RV-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/03/04


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 05:28 AM - Spinner mounting problem. (PGLong@aol.com)
     2. 05:36 AM - Re: Elevator trim (DAVID REEL)
     3. 05:55 AM - Re: Women Building RVs (John D. Heath)
     4. 06:16 AM - Altimeter Adjustment (N223RV@aol.com)
     5. 06:30 AM - Re: Altimeter Adjustment (Jerry Springer)
     6. 06:37 AM - Re: Altimeter Adjustment (KIMSEYCO@aol.com)
     7. 07:28 AM - EIS4000 - What limit to use for Shock Cooling Alarm? (C J Heitman)
     8. 07:39 AM - Re: Altimeter Adjustment (Cy Galley)
     9. 08:37 AM - Re: EIS4000 - What limit to use for Shock Cooling Alarm? (WFACT01@aol.com)
    10. 09:37 AM - Re: Altimeter Adjustment (Vanremog@aol.com)
    11. 10:29 AM - Re: Spinner mounting problem. (Bob)
    12. 10:29 AM - Re: Women Building RVs (Larry G RV-7 N697RV)
    13. 10:32 AM - Re: Altimeter Adjustment (John D. Heath)
    14. 10:56 AM - looking to try on RV-3 / -4 for size. SDL / ABE area (BK)
    15. 12:50 PM - Collins help (Dave Bristol)
    16. 02:04 PM - Re: Spinner mounting problem. (Tracy Crook)
    17. 05:35 PM - Re: Party Time at Outer Slobovia Outernational Airport (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
    18. 05:48 PM - Re: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! (Charlie & Tupper England)
    19. 06:47 PM - Re: Altimeter Adjustment (Brett Ray)
    20. 07:51 PM - Re: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! (Brian Kraut)
    21. 08:38 PM - Re: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! (Charlie & Tupper England)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:28:58 AM PST US
    From: PGLong@aol.com
    Subject: Spinner mounting problem.
    --> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com Thought I would run by those in the know a problem I'm having installing the spinner. Seems at the 4-3/8" wood prop thickness is to much for proper installation. I can get the spinner on but it is stressed and so are the spinner plates. Even bowed slightly. It would fit in a relaxed state if I did the following. The front spinner plate needs to be about .100" closer to the back spinner plate. The only way I can figure to do this is to thin the thickness of the prop hub by removing from the front portion of the prop where the spinner plate mounts by .100". I'm considering using a pin router just to do the surface on the front of the hub. This would keep the surface parallel to the rear and not cause any wobble. The front spinner plate is about 8.5" diameter. I would then round off the routed portion that extends to the blades so there would be no 90 degree angle, just a smooth return to full thickness. What are your comments about this method I'm considering? Mentioned this to Ed Sterba and he thought it would be an acceptable fix. Anyone else have a problem like this? Thanks for your input. Pat Long PGLong@aol.com N120PL (reserved) RV4 Almost ready for Paint Bay City, Michigan Do Not Archive


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    Time: 05:36:47 AM PST US
    From: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Elevator trim
    --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net> Pitch sensitivity to elevator movements is not related to whether the elevator rests in trail with respect to the horizontal stabilizer at some speed, say cruise. As the center of lift moves closer to the center of mass, the plane will have more and more pitch sensitivity until it becomes unstable when the center of lift moves ahead of the center of mass. The plane you are building sounds like it will have a rearward center of mass and hence have higher pitch sensitivity in all flight coditions. So you are unlikely to run out of trim or elevator authority. In fact, I'd worry more about suceptability to overstressing the airplane at high speed from your own control stick movement. But it's also true that you'll experience less 'pitch stability drag' because your airplane is less stable with a rearward CG so less corrective down force is required from the HS-elevator combination. Of course, when the elevator is in trail at any flight condition, the corrective force is being most efficiently generated so there is a drag reduction of secondary magnitude. Dave Reel - RV8A


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    Time: 05:55:03 AM PST US
    From: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Women Building RVs
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com> I know One , Kathleen@rv7.us , She has a web site, but I've lost the address. She started about two mounths ago. John D ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV7@Gunsite.to" <RV&@Gunsite.to> Subject: RV-List: Women Building RVs > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV7@Gunsite.to" <RV&@Gunsite.to> > > I am trying to identify any women building an RV, particularly those with > websites. Would appreciate any help I can get. > > Anyone know of any? > > Thanks. > >


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    Time: 06:16:45 AM PST US
    From: N223RV@aol.com
    Subject: Altimeter Adjustment
    --> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com Can you easily adjust the altimeter? I noticed a small screw next to the pressure adjustment knob, unscrewed it and it does not appear to be anything in there to adjust. I know on a VSI there is a small adjustment, just wondering if there is any adjustment on the altimeter. Blah, blah, blah, I don't need to be spammed, I know they are adjusted at the factory, I know they can be off at one altitude and very accurate at others, and I even have a the calibration sheet for my altimeter. Just wonding if they can be adjusted or not. Thanks -Mike Kraus N223RV RV-4 Flying N213RV RV-10 Empennage


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    Time: 06:30:01 AM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Altimeter Adjustment
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net> N223RV@aol.com wrote: >Blah, blah, blah, > >-Mike Kraus >N223RV RV-4 Flying >N213RV RV-10 Empennage > > > Yes do not archive Jerry


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    Time: 06:37:59 AM PST US
    From: KIMSEYCO@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Altimeter Adjustment
    --> RV-List message posted by: KIMSEYCO@aol.com the screw you are talking about is used by the instrument shop to adjust the altimeter to the correct baro setting and should only be adjusted so far if my failing memory is serving me ok. best to talk to an instrument shop about it. just what is it that you need to adjust? is your a/c certified ifr? if so and you adjust the screw it will invaladate the cert and it can be screwed up. be careful out their. tom kimsey warner robins,ga


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    Time: 07:28:32 AM PST US
    From: "C J Heitman" <cjh@execpc.com>
    Subject: EIS4000 - What limit to use for Shock Cooling Alarm?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "C J Heitman" <cjh@execpc.com> I know many pilots flying behind a Lycoming feel that shock cooling isn't a big issue, but for those with a Grand Rapids EIS4000 engine monitor, what maximum CHT Change Rate (degrees F/minute) did you program for the shock cooling alarm? I don't want to abuse my IO-320 but I also don't want to see too many inadvertent alarms. Chris Heitman Dousman WI RV-9A N94ME http://my.execpc.com/~cjh/rv9a.html ---


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    Time: 07:39:21 AM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@QCBC.ORG>
    Subject: Re: Altimeter Adjustment
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> One backs off the screw just above and to the left of the setting knob until it can be gently raised to permit the release of setting knob. You then pull out on the adjusting knob to dis-engage the hands from the window indicator. The lock screw has a very large head but a very small shank that lifts out a locking pin. Do not over tighten as it is brass and all that has to happen is for the head to be in the recess to lock the pin. Our flying club had to buy a new altimeter when the tech broke the screw. Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh Editor, EAA Safety Programs cgalley@qcbc.org or sportpilot@eaa.org Always looking for articles for Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: <N223RV@aol.com> Subject: RV-List: Altimeter Adjustment > --> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com > > Can you easily adjust the altimeter? I noticed a small screw next to the > pressure adjustment knob, unscrewed it and it does not appear to be anything in > there to adjust. I know on a VSI there is a small adjustment, just wondering if > there is any adjustment on the altimeter. > > Blah, blah, blah, I don't need to be spammed, I know they are adjusted at the > factory, I know they can be off at one altitude and very accurate at others, > and I even have a the calibration sheet for my altimeter. Just wonding if > they can be adjusted or not. Thanks > > -Mike Kraus > N223RV RV-4 Flying > N213RV RV-10 Empennage > >


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    Time: 08:37:15 AM PST US
    From: WFACT01@aol.com
    Subject: Re: EIS4000 - What limit to use for Shock Cooling Alarm?
    --> RV-List message posted by: WFACT01@aol.com CRIS-30;F PER MINUTE-LYC HAS TWO SERVICE DOCUMENTS-ONE SAYS 20F THE OTHER SAYS 40F PER MINUTE-TOM Tom Whelan Whelan Farms Airport President EAA Chapter 1097 wfact01@aol.com 249 Hard Hill Road North PO Box 426 Bethlehem, CT 06751 Tel: 203-266-5300 Fax: 202-266-5140 EAA Technical/Flight Advisor RV-8 540 LYC (Engine Runs, Taxi-Tests) S-51 Mustang Turbine (Under Construction)


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    Time: 09:37:09 AM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Altimeter Adjustment
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 4/3/2004 6:17:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, N223RV@aol.com writes: Can you easily adjust the altimeter? I noticed a small screw next to the pressure adjustment knob, unscrewed it and it does not appear to be anything in there to adjust. I know on a VSI there is a small adjustment, just wondering if there is any adjustment on the altimeter. Blah, blah, blah, I don't need to be spammed, I know they are adjusted at the factory, I know they can be off at one altitude and very accurate at others, and I even have a the calibration sheet for my altimeter. Just wonding if they can be adjusted or not. =========================== Yes, they can and it's all in the archives. GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 685 hrs)


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    Time: 10:29:48 AM PST US
    From: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
    Subject: Re: Spinner mounting problem.
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net> I had the same problem, but the distances was more like a 1/4", I ordered every spinner front plate that Vans makes, non worked. I talked to Vans about this and their response was that all prop makers were supposed to standardize their prop thickness. And of course, I was the only person who ever had this problem! I tried numerous fixes. The one that worked, was a cut down front plate. I cut off the flange and then fiberglassed a new fiberglass flange onto it. This fit perfectly, and I have not had any problems since. Best of all no wobble. Personally, I would not do surgery on the prop. Bob RV6 NightFighter > Thought I would run by those in the know a problem I'm having installing > the >spinner. Seems at the 4-3/8" wood prop thickness is to much for proper >installation. I can get the spinner on but it is stressed and so are the >spinner >plates. Even bowed slightly. It would fit in a relaxed state if I did the >following. The front spinner plate needs to be about .100" closer to the >back >spinner plate. The only way I can figure to do this is to thin the >thickness of the >prop hub by removing from the front portion of the prop where the spinner >plate mounts by .100". I'm considering using a pin router just to do the >surface >on the front of the hub. This would keep the surface parallel to the rear and >not cause any wobble. The front spinner plate is about 8.5" diameter. I would >then round off the routed portion that extends to the blades so there >would be >no 90 degree angle, just a smooth return to full thickness. What are your >comments about this method I'm considering? Mentioned this to Ed Sterba >and he >thought it would be an acceptable fix. Anyone else have a problem like this? >Thanks for your input.


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    Time: 10:29:48 AM PST US
    From: Larry G RV-7 N697RV <edge540t@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Women Building RVs
    --> RV-List message posted by: Larry G RV-7 N697RV <edge540t@direcway.com> Kathleen's RV-7A Builder's Site http://www.rv7.us/a_home.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Women Building RVs > --> RV-List message posted by: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com> > > > I know One , Kathleen@rv7.us , She has a web site, but I've lost > the address. She started about two mounths ago. > > John D > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RV7@Gunsite.to" <RV&@Gunsite.to> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: Women Building RVs > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV7@Gunsite.to" <RV&@Gunsite.to> > > > > I am trying to identify any women building an RV, particularly those with > > websites. Would appreciate any help I can get. > > > > Anyone know of any? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:32:00 AM PST US
    From: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Altimeter Adjustment
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John D. Heath" <altoq@direcway.com> Set the altemeterto field elevation Turn the screw out far enough to clear the face of the insturment Slide it away from the knob, Wiggle as required, turn it in to hold it in place Pull the Knob out to the stop Turn the Knob to adjust only the Kolsmans window to the altemeter setting Slide the screw back to it's original position and secure it Now You Know John D ----- Original Message ----- From: <Vanremog@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Altimeter Adjustment > --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/3/2004 6:17:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, N223RV@aol.com > writes: > Can you easily adjust the altimeter? I noticed a small screw next to the > pressure adjustment knob, unscrewed it and it does not appear to be anything > in > there to adjust. I know on a VSI there is a small adjustment, just wondering > if > there is any adjustment on the altimeter. > > Blah, blah, blah, I don't need to be spammed, I know they are adjusted at the > factory, I know they can be off at one altitude and very accurate at others, > and I even have a the calibration sheet for my altimeter. Just wonding if > they can be adjusted or not. > =========================== > > Yes, they can and it's all in the archives. > > > GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 685 hrs) > >


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    Time: 10:56:07 AM PST US
    From: BK <ltwdg@yahoo.com>
    Subject: looking to try on RV-3 / -4 for size. SDL / ABE area
    --> RV-List message posted by: BK <ltwdg@yahoo.com> DO NOT ARCHIVE. Not having much luck finding an -3 or -4 someone will let me sit in around the Allentown,PA area; I will probably be in the Scottsdale, AZ area soon, is there anyone in that area willing to let me see how comfortably my slim 6'2" frame fits? Also maybe in FXE area? __________________________________ http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/


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    Time: 12:50:43 PM PST US
    From: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
    Subject: Collins help
    --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org> Guys, Does anyone have a pinout diagram and/or schematics for a Collins GLS-350 glideslope receiver? Thanks Please respond off list. Dave Bristol, -6 So Cal EAA Technical Counselor do not archive


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    Time: 02:04:00 PM PST US
    From: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Spinner mounting problem.
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> Just ran into the same problem while retrofitting my -4 with a new prop. My solution (after trashing a new -4 spinner & a couple of front bulkheads) was to grab my -8 spinner off the shelf and use it. It fit perfectly with w 4 3/8" hub. The larger -8 spinner actually looks good on the -4. I always thought the -4 spinner was a tad small on the big end. Tracy Crook ----- Original Message ----- From: PGLong@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Spinner mounting problem. --> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com Thought I would run by those in the know a problem I'm having installing the spinner. Seems at the 4-3/8" wood prop thickness is to much for proper installation. I can get the spinner on but it is stressed and so are the spinner plates. Even bowed slightly. It would fit in a relaxed state if I did the following. The front spinner plate needs to be about .100" closer to the back spinner plate. The only way I can figure to do this is to thin the thickness of the prop hub by removing from the front portion of the prop where the spinner plate mounts by .100". I'm considering using a pin router just to do the surface on the front of the hub. This would keep the surface parallel to the rear and not cause any wobble. The front spinner plate is about 8.5" diameter. I would then round off the routed portion that extends to the blades so there would be no 90 degree angle, just a smooth return to full thickness. What are your comments about this method I'm considering? Mentioned this to Ed Sterba and he thought it would be an acceptable fix. Anyone else have a problem like this? Thanks for your input. Pat Long PGLong@aol.com N120PL (reserved) RV4 Almost ready for Paint Bay City, Michigan Do Not Archive


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    Time: 05:35:52 PM PST US
    From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Party Time at Outer Slobovia Outernational Airport
    --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com Tom; I have dropped flour bombs from my RV-4 by tying a cord(Nylon or such) to something on the right side near the panel. Lead the cord out under the canopy rail next to the panel,around the bomb and back inside. Secure the end of the cord so you can release it at the proper time. Then Practice,practice,practice to get the timing right. I have also dropped a roll of toilet tissue this way for ribbon cutting contests. Have trophies to prove it works !! Bob Olds -- RV-4 , N1191X oldsfolks@aol.com A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor Charleston,Arkansas Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers


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    Time: 05:48:28 PM PST US
    From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
    Subject: Re: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!!
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> Well Tom, I'm really not supposed to talk about it, but you know those new rules about not flying over nuclear power plants? OOPS... Already said too much. I've got a buddy who could lay down a perfect line of water balloon hits from his C-140 using a pvc pipe bomb bay. Think outside the cabin...er....box. Charlie Tom Gummo wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> > >Charlie, > >Has anybody have a system for flour bombing from an RV?? All the RVs I >know, don't have a window or any other means to drop the flour. > >Tom Gummo >Apple Valley, CA >Harmon Rocket-II > >do not archive > >http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Charlie & Tupper England" <cengland@netdoor.com> >To: "Kerr, Bernie" <kerrjb@msn.com>; "lane, kevin " <n3773@comcast.net>; >"Lassen, Finn " <finnlassen@netzero.net>; "Mars, Sam " ><sammars@bellsouth.net>; "Powell, Ken" <kenpowell@alltel.net>; "Powell, ken >" <kenpowell@comcast.net>; "Presson, Bill " <wpresson@netdoor.com>; >"Richardson, Coley " <coleyrich@juno.com>; "Roberts, Monty" ><montyr2157@alltel.net>; "RV list" <rv-list@matronics.com>; ><rv7-list@matronics.com>; "Sanders Herb" <hsanders@bellsouth.net>; "Scott, >Jonathan " <jonscott.ms@netzero.net>; "Stall, Kendall " ><kstall@stcharles.k12.la.us>; "thorplist" <thorplist@onelist.com> >Subject: RV-List: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! > > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England >> >> ><cengland@netdoor.com> > > >>Greetings Fellow Aviators, >> >>The Lower Slobovia Outernational Garden Club would like to extend to You >>and Yours a cordial invitation to our next effort to cultivate more >>frequent pilotage, higher flour bombing accuracy, and an increased >>consumption of non plant food matter. >> >>We will be serving lunch to you on Saturday, June 5, 2004. >> >>I'll make available sheet metal tools & aluminum for anyone wanting >>their 1st exposure to metal work. For those interested in alternative >>engines, I'll try ot hav a Mazda rotary opened up for inspection. >>Formation flight teams are invited to attend & demonstrate their skills. >>(Mike Stewart, are you listening?) Plaques will be awarde for flour >>bombing, longest distance flown, & other categories & as determined by >>our totally biased judges. >> >>Anyone wishing to arrive on Friday and/or stay until Sunday is welcome >>to do so. Just throw a bedrool in your plane/car & we will find yo a >>place to sleep that's out of the heat. There are lots of spare bedrooms, >>hangar apartments, floor space, etc. available with the sponsoring >>families. We will do continental breakfast stuff in the morning & poll >>the participants for evening meal decisions. Some of our pilots actually >>consider themselves multitalented & encourage you to bring your musical >>instrument of choice for some homegrown music in the evening. >> >>Now for the details: >> >>Disclaimer: Slobovia is a private airport. Pilots operate at their own >> >> >risk. > > >>You can get complete info about our airport at airnav.com >>http://www.airnav.com/airport/MS71 >> >>FAA Identifier: MS71 >>Lat/Long: 32-29-42.508N / 090-17-34.325W >>32-29.70847N / 090-17.57208W >>32.4951411 / -90.2928681 >>(estimated) >>Elevation: 250 ft. / 76 m (estimated) >>Variation: 03E (1985) >> From city: 1 mile N of POCAHONTAS, MS (10 miles N of Jackson MS) >> >> Airport Operations >> >>Airport use: Private use. Permission required prior to landing >>Activation date: 11/1988 >>Sectional chart: MEMPHIS >> >> >> ><http://www.airnav.com/ad/click/taHR0cDovL3d3dy5hdnNob3.uY29tL3NlY3Rpb25hbGN >oYXJ0cy5odG1sP3Jl+LZj05MyBhdnNob3..> > > >>Control tower: no >>ARTCC: MEMPHIS CENTER >>FSS: GREENWOOD FLIGHT SERVICE STATION [1-800-WX-BRIEF] >>Attendance: UNATNDD >>Wind indicator: yes >>Segmented circle: no >>Lights: RDO REQ >>Beacon: unknown >> >> >> Airport Communications >> >>UNICOM: 122.75 >>WX ASOS at HKS (10 nm S): 120.625 (601-354-4037) >>WX ASOS at JAN (16 nm SE): PHONE 601-932-2822 >> >> >> Nearby radio navigation aids >> >>VOR radial/distance VOR name Freq Var >>JAN >> >> >> ><http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid-info?id=JAN&type=VORTAC&name=JACKSON>r >258/6.4 > > >> JACKSON VORTAC >> 112.60 >> 05E >> >> Runway Information >> >> >> Runway 15/33 >> >>Dimensions: 3540 x 80 ft. / 1079 x 24 m >>Surface: turf >> >> RUNWAY 15 RUNWAY 33 >>Traffic pattern: left >> left >>Obstructions: 70 ft. trees, 200 ft. from runway >> none >> >>If you need driving directions or more info, feel free to email me at >>cengland@netdoor.com >>or call at 601-879-9596. >> >>Charlie >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 06:47:23 PM PST US
    From: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
    Subject: Re: Altimeter Adjustment
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com> I have one that needs adjustment also. But mine is off by 900 feet. That's why I like my GPS. Brett


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    Time: 07:51:40 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
    Subject: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com> On radio controlled plane contests we used a container that was rubber banded on the top of the plane and did a roll or a half loop to drop the bomb. You could use a bucket duct taped to the top of the fusalage and a 5 pound flour bag. That would make for a good challenge! Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charlie & Tupper England Subject: Re: RV-List: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> Well Tom, I'm really not supposed to talk about it, but you know those new rules about not flying over nuclear power plants? OOPS... Already said too much. I've got a buddy who could lay down a perfect line of water balloon hits from his C-140 using a pvc pipe bomb bay. Think outside the cabin...er....box. Charlie Tom Gummo wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> > >Charlie, > >Has anybody have a system for flour bombing from an RV?? All the RVs I >know, don't have a window or any other means to drop the flour. > >Tom Gummo >Apple Valley, CA >Harmon Rocket-II > >do not archive > >http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Charlie & Tupper England" <cengland@netdoor.com> >To: "Kerr, Bernie" <kerrjb@msn.com>; "lane, kevin " <n3773@comcast.net>; >"Lassen, Finn " <finnlassen@netzero.net>; "Mars, Sam " ><sammars@bellsouth.net>; "Powell, Ken" <kenpowell@alltel.net>; "Powell, ken >" <kenpowell@comcast.net>; "Presson, Bill " <wpresson@netdoor.com>; >"Richardson, Coley " <coleyrich@juno.com>; "Roberts, Monty" ><montyr2157@alltel.net>; "RV list" <rv-list@matronics.com>; ><rv7-list@matronics.com>; "Sanders Herb" <hsanders@bellsouth.net>; "Scott, >Jonathan " <jonscott.ms@netzero.net>; "Stall, Kendall " ><kstall@stcharles.k12.la.us>; "thorplist" <thorplist@onelist.com> >Subject: RV-List: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England >> >> ><cengland@netdoor.com> > > >>Greetings Fellow Aviators, >> >>The Lower Slobovia Outernational Garden Club would like to extend to You >>and Yours a cordial invitation to our next effort to cultivate more >>frequent pilotage, higher flour bombing accuracy, and an increased >>consumption of non plant food matter. >> >>We will be serving lunch to you on Saturday, June 5, 2004. >> >>I'll make available sheet metal tools & aluminum for anyone wanting >>their 1st exposure to metal work. For those interested in alternative >>engines, I'll try ot hav a Mazda rotary opened up for inspection. >>Formation flight teams are invited to attend & demonstrate their skills. >>(Mike Stewart, are you listening?) Plaques will be awarde for flour >>bombing, longest distance flown, & other categories & as determined by >>our totally biased judges. >> >>Anyone wishing to arrive on Friday and/or stay until Sunday is welcome >>to do so. Just throw a bedrool in your plane/car & we will find yo a >>place to sleep that's out of the heat. There are lots of spare bedrooms, >>hangar apartments, floor space, etc. available with the sponsoring >>families. We will do continental breakfast stuff in the morning & poll >>the participants for evening meal decisions. Some of our pilots actually >>consider themselves multitalented & encourage you to bring your musical >>instrument of choice for some homegrown music in the evening. >> >>Now for the details: >> >>Disclaimer: Slobovia is a private airport. Pilots operate at their own >> >> >risk. > > >>You can get complete info about our airport at airnav.com >>http://www.airnav.com/airport/MS71 >> >>FAA Identifier: MS71 >>Lat/Long: 32-29-42.508N / 090-17-34.325W >>32-29.70847N / 090-17.57208W >>32.4951411 / -90.2928681 >>(estimated) >>Elevation: 250 ft. / 76 m (estimated) >>Variation: 03E (1985) >> From city: 1 mile N of POCAHONTAS, MS (10 miles N of Jackson MS) >> >> Airport Operations >> >>Airport use: Private use. Permission required prior to landing >>Activation date: 11/1988 >>Sectional chart: MEMPHIS >> >> >> ><http://www.airnav.com/ad/click/taHR0cDovL3d3dy5hdnNob3.uY29tL3NlY3Rpb25hbG N >oYXJ0cy5odG1sP3Jl+LZj05MyBhdnNob3..> > > >>Control tower: no >>ARTCC: MEMPHIS CENTER >>FSS: GREENWOOD FLIGHT SERVICE STATION [1-800-WX-BRIEF] >>Attendance: UNATNDD >>Wind indicator: yes >>Segmented circle: no >>Lights: RDO REQ >>Beacon: unknown >> >> >> Airport Communications >> >>UNICOM: 122.75 >>WX ASOS at HKS (10 nm S): 120.625 (601-354-4037) >>WX ASOS at JAN (16 nm SE): PHONE 601-932-2822 >> >> >> Nearby radio navigation aids >> >>VOR radial/distance VOR name Freq Var >>JAN >> >> >> ><http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid-info?id=JAN&type=VORTAC&name=JACKSON> r >258/6.4 > > >> JACKSON VORTAC >> 112.60 >> 05E >> >> Runway Information >> >> >> Runway 15/33 >> >>Dimensions: 3540 x 80 ft. / 1079 x 24 m >>Surface: turf >> >> RUNWAY 15 RUNWAY 33 >>Traffic pattern: left >> left >>Obstructions: 70 ft. trees, 200 ft. from runway >> none >> >>If you need driving directions or more info, feel free to email me at >>cengland@netdoor.com >>or call at 601-879-9596. >> >>Charlie >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:38:50 PM PST US
    From: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
    Subject: Re: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!!
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com> There are disadvantages to that technique when your airboss's day job is FAA air traffic controller. :-) Charlie Brian Kraut wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com> > >On radio controlled plane contests we used a container that was rubber >banded on the top of the plane and did a roll or a half loop to drop the >bomb. You could use a bucket duct taped to the top of the fusalage and a 5 >pound flour bag. That would make for a good challenge! > >Brian Kraut >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >www.engalt.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charlie & Tupper >England >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! > > >--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England ><cengland@netdoor.com> > >Well Tom, I'm really not supposed to talk about it, but you know those >new rules about not flying over nuclear power plants? OOPS... Already >said too much. > >I've got a buddy who could lay down a perfect line of water balloon hits >from his C-140 using a pvc pipe bomb bay. > >Think outside the cabin...er....box. > >Charlie > > >Tom Gummo wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> >> >>Charlie, >> >>Has anybody have a system for flour bombing from an RV?? All the RVs I >>know, don't have a window or any other means to drop the flour. >> >>Tom Gummo >>Apple Valley, CA >>Harmon Rocket-II >> >>do not archive >> >>http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Charlie & Tupper England" <cengland@netdoor.com> >>To: "Kerr, Bernie" <kerrjb@msn.com>; "lane, kevin " <n3773@comcast.net>; >>"Lassen, Finn " <finnlassen@netzero.net>; "Mars, Sam " >><sammars@bellsouth.net>; "Powell, Ken" <kenpowell@alltel.net>; "Powell, ken >>" <kenpowell@comcast.net>; "Presson, Bill " <wpresson@netdoor.com>; >>"Richardson, Coley " <coleyrich@juno.com>; "Roberts, Monty" >><montyr2157@alltel.net>; "RV list" <rv-list@matronics.com>; >><rv7-list@matronics.com>; "Sanders Herb" <hsanders@bellsouth.net>; "Scott, >>Jonathan " <jonscott.ms@netzero.net>; "Stall, Kendall " >><kstall@stcharles.k12.la.us>; "thorplist" <thorplist@onelist.com> >>Subject: RV-List: Party time at Slobovia Outernational Airport!! >> >> >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England >>> >>> >>> >>> >><cengland@netdoor.com> >> >> >> >> >>>Greetings Fellow Aviators, >>> >>>The Lower Slobovia Outernational Garden Club would like to extend to You >>>and Yours a cordial invitation to our next effort to cultivate more >>>frequent pilotage, higher flour bombing accuracy, and an increased >>>consumption of non plant food matter. >>> >>>We will be serving lunch to you on Saturday, June 5, 2004. >>> >>>I'll make available sheet metal tools & aluminum for anyone wanting >>>their 1st exposure to metal work. For those interested in alternative >>>engines, I'll try ot hav a Mazda rotary opened up for inspection. >>>Formation flight teams are invited to attend & demonstrate their skills. >>>(Mike Stewart, are you listening?) Plaques will be awarde for flour >>>bombing, longest distance flown, & other categories & as determined by >>>our totally biased judges. >>> >>>Anyone wishing to arrive on Friday and/or stay until Sunday is welcome >>>to do so. Just throw a bedrool in your plane/car & we will find yo a >>>place to sleep that's out of the heat. There are lots of spare bedrooms, >>>hangar apartments, floor space, etc. available with the sponsoring >>>families. We will do continental breakfast stuff in the morning & poll >>>the participants for evening meal decisions. Some of our pilots actually >>>consider themselves multitalented & encourage you to bring your musical >>>instrument of choice for some homegrown music in the evening. >>> >>>Now for the details: >>> >>>Disclaimer: Slobovia is a private airport. Pilots operate at their own >>> >>> >>> >>> >>risk. >> >> >> >> >>>You can get complete info about our airport at airnav.com >>>http://www.airnav.com/airport/MS71 >>> >>>FAA Identifier: MS71 >>>Lat/Long: 32-29-42.508N / 090-17-34.325W >>>32-29.70847N / 090-17.57208W >>>32.4951411 / -90.2928681 >>>(estimated) >>>Elevation: 250 ft. / 76 m (estimated) >>>Variation: 03E (1985) >>>From city: 1 mile N of POCAHONTAS, MS (10 miles N of Jackson MS) >>> >>> Airport Operations >>> >>>Airport use: Private use. Permission required prior to landing >>>Activation date: 11/1988 >>>Sectional chart: MEMPHIS >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >><http://www.airnav.com/ad/click/taHR0cDovL3d3dy5hdnNob3.uY29tL3NlY3Rpb25hbG >> >> >N > > >>oYXJ0cy5odG1sP3Jl+LZj05MyBhdnNob3..> >> >> >> >> >>>Control tower: no >>>ARTCC: MEMPHIS CENTER >>>FSS: GREENWOOD FLIGHT SERVICE STATION [1-800-WX-BRIEF] >>>Attendance: UNATNDD >>>Wind indicator: yes >>>Segmented circle: no >>>Lights: RDO REQ >>>Beacon: unknown >>> >>> >>> Airport Communications >>> >>>UNICOM: 122.75 >>>WX ASOS at HKS (10 nm S): 120.625 (601-354-4037) >>>WX ASOS at JAN (16 nm SE): PHONE 601-932-2822 >>> >>> >>> Nearby radio navigation aids >>> >>>VOR radial/distance VOR name Freq Var >>>JAN >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >><http://www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/navaid-info?id=JAN&type=VORTAC&name=JACKSON> >> >> >r > > >>258/6.4 >> >> >> >> >>> JACKSON VORTAC >>> 112.60 >>> 05E >>> >>> Runway Information >>> >>> >>> Runway 15/33 >>> >>>Dimensions: 3540 x 80 ft. / 1079 x 24 m >>>Surface: turf >>> >>> RUNWAY 15 RUNWAY 33 >>>Traffic pattern: left >>> left >>>Obstructions: 70 ft. trees, 200 ft. from runway >>> none >>> >>>If you need driving directions or more info, feel free to email me at >>>cengland@netdoor.com >>>or call at 601-879-9596. >>> >>>Charlie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >




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