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1. 07:31 AM - Leadtime on Lycomings (deruiteraircraftservices)
2. 08:02 AM - Re: Strapping down batteries (DWENSING@aol.com)
3. 08:17 AM - Re: Oh oh!!! (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Strapping down batteries (Sam Buchanan)
5. 09:24 AM - Strange stuff (Alex Peterson)
6. 10:57 AM - Re: Strange stuff (Gert)
7. 11:03 AM - lacquer paint help (Jim Duckett)
8. 11:04 AM - Re: Strapping down batteries (Gert)
9. 11:09 AM - Re: Strapping down batteries (Neilekins@aol.com)
10. 11:14 AM - Re: Strange stuff (C. Rabaut)
11. 11:29 AM - Re: lacquer paint help (Bruce Bell)
12. 02:06 PM - Re: Strange stuff (Jim Oke)
13. 04:18 PM - Louis Smith's email address??? (Greg Puckett)
14. 05:11 PM - Jones-Blair paint Has anyone used it? (Richard Scott)
15. 05:57 PM - Re: Oh oh!!! (HCRV6@aol.com)
16. 07:02 PM - Re: Louis Smith's email address??? (Lenleg@aol.com)
17. 08:06 PM - Re: Oh oh!!! (John Huft)
18. 09:27 PM - RV-4 Cowling Hinges Pins (bruno)
19. 09:59 PM - Re: PLEASE READ>>>>> (Bob U.)
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| Subject: | Leadtime on Lycomings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "deruiteraircraftservices" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
Hi all,
Anyone out there have a new lycoming on order through Van's? Our's about 4
weeks late and still no sign. It was originally due at the start of april.
marcel
RV7, almost finished, no engine
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| Subject: | Re: Strapping down batteries |
--> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/04 4:30:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
terry@tcwatson.com writes:
> I found some heavy duty 24" long plastic tie wraps for about $0.25 apiece
> at
> Home Depot that are just the right length to strap down my PC680. Of course
> you have to cut them to get them off, unless you find some of the removable
> kind. I think they are plenty strong enough, but if you are concerned, use
> two (or more). Since they are plastic, you don't have to worry about them
> shorting the terminals out.
>
I would urge you to reconsider using plastic tie wraps for battery hold
downs. Even the black ones can become brittle with time. Discovered this when I
used them to temporarily attach fluorescent shop lights to hangar ceiling. Some
of them broke in less than a year and they were not exposed to the sun.
Dale Ensing
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--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Listers,
I will spill my guts for the benefit of all of you, especially nosedragger
pilots. I too flew my plane (a Cessna 150) with the towbar attached. Let me
tell the whole story:
It was late one evening. I landed and was getting ready to put the plane
away in a large hanger shared by about 6 airplanes. I attached the towbar and
then realized that one of the planes was still out flying that needed to go in
before mine, so I laid the towbar (still attached) on the ground and went into
the hangar to shoot the sh.. oops -- bull -- with some of the guys. About
that time my stepson from out of town showed up and was really excited about
taking a ride. The plane was warm and had just been flown -- no need for a
preflight -- so a quick ride around the area was taken. Uh oh!!
Well, fortunately (in some ways), I had completely forgotten about the towbar
until after landing and noticing about a half inch curl at the tip of each
prop blade. Thank God I wasn't aware of the towbar being attached, I was able
to make a perfect landing which otherwise may have been done in a state of
panic.
My wife said she saw sparks as we started the takeoff roll, and come to think
of it I heard some strange sounds too, but thought it was just some bouncy
noises that we always get on the grass strip.
OK. Heres why it will never happen again. I NEVER, EVER leave the airplane
with the towbar attached. Needless to say it is automatic on my preflight to
check for the towbar. Nothing makes a believer out of you like having it
happen to you.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (getting really close)
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| Subject: | Re: Strapping down batteries |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
DWENSING@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 4/28/04 4:30:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> terry@tcwatson.com writes:
>
>
>
>>I found some heavy duty 24" long plastic tie wraps for about $0.25 apiece
>>at
>>Home Depot that are just the right length to strap down my PC680. Of course
>>you have to cut them to get them off, unless you find some of the removable
>>kind. I think they are plenty strong enough, but if you are concerned, use
>>two (or more). Since they are plastic, you don't have to worry about them
>>shorting the terminals out.
>>
>
>
> I would urge you to reconsider using plastic tie wraps for battery hold
> downs. Even the black ones can become brittle with time. Discovered this when
I
> used them to temporarily attach fluorescent shop lights to hangar ceiling. Some
> of them broke in less than a year and they were not exposed to the sun.
> Dale Ensing
Just as a data point, I have used large plastic cable ties to secure the
small battery on the firewall of my RV-6 for the past 2 1/2 years:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/battery.htm
I have seen no degradation of the ties in spite of dire warnings to the
contrary. When I replace the battery every two years, it gets new ties.
The battery is located where I can see the ties every time I check the
oil during preflight.
Sam Buchanan
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
I'm curious if anyone else is getting a lot of messages similar to this
one below. The "sent to" addresses listed are not familiar. Up to date
Norton indicates I'm clean, but I suspect someone is trolling the list
for email addresses to harass.
do not archive.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 461 hours
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
A virus was found in an Email message you sent.
This Email scanner intercepted it and stopped the entire message
reaching its destination.
The virus was reported to be:
PIF files not allowed per Network security policy
Please update your virus scanner or contact your IT support
personnel as soon as possible as you have a virus on your system.
blah, blah, blah
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| Subject: | Re: Strange stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Yup see 'm too. for the longest time they came as support@execpc.com,
management@execpc.com, customer-relation@execpc.com billing@execpc.com
Funny thing is, execpc as such has not existed anymore for a loooong
time asthey have been bought, several times, so right there they are
suspect. I also get them with ebay.com ebay.net etc, google.com &
google.net, AOL.com, etc......
lately they have credit card endings proclaiming your bank account or
credit card account has been locked till you read and return the
attached form,,,,,yeah right.......
all seem to have an attachent, or used to, as NAV takes care of that,
if I don't know them, it gets deleted.
Gert
Alex Peterson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else is getting a lot of messages similar to this
> one below. The "sent to" addresses listed are not familiar. Up to date
> Norton indicates I'm clean, but I suspect someone is trolling the list
> for email addresses to harass.
> do not archive.
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 461 hours
>
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
>
>
> A virus was found in an Email message you sent.
> This Email scanner intercepted it and stopped the entire message
> reaching its destination.
>
> The virus was reported to be:
>
> PIF files not allowed per Network security policy
>
>
> Please update your virus scanner or contact your IT support
> personnel as soon as possible as you have a virus on your system.
>
> blah, blah, blah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
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| Subject: | lacquer paint help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Bruce,
I'm really amazed that you found A.L. in the first place. Our shop
hasn't had a Lacquer mixing bench for nearly 15 years now and most
suppliers quit handling any of it around 10 years ago at least.
I'm not trying to flame you in any way but, with all the other finishes
that are far superior to lacquer in availibility, application, and most
especially protection and finish durability, you must have been given
the A.L.ofr free in order to even consider putting it on you aircraft.
That being said, I don't think the problem is the mixing formulas. The
problem is that most, if not all, of the mixing colors are no longer
being produced. Lead content, V.O.C.'s, and better product lines are
the main reasons that within the automotive and aircraft industry at
least, lacquer refinishing products went bye-bye a long time ago.
Nearly all refinish suppliers and most paint shops have the ability to
match your red...it just won't be in lacquer.
Sorry this wasn't much help. IMHO my advise would be to stop and strip
what you've done in lacquer, then prep and paint in another finish type.
Jim Duckett
N708JD
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Strapping down batteries |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
There is a wide variety in quality and materials for tie wraps.
Quality ones will outlast you, cheapo ones ( not neccesarily $$ cheap )
will only last a very short time.
there are tiewraps made who's sole purpose is to keep a bundle of wires
neat till you arrive home from home depot or where ever you bought that
extension cord. then there are tiewraps made to keep industrial stuff
together, and then there are tiewraps designed to be in engine
compartments in hot oily conditions. All designed for specific purposes.
you wouldn't want to pay an extra dollar just for a tiewrap to keep the
extension cord together, you'd be happy to pay many extra dollars for a
good tiewrap that holds your battery in place.
If you do not know the material they are made from you cannot draw
conclusions as to their longlevety
Gert
Sam Buchanan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
> DWENSING@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
>>
>>In a message dated 4/28/04 4:30:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>>terry@tcwatson.com writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I found some heavy duty 24" long plastic tie wraps for about $0.25 apiece
>>>at
>>>Home Depot that are just the right length to strap down my PC680. Of course
>>>you have to cut them to get them off, unless you find some of the removable
>>>kind. I think they are plenty strong enough, but if you are concerned, use
>>>two (or more). Since they are plastic, you don't have to worry about them
>>>shorting the terminals out.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I would urge you to reconsider using plastic tie wraps for battery hold
>>downs. Even the black ones can become brittle with time. Discovered this when
I
>>used them to temporarily attach fluorescent shop lights to hangar ceiling. Some
>>of them broke in less than a year and they were not exposed to the sun.
>>Dale Ensing
>
>
>
> Just as a data point, I have used large plastic cable ties to secure the
> small battery on the firewall of my RV-6 for the past 2 1/2 years:
>
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/battery.htm
>
> I have seen no degradation of the ties in spite of dire warnings to the
> contrary. When I replace the battery every two years, it gets new ties.
> The battery is located where I can see the ties every time I check the
> oil during preflight.
>
> Sam Buchanan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
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| Subject: | Re: Strapping down batteries |
--> RV-List message posted by: Neilekins@aol.com
I would try the battery tie downs you find on a boat battery. It s light and
strong...Neil
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| Subject: | Re: Strange stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Alex,
I think you're right about "someone" trolling and getting addresses. I
periodically get emails disguised as RV-list emails, or from people on the
list (usually common contributors). I just delete 'em as they come and keep
my anti-virus software VERY up to date.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Peterson <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: Strange stuff
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
<alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else is getting a lot of messages similar to this
> one below. The "sent to" addresses listed are not familiar. Up to date
> Norton indicates I'm clean, but I suspect someone is trolling the list
> for email addresses to harass.
> do not archive.
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 461 hours
>
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
>
>
> A virus was found in an Email message you sent.
> This Email scanner intercepted it and stopped the entire message
> reaching its destination.
>
> The virus was reported to be:
>
> PIF files not allowed per Network security policy
>
>
> Please update your virus scanner or contact your IT support
> personnel as soon as possible as you have a virus on your system.
>
> blah, blah, blah
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: lacquer paint help |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
Good afternoon Jim,
Thanks for the reply, you were the only one who did. I used AL because it
dries fast. I paint in the back yard on the clothesline and in the driveway
out front. Also a good mask is all you need. No I am not going to strip it
off. Too far along. Everything is painted but the wings and they are on
their fixtures ready for the primer and a dry warm day. I needed the red to
touch up the tail leading edges and the stripes on the wings. I will get
something from Finish Masters here in Lubbock that will be compatible with
the AL. When cut I have about 5 gallons of yellow to finish the painting. No
it wasn't free. For the paint from Randolph I paid about $1,600 dollars. I
have bought lacquer thinner at Finish Masters made by Du Pont 3608S. My next
one will not be AL , just all white with decals for trim. Looks like you are
in the paint business, what would you suggest to go over AL?
Bruce Bell
Lubbock, Texas
RV4 # 2888
Subject: RV-List: lacquer paint help
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
>
> Bruce,
> I'm really amazed that you found A.L. in the first place. Our shop
> hasn't had a Lacquer mixing bench for nearly 15 years now and most
> suppliers quit handling any of it around 10 years ago at least.
> I'm not trying to flame you in any way but, with all the other finishes
> that are far superior to lacquer in availibility, application, and most
> especially protection and finish durability, you must have been given
> the A.L.ofr free in order to even consider putting it on you aircraft.
> That being said, I don't think the problem is the mixing formulas. The
> problem is that most, if not all, of the mixing colors are no longer
> being produced. Lead content, V.O.C.'s, and better product lines are
> the main reasons that within the automotive and aircraft industry at
> least, lacquer refinishing products went bye-bye a long time ago.
> Nearly all refinish suppliers and most paint shops have the ability to
> match your red...it just won't be in lacquer.
>
> Sorry this wasn't much help. IMHO my advise would be to stop and strip
> what you've done in lacquer, then prep and paint in another finish type.
>
> Jim Duckett
> N708JD
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Strange stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
There are a couple of viruses out there that grab names from an infected
computer's address book and then send phoney e-mails using the stolen
addresses as return e-mail addresses. When someone gets one of these phoney
e-mails, sometimes their virus protection software sends a warning message
to the "originator" to tip them something is wrong. So if your e-mail was in
someone else's address book that got "borrowed" you could be getting e-mail
warnings as below even though you have never mailed them in the first place.
Delete and forget is about all you can do.
Do not archive.
Jim Oke
Wpg., MB
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Strange stuff
> --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Alex,
>
> I think you're right about "someone" trolling and getting addresses.
I
> periodically get emails disguised as RV-list emails, or from people on the
> list (usually common contributors). I just delete 'em as they come and
keep
> my anti-virus software VERY up to date.
>
> Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Peterson <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Strange stuff
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
> <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> >
> > I'm curious if anyone else is getting a lot of messages similar to this
> > one below. The "sent to" addresses listed are not familiar. Up to date
> > Norton indicates I'm clean, but I suspect someone is trolling the list
> > for email addresses to harass.
> > do not archive.
> > Alex Peterson
> > Maple Grove, MN
> > RV6-A N66AP 461 hours
> >
> > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
> >
> >
> > A virus was found in an Email message you sent.
> > This Email scanner intercepted it and stopped the entire message
> > reaching its destination.
> >
> > The virus was reported to be:
> >
> > PIF files not allowed per Network security policy
> >
> >
> > Please update your virus scanner or contact your IT support
> > personnel as soon as possible as you have a virus on your system.
> >
> > blah, blah, blah
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Louis Smith's email address??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Puckett" <rv8er@myawai.com>
Does anyone have Louis Smith's email address? The one on his web site
seems to be invalid.
Thanks,
Greg Puckett
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| Subject: | Jones-Blair paint Has anyone used it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
Bob Brashear recommends using Jones-Blair Acrylithane, which he claims runs
$33 / gal. See http://65.219.228.161/articles/voices_BobBrashear.htm
Has anyone used this stuff? Is it any good? Easy to apply?
Richard Scott
9 Emp
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--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 5/1/04 8:17:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Hopperdhh@aol.com
writes:
<< no need for a preflight >>
Another set of famous last words?
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, final assembly
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| Subject: | Re: Louis Smith's email address??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 5/1/2004 7:19:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rv8er@myawai.com writes:
> Does anyone have Louis Smith's email address? The one on his web site
> seems to be invalid.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Greg Puckett
>
flynfish@earthlink.net is the last one I had that worked.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
231 hrs
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
Thanks Dan
Have ya'll heard of the California Highway Patrol guy who took off with a
motorized tug still attached to the tail wheel of his C-185? Into a low
overcast, had to circle and shoot the ILS, all turned out OK. Aft CG?
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Hopperdhh@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Oh oh!!!
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Listers,
I will spill my guts for the benefit of all of you, especially nosedragger
pilots. I too flew my plane (a Cessna 150) with the towbar attached. Let
me
tell the whole story:
It was late one evening. I landed and was getting ready to put the plane
away in a large hanger shared by about 6 airplanes. I attached the towbar
and
then realized that one of the planes was still out flying that needed to go
in
before mine, so I laid the towbar (still attached) on the ground and went
into
the hangar to shoot the sh.. oops -- bull -- with some of the guys. About
that time my stepson from out of town showed up and was really excited about
taking a ride. The plane was warm and had just been flown -- no need for a
preflight -- so a quick ride around the area was taken. Uh oh!!
Well, fortunately (in some ways), I had completely forgotten about the
towbar
until after landing and noticing about a half inch curl at the tip of each
prop blade. Thank God I wasn't aware of the towbar being attached, I was
able
to make a perfect landing which otherwise may have been done in a state of
panic.
My wife said she saw sparks as we started the takeoff roll, and come to
think
of it I heard some strange sounds too, but thought it was just some bouncy
noises that we always get on the grass strip.
OK. Heres why it will never happen again. I NEVER, EVER leave the airplane
with the towbar attached. Needless to say it is automatic on my preflight
to
check for the towbar. Nothing makes a believer out of you like having it
happen to you.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (getting really close)
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| Subject: | RV-4 Cowling Hinges Pins |
--> RV-List message posted by: bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
Hello Listers
Are there any of you on the List flying an RV-4 who
retrofitted their top cowlings from Van's hinge pins to Zsus fasteners or
strait screws? How did it go? Did you get cracks later on or any problems
whatsoever??
Eventough I've removed the top cowling close to fifty
times so far I never had any problems but lately it has been a major pain in
the back to get these pins thru. I have realigned the hinges as best as I
could but I still have troubles getting the top pins thru.
Now I'm starting to look at better options.
Anyone with a web site or pictures I can look at will
be appreciated.
Thank you
Bruno
C-GDBH RV-4
rv4@videotron.ca
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| Subject: | Re: PLEASE READ>>>>> |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>
Dear John....
WASHINGTON DC is a CAPITOL. <g>
".......CAPITAL letters is to unsubscribe".
Do not archive
JOHN STARN wrote:
>BlankGO TO BOTTOM OF ANY RV E-MAIL. The only item in CAPITOL letters is to unsubscribe.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ AND FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. We can't do it
for you, YOU must read and DO IT YOURSELF. The address to unsubscribe is below:
KABONG DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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