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1. 04:53 AM - Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
2. 06:22 AM - Re: GNS 430 cockpit readability (John Furey)
3. 07:01 AM - Rear Baggage Door (Bill VonDane)
4. 07:24 AM - Re: Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available (Rabaut, Chuck)
5. 08:21 AM - Re: GNS 430 cockpit readability (Laird Owens)
6. 08:21 AM - Prop Governor for sale (Tommy Walker)
7. 08:27 AM - Re: Prop Governor for sale (RGray67968@aol.com)
8. 08:28 AM - RV's non related (bertrv6@highstream.net)
9. 08:33 AM - FOR SALE: O-320-E3D (Bill VonDane)
10. 08:35 AM - Second Annual Rebel's Bluff FlyIn (Morocketman@aol.com)
11. 08:43 AM - Slider Canopy RIvet Holes (tacaruth@ralcorp.com)
12. 08:50 AM - Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil (Hal / Carol Kempthorne)
13. 09:00 AM - ExteriorPaintPrepWorries (DAVID REEL)
14. 09:27 AM - Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil Coolers (Dan Checkoway)
15. 09:44 AM - Re: Second Annual Rebel's Bluff FlyIn (Paul Besing)
16. 09:49 AM - Re: GNS 430 cockpit readability (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
17. 10:20 AM - Fw: Help me with the teething problems? (Morocketman@aol.com)
18. 10:28 AM - Paint booth ventilation (Scott.Fink@microchip.com)
19. 10:56 AM - Re: RV's non related (Dj Merrill)
20. 11:20 AM - Re: Fw: Help me with the teething problems? (Dan Checkoway)
21. 11:30 AM - Re: GNS 430 cockpit readability (Laird Owens)
22. 11:40 AM - WTB: RV-3 (Randy Lervold)
23. 11:53 AM - CNX80 Documentation (Stucklen, Frederic IFC)
24. 12:04 PM - Re: RV's non related (Tim Coldenhoff)
25. 12:04 PM - Re: Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available (David Carter)
26. 12:47 PM - All Glass Certification (Steve&Anita Nyman)
27. 12:47 PM - 430 (Wheeler North)
28. 12:50 PM - Aircraft Spruce East Grand Opening at KFFC (Peachtree City, Georgia) (Vern Darley,II)
29. 12:53 PM - oil coolers (Wheeler North)
30. 12:56 PM - Re: Prop Governor for sale (Tommy Walker)
31. 01:17 PM - Re: Making FM Antenna (Charlie)
32. 02:18 PM - Re: All Glass Certification (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
33. 02:19 PM - Re: RV's non related (Richard Tasker)
34. 03:20 PM - RV Builder in Charlotte (mbick)
35. 03:30 PM - Re: All Glass Certification (Terry Watson)
36. 03:56 PM - Re: All Glass Certification (Paul Besing)
37. 04:05 PM - Re: Second Annual Rebel's Bluff FlyIn (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
38. 04:20 PM - Re: All Glass Certification (Mike Robertson)
39. 04:31 PM - Wing Root Fairing (Rick Galati)
40. 05:14 PM - Re:All Glass Certification (Steve&Anita Nyman)
41. 05:17 PM - Re: All Glass Certification (Steve&Anita Nyman)
42. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Making FM Antenna (Bob U.)
43. 05:45 PM - Re: Slider Canopy RIvet Holes (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
44. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Making FM Antenna (Dave Bristol)
45. 07:00 PM - Re: Re:All Glass Certification (Paul Besing)
46. 07:34 PM - Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil Coolers (Pat Hatch)
47. 08:05 PM - gear leg fairings & centering ball (Dave Ford)
48. 08:30 PM - Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil Coolers (Dan Checkoway)
49. 09:47 PM - Re: gear leg fairings & centering ball (Laird Owens)
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| Subject: | Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available |
3.6 ALT_MED Misspelled medication name
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Though you would find interesting that the FAA has introduced FREE
digital charting on-line with the availability of instrument approaches,
procedures, airport diagrams, and other interesting stuff. Now I know
you can get these in other places. But here is the catch. These are not
scanned crappy images. These are digital, legal, up to date, printable,
pdf's, high quality plates and airport diagrams.
Images are 250kb ish in size.
It appears that they will also be doing other charting items in the
future so keep your eyes peeled.
Enjoy,
http://avn.faa.gov/index.asp?xmlnaco/onlineproducts
Michael Stewart
Always looking for cool web stuff.
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| Subject: | Re: GNS 430 cockpit readability |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
I've had the 430 in my 6A for two years and love it. No problem with
readability in any condition. Like any box of this magnitude it takes some
dedication to learning how it functions but with most Garmin stuff it is
straight forward and logical. For what it's worth, I work for a flight
training firm that sees all of the many boxes out there and it is their firm
belief that the 430/530 is the best package available and that the CNX80 is
an absolute nightmare to operate. This is coming from the "techie guys" who
love new boxes. As to whether an IFR box is worth it? That's a personal
call. It is true that most of your flying will be VFR and you pay a very big
premium to make your plane IFR.
John Furey
2nd RV6A IFR Equipped
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| Subject: | Rear Baggage Door |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Has anyone put a baggage door on the side of the fuse for accessing the rear
baggage compartment in an -8?
-Bill VonDane
EAA Tech Counselor
RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs
www.vondane.com
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rabaut, Chuck" <Chuck.Rabaut@fcle.org>
Mike,
Thanks for the heads up... now that's something worthy of blowing my tax
$$$ on.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Subject: RV-List: Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Though you would find interesting that the FAA has introduced FREE
digital charting on-line with the availability of instrument approaches,
procedures, airport diagrams, and other interesting stuff. Now I know
you can get these in other places. But here is the catch. These are not
scanned crappy images. These are digital, legal, up to date, printable,
pdf's, high quality plates and airport diagrams.
Images are 250kb ish in size.
It appears that they will also be doing other charting items in the
future so keep your eyes peeled.
Enjoy,
http://avn.faa.gov/index.asp?xmlnaco/onlineproducts
Michael Stewart
Always looking for cool web stuff.
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| Subject: | Re: GNS 430 cockpit readability |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
David,
I really got to disagree with you on this one.
I got my IFR ticket last year in a 172....yuck. In the mean time, I'd
been flying my RV-6 with a Gamrin 250XL (VFR GPS/comm).
After I got my ticket, naturally, I had to upgrade the RV. I chose the
430 for a couple of reasons, that I won't go into.
I'll admit it took a little time in the manual, but now I'm very
comfortable in the system using the 430, and we get a LOT of radar
vectors down here in SoCal.
If your only using it for a radio, it's time to hit the book, and I'd
also get the training video ($30) from Garmin. That really helped me
get into what the programmers were thinking.
Regards,
Laird
On May 19, 2004, at 9:43 PM, David Burton wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
>
> I think the readability of the 430 isn't an issue, but the usability
> might
> be. If you are going to use it for IFR you might want to look at some
> of
> the alternatives... I fly with my Garmin 195 and find that I don't
> use the
> 430 for much of anything but a radio... YMMV. The 430 is really
> chunky to
> change or input ATC course changes on the fly. I think AOPA said in
> last
> month's issue that over 20 million hours of general aviation was flown
> VFR
> in the last year and only a fraction of that was flown IFR. For most
> use
> the 430 may be fine. If you do much IFR you might consider something
> else.
> The 530 has some features like tcas that are interesting...
> I won't fly without my hand held, and for me, it's enough. The 430 is
> nice,
> but is it worth the money? Several of my friends have thought so, and
> I
> have one. If I was to do it over I don't think it's what I'd go
> with, and
> I think there might be a 530 in my future.
>
>
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> _-
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> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Prop Governor for sale |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:19:33 -0500
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twsurveyor@msn.com>
I have a "yellow tagged" Woodward governor, drive adapter and governor line for
sale.
I will sale it a piece at a time or all together.
I was originally going with a CSP but have opted to go with a FPP on my 0-360.
Contact me off list: twsurveyor@msn.com
Tommy Walker
6A, FWF
Ridgetop, TN
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
How Much for the whole mess?
Rick Gray in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
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| Subject: | RV's non related |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Hi:
Need some help, on how I can get Windows 98 program. I cannot find any place
here in Orlando, that sell 98 Windows.
This is the one I have on my p.C. and I have lost, my only copy...I even
caontacted Microsoft, and they told me they do not sell this or does not know
where can be purchased...That does not sound logic to me....
So any suggestions, or I am forced to get the 2000, edition, which I
heard, might give me a lot of trouble why?
Any comments, thanks
Bert
rv6a
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| Subject: | FOR SALE: O-320-E3D |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
I am posting this for a friend of mine... Please contact him directly...
Lycoming O-320-E3D
* NO HISTORY
Comes with flywheel, starter, engine driven fuel pump, slick mags, oil
filter...
* no carb...
crankshaft and cam look good
* needs overhaul...
$3500 + you pay freight
719-660-8650
craftsman@freeflightcomposites.com
same info + photo here:
http://www.vondane.com/forsale/index.htm#e3d
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| Subject: | Second Annual Rebel's Bluff FlyIn |
--> RV-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
Hi Everybody, Just wanted to invite you to the Second Annual Rebel's Bluff
FlyIn. Rebel's Bluff (named after a Civil War event) is located at N37 06.1,
and W93 52.2, about 2 miles NNE of Mt Vernon Municipal Airport (2MO), Mt Vernon,
MISSOURI. Last year we had 27 RV's and one Harmon Rocket II. As well as 21
other airplanes. Thank you all for coming. Some of this years visitors have
promised some very interesting airplanes as well. We will have lunch provided
by the local Boy Scout Troop, and dinner will be a steak or chicken Bar-B-Que
with all the trimmings for about $8. Please RSVP for dinner. Stay overnight
on-the-field-camping, or the local Super 8 has offered $50 rooms for double
occupancy. Avgas 100LL will be available for cost or about $2.25. Let me
know if you need auto gas. This is just a FlyIn for fun and camaraderie, and I
do it for your pleasure. There are no vendors, or sales pitches. I made the
airstrip to enjoy and share with all of you. Let's make this the largest
RV/Rocket FlyIn in the Midwest. Thank you, Les Featherston 417-466-4663
PS
My Harmon Rocket II, Airgasm, will be making her introduction with new paint
scheme.
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| Subject: | Slider Canopy RIvet Holes |
05/20/2004 10:41:04 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: tacaruth@ralcorp.com
Hi All,
I have trimmed the sliding 7A canopy and am ready to drill the holes to the
front and rear canopy tubes. It says on the plans to use a 2" spacing. My
question is how close to the lower edge do you continue with the holes? My
canopy is trimmed about 1/4" above the square horizontal tubes. When I
look at the side skirts and braces, etc, I see alot of holes for holding
these on also. I worry about having the holes too close together in the
lower most hole above the square tube. The lowest hole would be about 1"
above the lower edge of the plexiglass. How have others that have gone
before handled this? Should I just temporarily leave out the lower hole
until the side skirts are installed and then go back and add a last rive,
if needed? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanc,
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil |
Coolers
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal / Carol Kempthorne <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
Coolers
At 07:47 PM 5/19/2004, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
>Oil temp...
Good info, Dan, but I have a couple of questions.
1. Why do you want oil to run cold? Hot, thinner oil creates less
friction and helps contaminents boil off.
2. How did you verify the accuracy of your oil temp gauge?
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | ExteriorPaintPrepWorries |
3.8 TRACKER_ID BODY: Incorporates a tracking ID number
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
For a long time I've been worried about using phosphoric acid based cleaners such
as alumiprep and chromic acid conversion coatings such as alodine to prepare
the exterior of my RV8A for paint. The fear was that some would leak inside
and damage what was primed.
Today I prepared a small bracket which I made from scrap that I primed on one side
with Deft 44GN11. The primer was unaffected. I suspect other water thinned
epoxy primers might be equally robust. Now I only have to worry about the
quick build primed parts.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil Coolers |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> 1. Why do you want oil to run cold? Hot, thinner oil creates less
> friction and helps contaminents boil off.
I'm just following the experts' recommendation, that the ideal oil temp is
about 185-195. I don't want to find out if there are long term effects if
the oil temp is consistently 10-20 degrees hotter than that. 8-)
> 2. How did you verify the accuracy of your oil temp gauge?
It came pre-calibrated from Advanced Control Systems. You might think I'm
nuts, but I have a lot of faith in them and their process.
)_( Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Second Annual Rebel's Bluff FlyIn |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
When is it?
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <Morocketman@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Second Annual Rebel's Bluff FlyIn
> --> RV-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
>
> Hi Everybody, Just wanted to invite you to the Second Annual Rebel's Bluff
> FlyIn. Rebel's Bluff (named after a Civil War event) is located at N37
06.1,
> and W93 52.2, about 2 miles NNE of Mt Vernon Municipal Airport (2MO), Mt
Vernon,
> MISSOURI. Last year we had 27 RV's and one Harmon Rocket II. As well as
21
> other airplanes. Thank you all for coming. Some of this years visitors
have
> promised some very interesting airplanes as well. We will have lunch
provided
> by the local Boy Scout Troop, and dinner will be a steak or chicken
Bar-B-Que
> with all the trimmings for about $8. Please RSVP for dinner. Stay
overnight
> on-the-field-camping, or the local Super 8 has offered $50 rooms for
double
> occupancy. Avgas 100LL will be available for cost or about $2.25. Let me
> know if you need auto gas. This is just a FlyIn for fun and camaraderie,
and I
> do it for your pleasure. There are no vendors, or sales pitches. I made
the
> airstrip to enjoy and share with all of you. Let's make this the largest
> RV/Rocket FlyIn in the Midwest. Thank you, Les Featherston 417-466-4663
PS
> My Harmon Rocket II, Airgasm, will be making her introduction with new
paint
> scheme.
>
>
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| Subject: | GNS 430 cockpit readability |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Ditto Laird's comments.
I would also add that you do need to fly often to stay on top of the
functionality. Frequent use will reap some underlying benefits from this
very powerful box.
I have not had any sunlight problems with this unit.
My hanger mate flew a trip with me last week and was stunned at how I
could maneuver the radio without looking at it. It is quite usable and
friendly, albeit expensive.
I have already ordered my 430 for my Super 8.
Being under a Class B also makes this very useful.
I do not do a lot of IFR, but when I do, this is an invaluable tool.
I do not think the real estate of the 530 makes it worth the price. MHO
Mike Stewart
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laird Owens
Subject: Re: RV-List: GNS 430 cockpit readability
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
David,
I really got to disagree with you on this one.
I got my IFR ticket last year in a 172....yuck. In the mean time, I'd
been flying my RV-6 with a Gamrin 250XL (VFR GPS/comm).
After I got my ticket, naturally, I had to upgrade the RV. I chose the
430 for a couple of reasons, that I won't go into.
I'll admit it took a little time in the manual, but now I'm very
comfortable in the system using the 430, and we get a LOT of radar
vectors down here in SoCal.
If your only using it for a radio, it's time to hit the book, and I'd
also get the training video ($30) from Garmin. That really helped me
get into what the programmers were thinking.
Regards,
Laird
On May 19, 2004, at 9:43 PM, David Burton wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
>
> I think the readability of the 430 isn't an issue, but the usability
> might
> be. If you are going to use it for IFR you might want to look at some
> of
> the alternatives... I fly with my Garmin 195 and find that I don't
> use the
> 430 for much of anything but a radio... YMMV. The 430 is really
> chunky to
> change or input ATC course changes on the fly. I think AOPA said in
> last
> month's issue that over 20 million hours of general aviation was flown
> VFR
> in the last year and only a fraction of that was flown IFR. For most
> use
> the 430 may be fine. If you do much IFR you might consider something
> else.
> The 530 has some features like tcas that are interesting...
> I won't fly without my hand held, and for me, it's enough. The 430 is
> nice,
> but is it worth the money? Several of my friends have thought so, and
> I
> have one. If I was to do it over I don't think it's what I'd go
> with, and
> I think there might be a 530 in my future.
>
>
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>
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> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: Help me with the teething problems? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Help me with the teething problems?
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From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Subject: Help me with the teething problems?
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DO NOT ARCHIVE! I need your help on a couple of items to finish the
Rocket. (1) Has anyone installed a trim tab (electric or otherwise) on the rudder
after painting? I need a significant amount of right rudder trim. And on that
subject, has anyone had any luck trimming the "YAW" with landing gear leg
fairings? I have heard about it, but no reports of success. (2) There was some
conversation on the "list" about two years ago regarding rear seat footwells.
Mine are too narrow, and I am looking for alternative's to the standard
aluminum folded on a brake. Did someone say plastic? (3) Does anyone have a
suggestion for backseat "seat cushions"? I have a polyethylene bucket seat in
the
front, and am very, VERY pleased with it, but I need a good backseat solution
with adjustable height provisions. (4) And lastly, does anybody know where I
can get a model of a "radial" engine about 3/4 to 1 1/4 inches in diameter to
use as my glove box pull knob? Thank you all for the help! Les Featherston
N206KT's, Airgasm is flying in her new paint scheme.
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DO NOT ARCHIVE! I need your help on a couple of items to finish the Rocket.(1)
Has anyone installed a trim tab (electric or otherwise) on the rudder after painting?
I need a significant amount of right rudder trim. And on that subject,
has anyone had any luck trimming the "YAW" with landing gear leg fairings? I
have heard about it, but no reports of success. (2) There was some conversation
on the "list"about two years ago regarding rear seat footwells. Mine are=20too
narrow, and I am looking for alternative's to the standard aluminum folded
on a brake. Did someone say plastic? (3) Does anyone have a suggestion for backseat
"seat cushions"? I have a polyethylene bucket seat in the front, and am
very, VERY pleased with it, but I need a good backseat solution with adjustable
height provisions. (4) And lastly, does anybody know where I can get a model
of a "radial" engine about 3/4 to 1 1/4=20inches in diameter to use as my glove
box pull knob? Thank you all for the help! Les Featherston N206KT's, Airgasm
is flying in her new paint scheme.
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| Subject: | Paint booth ventilation |
05/20/2004 10:25:33 AM,
Serialize complete at 05/20/2004 10:25:33 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott.Fink@Microchip.com
It has been a while since I've seen this topic on the list, and I didn't
find anybody who mentioned using boat bilge pumps as exhaust fans. Bilge
pumps have sealed motors (or brushless motors) so they can operate in an
explosive environment. Something like this:
http://www.boatersland.com/rul240.html
Does anybody know if they all can be operated in an explosive environment
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: RV's non related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
bertrv6@highstream.net wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
> Need some help, on how I can get Windows 98 program. I cannot find any place
> here in Orlando, that sell 98 Windows.
I bet you could find a copy on Ebay.
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Help me with the teething problems? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Just use a balsa trim wedge on the left side of the rudder... Photos at the
bottom of this page: http://www.rvproject.com/20040427.html
You can buy the balsa trailing edge stock from most hobby shops. It doesn't
take much of a wedge at all to get the desired effect.
Before doing that, I would double-check your fairing alignment -- definitely
get the weight off the gear when doing so or else the alignment can't be
nailed.
Hope this helps,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <Morocketman@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Fwd: Help me with the teething problems?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
>
>
> From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:42:54 EDT
> Subject: Fwd: Help me with the teething problems?
> To: Morocketman@aol.com
>
>
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>
> From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:42:25 EDT
> Subject: Help me with the teething problems?
> To: rocke-list-digest@matronics.com
>
>
> -------------------------------1085071345
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> DO NOT ARCHIVE! I need your help on a couple of items to finish the
> Rocket. (1) Has anyone installed a trim tab (electric or otherwise) on
the rudder
> after painting? I need a significant amount of right rudder trim. And on
that
> subject, has anyone had any luck trimming the "YAW" with landing gear leg
> fairings? I have heard about it, but no reports of success. (2) There
was some
> conversation on the "list" about two years ago regarding rear seat
footwells.
> Mine are too narrow, and I am looking for alternative's to the standard
> aluminum folded on a brake. Did someone say plastic? (3) Does anyone
have a
> suggestion for backseat "seat cushions"? I have a polyethylene bucket
seat in the
> front, and am very, VERY pleased with it, but I need a good backseat
solution
> with adjustable height provisions. (4) And lastly, does anybody know
where I
> can get a model of a "radial" engine about 3/4 to 1 1/4 inches in diameter
to
> use as my glove box pull knob? Thank you all for the help! Les
Featherston
> N206KT's, Airgasm is flying in her new paint scheme.
>
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> DO NOT ARCHIVE! I need your help on a couple of items to finish the
Rocket.(1) Has anyone installed a trim tab (electric or otherwise) on the
rudder after painting? I need a significant amount of right rudder trim. And
on that subject, has anyone had any luck trimming the "YAW" with landing
gear leg fairings? I have heard about it, but no reports of success. (2)
There was some conversation on the "list"about two years ago regarding rear
seat footwells. Mine are=20too narrow, and I am looking for alternative's to
the standard aluminum folded on a brake. Did someone say plastic? (3) Does
anyone have a suggestion for backseat "seat cushions"? I have a polyethylene
bucket seat in the front, and am very, VERY pleased with it, but I need a
good backseat solution with adjustable height provisions. (4) And lastly,
does anybody know where I can get a model of a "radial" engine about 3/4 to
1 1/4=20inches in diameter to use as my glove box pull knob? Thank you all
for the help! Les F!
> eatherston N206KT's, Airgasm is flying in her new paint scheme.
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| Subject: | Re: GNS 430 cockpit readability |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
The only thing I'd add to Mike's comments (and I like the one about
flying often to keep up on the box) is about the 530 screen size.
While we were flying back from the Bahamas a couple weeks back, one of
the RV's had a 530 and the Nexrad radar. TOO COOL. He was giving us
updates on what he saw while enroute. Kinda like having your own
personal weather briefer in the flight.
So if your going to be downloading inflight pictures (way out of my
league), the 530 screen or an MX-20 is the thing to have. I'm cheap
enough that I'll just call flight service....
Other than that, I'm really happy with my 430.
Laird
On May 20, 2004, at 9:46 AM, Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Ditto Laird's comments.
> I would also add that you do need to fly often to stay on top of the
> functionality. Frequent use will reap some underlying benefits from
> this
> very powerful box.
> I have not had any sunlight problems with this unit.
> My hanger mate flew a trip with me last week and was stunned at how I
> could maneuver the radio without looking at it. It is quite usable and
> friendly, albeit expensive.
>
> I have already ordered my 430 for my Super 8.
>
> Being under a Class B also makes this very useful.
> I do not do a lot of IFR, but when I do, this is an invaluable tool.
> I do not think the real estate of the 530 makes it worth the price. MHO
>
> Mike Stewart
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laird Owens
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: GNS 430 cockpit readability
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
>
> David,
>
> I really got to disagree with you on this one.
>
> I got my IFR ticket last year in a 172....yuck. In the mean time, I'd
> been flying my RV-6 with a Gamrin 250XL (VFR GPS/comm).
>
> After I got my ticket, naturally, I had to upgrade the RV. I chose the
>
> 430 for a couple of reasons, that I won't go into.
>
> I'll admit it took a little time in the manual, but now I'm very
> comfortable in the system using the 430, and we get a LOT of radar
> vectors down here in SoCal.
>
> If your only using it for a radio, it's time to hit the book, and I'd
> also get the training video ($30) from Garmin. That really helped me
> get into what the programmers were thinking.
>
> Regards,
>
> Laird
>
> On May 19, 2004, at 9:43 PM, David Burton wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
>>
>> I think the readability of the 430 isn't an issue, but the usability
>> might
>> be. If you are going to use it for IFR you might want to look at some
>
>> of
>> the alternatives... I fly with my Garmin 195 and find that I don't
>> use the
>> 430 for much of anything but a radio... YMMV. The 430 is really
>> chunky to
>> change or input ATC course changes on the fly. I think AOPA said in
>> last
>> month's issue that over 20 million hours of general aviation was flown
>
>> VFR
>> in the last year and only a fraction of that was flown IFR. For most
>
>> use
>> the 430 may be fine. If you do much IFR you might consider something
>
>> else.
>> The 530 has some features like tcas that are interesting...
>> I won't fly without my hand held, and for me, it's enough. The 430 is
>
>> nice,
>> but is it worth the money? Several of my friends have thought so, and
>
>> I
>> have one. If I was to do it over I don't think it's what I'd go
>> with, and
>> I think there might be a 530 in my future.
>>
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<rv-list@matronics.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
I am forwarding this message to the lists at the request of the person
below...
> I am interested in purchasing a flying RV-3 with the latest wing mods and
> the fuel tanks in the wings. I once owned RV-3A s/n 001. I'm definitely
NOT
> looking for a gold plated showplane, and I am NOT going to make someone's
> financial retirement dreams come true on one deal. However, I have cash in
> hand and am ready to buy within a few days. If you know someone with an
> updated RV-3 who needs money for their RV-10 project, I might be the right
> guy.
>
> Bill Berle
> Los Angeles, CA
> 818-990-2748
> victorbravo@sbcglobal.net
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| Subject: | CNX80 Documentation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
Anybody out there have an electronic copy of the CNX80 installation manual?
If so, could you send me a copy?
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
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| Subject: | Re: RV's non related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Coldenhoff <rv9a_000@deru.com>
bertrv6@highstream.net wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
> Need some help, on how I can get Windows 98 program. I cannot find any place
> here in Orlando, that sell 98 Windows.
...
> So any suggestions, or I am forced to get the 2000, edition, which I
> heard, might give me a lot of trouble why?
I was actually quite surprised to find that
Amazon.com claims to have Windows-98 in stock.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00002JV62/qid=1085077583/br=1-6/ref=br_lf_sw_6//103-5830733-2365467?v=glance&s=software&n=538514
If that link gets chopped up, do this:
Go to www.amazon.com and click on the "Software" section.
Under the "Business and Office" area, click "Microsoft".
Next, click on "Operating Systems".
Scroll down the list and you should find "Windows 98 Second
Edition".
You might have trouble with 2000 for a number of reasons.
First, depending on how old your hardware is, you may or may
not find drivers for certain items. Second, some software
that was written for those older platforms are not compatible
with the newer Windows NT style memory and tasking models.
Impossible to tell here, but if the software says that it will
run on Windows NT4, then it *might* be OK.
Good luck.
--
Tim Coldenhoff
#90338 - Finishing!
http://rv9a.deru.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
I went there - you have to drill down through the links on left side: Click
"Aeronautical Charting" then "On-line Products"(this is a good one to "book
mark") then either "digital- TPP" or "Airport Diagrams" then select the
"effective dates" you want - for inst apch procedures this is at
http://avn.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp
After you click the effective date, you get the map of US and click state,
then enter aprt identifier.
If you navigate a different route, you'll see stuff about subscription
prices - ignore that and keep going until you get to the page where you
enter your airport identifier and print the thing you want -for free.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
<name>
Subject: RV-List: Terminal procedures and airport diagrams now available
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Though you would find interesting that the FAA has introduced FREE
> digital charting on-line with the availability of instrument approaches,
> procedures, airport diagrams, and other interesting stuff. Now I know
> you can get these in other places. But here is the catch. These are not
> scanned crappy images. These are digital, legal, up to date, printable,
> pdf's, high quality plates and airport diagrams.
>
> Images are 250kb ish in size.
>
> It appears that they will also be doing other charting items in the
> future so keep your eyes peeled.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> http://avn.faa.gov/index.asp?xmlnaco/onlineproducts
>
> Michael Stewart
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| Subject: | All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Has anyone been able to get an all electric, all glass instrument panel certified
for IFR or VFR? I really want to avoid putting any round dials on my panel
if possible.
Also, has anyone used an inspector in the Memphis, TN area other than the one at
the local FSDO?
Thanks,
Steve
7QB
MEM
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
the readability and useability of the 430 is just fine in all situations at
all sunlight angles in most parts of the country... I haven't been to every
part with it yet...
I would suggest you download the 430/530 demonstrator and practice with it
if it seems to be cluncky to work. I find it no harder than using any of the
other garmin handhelds, and its a lot easier than using the anywhere map.
That one is great for viewing but a pain to enter stuff into,,, its too
small to hit on bumpy days.
W
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| Subject: | Aircraft Spruce East Grand Opening at KFFC (Peachtree City, Georgia) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vern Darley,II" <vern@mindspring.com>
Our 'next door neighbor' at the Falcon RV Squadron here in Peachtree City, Georgia, will be having a giant event with everything on sale this Saturday May 22,2004.They say they will have some factory reps and special pricing on some items. For details see: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/east.html
We hope to have one of the Squadron RVs on display. Our hanger (D-30) will be opened
for general hospitality if you're heading our way.Park on our ramp if you
care too. We'll try to have softdrinks,a bathroom,and shade for RV'ers.
Vern Darley
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Thanks Dan,
this has been my experience as well. the S/Ws work, the rest ????
My latest pending change is to move mine onto the interior plenum rear
baffle rather than using the FW mount and 3" hose as I still get into the
230s on a Sedona Day climb out to altitude. Even in slow flight with low
power it will eventually get hot using the 3" hose.
I have long wondered if the extra airflow to the cooler will cause higher
CHTs but I am now getting convinced that the plenum will just take in more
air.
W
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor for sale |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:54:36 -0500
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twsurveyor@msn.com>
$850 and I'll pay the shipping!
Tommy
----- Original Message -----
From: RGray67968@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop Governor for sale
--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
How Much for the whole mess?
Rick Gray in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
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Aeroelectric List <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Re: Making FM Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie <charleyb@earthlink.net>
The neatest and easiest FM antenna I have seen was on Razzmatazz, an
award winning RV-6A out of Tampa, FL. The builder used a rubber ducky
antenna mounted low on the forward right side of the firewall and
extending horizontally into the engine compartment. As I remember, he
had a panel mounted AM/FM/CD radio. The pilot reported he got great AM
and FM reception.
Charlie
San Antonio
Time: 11:31:48 AM PST US
From: SportAV8R@aol.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Making FM Antenna
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:06:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N27160
writes:
> Can anybody send me to a site that might have material on
> making a D.I.Y.
> flexible wire antenna for a auto type FM radio?
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| Subject: | All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
What kind of primer did you use on the back of the panel?:)
OK who is gonna take the second swing?
Mike
Do not archive this.
Its gonna be ugly.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve&Anita
Nyman
Subject: RV-List: All Glass Certification
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Has anyone been able to get an all electric, all glass instrument panel
certified for IFR or VFR? I really want to avoid putting any round
dials on my panel if possible.
Also, has anyone used an inspector in the Memphis, TN area other than
the one at the local FSDO?
Thanks,
Steve
7QB
MEM
==
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==
==
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| Subject: | Re: RV's non related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
Try a search on www.pricegrabber.com or www.pricewatch.com
They both list vendors that still sell Windows98 SE (the only version of
98 that you should buy).
If you just lost the CD, then an OEM version (cheaper) is all you need.
Dick Tasker
Do not archive
bertrv6@highstream.net wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
>
>
>Hi:
>
> Need some help, on how I can get Windows 98 program. I cannot find any place
>here in Orlando, that sell 98 Windows.
>
> This is the one I have on my p.C. and I have lost, my only copy...I even
>caontacted Microsoft, and they told me they do not sell this or does not know
>where can be purchased...That does not sound logic to me....
>
> So any suggestions, or I am forced to get the 2000, edition, which I
>heard, might give me a lot of trouble why?
>
>
> Any comments, thanks
>
> Bert
>
> rv6a
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV Builder in Charlotte |
--> RV-List message posted by: "mbick" <mbick@carolina.rr.com>
I am looking for an RV4 builder in the Charlotte, NC area to take a look at
the work so far. I bought a kit that has been started and I am in the
process of finishing but would like to have an "Expert" take a look.
Thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Steve,
What Mike is alluding to is that this, like primer, has been hashed and
rehashed many, many times over the years. Check the archives and you should
find much discussion and enlightenment.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Subject: RE: RV-List: All Glass Certification
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
What kind of primer did you use on the back of the panel?:)
OK who is gonna take the second swing?
Mike
Do not archive this.
Its gonna be ugly.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve&Anita
Nyman
Subject: RV-List: All Glass Certification
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Has anyone been able to get an all electric, all glass instrument panel
certified for IFR or VFR? I really want to avoid putting any round
dials on my panel if possible.
Also, has anyone used an inspector in the Memphis, TN area other than
the one at the local FSDO?
Thanks,
Steve
7QB
MEM
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| Subject: | Re: All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
First of all, you don't have to "certify" anything. Second, just about
anything you can put in an experimental, short of a nuclear warhead will be
approved. To answer your question, yes, you could put an all glass cockpit
in an experimental and get your airworthiness certficate, with either IFR or
VFR operation. I can't think of anything off hand that requires any "round
dial" type guages. Now, why you would not want a backup "round dial" guage
for altimeter/airpspeed/turn indicator is another discussion.
Be sure you meet the minimum equipment requirements per the FAR's for VFR or
IFR flight, depending on what your goal is.
You can get a list of local DAR's from the FSDO. I would recommend getting
with a local EAA chapter and seeing who other RV builders have used.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Someday
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV-List: All Glass Certification
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
>
> Has anyone been able to get an all electric, all glass instrument panel
certified for IFR or VFR? I really want to avoid putting any round dials on
my panel if possible.
>
> Also, has anyone used an inspector in the Memphis, TN area other than the
one at the local FSDO?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 7QB
> MEM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Second Annual Rebel's Bluff FlyIn |
--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
WHEN IS IT?
Doug Preston
BHM
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| Subject: | All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Steve, You do not get a panel certified for IFR. It is the responsibility
of the pilot to determine if he/she has the instruments and radios to comply
with the requirements of FAR 91.205(e). The Operating Limitations that will
be issued will either say that the aircraft is restricted to Day VFR only or
that it is restricted to Day VFR unless appropriately equipped for night
and/or IFR operations. If your inspector or DAR says otherwise then ask him
to look in Order 8130.2E for the proper wording.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: All Glass Certification
>Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:45:07 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
>
>Has anyone been able to get an all electric, all glass instrument panel
>certified for IFR or VFR? I really want to avoid putting any round dials
>on my panel if possible.
>
>Also, has anyone used an inspector in the Memphis, TN area other than the
>one at the local FSDO?
>
>Thanks,
>Steve
>7QB
>MEM
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing Root Fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Listers,
I cannot easily visualize what the designer had in mind with the shape of the RV-6
series wing root fairings. The center bottom of drawing 46 depicts a 1/4 scale
illustration of the 69" long fairing. One side is sheared straight and the
other has an undulating curve. By casually laying the uncut fairing against
the structure and clamping its aft edge even with the aft edge of the upper wing
skin, it seems to me that so much material will ultimately by trimmed off as
waste that that either side can be positioned facing the fuselage. Right or
wrong?
Is 2-1/2" the ideal fastener spacing distance (as per the
tie in of the center belly/wing skin) or is better spacing suggested?
Also, while I'm picking brains here......what is the optimum fairing-to-fuselage
gap that assures a good tight fit of the rubber seal?
Any "gotcha's" I should be on the alert for? Thanks for any input.
Rick Galati RV-6A "finishing"
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re:All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Yes, I understood to what Mike was alluding. My intent was not to discuss the
pros and cons of glass cockpits or what the FAR's say is required. Read my message
again. I have perused the archives ad nauseum. I simply wanted to know
if anyone has successfully obtained experimental certification to fly their all
electric, all glass experimental airplane either IFR or VFR. I asked this
question because the individual at Aerotronics who is designing and will be building
my panel has run into problems getting all glass cockpits approved at some
locations.
Yes, Paul, you don't have to "certify" anything, but you do have to get someone
to sign off on an airworthiness certificate in order to make that first flight.
In my mind that means someone has to "certify" the airplane, it's a matter
of semantics. I tried to talk to the FSDO today, but our local inspector was
out. I will call again tomorrow morning and be sure to ask local DAR's, I forgot
to do that today.
Nomex gloves, flight suit, and cotton underwear still on.
Steve
7QB
MEM
do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
First of all, you don't have to "certify" anything. Second, just about
anything you can put in an experimental, short of a nuclear warhead will be
approved. To answer your question, yes, you could put an all glass cockpit
in an experimental and get your airworthiness certificate, with either IFR or
VFR operation. I can't think of anything off hand that requires any "round
dial" type gauges. Now, why you would not want a backup "round dial" gauge
for altimeter/airpspeed/turn indicator is another discussion.
Be sure you meet the minimum equipment requirements per the FAR's for VFR or
IFR flight, depending on what your goal is.
You can get a list of local DAR's from the FSDO. I would recommend getting
with a local EAA chapter and seeing who other RV builders have used.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Someday
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Subject: All Glass Certification
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
>
> Has anyone been able to get an all electric, all glass instrument panel
certified for IFR or VFR? I really want to avoid putting any round dials on
my panel if possible.
>
> Also, has anyone used an inspector in the Memphis, TN area other than the
one at the local FSDO?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 7QB
> MEM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Thanks Mike, that's good information!
Steve
7QB
MEM
do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Steve, You do not get a panel certified for IFR. It is the responsibility
of the pilot to determine if he/she has the instruments and radios to comply
with the requirements of FAR 91.205(e). The Operating Limitations that will
be issued will either say that the aircraft is restricted to Day VFR only or
that it is restricted to Day VFR unless appropriately equipped for night
and/or IFR operations. If your inspector or DAR says otherwise then ask him
to look in Order 8130.2E for the proper wording.
Mike Robertson
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| Subject: | Re: Making FM Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>
>
>The neatest and easiest FM antenna I have seen was on Razzmatazz, an
>award winning RV-6A out of Tampa, FL. The builder used a rubber ducky
>antenna mounted low on the forward right side of the firewall and
>extending horizontally into the engine compartment. As I remember, he
>had a panel mounted AM/FM/CD radio. The pilot reported he got great AM
>and FM reception.
>
>Charlie
>San Antonio
>
I've been running a rubber ducky auto antenna on my aluminum boat for 14
years.
Performance is superb to date.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Slider Canopy RIvet Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Tom,
One inch above the bottom edge of the plexi would be fine. On mine I had a
case where about 1/2 of a rivet shows under the side skirt. At one inch you
won't have this problem.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (almost ready to go to the airport for final assembly)
In a message dated 5/20/04 10:44:30 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
tacaruth@ralcorp.com writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: tacaruth@ralcorp.com
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have trimmed the sliding 7A canopy and am ready to drill the holes to the
> front and rear canopy tubes. It says on the plans to use a 2" spacing. My
> question is how close to the lower edge do you continue with the holes? My
> canopy is trimmed about 1/4" above the square horizontal tubes. When I
> look at the side skirts and braces, etc, I see alot of holes for holding
> these on also. I worry about having the holes too close together in the
> lower most hole above the square tube. The lowest hole would be about 1"
> above the lower edge of the plexiglass. How have others that have gone
> before handled this? Should I just temporarily leave out the lower hole
> until the side skirts are installed and then go back and add a last rive,
> if needed? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advanc,
> Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Making FM Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Or, you can use an antenna splitter (used to connect 2 nav's to 1
antenna) and just use your VOR antenna. It works great for FM, however
it will very effectively filter out AM.
Dave
Bob U. wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>
>
>
>
>
>>The neatest and easiest FM antenna I have seen was on Razzmatazz, an
>>award winning RV-6A out of Tampa, FL. The builder used a rubber ducky
>>antenna mounted low on the forward right side of the firewall and
>>extending horizontally into the engine compartment. As I remember, he
>>had a panel mounted AM/FM/CD radio. The pilot reported he got great AM
>>and FM reception.
>>
>>Charlie
>>San Antonio
>>
>>
>>
>
>I've been running a rubber ducky auto antenna on my aluminum boat for 14
>years.
>Performance is superb to date.
>
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:All Glass Certification |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
Ahh..ok. Well some people have used the term "Certified" in the past to
elude to spam cans, and furthermore, the equipment used on them. Yes, it's
a matter of semantics, but you never know what someone might mean by
"Certify". When I go back and read my first reply, it sounds kind of rude,
however it was not intended to be. My apologies.
So to answer your question, I can't answer it, then! I don't know of anyone
who has attempted an all glass panel and received their airworthiness
certificate for the limitations they were seeking. I do know that there
*shouldn't* be any reason why you can not do it, as long as the
aformentioned requirements of equipment were met.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Someday
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV-List: Re:All Glass Certification
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
>
> Yes, I understood to what Mike was alluding. My intent was not to discuss
the pros and cons of glass cockpits or what the FAR's say is required. Read
my message again. I have perused the archives ad nauseum. I simply wanted
to know if anyone has successfully obtained experimental certification to
fly their all electric, all glass experimental airplane either IFR or VFR.
I asked this question because the individual at Aerotronics who is designing
and will be building my panel has run into problems getting all glass
cockpits approved at some locations.
>
> Yes, Paul, you don't have to "certify" anything, but you do have to get
someone to sign off on an airworthiness certificate in order to make that
first flight. In my mind that means someone has to "certify" the airplane,
it's a matter of semantics. I tried to talk to the FSDO today, but our
local inspector was out. I will call again tomorrow morning and be sure to
ask local DAR's, I forgot to do that today.
>
> Nomex gloves, flight suit, and cotton underwear still on.
>
> Steve
> 7QB
> MEM
>
>
> do not archive
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> First of all, you don't have to "certify" anything. Second, just about
> anything you can put in an experimental, short of a nuclear warhead will
be
> approved. To answer your question, yes, you could put an all glass
cockpit
> in an experimental and get your airworthiness certificate, with either IFR
or
> VFR operation. I can't think of anything off hand that requires any
"round
> dial" type gauges. Now, why you would not want a backup "round dial"
gauge
> for altimeter/airpspeed/turn indicator is another discussion.
>
> Be sure you meet the minimum equipment requirements per the FAR's for VFR
or
> IFR flight, depending on what your goal is.
>
> You can get a list of local DAR's from the FSDO. I would recommend
getting
> with a local EAA chapter and seeing who other RV builders have used.
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold
> RV-10 Someday
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: All Glass Certification
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve&Anita Nyman" <nyman@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > Has anyone been able to get an all electric, all glass instrument panel
> certified for IFR or VFR? I really want to avoid putting any round dials
on
> my panel if possible.
> >
> > Also, has anyone used an inspector in the Memphis, TN area other than
the
> one at the local FSDO?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> > 7QB
> > MEM
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil Coolers |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Dan,
Just curious, did you happen to calibrate your oil temp transducer on your
ACS 2002? Reason I ask is that I dropped mine in boiling water and found
that it read 230 degrees at boiling point, some 18 degrees high. I
recalibrated and it now reads correct even at room temp. I just took a
small pot and heated it using a propane bottle right near the engine so I
didn't have to remove the wiring. Wouldn't it be nice if you could get
another 18 degrees!
Pat Hatch
RV-4
RV-6
RV-7 Finishing Kit
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
<RV7or7A@yahoogroups.com>; <rv-list@matronics.com>;
"<lycoming@yahoogroups.com>" <skid@oilcoolers.com>
Subject: RV-List: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil Coolers
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Oil temp...
>
> FOR SALE: Used 7-row Aero Classics oil cooler model 8000075, mfr 02/03,
85
> hours. One corner of the rear mounting flange has been cleanly cut away
to
> clear the engine mount. This oil cooler should work absolutely fine on an
> O-360 or O-320. Van's sells it for $165...I will ship it (48 US) for $130
> or best offer. (I will post photos of it on www.rvproject.com tonight.)
>
> On my engine (200hp IO-360-A1B6), my oil temp has been running high since
> day one. Usually around 205 in cruise at 75% best power at 55F OAT. At
> lower OATs, say 45F, the oil temp would drop to 195. The biggest problem
> has been in the pattern, when the airspeed drops down to 90mph or
so...when
> doing pattern after pattern, the oil temp would get up into the 220s
easily.
>
> This is the "big" IO-360, which I've been told generates considerably more
> heat than the vastly different O-360. But for all 360 models, maximum oil
> inlet temp is 245F. Some have said my "high" oil temps are acceptable,
but
> I really want to shoot for under 200F for the long haul. 180 to 190 would
> be ideal. Interestingly, my CHTs have been nice and cool, around
330-350F.
> The highest CHT I've seen is about 375F in the worst of conditions. So
> baffling *probably* wasn't the problem.
>
> After break-in, the oil temp didn't really drop too much. Maybe 10
degrees
> or so on average. After break-in was done, I switched to AeroShell 15W50
> multigrade oil, which is what I've always used in my other planes and love
> it.
>
> Several folks advised me to use a straight 50-weight oil such as 100W, and
a
> few people said that their temps actually dropped 10 degrees or more when
> they switched to 100.
>
> At my last oil change a week ago, I switched to 100W. I flew several
hours
> and didn't notice any improvement...in fact, I saw the opposite effect if
> anything, maybe 5 degrees hotter oil temp on average.
>
> I had heard that just about everybody with the 200hp angle valve IO-360
has
> had oil temp problems with Van's "stock" oil cooler. Dan Masys, I
believe,
> switched to a 9-row and saw a major improvement. Well, I don't want to
> reconstruct my baffles if I don't have to...so...I wanted to experiment
with
> what is theoretically a more efficient oil cooler at the same form factor.
> I had read some reviews (thanks Randy) that the Stewart Warner oil coolers
> are the most efficient ones out there at any size.
>
> So today I broke down and drove up to Pacific Oil Coolers and bought a
> Stewart Warner 8406R oil cooler. I slapped the $419 down (includes the
$25
> core) and bit the bullet. It's a 6-plate oil cooler, instead of a 7-row
> like the Aero Classics. The Stewart Warner cooler has larger fin area due
> to more space between plates. It's heavier, but it's much more durable.
> The end tanks are a much beefier design. The form factor is *almost*
> identical to the Aero Classics 7-row...close enough that I could just swap
> 'em and go. It's much more expensive, but let's see if it's worth it for
my
> particular setup...
>
> This afternoon I did the swap, but I hit a snag. Van's calls out using
> aluminum -8D fittings on the oil cooler as per their FWF plans. I know
most
> people advise using steel firewall forward, especially for fuel lines and
> stuff...and I did. But this was the exception. I just blindly followed
the
> plans. DO NOT USE ALUMINUM FITTINGS ON YOUR OIL COOLER. I learned this
the
> hard way. I threaded the fittings into the new oil cooler, the threads
> gauled. I even used a teflon pipe sealant paste -- the stuff that the
> AeroClassics cooler had come with originally (Loctite 565, a white teflon
> lube/paste). Despite that, the threads were destroyed. As I removed the
> aluminum fitting from the oil cooler, the threads broke off and chewed up
> the oil cooler's threads. Dag bernit!
>
> I drove back to Pacific Oil Coolers, and they were friggin' AWESOME. Paul
> got me right into a repair scenario...he had one of his techs take the
> cooler and re-tap it. They told me that you should never use aluminum
> fittings on an aluminum oil cooler...different grades of aluminum,
different
> rates of expansion/contraction, etc...not good. Wayne said that even
though
> the threads may look & feel fine, aluminum will gaul easily. USE STEEL
> FITTINGS. After cleaning the threads and tapping it, the tech pressure
> tested it to 180 psi in a water tank. After some teflon tape (they advise
> to USE TEFLON TAPE, not the paste...these are the oil cooler experts here,
> folks, I'm just repeating what they said) was applied to the fitting, the
> leak test passed. They threw the oil cooler on their two-way cirulatory
> pressure fluid cleaner for a few minutes, blew it out, and it was
basically
> like getting an "overhaul" on the spot. "Go upstairs and pay the lady 20
> bucks." Cool! That was a bargain for an on-the-spot fix that included
two
> steel fittings! Anyway, an educational experience for sure. Use steel!
> Pacific Oil Coolers saved my butt, took care of my walk in business, and
> didn't rip me off. Good folks. http://www.oilcoolers.com
>
> Ok...so when I got back to the airport I installed the new oil cooler,
> hooked up the hoses, RTV'd the gaps, etc. I went flying (with Dave
> Richardson...finally got him a ride!). I didn't have high expectations,
> since the oil cooler was the same basic form factor. Pacific Oil Coolers
> had said that I would probably see an improvement, and it may be a drastic
> one, it may not. But they were sure I'd see an improvement.
>
> It was dramatic.
>
> We climbed from field elevation (650'MSL) to 8000' at 95-100 mph indicated
> the whole way (I normally climb at about 125-130mph indicated). The temp
> didn't go above 212F (OAT at 8000' was about 57F). Ok, could be a fluke,
> just a cold start...let's see how it levelled out in cruise. Normally
> before, when it would hit 220 in a climb, it would take forever to get
back
> down to 210 or so. Today, after levelling off, the oil temp quickly
(within
> a minute or two) settled down to 192. Woohoo!! That was at full
throttle,
> 2500 RPM, leaned to within 75 of peak (on both sides).
>
> After powering down to about 22" and 2400 RPM, it settled down around
182F.
> Bitchin!
>
> Then we flew about 3 or 4 patterns at French Valley. This would be a
decent
> test. For the first two patterns, it didn't go above 190. On the third,
it
> did go up to 210, then up to 214 on a 4000' climbout. Once levelling off
at
> cruise about 55-65% power, it came back down to 180. Nice, that's more
like
> it!
>
> So if you're going to hang a 200hp IO-360 on your RV, I strongly advise
> leaving whatever oil cooler Van's would otherwise send you out of your FWF
> kit and going with the Stewart Warner. The next size up would be even
> better, but I believe this 6-plate 8406R will do the job. We'll see how
it
> handles the worst days in summer...
>
> Anyway, lots learned today, and I'm much happier that my engine is happy!
> As I mentioned above, the old oil cooler is for sale. I think it would be
a
> perfectly good oil cooler on an O-360 or O-320.
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> P.S. -- Van's, if you're listening...I respect that you promote using
> lightweight components, but I think (a) aluminum fittings called out on
the
> plans is a bad idea, and (b) you shouldn't ship the 7-row Aero Classics
oil
> cooler with 200hp IO-360 FWF kits. I apologize in advance if my
experience
> is an anomaly (I don't believe so based on what I've heard from other
> builders) and this recommendation is not solid.
>
>
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| Subject: | gear leg fairings & centering ball |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ford" <dford@michweb.net>
My 6 has been flying about 75 hours now and am zeroing in on aligning gear leg
fairings. I have been flying with no wheel pants and the ball flies to the right
a little, with wheel pants the same, with gear leg fairings is where it gets
touchy--I can align the fairings to the point that the ball flies to the left,
bringing them to a place where the ball flies centered in cruise. The question
is--is there anything wrong with adjusting for yaw using gear leg fairings
instead of a rudder trim tab?
Dave Ford
RV6
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| Subject: | Re: WOW!!!! Oil temp, Stewart Warner, Pacific Oil Coolers |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> Just curious, did you happen to calibrate your oil temp transducer on your
> ACS 2002? Reason I ask is that I dropped mine in boiling water and found
> that it read 230 degrees at boiling point, some 18 degrees high. I
> recalibrated and it now reads correct even at room temp. I just took a
> small pot and heated it using a propane bottle right near the engine so I
> didn't have to remove the wiring. Wouldn't it be nice if you could get
> another 18 degrees!
I didn't. I'd be very surprised if mine could be off by that much... (1)
It was indicating 177-180 at the lowest point in low-power cruise
yesterday...I highly doubt it could actually be 160-165. (2) They come
pre-calibrated from the factory (calibration numbers on the sensor bag & the
sheet provided). (3) I doubt my calibration methods could compare in
accuracy to what the factory does.
Regardless, I saw a pronounced DROP in oil temp when switching oil coolers.
If I switched and saw no improvement, and then used a 9-row and saw no
improvement, I would be more suspicious of the gauge. But I saw an
immediate and marked improvement, and the numbers are now within "expert
recommended" range. I'm happy. Another 18 degrees and this oil would be
sludgy... 8-)
do not archive
)_( Dan
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| Subject: | Re: gear leg fairings & centering ball |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
My RV was similar to yours with the gear leg fairings off. I kept the
fairing straight and used a small rudder tab because I thought (and
this is pure speculation) that because of the longer moment on the
rudder, it would take less force (and therefore drag) to move the tail
back in the right spot.
Now that's my story and I'm sticking to it until someone else comes up
with a better line of BS :-)
Laird
On May 20, 2004, at 9:13 PM, Dave Ford wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ford" <dford@michweb.net>
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> My 6 has been flying about 75 hours now and am zeroing in on aligning
> gear leg fairings. I have been flying with no wheel pants and the
> ball flies to the right a little, with wheel pants the same, with gear
> leg fairings is where it gets touchy--I can align the fairings to the
> point that the ball flies to the left, bringing them to a place where
> the ball flies centered in cruise. The question is--is there anything
> wrong with adjusting for yaw using gear leg fairings instead of a
> rudder trim tab?
>
> Dave Ford
> RV6
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