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1. 09:39 AM - Wish List (YonderRDC@aol.com)
2. 11:54 AM - Re: RV6/A Gross Weight.... (RV6AOKC@aol.com)
3. 01:45 PM - Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Hal / Carol Kempthorne)
4. 02:55 PM - Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) (Tom Gummo)
5. 03:12 PM - Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) (Bruce Gray)
6. 03:49 PM - Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) (Paul Besing)
7. 04:40 PM - Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Bob U.)
8. 07:56 PM - Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) (JOHN STARN)
9. 08:27 PM - Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Brian Alley)
10. 09:15 PM - RV List Fish Fry (smoothweasel@juno.com)
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--> RV-List message posted by: YonderRDC@aol.com
Hi All...To introduce myself---David Ward here......
I have been spying on you all for the last couple of years while preparing to
seriously join the fray. Two years worth of planning, saving, and educating
myself. You all have been a big part of that last one. Thanks for all the
insight and education! I am currently in the permit application process to build
a new shop in which to build my RV-8....God willing (and the County permit
folks), I should have the shop completed by the 4th of July or so. A trip to
Vans is planned for June (in concert with Scappose I suspect)...to pick up an
empennage kit.
That said....I though you might lend your expertise as I draw up my wish list
for the new shop/Hanger (room for a 1700 ft. strip!). Yes...I Have reviewed
the archives. What has worked especially well for you in the shop...what do
you wish you had done....what should'nt you have done...done differently, any
hints on any aspect would be appreciated. Lighting, tools, hanger doors,
creature comforts, floor paint?....plumbing for the compressor (anybody use
PVC?)...etc. You get the idea. If you were doing what I was, what would you
do?
If you don't want to clog up the list with this stuff feel free to resond
directly to yonderrdc@aol.com. If anyone wants phone #'s let me know.
I'll be ordering aircraft tools from cleveland or avery soon and dropping a
small fortune at SEARS. I've been picking up odds and ends recently ....latest
is a Dremel setup and a gross of flame-proof underwear :).
Thanks very much for any information all. It's a pleasure to finally say
Hi...
David
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| Subject: | Re: RV6/A Gross Weight.... |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6AOKC@aol.com
Bob,
These are the figures I got from Vans several years ago from Bill Benedict,
who has since passed on. I don't think they will publish any figures beyond
what is in the books now for liability reasons, which I understand. However,
I would have to assume that some type of engineering was done to confirm these
numbers. They don't really mean much until I do my test program anyway, but
it was a place to start.
Kurt
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg Stiffners |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal / Carol Kempthorne <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 04:35 PM 5/6/2004, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" <jamespnolan@earthlink.net>
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> I wouldn't put them on, here's why.
>
snip
>I figure the only thing
>that saved my gear and motor mount, was the Whitman gear. If it had been
>stiff, I probley would have had to replace more than just the wheelpant.
I doubt it. The steel is twenty times stronger than the wood, maybe
more. The wood would have added very little to strength.
However, wood is very good at damping vibration. Some years ago a railroad
tried using ties made of concrete instead of wood in order to reduce
costs. While wood ties last years, the concrete began breaking up in a few
weeks.
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
> Some years ago a railroad
> tried using ties made of concrete instead of wood in order to reduce
> costs. While wood ties last years, the concrete began breaking up in a
few
> weeks.
Besides, concrete is to hard to get to stick to the gear legs. :-)
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
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http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
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| Subject: | Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sounds like the old joke about the newlywed who went back to her
gynecologist with the complaint that her birth control pill were the
wrong size, they kept falling out.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo
Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
> Some years ago a railroad
> tried using ties made of concrete instead of wood in order to reduce
> costs. While wood ties last years, the concrete began breaking up in
a
few
> weeks.
Besides, concrete is to hard to get to stick to the gear legs. :-)
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
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> Besides, concrete is to hard to get to stick to the gear legs. :-)
>
Not if you use the right primer, Tom! I hear Marhyde works wonders!
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Soon
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg Stiffners |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>
>Some years ago a railroad
>tried using ties made of concrete instead of wood in order to reduce
>costs. While wood ties last years, the concrete began breaking up in a few
>weeks.
>
>
>K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
>RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
>PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
>
Tsk. Tsk.
Rocla Concrete Tie, Inc sure would take issue with you.
Concrete ties have been used successfully throughout the world for more
than 50 years.
Just a few websites....
http://www.aslrra.org/who_we_serve/associate_members/details.cfm?memberid=1783
http://www.kellysearch.com/qz-product-106454.html
http://www.koppers.com/htm/PandS_Rail_KSA.html
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:PVwLKhNmP8wJ:www.lbfoster.com/cxt/cxtrailroadproducts/TiesProd2.pdf+concrete+railroad+ties&hl=en
FYI, even ships have been successfully been manufactured from concrete!
http://www.concreteships.org/history/
Bob - retired Class I railroad employee
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Ya gotta use "Concrete Cement". Yes, Virginia there is such a thing. The
last brand I used was from Elmers Glue.
Do Not Archive 8*) Kabong
---- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear leg Stiffners (Humor added)
> > Some years ago a railroad
> > tried using ties made of concrete instead of wood in order to reduce
> > costs. While wood ties last years, the concrete began breaking up in a
> few
> > weeks.
> Besides, concrete is to hard to get to stick to the gear legs. :-)
>
> Tom Gummo
> Apple Valley, CA
> Harmon Rocket-II
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg Stiffners |
--> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Several Tailwinds and other aircraft equipped with
tapered rod gear have suffered cracks in the gear
mount truss due to the oscillation of the gear. The
wood stiffeners change the natural frequency of the
spring gear in the direction the gear tends to
oscillate. I added wood to my gear and did eliminate a
moderate oscillation. The wood is bonded to both the
front and rear edges of the gear leg then carved into
an airfoil shape. The wood is then wrapped with
fiberglass, filled with epoxy/micro, sanded and
painted. It's a permanent part of the gear legs and
solved the problem completely.
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BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
304-872-7938 shop
304-562-6800 home
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | RV List Fish Fry |
--> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com
Hey Guy's The time is almost here for the fish fry fly-in that we have
been planning.
There will be a plenty of fun and food so come on out and see us!!!!
See ya Sat.
Weasel
> > This is an invitation to a fly-in to be held on Saturday, May 15,2004
at
> > 11:00 a.m. We will plan on serving the meal at 12:00 noon. We
welcome
> > all aircraft that land on grass to come try out our strip. If you
don't
> > do grass strips join us for the food and friendly conversation.
> >
> > We are located at:
> > GPS: N 33 08.511' W 088 24.485'
> > 1950 ft. grass N/S runway
> > Caution: Power pole on the S/W corner of the runway
> >
> > If driving:
> > Travel Hwy 45 to Prairie Point Rd. Turn East on Prairie Point Rd,
pass
> > Macon Airport and of about 8.5 mi. to Greenbriar Rd. Turn South onto
> > Greenbriar, look for black catfish mailbox. Turn right at the
mailbox
> > and drive between the ponds to the house. We plan to be there,
waiting
> > for you.
> >
> > Questions? Contact us at:
> > Dwight Lee (662) 726-9709 e-mail: bubbalee69@juno.com
> > Levi Lee (662) 726-5560
> >
> > Check e-mail or call before coming if there is a chance of bad
weather
> > cancellation.
> >
> > PS If you know anyone who would enjoy this please pass this
invitation
on
> > for us.
>
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