getting it done by a local >shop. I did not receive ANY instruction sheet with mine and quite frankly >didn't know it existed till mentioned here. > >My question is this: If I put the bottom cushions in then the back it >sticks way up past the top of the seat. If I put the back in first it fits >nice but the bottom does not. Are we supposed to modify these foams to fit? > What is supposed to go in first, the bottom or the back? > >Thanks for any help. >Tim Bryan >RV-6 N616TB >Redmond, Oregon > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 do not archive


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    Time: 10:13:06 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
    Subject: Logbook entry for aerobatics
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org> I would think a statement that lists the maneuvers performed along with the entry airspeed for each would suffice. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmedema@att.net Subject: RV-List: Logbook entry for aerobatics --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net Since I'm nearing the end of my 25 hour Phase 1 flight test period, I had Terry Burch take my plane up and do the basic aerobatic maneuvers I hope to do in the future (after some training!) My understanding is I need to log the fact that these maneuvers were flown as part of Phase 1. Can anyone tell me the proper logbook entry language or point me to somewhere that will have the correct logbook entry language? Thanks, Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM 23.2 hours. == == == ==


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    Time: 10:13:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Logbook entry for aerobatics
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> You can just say "aircraft has been flown through the following maneuvers: List em out one by one" Don't worry about doing em all now. If you don't do a loop now, you can put the plane back into phase 1 at anytime, and perform any maneuver you wish, log it, and put it back into phase 2. That is at least how my FSDO explained it to me. Welcome to experimentals. You couldn't do that with a cert.'d plane:) I did this with spin testing. I waited past my 40hrs till I was more comfortable with the plane before I did any spins. Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmedema@att.net Subject: RV-List: Logbook entry for aerobatics --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net Since I'm nearing the end of my 25 hour Phase 1 flight test period, I had Terry Burch take my plane up and do the basic aerobatic maneuvers I hope to do in the future (after some training!) My understanding is I need to log the fact that these maneuvers were flown as part of Phase 1. Can anyone tell me the proper logbook entry language or point me to somewhere that will have the correct logbook entry language? Thanks, Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM 23.2 hours. == == == ==


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    Time: 10:39:46 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com>
    Subject: Re: Seats another question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com> Oh....., Well, I had to put mine in to hangar (shop) fly my airplane as soon as I got them home. Tim -------Original Message------- From: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Seats another question --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless com> A guy here in town just found the same problem, AFTER, he had the seats upholstered!! At 08:51 AM 2/9/04 -0800, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com> > >Hi all, > >I also bought the seat foams from Van's. At this point, I do not know who >will do the upholstry work. I had planned on getting it done by a local >shop. I did not receive ANY instruction sheet with mine and quite frankly >didn't know it existed till mentioned here. > >My question is this: If I put the bottom cushions in then the back it >sticks way up past the top of the seat. If I put the back in first it fits >nice but the bottom does not. Are we supposed to modify these foams to fit? > What is supposed to go in first, the bottom or the back? > >Thanks for any help. >Tim Bryan >RV-6 N616TB >Redmond, Oregon > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 do not archive .


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    Time: 10:43:49 AM PST US
    From: N13eer@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Logbook entry for aerobatics
    --> RV-List message posted by: N13eer@aol.com Doug, Check you limitations. Mine had the wording the FAA wanted me to use writen into them. It said something like no acro unless it is performed during phase I and the following entry is made it the aircraft logbook... If it is not there let me know and I will send you a copy of the exact wording. Alan Kritzman Cedar Rapids, IA N8EM 120 hours In a message dated 2/9/2004 11:20:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, dmedema@att.net writes: Can anyone tell me the proper logbook entry language or point me to somewhere that will have the correct logbook entry language? Thanks, Doug Medema


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    Time: 11:01:22 AM PST US
    From: <klwerner@comcast.net>
    Subject: WANTED: Brake Pedals
    --> RV-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net> This pertains mainly to earlier -6(a) builders: Our local EAA Chapter is in need of ONE SET of BRAKE-PEDALS from the older style *floor*-mounted Rudder Bars for our Chapter Project. So, if you have a spare set of these left over (from converting to the newer overhead style rudder bars, etc.), we sure could use these older brake pedals. Please email me directly if you have these specific brake pedals left over. Thanks, and DO NOT ARCHIVE Konrad klwerner@comcast.net


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    Time: 11:25:23 AM PST US
    From: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
    Subject: Seat belts
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net> I have Van's seat belts SBH-6 and shoulder harness and I'm finding them a bit too small. I have my seat back in the center hinge pin as per plans and my seat cushions are from Becki Orndorff. They're plush but not to the extreme. I can do up my seat belt fine but I have only about 1-2 inches of extra strap on each side. This is when I'm outfitted for Canadians winters as well. I'm not at all a big guy either. 5' 10", 170 lbs. Mind you my waste has grown since I've started building my airplane and maybe now that I'm flying I'll lose a little. If I'm going to take some friends flying, I hate to say the belts will be too small. Anybody else experience this? I have asked Van's for the vendor contact and they will not sell extra material. Any suggestions besides moving the seat and rudder petals (i.e. pain in the arse). Steve RV7A 27.0 hours Van's Air Force - World Wide Wing www.vansaircraft.net ADVERTISEMENT a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV7and7A/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: RV7and7A-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com


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    Time: 11:29:37 AM PST US
    From: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
    Subject: Seats another question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Vince Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com> You need to put a pillow case on the foam to protect it, put it in the plane and sit on it till it settles. Then you will have a better idea as to how it works. I am guessing that the seats were designed to fit right when sat in. If they fit perfect before you sat in them, they might compress to where they were too small. You can always cut but adding on is impossible. Also, you will be pulling the upholstery pretty tight in final assembly. Still I found the seat backs about an inch too long and there is an annoying gap between the foam bottom and the foam back. My wife has only completed the front seat bottom (RV8) and when the back is done, will report back to list. For all I know, that too may 'self correct'. I am assuming that the seat backs go all the way down to the floor and the bottoms butt against them. Otherwise the backs would be always falling forward. This seat thread highlites the problem of building something that changes shape when you upholster it, install it, and finally sit in it. But... I believe all these seat concerns and questions could be largely eliminated by greatly improved assembly instructions from Van's Aircraft. Regards, Vince Himsl RV8 - FB (forever built) Finish "Aerosport and LightSpeed, but still procrastinating on the canopy" -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan Subject: RV-List: Seats another question --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com> Hi all, I also bought the seat foams from Van's. At this point, I do not know who will do the upholstry work. I had planned on getting it done by a local shop. I did not receive ANY instruction sheet with mine and quite frankly didn't know it existed till mentioned here. My question is this: If I put the bottom cushions in then the back it sticks way up past the top of the seat. If I put the back in first it fits nice but the bottom does not. Are we supposed to modify these foams to fit? What is supposed to go in first, the bottom or the back? Thanks for any help. Tim Bryan RV-6 N616TB Redmond, Oregon


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    Time: 12:49:28 PM PST US
    From: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Mag Timing Slipped?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com> Ronnie, most certainly without lube on the cam the plastic cam follower could wear quickly. Or the points adjustment screw could be loose. Or there could be some arcing across the points (bad condenser) which could cause some buildup of crap on the points and thus they would open later. Educate yourself on the internals of your mag by having a look inside; I'd bet that is the culprit. To set the e-gap on a slick mag you need to get some special tools. Check www.sacskyranch.com for the tools. Have fun. Regards, Bob RV-6 flying, F1 under const. ---------------------------------


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    Time: 01:02:57 PM PST US
    From: "Garrett Bray" <braygarrett@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Seat belts
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Garrett Bray" <braygarrett@hotmail.com> >From: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV-List: Seat belts >Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:21:16 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net> > > >I have Van's seat belts SBH-6 and shoulder harness and I'm finding >them a bit too small. I had the same problem, made "extenders" from 4130 steel and bolted them to the seat belt brackets and then bolted the belts to the extenders. I added about 3" as I recall. I'm 5'9" and 170 lbs. Gary Bray 1998 RV-6 Keep up with high-tech trends here at "Hook'd on Technology."


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    Time: 05:11:34 PM PST US
    From: "GMC" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
    Subject: Seat Cushions
    --> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca> Hi Tim Here is how I made my seats, may give you and others some ideas. 1) find comfortable (for you) car seat, copy the contours of the bottom cushion and lumbar area onto cardboard. 2) Seat backs, - use layered foam, base 3/4" high density foam (similar to conforfoam), middle 1" medium & top egg crate foam. I purchased foams at local foam shop. 3) glue base & middle layer together, use spray on contact cement (buy two cans). 4) cut & shape lumbar cross pieces to match cardboard pattern, if desired triangular edge strips can be added around perimeter. Glue on top of middle layer. 5) then add top layer of egg crate foam. 6) Seat Bottoms - to fill the floor pan area. Get a sheet of 2" thick styrofoam (blue) building insulation. This is used standing on edge, eight pieces laminated together to make width of cushion. Reason for using it on edge is so you can easily shape individual pieces (band saw) to match your cardboard car seat pattern, seat back and floor pan shape before laminating them together (liquid nails). 7) glue the sandwiched foam layers on top of laminated styrofoam (bottom foams same or thicker than backrest). 8) take to automotive hot rod upholstery person for covering, about $300. 9) this made a firm seat cushion which I prefer. Makes for easier entry & exit, better footing than stepping on a really soft cushion. 10) bottom cushion goes against metal backrest, sew velcro on bottom of seat cushion and some industrial strength velcro glues on floor. 11) have an extra flap of material sewn on top of backrest seat cushion that will be used to attach to top of backrest with five metal snap buttons. This will keep cushion in place as you slide down into seat (possibly lots of pressure here). 12) if using fabric consider having zippers installed so covers can be removed for cleaning. 13) make cushions easy to remove, you will be under the instrument panel many times in the future! Advantages - comfortable for me, wife says a bit firm but I think mine are about same as a Boeing cockpit seat. They float. Standing up well at 240 hrs but are getting dirty. Disadvantage - no booster cushion means it only fits my short size, I have a temporary thinner bottom cushion for tall guys, it is made from gymnasium exercise matt foam. George in Langley --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com> Hi all, I also bought the seat foams from Van's. At this point, I do not know who will do the upholstry work. I had planned on getting it done by a local shop. I did not receive ANY instruction sheet with mine and quite frankly didn't know it existed till mentioned here. My question is this: If I put the bottom cushions in then the back it sticks way up past the top of the seat. If I put the back in first it fits nice but the bottom does not. Are we supposed to modify these foams to fit? What is supposed to go in first, the bottom or the back? Thanks for any help. Tim Bryan


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    Time: 05:20:24 PM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: February 28th. Flyin/Drive in
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> Just a quick heads up on the get together I am having at my shop in Richmond, KY on February 28th. Weather permitting; it looks like we are going to have a nice representation of RVs on the ramp at i39. I have heard from fliers in OH, IN, GA, TN, SC, NC, IL, PA, MI and WVA who are planning on flying in. Im working on getting some formation groups lined up with local press coverage. I have heard form far too many to mention who are planning on driving. Remember, Im supplying the beer and Hooters wings, you provide the transportation to the airport or by car. Ill have two cars shuttling between the airport and my house/shop. Control Vision is sending a complete software package to give away as a door prize, Vans is sending two starter kits for newbees to work on, Grand Rapids is sending a 10% off coupon on an EIS 4000 system, Avery is sending a box of tools and several other vendors are being lined up. Im talking with Trio EZ autopilot trying to work something out. You can see the entire text of what is going on the main page at vansairforce.net Ill try and keep everyone informed as to any new giveaways and look forward to the 28th. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive Create your own personal Web page with the info you use most, at My MSN. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 06:32:15 PM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Mag Timing Slipped?
    --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> Ronnie Brown wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ronnie Brown" <romott@adelphia.net> > >I am doing my first condition inspection and all is looking great except: > >When I checked my Slick mag timing, I found it at 32 degrees BTDC. Since >our Cessna 172 in 10 years never had the timing reset except for the 500 >hour mandatory inspections of the Bendix dual mag, this has me scratching my >head. The timing on the Jeff Rose has not changed. > >The retaining bolts were tight, an internal inspection of the mag reveals >nothing (however, I have not checked the internal timing yet) , and I KNOW >the timing was set correctly (25 degrees BTDC) on this Lycoming IO360. I >had a low static RPM - 2100 rpms - so we checked everything before changing >the prop. Any worn parts in the gearing would cause the timing to be more >retarded. > >Is it reasonable to think that the points could wear enough to cause the >timing to move that much in only 120 hours? > >Or any other ideas? > >THANKS > I'm going to stick my neck out and say that the timing should have been checked after the first 10 hrs. especially with a new mag. I'll say that the 12 degree change is significant, but not to worry. Reset the mag and check again in 10 hrs. There may be significant wear somewhere that's not apparent and another check would alert you to a change in the mag. I also think you should have detected the change earlier than waiting for the annual conditional inspection. Now that a year has passed, most all data points hould be stable, but with a new engine and airplane ...... be alert for changes and especially data points off from the norm. Linn


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    Time: 06:53:04 PM PST US
    From: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RVs around Asheville,NC
    --> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com> Any RV guys around Asheville,NC? I am supposed to fly out there this Saturday for a wedding. I'm planning on flying into AVL sometime Sat.morning and the wedding in the evening,and then flying out Sunday PM back toward the Chicago area. Any hanger space that could hold an RV-6 Sat. night available? __________________________________ http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html


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    Time: 08:05:42 PM PST US
    From: Sam Knight <knightair@lv.rmci.net>
    Subject: Knight Upholstery for RV
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Knight <knightair@lv.rmci.net> RV Builders: I have been in the upholstery business for 30 years and have been making upholstery products for kitplanes for 18 years. I have interior kits available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for several kitplane manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon request. For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702) 207-6681 or e mail me at knightair@lv.rmci.net. If you e-mail for information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos available upon request. Sincerely, KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC. "Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products Sam Knight


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    Time: 11:18:08 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Dynon -- they're workin' on it
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> At the request of another builder, I'm posting a recent update from my web site here on the list. I'm probably repeating things that have already been discovered and stated by other builders (Sam, Paul, Kevin, etc.). Anyway, here's what I wrote last week for what it's worth... (Dynon, since you're listening, please correct me if I've misrepresented you in any way, for which I apologize in advance!) )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ------------------------------------------------------ February 3, 2004 I spoke on the phone with Dynon engineering today. What I was told is that they are well aware of the issue and they're working on the fix as we speak. As best as they could describe it to me, the problem originates in the remote compass (EDC-D10), is transmitted to the EFIS head via the connecting wires, and then the EFIS head bleeds interference into the rest of the system by way of the wires connecting to the power bus(es). I spoke at length with one engineer about the likely form of the fix, which is probably going to be a filter that plugs inline with the existing connector. Essentially, the filter will plug into the EFIS, and the existing wire harness will plug into the filter. When the engineer mentioned that the filter may come in the form of a right-angle connector, I very strongly endorsed it -- that's an ideal physical form. Due to the already deep nature of the instrument, and its proximity to the sub-panel, a right-angle connector would definitely improve things (wires go straight down rather than through the sub-panel). In any case, the engineer assured me that this issue is Dynon's top priority to resolve. I asked if Dynon would be proactive about contacting customers when the fix is ready (which he said may be a month from now), and he said that it will most likely be handled on a those-who-call-in basis, because the problem isn't necessarily widespread. Again, it only seems to be a factor on installations using the EDC-D10 remote compass. Ironically, I spoke with Dynon about their new OAT offering. They're going to charge something like $65 for the new OAT probe. Here's the irony...the OAT probe requires the external compass to be installed. The reason is because they've "run out of pins" on the EFIS head (predictably, there's only that one connector back there). So if you thought you were going to get away without the remote compass, think again. Think you can get away without OAT? Well, it's not just OAT. OAT provides the Dynon a means of automatically calculating true airspeed, density altitude, etc. Kinda useful! Will I be installing the OAT? Jeez, for 65 bucks it seems like it would be worth it to have on-screen automatic true airspeed. But...in my case I've already got an OAT probe and digital reading on the ACS2002. No, the probe is not compatible, for whatever reason. So it'll be a toss-up for me as to whether I install a second OAT probe just to get the true airspeed and density altitude readout. We shall see. Let's first see how Dynon responds to the EMI issue. Now to some testing that I did. I had my suspicions about the radios, the antennas, the buses, etc., so I did my best to isolate the issue in my own installation. I basically tried every combination of antenna, bus, and isolation of power. The only thing that made a difference was removing the Dynon's main and keep-alive power sources. When those two wires were disconnected (I just pulled the fuses, it was easy), the COM issue almost disappeared. The NAV issue was definitely reduced, but the ILS signal still managed to be flagged intermittently. Could be that I'm on the ground in a closed hangar...but it did come back to life when I flipped the Dynon off. So power isolation does make a difference, but it doesn't resolve the issue completely (nor is it a viable solution). Swapping antennas didn't make diddly worth of difference. Dimming the display doesn't do squat (as I mentioned it's the remote compass feeding EMI, not radiation from the display, as far as I know). Well, I wasted a morning toying around with the Dynon and stuff, and my conclusion (if you can call it that) is that I'm waiting for Dynon to come out with "the fix," and I have every bit of confidence that Dynon will resolve this issue. Since I won't be leaping into IMC with this brand new homebuilt plane right off the bat regardless of whether or not the panel is operating perfectly, there's plenty of time for this to be resolved.




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