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1. 03:57 AM - Gun Bluing (Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E)
2. 04:05 AM - Re: Blown fuse-strange event. pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- (Richard Lundin)
3. 05:48 AM - Re: Gun Bluing (Larry Bowen)
4. 06:38 AM - VSI & Altimeter Flucuations (DAVID DAVENPORT)
5. 08:36 AM - Re: Blown fuse-strange event. pts rule name (Tim Bryan)
6. 09:44 AM - Re: Blown fuse-strange event. pts rule name (GLCole5475@aol.com)
7. 09:49 AM - Sun & Fun Accident? (Tracy Crook)
8. 01:44 PM - Re: Sun & Fun Accident? (Kyle Boatright)
9. 03:17 PM - Re: Gun Bluing (Hal / Carol Kempthorne)
10. 04:59 PM - Re: RV-8 flap motor interference (RV8ter@aol.com)
11. 05:01 PM - Re: Sun & Fun Accident? (PASSPAT@aol.com)
12. 06:22 PM - Re: Sun & Fun Accident? (James E. Clark)
13. 07:15 PM - 1st friendly reminder - Twin Cities RV Fly-In (Doug Weiler)
14. 08:08 PM - Re: Sun & Fun Accident? (Finn Lassen)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E" <richard.j.gould@navy.mil>
From: "Jim Bower" <rvbuilder@hotmail.com>
> Forgive me if somebody else has posted this idea.
> the resultant bare steel is vulnerable, and who wants to add thickness with paint?
> Try gun bluing. You can get a little plastic bottle of the stuff for a few
> bucks at Wal-Mart, and it works great.
>
> Jim Bower
What a great idea! Simple, cheap and effective! I never would have thought of it.
Thanks for the tip!
Rick Gould
RV-4 Camarillo, CA
FLY NAVY!
__I__
--O--O--( )--O--O--
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| Subject: | Re: Blown fuse-strange event. pts rule name description |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin <rlundin46@yahoo.com>
I think you need to check the voltage at the plug,
while you have a load on it. My guess is you have a
bad connection/soldier joint somewhere in the wiring.
That causes a voltage drop, which causes excess
amperage draw.
Good luck,
Rick Lundin
RV-8 Tail done, wings on order
--- Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig
> <larywil@comcast.net>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I have two cigarette lighter type power sockets in
> my RV-4. Both are
> breaker protected at 5 amps. #1 socket powers my
> GPS, and #2 socket powers
> my ANR headset. A few weeks ago, the 2 amp fuse
> contained in the male power
> plug of my GPS blew. I changed it and a few hours
> later, it blew again. The
> breaker on my panel never blew.
>
> I switched the two devices, and the GPS has worked
> fine. But today the ANR
> power plug fuse blew.
>
> The problem is not in the devices used but seems to
> be in the power
> socket/wiring system. How can this be? Any ideas
> before I spend three
> hours tearing apart my honey?
>
> Thanks in advance. Louis
>
>
> -
> Louis I Willig
> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
> Penn Valley, PA 19072
> 610 668-4964
> RV-4, N180PF
> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I've never heard of this stuff, but Google turned up this:
http://www.shootersolutions.com/vaningunblu.html
If it's made by Van's it must be good.....
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, last 90%
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E
> [mailto:richard.j.gould@navy.mil]
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 6:57 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Gun Bluing
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC
> --> 561000E" <richard.j.gould@navy.mil>
>
> From: "Jim Bower" <rvbuilder@hotmail.com>
>
> > Forgive me if somebody else has posted this idea.
> > the resultant bare steel is vulnerable, and who wants to
> add thickness with paint?
> > Try gun bluing. You can get a little plastic bottle of the
> stuff for a few
> > bucks at Wal-Mart, and it works great.
> >
> > Jim Bower
> What a great idea! Simple, cheap and effective! I never would
> have thought of it. Thanks for the tip!
>
> Rick Gould
> RV-4 Camarillo, CA
> FLY NAVY!
> __I__
> --O--O--( )--O--O--
>
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| Subject: | VSI & Altimeter Flucuations |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5@nc.rr.com>
While in level flight in my -6, if my plane yaws at all due to turbulence, I get
a steady, rythmic flucuation in both the ASI and altimeter. I am assuming that
the static system is getting some sort of airflow disturbance when one side
or the other is exposed to a different airflow due to the yaw, but it is hard
to say. I am using Van's rivet head static ports in the location marked on the
static kit paperwork. If, when pushing the remaining rivet through the hole
somehow has created two different size holes, would that make a difference? Has
anyone run into this and come up with any decent solutions? I'd love to know,
because my autopilot altitude hold is hooked into this system and it makes
the pitch servo work hard trying to chase those altitude deviations. Thanks in
advance for any help/ideas.
David Davenport
RV-6 N168DD 67 Hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Blown fuse-strange event. pts rule name |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <Tim@bryantechnology.com>
I think you are right about a bad connection or such, however the heat from
that may be more of the reason than over amperage. Same answer, same
conclusion, just different idea of WHY
Tim Bryan
Redmond, OR.
RV-6 N616TB Not yet flying but close
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin <rlundin46@yahoo.com>
I think you need to check the voltage at the plug,
while you have a load on it. My guess is you have a
bad connection/soldier joint somewhere in the wiring.
That causes a voltage drop, which causes excess
amperage draw.
Good luck,
Rick Lundin
RV-8 Tail done, wings on order
--- Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig
> <larywil@comcast.net>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I have two cigarette lighter type power sockets in
> my RV-4. Both are
> breaker protected at 5 amps. #1 socket powers my
> GPS, and #2 socket powers
> my ANR headset. A few weeks ago, the 2 amp fuse
> contained in the male power
> plug of my GPS blew. I changed it and a few hours
> later, it blew again. The
> breaker on my panel never blew.
>
> I switched the two devices, and the GPS has worked
> fine. But today the ANR
> power plug fuse blew.
>
> The problem is not in the devices used but seems to
> be in the power
> socket/wiring system. How can this be? Any ideas
> before I spend three
> hours tearing apart my honey?
>
> Thanks in advance. Louis
>
>
> -
> Louis I Willig
> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
> Penn Valley, PA 19072
> 610 668-4964
> RV-4, N180PF
> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Blown fuse-strange event. pts rule name |
--> RV-List message posted by: GLCole5475@aol.com
Gentelmen,
I am not sure why the fuses are blowing, but do disagree with your analysis.
If you have a bad solder joint or connection the resistance of that
connection will be higher. This will generate more heat in the connection and lower
the
voltage and therefore current being applied to the device being driven. But
it will not cause the fuse to blow. Fuses are inherently current sensitive.
Check the voltage being applied to the two devices. You may find that the
voltage is high in the one blowing the fuses. If so, your bad connection will
be in the one that is not blowing fuses.
It's a thought.
Good luck.
Gary
Working on my HRII fuselage.
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| Subject: | Sun & Fun Accident? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
I departed Sun & Fun at around 8:05 this morning and the tower closed the airport
due to an "incident" a few minutes after I took off. Anyone know the story?
Do Not Archive
Tracy Crook
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| Subject: | Re: Sun & Fun Accident? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Tracy,
An hour after the crash, they were still clearing the airplane from runway 9
Left. I believe it was the Glasair III that was featured in Sport Aviation
recently - the one with the 8 cylinder lycoming and the shark's mouth paint
job. According to witnesses, the aircraft flew a fast, unstable approach,
departed the pavement on landing, and rolled over. I don't know if it
rolled end over end or cartwheeled. When they uprighted the airplane with a
crane, I borrowed a pair of binoculars to get a good look. The cabin area
appeared intact. That's all I know.
KB
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: RV-List: Sun & Fun Accident?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
> I departed Sun & Fun at around 8:05 this morning and the tower closed the
airport due to an "incident" a few minutes after I took off. Anyone know
the story?
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> Tracy Crook
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Hal / Carol Kempthorne <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Guns rust, blueing helps, but the steel does still rust. Poorly cared for
guns show fingerprints at least.
hal
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 flap motor interference |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
yes. just enlarge the hole in the fuse it passes through.
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| Subject: | Re: Sun & Fun Accident? |
--> RV-List message posted by: PASSPAT@aol.com
Also at the Sun 'N Fun Fly-In, a small plane flipped over on the runway. The
two people inside the Glasair III had to be extricated, but neither was
seriously hurt.
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| Subject: | Sun & Fun Accident? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Tracy,
I saw a plane that looked like an "extended" Glasair coming in for landing
on ***9 RIGHT*** while there were departures there.
Seems that either the tower said side step or the pilot realized what was
happening and power was added and a sidestep made. (I actually thought it
was the beginning of a "go-around"). Upon seeing the side step in action, I
figured to myself that it was someone who knew what was going on and how to
handle it so I looked away. My friends went "Oh No!" and when I looked
around again there was a huge pile of dust.
They bround out the crane and it was there for a **LONG** time. Fire trucks,
rescue vehicles and a foan truck went to the site. I do not know the
condition of the passengers.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tracy Crook
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:49 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Sun & Fun Accident?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
> I departed Sun & Fun at around 8:05 this morning and the tower
> closed the airport due to an "incident" a few minutes after I
> took off. Anyone know the story?
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> Tracy Crook
>
>
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| Subject: | 1st friendly reminder - Twin Cities RV Fly-In |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
Fellow Listers:
We are beginning the countdown for the Twin Cities RV Fly-In to be held in
Minneapolis on May 22 and 23. Folks, we want this to be the premier RV
event in the upper Midwest this spring. So we have a lofty goal: we want
to see every RV in this area that has ever seen light under its tires to
blacken the skies of the Twin Cities on May 22 and 23. If fact, lets just
shoot for the moon and get every possible RV to Anoka County Airport that
weekend. THIS MEANS YOU!!!!
The TCRVFI will be a major part of Discover Aviation Days. This is a big
deal with a fly-in breakfast, food, warbirds, fly-bys, displays, vendors,
pig roast, hangar dance, etc, etc. We'll have an RV hospitality tent,
awards for fly-in RVs, door prizes, wife rides, mini-seminars on Saturday
(Van's Aircraft will be there represented by Bruce Reynolds) and more.
Here's the Fly-In website:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~rvflyin/index.htm - check it often for
updates
Here's Discover Aviation Day's website:
http://www.discoveraviationdays.org/
We'll be spreading the word and reminding everyone over the next 4 weeks.
Let's show the Discover Aviation Days folks just what these RVs are all
about.
Any questions? Email me off list.
Thanks
Doug Weiler
pres, MN Wing
dougweil@pressenter.cojm
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| Subject: | Re: Sun & Fun Accident? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
They closed the airport until 11:30 am.
Got the be the record for imcompetence in handling an accident!
30+ planes holding for 3 hours or more over Lake Paker.
I had promised to meet someone there at 8:30. I was NOT a happy camper!
Finn
James E. Clark wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
>
>Tracy,
>
>I saw a plane that looked like an "extended" Glasair coming in for landing
>on ***9 RIGHT*** while there were departures there.
>
>Seems that either the tower said side step or the pilot realized what was
>happening and power was added and a sidestep made. (I actually thought it
>was the beginning of a "go-around"). Upon seeing the side step in action, I
>figured to myself that it was someone who knew what was going on and how to
>handle it so I looked away. My friends went "Oh No!" and when I looked
>around again there was a huge pile of dust.
>
>They bround out the crane and it was there for a **LONG** time. Fire trucks,
>rescue vehicles and a foan truck went to the site. I do not know the
>condition of the passengers.
>
>
>James
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tracy Crook
>>Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:49 PM
>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV-List: Sun & Fun Accident?
>>
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>>
>>I departed Sun & Fun at around 8:05 this morning and the tower
>>closed the airport due to an "incident" a few minutes after I
>>took off. Anyone know the story?
>>
>>Do Not Archive
>>
>>Tracy Crook
>>
>>
>>
>>
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