RV-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/11/04


Total Messages Posted: 30



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:01 AM - Gretz trim servo travel (jakent@unison.ie)
     2. 02:07 AM - Gretz trim Mod (addendum) (jakent@unison.ie)
     3. 06:07 AM - Re: Dynon/Trio report (Larry Bowen)
     4. 06:54 AM - NAS1097AD3-3.5 rivets (Ken Simmons)
     5. 07:34 AM - Re: NAS1097AD3-3.5 rivets (Dan Checkoway)
     6. 08:18 AM - N8WV Upgrades... (Bill VonDane)
     7. 08:42 AM - Shipping kits from Van's (David Carter)
     8. 09:31 AM - Non-RV related Hanger related (Jason Sneed)
     9. 10:03 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (SportAV8R@aol.com)
    10. 10:03 AM - Re: Shipping kits from Van's (Sam Buchanan)
    11. 11:30 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (linn walters)
    12. 02:18 PM - Carson City Fly-in (BRUCE GRAY)
    13. 02:28 PM - gps (Wheeler North)
    14. 02:39 PM - Transponder antenna (Dana Overall)
    15. 03:21 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (C. Rabaut)
    16. 03:40 PM - Re: gps (Laird Owens)
    17. 03:53 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
    18. 04:05 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Darwin N. Barrie)
    19. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: RV 10 Tail cone top skins (Emrath)
    20. 04:08 PM - RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size (Emrath)
    21. 04:13 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Ross Mickey)
    22. 04:22 PM - Re: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV6 slider defrosters  (Alex Peterson)
    23. 04:31 PM - weight and balance (Dan Checkoway)
    24. 05:52 PM - Re: weight and balance (Randy Richter)
    25. 05:56 PM - Re: weight and balance (Randy Richter)
    26. 06:38 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (C. Rabaut)
    27. 07:00 PM - EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting (John Wiegenstein)
    28. 07:16 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Cy Galley)
    29. 07:31 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Stein Bruch)
    30. 07:44 PM - Re: weight and balance (Richard E. Tasker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:01:23 AM PST US
    From: jakent@unison.ie
    Subject: Gretz trim servo travel
    --> RV-List message posted by: jakent@unison.ie The trim tab horn is shorter for the electric trim. Remember the servo only has 1.2 inch travel and the cable travels more than this with the manual trim. If, as in my case, changing he horn is too much metal butchery, then do as I did and instal a ratio arm (lever) between the servo and cable end. On my RV-4 it let me get full tab travel and also let me reverse the direction of the servo to make a neater installation. Just do the maths for the correct lever ratios. John Kent (Ireland)


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    Time: 02:07:05 AM PST US
    From: jakent@unison.ie
    Subject: Gretz trim Mod (addendum)
    --> RV-List message posted by: jakent@unison.ie Almost forgot to mention - getting full travel by the ratio lever will speed up the tab movement - not what you want at flaps-up speeds - you will need one of Matt's governors (or similar) to slow things down in the high speed regime. Good luck ! John Kent.


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    Time: 06:07:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dynon/Trio report
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> Nice. Is the OAT available now or are you a beta tester? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Wheeler North said: > --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> > > http://www.miramarcollege.net/programs/avim/faculty/north/gauges/index.htm > > is a simple website I made of a GNS 430, a Dynon D-10 and the Trio EZ > pilot > shooting a localizer approach in really gusty conditions. > > The Dynon D-10 is displaying the OAT screen with the OAT/Density > Altitude/True Airspeed data on the left info screen. > > The OAT probe needed no offset factor as it read right on with the offset > at > zero. I'll need to fly it a while in smoother air to see if the TAS is > similar to the steam gauge. It seemed a little off today, but I was really > getting keel hauled up there today. > > The pics also show the GPS having some inaccuracies compared to a > localizer. > > W


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    Time: 06:54:09 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
    Subject: NAS1097AD3-3.5 rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> I'm hoping someone in the Boise, ID area has some of these I could pinch or maybe knows a local source for them. I need them for the weekend and sure don't want to ship them next day. I'm not sure if Van's even carries them anymore. They don't show up in the on-line catalog (only the 4's), but they are still on "the-list". Thanks. Ken DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:34:37 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: NAS1097AD3-3.5 rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/parts.txt NAS1097AD3-3 RIVETS (LB) $27.31 NAS1097AD3-3.5 RIVETS (LB) $27.00 NAS1097AD3-4 RIVETS (LB) $23.25 NAS1097AD3-6 RIVETS (LB) $26.95 NAS1097AD4-3.5 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $17.20 NAS1097AD4-4 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $17.00 NAS1097AD4-5 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $15.00 NAS1097AD4-6 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $17.00 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> Subject: RV-List: NAS1097AD3-3.5 rivets > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com> > > I'm hoping someone in the Boise, ID area has some of these I could pinch or maybe knows a local source for them. I need them for the weekend and sure don't want to ship them next day. > > I'm not sure if Van's even carries them anymore. They don't show up in the on-line catalog (only the 4's), but they are still on "the-list". > > Thanks. > Ken > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 08:18:12 AM PST US
    From: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: N8WV Upgrades...
    vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> I've just updated my upgrades page if anyone is interested: http://www.vondane.com/rv8a/finish/finish13.htm Got my new panel back from Ross at Experimental Air - www.experimentalair.com, and it looks great! -Bill VonDane EAA Tech Counselor RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs www.vondane.com www.creativair.com www.epanelbuilder.com


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    Time: 08:42:20 AM PST US
    From: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
    Subject: Shipping kits from Van's
    --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> I signed up on the Freight Quote website last night ( www.freightquote.com ) and entered the 320# wt and 97"X48"X28" of my RV-6 Finish Kit, used "Freight class of 150 (whatever that is). Went thru the "free quote" routine and noted cost - looked good. I got an e-mail last night saying I'd get a call today. This morning I received a call from one of their reps, Jim Siders, 1-800-323-5441, Ext 1812, and we settled on "Van's dock to my residence" for $370 (instead of $395 to a terminal 10 miles away) . Job will be done by Bullet Freight. Van's would have used ABF and shipped "Van's to ABF Terminal" 10 miles from my house for $395 and I'd have to scrounge a truck or trailer to pick the crate up at the terminal and unload at my house. So, I save a litle bit in money and save more in time and effort by having it come direct to my home. I would have done terminal to terminal and saved even more except that Bullet has no terminal in my area. The next lowest price from Freight Quote was SAIA. They have a terminal here and would have charged $354 for "Van's to terminal" with me picking up at terminal. Would have saved me only $16 over Bullet bringing it to my door - not worth the extra work by me. I made final payment Monday, Van's was posting payments today, and will put my kit out for crating later today to be ready for pickup next week. Barbara has no problem with us choosing our own shipping company. She just needs a name & number to call to request pickup. I paid Freight Quote today. Very little effort or time spent. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "pcondon" <pcondon@mitre.org> Subject: RV-List: RV-List Digest Shipping Heavy stuff - Good idea (Cheap way to ship & Move heavy items) > --> RV-List message posted by: "pcondon" <pcondon@mitre.org> > <snip> > I ended up > using Freight Quote to arrange my shipping. <snip>. Wylie's number is > 800-323-5441 ext. 1761. If you call him, let him know that Randy Stout told > you about Freight Quote. BTW, I get nothing for this. I just told him that > if I were happy with everything, I would put the word out. >


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    Time: 09:31:29 AM PST US
    From: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net>
    Subject: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net> I am thinking about buying a 3000 square foot hanger and I was wondering if you guys that know something about metal buildings could give me a price per square foot for metal buildings. It has the more expensive electric folding door. I am just looking for an estimate. It is built on concrete and has a slab in front of the hanger also. Thanks Jason Sneed RV-6 (may be getting a new home)


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    Time: 10:03:35 AM PST US
    From: SportAV8R@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com In a message dated 3/11/2004 12:30:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, n242ds@cox.net writes: > I am thinking about buying a 3000 square foot hanger Dude, you must have an enormous trench coat to put on that hanger! Seriously, my neighbor's hangar door is electric bifold and cost more than my RV-6A complete kit did back in '94. I don't remember exact figures, but those puppies are worth some serious bucks. They're also interesting to operate if the power is out ;-) I hear 50x100 foot metal buildings being advertized all the time for around 19k, but I am sure shipping and erection add considerably to the cost, not to mention the concrete floor, wiring, and other amenities. Seems like hangars are scarce these days, and probably an excellent investment when at the right location. -Bill B owner of humble but effective homebuilt metal hangar on sod strip.


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    Time: 10:03:35 AM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Shipping kits from Van's
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> David Carter wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> > > I signed up on the Freight Quote website last night ( www.freightquote.com ) > and entered the 320# wt and 97"X48"X28" of my RV-6 Finish Kit, used "Freight > class of 150 (whatever that is). Went thru the "free quote" routine and > noted cost - looked good. I got an e-mail last night saying I'd get a call > today. This morning I received a call from one of their reps, Jim Siders, > 1-800-323-5441, Ext 1812, and we settled on "Van's dock to my residence" for > $370 (instead of $395 to a terminal 10 miles away) . Job will be done by > Bullet Freight. <snip> Freight Quote has been used quite a bit with mostly good outcomes for shipping several of the StalkerV6 car kits. By the way, my new cruise missile is now running! http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/stalkerv6 Sam Buchanan (RV-6, 552 hrs)


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    Time: 11:30:22 AM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> Jason Sneed wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net> > >I am thinking about buying a 3000 square foot hanger and I was >wondering if you guys that know something about metal buildings could >give me a price per square foot for metal buildings. It has the more >expensive electric folding door. I am just looking for an estimate. It >is built on concrete and has a slab in front of the hanger also. > >Thanks > > >Jason Sneed >RV-6 (may be getting a new home) > I'm building a new house and workshop. The workshop is 30X80, 40' electric bifold door and insulation. Cost is 23,480 or about $9.78/sq foot ...... not including slab! Linn do not archive > > > >


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    Time: 02:18:10 PM PST US
    From: "BRUCE GRAY" <brucerv84us@hotmail.com>
    dan@rvproject.com, rv7boy@yahoo.com, drwalker@powernet.net, jhallrv4@comcast.net, n1cxo320@salidaco.com, klaus@yosemite.net, RV-List@matronics.com, mikesrv6@yahoo.com, rosales@bigfoot.com, randy@rv-8.com, n667sr@comcast.net
    Subject: Carson City Fly-in
    --> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" <brucerv84us@hotmail.com> I have just received the final information on the rooms available for our fly-in. The Pinion Plaza Resort 1-877-519 -5567 is $89.00 a night + 10% tax on top. Carson Station Hotel (6 rooms avail.) 1-800-501-2929 is $66.00 a night + tax on top. When making reservations state that you are a guest with the EAA Chapter 403 Fly-in. Suites are also available at the Pinion but start at $112.00 a night if you wish. These rates will be in effect Mar. 15th through Apr. 8th after that they will go to the public and at a higher rate. Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as


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    Time: 02:28:41 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: gps
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> Hi Wheeler Nice report & pictures, and appreciated by other IFR pilots. However not sure I agree with your assessment that the GPS is off & not the localizer. Looking at the hills in your final approach pictures it is possible that the localizer is deflected slightly. My understanding is that some deflection/bending is possible with localizer, glide slope and VOR. We have some deflection at a local airport and it is so subtle that most pilots would not notice. do not archive George in Langley George, Not sure what is up, but I have flown this approach a bunch of times. If I fly the localizer I stay right on the runway centerline, if I fly the GPS track I stay to the right of centerline. On a good day this puts me right between the runway centerline and the right side of the runway if I were to continue to touch down, which ain't bad for a low cost autopilot. And the GPS antenna is on the AC centerline. The few other approaches I have flown with this system don't seem to do this, so I don't think its the plane??? But, I are just a dumb piolet, so... this opinion is worth what ya paid for. ;{) do not archive


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    Time: 02:39:40 PM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Transponder antenna
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> I've checked the archives and can't find a whole lot. Is there any real difference between the TED el cheapo transponder antennas and the more expensive variety. Laying wire, need some antennas. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive


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    Time: 03:21:39 PM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> I'm moving "away" from big government... -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000 -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300 -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once during construction) $6,900 -lots of work (no marketable value) $ 0 -tons of other odds & ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000 ------------------------------------------------- ---------------- -having your own private dirt strip "priceless" do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related > --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> > > Jason Sneed wrote: > > >--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net> > > > >I am thinking about buying a 3000 square foot hanger and I was > >wondering if you guys that know something about metal buildings could > >give me a price per square foot for metal buildings. It has the more > >expensive electric folding door. I am just looking for an estimate. It > >is built on concrete and has a slab in front of the hanger also. > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Jason Sneed > >RV-6 (may be getting a new home) > > > I'm building a new house and workshop. The workshop is 30X80, 40' > electric bifold door and insulation. Cost is 23,480 or about $9.78/sq > foot ...... not including slab! > Linn > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:40:06 PM PST US
    From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
    Subject: Re: gps
    --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> I see a similar thing in my RV (w/ 430). The VOR checks right on at the local VOR checkpoint, but on approach it's 2 or 3 degrees off the GPS guidance...Of COURSE I use the VOR indication.....;-) I figure it's no big deal. Maybe it has to do with us taildraggers and the VOR check in the tail down attitude.....<grin> "Hello Garmin.....where do I adjust my 430 to compensate for the nose high attitude of my taildragger during a VOR check?" That would have them scratching their head. Laird RV-6 SoCal >--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> > >Hi Wheeler > >Nice report & pictures, and appreciated by other IFR pilots. > >However not sure I agree with your assessment that the GPS is off & not the >localizer. >Looking at the hills in your final approach pictures it is possible that the >localizer is deflected slightly. My understanding is that some >deflection/bending is possible with localizer, glide slope and VOR. We have >some deflection at a local airport and it is so subtle that most pilots >would not notice. > >do not archive > >George in Langley > >George, > >Not sure what is up, but I have flown this approach a bunch of times. If I >fly the localizer I stay right on the runway centerline, if I fly the GPS >track I stay to the right of centerline. On a good day this puts me right >between the runway centerline and the right side of the runway if I were to >continue to touch down, which ain't bad for a low cost autopilot. And the >GPS antenna is on the AC centerline. > >The few other approaches I have flown with this system don't seem to do >this, so I don't think its the plane??? But, I are just a dumb piolet, >so... this opinion is worth what ya paid for. ;{) > >do not archive > >


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    Time: 03:53:58 PM PST US
    From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Grass seed $2500.00 In a message dated 3/11/04 6:22:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, crabaut@coalinga.com writes: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> > > I'm moving "away" from big government... > > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000 > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300 > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once > during construction) > $6,900 > -lots of work (no marketable value) $ > 0 > -tons of other odds &ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000 > ------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > -having your own private dirt strip > "priceless" > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> >


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    Time: 04:05:30 PM PST US
    From: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Transponder antenna
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net> According to John Stark, only the price. I went for the el'cheapo. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> Subject: RV-List: Transponder antenna > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> > > I've checked the archives and can't find a whole lot. Is there any real > difference between the TED el cheapo transponder antennas and the more > expensive variety. > > > Laying wire, need some antennas. > > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg > do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:05:53 PM PST US
    From: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: RV 10 Tail cone top skins
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net> Wow, I'm impressed. I hope to just be able to "fog a mirror" when I reach 80!! Go for it Eustace. Will this be on Float? Marty in Brentwood TN (still can't seem to get my first project airborne) Time: 09:11:52 PM PST US From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: RV 10 Tail cone top skins --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net> Hi Bruce: If I was twenty years younger, it would be an option but now it will not happen. I said that when the 6A was finished that would be my last project. That all changed when I had the opportunity to fly the RV 10 at Van's Homecoming. I asked myself "why are you considering building the 10", well after flying it I knew that if I didn't I would be regretting it for the rest of my life. When I received my emp- tail cone kit and started to work on it I realized that this was going to be a joy to build. After building two slow builds the difference is unbelievable, the way it all goes together with the pre-punching and such a great manual I look forward to heading to the shop every morning, it almost feels like I am cheating. Anyway hoping my health holds out and energy keeps up it would be a great way to celebrate my eighty-first birthday next year by flying the 10 on that day. Eustace ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBreckenridge@att.net> Subject: RV-List: RE: RV 10 Tail cone top skins > --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > > Mr. Bowhay; > > Why do I get this feeling that your "10" will have a set of floats???!!! > > Bruce Breckenridge > 40018 > >


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    Time: 04:08:01 PM PST US
    From: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
    Subject: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net> Anyone, know if these inlets and plenum will these work on a -6 and does Dave have a web site to view these? Marty in Brentwood TN Time: 06:34:55 AM PST US From: John <aflyer@direcway.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size --> RV-List message posted by: John Huft <aflyer@direcway.com> Call Dave Anders at (559) 627-3375. He has it all worked out and sells the machined rings for each size engine. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Fogerson Subject: RV-List: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size --> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net> Hi Listers, I'm considering using round cowl inlets and an aluminum plenum on my RV3 with an 0320. Does anyone know the proper dia. of a round inlet and how this compares to the size/area of Van's std oblong inlet. Thanks, Rick Fogerson RV3 engine baffling Boise, ID


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    Time: 04:13:54 PM PST US
    From: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com> Is the hanger a kit? Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> > > I'm moving "away" from big government... > > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000 > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300 > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once > during construction) > $6,900 > -lots of work (no marketable value) $ > 0 > -tons of other odds & ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000 > ------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > -having your own private dirt strip > "priceless"


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    Time: 04:22:30 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: RV6 slider defrosters
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > Alex: > > Where did you mount your fans?? I am considering mounting > mine just under the top forward skin just aft of the > windscreen, but I am concerned about the magnets in the > motors. Can I assume that even if you have one on each side > of a possible compass mounted on the rollbar support and > equal distances from the midline of the airplane, that there > still would be some trouble with compass errors? I mounted them to the fuse forward top skin, just in front of the instrument panel. It took a little creativity to cram them in amongst the avionics, but it worked out. Don't know about the effect upon the compass, which is in the right panel. One of these days I'll swing it. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 443 hours http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 04:31:24 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: weight and balance
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> http://www.rvproject.com/wab.html That's a javascript web form that I now use for weight & balance (CG) calculations. Feel free to steal that HTML file and tweak it according to your own plane's data. The WAP (mobile phone) version is coming soon... I love having more time to code now that the plane is "done." Hehehheh...yeah, right. 8-) )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 05:52:25 PM PST US
    From: Randy Richter <richterrbb@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: weight and balance
    --> RV-List message posted by: Randy Richter <richterrbb@earthlink.net> Hey, Dan, I tried to "Save page as..." and put it somewhere on my mo-sheen; then when I opened that saved file, I could input weights for the passenger, etc., but the matrix to calculate the moments and cg wouldn't work. Any idea why not? Thanks! Randy BTW, I tried to send you a note and some pictures (of me in Thule, Greenland, and Honduras) and got a reply that the files were too big. Any other address I can send them to, or should I try to shrink 'em somehow? Dan Checkoway wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > >http://www.rvproject.com/wab.html > >That's a javascript web form that I now use for weight & balance (CG) >calculations. Feel free to steal that HTML file and tweak it according to >your own plane's data. > >The WAP (mobile phone) version is coming soon... > >I love having more time to code now that the plane is "done." >Hehehheh...yeah, right. 8-) > >)_( Dan >RV-7 N714D >http://www.rvproject.com > > > > -- Randy Richter richterrbb@earthlink.net -7QB Kit in hibernation


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    Time: 05:56:55 PM PST US
    From: Randy Richter <richterrbb@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: weight and balance
    --> RV-List message posted by: Randy Richter <richterrbb@earthlink.net> List, sorry about that last. Forgot to change the email address. Disregard. Do not archive. :-[ :-[ Randy Richter wrote: Hey, Dan, I tried to "Save page as..." and put it <snip> -- Randy Richter richterrbb@earthlink.net -7QB Kit in hibernation


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    Time: 06:38:17 PM PST US
    From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> ... only tumble weeds grow well out here. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related > --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > > > Grass seed $2500.00 > > > In a message dated 3/11/04 6:22:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > crabaut@coalinga.com writes: > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> > > > > I'm moving "away" from big government... > > > > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000 > > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300 > > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once > > during construction) > > $6,900 > > -lots of work (no marketable value) $ > > 0 > > -tons of other odds &ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000 > > ------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------- > > -having your own private dirt strip > > "priceless" > > > > do not archive > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> > > > >


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    Time: 07:00:30 PM PST US
    From: "John Wiegenstein" <n727jw@hellerwiegenstein.com>
    Subject: EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John Wiegenstein" <n727jw@hellerwiegenstein.com> Just an update for those who responded to my earlier inquries re: panel lighting options. After poking around the 'net to see what there was, I ended up ordering an Electroluminescent green tape strip kip from Startech. Here's the link: http://www.mutantmods.com/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=ELTAPEGN I ordered thru Buy.com, for a total cost of about $18. The kit arrived today, with a 4 foot long strip of green EL tape, a nice, compact transformer that runs off 12VDC, and connectors. Mocking it up where my glareshield will be shows that it gives lots of light, in a nice, even, soft green hue. I have the B&C dimmer for the other panel items (avionics) and the dimming curve for them seems to match well with the EL strip. My glareshield overhangs the panel by only about 1.5 inches, and if I had left a longer overhang it would position the EL strip further away from the panel and help give better light towards the bottom of the panel. But, so far it looks like it will be a slick setup for panel lighting, at very low cost, and should give very long life. John Wiegenstein Hansville, WA RV-6 N727JW (reserved)


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    Time: 07:16:24 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Tractor with large deck mover $25,000 <GRIN> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related > --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > > > Grass seed $2500.00 > > > In a message dated 3/11/04 6:22:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > crabaut@coalinga.com writes: > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> > > > > I'm moving "away" from big government... > > > > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000 > > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300 > > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once > > during construction) > > $6,900 > > -lots of work (no marketable value) $ > > 0 > > -tons of other odds &ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000 > > ------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------- > > -having your own private dirt strip > > "priceless" > > > > do not archive > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> > > > >


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    Time: 07:31:05 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: Re: Non-RV related Hanger related
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> "HANGER": Something to hang your clothes on....12 for $1.00 "HANGAR": Something to park your plane in....a LOT more!! Sorry, I couldn't resist! Do Not Archive! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> >--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> > >... only tumble weeds grow well out here. > >do not archive >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com >> >> >> Grass seed $2500.00 >> >> >> In a message dated 3/11/04 6:22:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >> crabaut@coalinga.com writes: >> >> > >> > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> >> > >> > I'm moving "away" from big government... >> > >> > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000 >> > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300 >> > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once >> > during construction) >> > $6,900 >> > -lots of work (no marketable value) $ >> > 0 >> > -tons of other odds &ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000 >> > ------------------------------------------------- >> > ---------------- >> > -having your own private dirt strip >> > "priceless" >> > >> > do not archive >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> >> > >> >> > >


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    Time: 07:44:49 PM PST US
    From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: weight and balance
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> I don't know what browser you are using, but if you can "view page source" then save that it works just fine when opened. Thanks, Dan for this resource! Dick Tasker Randy Richter wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Randy Richter <richterrbb@earthlink.net> > >Hey, Dan, > >I tried to "Save page as..." and put it somewhere on my mo-sheen; then >when I opened that saved file, I could input weights for the passenger, >etc., but the matrix to calculate the moments and cg wouldn't work. > >Any idea why not? > >Thanks! >Randy > > >




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