---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/26/04: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:22 AM - Re: Prop Spinner (Jerry Springer) 2. 04:58 AM - Re: Prop Spinner (Ed Anderson) 3. 06:22 AM - Light Weight Starter (Bill VonDane) 4. 07:42 AM - Re: -4 fuse jig (Rolf) 5. 09:15 AM - Champion RV6-A For Sale (Ross Mickey) 6. 09:41 AM - Com Antenna (Jack) 7. 09:45 AM - Re: Dropped bucking bar--Need ding fix (John) 8. 10:59 AM - Re: Com Antenna (Bob) 9. 11:12 AM - hidden pitot tube (Evan and Megan Johnson) 10. 11:50 AM - CHT installation (Clark, Thomas IFC) 11. 12:04 PM - Re: CHT installation (Trampas) 12. 01:36 PM - VOR Antenna (Michael Birmingham) 13. 02:11 PM - Re: Com Antenna (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 14. 02:23 PM - Re: VOR Antenna (Stein Bruch) 15. 04:04 PM - Re: Com Antenna (Joe Hine) 16. 04:35 PM - Re: Com Antenna (Denis Walsh) 17. 07:13 PM - Cowlings (Mike Comeaux) 18. 07:21 PM - Re: hidden pitot tube (GRGSCHMIDT@aol.com) 19. 07:37 PM - Re: VOR Antenna (LeastDrag93066@aol.com) 20. 08:15 PM - Re: Com Antenna (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 21. 09:15 PM - RV-List Skidding (smoothweasel@juno.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:12 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop Spinner --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer GMC wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" > > >Question, - has anyone operated a RV-6 with the prop spinner removed, if yes >was there any cooling or other problems that should be watched for? > >The question came up because I am doing a recurrent training session and one >topic will be minimum equipment lists. > >Got me thinking about finding a cracked spinner at some far away airport. > >Thanks, - do not archive. > >George in Langley > > > > George, I have operated without a spinner for several hours without any problems. YMMV depending upon your cooling system. Jerry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:27 AM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop Spinner --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" George, I don't foresee any cooling problem operating without a prop spinner. However, one thing you might want to be aware of. I was operating my engine without the spinner during ground runup at WOT throttle when I hear a "bang" and saw a blur fly from the front of the aircraft. I discovered that having neglected to safety wire the spinner attachment "ears" together that there was sufficient force (either air flow or centrifugal) to rip one of the aluminum "ears" off its attachment to the spinner back plate. So my suggestion is that you use safety wire to wire the ends of the "ears" to each other (to keep the force from spreading them to where the better catch the airflow) before doing runups without the spinner (or else remove the spinner back plate). FWIW Ed Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "GMC" Subject: RV-List: Prop Spinner > --> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" > > > Question, - has anyone operated a RV-6 with the prop spinner removed, if yes > was there any cooling or other problems that should be watched for? > > The question came up because I am doing a recurrent training session and one > topic will be minimum equipment lists. > > Got me thinking about finding a cracked spinner at some far away airport. > > Thanks, - do not archive. > > George in Langley > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:27 AM PST US From: Bill VonDane Subject: RV-List: Light Weight Starter vansairforce --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane Who has the best prices on the light weight / high torque starters these days? -Bill ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:52 AM PST US From: "Rolf" Subject: Re: RV-List: -4 fuse jig --> RV-List message posted by: "Rolf" Scott, I've got an RV6 Fuse jig in Santa Rosa, CA. Would work with minor modification. (Steel wing jig too, that rolls on tracks) Rolf --> RV-List message posted by: "Wilder, Scott" > Anyone have a lead on >>a -4 fuse jig in the SF bay area or norcal? Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:45 AM PST US From: "Ross Mickey" Subject: RV-List: Champion RV6-A For Sale --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" 2002 Champion Kit Plane award Oshkosh, 180 hp with new Hartzell blended prop. IFR with Multi Function Display MX20, S-Tec auto pilot. TTSN 55 hours. $118,500 Awards: Arlington, WA 2002-Champion Kit Plane Oshkosh, WI 2002 Kit plane Champion- Lindy Award This is a gorgeous airplane. See it here http://aocreative.com/airplane/ Contact Wally Anderson at info@synergyair.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:19 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Com Antenna From: Jack --> RV-List message posted by: Jack For appearance and convenience reasons, I'm considering installing a bent whip antenna under the fuselage of a VFR 6A slightly aft of the main spar. However the proximity of the gear legs (~3' away) and the antenna's 3.0 VSWR are of concern. Comments from those of you have experience with a bent whip antenna mounted under the fuselage would be appreciated. Jack H. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:08 AM PST US From: "John" Subject: Re: RV-List: Dropped bucking bar--Need ding fix --> RV-List message posted by: "John" DON'T USE BONDO ! Unless you want to see a crack at its edges after aroound 100 hours...use Miracle Fill....mine hasn't come loose or shown edge lifting in 9 years...Bondo has !! John ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:44 AM PST US From: Bob Subject: Re: RV-List: Com Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Jack wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Jack > > >For appearance and convenience reasons, I'm considering installing a >bent whip antenna under the fuselage of a VFR 6A slightly aft of the >main spar. However the proximity of the gear legs (~3' away) and the >antenna's 3.0 VSWR are of concern. Comments from those of you have >experience with a bent whip antenna mounted under the fuselage would be >appreciated. > >Jack H. > ========================================== Jack: That is where I have a similar com antenna mounted. Dunno what the VSWR is, but I have no trouble talking 100 miles air to air on a 2 watt walkie-talkie. Bob - N863WL - RV3 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:44 AM PST US From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Subject: RV-List: hidden pitot tube --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" A question for those of you in the know....I was looking at a Diamond aircraft this morning and a friend pointed out that the pitot tube is completly hidden in the leading edge of the wing...just a 1/4 hole!? Can this be done on an RV wing? It would be cool to have no pitot sticking out in the wind, but I dont know if the front of the leading edge is undisturbed air. It certainly is as it passes over the leading edge. Instinct tells me that the air pressure would be changed right at the leading edge and the airspeed readings would be inaccurate....but Diamond does it. Hmmmmmm any thoughts? Thanks ...Evan ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:29 AM PST US From: "Clark, Thomas IFC" rv-list@matronics.com, vansairforce Subject: RV-List: CHT installation --> RV-List message posted by: "Clark, Thomas IFC" Group, I am in the need for the bayonet inserts that screw into the cylinders on the bottom of the Lycoming cylinders that hold the spring loaded CHT thermocouples. Does anyone out there know a good source to obtain them? Is there a Lycoming part number for them? Thanks Tom Clark ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:04:49 PM PST US From: "Trampas" Subject: RE: RV-List: CHT installation --> RV-List message posted by: "Trampas" Aircraft Spruce sells them part number on package says "CT03 CHT probe (Bayonet)". The invoice has description as "@64383 EFIS CHT Probe - Bayonet." I will warn you that they are not cheap and they were back ordered for several months. Regards, Trampas Stern -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clark, Thomas IFC Subject: RV-List: CHT installation --> RV-List message posted by: "Clark, Thomas IFC" Group, I am in the need for the bayonet inserts that screw into the cylinders on the bottom of the Lycoming cylinders that hold the spring loaded CHT thermocouples. Does anyone out there know a good source to obtain them? Is there a Lycoming part number for them? Thanks Tom Clark ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:09 PM PST US From: "Michael Birmingham" "'vansairforce'" Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Birmingham" We are about to install a VOR in our RV-6 and we hesitate to cut up the vertical stab to install the Nav antenna. Has anyone attempted to install it on the belly? Any other type of antenna available to the experimental market that might do the job? Thanks ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:29 PM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Com Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com In a message dated 3/26/04 12:42:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jgh2@charter.net writes: > --> RV-List message posted by: Jack > > > For appearance and convenience reasons, I'm considering installing a > bent whip antenna under the fuselage of a VFR 6A slightly aft of the > main spar. However the proximity of the gear legs (~3' away) and the > antenna's 3.0 VSWR are of concern. Comments from those of you have > experience with a bent whip antenna mounted under the fuselage would be > appreciated. > > Jack H. > > Jack, The SWR may be OK in the air. The proximity to the ground may be causing it to be high. Dan Hopper K9WEK RV-7A (almost done) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:40 PM PST US From: "Stein Bruch" Subject: RE: RV-List: VOR Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" My Bob Archer "Sportcraft" wingtip VOR antenna performs beautifully, with VOR/LOC/GS functions. Lots of information in the archives about these antennas! Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6's Minneapolis Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michael Birmingham Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Birmingham" We are about to install a VOR in our RV-6 and we hesitate to cut up the vertical stab to install the Nav antenna. Has anyone attempted to install it on the belly? Any other type of antenna available to the experimental market that might do the job? Thanks ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:01 PM PST US From: "Joe Hine" Subject: RE: RV-List: Com Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Hine" Jack I have a bent whip antenna under my 4, just slightly aft of the gear and have had no problems. I get many comments on how good the radio is (val) and have talked to people over a hundred miles away at 1000ft. Joe Hine RV4 C-FYTQ -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jack Subject: RV-List: Com Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: Jack For appearance and convenience reasons, I'm considering installing a bent whip antenna under the fuselage of a VFR 6A slightly aft of the main spar. However the proximity of the gear legs (~3' away) and the antenna's 3.0 VSWR are of concern. Comments from those of you have experience with a bent whip antenna mounted under the fuselage would be appreciated. Jack H. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:49 PM PST US From: Denis Walsh Subject: Re: RV-List: Com Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh I'm a believer. Great strength on the ground, and the best range in the air. 6A with bottom bent whip. It is in midst of baggage compartment. On Mar 26, 2004, at 4:57 PM, Joe Hine wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Hine" > > Jack > > I have a bent whip antenna under my 4, just slightly aft of the gear > and > have had no problems. I get many comments on how good the radio is > (val) > and have talked to people over a hundred miles away at 1000ft. > > Joe Hine > RV4 C-FYTQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jack > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Com Antenna > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jack > > > For appearance and convenience reasons, I'm considering installing a > bent whip antenna under the fuselage of a VFR 6A slightly aft of the > main spar. However the proximity of the gear legs (~3' away) and the > antenna's 3.0 VSWR are of concern. Comments from those of you have > experience with a bent whip antenna mounted under the fuselage would be > appreciated. > > Jack H. > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:14 PM PST US From: "Mike Comeaux" Subject: RV-List: Cowlings --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Comeaux" Is there any other manufactures of cowlings similar to the James Aircraft with the small round openings & plenum? Mike Comeaux mcomeaux@bendnet.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:28 PM PST US From: GRGSCHMIDT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: hidden pitot tube --> RV-List message posted by: GRGSCHMIDT@aol.com For your information, Cessna did this on the Pressurized Skymaster also, but they installed the pitot holes in the leading edge of the wing strut and it works fine. In addition to the unconventional pitot source it is also heated and certified for IFR operations. Whether or not it would be satisfactory on an RV wing is questionable. Greg Schmidt RV6S N250GS Flying PHX ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:44 PM PST US From: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: VOR Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com In a message dated 03/26/2004 1:37:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, mbirmham@flightline.com writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Birmingham" We are about to install a VOR in our RV-6 and we hesitate to cut up the vertical stab to install the Nav antenna. Has anyone attempted to install it on the belly? Any other type of antenna available to the experimental market that might do the job? Thanks Contact Bob Archer at bobsantennas@earthlink.com Or call him at 310-316-8796. Jim Ayers ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:34 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Com Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com Mine's about 10" in front of the rear spar on the drivers side about 8" to the left of centerline- all communicants report "loud & clear" (Microair 760 with el cheapo ACS bent wip ant) Mark - do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:34 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV-List Skidding From: smoothweasel@juno.com --> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com Hey Guys, Is it possible to have a plane flying in a skid ( sideways ) with the turn coordinator ball in the center???? I have already checked that the instrument was installed level to the aircraft. Any ideas??? Fairings out of line???? Weasel Graber