Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 01:52 AM - Re: RV: ELT Required?? (Cy Galley)
2. 03:06 AM - Re: SNF Hotel Question (Dick Jordan)
3. 03:06 AM - Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesfor (Bob U.)
4. 03:51 AM - Re: Rotary, David Taylor responses. long (Dana Overall)
5. 05:38 AM - Re: SNF Hotel Question (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
6. 05:58 AM - Re: Best Florda place to stay: was SNF Hotel Question (RV8ter@aol.com)
7. 06:02 AM - Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesfor once? (Tom Gummo)
8. 06:51 AM - Lycoming 360 propeller flight test data (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
9. 07:16 AM - Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesforonce? (Charlie & Tupper England)
10. 07:58 AM - searching for propeller (Charlie & Tupper England)
11. 08:04 AM - ALTIMETER (Dane Sheahen)
12. 08:36 AM - Re: testing capacitive sending units (Evan and Megan Johnson)
13. 08:43 AM - Fuel Flow Systems (Chuck Weyant)
14. 08:57 AM - Re: Rotary, David Taylor responses. long (Sam Buchanan)
15. 09:15 AM - Re: SNF Hotel Question (Lenleg@aol.com)
16. 09:18 AM - Re: Rotaries and airplanes (jgburns)
17. 09:28 AM - Re: engine fuel burn experience --rotary vs lycomiing (jamesbaldwin@attglobal.net)
18. 10:05 AM - Re: ALTIMETER (Trampas)
19. 10:37 AM - Re: ALTIMETER (Kevin Horton)
20. 11:04 AM - Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesfor once? (jgburns)
21. 12:46 PM - Re: testing capacitive sending units (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
22. 12:57 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Dane Sheahen)
23. 01:12 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Harvey Sigmon)
24. 01:17 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Tom Gummo)
25. 01:37 PM - Re: SNF Hotel Question (David Burton)
26. 01:39 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Kevin Horton)
27. 02:19 PM - Re: SNF Hotel Question (Ken Balch)
28. 02:46 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Lisa Compton)
29. 04:26 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (linn walters)
30. 04:40 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
31. 04:59 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
32. 05:04 PM - interesting, seems appropo to this list (Wheeler North)
33. 05:31 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Tom Gummo)
34. 05:53 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Gary Zilik)
35. 05:56 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Systems (Gary Zilik)
36. 07:33 PM - Re: ALTIMETER (Hal Rozema)
37. 08:04 PM - Re: RV: ELT Required?? (RV6 Flyer)
38. 08:09 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Systems (Charlie & Tupper England)
39. 11:00 PM - Re: dimpled backwards (j1j2h3@juno.com)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: RV: ELT Required?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
It might be written into your Operating limitations that you have to have an
ELT even during testing. This piece of paper takes precedence over the
FARs. Further the inspector might want to see the install before he signs
it off as you don't want to pay him for a return trip.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV: ELT Required??
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> You probably could make a case that way but........
>
> Mike R.
>
>
> >From: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: RV: ELT Required??
> >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:33:21 -0600
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
> >
> >Item #4 below is very interesting. Mike, does this mean that the ELT
would
> >not have to be installed in a two place aircraft while in Phase 1 of it's
> >flight testing? Just a thought.
> >
> >Marty in Brentwood, TN
> >
> >
> >Time: 10:27:00 AM PST US
> >From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: ELT Required??
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> >
> >Here is the list and I believe that #1 for turbojets has been
rescinded.
> >
> >e) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, a person may --
> >(1) Ferry a newly acquired airplane from the place where possession of it
> >was taken to a place where the emergency locator transmitter is to be
> >installed; and
> >(2) Ferry an airplane with an inoperative emergency locator transmitter
> >from
> >a place where repairs or replacements cannot be made to a place where
they
> >can be made.
> >No person other than required crewmembers may be carried aboard an
airplane
> >being ferried under paragraph (e) of this section.
> >(f) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to -
> >(1) Turbojet-powered aircraft;
> >(2) Aircraft while engaged in scheduled flights by scheduled air
carriers;
> >(3) Aircraft while engaged in training operations conducted entirely
within
> >a 50-nautical mile radius of the airport from which such local flight
> >operations began;
> >(4) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to design and
> >testing;
> >(5) New aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to their
> >manufacture, preparation, and delivery;
> >(6) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to the aerial
> >application of chemicals and other substances for agricultural purposes;
> >(7) Aircraft certificated by the Administrator for research and
development
> >purposes;
> >(8) Aircraft while used for showing compliance with regulations, crew
> >training, exhibition, air racing, or market surveys;
> >(9) Aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person; and
> >(10) An aircraft during any period for which the transmitter has been
> >temporarily removed for inspection, repair, modification, or replacement,
> >subject to the following:
> >(i) No person may operate the aircraft unless the aircraft records
contain
> >an entry which includes the date of initial removal, the make, model,
> >serial
> >number, and reason for removing the transmitter, and a placard located in
> >view of the pilot to show "ELT not installed."
> >(ii) No person may operate the aircraft more than 90 days after the ELT
is
> >initially removed from the aircraft.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: ELT Required??
> >
> >
>
> Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free!
>
>
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: SNF Hotel Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dick Jordan" <mkejrj@erols.com>
MICKEY,
TRY THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS IN BRANDON .IT IS ABOUT TWENTY MINUTES CLOSER
TO LAKELAND,THE AAA RATE IS AROUND EIGHTY BUCKS AND A BUNCH OF EAA GUYS STAY
THERE.
DICK JORDAN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Subject: RV-List: SNF Hotel Question
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
> Hi,
>
> For those of you that have been to Sun 'n Fun, and
> know the area, I've got two hotel choices - one
> in Lakeland for about 150 USD/night, and one in
> Tampa for about 70 USD/night. Is it worth the
> extra money to stay in Lakeland, or is driving
> to Tampa daily not too big of a deal? I'll
> be there for about 7 days.
>
> Thanks for any advice!
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
>
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesfor |
once?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>
Bill Dube wrote:
>
>
>
>>(a) General. No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry --
>>
>>(1) At cabin pressure altitudes above 12,500 feet (MSL) up to and
>>including 14,000 feet (MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is
>>provided with and uses supplemental oxygen for that part of the flight
>>at those altitudes that is of more than 30 minutes duration;
>>
>>(2) At cabin pressure altitudes above 14,000 feet (MSL) unless the
>>required minimum flight crew is provided with and uses supplemental
>>oxygen during the entire flight time at those altitudes; and
>>
>>
>
> Are you suggesting that the folks posting to this thread are
>showing the symptoms of anoxia? :-)
>
Nah.
More like too much "whine", not lack of oxygen.
Ol' wine maker Bob :-)
Do NOT archive
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Rotary, David Taylor responses. long |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
David, it appears you have really done your homework over a very short
period of time. Just a little history on my engine. The second generation
engine, 89-91 is the optimal engine. Will the others work, yes. In
addition, the automatic version is even better as you get the auto flywheel
and counterbalance. My $650 delivered 13B had 135K running when removed. I
could have found one cheaper but this one was just what I was looking for.
Upon examination, all apex seals and side seals were within factory specs,
height and width. I am, of course replacing all with substantially improved
seals (see Tracy's site for specifics). After you get all the "junk"
removed from the engine, it is only 12.5x12.5x12.5 without the water pump
housing. Remove the through bolts and you have two rotors, two rotor
housings, on intermediate housing (middle) and two end housings and the
crank. That is the engine. One of my end housing faces had a oil seal
overlap shelf at what is referred to as the football tip, just ever so
slightly (took it to a machine shop client, .004) out of spec. This rotor
housing exhaust port appeared slightly blacker than the other one. It was
either using a little oil or running rich due to the compression "stroke"
forcing air between the face and side seals. With that said, it was sold as
a non oil burning running engine as in non smoking so it couldn't have been
much. Two end housings exchanged for lapped housings at $75 per housing.
Hum, lets see you exchange a lyc jug for that:-) At 135K the main rotor
bearings are still dead center factor spec. Replace........why, I can't do
any better than factory spec.
I'll let Tracy, or Ed address the technical issues of your post. Suffice to
say, the engine appears to love cranking along at it's "cruise setting".
Look at a marine engine, it is either idle or, as Tracy termed it, "full war
power". I've owned, and still do own, Porsches. I hear so many people talk
about them developing oil leaks. Most of these people are your stop and go
daily drivers who just like to see that P word on the steering wheel. I, on
the other hand, take mine to road courses. My oldest son said he never
would have thought his dad would be sitting in the right seat of his triple
black Boxster telling him faster, faster as he was doing 121MPH 400' short
of the double 90s leading to the bridge at Road Atlanta. My next project is
probably going to be following Sam and the open wheel "The Stalker". Point
here, drive or fly them where they are designed to function at.
Now, to the roll your own. I've gone through so many airplanes in my time,
this RV is it. Just look at what I'm doing. Imron black (it'll melt on the
ramp, or as one lister told me the wings are going expand and pull all the
rivets out), glass as far as I can go inside (that can't be safe, I need to
use 60 year old instruments), 7" DVD screen on right side of panel (had to
take up some space left by all that glass stuff), tinted canopy (rules out
someone with reduced night vision from ever buying it), taildragger and now
"A rotary?"...........the list continues. Well, this is going to be my
baby. I don't have the equipment to fabricate a bunch of pieces and parts.
At first I dismissed the rotary due to that issue. However, you will notice
Tracy just replaced one acceptable muffler with another one. Takes that out
of the equation. Bending up my own exhaust. Use some PVC pipe to make a
model, buy some stainless and go a client who owns a muffler shop. That
taken out of the equation. Intake, this is going to an area where I need to
do more research. Won't be difficult, but optimize the intake and get some
free power. You can buy an acceptable aftermarket job though. Engine mount
for an RV. Those are custom made by a company 1.5 hours from my house.
Have Van's ship your undrilled gear legs and him, in addition to making a
wonderful mount, he hons and custom drills your gear legs. That's taken out
of the equation. Cooling. Even with the firewall forward kits, one has to
spend an awful lot of time custominzing the baffles for optimal cooling. In
my case, there are so many people out there with rotaries (more than you
could ever imagine) that have already been down this road. I'm figuring it
won't take me any longer to address than I would installing baffles. I'm
sure I'll have to fabricate several brackets for throttle, lines and such
but those won't be a big deal at all in the long run. I really think the
roll your own issue is somewhat overstated.
Someone asked what a "real person" would have in a rotary install. I've
broke it down so many different ways and $9500 is the figure I come up with.
That is absolutely everything firewall forward including the prop. Like I
said in a previous post, money was not the determining factor. It was a
factor but merely part of the equation. They are not for everyone and I'm
sure many people are going to snicker and tell their friends my RV is a
death trap because it has a auto conversion. Take a Lyc..........can you
say horizontally opposed 4........VW 2180 or type 4? My decision to install
a rotary has put a smile on my face and I know everytime I open the hangar I
will be happy with this decision.
Just an opinion only, but the rotary certainly has some redeeming qualities
in regards to the RV install. If you are thinking about taking an alternate
engine route, you may want to spend a little time and check them out.
Sorry, gang............this time of year all I do is look at tax
returns................sometimes is nice to be able to actually talk about
something other than deferred comp., child tax credit, capital gains and
"can my horse be classified as a race horse".
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit
13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg
do not archive
Say good-bye to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free trial
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: SNF Hotel Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
Mickey, driving to Tampa area is no big deal. We stay at Busch Gardens area
or Brandon for about $80. Have fun
Doug Preston
RV8
N127EK
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Best Florda place to stay: was SNF Hotel Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
A safer (to me) and an easy option is to base out of Melbourne Florida (there
are like 3 to 5 other small airports around there too but I prefer MLB for
transient stays). Great place to fly to and from SNF because you always have the
sun at your BACK which is important when you are trying to merge with the
Lake Parker *Traffic Pattern* or avoid overtaking the departing slower traffic
also departing in mass at the end of each day. Great GA area on the North side.
Ramp is free if you buy some gas any time you are there. We just told 'em
one little fill up and that was more than enough for the 3 days we were there.
Lot's of RV'rs and experimental in general hangar there too so if you have an
unlikely problem you'll get a lot of help from the local retiree RV crowd.
Now the REALLY great news. Brevard County has a LOT of great casual
restaraunts - especially Barbecue, fresh sea food and mex tex. Something for
everyone. It also has a LOT of different hotels and motels to choose from and
locations from right there at the airport area to up and down the beaches. If
you
are a military retiree, Patrick AFB is just up the road 20 minutes. If you want
to take a break from flying, you can easily take a nice day fishing trip out
of Port Canaveral or tour Kennedy Space Center. All of that is in the same
county and no more than about a 45 minute drive at the most from each other.
Not a member of the chamber of commerce but lived and worked there for 12
years so I've got half a clue. :-)
lucky
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesfor |
once?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
> > Are you suggesting that the folks posting to this thread are
> >showing the symptoms of anoxia? :-)
> >
>
> Nah.
> More like too much "whine", not lack of oxygen.
>
>
> Ol' wine maker Bob :-)
Here I thought "anoxia" was a girl not eating problem, now I learn it has to
do with wine. :-)
This word has all the bases covered.
I just like to "breathe", "eat" and "drink" flying.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Lycoming 360 propeller flight test data |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Hi All,
I finally have the performance data available for the Hartzell 2 blade CS
propeller, and the MT aluminum 2 blade CS propeller.
Go to the "Lycoming 360 Propeller" page on www.lessdrag.com and scroll down.
I also have pictures of the vertical stabilizer fairings for Bob Archer's VS
COM antenna on my RV-3 and for the RV-4 VS.
Go to the "Products" page on www.lessdrag.com and scroll down.
Jim Ayers
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesforonce? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
David Taylor wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David Taylor" <rv7@cox.net>
>
> This thread has really intrigued me. First off I'd like to recognize how
>civil you guys are being. It's good to see people disagree tactfully. I've
>been on several lists that get really ugly so it makes me proud to be a part
>of this family.
>
> I've done quite a bit of web surfing based on this discussion just to see
>what comes up (self education). The following information is based on what
>I've seen on the web and is definitely not fact. Please keep this in mind.
>
> It appears, from my research, that the rotary engine is better as an
>aviation engine than a car engine. I have a friend at work that is really
>into cars and we got into this discusstion. He asked how many RX-7s I see
>driving around. Honestly I haven't seen many at all. Also he showed me an
>auto trader search of RX-7s 93 and greater near our area (31088). I was
>amazed that many of the cars on the first 2 pages had new engines
>installed.(Go to http://www.autotrader.com and search for used Mazda RX-7s
>200 miles from the 31088 area code).
>
> On the flip side, every single article I've read on aviation has praised
>the rotary engine. Tracy's RV-4 and Ed Anderson's RV-6 are both proof of how
>well it can work. I'm confident Dana will have the same results. I guess the
>question is: Is there anything that makes it more reliable as an aircraft
>engine as opposed to a car engine? I've read that the tube that lubricated
>that apex seal isn't needed due to the oil added to the fuel. Surely this
>isn't all there is to it.
>
> Also from what I've read it seems that turbocharging this engine seems to
>be a bad idea. Please keep in mind this is not my personal opinion. I've
>gathered this information from surfing the web and we all know that this
>information may or may not be accurate.
>
> Personally I am going with a Lycoming. It has nothing to do with the
>engine necessarily being any better but I know if I go to my local A&P or IA
>he will be able to help/advise me on this engine. I intend on being the one
>to maintain my aircraft and I have access to an IA who is very knowledgable
>of the Lycoming that I can learn from (yes I am still learning). That being
>said I would not discount putting a rotary in a future aircraft should I
>decide to build another. I think it's great that people who have the talent
>and the knowledge are experimenting with aviation. Remember that there was a
>first to break the sound barrier. Now it's an everyday occurrence (I know I
>live within 5miles of an Air Force Base :) ).
>
>
> -David Taylor
> Warner Robins, GA
> RV-6A Wings (prosealing
>the tanks yuch) N207DT reserved
>
Hi David,
I believe that you can find your answer about the '93+ engine issue by
prowling around the archives of the RX-7 newsgroups. The engine responds
very well to performance 'enhancements' & a high percentage of owners
seem to be modern incarnations of the guys who bought GTO's, Chevelle
SS396's etc. & proceeded to add monster carbs, cams, headers & such &
head straight for the drag strip for a weekend of abuse. The difference
with the '93's is that they are turbo'd & turbos will destroy ANY engine
if you overdo it. The advantage of the rotary, even in the auto
environment, is that it still gets you home after you break an apex seal
(equivalent to a piston ring) from detonation. With an overboosted
piston engine, you put a hole in a piston or two.
To get a proper perspective on the "93 RX-7's problems vs other cars,
look for another 'hot rod' model car that sees a lot of aftermarket mods.
Most of the early RX-7s disappeared into salvage yards because once city
driving had clogged the rotor seals with carbon, the owners couldn't
find mechanics who were brave enough to look inside the engine.
Charlie
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | searching for propeller |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
I'm in need of a cruise prop for a 160hp RV-4.
Is there anyone out there who's upgraded to metal or c/s who is willing
to part with their old prop?
If so, give me a call at 601-879-9596 or email
cengland@netdoor.com
& let me know what you've got.
Thanks,
Charlie
(Instant gratification: a worthy goal when searching for a prop.)
do not archive
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
checked it against what approach control had me at.
This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It is
accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb to
about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
Could something else be wrong ?
Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
Dane Sheahen
RV8a N838RV 150hrs
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: testing capacitive sending units |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
One possibility is the insulating washers....Are they white or black? There
was a period when they were punched out of a recycled black plastic and
those little guys actually carried a small current. The resistance through
them was very small but maybe enough to cause erratic readings. You should
be able to see a couple of them through the filler neck.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RV-List: testing capacitive sending units
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Is there a method of testing the capacitive sending units with the tanks
> on the plane?
>
> I was getting erratic readings on the right tank. The bnc was leaking.
>
> I repaired the leak by removing the tank, opening the access plate, and
> putting some more proseal on her.
>
> I also replaced the coax between the tank and the gage just in case I
> had a bad crimp on the bnc.
>
> The tank now reads full with only a few gallons in her. But it does not
> read "open" on the EI gage like it did before when the gage would act
> up.
>
> I am wondering if there is a problem with a wire in the tank. Or perhaps
> with new coax, which is a different higher grade than the cheap crap I
> had in there, it is giving the gage a different reading now and I might
> need to recalibrate all over again. Would be nice to be able to test the
> tank with different levels of fuel and rule out a tank problem.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> Do not archive yet
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Fuel Flow Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <cweyant@chuckdirect.com>
RV9A. Want to install a fuel flow system. Needs to be around $300 or so. Which
one? And where do I install the transducer? Not much room as far as I can see.
Seems the ones I've checked out want the transducer on the vaccum side of the
fuel pump. With the fuel pump on the inside of the firewall in the nine, and
the fuel line running down the center of the cockpit floor to the fuel selecter
valve, I don't see anywhere to install a transducer. How have others done
it? (No luck with the archives search.)
Chuck
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Rotary, David Taylor responses. long |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Dana Overall wrote:
<snip>
I've owned, and still do own, Porsches. I hear so many people talk
> about them developing oil leaks. Most of these people are your stop and go
> daily drivers who just like to see that P word on the steering wheel. I, on
> the other hand, take mine to road courses. My oldest son said he never
> would have thought his dad would be sitting in the right seat of his triple
> black Boxster telling him faster, faster as he was doing 121MPH 400' short
> of the double 90s leading to the bridge at Road Atlanta. My next project is
> probably going to be following Sam and the open wheel "The Stalker". Point
> here, drive or fly them where they are designed to function at.
<snip>
And here is my latest baby:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/stalkerv6
Compared to building an airplane, this is a very basic build. This
should be a great airport car!! =8
O
Sam Buchanan
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: SNF Hotel Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 2/21/2004 2:14:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mick-matronics@rv8.ch writes:
Hi,
For those of you that have been to Sun 'n Fun, and
know the area, I've got two hotel choices - one
in Lakeland for about 150 USD/night, and one in
Tampa for about 70 USD/night. Is it worth the
extra money to stay in Lakeland, or is driving
to Tampa daily not too big of a deal? I'll
be there for about 7 days.
Thanks for any advice!
--
Mickey Coggins
Mickey:
I lived in the area for about 15 years ... Tampa is close enough to stay ..
short drive but the problem will be the long lines of car traffic trying to get
onto the SNF site. I have waited for hours in those lines before coming off
the interstate.
Good luck !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
208 hrs
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Rotaries and airplanes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "jgburns" <jgburns@comcast.net>
I almost removed the rotary from consideration because of the resale value argument.
When I calculated my probable cost over fifteen years of Lycoming ownership
verses a new Renesis rotary, I put it back into consideration.
Assumptions for my analysis:
100 hours/year average flight time over fifteen years (our family cars average
10 years)
Lycoming 200 HP @ factory redline (2700 RPM)
Van's new: $33,500 + $4800 (FWF kit) + $700 (misc. estimate) $39,000
Top overhaul at 1000 hours (probable somewhere between new and TBO) $8,000 (there's
usually more than the cost of jugs)
Lycoming Rough Order of Magnitude (ROM) cost: $47,000 (not including prop)
Rotary 220 HP NA @ 90% factory redline (rotors spinning at 2565 RPM, prop at 2700
RPM):
New Renesis short block with aircraft modifications: $6,500
PSRU, fuel/ignition controller, and engine mount (delta): $4,500
Oil cooler (Mazda Factory Race Engine Oil Cooler - Racing Beat ): $1,000
Exhaust (professional fab): $1,000
Accessories, intake/fuel system, radiator $1,500
Misc (estimate): $1000
Overhaul at 1000 hours, including PSRU: $3500
ROM: $19,000 (not including prop)
$28,000 difference
Now, add the cost of fuel savings (I estimate $5,000 over 1500 hours, half the
fill-ups with 100LL)
That's a $33,000 total cost of ownership difference (new to new comparison). Note:
I increased several of the rotary numbers to be conservative.
For the last 18 months, I struggled with all the issues I've seen on this list:
[financial savings] verses [resale, propeller limitations (no hydraulic on the
rotary), all the work and decisions, concern that I'll screw up a sub-system
...]
I wish a (proven) FWF package was available. It would probably decrease the total
difference to $28,000, but what a time savings.
The price difference kept my comparative analysis going. While comparing the Superior
experimental aircraft engine to the rotary, a funny thing happened - I
fell in LOVE with Renesis rotary engine. I have a burning desire to put the Renesis
in my 7A, so now I'm working on mitigating risk (screw-ups) by surrounding
myself with other builders who have chosen the same path. I now look forward
to the extra work. I especially look forward to the camaraderie of other alternative
engine aircraft builders and developing life-long friendships as a result
of this new found passion.
Like Tracy said a few days ago, 'It's not for everyone. If you don't have a burning
desire, don't do it.'
Caution to inquiring minds: careful study of the rotary powered option for your
RV may lead to addiction.
I hope to see builders interested in rotary powered flight at Sun 'n Fun for the informal discussions - see: http://www.rotaryaviation.com/events.html
John Burns
7A-QB
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: engine fuel burn experience --rotary vs lycomiing |
--> RV-List message posted by: jamesbaldwin@attglobal.net
Walter -
I just thought I would add a comment on your observations -- auto fuel
is generally higher in specific weight (lbs/gallon) than avgas. I have
personally measured as much as a 10% difference in weights per volume.
Since engines burn" weight" and not "volume", there may be some
difference here as well. If one of you was burning avgas and the other
auto fuel, the apples to apples comparison was clouded somewhat. A back
to back test with as many variables being the same is the only positive
way this question can be answered but observations such as yours
certainly narrow the debate. JBB
WALTER KERR wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
>
>
>Subject: engine fuel burn experience --rotary vs lycomiing
>
>
> I agree with Tedd that the dyno BSFC of a lycoming will beat a rotary unless
it is one of the newer RX8 engines.
>
>Tracy in "dirty bird" and I have flown at various altitudes from 4500 to 10500
and at varying cruise speeds. My 6A with a 160 lycoming, Sam James cowl and
plenum, Sensenich 80 inch metal prop, etc , etc was one of the cleaner 6A's IMHO.
Having flown 666nm from FL37 to Memphis on numerous occasions, you could
do it in 4:10 and have about 45 minutes fuel reserve it there was only light crosswinds.
>
>Tracy and I did not do block to block testing but instead relied on our Grand
Rapids EIS for rate. At my normal cruise at about 190 mph TAS, the lycoming would
burn about 7% less fuel than the rotary. When we would thottle back to 170
mph, the fuel burns were the same. Was it more drag on the 4? The fact that
the fuel came together at lower speed might indicate that. Was it the fact that
the rotary will run smoothly at leaner fuel to air ratios at the lower power
and therefore make better bsfc. Take your pick cause we don't have enough info
to decide!! The rotary was burning auto fuel which is normally more difference
in cost than the bsfc between the two engines. Do not believe that the fuel
burn is a major deciding issue as much as are you willing to roll your own
until Tracy or ?? someone offers a fwf package at a reasonable price. As stated
earlier, there is no question that you can roll your own cheaper than you can
do a rebuilt lycoming.
>
>Bernie Kerr, 6A sold, 9A rotary close ( I should be in the hangar working instead
of writing this note, but can't keep quiet in a good discussion)
>
>
>
>
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
Dane,
The altimeters work by measuring the air pressure. Most a calibrated to
represent a certain altitude by assuming a certain air temperature for that
altitude. Therefore if the air temperature at the altitude your at is colder
than the assumed calibrated altitude, you altimeter will read lower than you
really are. The inverse is true for hot air temperatures.
Now high pressure front moves in then your altimeter will read lower than
you really are, however if a low pressure front moves in you will read
higher than you really are.
Regards,
Trampas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dane Sheahen
Subject: RV-List: ALTIMETER
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
checked it against what approach control had me at.
This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It is
accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb to
about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
Could something else be wrong ?
Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
Dane Sheahen
RV8a N838RV 150hrs
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
>My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
>first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
>other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
>checked it against what approach control had me at.
>This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It is
>accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb to
>about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
>
>Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
>Could something else be wrong ?
>Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
>Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
>
>Dane Sheahen
>RV8a N838RV 150hrs
What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
the "truth data"?
Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
the temperature differs from standard temperature.
<http://williams.best.vwh.net/smxgigpdf/smxgig2000.pdf>
<http://www2.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap7/aim0702.html> - scroll down to
"7-2-3. Altimeter Errors"
<http://www.atlasaviation.com/feature%20articals/featured-article-2004/lies_your_barometric_altimeter_t.htm>
<http://www.bluecoat.org/reports/Long_98_Cold.pdf>
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: engines, engines, engines - wonderful to have choicesfor |
once?
--> RV-List message posted by: "jgburns" <jgburns@comcast.net>
I guess Bob might be saying don't forget your oxygen. I live in the beautiful
Rocky Mountains, so I usually take it with me. ... nothing unusual about those
altitudes out here.
John Burns
7A-QB/Rotary
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | testing capacitive sending units |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
I got the white ones.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Evan and Megan
Johnson
Subject: Re: RV-List: testing capacitive sending units
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
<evmeg@snowcrest.net>
One possibility is the insulating washers....Are they white or black?
There
was a period when they were punched out of a recycled black plastic and
those little guys actually carried a small current. The resistance
through
them was very small but maybe enough to cause erratic readings. You
should
be able to see a couple of them through the filler neck.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RV-List: testing capacitive sending units
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Is there a method of testing the capacitive sending units with the
tanks
> on the plane?
>
> I was getting erratic readings on the right tank. The bnc was leaking.
>
> I repaired the leak by removing the tank, opening the access plate,
and
> putting some more proseal on her.
>
> I also replaced the coax between the tank and the gage just in case I
> had a bad crimp on the bnc.
>
> The tank now reads full with only a few gallons in her. But it does
not
> read "open" on the EI gage like it did before when the gage would act
> up.
>
> I am wondering if there is a problem with a wire in the tank. Or
perhaps
> with new coax, which is a different higher grade than the cheap crap I
> had in there, it is giving the gage a different reading now and I
might
> need to recalibrate all over again. Would be nice to be able to test
the
> tank with different levels of fuel and rule out a tank problem.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> Do not archive yet
>
>
==
==
==
==
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
Kevin & RV group
My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the temperature
does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further off
the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
Can you Fix them?
Dane Sheahen
RV8a 150hrs
What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
the "truth data"?
Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
the temperature differs from standard temperature.
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
>My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
>first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
>other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
>checked it against what approach control had me at.
>This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It is
>accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb
to
>about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
>
>Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
>Could something else be wrong ?
>Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
>Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
>
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <sighsrv@earthlink.net>
Dana: Just an idea, I experienced a similar situation and the cause was a
static leak behind the instrument panel. The altimeter and airspeed read in
error. Airspeed read high about 12 MPH, Altimeter read high. I think a
static check will find the problem
Harvey Sigmon RV-6A N602RV Flying
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: ALTIMETER
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
> Kevin & RV group
>
> My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
> reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the
temperature
> does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further
off
> the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
>
> Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
> Can you Fix them?
>
> Dane Sheahen
> RV8a 150hrs
>
>
> What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
> against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
> the "truth data"?
>
> Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
> simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
> barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
> colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
> ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
> in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
> altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
> 1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
> ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
> the temperature differs from standard temperature.
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
> >
> >My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
> >first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
> >other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
> >checked it against what approach control had me at.
> >This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It
is
> >accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb
> to
> >about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
> >
> >Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
> >Could something else be wrong ?
> >Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
> >Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
> >
>
>
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
anything change in your pitot static air system?
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: ALTIMETER
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
> Kevin & RV group
>
> My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
> reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the
temperature
> does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further
off
> the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
>
> Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
> Can you Fix them?
>
> Dane Sheahen
> RV8a 150hrs
>
>
> What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
> against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
> the "truth data"?
>
> Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
> simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
> barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
> colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
> ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
> in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
> altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
> 1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
> ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
> the temperature differs from standard temperature.
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
> >
> >My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
> >first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
> >other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
> >checked it against what approach control had me at.
> >This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It
is
> >accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb
> to
> >about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
> >
> >Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
> >Could something else be wrong ?
> >Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
> >Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
> >
>
>
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: SNF Hotel Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
the problem will be the long lines of car traffic trying to get
> onto the SNF site. I have waited for hours in those lines before coming
off
> the interstate.
The secret is to get there early. If you go early you will have no traffic
and get to park right next to the enterence. We keep bottled water and food
in a cooler in the trunk.
I've stayed at a nice place quite a distance from the show, and also close
by. In my opinion closer is better! I got tired of the drive each day and
did not want to stay for the night airshow (which is great) because of the
long late drive afterwards.
Message 26
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
There is a way to adjust them for errors in the altimeter setting,
but that would have the same effect at all altitudes. I don't think
there is any way to fix the problem you seem to be having.
It would be interesting to swap altimeters with one of the other
aircraft for one another formation flight. I'd want to absolutely
confirm you had a bad altimeter before spending the cash for another
one.
Are you absolutely certain that the error varies with altitude rather
than with speed? Some folks have had static source position error
problems, in which case the altimeter could be dead nuts accurate
when you were stopped on the ground, but then it would have an error
as soon as you were flying. Have you made any changes in the static
ports from the last time you had an apparently accurate altimeter?
E.g. changed to a flush mounted static port? Could you have a static
system leak?
Kevin Horton
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
>Kevin & RV group
>
>My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
>reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the temperature
>does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further off
>the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
>
>Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
>Can you Fix them?
>
>Dane Sheahen
>RV8a 150hrs
>
>
> What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
>against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
>the "truth data"?
>
>Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
>simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
>barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
>colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
>ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
>in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
>altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
>1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
>ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
>the temperature differs from standard temperature.
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>>
>>My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
>>first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
>>other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
>>checked it against what approach control had me at.
>>This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It is
>>accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb
>to
>>about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
>>
>>Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
>>Could something else be wrong ?
>>Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
> >Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
>>
>
Message 27
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: SNF Hotel Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ken Balch <kbalch@cfl.rr.com>
David Burton wrote:
>the problem will be the long lines of car traffic trying to get onto the SNF site.
I have waited for hours in those lines before coming off the interstate.
>
>
We've stayed in Brandon for the past five years or so and have never run
into serious traffic getting to Lakeland in the mornings. The 'secret'
is to leave early. Really early. If you not bitching about how early
it is, you didn't get up early enough... :-) It's actually not that
bad. We leave the hotel around 0600, get some coffee and pull into the
SnF parking lot before 0700. We've yet to be more than half a dozen
rows back from the main entrance.
Regards,
Ken Balch
RV-8 N118KB
Message 28
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Lisa Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <sighsrv@earthlink.net>
>
> Dana: Just an idea, I experienced a similar situation and the cause was a
> static leak behind the instrument panel.
Had the same problem in my -3 last year. My clue that I had a leak was when
I noticed the vsi jump when I opened a cockpit air vent. Sure enough, I had
a loose fitting behind the panel.
Randy Compton
RV-3 N148CW
Gulf Breeze, FL
Message 29
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
My first suggestion is to check the altimeter yourself .... go to
http://www.aa.washington.edu/courses/aa441/alt_cal.pdf or
http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/instcal/instcal.htm and see who's
really off. It could just be where your static port is located and
functioning.
Linn
Dane Sheahen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
>Kevin & RV group
>
>My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
>reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the temperature
>does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further off
>the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
>
>Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
>Can you Fix them?
>
>Dane Sheahen
>RV8a 150hrs
>
>
> What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
>against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
>the "truth data"?
>
>Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
>simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
>barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
>colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
>ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
>in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
>altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
>1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
>ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
>the temperature differs from standard temperature.
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>>
>>My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
>>first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
>>other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
>>checked it against what approach control had me at.
>>This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It is
>>accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb to
about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
>>Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
>>Could something else be wrong ?
>>Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
>>Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
>>
>>
>
>
>
Message 30
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Dave,
Be sure there's no water in the static system.
Dan RV-7A to fly this Spring
In a message dated 2/21/04 3:58:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dane@mutualace.com writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
> Kevin &RV group
>
> My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
> reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the temperature
> does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further off
> the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
>
> Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
> Can you Fix them?
>
> Dane Sheahen
> RV8a 150hrs
>
>
Message 31
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Dane,
You can do the static test yourself. Put a piece of electrical tape over one
static port and use a 5 or 10 ml syringe with the needle cut to about 1/8
inch, and a tiny o-ring to seal it on the other port. Slowly draw a 1000 ft
vacuum and hold it. It should not leak down more than 100 ft in a minute. You
may be able to get the syringe at a drugstore, or from a diabetic, or a junkie.
Just kidding.
Dan RV-7A almost done
In a message dated 2/21/04 3:58:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dane@mutualace.com writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
> Kevin &RV group
>
> My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
> reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the temperature
> does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further off
> the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
>
> Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
> Can you Fix them?
>
> Dane Sheahen
> RV8a 150hrs
>
>
Message 32
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | interesting, seems appropo to this list |
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW-- What a
Ride!!!"
do not archive
Message 33
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Syringe from a vet (dog doc) not an ex-military type :-)
That is where I got a couple.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: ALTIMETER
> --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
>
>
> Dane,
> You can do the static test yourself. Put a piece of electrical tape over
one
> static port and use a 5 or 10 ml syringe with the needle cut to about 1/8
> inch, and a tiny o-ring to seal it on the other port. Slowly draw a 1000
ft
> vacuum and hold it. It should not leak down more than 100 ft in a minute.
You
> may be able to get the syringe at a drugstore, or from a diabetic, or a
junkie.
> Just kidding.
>
> Dan RV-7A almost done
>
>
> In a message dated 2/21/04 3:58:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> dane@mutualace.com writes:
>
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
> >
> > Kevin &RV group
> >
> > My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
> > reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the
temperature
> > does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further
off
> > the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
> >
> > Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
> > Can you Fix them?
> >
> > Dane Sheahen
> > RV8a 150hrs
> >
> >
>
>
Message 34
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik <zilik@direcpc.com>
I would go back to the avionics shop that did your initial
xponder/static system check and have him revivify the altimeter.
Gary
Dane Sheahen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
>Kevin & RV group
>
>My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
>reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the temperature
>does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further off
>the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
>
>Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
>Can you Fix them?
>
>Dane Sheahen
>RV8a 150hrs
>
>
> What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
>against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
>the "truth data"?
>
>Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
>simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
>barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
>colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
>ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
>in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
>altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
>1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
>ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
>the temperature differs from standard temperature.
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>>
>>My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
>>first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
>>other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
>>checked it against what approach control had me at.
>>This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It is
>>accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
>>
>>Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
>>Could something else be wrong ?
>>Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
>>Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Message 35
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik <zilik@direcpc.com>
I stuck my transducer between the mechanical pump and the carb. Works great.
Gary
Chuck Weyant wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <cweyant@chuckdirect.com>
>
>RV9A. Want to install a fuel flow system. Needs to be around $300 or so. Which
one? And where do I install the transducer? Not much room as far as I can see.
Seems the ones I've checked out want the transducer on the vaccum side of
the fuel pump. With the fuel pump on the inside of the firewall in the nine,
and the fuel line running down the center of the cockpit floor to the fuel selecter
valve, I don't see anywhere to install a transducer. How have others done
it? (No luck with the archives search.)
>Chuck
>
>
>
>
Message 36
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
I suspect your alt has lost its regular static source. Easy test when flying:
if you can open a vent that will pressurize your cockpit abruptly... the
altimeter will suddenly read lower. If you are able to open a vent that
exhausts air from the cockpit area, the altimeter will read abruptly higher. I
have dual static ports, one on either side of the fuselage because a single port
can have errors just from a skidding turn even though the installed static
system is still intact.
Altimeter problem.... always... check static first.
Hal
theplanefolks.net
Tom Gummo wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
>
> anything change in your pitot static air system?
>
> Tom Gummo
> Apple Valley, CA
> Harmon Rocket-II
>
> do not archive
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: ALTIMETER
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
> >
> > Kevin & RV group
> >
> > My comparison on the altimeter last week was a flight of 5 airplanes all
> > reading approximately the same altitude except for mine. So the
> temperature
> > does not seem to be part of the problem. My altimeter just gets further
> off
> > the higher I go and I did not have this problem last winter.
> >
> > Does anyone else have any experience with Vans altimeters going bad?
> > Can you Fix them?
> >
> > Dane Sheahen
> > RV8a 150hrs
> >
> >
> > What are you using as your "truth data" to compare the altimeter
> > against, and how do you know the error is in the altimeter and not
> > the "truth data"?
> >
> > Your altimeter might still be OK, and what you are seeing could
> > simply be the usual cold temperature errors. The "accuracy" of a
> > barometric altitude varies with temperature. If the temperature is
> > colder than standard temp (15 deg C or 59 deg F at sea level), a 1000
> > ft change in barometric altitude is actually less than 1000 ft change
> > in true, "geometric" altitude. In other words, if you set the
> > altimeter so it reads zero on the ground, then take-off and climb to
> > 1,000 ft on the altimeter, you are actually less than 1,000 ft above
> > ground. The amount of the error is about 4% for every 10 deg C that
> > the temperature differs from standard temperature.
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
> >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
> > >
> > >My question is why would my altimeter become inaccurate over time. The
> > >first year in my RV8a the altimeter was dead nuts on. I checked it with
> > >other planes I was flying with, I checked it against two GPSs, and I
> > >checked it against what approach control had me at.
> > >This fall as the cold weather stared to set in I noticed it was off. It
> is
> > >accurate on the ground when I put in the barometric pressure. As I climb
> > to
> > >about 6500 I am reading 200 ft higher than I am actually flying.
> > >
> > >Can you fix these altimeters ? ( was bought from Vans)
> > >Could something else be wrong ?
> > >Has anyone else had this problem with Vans altimeters ?
> > >Should I replace it with a TSO model ?
> > >
> >
> >
>
Message 37
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: RV: ELT Required?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
I brought up the exemption during my AB DAR orientation with my FAA Advisor
and he wants the ELT in the airplane during the test phase. Up until that
time, I was under the impression that you had to have it but did not need it
in the test flight area. Must meet the current TSO so do not get a used one
that does not.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,435 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV: ELT Required??
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
It might be written into your Operating limitations that you have to have an
ELT even during testing. This piece of paper takes precedence over the
FARs. Further the inspector might want to see the install before he signs
it off as you don't want to pay him for a return trip.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV: ELT Required??
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> You probably could make a case that way but........
>
> Mike R.
>
>
> >From: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: RV: ELT Required??
> >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:33:21 -0600
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
> >
> >Item #4 below is very interesting. Mike, does this mean that the ELT
would
> >not have to be installed in a two place aircraft while in Phase 1 of
it's
> >flight testing? Just a thought.
> >
> >Marty in Brentwood, TN
> >
> >
> >Time: 10:27:00 AM PST US
> >From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: ELT Required??
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> >
> >Here is the list and I believe that #1 for turbojets has been
rescinded.
> >
> >e) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, a person may --
> >(1) Ferry a newly acquired airplane from the place where possession of
it
> >was taken to a place where the emergency locator transmitter is to be
> >installed; and
> >(2) Ferry an airplane with an inoperative emergency locator transmitter
> >from
> >a place where repairs or replacements cannot be made to a place where
they
> >can be made.
> >No person other than required crewmembers may be carried aboard an
airplane
> >being ferried under paragraph (e) of this section.
> >(f) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to -
> >(1) Turbojet-powered aircraft;
> >(2) Aircraft while engaged in scheduled flights by scheduled air
carriers;
> >(3) Aircraft while engaged in training operations conducted entirely
within
> >a 50-nautical mile radius of the airport from which such local flight
> >operations began;
> >(4) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to design and
> >testing;
> >(5) New aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to their
> >manufacture, preparation, and delivery;
> >(6) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to the aerial
> >application of chemicals and other substances for agricultural purposes;
> >(7) Aircraft certificated by the Administrator for research and
development
> >purposes;
> >(8) Aircraft while used for showing compliance with regulations, crew
> >training, exhibition, air racing, or market surveys;
> >(9) Aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person; and
> >(10) An aircraft during any period for which the transmitter has been
> >temporarily removed for inspection, repair, modification, or
replacement,
> >subject to the following:
> >(i) No person may operate the aircraft unless the aircraft records
contain
> >an entry which includes the date of initial removal, the make, model,
> >serial
> >number, and reason for removing the transmitter, and a placard located
in
> >view of the pilot to show "ELT not installed."
> >(ii) No person may operate the aircraft more than 90 days after the ELT
is
> >initially removed from the aircraft.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: ELT Required??
> >
> >
Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide.
Message 38
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
Chuck Weyant wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <cweyant@chuckdirect.com>
>
>RV9A. Want to install a fuel flow system. Needs to be around $300 or so. Which
one? And where do I install the transducer? Not much room as far as I can see.
Seems the ones I've checked out want the transducer on the vaccum side of
the fuel pump. With the fuel pump on the inside of the firewall in the nine,
and the fuel line running down the center of the cockpit floor to the fuel selecter
valve, I don't see anywhere to install a transducer. How have others done
it? (No luck with the archives search.)
>Chuck
>
How about
http://www.matronics.com
(by our list host)
or
http://www.boatfix.com/elec/standgps.asp
& scroll down to the bottom of the page
Message 39
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: dimpled backwards |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
I suggest that you look for cracks after reversing the dimples. If you
find any, stop drill them, them make a small doubler to go on the back of
the spar. Dimple and flush rivet in place before attaching the original
intended piece. More work, but greater peace of mind.
Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage (setting up shop in Franklin,
Tennessee)
Do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: "greg" <greg@itmack.com>
(snip)
I checked with Van's and they said it
should be ok to reverse them, but I like your idea of making new holes
nearby.mp
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|