---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/29/04: 38 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:34 AM - Yesterday's I39 Fly-in (Dana Overall) 2. 04:20 AM - Re: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments (RV8ter@aol.com) 3. 05:50 AM - Re: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability (Mickey Coggins) 4. 06:36 AM - Instrument Panel (Wayne R. Couture) 5. 07:11 AM - Re: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments (Charlie & Tupper England) 6. 07:24 AM - Re: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments (Ed Anderson) 7. 09:03 AM - Re: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! (Vanremog@aol.com) 8. 09:03 AM - Re: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments (Vanremog@aol.com) 9. 09:17 AM - Flyin Leftovers, need a little help. (Dana Overall) 10. 09:20 AM - Re: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! (Skylor Piper) 11. 09:26 AM - Re: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments (SportAV8R@aol.com) 12. 10:40 AM - Dimple or countersink 904/976/922 (Matthew Brandes) 13. 10:49 AM - Re: a titanium Ti-down note (HCRV6@aol.com) 14. 11:38 AM - Strobe power supply repair (Ed Holyoke) 15. 12:17 PM - Re: Dimple or countersink 904/976/922 (Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)) 16. 12:33 PM - Re: Strobe power supply repair (BPattonsoa@aol.com) 17. 01:34 PM - Re: Stainless Wheel Pants Brackets (Fred Stucklen) 18. 01:34 PM - Re: Flyin Leftovers, need a little help. (PILOT8127@aol.com) 19. 02:00 PM - Hiding the hindge pin (Rich Crosley) 20. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: Stainless Wheel Pants Brackets (JusCash@aol.com) 21. 03:28 PM - Re: Hiding the hindge pin (Ron Walker) 22. 03:29 PM - Dynon Remote Compass mounting? (Kevin Horton) 23. 04:24 PM - Re: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? (Charlie Kuss) 24. 05:09 PM - Re: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? (Larry Bowen) 25. 05:36 PM - Re: Hiding the hindge pin (bryan hooks) 26. 05:39 PM - Re: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? (Kevin Horton) 27. 05:46 PM - Re: Hiding the hindge pin (bryan hooks) 28. 05:54 PM - Re: Hiding the hindge pin (Richard E. Tasker) 29. 05:57 PM - Re: Hiding the hindge pin (Sam Buchanan) 30. 06:00 PM - Re: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? (Sam Buchanan) 31. 06:04 PM - Hiding the cowl hinge pin (David Burton) 32. 06:10 PM - Re: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! (Douglas A. Fischer) 33. 06:42 PM - Re: Strobe power supply repair (Vanremog@aol.com) 34. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Stainless Wheel Pants Brackets (Vanremog@aol.com) 35. 07:02 PM - A big step (Brian Huffaker) 36. 09:07 PM - Re: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! (Richard E. Tasker) 37. 09:13 PM - Rudder trailing edge - T-88 vs Tank sealant (Dave Ghost) 38. 09:40 PM - HVLP systems (Brian Duncan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:20 AM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RV-List: Yesterday's I39 Fly-in --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" >From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" No doubt Dana if the event gets any larger, you will need to move this event. We pushed the envelope for this venue. I'm in the process of writing up a story for Doug's site as the lead story tomorrow. I'll post the URL when Doug gets it up so we don't "bore" those who were unable to attend:-) I'm sure the weather had a great influence on the turnout. Attendees from as far north as Pontiac Mich and as far south as Tampa (like I said, 86 RVs as of noon when the counting stopped) and Sam.........if you wanted short sleeve weather (63 when I left the airport). I had to sell one arm and one leg to get what we had yesterday..........if you wanted better, you'd have to start calling me "Shorty or Lefty":-) Just as a note to what Mike said (and yes, I already have a couple options available) we filled the ramp up by 10AM and started parking on the parallel taxiway. The taxiway is about 1500' and we filled it on both sides!! As singles left we were able to get additional RVs onto the ramp but at no time did we run out of parking. Had me concerned for a while:-), just hope it didn't show. We still had room on each side of the runway. With that said, we only had three minor "traffic jams" all day with no biggies. One was a transient stopping in the middle of the taxiway to drop a passenger off and had to then taxi against the flow......lasted about 2 minutes, one was simply a very large influx of RVs along with a student pilot leaving the ramp in a 172 and one was a twin with locked up brakes that impeded the 9 ship formation flight taxi down the taxiway. Not bad for the traffic we had. My 17 year old son and his best friend did the "traffic cop" thing for $50 bucks each and a bucket of Hooters wings. And, yes I have already taken care of it with the manager: I WILL have two Hooters girls deliver and serve the wings next year! I will do something next year. I will certainly entertain anything to improve upon what I thought was a fantastic day.....but a laid back appearance with safety hidden in the background will be the prevailing process. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:20 AM PST US From: RV8ter@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com there all northern yankee Dems. Now add the label "Very Liberal, tied to the hip to Ted Kennedy Yankee Dem soon to be presidential candidate nominee" and you gots yourself one scary situation! :-) do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:55 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins assessments Subject: Re: RV-List: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins assessments Last time I checked, HI was not in the northern part of the country! :-) Mickey At 13:45 29-02-04, RV8ter@aol.com wrote: -----Start of Original Message----- >--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com > >there all northern yankee Dems. > >Now add the label "Very Liberal, tied to the hip to Ted Kennedy Yankee Dem >soon to be presidential candidate nominee" and you gots yourself one scary >situation! :-) > >do not archive -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:55 AM PST US From: "Wayne R. Couture" Subject: RV-List: Instrument Panel --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne R. Couture" A few months ago I posted the fact that I wasn't happy with the way my panel was coming out and that I had actually ruined my first one. I also didn't want to purchase or learn how to use a CAD program just for one panel. I requested help from the list and promptly got a response from Ross Schlotthauer! Ross offered to lay it out in CAD and work with me to get the panel cut to the exact dimensions I wanted and the finish product turned out excellent, better than I could have hoped for. If your skills aren't up to your own standards as mine weren't, consider checking out Ross's web site at www.experimentalair.com . Man this web site is great! Thanks Matt Wayne Couture RV-8A wiring ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:06 AM PST US From: Charlie & Tupper England Subject: Re: RV-List: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England SportAV8R@aol.com wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > > >>>written my Representative about this bill. Interesting to note who the >>> >>> >sponsors of this bill are: > >Co-sponsors of the bill include Rep. Ed Case, (D-HI); Rep. John Conyers, >Jr., (D-MI) Rep. Norman Dicks, D-WA; Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-NY; Rep. >Jerrold Nadler, D-NY; Rep. Major Owens, D-NY; and Rep. Louise McIntosh >Slaughter, D-NY.<< > >note any common denominator among these congressional representatives? > > >Lemme guess; they're mostly Yankees? Actually, no, Ed, I D-0N 't notice the D-EN ominator; what are you seeing that the rest of us D-O not? > >Heightening GA security is just more feel-good D-O N othing legislation D-ES igned to fool the sheeple - symbolism over substance. It's as bogus as gun control, but it may play better, given the level of fear and paranoia in the masses. Nothing these D-UN ces try should surprise us. Maybe we can get off our collective a$$e$ and make a D-IF ference in this issue. I D-UN no; maybe not... > >Bill B > > >If they wanna see "airport security" at my home field, I'll show these D-IStinguished legislators some of the evil-looking all-black sport utility weapons they're so afraid of. > >"Stand real still, congressman; wouldn't want this apple to fall off your head just yet... it might spoil the trick. This here is M-196 tracer; it looks spectacular at night. Now I'll just stand over there and we'll make believe you're wearing a diaper on your head and you've snuck in here to hot-wire my RV and terrorize the polulace. Ready?..." > >do not archive > Guys, I'm nt a 'D'; I consider myself a card carrying Pragmatist. I say this to make it clear that I'm not a defender of Democrats. Now: If you think the danger is solely from Democrats, I invite you to watch a little cable or network news. It matters not if you watch the so-called liberal media or the so-called 'fair and balanced' reporting of Fox. (Bill O'Reilly, from the 'fair & balanced' No Spin Zone, has stated repeatedly that all foreign nationals in this country should be rounded up & deported & that that the public should be disarmed. I guess it goes without saying that a white boy with the surname O'Rielly gets 'grandfathered' in because he was born here, even though his ancestors were immigrants) Consider that ALL the restrictions placed on our freedoms (and flying is only a minor blip on the radar of freedoms lost) over the last 2+ years have been instituted by a Republican administration and/or a Republican controlled congress. No law could have been passed in the last 2 years without Republican support. Perusal of the Patriot Act should make your blood run cold. Google for John Ashcroft's speeches & read about how he believes that any citizen who speaks out in opposition to Administration policies should be treated. I'll save you some time. He believes that anyone who speaks out against Administration policies is a traitor. I have seen him make that statement. Google for 'Patriot Act II', & read about the back room proposals being floated by Administration powers for further invasions into our privacy & losses to our fundamental constitutional rights as Americans. George Bush (meaning his Puppet Masters) opposed the arming of airline pilots & backed down only after extreme pressure from the NRA. If you believe that there are any true differences between Democratic power brokers & Republican power brokers, do what any criminal investigator would do: follow the money. I know that this isn't the proper forum for this discussion, but since the subject was broached.... Charlie BTW, Ed Anderson, who wrote the original post, is a good friend of mine. Ed, I hope you understand where I'm coming from. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:48 AM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie & Tupper England" Subject: Re: RV-List: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England > > SportAV8R@aol.com wrote: > > >--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > > > > > > >>>written my Representative about this bill. Interesting to note who the > >>> > >>> > >sponsors of this bill are: > > > >Co-sponsors of the bill include Rep. Ed Case, (D-HI); Rep. John Conyers, > >Jr., (D-MI) Rep. Norman Dicks, D-WA; Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-NY; Rep. > >Jerrold Nadler, D-NY; Rep. Major Owens, D-NY; and Rep. Louise McIntosh > >Slaughter, D-NY.<< > > > >note any common denominator among these congressional representatives? > > > > > >Lemme guess; they're mostly Yankees? Actually, no, Ed, I D-0N 't notice the D-EN ominator; what are you seeing that the rest of us D-O not? > > > >Heightening GA security is just more feel-good D-O N othing legislation D-ES igned to fool the sheeple - symbolism over substance. It's as bogus as gun control, but it may play better, given the level of fear and paranoia in the masses. Nothing these D-UN ces try should surprise us. Maybe we can get off our collective a$$e$ and make a D-IF ference in this issue. I D-UN no; maybe not... > > > >Bill B > > > > > >If they wanna see "airport security" at my home field, I'll show these D-IStinguished legislators some of the evil-looking all-black sport utility weapons they're so afraid of. > > > >"Stand real still, congressman; wouldn't want this apple to fall off your head just yet... it might spoil the trick. This here is M-196 tracer; it looks spectacular at night. Now I'll just stand over there and we'll make believe you're wearing a diaper on your head and you've snuck in here to hot-wire my RV and terrorize the polulace. Ready?..." > > > >do not archive > > > > Guys, I'm nt a 'D'; I consider myself a card carrying Pragmatist. I say > this to make it clear that I'm not a defender of Democrats. > > Now: > > If you think the danger is solely from Democrats, I invite you to watch > a little cable or network news. It matters not if you watch the > so-called liberal media or the so-called 'fair and balanced' reporting > of Fox. (Bill O'Reilly, from the 'fair & balanced' No Spin Zone, has > stated repeatedly that all foreign nationals in this country should be > rounded up & deported & that that the public should be disarmed. I guess > it goes without saying that a white boy with the surname O'Rielly gets > 'grandfathered' in because he was born here, even though his ancestors > were immigrants) > > Consider that ALL the restrictions placed on our freedoms (and flying is > only a minor blip on the radar of freedoms lost) over the last 2+ years > have been instituted by a Republican administration and/or a Republican > controlled congress. No law could have been passed in the last 2 years > without Republican support. > > Perusal of the Patriot Act should make your blood run cold. Google for > John Ashcroft's speeches & read about how he believes that any citizen > who speaks out in opposition to Administration policies should be > treated. I'll save you some time. He believes that anyone who speaks out > against Administration policies is a traitor. I have seen him make that > statement. > > Google for 'Patriot Act II', & read about the back room proposals being > floated by Administration powers for further invasions into our privacy > & losses to our fundamental constitutional rights as Americans. > > George Bush (meaning his Puppet Masters) opposed the arming of airline > pilots & backed down only after extreme pressure from the NRA. > > If you believe that there are any true differences between Democratic > power brokers & Republican power brokers, do what any criminal > investigator would do: follow the money. > > I know that this isn't the proper forum for this discussion, but since > the subject was broached.... > > Charlie > BTW, Ed Anderson, who wrote the original post, is a good friend of mine. > Ed, I hope you understand where I'm coming from. > No offense, Charlie. Just sometimes we share different views and perspectives on topics - as you know. One of the things we do agree on - is the right to disagree {:>). Ed Ed ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:29 AM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 2/28/2004 8:40:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, Robin.Wessel@verizon.net writes: Does anyone know why the price of new heated 12V pitot tubes has more than quadrupled in the past 3 years?!? Spruce is now $480 and Chief sells one for $964!!! Duh... same as fuel prices and hangar fees here in California, because they can. GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 675 hrs) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:29 AM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 2/28/2004 5:22:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, cgalley@QCBC.ORG writes: When a party is out of power they introduce all sorts of feel good bills to use in their campaign. Or they spend a year and a half tying up the government trying to find out whose spunk was on the dress. I agree with Charlie. It doesn't matter which party we're talking about here, they all have their issues, and you should follow the money always. If I could keep the new Republicans out of the bedroom, out of my beliefs and out of my wallet, I could be persuaded that there was a difference between them and the Dems. Do not archive GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 675 hrs) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:09 AM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RV-List: Flyin Leftovers, need a little help. --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" In writing up a rundown on the yesterday's flyin, I would like to ask a couple favors. I would like someone from each RV wing to email me, offline, with a total number of members represented by your wing. I currently show Indy with 20, Ohio Valley with 17 or 18 and TeamRV with either 9 or 10. If possible could you do this today. Next: The six driver with the carbon fiber panel........anyone know who that was?? If so, I would like to talk with him offline. Next: I have left over a GPS Smart Coupler II with adapter cable to couple a handheld with an autopilot. The retail on the coupler alone was $224 when purchased. $125.00 plus shipping takes it. Email me offline Next: Shameless plug:-) I had four people come up to me and say they had made a decision on their RV type after yesterdays flyin.................my builders number is 70733 if you would like to list me a referral (we get $100 credit from Van's)....See I told you Shameless Plug. Thanks Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:09 AM PST US From: "Skylor Piper" Subject: RV-List: Re: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! --> RV-List message posted by: "Skylor Piper" Weird. I just bought my pitot tube(PH502-12) from chief last week for $415. I guess their price increased drastically when they had to restock it! Also, it looks like the price for Whellen strobe/position lights are going up too. I bought mine from Vans a couple of weeks ago and their price was the same as last year ($780 for Kit 6) but Spruce and Chief show the kit for $150 more or so than they had it for last year. --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" The problem is that the only company that makes these tubes was purchased two or three years ago and the new owners are selling them for what the market will bear (and raising the price each year trying to find the ceiling price of what the market will bear). It is what happens when you have a monopoly. Try ebay or salvage yards. A used one is fine as long as it hasn't been damaged. There really isn't much that can go wrong with them. I was able to find a heated pitot/static tube on ebay for a reasonable price a few months ago. Dick Tasker, RV9A #90573 Robin Wessel wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Wessel" > >Does anyone know why the price of new heated 12V pitot tubes has more >than quadrupled in the past 3 years?!? > >Spruce is now $480 and Chief sells one for $964!!! > >Anyone have a suggestion for where I can find a cheaper one? I have not >checked with the salvage yards yet since my preference would be for a >new one. Last time I bought one for -6A from Wentworth they sent me one >that obviously scraped the ground but the price was right (<$100). > >thanks, > >Robin Wessel >RV-10 wings >Tigard, OR > > >--- > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:30 AM PST US From: SportAV8R@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: New "No Fly Zones" and airport vulnerability assessments --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com >>I know that this isn't the proper forum for this discussion, but since the subject was broached.... Charlie BTW, Ed Anderson, who wrote the original post, is a good friend of mine. Ed, I hope you understand where I'm coming from.<< And, Charlie, I don't want my good natured ribbing of the Dem's (man, but they ask for it!) to be confused with approval for all the acts of our current party in power, who have largely forsaken the principles they once stood for. The Patriot Act was BAD; McCain-Feingold was nothing less than the beginning (perhaps the middle) of the END of our constitutional government. I see dark days ahead, and the President I pray for daily (or should) is not helping a fourth so much as he could. Our fouunding fathers foresaw this day and gave us the second amendment in order to protect the first, and all the others; they knew they had created a Trojan Horse in the form of the independent judiciary, and it is unfolding just as they feared. These men were obviously gvery wise and courageous, but not perfect. -Bill do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:37 AM PST US From: "Matthew Brandes" Subject: RV-List: Dimple or countersink 904/976/922 --> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" I'm about ready to disassemble the center section assembly but before I do, I need some input. The F-972 floor skin overlaps the F-976 center section skin which in turn sits on the flange of the 904 E&F. The plans note four places you should countersink the 976/904 because this is where the floor angles attach on the inside. This implies that you should dimple the rest. The flange on the 904 is pretty thick, and dimpling this plus the two skins could leave a not so hot mating surfaces between them all. I'm thinking I'll countersink the entire row of 976 skin/904 flange and dimple the 972 skin to sit inside the countersink. Is this what others did?? Am I missing something?? Matthew Brandes Van's RV-9A (Wings) EAA Chapter 91 & 868 www.n523rv.com matthew@n523rv.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:36 AM PST US From: HCRV6@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: a titanium Ti-down note --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com Thanks Chris. I won't need them for a few months at least. Do not archive Harry Crosby Pleasanton, California RV-6, final assembly ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:11 AM PST US From: "Ed Holyoke" Subject: RV-List: Strobe power supply repair --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" Hey guys, My Whelan wingtip power supply quit working. It's got voltage to it and the flash tube works when I try it on the other wing so it's gotta be the power supply. It's a A490, T-DF-14/28 and it seems to be about $225 to replace it. Has anybody had one repaired? The case is pop riveted on so they seem to be serious about their no field repair policy. Thanks, Ed Holyoke ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:17:49 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Dimple or countersink 904/976/922 From: "Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)" Matthew, Exactly how thick is each part? Generally speaking, you can't dimple anything over about .032", and can't countersink anything under .032". If it is .032" thick, you can choose which to do. Frank -----Original Message----- --> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" I'm about ready to disassemble the center section assembly but before I do, I need some input. The F-972 floor skin overlaps the F-976 center section skin which in turn sits on the flange of the 904 E&F. The plans note four places you should countersink the 976/904 because this is where the floor angles attach on the inside. This implies that you should dimple the rest. The flange on the 904 is pretty thick, and dimpling this plus the two skins could leave a not so hot mating surfaces between them all. I'm thinking I'll countersink the entire row of 976 skin/904 flange and dimple the 972 skin to sit inside the countersink. Is this what others did?? Am I missing something?? Learn real skills for the real world - Apply online at http://www.ucol.ac.nz or call 0800 GO UCOL (0800 46 8265) or txt free 3388 for more information and make a good move to UCOL Universal College of Learning. Enrol with a public institute and be certain of your future ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:33:29 PM PST US From: BPattonsoa@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Strobe power supply repair --> RV-List message posted by: BPattonsoa@aol.com Before you send it in, be sure you have Power to the wingtip. Just having voltage means nothing if a connection has gone bad and it can't pass the amps. I had a similar problem with a cabin strobe power supply that was intermittent. I appeared to have voltage at the box, but a crimp was not tight on the switch (the only one of about a million, I hope), and I found it when I burned my finger touching the connection in flight. Whelen was nice, and it only cost me shipping back and forth and the frustration. These things are educational even when fllying. Bruce Patton ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:41 PM PST US From: "Fred Stucklen" Subject: RV-List: Re: Stainless Wheel Pants Brackets --> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Stucklen" I've got 152 Hrs on my RV-6A (with the new style wheel pants) and have already replaced one wheel pant bracket. I figure the other one will have the same problem soon, and I'll probably find it cracked when I rotate the tires in a couple of weeks. I really don't want to have to replace one or both of them on every tire change/rotation. So, in my opinion, I have the choice of doubling up on the thickness of the current material, or replacing them with the stainless material. For the extra money, I'd rather have the durability of the stainless..... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV 150+ Hrs --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Charlie & Tupper England wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England > >Jerry Springer wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer >> >>My question is, what are the problems that people are having with the >>stock brackets Van sells? >>I have not had any problems with them nor have I heard of any problems >>here locally. >> >>Jerry >> >> >> > >I can't speak about the newer kits, but I had to replace a broken >bracket on my ('92 completion date) -4 at around 400 hours. > >Charlie > > > > I had over 1000 hours on my old style ('89 completeion date) RV-6 brackets with no problems. I don't have enough time on the new style yet to know if they well break or not, time well tell. Jerry ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:41 PM PST US From: PILOT8127@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Flyin Leftovers, need a little help. --> RV-List message posted by: PILOT8127@aol.com Hey Dana, Here is the info on the "Indy-RVers" you requested. See Below: Hey Rvers, What a turnout!! Easily the biggest and best'est RV/style extravaganza (for this early in the spring) in years!! Really! Dana did a wonderful job of putting this together,,, considering we pretty much overwelmed the Madison County/Richmond airport today! The best Lebanon, TN. (M54) RV/style event only turned out about 44 RVs in years past. We nearly DOUBLED that today!! WoW!! The "Hooter-wings" were an absolute smash. ((oh my GAWD, finger lickin good, they were!!)) I saw many empty "Hooters-tubs" over by the trash. The burgers and dogs had a waiting line about a half hour long too! Coffee and donuts greeted the RVers early this morning, and they were very much appriciated. The INDY guys found them right away of course! (yum,yum,yum,yum,) burp! OK.......here you go. The list of attendees today! The INDY RVers : 1. Jon Nace RV4 2. Mike Worth RV4 3. Dave Sloan/Dan ????? RV6A 4. Dave Cobbs RV4 5. Jim Nolan RV4 6. Jim/Terri Truitt RV8A 7. Jim Sears RV6A 8. Denny Hackbarth HR/Rv 9. Sherman/Latha Dedman RV6A 10. John Crabtree/Vince F. RV6 11. Larry Boggs (Dragon/RV) RVsuper8 12. Rich Sacher RV6 13. Jeff Roberts (SKULLY) RVsuper8 14. Steve Woods (SMOKER) RV4 15. Gary Rodgers (SMOKER) RV3A 16. Karl Schiling RV8 17. Todd Riefers RV8 18. Jim Winings/Paul McCord RV4 19. Bobby Japundza RV6 20. Mark Hall (FLAG) RV4 Mark was the last of our group to arrive. We had the MOST RVers (as a CLUB) by far!! Waita GO guys!! We got our magic number! 20 INDY RVS! BUT wait!! There's MORE! These are the single RVs that came filing in and eventually filled up the parking area. ALL of it!! 21. RV6 412BN 22. RV8 86X 23. 6A 77YW (Columbus, OH.) 24. 6 7AK 25. 6 1067S 26. 8A 314TS 27. 8 49KS 28. 4 363GC (Michigan) 29. 8A 910LL 30. 8 815RV 31. 8 (3-blade shimitar) 880RV 32. 8 (Gray military sheme) ????? 33. 4 250DS 34. 6 722DK 35. 6 54VC 36. 8 (Lets ROLL!) (pretty!) 626JL 37. 8 (another Schimitar prop) 808PS 38. 4 427WB 39. 6 (polished) 101EM 40. 8 42CS 41. 6 4610D 42. 6A 602EP 43. 6 247AR 44. 6 (polished/red ) 21GJ 45. 6 (polished/white) 198DG (Akron,OH) 46. 8 (Stars/Bars) 165JM 47. 6 (Parkersburg, W. VA.) 915RV 48. 6 856RG 49. 8 46BF 50. 4 348KE 51. 4 774RV 52. 6A 767MA 53. 4 223RV 54. 4 2532T 55. 6 629K 56. 6A 124JJ 57. 6 996PJ 58. 8 563JH 59. 4 43CD 60. 6A 38JC 61. 6A 456WM 62. 6 586DB 63. 6 399SB 64. 6A 413BB 65. 6A 97KB 66. 6A 834JH 67. 6A 612GP 68. 4 81638 69. 6 280DS 70. 8 303TD 71. 8 127EK 72. 6A 915JD Whew!! That's lot of RVs!! Not to mention there were in excess of twenty SPAMS parked out there too! Holy COW!! The FOOD was great, thanks DANA!! The weather was perfect, thanks again DANA!! The fuel was a bit pricey.........at $3 bucks a gallon. But, hey....you can't have everything,,,right??! Two outa three ain't bad!! OK........there you have it. EVERYONE was there! It really don't get any better than this! Especially for February!! Hope you were one of the lucky ones who got to attend this great "RV-cookout and get together" at Madison, KY. today! The southern hospitality of our Kentucky RVer friends was so very much appriciated!! We were treated to the usual RV-formation FLY-Bys this morning. Saw some neat new ideas. Visited with our long lost pals. Even made some new friends too! Paul McCord took about a thousand pictures for us. We are already looking forward to NEXT year! MORE food. MORE RVS!! MORE RV/FUN! Thanks AGAIN Dana!! We had a BLAST! ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:14 PM PST US From: "Rich Crosley" Subject: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" How are you cleaver guys hiding the hindge pin holding the top and bottom of the cowl together? I know you can pull the pin from the cockpit side, but is there a clever way to pull it forward and still hide it? Thanks.............. Rich Crosley RV8 Finishing up Palmdale, CA ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:35 PM PST US From: JusCash@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Stainless Wheel Pants Brackets --> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com Where are they cracking? And which one, the outer our the inner? Like any other aluminum part, the holes need to be deburred and the edges dressed. When doing my wheel pant installation, I found it took a lot of adjusting to get the brackets to lay flat to the wheel pant. If the wheel pant is installed causing tension on the brackets it can induce a stress crack. Cash Copeland RV6 Hayward, Ca In a message dated 2/29/2004 1:35:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, wstucklen1@cox.net writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Stucklen" I've got 152 Hrs on my RV-6A (with the new style wheel pants) and have already replaced one wheel pant bracket. I figure the other one will have the same problem soon, and I'll probably find it cracked when I rotate the tires in a couple of weeks. I really don't want to have to replace one or both of them on every tire change/rotation. So, in my opinion, I have the choice of doubling up on the thickness of the current material, or replacing them with the stainless material. For the extra money, I'd rather have the durability of the stainless..... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV 150+ Hrs --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Charlie & Tupper England wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England > >Jerry Springer wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer >> >>My question is, what are the problems that people are having with the >>stock brackets Van sells? >>I have not had any problems with them nor have I heard of any problems >>here locally. >> >>Jerry >> >> >> > >I can't speak about the newer kits, but I had to replace a broken >bracket on my ('92 completion date) -4 at around 400 hours. > >Charlie > > > > I had over 1000 hours on my old style ('89 completeion date) RV-6 brackets with no problems. I don't have enough time on the new style yet to know if they well break or not, time well tell. Jerry ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:49 PM PST US From: "Ron Walker" Subject: Re: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" Check out Dan Checkaway's latest additions to his web site for his solution ... elegant. http://www.rvproject.com/20040222.html Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Crosley" Subject: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin > --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" > > How are you cleaver guys hiding the hindge pin holding the top and bottom of > the cowl together? I know you can pull the pin from the cockpit side, but > is there a clever way to pull it forward and still hide it? > Thanks.............. > > Rich Crosley > RV8 Finishing up > Palmdale, CA > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:35 PM PST US aeroelectric-list@matronics.com From: Kevin Horton Subject: RV-List: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton I'm pondering the details of how to mount the remote compass sensor for my Dynon EFIS. I'm leaning towards hanging it from the top of the F-809 bulkhead on my RV-8, somewhat similar to: http://home.comcast.net/~jwdanie/Compass/compass.html But, I'm worried about potential interference from the high voltage strobe light line that goes from the power supply back to the tail strobe. I could reroute that guy lower, but it will be a real PITA. So, I'm wondering how close anyone has run a strobe light cable (the big grey one that goes from the power supply to the light) to the EDC-10 remote compass mount. If you've got such a strobe line in the area of your remote compass sensor, tell me how far away it is, and whether you can see any effect on heading from it. My strobe cable would probably be about 8 inches from the compass sensor if I don't move it. I don't want to move it if I can get away with it. Thanks, -- Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:24:04 PM PST US From: Charlie Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss Kevin, I've been considering that location for the compass module of my uEncoder. I have two concerns. Most stationary ferrous metal objects can be compensated for. The problem is near by moving ferrous (steel and iron) parts. The rudder cables are directly below all areas of the tail cone. You also have the elevator horns in the rear and the rear torque tube to bellcrank hardware in the front of the tail cone. If you are installing the battery in the rear (I am) there is also the issue of the magnetic field generated by the master contactor mounted on the battery tray. I'm wondering if a location in the wing might not be better??? Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton > >I'm pondering the details of how to mount the remote compass sensor >for my Dynon EFIS. I'm leaning towards hanging it from the top of >the F-809 bulkhead on my RV-8, somewhat similar to: > >http://home.comcast.net/~jwdanie/Compass/compass.html > >But, I'm worried about potential interference from the high voltage >strobe light line that goes from the power supply back to the tail >strobe. I could reroute that guy lower, but it will be a real PITA. >So, I'm wondering how close anyone has run a strobe light cable (the >big grey one that goes from the power supply to the light) to the >EDC-10 remote compass mount. If you've got such a strobe line in the >area of your remote compass sensor, tell me how far away it is, and >whether you can see any effect on heading from it. > >My strobe cable would probably be about 8 inches from the compass >sensor if I don't move it. I don't want to move it if I can get away >with it. > >Thanks, >-- >Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) >Ottawa, Canada >http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:52 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" My current plan is to put the Dynon compass module inside the inboard inspection cover in the right wing. I'll make an adjustable tripod-type device out of AL and nylon screws that will allow me to tweak it's level, etc. When the wings go on for the last time I'll start working on it..... All theory so far. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Kuss [mailto:chaskuss@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:05 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss > > Kevin, > I've been considering that location for the compass module > of my uEncoder. I have two concerns. Most stationary ferrous > metal objects can be compensated for. The problem is near by > moving ferrous (steel and iron) parts. The rudder cables are > directly below all areas of the tail cone. You also have the > elevator horns in the rear and the rear torque tube to > bellcrank hardware in the front of the tail cone. If you are > installing the battery in the rear (I am) there is also the > issue of the magnetic field generated by the master contactor > mounted on the battery tray. I'm wondering if a location in > the wing might not be better??? Charlie Kuss > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton > > > >I'm pondering the details of how to mount the remote compass sensor > >for my Dynon EFIS. I'm leaning towards hanging it from the top of > >the F-809 bulkhead on my RV-8, somewhat similar to: > > > >http://home.comcast.net/~jwdanie/Compass/compass.html > > > >But, I'm worried about potential interference from the high voltage > >strobe light line that goes from the power supply back to the tail > >strobe. I could reroute that guy lower, but it will be a real PITA. > >So, I'm wondering how close anyone has run a strobe light cable (the > >big grey one that goes from the power supply to the light) to the > >EDC-10 remote compass mount. If you've got such a strobe > line in the > >area of your remote compass sensor, tell me how far away it is, and > >whether you can see any effect on heading from it. > > > >My strobe cable would probably be about 8 inches from the compass > >sensor if I don't move it. I don't want to move it if I can > get away > >with it. > > > >Thanks, > >-- > >Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) > >Ottawa, Canada > >http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:51 PM PST US From: "bryan hooks" Subject: RE: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "bryan hooks" Here's one of the best jobs I've seen. Don't know who's it is. Go to the following link. It's the last picture before the section labeled "Some other nice planes". I think Ross took these pics at Arlington. By the way, if any of you guys are the guilty party for this design...please email me off line. I wanna do it the same way. Bryan Hooks RV-7A, slow Knoxville, TN Hook3607@bellsouth.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich Crosley Subject: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" How are you cleaver guys hiding the hindge pin holding the top and bottom of the cowl together? I know you can pull the pin from the cockpit side, but is there a clever way to pull it forward and still hide it? Thanks.............. Rich Crosley RV8 Finishing up Palmdale, CA == == == == ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:16 PM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton The wing is quite possibly better, and I certainly gave it serious consideration. But a fuselage location allows me to finish this task in the garage, rather than add it to the list of stuff to do after the move to a hangar. Quite a few people seem to have mounted Dynon remote compass sensors in the aft fuselage, and most seem to be happy with the compass performance. At least this is my perception from watching various e-mail lists. Magnetic fields from a point source (like a battery contactor) will vary inversely with the cube of the distance, so the field strength decreases very quickly as the separation increases. I'm satisfied that a location at the top of the F-809 should be more than far enough from the battery contactor, elevator horns, etc. The rudder cables are steel, but they are a fair ways below my proposed location, and I've read reports of success with these things mounted on the aft deck under the VS on a tail dragger, which puts it closer to the rudder cables, tail wheel, elevator bellcrank, etc. My only concern was the high voltage strobe line, as many folks don't have tail mounted strobes, and I haven't read any mention of separation between strobe lines and compass sensors. But Bob Nuckolls on the Aeroelectric List said: There should be NO magnetic field radiated from your strobe lines. Don't worry about them affecting your compass sensor. I trust Bob, so I'll press on with my plan. Kevin Horton >--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss > >Kevin, > I've been considering that location for the compass module of my >uEncoder. I have two concerns. Most stationary ferrous metal objects >can be compensated for. The problem is near by moving ferrous (steel >and iron) parts. The rudder cables are directly below all areas of >the tail cone. You also have the elevator horns in the rear and the >rear torque tube to bellcrank hardware in the front of the tail >cone. If you are installing the battery in the rear (I am) there is >also the issue of the magnetic field generated by the master >contactor mounted on the battery tray. > I'm wondering if a location in the wing might not be better??? >Charlie Kuss > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton >> >>I'm pondering the details of how to mount the remote compass sensor >>for my Dynon EFIS. I'm leaning towards hanging it from the top of >>the F-809 bulkhead on my RV-8, somewhat similar to: >> >>http://home.comcast.net/~jwdanie/Compass/compass.html >> >>But, I'm worried about potential interference from the high voltage >>strobe light line that goes from the power supply back to the tail >>strobe. I could reroute that guy lower, but it will be a real PITA. >>So, I'm wondering how close anyone has run a strobe light cable (the >>big grey one that goes from the power supply to the light) to the >>EDC-10 remote compass mount. If you've got such a strobe line in the >>area of your remote compass sensor, tell me how far away it is, and >>whether you can see any effect on heading from it. >> >>My strobe cable would probably be about 8 inches from the compass >>sensor if I don't move it. I don't want to move it if I can get away >>with it. >> >>Thanks, >>-- >>Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) >>Ottawa, Canada >>http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ > > >> > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:16 PM PST US From: "bryan hooks" Subject: RE: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "bryan hooks" OK, about 30 seconds after sending this, I found it on Dan Checkoways website...instructions and all. -bryan -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryan hooks Subject: RE: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "bryan hooks" Here's one of the best jobs I've seen. Don't know who's it is. Go to the following link. It's the last picture before the section labeled "Some other nice planes". I think Ross took these pics at Arlington. By the way, if any of you guys are the guilty party for this design...please email me off line. I wanna do it the same way. Bryan Hooks RV-7A, slow Knoxville, TN Hook3607@bellsouth.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich Crosley Subject: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" How are you cleaver guys hiding the hindge pin holding the top and bottom of the cowl together? I know you can pull the pin from the cockpit side, but is there a clever way to pull it forward and still hide it? Thanks.............. Rich Crosley RV8 Finishing up Palmdale, CA == == == == == == == == ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:42 PM PST US From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" Uuuh...It would have been nice if you had actually included the link :-) . Dick Tasker bryan hooks wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "bryan hooks" > >Here's one of the best jobs I've seen. Don't know who's it is. Go to >the following link. It's the last picture before the section labeled >"Some other nice planes". I think Ross took these pics at Arlington. >By the way, if any of you guys are the guilty party for this >design...please email me off line. I wanna do it the same way. > >Bryan Hooks >RV-7A, slow >Knoxville, TN >Hook3607@bellsouth.net > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rich Crosley >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" > >How are you cleaver guys hiding the hindge pin holding the top and >bottom of >the cowl together? I know you can pull the pin from the cockpit side, >but >is there a clever way to pull it forward and still hide it? >Thanks.............. > >Rich Crosley >RV8 Finishing up >Palmdale, CA > > >== >== >== >== > > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:42 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan Ron Walker wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" > > Check out Dan Checkaway's latest additions to his web site for his solution > ... elegant. > > http://www.rvproject.com/20040222.html > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Crosley" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Hiding the hindge pin > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Rich Crosley" >> >>How are you cleaver guys hiding the hindge pin holding the top and bottom > > of > >>the cowl together? I know you can pull the pin from the cockpit side, but >>is there a clever way to pull it forward and still hide it? >>Thanks.............. >> >>Rich Crosley >>RV8 Finishing up >>Palmdale, CA >> If you don't want to make the covers with composite materials, you can make them with scrap aluminum you have on hand. There is a photo near the bottom of this page of the hinge pin keepers I have been using for 550 hrs: http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/finish5.html Advantages of this type of keeper: 1) secures the pin 2) hides the gap between the cowl halves 3) ties the cowl halves together with screws which prevents wear and chafing in a very visible spot. I kept a pattern from when I made up the covers; I had one fatigue crack around the screws and made a new one in just a few minutes from the pattern. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:52 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Remote Compass mounting? --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan Charlie Kuss wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss > > Kevin, > I've been considering that location for the compass module of my uEncoder. I have two concerns. Most stationary ferrous metal objects can be compensated for. The problem is near by moving ferrous (steel and iron) parts. The rudder cables are directly below all areas of the tail cone. You also have the elevator horns in the rear and the rear torque tube to bellcrank hardware in the front of the tail cone. If you are installing the battery in the rear (I am) there is also the issue of the magnetic field generated by the master contactor mounted on the battery tray. > I'm wondering if a location in the wing might not be better??? > Charlie Kuss One way to check for the suitability of a location for the remote mag is to use a handheld compass (a cheap one is fine). Move the compass around the area you considering and if you don't see the needle deflect due to flux it should be a good location. My mag is located on the shelf below the vertical stab near rudder cables, elevator horns, and the tailwheel spring. Heading accuracy is within two degrees. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:16 PM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: RV-List: Hiding the cowl hinge pin --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" Can we change the subject line to make searching the archives a little easier :-) ? ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:35 PM PST US From: "Douglas A. Fischer" Subject: Re: RV-List: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! --> RV-List message posted by: "Douglas A. Fischer" Unfortunately, the Dynon website says the pitot will only work with their EFIS-D10. It sounds like if you want their pitot for anything else you're out of luck. Anybody know for certain? Doug Fischer RV-9A 90706 Wings ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! > --> RV-List message posted by: Leesafur@aol.com > > Dynon is gearing up to sell them for $200 > > http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html > > > Lee > Anoka, MN > RV-3 Wing > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:41 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Strobe power supply repair --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 2/29/2004 11:39:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, bicyclop@pacbell.net writes: My Whelen wingtip power supply quit working. It's got voltage to it and the flash tube works when I try it on the other wing so it's gotta be the power supply. It's a A490, T-DF-14/28 and it seems to be about $225 to replace it. Has anybody had one repaired? I believe that their policy is that they will repair them forever to original owner for $40. GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 682 hrs) ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:41 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Stainless Wheel Pants Brackets --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 2/29/2004 1:35:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, wstucklen1@cox.net writes: I've got 152 Hrs on my RV-6A (with the new style wheel pants) and have already replaced one wheel pant bracket. Odd. I've got 682 hrs on mine and not even a hint of a problem. I just inspected them during their fifth condition inspection last week. Did Van's change the design? I can imagine how they could break as robust as they are. GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 682 hrs) ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:37 PM PST US From: Brian Huffaker Roberta Hood , Lesley , ghuffaker@hotmail.com, Harold Hood , Shauna Huffaker , Mohamed Elsawi , Wenda Crabb , Mark , Marsh Subject: RV-List: A big step --> RV-List message posted by: Brian Huffaker Passed a significant milestone today. Something that happens in the construction of every homebuilt. Had the tail attached, the controls hooked up, nothing left to stop me. So I got in the cockpit and made airplane noises for the first time. No throttle, but rudder and stick. Did find out that the rudder pedals hit the firewall if breaks are applied at full rudder position. Otherwise, very pleased. Since there was nothing left to do back there, took the tail back off so I wouldn't have to duck under it to walk around the garage. Pictures at: http://www.xmission.com/~bifft/rv/index.html Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com) RV-8A 80091 Sitting in the cockpit, making airplane noises. 1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying do not archive ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:54 PM PST US From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: RV-List: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" Their pitot is a combination pitot/AOA. I can't see why the pitot part wouldn't work for anyone. You would need the D10 to use the AOA part. But I won't know for certain until mine arrives (this spring???). Dick Tasker Douglas A. Fischer wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Douglas A. Fischer" > >Unfortunately, the Dynon website says the pitot will only work with their >EFIS-D10. It sounds like if you want their pitot for anything else you're >out of luck. Anybody know for certain? > >Doug Fischer >RV-9A 90706 Wings > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: Heated Pitot tube $964!!!! > > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Leesafur@aol.com >> >>Dynon is gearing up to sell them for $200 >> >>http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html >> >> >>Lee >>Anoka, MN >>RV-3 Wing >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:23 PM PST US From: "Dave Ghost" Subject: RV-List: Rudder trailing edge - T-88 vs Tank sealant --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ghost" Im considering using T-88 structural epoxy on the rudder trailing edge instead of tank sealant, but first I thought Id check with those more experienced than I in the use of these materials. I havent used either yet. Are there any compelling reasons to use tank sealant rather than this epoxy or is the epoxy a better way to go? I have the epoxy on hand, but would gladly order the small container of tank sealant if it will perform better on the trailing edge. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Dave, RV-7 Empennage ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:04 PM PST US From: "Brian Duncan" Subject: RV-List: HVLP systems --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Duncan" Does anyone have experience with HVLP setups? Any brands to look for or avoid? I'm looking at 3 or 4 stage turbine for priming and maybe finish. I'm also need to do some re-finishing around the house. Any experiences would be appreciated. Thanks. Brian