---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/10/04: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:56 AM - Re: FAB (Harvey Sigmon) 2. 05:10 AM - Re: RV-Liist Catto Props (Ronnie Brown) 3. 05:45 AM - Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? (John Huft) 4. 05:50 AM - Re: Alternator belt size (Steve Struyk) 5. 06:46 AM - Questions about Fradulent Engine Builder (Noel Strong) 6. 07:47 AM - Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? (Randy Lervold) 7. 07:49 AM - Re: Alternator belt size (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 8. 07:59 AM - Re: FAB (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 9. 10:47 AM - Rotary Engine Discussions at Sun 'n Fun (jgburns) 10. 11:34 AM - Re: Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? (Bluecavu@aol.com) 11. 12:15 PM - Harmonic Balancer (Jim Nolan) 12. 12:43 PM - Re: Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? (Rvsearey@aol.com) 13. 01:37 PM - [ Bob Olds ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 14. 03:18 PM - Re: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? (Nick N) 15. 03:38 PM - Fuel tank leaks (CBRxxDRV@aol.com) 16. 04:07 PM - Re: Fuel tank leaks (Kyle Boatright) 17. 04:09 PM - Re: Fuel tank leaks (Harvey Sigmon) 18. 04:48 PM - Fast Day (Warren W Hurd) 19. 04:57 PM - Re: Stick - panel interference (JhnstnIII@aol.com) 20. 05:58 PM - HID Upgrade ? (Matt Jurotich) 21. 06:05 PM - RV-8 U-803 Bolts (FATKORAT@aol.com) 22. 07:47 PM - Re: Re: Stick - panel interference (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 23. 08:51 PM - Anyone heard of an RV-4 w/ an O-290 on it ? (C. Rabaut) 24. 09:13 PM - Oil/gas leak out of Bendix Servo (Shemp) 25. 09:17 PM - Re: Fuel tank leaks (Shemp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:56 AM PST US From: "Harvey Sigmon" Subject: Re: RV-List: FAB --> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" Larry: I had a similar problem on my last RV, what I did was elongate the holes on the mounting plate so I could slip the fab box over to align with the cowl. Hope this helps. Harvey Sigmon RV-6A N602RV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RV-List: FAB > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > Thanks for all the input on the filtered air box. With the prop back on > the plane, I see I can easily get the cowl off/on with the FAB shortened > to 15.75 inches. > > That's the good news. The bad news is the clearance between the FAB and > the cowl air scoop. The left side of the FAB is nearly touching the > cowl. One guy said this was not an unusual problem. The best solution > I can think of is to fabricate another mounting plate, moving everything > over a 1/2". This will put the filter and opening for the carb off > center with the base of the carb. I don't think that will create any > problems. Do you? Anyone else have to do this? > > > Thanks, > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:23 AM PST US From: "Ronnie Brown" Subject: RV-List: RE: RV-Liist Catto Props --> RV-List message posted by: "Ronnie Brown" I have a Catto three blade on my Velocity and have been extremely pleased with the quality and ruggedness. (Stuff tends to go through the rear mounted prop!) IMHO, a better value than the Performance props and tougher too. Craig Catto builds props for some of the Reno air racers. And I believe there is at least one Velocity/Lycoming IO540 with a Catto on it. See http://www.cattoprops.com/ . I would think the RV10 would do just fine with a fixed pitch Catto on it. And at 1/5 the cost and complexity of a constant speed prop, might be worth it! Ronnie Brown Time: 01:34:27 PM PST US From: Michael McGee Subject: RE: RV-List: Catto Props --> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee You're putting a fixed pitch prop on an IO-540? In a -10? Mike Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR 13B in gestation mode At 12:29 2004-04-08, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" > > >I flew an RV-9A with a Catto prop for a while. I will be putting one on my >RV-10. > >Sincerely, > >Noel Simmons ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:06 AM PST US From: "John Huft" Subject: Re: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? --> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" I also purchased this material, put it on, and have had no problems in 1 1/2 years it has been on. John Huft RV8 flying ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amit Dagan" Subject: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" > > I purchased Cleaveland Aircraft Tool gareshield material (vinyl), but has > since heard that it may out-gas and be bad for the canopy. Is there any body > out there with actual bad experience, or is this just theoretical ? > > Thanks, > Amit. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:38 AM PST US From: "Steve Struyk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Alternator belt size --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" Amit, I have that combo installed. I'll be at the hangar today and check on the belt size. I do know it's a Gates belt, but I'm not sure what size. I'll let you know. Do not archive. Steve Struyk RV-8 Fiberglass work, waiting for avionics St. Charles, MO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amit Dagan" Subject: RV-List: Alternator belt size > --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" > > If there is anybody out there with an 0-360 (9 and 3/4" pully) and Vans > 60Amp aternator, > could you please tell me which size belt you found best fits this combo? > > Thanks, > Amit. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:11 AM PST US From: "Noel Strong" Subject: RV-List: Questions about Fradulent Engine Builder --> RV-List message posted by: "Noel Strong" As a late response to the question about the Fraudulent Engine Builder. Whenever I want to learn something about a company/individual/products, I do a quick web search. I will go to Google. Type the individual/company full name in quotes in the search window i.e.: "First Middle Last". And many times items show up. Since there is no way to validate the posting without further research, including contacting the person who posted the original information you might want to view the information with a "grain of salt". In this case, you may find a posting. Check it out. You will not have the same results using the MSN search engine. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:14 AM PST US From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: Re: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" Amit, if you're talking about the edging, I installed it four years ago and with 368 hrs no problem or any sign of outgassing (scummy film on the windscreen) whatsoever. Randy Lervold RV-8 sold RV-3B building (www.romeolima.com/RV3factory) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Huft" Subject: Re: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? > --> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" > > I also purchased this material, put it on, and have had no problems in 1 1/2 > years it has been on. > > John Huft > RV8 flying > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amit Dagan" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" > > > > I purchased Cleaveland Aircraft Tool gareshield material (vinyl), but has > > since heard that it may out-gas and be bad for the canopy. Is there any > body > > out there with actual bad experience, or is this just theoretical ? > > > > Thanks, > > Amit. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:08 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Alternator belt size --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Amit, NAPA (Gates) PREMIUM XL 25-7350. Dan Hopper RV-7A (almost done) In a message dated 4/9/04 8:12:42 PM US Eastern Standard Time, amitdagan@hotmail.com writes: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" > > If there is anybody out there with an 0-360 (9 and 3/4" pully) and Vans > 60Amp aternator, > could you please tell me which size belt you found best fits this combo? > > Thanks, > Amit. > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:44 AM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: FAB --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Larry, Just got done doing this on my RV6-A with 0360-A1A and it works great! Another plus is you now have a straighter shot of air to the air box......less bends more performance!! Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RV-List: FAB > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > The best solution > I can think of is to fabricate another mounting plate, moving everything > over a 1/2". This will put the filter and opening for the carb off > center with the base of the carb. I don't think that will create any > problems. Do you? Anyone else have to do this? > > > Thanks, > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:06 AM PST US From: "jgburns" Subject: RV-List: Rotary Engine Discussions at Sun 'n Fun --> RV-List message posted by: "jgburns" Some rotary engine enthusiasts plan on meeting in the Sun 'n Fun engine forum tent next Tuesday and Saturday (12:30 to 1:30). While you're likely to find someone around the engine forum tent each day during the event, two times were set aside to discuss rotary engine subsystem issues. Please share your knowledge, questions, and concerns. For more information check out this webpage: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jgburns/Engine/Sun-n-fun-rotary.html and http://www.rotaryaviation.com/events.html Cheers, John Burns Albuquerque, NM RV-7A QB ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:34:43 AM PST US From: Bluecavu@aol.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? --> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com The underlying issue was discussed extensively in the recent past.=A0 This has to do with what the FAA authorizes at the time of the inspection. In essence, they give you an airworthiness certificate that states, "After completion of phase I flight testing, unless appropriately equipped for night and/or instrument flight as listed in 14CFR, Part 91.205 (b through e), this aircraft is to be operated under day only VFR." Thanks for the great info guys... This was the impression I was under, although I've heard different things coming from different FSDO's (as usual). I don't think my airworthiness reads as above though -I need to check. I don't think the 'unless' is included in the wording on mine -In which case I'd need a new one -and a fed to issue it (inspection -ugh.). I need to go read it carefully. Anyway, I just wanted to hear from some of you and get an idea of what to expect in the real world... I just don't want to be out there past the edge of legality and have some mishap and end up having my insurance be void and be violated by the feds cause they ruled that the aircraft "technically" wasn't approved for IFR. Scott N4ZW do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:14 PM PST US From: "Jim Nolan" Subject: RV-List: Harmonic Balancer --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" Listers, I have a Mark Landoll Harmonic Balancer, a Steel Ring, and the Aerobatic Plate to use with it. I had all the above installed on my 0-320 E3D engine. I also have the 4 inch prop extension to go with it. When I replaced the wood prop because of IFR use, I found out the Sensenich Prop, Sensenich extension, backing plate and Spinner weighed one pound less than what I'd taken off. On tandem RV's this really helps to move the CG forward. I'll sell the whole Mark Landoll setup for $350.00. You pay shipping. I'll sell the 4 inch extension for $100.00. You pay shipping. If you have any questions or comments, please e-mail me off list. Jim Nolan N444JN do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:40 PM PST US From: Rvsearey@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Legal IFR panel w/ Dynon? --> RV-List message posted by: Rvsearey@aol.com Scott, I just went through the process of getting new operating limitations for my RV-4. (I needed exact wording to include IFR). If you go to the EAA web site you will find a sample letter with the exact wording necessary to get the new limitations. The FAA person I worked with did not have any experience with experimentals and he said I actually did all the work for him. He did want to look at the aircraft (although the 8130 handbook specifically states an inspection is not necessary), but it was just a quick look see to assure him that the aircraft was appropriately equipped. All in all it was pretty painless. Dan Decker RV-4 Flying and just sold. Received RV-7 tail kit one week later. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:37:53 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: [ Bob Olds ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Bob Olds Subject: Two more of the Very Best RV's http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Oldsfolks@aol.com.04.10.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:18:24 PM PST US From: "Nick N" Subject: RE: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? --> RV-List message posted by: "Nick N" As long as it doesn't actually touch the canopy you should be fine. We have a Glasair locally that has a padded vinyl glare shield, with the first 1"-2" pushed up against the canopy. Now whether from heat (the vinyl is black) or out-gassing I don't know, but he has micro cracks everywhere the vinyl touches. Needless to say, he's not a happy camper. FWIW, the airplanes aprox 3 years old and the cracks started about 1.5 years ago. Nick -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Amit Dagan Subject: RV-List: Glareshield vinyl - good/bad ? --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" I purchased Cleaveland Aircraft Tool gareshield material (vinyl), but has since heard that it may out-gas and be bad for the canopy. Is there any body out there with actual bad experience, or is this just theoretical ? Thanks, Amit. == == == == ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:38:53 PM PST US From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com Hello all, Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could. Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address. I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to be . leaking at the rivits. In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to send the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to the RV tank as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old tank would be a mess to deal with. Any input ? Thanks Sal Capra Lakeland, FL My Home Page http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:07:48 PM PST US From: "Kyle Boatright" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" Fixing a problem tank would be much less work than building a new one. There are numerous suggestions in the RV list archives on how to fix a leaking tank. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks > --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com > > Hello all, > > Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could. > Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address. > I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to be . > leaking at the rivits. > In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to send > the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to the > RV tank > as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old tank > would be a mess to deal with. > > Any input ? > > Thanks > > Sal Capra > Lakeland, FL > My Home Page > http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:17 PM PST US From: "Harvey Sigmon" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks --> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" Sal: The thing to consider with buying an older RV is the tanks, back in the early 90's we used tank sealer and then used a sloshing solution. This stuff can be a problem when you have to do repairs, this slosh has a white plastic appearance and is hard like plastic. Van quit using it a few years ago, myself I would replace the tanks, I think there are people that repair the tanks by cutting access plates in each bay at the rear bulkhead. Big project. I hope this helps. Harvey Sigmon RV-6A N602RV ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks > --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com > > Hello all, > > Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could. > Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address. > I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to be . > leaking at the rivits. > In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to send > the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to the > RV tank > as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old tank > would be a mess to deal with. > > Any input ? > > Thanks > > Sal Capra > Lakeland, FL > My Home Page > http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:33 PM PST US From: Warren W Hurd Subject: RV-List: Fast Day --> RV-List message posted by: Warren W Hurd I will try and keep this simple, I am building an RV and I joined the local EAA chapter... They elected me president. Well, I decided to have a fly-in on Fast Day. The term fast day comes from not eating on a particular day up here in New Hampshire, but I have a tendency to interpret it differently. We do not have a lot to offer just a 6000 foot runway and a clean rest room. We hope to have a barbecue, one of our members has a barbecue on a trailer that he may bring. No rain date, but we do have a ILS so if the weather is lousy we will see if any IFR folk show up. As an added attraction if the weather is real nice some rather proficient RC builders will give a demo. This would even include the mowing of some grass with a helicopter using its rotor blades. (I have yet to see it done). This is not an RV flyin, the New England RV chapter will be holding their fly in on June 12th. So invite anybody that feels like flying to come on by. As a disclaimer the EAA says I should not encourage anybody to fly fast on Fast Day as it could be considered racing. So be mellow and take it easy. As a side note Fast day was started in 1681, to help the health of the governor back then. Well he died. The holiday had continued for several hundred years. So stop by and have a bite to eat on Fast Day. More at http://www.ahyup.com/fast/ Warren Hurd Still working on the wings http://www.ahyup.com 90454 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:13 PM PST US From: JhnstnIII@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: Stick - panel interference --> RV-List message posted by: JhnstnIII@aol.com Listers--I am posting this in case it will help others avoid a problem. We are building an RV-6. We built a 2 1/2 inch sub panel all the way across the bottom of the instrument panel (to get more panel space). The sub panel surface is in the same plane as the main panel surface (ie., not inset forward). The stick grips we ordered had a forward angle to them. We discovered to our dismay that with the sticks at their forward limit, the stick grips interfered with things on the subpanel Iike the ignition key on the left side and the mixture control knob on the right side. We are now ordering straight grips (Ray Allens) that should solve the problem. Suggest if you are installing a subpanel that you set it forward and be careful about stick intererfence, especially with grips that angle forward. We had already shortened our sticks and although we tweaked the stick positions there was not enough adjustment available to allow us to keep our original stick grips. --LeRoy Johnston/Dave White RV-6 project, Columbus OH. Finishing panel wiring, engine/cowl is next. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:38 PM PST US From: Matt Jurotich Subject: RV-List: HID Upgrade ? --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich I recently purchased the HID upgrade kit from Duckworks. There is a key (slot) in the replacement mounting bracket. I assume this key is blue side up (toward top of wing). Anybody know for sure? Don and Janet have not answered me and the instructions are not crystal clear. Matthew M. Jurotich NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center JWST ISIM Systems Engineer m/c : 443 e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov phone : 301-286-5919 fax : 301-286-7021 JWST URL: ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:59 PM PST US From: FATKORAT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: RV-8 U-803 Bolts --> RV-List message posted by: FATKORAT@aol.com While attempting to torque the bolts through the U-803 Outside Gear Mounting Bracket I discovered 2 problems. First one of the 2 brackets has much more than the prescribed .030 clearance over the wear plate. Is this a problem? Second, the NAS 6206-27 Bolt has only .390 of thread and the prescribed AN 365-624A Locking nut is .450 thick. Thus, the bolt will never engage the nylon locking portion of the bolt. Has anyone else had this problem? Bob Gibbons RV-8 ALMOST on Gear. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:10 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Stick - panel interference --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com Listers--I am posting this in case it will help others avoid a problem. We are building an RV-6. We built a 2 1/2 inch sub panel all the way across the bottom of the instrument panel (to get more panel space). The sub panel surface is in the same plane as the main panel surface (ie., not inset forward). The stick grips we ordered had a forward angle to them. We discovered to our dismay that with the sticks at their forward limit, the stick grips interfered with things on the subpanel Iike the ignition key on the left side and the mixture control knob on the right side. We are now ordering straight grips (Ray Allens) that should solve the problem. Another option is to just shorten the sticks- I had the same condition with my CH Products sticks and simply cut the tubes an inch shorter- actually they are still a tad tall & they might get shorter yet! FWIW my sub panel IS inset 1.5" and is 1.5" tall- all cable controls reside there... From The PossumWorks in TN Mark -6A N51PW ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:17 PM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: RV-List: Anyone heard of an RV-4 w/ an O-290 on it ? --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Okay experts (and the rest of you), Has anyone ever heard of an RV-4 with an O-290 mounted on the nose? Will the same conical mount for the O-320 work for the O-290 also? How does an RV-4 fly (take-off, cruise, aerobatics, landing wise) with less than 150 HP ? Thanks, in advance, for all replies. Chuck ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:07 PM PST US From: "Shemp" Subject: RV-List: Oil/gas leak out of Bendix Servo --> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp" Im wondering if anyone has seen this before. I have a Bendix fi servo and Ive noticed some liquid seeping out of the bottom of the servo on the top of the fab mounting plate upon shutdown. The air cleaner also seems awful dark looking thru the fiberglass, oil? I call it a "liquid" because I cant determine what it is. It seems to be a mix of oil and fuel but I gave up on my rotax a long time ago:) Its a blueish thick oilly mess. It also drips out of the bottom of the fab. I dont know what to make of it. Thanks Jeff Dowling RV-6a/ 58 hours Chicago/ Louisville ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:47 PM PST US From: "Shemp" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks --> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp" Look in one of the most recent RV-ators. There is a guy who will build your tanks for you. Sounds like it may be worth the cost if you dont want to mess with the mess. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank leaks > --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com > > Hello all, > > Because of my quest for an RV I have been lurking to learn what I could. > Now it would seem I have a question that some may be able to address. > I have found an RV-4 (finished in 1991) with a fuel tank that appears to be . > leaking at the rivits. > In the past I had a Cherokee with this same problem and the fix was to send > the tanks off for resealing. I would assume that the same could be done to the > RV tank > as well as building or buy a new tank or ?? I am thinking that the old tank > would be a mess to deal with. > > Any input ? > > Thanks > > Sal Capra > Lakeland, FL > My Home Page > http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html > >