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1. 04:56 AM - Re: FAB (Harvey Sigmon)
2. 05:10 AM - Re: RV-Liist Catto Props (Ronnie Brown)
3. 05:45 AM - Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? (John Huft)
4. 05:50 AM - Re: Alternator belt size (Steve Struyk)
5. 06:46 AM - Questions about Fradulent Engine Builder (Noel Strong)
6. 07:47 AM - Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? (Randy Lervold)
7. 07:49 AM - Re: Alternator belt size (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
8. 07:59 AM - Re: FAB (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
9. 10:47 AM - Rotary Engine Discussions at Sun 'n Fun (jgburns)
10. 11:34 AM - Re: Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? (Bluecavu@aol.com)
11. 12:15 PM - Harmonic Balancer (Jim Nolan)
12. 12:43 PM - Re: Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? (Rvsearey@aol.com)
13. 01:37 PM - [ Bob Olds ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
14. 03:18 PM - Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? (Nick N)
15. 03:38 PM - Fuel tank leaks (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
16. 04:07 PM - Re: Fuel tank leaks (Kyle Boatright)
17. 04:09 PM - Re: Fuel tank leaks (Harvey Sigmon)
18. 04:48 PM - Fast Day (Warren W Hurd)
19. 04:57 PM - Re: Stick - panel interference (JhnstnIII@aol.com)
20. 05:58 PM - HID Upgrade ? (Matt Jurotich)
21. 06:05 PM - RV-8 U-803 Bolts (FATKORAT@aol.com)
22. 07:47 PM - Re: Re: Stick - panel interference (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
23. 08:51 PM - Anyone heard of an RV-4 w/ an O-290 on it ? (C. Rabaut)
24. 09:13 PM - Oil/gas leak out of Bendix Servo (Shemp)
25. 09:17 PM - Re: Fuel tank leaks (Shemp)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@comcast.net>
Larry: I had a similar problem on my last RV, what I did was elongate the
holes on the mounting plate so I could slip the fab box over to align with
the cowl. Hope this helps.
Harvey Sigmon RV-6A N602RV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
<rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: FAB
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Thanks for all the input on the filtered air box. With the prop back on
> the plane, I see I can easily get the cowl off/on with the FAB shortened
> to 15.75 inches.
>
> That's the good news. The bad news is the clearance between the FAB and
> the cowl air scoop. The left side of the FAB is nearly touching the
> cowl. One guy said this was not an unusual problem. The best solution
> I can think of is to fabricate another mounting plate, moving everything
> over a 1/2". This will put the filter and opening for the carb off
> center with the base of the carb. I don't think that will create any
> problems. Do you? Anyone else have to do this?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
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Subject: | RE: RV-Liist Catto Props |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ronnie Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
I have a Catto three blade on my Velocity and have been extremely pleased with
the quality and ruggedness. (Stuff tends to go through the rear mounted prop!)
IMHO, a better value than the Performance props and tougher too.
Craig Catto builds props for some of the Reno air racers. And I believe there is at least one Velocity/Lycoming IO540 with a Catto on it. See http://www.cattoprops.com/ .
I would think the RV10 would do just fine with a fixed pitch Catto on it. And
at 1/5 the cost and complexity of a constant speed prop, might be worth it!
Ronnie Brown
Time: 01:34:27 PM PST US
From: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Catto Props
--> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>
You're putting a fixed pitch prop on an IO-540? In a -10?
Mike
Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR
13B in gestation mode
At 12:29 2004-04-08, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons"
><noel@blueskyaviation.net>
>
>I flew an RV-9A with a Catto prop for a while. I will be putting one on my
>RV-10.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Noel Simmons
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Subject: | Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
I also purchased this material, put it on, and have had no problems in 1 1/2
years it has been on.
John Huft
RV8 flying
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
>
> I purchased Cleaveland Aircraft Tool gareshield material (vinyl), but has
> since heard that it may out-gas and be bad for the canopy. Is there any
body
> out there with actual bad experience, or is this just theoretical ?
>
> Thanks,
> Amit.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alternator belt size |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
Amit,
I have that combo installed. I'll be at the hangar today and check on the
belt size. I do know it's a Gates belt, but I'm not sure what size. I'll let
you know.
Do not archive.
Steve Struyk
RV-8
Fiberglass work, waiting for avionics
St. Charles, MO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Alternator belt size
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
>
> If there is anybody out there with an 0-360 (9 and 3/4" pully) and Vans
> 60Amp aternator,
> could you please tell me which size belt you found best fits this combo?
>
> Thanks,
> Amit.
>
>
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Subject: | Questions about Fradulent Engine Builder |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel Strong" <nstrong01@msn.com>
As a late response to the question about the Fraudulent Engine Builder. Whenever
I want to learn something about a company/individual/products, I do a quick
web search. I will go to Google. Type the individual/company full name in quotes
in the search window i.e.: "First Middle Last". And many times items show
up.
Since there is no way to validate the posting without further research, including
contacting the person who posted the original information you might want to
view the information with a "grain of salt".
In this case, you may find a posting. Check it out. You will not have the same
results using the MSN search engine.
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Subject: | Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Amit, if you're talking about the edging, I installed it four years ago and
with 368 hrs no problem or any sign of outgassing (scummy film on the
windscreen) whatsoever.
Randy Lervold
RV-8 sold
RV-3B building (www.romeolima.com/RV3factory)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
>
> I also purchased this material, put it on, and have had no problems in 1
1/2
> years it has been on.
>
> John Huft
> RV8 flying
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
> To: <rv-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
> >
> > I purchased Cleaveland Aircraft Tool gareshield material (vinyl), but
has
> > since heard that it may out-gas and be bad for the canopy. Is there any
> body
> > out there with actual bad experience, or is this just theoretical ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amit.
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alternator belt size |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Amit,
NAPA (Gates) PREMIUM XL 25-7350.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (almost done)
In a message dated 4/9/04 8:12:42 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
amitdagan@hotmail.com writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
>
> If there is anybody out there with an 0-360 (9 and 3/4" pully) and Vans
> 60Amp aternator,
> could you please tell me which size belt you found best fits this combo?
>
> Thanks,
> Amit.
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Larry, Just got done doing this on my RV6-A with 0360-A1A and it works
great! Another plus is you now have a straighter shot of air to the air
box......less bends more performance!!
Tom in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
<rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: FAB
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
>
> The best solution
> I can think of is to fabricate another mounting plate, moving everything
> over a 1/2". This will put the filter and opening for the carb off
> center with the base of the carb. I don't think that will create any
> problems. Do you? Anyone else have to do this?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
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Subject: | Rotary Engine Discussions at Sun 'n Fun |
--> RV-List message posted by: "jgburns" <jgburns@comcast.net>
Some rotary engine enthusiasts plan on meeting in the Sun 'n Fun engine forum tent
next Tuesday and Saturday (12:30 to 1:30). While you're likely to find someone
around the engine forum tent each day during the event, two times were set
aside to discuss rotary engine subsystem issues. Please share your knowledge,
questions, and concerns. For more information check out this webpage:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jgburns/Engine/Sun-n-fun-rotary.html and http://www.rotaryaviation.com/events.html
Cheers,
John Burns
Albuquerque, NM
RV-7A QB
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Subject: | Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com
The underlying issue was discussed extensively in the recent past.=A0 This
has to do with what the FAA authorizes at the time of the inspection.
In essence, they give you an airworthiness certificate that states,
"After completion of phase I flight testing, unless appropriately
equipped for night and/or instrument flight as listed in 14CFR, Part
91.205 (b through e), this aircraft is to be operated under day only
VFR."
Thanks for the great info guys... This was the impression I was under,
although I've heard different things coming from different FSDO's (as usual). I
don't think my airworthiness reads as above though -I need to check. I don't think
the 'unless' is included in the wording on mine -In which case I'd need a new
one -and a fed to issue it (inspection -ugh.). I need to go read it
carefully.
Anyway, I just wanted to hear from some of you and get an idea of what to
expect in the real world... I just don't want to be out there past the edge of
legality and have some mishap and end up having my insurance be void and be
violated by the feds cause they ruled that the aircraft "technically" wasn't
approved for IFR.
Scott
N4ZW
do not archive
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Subject: | Harmonic Balancer |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" <jamespnolan@earthlink.net>
Listers,
I have a Mark Landoll Harmonic Balancer, a Steel Ring, and the
Aerobatic Plate to use with it. I had all the above installed on my 0-320
E3D engine. I also have the 4 inch prop extension to go with it. When I
replaced the wood prop because of IFR use, I found out the Sensenich Prop,
Sensenich extension, backing plate and Spinner weighed one pound less than
what I'd taken off. On tandem RV's this really helps to move the CG forward.
I'll sell the whole Mark Landoll setup for $350.00. You pay shipping.
I'll sell the 4 inch extension for $100.00. You pay shipping.
If you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me off list.
Jim Nolan
N444JN
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rvsearey@aol.com
Scott, I just went through the process of getting new operating limitations
for my RV-4. (I needed exact wording to include IFR). If you go to the EAA web
site you will find a sample letter with the exact wording necessary to get
the new limitations. The FAA person I worked with did not have any experience
with experimentals and he said I actually did all the work for him. He did
want to look at the aircraft (although the 8130 handbook specifically states an
inspection is not necessary), but it was just a quick look see to assure him
that the aircraft was appropriately equipped. All in all it was pretty
painless.
Dan Decker
RV-4 Flying and just sold.
Received RV-7 tail kit one week later.
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Subject: | [ Bob Olds ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Bob Olds <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
Subject: Two more of the Very Best RV's
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Oldsfolks@aol.com.04.10.2004/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures@matronics.com
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Subject: | Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" <rvator@nicknaf.com>
As long as it doesn't actually touch the canopy you should be fine. We
have a Glasair locally that has a padded vinyl glare shield, with the
first 1"-2" pushed up against the canopy. Now whether from heat (the
vinyl is black) or out-gassing I don't know, but he has micro cracks
everywhere the vinyl touches. Needless to say, he's not a happy
camper. FWIW, the airplanes aprox 3 years old and the cracks started
about 1.5 years ago.
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Amit Dagan
Subject: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
I purchased Cleaveland Aircraft Tool gareshield material (vinyl), but
has
since heard that it may out-gas and be bad for the canopy. Is there any
body
out there with actual bad experience, or is this just theoretical ?
Thanks,
Amit.
==
==
==
==
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--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
Hello all,
Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could.
Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address.
I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to be .
leaking at the rivits.
In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to send
the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to the
RV tank
as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old tank
would be a mess to deal with.
Any input ?
Thanks
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
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Subject: | Re: Fuel tank leaks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Fixing a problem tank would be much less work than building a new one. There
are numerous suggestions in the RV list archives on how to fix a leaking
tank.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: <CBRxxDRV@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks
> --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
> Hello all,
>
> Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could.
> Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address.
> I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to
be .
> leaking at the rivits.
> In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to
send
> the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to
the
> RV tank
> as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old
tank
> would be a mess to deal with.
>
> Any input ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sal Capra
> Lakeland, FL
> My Home Page
> http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Fuel tank leaks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@comcast.net>
Sal: The thing to consider with buying an older RV is the tanks, back in
the early 90's we used tank sealer and then used a sloshing solution. This
stuff can be a problem when you have to do repairs, this slosh has a white
plastic appearance and is hard like plastic. Van quit using it a few years
ago, myself I would replace the tanks, I think there are people that repair
the tanks by cutting access plates in each bay at the rear bulkhead. Big
project. I hope this helps.
Harvey Sigmon RV-6A N602RV
----- Original Message -----
From: <CBRxxDRV@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks
> --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
> Hello all,
>
> Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could.
> Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address.
> I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to
be .
> leaking at the rivits.
> In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to
send
> the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to
the
> RV tank
> as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old
tank
> would be a mess to deal with.
>
> Any input ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sal Capra
> Lakeland, FL
> My Home Page
> http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Warren W Hurd <warren@ahyup.com>
I will try and keep this simple, I am building an RV and I joined the
local EAA chapter... They elected me president. Well, I decided to have
a fly-in on Fast Day. The term fast day comes from not eating on a
particular day up here in New Hampshire, but I have a tendency to
interpret it differently. We do not have a lot to offer just a 6000 foot
runway and a clean rest room. We hope to have a barbecue, one of our
members has a barbecue on a trailer that he may bring. No rain date,
but we do have a ILS so if the weather is lousy we will see if any IFR
folk show up. As an added attraction if the weather is real nice some
rather proficient RC builders will give a demo. This would even include
the mowing of some grass with a helicopter using its rotor blades. (I
have yet to see it done). This is not an RV flyin, the New England RV
chapter will be holding their fly in on June 12th. So invite anybody
that feels like flying to come on by. As a disclaimer the EAA says I
should not encourage anybody to fly fast on Fast Day as it could be
considered racing. So be mellow and take it easy. As a side note Fast
day was started in 1681, to help the health of the governor back then.
Well he died. The holiday had continued for several hundred years. So
stop by and have a bite to eat on Fast Day.
More at http://www.ahyup.com/fast/
Warren Hurd
Still working on the wings
http://www.ahyup.com
90454
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Subject: | Re: Stick - panel interference |
--> RV-List message posted by: JhnstnIII@aol.com
Listers--I am posting this in case it will help others avoid a problem. We
are building an RV-6. We built a 2 1/2 inch sub panel all the way across the
bottom of the instrument panel (to get more panel space). The sub panel
surface is in the same plane as the main panel surface (ie., not inset forward).
The stick grips we ordered had a forward angle to them. We discovered to our
dismay that with the sticks at their forward limit, the stick grips interfered
with things on the subpanel Iike the ignition key on the left side and the
mixture control knob on the right side. We are now ordering straight grips (Ray
Allens) that should solve the problem. Suggest if you are installing a
subpanel that you set it forward and be careful about stick intererfence, especially
with grips that angle forward. We had already shortened our sticks and
although we tweaked the stick positions there was not enough adjustment available
to allow us to keep our original stick grips. --LeRoy Johnston/Dave White RV-6
project, Columbus OH. Finishing panel wiring, engine/cowl is next.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
I recently purchased the HID upgrade kit from Duckworks. There is a key
(slot) in the replacement mounting bracket. I assume this key is blue side
up (toward top of wing). Anybody know for sure? Don and Janet have not
answered me and the instructions are not crystal clear.
Matthew M. Jurotich
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
JWST ISIM Systems Engineer
m/c : 443
e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
phone : 301-286-5919
fax : 301-286-7021
JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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Subject: | RV-8 U-803 Bolts |
--> RV-List message posted by: FATKORAT@aol.com
While attempting to torque the bolts through the U-803 Outside Gear Mounting
Bracket I discovered 2 problems. First one of the 2 brackets has much more
than the prescribed .030 clearance over the wear plate. Is this a problem?
Second, the NAS 6206-27 Bolt has only .390 of thread and the prescribed AN
365-624A Locking nut is .450 thick. Thus, the bolt will never engage the nylon
locking portion of the bolt. Has anyone else had this problem?
Bob Gibbons
RV-8 ALMOST on Gear.
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Subject: | Re: Stick - panel interference |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Listers--I am posting this in case it will help others avoid a problem. We
are building an RV-6. We built a 2 1/2 inch sub panel all the way across the
bottom of the instrument panel (to get more panel space). The sub panel
surface is in the same plane as the main panel surface (ie., not inset
forward).
The stick grips we ordered had a forward angle to them. We discovered to our
dismay that with the sticks at their forward limit, the stick grips
interfered
with things on the subpanel Iike the ignition key on the left side and the
mixture control knob on the right side. We are now ordering straight grips
(Ray
Allens) that should solve the problem. <snyp>
Another option is to just shorten the sticks- I had the same condition with
my CH Products sticks and simply cut the tubes an inch shorter- actually they
are still a tad tall & they might get shorter yet! FWIW my sub panel IS inset
1.5" and is 1.5" tall- all cable controls reside there...
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark -6A N51PW
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Subject: | Anyone heard of an RV-4 w/ an O-290 on it ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Okay experts (and the rest of you),
Has anyone ever heard of an RV-4 with an O-290 mounted on the nose? Will
the same conical mount for the O-320 work for the O-290 also? How does an RV-4
fly (take-off, cruise, aerobatics, landing wise) with less than 150 HP ? Thanks,
in advance, for all replies.
Chuck
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Subject: | Oil/gas leak out of Bendix Servo |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Im wondering if anyone has seen this before.
I have a Bendix fi servo and Ive noticed some liquid seeping out of the
bottom of the servo on the top of the fab mounting plate upon shutdown. The
air cleaner also seems awful dark looking thru the fiberglass, oil? I call
it a "liquid" because I cant determine what it is. It seems to be a mix of
oil and fuel but I gave up on my rotax a long time ago:) Its a blueish
thick oilly mess. It also drips out of the bottom of the fab. I dont know
what to make of it.
Thanks
Jeff Dowling
RV-6a/ 58 hours
Chicago/ Louisville
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Subject: | Re: Fuel tank leaks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Look in one of the most recent RV-ators. There is a guy who will build your
tanks for you. Sounds like it may be worth the cost if you dont want to
mess with the mess.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: <CBRxxDRV@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks
> --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
> Hello all,
>
> Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could.
> Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address.
> I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to
be .
> leaking at the rivits.
> In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to
send
> the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to
the
> RV tank
> as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old
tank
> would be a mess to deal with.
>
> Any input ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sal Capra
> Lakeland, FL
> My Home Page
> http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
>
>
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