RV-List Digest Archive

Wed 03/10/04


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:09 AM - Re: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size (Scott Bilinski)
     2. 06:31 AM - Re: Used Monroy ATD-200 anti collision units. (Henry Hochberg)
     3. 06:34 AM - Re: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size (John Huft)
     4. 06:45 AM - RV-List Digest Shipping Heavy stuff - Good idea (Cheap way to ship & Move heavy items) (pcondon)
     5. 07:01 AM - poker run (Jason Sneed)
     6. 07:03 AM - Re: Used Monroy ATD-200 anti collision units. (Dana Overall)
     7. 08:03 AM - RV6 slider defrosters (DWENSING@aol.com)
     8. 09:11 AM - RV-7A Painter needed (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
     9. 11:05 AM - Backpacks and coolers at SNF (Dana Overall)
    10. 12:50 PM - Alternate pitot location (was [Fw: Re: [BD4] Heated Pitot] ) (Charlie & Tupper England)
    11. 02:27 PM - Audio Isolation Amplifier in my intercom system (Jordan Grant)
    12. 04:13 PM - Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question.  (BillRVSIX@aol.com)
    13. 04:17 PM - Re: RV6 slider defrosters (Alex Peterson)
    14. 04:45 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List: Audio Isolation Amplifier in my intercom system (Jordan Grant)
    15. 05:05 PM - Re: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question.  (Mike Nellis)
    16. 05:10 PM - Re: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question. (Gert)
    17. 05:31 PM - Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV6 slider defrosters  (Jeff Orear)
    18. 05:55 PM - Re: RV6 slider defrosters (Curt Reimer)
    19. 07:15 PM - Re: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question. (John D. Heath)
    20. 09:11 PM - Re: Re: RV 10 Tail cone top skins (Eustace Bowhay)
    21. 09:52 PM - Dynon/Trio report (Wheeler North)
    22. 11:02 PM - Re: Dynon/Trio report (GMC)
    23. 11:24 PM - Re: Wing Attach Questions... (Jim and Bev Cone)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:09:17 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> The number I just read was outlet is 78% smaller than inlet. At 11:36 PM 3/9/04 -0700, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net> > >Hi Listers, >I'm considering using round cowl inlets and an aluminum plenum on my RV3 >with an 0320. Does anyone know the proper dia. of a round inlet and how >this compares to the size/area of Van's std oblong inlet. >Thanks, >Rick Fogerson >RV3 engine baffling >Boise, ID > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 06:31:01 AM PST US
    From: Henry Hochberg <aeroncadoc@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Used Monroy ATD-200 anti collision units.
    --> RV-List message posted by: Henry Hochberg <aeroncadoc@comcast.net> If all the units at $225 are sold, contact me if you want a basically brand new (used twice) ATD-200 unit for $350. Email off list for details, but I'm one of those that paid $600 for mine originally and can't quite bring myself to part with it at $225. Henry H. Dana Overall wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> > >Gang, would anyone be interested in buying used Monroy ATD-200 anti >collision units? Several months ago the Beech list (sold the Bonanza to >finish the RV but still on the list) organized a group purchase along with >Piper list. They got a good deal on the new ATD-300 so there are a lot of >200s privately for sale. One guy said he wanted to buy a 200 back, as he >liked it better than the 300. I bought one today for $225, the retail was >somewhere around $650. They have gone for as high as $350 but there are >enough sellers at the cheaper prices to lower those lofty figures. > >I am still receiving responses to my Beechlist post. If anyone is >interested, get hold of me offline. If I can swing a couple for $225, I'll >just put you in touch with the seller. No, I'm not the middle man. > >This offer will only be good for a couple days, as I'm sure I started a >selling frenzy on the web, so let me know. > > >Dana Overall >Richmond, KY i39 >RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" >Finish kit >13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. >http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg >http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg >http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg >do not archive > >Learn how to help protect your privacy and prevent fraud online at Tech > > > >


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    Time: 06:34:55 AM PST US
    From: John Huft <aflyer@direcway.com>
    Subject: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size
    --> RV-List message posted by: John Huft <aflyer@direcway.com> Call Dave Anders at (559) 627-3375. He has it all worked out and sells the machined rings for each size engine. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Fogerson Subject: RV-List: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size --> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net> Hi Listers, I'm considering using round cowl inlets and an aluminum plenum on my RV3 with an 0320. Does anyone know the proper dia. of a round inlet and how this compares to the size/area of Van's std oblong inlet. Thanks, Rick Fogerson RV3 engine baffling Boise, ID


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    Time: 06:45:57 AM PST US
    From: "pcondon" <pcondon@mitre.org>
    Subject: RV-List Digest Shipping Heavy stuff - Good idea (Cheap way to
    ship & Move heavy items) --> RV-List message posted by: "pcondon" <pcondon@mitre.org> Some may be aware of this concept in shipping large, heavy boxes or engines....I wasn't until I read this post from the Zenair list. It involves use of a shipping broker, (like a travel agent for boxes). Also, I too have used the home depo stake bed truck for aviation related local moves of heavy stuff. Can't beat the price. I moved a heavy engine from the hanger to the house for about 23$. I timed the use of the truck with some heavy item I purchased from Home Depo..I recall I purchased a pallet of mulch last spring; really didn't need the mulch, but I needed the engine home and the mulch was heavy enough to rent the truck from Home Depo. ...................repost.................... Shipping Broker Idea............................. Occasionally, those of us in the Homebuilt Aircraft world, find a need to ship something too large or heavy to send by UPS. Then you start calling Freight Companies only to find that the charges are more than what the item being shipped cost. I thought I would relate my experience with this and offer some tips to make the process more bearable for others. I bought my Corvair engine from a guy in New Hampshire. Since it weighs somewhere between 250-300 pounds with the pallet, I knew UPS wasn't going to touch it. My first call to a Freight Company yielded a quote of $500. They also acted like I was bothering them with my request for a residential shipment. I made a couple of other calls that didn't go much better. A web search turned up some companies that are Freight Brokers. "What the heck is a Freight Broker?" was my first question. Apparently, they are like a travel agent for freight. Since they deal with many shipments a day, versus the few we do in a lifetime, they get a discount and we don't. I guess this is going to turn out as an advertisement, but I don't mind blowing someone's horn if I'm happy with their service/product. I ended up using Freight Quote to arrange my shipping. Wylie Yates was my advisor with this and he helped me get the cost down to $190. Wylie's number is 800-323-5441 ext. 1761. If you call him, let him know that Randy Stout told you about Freight Quote. BTW, I get nothing for this. I just told him that if I were happy with everything, I would put the word out. One of the biggest money savers in shipping is to get away from the Residential to Residential shipment. Some of these guys charge over $100 just to go to a residence. It's even more if they have to have a lift on the truck. That's $100 + on both ends if it's residential to residential. I think the best deal is to drop off and pick up at the terminal. Even if you are ordering your kit from Zenith or another business, you can request a terminal pick up. This is great if you have a pickup (if it will fit) or a trailer. They will usually load it in the truck for you at the terminal. A case of beer and a few friends will usually get it off the truck later. Uhh, don't bring out the beer until they get the truck unloaded. If you don't have a truck or trailer, and can't find someone to loan you one, check out Home Depot. Most of them have a flat bed truck you can rent by the hour for $20 or so. Even U-haul is cheaper than a residential delivery


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    Time: 07:01:53 AM PST US
    From: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net>
    Subject: poker run
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net> POKER RUN When: Saturday, March 13th, 2004 8am =96 12 noon Where: Bessemer, AL (EKY) Who: Bessemer Pilots Association Cost: $10.00 The Bessemer Pilots Association will be having a March Poker Run. The event is open to any and all interested. The airports of the Poker Run will be: Pell City (PLR 2.98) (Sammies restaurant) Hartselle (5M0 2.05) Cullman (3A1 2.25) Jasper (JFX 2.76) Bessemer (EKY 2.87) You may start at any airport, but you MUST end at Bessemer. At each airport, stop by the FBO and pickup a card and sign the airport=92s Poker Run Log. When you turn in your cards at Bessemer, you can pay the $10 registration fee which includes lunch. All proceeds will be placed in a pot which will be awarded to the pilot with the best hand. Pilots are encouraged to bring a friend and introduce them to the joys of General Aviation. They may register for a hand as well, but all players are limited to one (1) hand. For questions, email Glenn Wilson at pilot@ekybpa.org or check out our website at: http://www.ekybpa.org/ Jason Sneed Commercial Lending Officer First National Bank and Trust www.highland-parks.com/n242ds/


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    Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Used Monroy ATD-200 anti collision units.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> OK, gang seems the Beech list has got together and set a price of $300 per unit. If you are still interested, let me know off the list and I'll put you in touch with the seller. Seems I got a good deal at $225:-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive


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    Time: 08:03:08 AM PST US
    From: DWENSING@aol.com
    Subject: RV6 slider defrosters
    --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com to the 6 slider drivers...especially in the Northern climates. Have some "muffin" fans that I purchased a couple of years ago that were intended for installation in the top forward skin just aft of the windscreen on my 6 slider for clearing the windscreen on cold days. Have the wiring etc.finished and will soon be putting the top forward skin on. Now am flip/flopping on the need for the fans. Would appreciate comments/advise on the merits of putting the in the fans. Dale Ensing


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    Time: 09:11:04 AM PST US
    From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
    Subject: RV-7A Painter needed
    --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Is there an experienced RV painter in the Indianapolis or Northern Indiana area who would like the job of painting my RV-7A? It has not flown yet, and I can bring you all the parts on a trailer. Dan Hopper (located near Grissom ARB in North Central IN)


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    Time: 11:05:30 AM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Backpacks and coolers at SNF
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> Gang, below is a cut and paste from a representative of SNF. I was told on the phone backpacks will be allowed after all, just subject to search. The issue of coolers does pose a problem. In years past, and this year, I am flying in with two friends in a Bonanza. We will be parking in classic near the warbirds. We won't have room for a large cooler so we always rent a car and drive to the store where we buy a cooler and food for the stay. So now, instead of returning the rental car to the lot across from the main gate and going through the main gate, we have to lug everything to "camper registration" (long, long way) or drive and drop off then "thumb" one's way to camper registration, ride across the place on multiple tractor wagons or just say the heck with it, SNF wins. Time for a little more planning gang. I wonder if the on site store is going to have a boat load full of disposable coolers. I guess we could always pitch a passenger out:-) Greg, thanks for your reply. It's just not what I wanted to hear. What are "camping credentials"? The only thing we get is the parking permit for the airplane (stays on the glare shield) and the sticker that stays on the tent. Greg Harbaugh <gharbaugh@sun-n-fun.org> Sent : Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:06 AM To : "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> Subject : RE: Coolers through the main gate. | | | Inbox Okay Dana, I'ved talked this around and here's where we are: 1. Coolers are not permitted through the front gate. 2. Coolers are permitted in the campground. If someone comes in via aircraft, they may go offsite and purchase a cooler and bring it in via the Drane Field (north side) camper registration entrance. They must provide proof that they are camping (their camping credentials) to bring the cooler in. Again, hope this helps. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive >From: Hopperdhh@aol.com >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: RV-7A Painter needed >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:09:33 EST > >--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > >Is there an experienced RV painter in the Indianapolis or Northern Indiana >area who would like the job of painting my RV-7A? It has not flown yet, >and I >can bring you all the parts on a trailer. >Dan Hopper (located near Grissom ARB in North Central IN) > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 12:50:15 PM PST US
    From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
    Subject: Alternate pitot location (was [Fwd: RE: [BD4] Heated Pitot] )
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> Thought this might be of interest as a backup pitot location. The cooling plenum location has been tested by a RV repeat offender & it worked for him. Since it works on more than one airframe, I thought it worth mentioning. I'll let him chime in if he's willing. Charlie -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [BD4] Heated Pitot From: Steve Mahoney <mahoney@viclink.com> <bd4@northwest-aero.com> Craig, In regards to Pitot heat.I built one that consumes no electrical power. I too had some of the same concerns about the current draw and running those big heavy wires that far out on the wing. Besides that, those heated pitot tubes are big and add drag. I too fly IFR (some) I pick my battles very carefully as the BD is a hand full for me in actual conditions and I really don;t have that much IFR time in it yet. I < snipped> Enough story ........and on to the details of problem solving ..... I noted some time back that when I was doing cooling tests, I installed a small pitot tube in the front right air inlet to make some pressure measurements and this location mapped almost perfectly to my airspeed indicator, even at slow speed and high angles of attack. So I made one out of brass, as this conducts heat very well and stuck it between the fins on the forward cylinder. I have a small switch so I can select the airspeed indicator source from either the heated Cylinder or the pitot tube on the wing. It works well for me as my air inlets are oversized and thus map to the airspeed indicator fairly closely. Consumes no Juice . I will try the post a copy of pictures of this on the web at bd-4.org Steve Mahoney


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    Time: 02:27:30 PM PST US
    From: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Audio Isolation Amplifier in my intercom system
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net> Listers: I built and installed the monophonic version of the Audio Isolation Amplifier that was designed by Bob Knuckolls. I connected its output to the input of my Flightcom intercom. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work for me. Has anyone out there built the monophonic version with success? Can anyone tell me how I can troubleshoot it to see what is wrong? Thanks, Jordan Grant RV-6 wiring N198G Reserved


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    Time: 04:13:39 PM PST US
    From: BillRVSIX@aol.com
    Subject: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question.
    --> RV-List message posted by: BillRVSIX@aol.com Hello IM in need of some help I have installed the Gretz Aero electric elevator trim kit and I can't get the correct throw in the elevator trim tab. As per van's instructions I need 35 Degrees up and 25 down the best I can seem to do is 20 up and 15 down I have played around with different size horns but with little luck. I went threw the archive's and saw others with the same problem but didn't see a solution to solve the problem. If someone has come up with a solution for this problem or tell me what I might of missed I would appreciate it. Thanks Bill H RV-6


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    Time: 04:17:11 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: RV6 slider defrosters
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > to the 6 slider drivers...especially in the Northern climates. > > Have some "muffin" fans that I purchased a couple of years > ago that were > intended for installation in the top forward skin just aft of > the windscreen on my > 6 slider for clearing the windscreen on cold days. Have the wiring > etc.finished and will soon be putting the top forward skin > on. Now am flip/flopping on > the need for the fans. Would appreciate comments/advise on > the merits of > putting the in the fans. > Dale Ensing Dale, put them in. I find that they are necessary when the temp is below 10F, particularly when there are two souls on board. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 443 hours http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 04:45:58 PM PST US
    From: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Audio Isolation Amplifier in my intercom
    system --> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net> Disregard all of the above. Like magic, once I post a message asking for help, I find the answer myself. Just had some wires crossed. Jordan Grant Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jordan Grant Subject: AeroElectric-List: Audio Isolation Amplifier in my intercom system --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net> Listers: I built and installed the monophonic version of the Audio Isolation Amplifier that was designed by Bob Knuckolls. I connected its output to the input of my Flightcom intercom. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work for me. Has anyone out there built the monophonic version with success? Can anyone tell me how I can troubleshoot it to see what is wrong? Thanks, Jordan Grant RV-6 wiring N198G Reserved


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    Time: 05:05:48 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Nellis" <mike@bmnellis.com>
    Subject: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Nellis" <mike@bmnellis.com> There is no reason for the travel to change since you are using the same servo. The only thing that comes to mind is the hole in the elevator spar for the cable. As the elevator moves up and down, is the cable binding and hitting the hole opening as it moves? I recall having that problem when Installing mine some time ago and had to elongate the hole for it to work properly. Mike Nellis RV-6 Fuselage N699BM 1947 Stinson 108-2 NC9666K http://bmnellis.com *** -----Original Message----- *** From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com *** [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of *** BillRVSIX@aol.com *** Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:12 PM *** To: rv-list@matronics.com *** Subject: RV-List: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question. *** *** *** --> RV-List message posted by: BillRVSIX@aol.com *** *** Hello IM in need of some help I have installed the Gretz *** Aero electric *** elevator trim kit and I can't get the correct throw in the *** elevator trim tab. As per *** van's instructions I need 35 Degrees up and 25 down the *** best I can seem to do *** is 20 up and 15 down I have played around with different *** size horns but with *** little luck. I went threw the archive's and saw others with *** the same problem *** but didn't see a solution to solve the problem. If someone *** has come up with a *** solution for this problem or tell me what I might of missed *** I would appreciate *** it. Thanks *** *** Bill H *** *** RV-6 *** *** *** ============== *** Matronics Forums. *** ============== *** ============== *** ============== *** *** *** *** *** *** ***


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    Time: 05:10:58 PM PST US
    From: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
    Subject: Re: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question.
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com> Hmmmmm those values sound like the ones for the elevator, not the elevator trim tab. haven't seen actual rec's for the *trim tab* Gert BillRVSIX@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: BillRVSIX@aol.com > > Hello IM in need of some help I have installed the Gretz Aero electric > elevator trim kit and I can't get the correct throw in the elevator trim tab. As per > van's instructions I need 35 Degrees up and 25 down the best I can seem to do > is 20 up and 15 down I have played around with different size horns but with > little luck. I went threw the archive's and saw others with the same problem > but didn't see a solution to solve the problem. If someone has come up with a > solution for this problem or tell me what I might of missed I would appreciate > it. Thanks > > Bill H > > RV-6 > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500


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    Time: 05:31:38 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
    Subject: RV6 slider defrosters
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com> Alex: Where did you mount your fans?? I am considering mounting mine just under the top forward skin just aft of the windscreen, but I am concerned about the magnets in the motors. Can I assume that even if you have one on each side of a possible compass mounted on the rollbar support and equal distances from the midline of the airplane, that there still would be some trouble with compass errors? This brings up another question..... Does the compass heading readout in the Dynon satisfy the Feds regarding the compass requirement? Thanks in advance Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A panel Peshtigo, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV6 slider defrosters > --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > > > to the 6 slider drivers...especially in the Northern climates. > > > > Have some "muffin" fans that I purchased a couple of years > > ago that were > > intended for installation in the top forward skin just aft of > > the windscreen on my > > 6 slider for clearing the windscreen on cold days. Have the wiring > > etc.finished and will soon be putting the top forward skin > > on. Now am flip/flopping on > > the need for the fans. Would appreciate comments/advise on > > the merits of > > putting the in the fans. > > Dale Ensing > > Dale, put them in. I find that they are necessary when the temp is > below 10F, particularly when there are two souls on board. > > Alex Peterson > Maple Grove, MN > RV6-A N66AP 443 hours > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ > >


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    Time: 05:55:08 PM PST US
    From: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: RV6 slider defrosters
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mb.sympatico.ca> I'd recommend them for sure. I wouldn't be comfortable flying in cold weather without some kind of defroster, and that's just with one person on board. They're fairly light and they don't cost much. They work very well in simple "freestanding" mode like most people install them - you don't really need to duct any heat to them. I generally still leave the canopy cracked until I'm warmed up and ready for taxi. I keep the vent open a bit as well just to keep lots of airflow until I'm airborne. Once in the air the canopy clears right up and the fans aren't even required, though I still keep them on. Coldest flight so far -29F. I don't know how long they will last though. Mine are from the surplus store and don't sound as healthy as they used to. I think they were designed for the easy life of a heated office, and here we are using them in a cold airplane, pulling 6Gs with a shaky 'ol Lyc up front. Mine are still working so far. Curt ----- Original Message ----- From: <DWENSING@aol.com> Subject: RV-List: RV6 slider defrosters > --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com > > to the 6 slider drivers...especially in the Northern climates. > > Have some "muffin" fans that I purchased a couple of years ago that were > intended for installation in the top forward skin just aft of the windscreen on my > 6 slider for clearing the windscreen on cold days. Have the wiring > etc.finished and will soon be putting the top forward skin on. Now am flip/flopping on > the need for the fans. Would appreciate comments/advise on the merits of > putting the in the fans. > Dale Ensing > >


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    Time: 07:15:11 PM PST US
    From: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com> 25 Degrees TAB UP travel.....................35 Degrees TAB DOWN Travel The manual trim TAB geometery is diffrent than Electric trim. Distance from the hindge pin to the Linkage atachment hole is shorter for electric trim. Check for linkage interferrence and proper alignment of the trim servo motor. John D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gert" <gert@execpc.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Gretz Electric elevator trim Travel question. > --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com> > > Hmmmmm > > those values sound like the ones for the elevator, not the elevator trim > tab. haven't seen actual rec's for the *trim tab* > > Gert > > BillRVSIX@aol.com wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: BillRVSIX@aol.com > > > > Hello IM in need of some help I have installed the Gretz Aero electric > > elevator trim kit and I can't get the correct throw in the elevator trim tab. As per > > van's instructions I need 35 Degrees up and 25 down the best I can seem to do > > is 20 up and 15 down I have played around with different size horns but with > > little luck. I went threw the archive's and saw others with the same problem > > but didn't see a solution to solve the problem. If someone has come up with a > > solution for this problem or tell me what I might of missed I would appreciate > > it. Thanks > > > > Bill H > > > > RV-6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 > > > >


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    Time: 09:11:52 PM PST US
    From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: RV 10 Tail cone top skins
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net> Hi Bruce: If I was twenty years younger, it would be an option but now it will not happen. I said that when the 6A was finished that would be my last project. That all changed when I had the opportunity to fly the RV 10 at Van's Homecoming. I asked myself "why are you considering building the 10", well after flying it I knew that if I didn't I would be regretting it for the rest of my life. When I received my emp- tail cone kit and started to work on it I realized that this was going to be a joy to build. After building two slow builds the difference is unbelievable, the way it all goes together with the pre-punching and such a great manual I look forward to heading to the shop every morning, it almost feels like I am cheating. Anyway hoping my health holds out and energy keeps up it would be a great way to celebrate my eighty-first birthday next year by flying the 10 on that day. Eustace ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBreckenridge@att.net> Subject: RV-List: RE: RV 10 Tail cone top skins > --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > > Mr. Bowhay; > > Why do I get this feeling that your "10" will have a set of floats???!!! > > Bruce Breckenridge > 40018 > >


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    Time: 09:52:34 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: Dynon/Trio report
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> http://www.miramarcollege.net/programs/avim/faculty/north/gauges/index.htm is a simple website I made of a GNS 430, a Dynon D-10 and the Trio EZ pilot shooting a localizer approach in really gusty conditions. The Dynon D-10 is displaying the OAT screen with the OAT/Density Altitude/True Airspeed data on the left info screen. The OAT probe needed no offset factor as it read right on with the offset at zero. I'll need to fly it a while in smoother air to see if the TAS is similar to the steam gauge. It seemed a little off today, but I was really getting keel hauled up there today. The pics also show the GPS having some inaccuracies compared to a localizer. W


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    Time: 11:02:55 PM PST US
    From: "GMC" <gmcnutt@uniserve.com>
    Subject: Dynon/Trio report
    --> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@uniserve.com> - --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> http://www.miramarcollege.net/programs/avim/faculty/north/gauges/index.htm is a simple website I made of a GNS 430, a Dynon D-10 and the Trio EZ pilot shooting a localizer approach in really gusty conditions. The Dynon D-10 is displaying the OAT screen with the OAT/Density Altitude/True Airspeed data on the left info screen. The OAT probe needed no offset factor as it read right on with the offset at zero. I'll need to fly it a while in smoother air to see if the TAS is similar to the steam gauge. It seemed a little off today, but I was really getting keel hauled up there today. The pics also show the GPS having some inaccuracies compared to a localizer. ------------ Hi Wheeler Nice report & pictures, and appreciated by other IFR pilots. However not sure I agree with your assessment that the GPS is off & not the localizer. Looking at the hills in your final approach pictures it is possible that the localizer is deflected slightly. My understanding is that some deflection/bending is possible with localizer, glide slope and VOR. We have some deflection at a local airport and it is so subtle that most pilots would not notice. do not archive George in Langley ---


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    Time: 11:24:05 PM PST US
    From: "Jim and Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing Attach Questions...
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim and Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com> You need one and one half threads showing past the nut. BTW, an easy way to get the bolts in is to use a rivet gun with a smooth set to drive them in. It beats hammering on them and they go right in. Jim Cone 3-peat offender




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