Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:33 AM - Re: Re(2): !New! CS props for sale (KIMSEYCO@aol.com)
2. 03:25 AM - Re: Crossflow Engine Proposal (RV8ter@aol.com)
3. 04:37 AM - Aluminum to Poly tube (Pete Howell)
4. 05:29 AM - Re: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share (Charlie Kuss)
5. 05:46 AM - Greatest EBAY Item Ever. (Wier, Daniel C.)
6. 06:05 AM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (Steve Struyk)
7. 06:12 AM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (Sam Buchanan)
8. 06:26 AM - Re(2): Re(2): !New! CS props for sale (Kevin Horton)
9. 06:37 AM - static pressure line drain (DWENSING@aol.com)
10. 06:42 AM - Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. (Nick N)
11. 06:52 AM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (John Danielson)
12. 07:35 AM - Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. (Brian Denk)
13. 07:51 AM - Re: Re(2): Re(2): !New! CS props for sale (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
14. 07:56 AM - Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. (C. Rabaut)
15. 07:57 AM - Garmin GNS 430 Wiring Schema/Instructions - Needed (Frank Dombroski)
16. 08:27 AM - Anyone want to trade for old style tips? (Mike Nellis)
17. 08:29 AM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (Dan Checkoway)
18. 08:36 AM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (Jeff Point)
19. 08:38 AM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (Cy Galley)
20. 08:53 AM - Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. (Phil N)
21. 09:01 AM - Carbs, Turbos, and CFM... (Bill VonDane)
22. 09:44 AM - Re: Fuse kit (Cammie Patch)
23. 09:51 AM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (N13eer@aol.com)
24. 10:37 AM - Re: Garmin GNS 430 Wiring Schema/Instructions - Needed (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
25. 12:02 PM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (Jim Oke)
26. 12:56 PM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
27. 01:13 PM - Re: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Jim Jewell)
28. 01:16 PM - Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. (Paul Besing)
29. 01:28 PM - need old RV-ators (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
30. 01:29 PM - Re: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Sam Buchanan)
31. 01:38 PM - Re: !New! CS props for sale (Dave Bristol)
32. 01:54 PM - Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. (Kai Schumann)
33. 01:56 PM - Re: Aluminum to Poly tube (John Danielson)
34. 02:17 PM - Re: need old RV-ators (Gert)
35. 02:37 PM - Re: Carbs, Turbos, and CFM... (Kevin Horton)
36. 03:41 PM - Transponder Checks (Rvsearey@aol.com)
37. 04:30 PM - Re: Carbs, Turbos, and CFM... (Doug Rozendaal)
38. 04:32 PM - Wire Sizes in the wing (Stein Bruch)
39. 07:35 PM - Re: Transponder Checks (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
40. 10:06 PM - Re: need old RV-ators (Jim/Kathy)
41. 10:56 PM - MT Propeller weights (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
42. 10:59 PM - Re: static pressure line drain (Vanremog@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: !New! CS props for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: KIMSEYCO@aol.com
did u read this
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| Subject: | Re: Crossflow Engine Proposal |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
With the electric MT prop governor recommended by Egg, the recomendation is
to turn it off for acro because it's SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER than a hydraulic
governor and can't keep up with the requirements - too easy to overspeed the
engine for sure. One estimate I heard of was the electric is about 1/6th the speed
- reaction time - of a hydraulic system. So you turn it off for acro and end
up fixed pitch.
Not what I want. RVs are chiefly designed for speed and are slippery animals
so I want the props help when it's needed as much as any other time for my
mission - braking during acro. Just a personal choice.
lucky
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| Subject: | Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Hello,
I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have people
made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are there
special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the ACS
catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the first
few inches.
Thanks,
Pete
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| Subject: | Re: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share |
Available!
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> Available!
Jim,
Do you think it wise to install the compass modules that far aft? They will be
fairly close to the steel elevator horn weldments. Since these weldments move
during flight, this could cause rather erratic errors.
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
>
>
>A new Email List Photo Share is available:
>
> Poster: Jim Jewell <jjewell@telus.net>
>
>
> Subject: Dynon Compass Module
>
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/jjewell@telus.net.02.11.2004/index.html
>
>
> o Main Photo Share Index
>
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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> o Submitting a Photo Share
>
> If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
> following information along with your email message and files:
>
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> 2) Your Full Name:
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| Subject: | Greatest EBAY Item Ever. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wier, Daniel C." <daniel@thegreatwhite.net>
I know this is off Topic, but I figured you all would want to see this if you have
not.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3077361636
Daniel Wier
RV-7
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
Pete,
I used the same fittings on the Aluminum (Nylo-Seal) as the poly. They are
both 1/4 O.D. and seem to grip/seal just fine.
Steve Struyk
RV-8, N842S (res.)
St. Charles, MO, Panel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Subject: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have people
> made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are there
> special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the ACS
> catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the
first
> few inches.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Pete Howell wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have people
> made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are there
> special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the ACS
> catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the first
> few inches.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
No fittings required. Go to an auto parts store, find some plastic
tubing with an ID of 1/4", and cut a piece three inches long; slide it
over the ends of the poly and aluminum tubing, and you are done.
Sam Buchanan (RV-6, 545 hrs)
http://thervjournal.com
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| Subject: | !New! CS props for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 02/11/2004 5:53:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>khorton01@rogers.com writes:
>There is a lot more to harmonic vibration than the power that the
>prop hub was designed for. The resonant frequency of the blades vs
>the frequency spectrum produced by the engine is a much bigger issue.
>
>Just look at the FAA Type Certificate Data Sheet P-920 for the
>Hartzell props that many of us are using - you will find widely
>varying rpm restrictions for different model O-360s using the same
>hub, even though many of the engines have the same power output.
>
>Search page:
><http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/Mai
>nFrame?OpenFrameSet>
>
>Direct link to TCDS P-920:
>
><http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/c
>459056338a0f90a86256d600050815a/$FILE/P-920.pdf>
>
>--
>Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
>Ottawa, Canada
>http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
>
>MT Propeller had already gone through all of the analysis and testing before
>I received a propeller from them.
>
>All I did was a performance comparison flight. I wonder why do I feel like
>some of you guys like to shoot the messenger?
>
>Please remember that MT Propeller is a certified propeller manufacturer.
>They have been through all of this with every propeller they
>manufacture. They
>have specific RPM restrictions for their standard propellers on the non
>counterweighted crankshaft Lycoming 360 engine, also. Been there, done that.
>
>This one is different. It was designed specifically to not have any Mid
>Range RPM restriction on any Lycoming 360 engine. Cyclic loads,
>harmonics, the
>whole 9 yards.
>
>If you just bought a Hartzell, then I guess I can feel sorry for you.
>
>Jim Ayers
>
Les,
Sorry that you felt I was "trying to shoot the messenger". Not at
all. I do appreciate you helping to bring another prop option on to
the market. I was just trying to make sure that other readers didn't
take your statement at face value, as it gave the wrong impression
about prop-engine compatibility.
Yes, I've got a Hartzell, but I only bought one because my
prop-engine combination doesn't have any rpm restrictions. If I had
an O-360-A series, I would certainly be looking at other props like
this MT.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | static pressure line drain |
--> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
What type of device is usually used for draining moisture from the static
pressure line
before it gets to the instruments? Or, is the line periodically undone at the
low point to allow any accumulated moisture to drain?
Dale Ensing
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| Subject: | Greatest EBAY Item Ever. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
Funny, no one bid on it when it first listed at $850K, now they've upped
it to just over a Million.
BTW, the correct link is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3077361636
Don't know why but the original lost an Equal sign.
Would be way cool to have, that's for sure.
Nick
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wier, Daniel C.
Subject: RV-List: Greatest EBAY Item Ever.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wier, Daniel C."
<daniel@thegreatwhite.net>
I know this is off Topic, but I figured you all would want to see this
if you have not.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3077361636
Daniel Wier
RV-7
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| Subject: | Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
Just flare the poly as you would aluminum tubing and use Aluminum AN
fittings. Treat the poly as if it was aluminum.
John L. Danielson
307-266-2524
johnd@wlcwyo.com
WLC, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Howell
Subject: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell"
<pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Hello,
I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have
people
made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are
there
special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the
ACS
catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the
first
few inches.
Thanks,
Pete
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Greatest EBAY Item Ever. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>>I know this is off Topic, but I figured you all would want to see this if
>>you have not.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3077361636
>
>Daniel Wier
>RV-7
And cheap at twice the price, too!!
Very cool. I'll call my accountant.
Accountant just called back. All I heard was maniacal laughter.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
do not archive
Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your
online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: !New! CS props for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
In a message dated 02/12/2004 6:27:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
khorton01@rogers.com writes:
I was just trying to make sure that other readers didn't
take your statement at face value, as it gave the wrong impression
about prop-engine compatibility.
Yes, I've got a Hartzell, but I only bought one because my
prop-engine combination doesn't have any rpm restrictions. If I had
an O-360-A series, I would certainly be looking at other props like
this MT.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
OOPS. That's a little misleading. :-)
The Lycoming model number uses a fourth digit to identify a counterweighted
crankshaft.
While the "A" series may not have a counterweighted crankshaft in that
series, the fact that the model number starts with an "A", or "M", or whatever,
does
not identify a counterweighted crankshaft.
The specific number used for the fourth digit defines the specific
counterweights installed.
Please don't take my opinion on this, since it can be a safety of flight
issue.
Contact Lycoming at 570-323-6181 from 8AM to 5 PM (Eastern Standard Time).
Let's see. Cyclic loads, engine harmonics, engine impulse loading, propeller
blade design and natural frequencies. How far past basic physics for a brute
force 300 hp hub should I have gone before it wouldn't be misleading?
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
...well our negotiations fell though (when my silly ol' bank went and told
them that I had "Insufficient Funds"... Damn Banks!).
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick N <rvator@nicknaf.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Greatest EBAY Item Ever.
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
>
> Funny, no one bid on it when it first listed at $850K, now they've upped
> it to just over a Million.
>
> BTW, the correct link is:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3077361636
>
> Don't know why but the original lost an Equal sign.
> Would be way cool to have, that's for sure.
>
> Nick
> Do Not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wier, Daniel C.
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Greatest EBAY Item Ever.
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wier, Daniel C."
> <daniel@thegreatwhite.net>
>
> I know this is off Topic, but I figured you all would want to see this
> if you have not.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3077361636
>
> Daniel Wier
> RV-7
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Garmin GNS 430 Wiring Schema/Instructions - Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: Frank Dombroski <f_dombroski@yahoo.com>
I am seeking a copy of the GNS 430 wiring diagrams, prefferably electronic. Garmin
does not support the download.
Please email to:
f_dombroski@Yahoo.com
Thanks
Frank Dombroski
RV-8 Nearly There
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| Subject: | Anyone want to trade for old style tips? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Nellis" <mike@bmnellis.com>
I've got an unused set of the old style wing tips for my -6 that I'd
like to trade for the newer style "sheared" wingtips. My wingtips are
completely unused with no holes drilled and no cutting, just like they
came in the wing kit.
I'm looking for a straight across trade but I'll entertain any other
type of offer. Drop me an email at mike@bmnellis.com
Mike Nellis
RV-6 Skinning Fuselage N699BM
1947 Stinson 108-2 NC9666K
http://bmnellis.com
CMRA #32 RC51
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
To "sleeve" over the aluminum/nylon joint, I used 1/4" silicone hose (bought
from Spruce: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/siliconehose.php)
and little hose clamps.
http://images.rvproject.com/images/2003/20031222_silicone_joint.jpg
My pitot/static/xpdr check is on 2/23, so I'll report back if I have any
issues with that particular setup.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Subject: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have people
> made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are there
> special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the ACS
> catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the
first
> few inches.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
I second this approach. Just flare the poly tubing a little more
aggressively (practice on scrap) and use an AN union. I just did a
leak/ manometer test on my pitot and it doesn't leak a drop.
Jeff Point
RV-6 very close
Milwaukee WI
John Danielson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
>
>Just flare the poly as you would aluminum tubing and use Aluminum AN
>fittings. Treat the poly as if it was aluminum.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Rubber hose works very well and is used on some certified planes-----
Original Message -----
From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
> Pete Howell wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell"
<pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have
people
> > made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are
there
> > special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the
ACS
> > catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the
first
> > few inches.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Pete
>
>
> No fittings required. Go to an auto parts store, find some plastic
> tubing with an ID of 1/4", and cut a piece three inches long; slide it
> over the ends of the poly and aluminum tubing, and you are done.
>
> Sam Buchanan (RV-6, 545 hrs)
> http://thervjournal.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Greatest EBAY Item Ever. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil N" <pnewlon@toosan.com>
Bummer, it sold ....
F/A-18A Navy Blue Angel Hornet Item number: 3077361636
Bidding has ended for this item (billtopshelf is the winner)
If you are billtopshelf, click the Continue button to pay now.
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>
> >>I know this is off Topic, but I figured you all would want
> to see this
> >>if
> >>you have not.
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3077361636
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| Subject: | Carbs, Turbos, and CFM... |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Anyone have any idea what the CFM rating on the marvel carbs are for an
O320, and or what CFM a turbo would have to be able to flow on an O320?
Anyone have knowledge of putting a turbo on an O320 out there?
-Bill VonDane
EAA Tech Counselor
RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Cammie Patch" <cammie@sunvalley.net>
Thanks for the reply Ron. I guess no one else has received a -7 fuse kit
lately. I finally found the inventory list, it was wrapped up with some of
the parts (the new rudder kit) in the bottom of the box. It was literally
one of the last parts to be unwrapped. I have yet to see any -7 instructions
to replace the -6 plans binder, I guess I'll have to call Van's. Maybe the
list is placed in a variety of locations depending on what options (I have a
tip up nose dragging new ruddered stepless setup.
Cammie
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" <ron@walker.net>
My pick list was stapled to the inside wall of the crate -- along with the
instructions for installing the step kit. If they are not that obvious, I'd
be asking Vans about it. I think the added pages were inside of the larger
drawings. Yep .. I just checked my photos and sure enough they are stapled
to the inside wall of the box that contains the rollbar and plans. Not sure
if this list allows attachments , but I'll try.
Ron
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Cammie Patch" <cammie@sunvalley.net>
>
>
> I just got my fuselage kit, began constructing the huge mound of paper.
I've
> been through both boxes but I can't find the inventory list or pages to
add
> to my instruction book (I'm a rv6 to rv7 convert so I need pages for the
7).
> Can anybody tell me where to look?
> Cammie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: N13eer@aol.com
Pete,
I was planning on using a short piece of rubber hose and a couple of hose clamps
as I have seen others use. But while wandering around the local ACE hardware
store I found a butt fitting that I think is used to hook up ice maker in a
frezzer. It is the kind you just push the tube in and it won't come back out
unless you hold the little ring around the tube. It has an o-ring seal and when
I tested it there were no leaks. I marked both tubes so I could see if the
fitting moved. There has been no movement in 120 hours of flying.
Hope this helps,
Alan Kritzman
Cedar Rapids, IA
RV-8
In a message dated 2/12/2004 7:36:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
writes:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
>Hello,
>
>I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have people
>made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are there
>special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the ACS
>catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the first
>few inches.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pete
>
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| Subject: | Garmin GNS 430 Wiring Schema/Instructions - Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
It kills your mailbox Frank.
I have put it in my downloads section. If you are installing a 430. You
need one of these.
It is 4.5mb pdf file.
Enjoy.
Mike Stewart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Dombroski
Subject: RV-List: Garmin GNS 430 Wiring Schema/Instructions - Needed
--> RV-List message posted by: Frank Dombroski <f_dombroski@yahoo.com>
I am seeking a copy of the GNS 430 wiring diagrams, prefferably
electronic. Garmin does not support the download.
Please email to:
f_dombroski@Yahoo.com
Thanks
Frank Dombroski
RV-8 Nearly There
Do Not Archive
---------------------------------
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Pete;
The "heavy hammer" approach would be to flare the Alum. tube and install an
AN816 fitting to end up with a 1/4" pipe thread fitting which would then
take a 1/4" female pipe thread to 1/4" nylaflow fitting (not sure of a part
# but they are out there). Heavier, bulkier and more expensive than it needs
to be.
As others have said, a 3" piece of soft rubber tubing and a few bits of
locking wire will do the job equally as well.
Jim Oke
RV-6A, RV-3
Winnipeg, MB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Subject: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have people
> made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are there
> special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the ACS
> catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the
first
> few inches.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
>
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| Subject: | Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
I am at the same point here, installing a heated Pitot and great ideas
everyone. So I flared the plastic tubing and hooked it directly to the port
on the heated Pitot and let the Pitot hang on the plastic tubing while it
sat hot for an hour or so. For me it got a little to hot, did not melt the
plastic or anything and did not slip off even with some pulling and tugging.
For me I think that I am going to run a few inches of aluminum before going
to the plastic.
Thank you everyone!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete Howell
Subject: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Hello,
I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have people
made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are there
special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the ACS
catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the first
few inches.
Thanks,
Pete
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| Subject: | Re: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Charlie,
Though I don't remember just whom it was, someone used this location and
reported (posted on the List) positive results. Based on his report I looked
into this as an alternate location.
I am told that the distance between the two Dynon units is not an issue. As
you say the nearest steel assembly is the elevator control horn section
which is just short of 20 inches away.from the Dynon unit.
I doubt that magnetic proximity problems will be an issue, I am however
prepared to deal with it if it does become an issue with this location.
I hope to have the wiring complete soon and with luck the wings will see
lift this year. Of course I have said the same for the last two years so I
guess time will tell. {[:-)!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Kuss Available!" <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Available!
>
> Jim,
> Do you think it wise to install the compass modules that far aft? They
will be fairly close to the steel elevator horn weldments. Since these
weldments move during flight, this could cause rather erratic errors.
> Charlie Kuss
>
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares
<pictures@matronics.com>
> >
> >
> >A new Email List Photo Share is available:
> >
> > Poster: Jim Jewell <jjewell@telus.net>
> >
> >
> > Subject: Dynon Compass Module
> >
> >
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/jjewell@telus.net.02.11.2004/index.html
> >
> >
> > o Main Photo Share Index
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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> >
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> > 2) Your Full Name:
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> > 6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
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| Subject: | Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
It's gotta be a joke! How does a current military jet become available to
surplus?
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Soon
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Greatest EBAY Item Ever.
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
>
> Funny, no one bid on it when it first listed at $850K, now they've upped
> it to just over a Million.
>
> BTW, the correct link is:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3077361636
>
> Don't know why but the original lost an Equal sign.
> Would be way cool to have, that's for sure.
>
> Nick
> Do Not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wier, Daniel C.
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Greatest EBAY Item Ever.
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wier, Daniel C."
> <daniel@thegreatwhite.net>
>
> I know this is off Topic, but I figured you all would want to see this
> if you have not.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3077361636
>
> Daniel Wier
> RV-7
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | need old RV-ators |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Help! For production of the next edition 24 Years of the RV-ator book, I
am in need of several copies of RV-ators from 2001 - 2003. Van is out. I'm
missing some issues, and others are needed to capture photos from back-back
pages. Here are the needed issues.
2001 - 1 copy of 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th
2002 - 1 copy of 3rd
2003 - 2 copies of 1st & 3rd, 1 copy of 2nd.
I'll pay cash or trade (for the upcoming 24 year book, or whatever) for
reasonable condition copies of the above issues.
Please write back if you can spare this good information for a couple of
months.
Thanks,
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
800 780-4115
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| Subject: | Re: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
The shelf below the vertical stab will work just fine; install the
magnetometer on the forward end of the shelf. I suggest you wrap the mag
in a plastic bag in case it ever got wet.
That is where my Dynon mag is located and it is very accurate. I used a
handheld compass to check for fluctuations in that area and found none.
Sam Buchanan
=============================
Jim Jewell wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> Though I don't remember just whom it was, someone used this location and
> reported (posted on the List) positive results. Based on his report I looked
> into this as an alternate location.
> I am told that the distance between the two Dynon units is not an issue. As
> you say the nearest steel assembly is the elevator control horn section
> which is just short of 20 inches away.from the Dynon unit.
> I doubt that magnetic proximity problems will be an issue, I am however
> prepared to deal with it if it does become an issue with this location.
>
> I hope to have the wiring complete soon and with luck the wings will see
> lift this year. Of course I have said the same for the last two years so I
> guess time will tell. {[:-)!
>
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlie Kuss Available!" <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: [ Jim Jewell ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
>
> Available!
>
>>Jim,
>> Do you think it wise to install the compass modules that far aft? They
>
> will be fairly close to the steel elevator horn weldments. Since these
> weldments move during flight, this could cause rather erratic errors.
>
>>Charlie Kuss
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| Subject: | Re: !New! CS props for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
All,
I don't know why anyone would be upset about the RPM restriction - I
have it and it's a NON issue. I've never found it to be an impediment to
setting the power. On the other hand the availability of a new prop is
certainly a good thing, since competition benefits us all.
Dave
LeastDrag93066@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 02/12/2004 6:27:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>khorton01@rogers.com writes:
>I was just trying to make sure that other readers didn't
>take your statement at face value, as it gave the wrong impression
>about prop-engine compatibility.
>
>Yes, I've got a Hartzell, but I only bought one because my
>prop-engine combination doesn't have any rpm restrictions. If I had
>an O-360-A series, I would certainly be looking at other props like
>this MT.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Greatest EBAY Item Ever. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kai Schumann <kai92117@yahoo.com>
Go back to the link and look closely at the catagory
it was listed under - Consumer
electronics-------->antennas.
My guess it is a false link made to look like an ebay
listing.
--- Paul Besing <azpilot@extremezone.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing"
> <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> It's gotta be a joke! How does a current military
> jet become available to
> surplus?
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold
> RV-10 Soon
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Greatest EBAY Item Ever.
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N"
> <rvator@nicknaf.com>
> >
> > Funny, no one bid on it when it first listed at
> $850K, now they've upped
> > it to just over a Million.
> >
> > BTW, the correct link is:
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3077361636
> >
> > Don't know why but the original lost an Equal
> sign.
> > Would be way cool to have, that's for sure.
> >
> > Nick
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Wier, Daniel C.
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV-List: Greatest EBAY Item Ever.
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wier, Daniel C."
> > <daniel@thegreatwhite.net>
> >
> > I know this is off Topic, but I figured you all
> would want to see this
> > if you have not.
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3077361636
> >
> > Daniel Wier
> > RV-7
> >
> >
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> any other
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>
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| Subject: | Aluminum to Poly tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
Just flare the poly as if it were aluminum tubing and use AN fittings.
John L. Danielson
307-266-2524
johnd@wlcwyo.com
WLC, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Oke
Subject: Re: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Pete;
The "heavy hammer" approach would be to flare the Alum. tube and install
an
AN816 fitting to end up with a 1/4" pipe thread fitting which would then
take a 1/4" female pipe thread to 1/4" nylaflow fitting (not sure of a
part
# but they are out there). Heavier, bulkier and more expensive than it
needs
to be.
As others have said, a 3" piece of soft rubber tubing and a few bits of
locking wire will do the job equally as well.
Jim Oke
RV-6A, RV-3
Winnipeg, MB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Subject: RV-List: Aluminum to Poly tube
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell"
<pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to run poly tubing from my pitot thru the wings. How have
people
> made the conversion from 1/4 Al tube to 1/4 poly in the wings? Are
there
> special fittings for this? They were not obvious in my pass thru the
ACS
> catalog. I am thinking heated Pitot, so I will start with Al for the
first
> few inches.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
>
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: need old RV-ators |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Andy
I have *one* copy of each requested....sorry Van's did not sent
duplicates ;-)
You can borrow them if you wish but I would like them back in the end.
Gert
Aircraft Technical Book Company wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
>
> Help! For production of the next edition 24 Years of the RV-ator book, I
> am in need of several copies of RV-ators from 2001 - 2003. Van is out. I'm
> missing some issues, and others are needed to capture photos from back-back
> pages. Here are the needed issues.
>
> 2001 - 1 copy of 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th
>
> 2002 - 1 copy of 3rd
>
> 2003 - 2 copies of 1st & 3rd, 1 copy of 2nd.
>
> I'll pay cash or trade (for the upcoming 24 year book, or whatever) for
> reasonable condition copies of the above issues.
>
> Please write back if you can spare this good information for a couple of
> months.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
> Builder's Bookstore
> 800 780-4115
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
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| Subject: | Re: Carbs, Turbos, and CFM... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>
>Anyone have any idea what the CFM rating on the marvel carbs are for an
>O320, and or what CFM a turbo would have to be able to flow on an O320?
>
>Anyone have knowledge of putting a turbo on an O320 out there?
>
>-Bill VonDane
Well, you can probably just start with the engine displacement and
desired rpm and go from there. So, if you have an O-320, it'll use
about 320 cubic inches ever two revolutions. So, at 2700 rpm, you
need about 320 * 2700/2 = 432,000 cubic inches per minute, or 250
cubic feet per minute, at one atmosphere pressure.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Transponder Checks |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rvsearey@aol.com
I was talking to the FAA today about changing my operating limitations and
the subject came up about who is doing my transponder checks. I told them the
name of the repair station/avionics shop and he said that they were not
authorized to do the checks and that any avionics shop would have to make an
application to the FAA for authorization and get approval to work on each specific
experimental aircraft by N number. (not just a general type) I asked him how all
the experimentals are flying around with transponders and he didn't have an
answer. I did contact the EAA and they are working on an answer. Did this FAA
guy just give me a bunch of bull or what? Does anybody have the real skinny?
Dan Decker
RV-4
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| Subject: | Re: Carbs, Turbos, and CFM... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
They put turbos on Twin Commanches with 160hp 320's. they were turbo-
normalized, not turbo-charged, they were also fuel injected, which I would
think would be a big plus for any turbo'd airplane. My guess is it would
take the same carb as the non-turbo model. It might need some bigger jets
for cooling, but the CFM should be the same as at Sea Level without the
turbo. There are some turbo 182's with carbs, but I've never flown one.
These systems work great, but one decent, without rolling back the turbos
first can ruin an engine. Totally unforgiving of pilot error.
I bet an RV-9 with the longer span (than a 4/6/7/8) and a turbo would be a
FAAAAASSSSSSTTTTT airplane at FL180.
Kevin, can "cipher" a rough guess of what a RV-9 (or a 4/6/7/8 for that
matter) would do at FL180 with 120hp (75% of 160) avialable
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Hi Guys,
Just a quick note about something that I've seen in the past month or two
that is a little confusing. I've had no less than at least 6 people ask me
for some AWG10 wire to use in their wings. Seems someone "out there" has
recommened AWG10 or AWG12 for running to the landing lights.
To anyone who is currently wiring your plane, don't fall into the trap that
some people do.....that being "if some is perfect, more must be better" -
with wire sizes, this is just a huge waste of money, weight, resources,
etc.. If the recommened wire is AWG16 or AWG18, there is NO reason to use
an AWG10.
Just a quick FYI, an AWG10 wire running the approximate length of a RVxx
wing, will carry something in the area of 800+ Watts. Who has a landing
light requiring that much power?!?! Heck, an AWG16 wire should carry well
over 180 Watts in that length.
Here's the simple breakdown before adding in resistance per 1K.
AWG10 - 70amps current carrying capacity
AWG12 - 50amps
AWG14 - 40amps
So, if you are one of those people running those huge AWG10 wires to your
wingtips, ask yourselves why?!? Two big reasons NOT to are:
1). Cost--AWG16-18 averages around $.17/ft & AWG10 is around $.50/ft (300%
higher).
2). Weight--AWG16-18 averages .005 lbs/ft, where AWG10 = .03lbs/ft.
Meaning, for an average set of wings at 2 wires x 18' = 36' x 2 wings = 72'
of wire. At AWG16 or 18 the weight would only be about 8oz's total. AWG10
would be over 2 POUNDS!!
Anyway, sorry about the rant...I just thought it might be a good idea to
bring this to the surface. Somehow, somewhere, there is a movement to put
fat wires into the wings, and I don't know why. If you are one of those
people, please enlighten me and the rest of us!
FYI, I do have AWG12 on up, and will stock some AWG10 in the future, but in
all reality, there isn't much need for it.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis
http://www.steinair.com
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder Checks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Rvsearey@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rvsearey@aol.com
>
> I was talking to the FAA today about changing my operating limitations and
> the subject came up about who is doing my transponder checks. I told them the
> name of the repair station/avionics shop and he said that they were not
> authorized to do the checks and that any avionics shop would have to make an
> application to the FAA for authorization and get approval to work on each specific
> experimental aircraft by N number. (not just a general type) I asked him how
all
> the experimentals are flying around with transponders and he didn't have an
> answer. I did contact the EAA and they are working on an answer. Did this FAA
> guy just give me a bunch of bull or what? Does anybody have the real skinny?
>
> Dan Decker
> RV-4
Keep us posted... Phil
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: need old RV-ators |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim/Kathy" <mac39@e-z.net>
Andy-
I have each of the the 2001 issues you need. Would be happy to trade for a
copy of the 24 year book.
Contact me at mac39@e.z.net to let me know how to mail them to you.
Jim McNamara
RV-8, wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Subject: RV-List: need old RV-ators
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company"
<winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
>
> Help! For production of the next edition 24 Years of the RV-ator book, I
> am in need of several copies of RV-ators from 2001 - 2003. Van is out.
I'm
> missing some issues, and others are needed to capture photos from
back-back
> pages. Here are the needed issues.
>
> 2001 - 1 copy of 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th
>
> 2002 - 1 copy of 3rd
>
> 2003 - 2 copies of 1st & 3rd, 1 copy of 2nd.
>
> I'll pay cash or trade (for the upcoming 24 year book, or whatever) for
> reasonable condition copies of the above issues.
>
> Please write back if you can spare this good information for a couple of
> months.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
> Builder's Bookstore
> 800 780-4115
>
>
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| Subject: | MT Propeller weights |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Hi All,
I just weighed a few of the MT Propellers.
I just used a balance beam bathroom scale. The measured weights should be
fairly accurate.
Each propeller is a 72" diameter propeller with complete spinner assembly
installed; ready to mount on an RV with a 1 1/2" cowl spacing and a Lycoming 360
engine.
The 2 blade MTV-9-B/183-50 weighed 43 1/4 pounds.
The 3 blade MTV-12-B/183-59d weighed 46 pounds.
The aluminum blade 2 blade MTV-15-B/183-402 weighed 57 pounds.
I don't know the 2 blade Hartzell propeller weight. Unfortunately, they
normally give their propeller weight without a spinner and bulkheads.
Jim Ayers
I may be sending this a second time. My AOL was acting up again, and not
letting me send messages (maybe).
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| Subject: | Re: static pressure line drain |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 2/12/2004 6:38:57 AM Pacific Standard Time,
DWENSING@aol.com writes:
What type of device is usually used for draining moisture from the static
pressure line
before it gets to the instruments? Or, is the line periodically undone at the
low point to allow any accumulated moisture to drain?
The proper way is to make the low point the ports and all lines go uphill
from there. That's the way I did it..
GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 675 hrs)
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