Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:26 AM - Re: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size (James E. Clark)
2. 01:10 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (KIMSEYCO@aol.com)
3. 04:08 AM - EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting (Donald Mei)
4. 05:19 AM - Re: EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting (Richard Meske)
5. 05:23 AM - Re: gps (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
6. 07:43 AM - SV-2 needed (Frazier, Vincent A)
7. 07:50 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (C. Rabaut)
8. 07:51 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (C. Rabaut)
9. 08:10 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (SportAV8R@aol.com)
10. 08:11 AM - Re: EL Panel/Glare shield Lighting (Stucklen, Frederic IFC)
11. 08:28 AM - Re: EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting (Paul Besing)
12. 08:36 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Nels Hanson)
13. 08:58 AM - F1 QB wings for sale (VFT@aol.com)
14. 09:16 AM - Ugrades Update... (Bill VonDane)
15. 10:15 AM - SV vents found! (Frazier, Vincent A)
16. 10:52 AM - Re: Upgrades Update... (BRUCE GRAY)
17. 10:56 AM - Re: N8WV Upgrades... (Greg Milner)
18. 11:07 AM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (C. Rabaut)
19. 12:36 PM - Re: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV6 slider defrosters (Charles Brame)
20. 02:04 PM - Dave Anders phone number (Rick Fogerson)
21. 03:00 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Larry G RV-7 N697RV)
22. 03:11 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Alex Peterson)
23. 03:56 PM - Re: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV6 slider defrosters (Jim Jewell)
24. 04:13 PM - Re: Carson City Fly-in (kempthornes)
25. 04:37 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related/smoothing the bumps (Nels Hanson)
26. 04:59 PM - Re: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV6 slider defrosters (Jeff Orear)
27. 09:46 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Richard E. Tasker)
28. 09:52 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
29. 10:00 PM - Re: Non-RV related Hanger related (kempthornes)
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| Subject: | RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Will James has inlets and plenum for the six.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Emrath
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:08 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
>
> Anyone, know if these inlets and plenum will these work on a -6 and does
> Dave have a web site to view these?
> Marty in Brentwood TN
>
>
> Time: 06:34:55 AM PST US
> From: John <aflyer@direcway.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: John Huft <aflyer@direcway.com>
>
> Call Dave Anders at (559) 627-3375. He has it all worked out and sells the
> machined rings for each size engine.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Fogerson
> Subject: RV-List: RV3/4 Round cowl inlet size
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net>
>
> Hi Listers,
> I'm considering using round cowl inlets and an aluminum plenum on my RV3
> with an 0320. Does anyone know the proper dia. of a round inlet and how
> this compares to the size/area of Van's std oblong inlet. Thanks, Rick
> Fogerson RV3 engine baffling Boise, ID
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: KIMSEYCO@aol.com
jason, i just completed a metal building hangar that is 70 ft wide by 84 ft
deep and 18 ft at the roof eves. it has a 2/12 roof pitch and a standing seem
roof. the building came to approx 35,000$ not including the hyd door that i
installed that came to about 7,000$. the concrete for mime ran a little high at
about 12,000$. and i have two walk doors and also a 10 x 10 roll up door,
included with hanger price. tom kimsey
warner robins ga. building came from about 10 miles north of valdosta ,Ga. if
i can help with any thing else let me know. tom kimsey ps i did it all -
age 62
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| Subject: | EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
I was wondering if you had tested it with your radios or a handheld radio
on. I seem to remember that the transformers for the electroluminescent
(sp??) lighting can be noisy??
Then on the other hand, for $18 what the heck?
Don
"All of us need to be reminded that the federal government did not create
the states; the states created the federal government!"---Ronald Reagan
Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from bCentral.
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| From: | Richard Meske <rmeske@gcfn.org> (SquirrelMail authenticated user rmeske) by www.gcfn.org with HTTP; Fri, |
12 Mar 2004 08:18:38.-0500@matronics.com (EST)
| Subject: | Re: EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting |
Don,
We sell EL Lighting with inverters. NO one has complained about noise
from our systems to this date. They are designed for low power and low
electromatic radiation. The lights can easily be dimmed as well by varying
the DC to the inverter from the +12V.
GOOD LUCK with your project!
Rich
www.aircraftextras.com
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
>
> I was wondering if you had tested it with your radios or a handheld
> radio on. I seem to remember that the transformers for the
> electroluminescent (sp??) lighting can be noisy??
>
> Then on the other hand, for $18 what the heck?
>
> Don
>
>
> "All of us need to be reminded that the federal government did not
> create the states; the states created the federal
> government!"---Ronald Reagan
>
> Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from
> bCentral.
>
>
--
Rich
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
No I have the sissy wheel and same problem, same rig as Laird.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laird Owens
Subject: Re: RV-List: gps
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
I see a similar thing in my RV (w/ 430). The VOR checks right on at
the local VOR checkpoint, but on approach it's 2 or 3 degrees off the
GPS guidance...Of COURSE I use the VOR indication.....;-)
I figure it's no big deal. Maybe it has to do with us taildraggers
and the VOR check in the tail down attitude.....<grin>
"Hello Garmin.....where do I adjust my 430 to compensate for the nose
high attitude of my taildragger during a VOR check?"
That would have them scratching their head.
Laird RV-6
SoCal
>--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
>Hi Wheeler
>
>Nice report & pictures, and appreciated by other IFR pilots.
>
>However not sure I agree with your assessment that the GPS is off & not
the
>localizer.
>Looking at the hills in your final approach pictures it is possible
that the
>localizer is deflected slightly. My understanding is that some
>deflection/bending is possible with localizer, glide slope and VOR. We
have
>some deflection at a local airport and it is so subtle that most pilots
>would not notice.
>
>do not archive
>
>George in Langley
>
>George,
>
>Not sure what is up, but I have flown this approach a bunch of times.
If I
>fly the localizer I stay right on the runway centerline, if I fly the
GPS
>track I stay to the right of centerline. On a good day this puts me
right
>between the runway centerline and the right side of the runway if I
were to
>continue to touch down, which ain't bad for a low cost autopilot. And
the
>GPS antenna is on the AC centerline.
>
>The few other approaches I have flown with this system don't seem to do
>this, so I don't think its the plane??? But, I are just a dumb piolet,
>so... this opinion is worth what ya paid for. ;{)
>
>do not archive
>
>
==
==
==
==
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Anybody have an extra NEW SV-2 and SV-5 that they aren't gonna use? It's
the black eyeball vent and hose adaptor that Van's sells for $21. I
need an extra one for the rear seater.
Contact me offline if you've got one that's cluttering up your shop.
I'll give you $25. That should cover your shipping. The item must be
new, no holes or paint on it.
Do not archive
Vince Frazier
3965 Caborn Road
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839 work
812-985-7309 home
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Ross,
Yep, she's a "kit". First let me say... "I will never build a Quonset
Hut, Arch style hanger ever again (using only me & one other guy)!". The
reason I say that is due to the level of difficulty & lack of proper
equipment. Me & a retired friend of mine, who wishes to remained
"anonymous", had one heck of a time with this thing. The company says "easy
assembly, no special tools required, etc..." B.S.
Sure, if you have 6 guys and a scaffolding and 2 weeks of perfect weather
then it's "easy assembly".
The basic building consists of individual arches made out of Paper Thin
galvanized steel, about10' x 2'. You bolt 5 of them end to end, then stand
up one huge, wiggly, floppy, awkward, razor sharp, arching noodle that has a
height of about 15' and a span of 40' and is only 2' wide. Now imagine
trying to stabilize that monstrosity, while bolting together another
"section", then standing up the second section, bolting that second wiggling
section to the first one (while keeping them both balanced and trying to get
the bolt holes to line up), and then repeating this process thirty times
until those 2' sections add up to the 60' total length. They don't gain
their strength until completely bolted together and secured to the
foundation (now that she's done of course I can run up one side, jump up &
down on the top, and run down the other side; she is strong).
Sure after several days we got four sections together, balanced & tied
to a borrowed fork lift, then we quit for a day (so we thought). Man were
we proud, it was looking great, even got Polaroid's of the "Before & After"
tragedy strikes. But the weather went south and a storm came through....
picked up those sections and twisted them into beautiful, gigantic, pasta
"tortellini" looking rolls. If we hadn't tied it down as well as we had, I
would've spent time knocking on some farmer's door 20 miles away trying to
explain why my "big noodle" got away and blew into his field.
Long story short (I never make long stories short) we ended up loosing
several pieces and built the hanger narrower. As she stands now, she's 60'
long, 10' high, and only 37' wide.
I strongly recommend building going with a standard "framed" structure
unless you've got plenty of man power, scaffolding, a fork lift, and plan on
"good" weather.
Chuck
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Mickey <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
>
> Is the hanger a kit?
>
> Ross
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> > I'm moving "away" from big government...
> >
> > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip
$25,000
> > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300
> > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once
> > during
construction)
> > $6,900
> > -lots of work (no marketable value) $
> > 0
> > -tons of other odds & ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > ----------------
> > -having your own private dirt strip
> > "priceless"
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Shotgun to shoot the F-cking crows that are eating all your seed $100 (plus
shells)... :-}
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Galley <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> Tractor with large deck mover $25,000 <GRIN>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
> >
> >
> > Grass seed $2500.00
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/11/04 6:22:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> > crabaut@coalinga.com writes:
> >
> > >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> > >
> > > I'm moving "away" from big government...
> > >
> > > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000
> > > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300
> > > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once
> > > during construction)
> > > $6,900
> > > -lots of work (no marketable value) $
> > > 0
> > > -tons of other odds &ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000
> > > -------------------------------------------------
> > > ----------------
> > > -having your own private dirt strip
> > > "priceless"
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
In a message dated 3/11/2004 4:09:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, crabaut@coalinga.com
writes:
> -having your own private dirt strip
> "priceless"
>
> do not archive
Naw, man: getting the dirt smooth and then getting GRASS to grow on your own private
dirt strip- that's priceless!!! (and I'm there with the grass, but still
working on the bumps!)
-Bill
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| Subject: | RE: EL Panel/Glare shield Lighting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
Listers,
I've installed the same EL strip into my Tip Up RV-6A. I have about 4.5"
of
glare shield overhang (it makes BIG difference on canopy reflections). I've
installed one .5" wide in close to the panel, and am planning a second one
further out on the bottom of the glare shield to better illuminate of the
lower
panel areas. The single unit does a very nice job of lighting up panel areas
that were previously dark. IMO, they do not replace instrument lighting, but
rather compliment it by lowering the contrast between the panel and the
instruments. The unit works well on the dimmer, but does have some flicker
at
some levels (due to the 'beat frequency' between the inverter freq and the
digital dimmer circuit I am using). I might have to filter the dimmed
voltage
to this unit to eliminate the flicker....
I have also installed two 50* white LEDs near the top latch of the canopy
(on
either side of the canopy safety latch). These are used as general cabin
lighting. Each has a small reflector that helps widen out the light beam. I
have found that by focusing the right side LED towards the left panel area
(and conversely the left side LED towards the right panel area) passenger
head
shadows are nearly eliminated. These two LEDs will light up the panel
sufficiently
for safe flight in the event of a panel lighting failure.....
I'm also planning on adding similar white LEDs in the baggage area. I'd
like to
have better cabin lighting of the 'hat rack' area where maps & charts are
usually stored during long trips. I've also contemplated putting the same
lighting
into the foot well areas......
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
155 Hrs
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Wiegenstein"
<n727jw@hellerwiegenstein.com>
Just an update for those who responded to my earlier inquries re:
panel
lighting options. After poking around the 'net to see what there was,
I
ended up ordering an Electroluminescent green tape strip kip from
Startech.
Here's the link:
http://www.mutantmods.com/itemdetail.cfm?ProductID=ELTAPEGN
I ordered thru Buy.com, for a total cost of about $18. The kit
arrived
today, with a 4 foot long strip of green EL tape, a nice, compact
transformer that runs off 12VDC, and connectors. Mocking it up where
my
glareshield will be shows that it gives lots of light, in a nice,
even, soft
green hue. I have the B&C dimmer for the other panel items
(avionics) and
the dimming curve for them seems to match well with the EL strip.
My
glareshield overhangs the panel by only about 1.5 inches, and if I had
left
a longer overhang it would position the EL strip further away from the
panel
and help give better light towards the bottom of the panel. But, so
far
it looks like it will be a slick setup for panel lighting, at very low
cost,
and should give very long life.
John Wiegenstein
Hansville, WA
RV-6 N727JW (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
I used the same material on my RV-6A with lighting throughout the panel, and
the power supply was in close proximity to all of my circuit breakers. I
had no interference from the system.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Soon
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: EL Panel/Glareshield Lighting
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
>
> I was wondering if you had tested it with your radios or a handheld radio
> on. I seem to remember that the transformers for the electroluminescent
> (sp??) lighting can be noisy??
>
> Then on the other hand, for $18 what the heck?
>
> Don
>
>
> "All of us need to be reminded that the federal government did not create
> the states; the states created the federal government!"---Ronald Reagan
>
> Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from
bCentral.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com>
Couldn't resist gloating:
Grass strip------------------------------------$00.00
Use of farmer's equipment to build grass strip-$00.00
Cost paid to farmer for seeding grass
strip----$276.00
Hanger-standing cattle shed will be converted--$00.00
(I already have the materials,collected for free)
Annual cost of mowing(Farmer's daughter)-------$00.00
She already mowed the yard and charges nothing
extra for mowing the grass strip.Yard cost $25/week.
This is what happens when you were born and raised in
a small town atmosphere and lease your inherited
farmland to some guys you grew up with. Sorry,but I
just couldn't help but throw this unbelievable
situation in here. Only bad thing about this setup is
that the strip is only 1,100 ft. long and it is 160
miles from where I live. The good thing is that I have
an RV-6 that can get there in an hour,land and take
off from this short strip,and if it is a nice day I
can taxi up in the yard of the farm house so my RV is
about 30 ft. from the door. Can you imagine being
downtown Chicago fighting the traffic and in a couple
of hours being out in the middle of nowhere sitting on
the front porch smoking a cigar and looking at your RV
sitting on your own grass strip!!
--- Cy Galley <cgalley@QCBC.ORG> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley"
> <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> Tractor with large deck mover $25,000 <GRIN>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
> >
> >
> > Grass seed $2500.00
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/11/04 6:22:51 PM US Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > crabaut@coalinga.com writes:
> >
> > >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
> <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> > >
> > > I'm moving "away" from big government...
> > >
> > > -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip
> $25,000
> > > -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?)
> $ 2,300
> > > -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once
> > > during construction)
> > > $6,900
> > > -lots of work (no marketable value)
> $
> > > 0
> > > -tons of other odds &ends (electrical, plumbing,
> etc) $3,000
> > >
> -------------------------------------------------
> > > ----------------
> > > -having your own private dirt strip
> > > "priceless"
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
> > >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | F1 QB wings for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com
For sale. One complete set of F1 wings. Contact me off list if interested.
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
vft@aol.com
407-687-3126
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| Subject: | Ugrades Update... |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Got my panel done and ready to paint...
I also got my new moving map software yesterday and have been playing around
with this morning... It's the Mountain Scope Moving Map stuff from
www.pcavionics.com... So far I think it's VERY COOL... I have posted a
bunch of screen shots and info to my site...
http://www.vondane.com/rv8a/finish/finish13.htm
-Bill VonDane
EAA Tech Counselor
RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
I've had 4 offers already! Thanks much for the replies. I went ahead
and asked the first responder to send me what I needed.
Vince
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Upgrades Update... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" <brucerv84us@hotmail.com>
Maybe you can check out all that new equipment in route to our fly-in if you
can make it? Your new panel is going to be pretty trick. (Carson City
Fly-in) Bruce
>From: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com, rv8list@yahoogroups.com, vansairforce
><vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Ugrades Update...
>Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:16:29 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>
>Got my panel done and ready to paint...
>
>I also got my new moving map software yesterday and have been playing
>around
>with this morning... It's the Mountain Scope Moving Map stuff from
>www.pcavionics.com... So far I think it's VERY COOL... I have posted a
>bunch of screen shots and info to my site...
>
>http://www.vondane.com/rv8a/finish/finish13.htm
>
>-Bill VonDane
>EAA Tech Counselor
>RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs
>www.vondane.com
>www.creativair.com
>www.epanelbuilder.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N8WV Upgrades... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Milner" <tldrgred@execpc.com>
Bill,
I`m running 125hp and was using a Sterba 68x68. Bought a 68x66 from a guy
with a -3 and performance was same, (1900 static rpm and 170mph at
2700rpm.). Sent the 68x66 to Sterba and requested 2200 static and no speed
loss on top end. I got it back and it`s 68x62 now and my tach reads 2050
static. Used a friends tach checker and found it`s realy turning 2250rpm
static (perfect). I still cruise at about 160mph @ 2500rpm. Sterba got the
prop baqck in a couple weeks and didn`t charge anything. Good man to work
with. My tach is accurate at 2500rpm but I don`t trust it anymore. What
would you do with it?
Red Milner
RV-4 79KM
based @ UES
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
<vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RV-List: N8WV Upgrades...
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>
> I've just updated my upgrades page if anyone is interested:
> http://www.vondane.com/rv8a/finish/finish13.htm
>
> Got my new panel back from Ross at Experimental Air -
> www.experimentalair.com, and it looks great!
>
> -Bill VonDane
> EAA Tech Counselor
> RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs
> www.vondane.com
> www.creativair.com
> www.epanelbuilder.com
>
>
> _____________________________________________________
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
... for me it's the bazillion ground squirrels digging holes all over he!!
otherwise, making the dirt smooth is easy.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/11/2004 4:09:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
crabaut@coalinga.com writes:
>
> > -having your own private dirt strip
> > "priceless"
> >
> > do not archive
>
> Naw, man: getting the dirt smooth and then getting GRASS to grow on your
own private dirt strip- that's priceless!!! (and I'm there with the grass,
but still working on the bumps!)
>
> -Bill
>
>
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| Subject: | RV6 slider defrosters |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charles Brame <charleyb@earthlink.net>
I haven't mounted my fans yet, but they will go in the fuse forward top
skin, centered in front of each occupant, in front of the instrument
panel and just inside the windshield (6A-Slider.) I also wondered about
the effect on the mag compass.
I set my fans on my work shop table and hooked them up to a power
supply. I positioned a boy scout compass between the fans and turned
them on. No movement on the compass. I repositioned the compass to
several other areas, above the fans, beside each fan, forward, back,
etc. I never saw any movement in the compass between fans on and fans
off. I even left the compass in place between the fans, and then removed
the fans one at a time - again no movement. Moving the compass anywhere
near the power supply; however, induced big errors. Thus, I am
comfortable that the fans won't cause compass errors once mounted.
Charlie Brame
RV-6A N11CB
San Antonio
-------------------------------
> Time: 04:22:30 PM PST US
> From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV-List: RV6 slider defrosters
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
>
> > Alex:
> >
> > Where did you mount your fans?? I am considering mounting
> > mine just under the top forward skin just aft of the
> > windscreen, but I am concerned about the magnets in the
> > motors. Can I assume that even if you have one on each side
> > of a possible compass mounted on the rollbar support and
> > equal distances from the midline of the airplane, that there
> > still would be some trouble with compass errors?
>
> I mounted them to the fuse forward top skin, just in front of the
> instrument panel. It took a little creativity to cram them in amongst
> the avionics, but it worked out. Don't know about the effect upon the
> compass, which is in the right panel. One of these days I'll swing it.
>
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 443 hours
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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| Subject: | Dave Anders phone number |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net>
I was told to contact Dave Anders at 559-627-3375 for round cowl inlets by 3 different
people on the list. Tried twice (carefully) and each time got the same
person who didn't know a Dave Anders. Does anyone have a different (correct?)
number?
Thanks,
Rick Fogerson
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry G RV-7 N697RV <edge540t@direcway.com>
Up here 40 acres would cost between 100,000 to
120,000 Rochester Mn area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
> --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> I'm moving "away" from big government...
>
> -buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000
> -one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300
> -one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once
> during construction)
> $6,900
> -lots of work (no marketable value) $
> 0
> -tons of other odds & ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000
> -------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> -having your own private dirt strip
> "priceless"
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
> >
> > Jason Sneed wrote:
> >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net>
> > >
> > >I am thinking about buying a 3000 square foot hanger and I was
> > >wondering if you guys that know something about metal buildings could
> > >give me a price per square foot for metal buildings. It has the more
> > >expensive electric folding door. I am just looking for an estimate. It
> > >is built on concrete and has a slab in front of the hanger also.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >Jason Sneed
> > >RV-6 (may be getting a new home)
> > >
> > I'm building a new house and workshop. The workshop is 30X80, 40'
> > electric bifold door and insulation. Cost is 23,480 or about $9.78/sq
> > foot ...... not including slab!
> > Linn
> > do not archive
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> ... for me it's the bazillion ground squirrels digging holes
> all over he!! otherwise, making the dirt smooth is easy.
>
> do not archive
Van himself told me a trick I would love to try: put some sulfur at the
opening of one of the holes, and aim a blowtorch at the sulfur and into
the hole. Stinky smoke comes up from the other holes, and various
rodents are croaked off.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 443 hours
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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| Subject: | Re: RV6 slider defrosters |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hello Charles,
I did the same testing using my yet to be installed Sirs compass, the
outcome was the same.
Jim in Kelowna do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Brame" <charleyb@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV-List: RV6 slider
defrosters
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charles Brame <charleyb@earthlink.net>
>
> I haven't mounted my fans yet, but they will go in the fuse forward top
> skin, centered in front of each occupant, in front of the instrument
> panel and just inside the windshield (6A-Slider.) I also wondered about
> the effect on the mag compass.
>
> I set my fans on my work shop table and hooked them up to a power
> supply. I positioned a boy scout compass between the fans and turned
> them on. No movement on the compass. I repositioned the compass to
> several other areas, above the fans, beside each fan, forward, back,
> etc. I never saw any movement in the compass between fans on and fans
> off. I even left the compass in place between the fans, and then removed
> the fans one at a time - again no movement. Moving the compass anywhere
> near the power supply; however, induced big errors. Thus, I am
> comfortable that the fans won't cause compass errors once mounted.
>
> Charlie Brame
> RV-6A N11CB
> San Antonio
>
> -------------------------------
>
> > Time: 04:22:30 PM PST US
> > From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> > Subject: RE: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV-List: RV6 slider
defrosters
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
<alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> >
> >
> > > Alex:
> > >
> > > Where did you mount your fans?? I am considering mounting
> > > mine just under the top forward skin just aft of the
> > > windscreen, but I am concerned about the magnets in the
> > > motors. Can I assume that even if you have one on each side
> > > of a possible compass mounted on the rollbar support and
> > > equal distances from the midline of the airplane, that there
> > > still would be some trouble with compass errors?
> >
> > I mounted them to the fuse forward top skin, just in front of the
> > instrument panel. It took a little creativity to cram them in amongst
> > the avionics, but it worked out. Don't know about the effect upon the
> > compass, which is in the right panel. One of these days I'll swing it.
> >
> > Alex Peterson
> > Maple Grove, MN
> > RV6-A N66AP 443 hours
> > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carson City Fly-in |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
This Carson City --- Nevada? When?
hal
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related/smoothing the bumps |
--> RV-List message posted by: Nels Hanson <pa201950@yahoo.com>
Wait until the April rains saturate your strip,then
call a local asphalt company and have them come out
with a 3-5 ton vibratory roller and compaction roll
your grass strip. You can't believe how smooth this
will make it. Don't use a small roller from a rental
place,they are too small. Hit the strip about the time
you can make a dent in the soil with your heel. It
should cost around $300-$400. It will be well worth it
and will last all summer and fall.
--- "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
> <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> ... for me it's the bazillion ground squirrels
> digging holes all over he!!
> otherwise, making the dirt smooth is easy.
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 3/11/2004 4:09:23 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> crabaut@coalinga.com writes:
> >
> > > -having your own private dirt strip
> > > "priceless"
> > >
> > > do not archive
> >
> > Naw, man: getting the dirt smooth and then getting
> GRASS to grow on your
> own private dirt strip- that's priceless!!! (and
> I'm there with the grass,
> but still working on the bumps!)
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV6 slider defrosters |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Charlie:
Thanks for the info on your research into fans causing compass errors.
I guess I can keep my cool about it now.........Sorry, couldn't resist!
Do Not Archive
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A
Panel
Peshtigo, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Brame" <charleyb@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV-List: RV6 slider
defrosters
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charles Brame <charleyb@earthlink.net>
>
> I haven't mounted my fans yet, but they will go in the fuse forward top
> skin, centered in front of each occupant, in front of the instrument
> panel and just inside the windshield (6A-Slider.) I also wondered about
> the effect on the mag compass.
>
> I set my fans on my work shop table and hooked them up to a power
> supply. I positioned a boy scout compass between the fans and turned
> them on. No movement on the compass. I repositioned the compass to
> several other areas, above the fans, beside each fan, forward, back,
> etc. I never saw any movement in the compass between fans on and fans
> off. I even left the compass in place between the fans, and then removed
> the fans one at a time - again no movement. Moving the compass anywhere
> near the power supply; however, induced big errors. Thus, I am
> comfortable that the fans won't cause compass errors once mounted.
>
> Charlie Brame
> RV-6A N11CB
> San Antonio
>
> -------------------------------
>
> > Time: 04:22:30 PM PST US
> > From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> > Subject: RE: Fans causing compass errors ...was... RV-List: RV6 slider
defrosters
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
<alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> >
> >
> > > Alex:
> > >
> > > Where did you mount your fans?? I am considering mounting
> > > mine just under the top forward skin just aft of the
> > > windscreen, but I am concerned about the magnets in the
> > > motors. Can I assume that even if you have one on each side
> > > of a possible compass mounted on the rollbar support and
> > > equal distances from the midline of the airplane, that there
> > > still would be some trouble with compass errors?
> >
> > I mounted them to the fuse forward top skin, just in front of the
> > instrument panel. It took a little creativity to cram them in amongst
> > the avionics, but it worked out. Don't know about the effect upon the
> > compass, which is in the right panel. One of these days I'll swing it.
> >
> > Alex Peterson
> > Maple Grove, MN
> > RV6-A N66AP 443 hours
> > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
Don't complain. Around here (NW NJ) 40 acres would cost well over $1M.
Dick Tasker
Larry G RV-7 N697RV wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Larry G RV-7 N697RV <edge540t@direcway.com>
>
>Up here 40 acres would cost between 100,000 to
>120,000 Rochester Mn area.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>>
>>I'm moving "away" from big government...
>>
>>-buying into a 40 acre, 1800' dirt strip $25,000
>>-one 40' x 60' concrete slab (self pour/level ?) $ 2,300
>>-one 40' x 60' arch style hanger (blew away once
>> during construction)
>>$6,900
>>-lots of work (no marketable value) $
>>0
>>-tons of other odds & ends (electrical, plumbing, etc) $3,000
>>-------------------------------------------------
>> ----------------
>>-having your own private dirt strip
>>"priceless"
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV related Hanger related
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>>>
>>>Jason Sneed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net>
>>>>
>>>>I am thinking about buying a 3000 square foot hanger and I was
>>>>wondering if you guys that know something about metal buildings could
>>>>give me a price per square foot for metal buildings. It has the more
>>>>expensive electric folding door. I am just looking for an estimate. It
>>>>is built on concrete and has a slab in front of the hanger also.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jason Sneed
>>>>RV-6 (may be getting a new home)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I'm building a new house and workshop. The workshop is 30X80, 40'
>>>electric bifold door and insulation. Cost is 23,480 or about $9.78/sq
>>>foot ...... not including slab!
>>>Linn
>>>do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
"C. Rabaut" wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Ross,
>
> Yep, she's a "kit". First let me say... "I will never build a Quonset
> Hut, Arch style hanger ever again (using only me & one other guy)!". The
> reason I say that is due to the level of difficulty & lack of proper
> equipment. Me & a retired friend of mine, who wishes to remained
> "anonymous", had one heck of a time with this thing. The company says "easy
> assembly, no special tools required, etc..." B.S.
> Sure, if you have 6 guys and a scaffolding and 2 weeks of perfect weather
> then it's "easy assembly".
>
> The basic building consists of individual arches made out of Paper Thin
> galvanized steel, about10' x 2'. You bolt 5 of them end to end, then stand
> up one huge, wiggly, floppy, awkward, razor sharp, arching noodle that has a
> height of about 15' and a span of 40' and is only 2' wide. Now imagine
> trying to stabilize that monstrosity, while bolting together another
> "section", then standing up the second section, bolting that second wiggling
> section to the first one (while keeping them both balanced and trying to get
> the bolt holes to line up), and then repeating this process thirty times
> until those 2' sections add up to the 60' total length. They don't gain
> their strength until completely bolted together and secured to the
> foundation (now that she's done of course I can run up one side, jump up &
> down on the top, and run down the other side; she is strong).
How did you determine Her gender?
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV related Hanger related |
--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Sad but here it won't buy a lot in town.
hal
Paso Robles, CA (but the Apricot trees are in full bloom!)
At 03:00 PM 3/12/2004, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Larry G RV-7 N697RV <edge540t@direcway.com>
>
>Up here 40 acres would cost between 100,000 to
>120,000 Rochester Mn area.
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