---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/27/04: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:30 AM - Re: Breather Hose (Alex Peterson) 2. 05:09 AM - Re: Electronic Ignition Problem? (Stucklen, Frederic IFC) 3. 05:35 AM - rv8 seats sold (GB) 4. 06:06 AM - Re: Breather Hose (Larry Bowen) 5. 06:09 AM - Re: AD's & SB's (richard dudley) 6. 07:13 AM - Re: Fw: LED flashlights (UFOBUCK@aol.com) 7. 07:15 AM - Aluminum air vents (EddyFernan@aol.com) 8. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Electronic Ignition Problem? (Gary Zilik) 9. 07:31 AM - Re: Breather Hose (Gary Zilik) 10. 07:32 AM - Re: rv8 seats sold (BRUCE GRAY) 11. 07:39 AM - Re: AD's & SB's (Mike Robertson) 12. 08:09 AM - Re: Breather Hose (Nielsen Mark) 13. 08:25 AM - Re: FW: And When the Holes Don't Line Up? (Phil Birkelbach) 14. 08:29 AM - Re: Aluminum air vents (Ross Schlotthauer) 15. 09:13 AM - Re: Aluminum air vents (Bill VonDane) 16. 09:44 AM - Re: Low Fuel Pressure (Bob) 17. 02:38 PM - Re: AD's & SB's (richard dudley) 18. 06:09 PM - Re: unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com (Gert) 19. 06:12 PM - Re: Aluminum air vents (Gert) 20. 06:44 PM - Attn Gert : unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com (Ed Anderson) 21. 07:22 PM - Wing wiring conduits & heated pitot tube (David Carter) 22. 07:50 PM - Re: Attn Gert : unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com (Gert) 23. 08:44 PM - Re: Wing wiring conduits & heated pitot tube (Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)) 24. 09:15 PM - Re: Attn Gert : unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com (Dj Merrill) 25. 09:24 PM - Re: Low Fuel Pressure <6.0.1.1.0.20040521132943.032b6510@mail.brier.net> (Denis Walsh) 26. 10:22 PM - And When the Holes Don't Line Up? (Kathleen (rv7)) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:24 AM PST US From: "Alex Peterson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Breather Hose --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" I used top quality, preformed heater hose from NAPA, which I've had excellent service in cars with. However, after two years on the breather line in my 6A, it started to get mushy. I used a 180 degree section to change direction, and then used regular aircraft breather hose. I replaced it with a metal tube I fashioned from some copper plumbing parts. My breather line does see oil, as I fly inverted from time to time. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 472 hours http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" > > Not very hot, I used rubber radiator hose sourced from the > local auto parts store with no ill effects for 368 hours. > > Randy Lervold > > > > Folks, > > What temp. does the breather hose need to withstand? > > Thanks, > > Amit. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:41 AM PST US From: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" Subject: RV-List: Re: Electronic Ignition Problem? --> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" Andy, I'm assuming that your listed 18 deg advance on the electronic ignition is in addition to the 25 deg base point. If it's not, then you are running the timing very retarded. Otherwise, It sounds like you have a connection problem as what you have described for operation on just the electronic ignition is not typical. Check the connections on all ignition leads first. The leads are resistive, so they should ohm out to somewhere around 10,000 ohms. But if there is a bad connection on either end, the resistance would be much higher or infinite. You might also be picking up some noise in the mag hole pickup device leads. Be sure that none of your ignition leads are near this lead. Also check the to see that your power source is for some reason intermittent. Another area to investigate would be the spark plug gaps. Be sure that they are somewhere near .030 or so....... I have two of Jeff's systems on my RV-6A, and have not had any problems. On a previous RV-6A, I had exactly your installation, and also had no problems (in 2008 Hrs of operation).... I wouldn't fly your plane until you have this problem fixed...... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV Let me start with my base assumption. I was under the impression that electronic ignition worked better than mags under all conditions. Less or no RPM drop at mag check time, better burn, quicker start, etc etc etc. So far so good? What I see: At 1800 rpm doing mag check, both the electronic ign and the mag give equal drops in RPM. In flight at hi-cruise if I switch off the mag I get VERY rough running, with backfire pop of unburned fuel until I switch the mag back on. Turning off the electronic ign the mag works fine by itself with a slight RPM drop. What's going on here? My setup: 0-320-D2A Carb based, 1 Slick, 1 Jeff Rose Electro-Air with mag hole sensor Conditions of test: 2550 RPM 26.0 MAP 60 OAT 107 Carb Temp 350 CHT 1366 EGT 18 deg Advance on Electronic ign 10.7 GPH 3500FT ALT - Andy Karmy RV9A Seattle WA andy@karmy.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:38 AM PST US From: GB Subject: RV-List: rv8 seats sold --> RV-List message posted by: GB My friend says thanks for the response...the rv8 seats are sold! Glen RV9 wings as soon as they get here Moultrie, GA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:10 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Breather Hose From: "Larry Bowen" --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Why can't a auto breather be used? Like those small, round, filter-looking ones seen sticking out of valve covers on old muscle cars. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com do not archive Alex Peterson said: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" > > > I used top quality, preformed heater hose from NAPA, which I've had > excellent service in cars with. However, after two years on the > breather line in my 6A, it started to get mushy. I used a 180 degree > section to change direction, and then used regular aircraft breather > hose. I replaced it with a metal tube I fashioned from some copper > plumbing parts. My breather line does see oil, as I fly inverted from > time to time. > > Alex Peterson > Maple Grove, MN > RV6-A N66AP 472 hours > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" >> >> Not very hot, I used rubber radiator hose sourced from the >> local auto parts store with no ill effects for 368 hours. >> >> Randy Lervold >> >> >> > Folks, >> > What temp. does the breather hose need to withstand? >> > Thanks, >> > Amit. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:02 AM PST US From: richard dudley Subject: Re: RV-List: AD's & SB's --> RV-List message posted by: richard dudley Mike, I have an O-320-D1A in my nearly finished 6A. I would sure appreciate copies of those lists of SBs and ADs for that engine. Thanks in advance. Richard Dudley do not archive Mike Robertson wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" > >I have every one of both should you need them. Drop me a line. > >Mike Robertson > > > > >>From: Bill VonDane >>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >>To: vansairforce , rv-list@matronics.com, >>rv8list@yahoogroups.com, RV10@yahoogroups.com >>Subject: RV-List: AD's & SB's >>Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:49:51 -0600 >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane >> >>Just wondering if anyone has already complied a list of the applicable ADs >>& >>SBs for the O320? >> >>Thanks... >> >>-Bill VonDane >>EAA Tech Counselor >>RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs >>www.vondane.com >>www.creativair.com >>www.epanelbuilder.com >> >>do not archive >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:41 AM PST US From: UFOBUCK@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: LED flashlights --> RV-List message posted by: UFOBUCK@aol.com In a message dated 5/28/2004 8:34:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dcarter@datarecall.net writes: > . I don't buy anything made in > > > China DAMN RIGHT !!!!! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:08 AM PST US From: EddyFernan@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Aluminum air vents --> RV-List message posted by: EddyFernan@aol.com I thought the fellow RVers could benefit from my experience. I saw your blurb about the new large aluminum air vents that Van's is selling, and I was about to order them when another builder told me that Affordablepanels.com was selling nicer ones much cheaper. I couldn't make up my mind on which ones to order, so I ordered a pair from Vans, and another one from Affordable Panels. Well, after having seen them both, and I will send back the ones I bought from Van's. I just thought I should let everyone know, so they can get them while they are cheap. Eddy Fernandez In canopy mode RV9a ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:46 AM PST US From: Gary Zilik Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Electronic Ignition Problem? --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik I just went through this on my last long trip. The symptoms were the same as yours but mine finally died completely so it was easy to trouble shoot. 1. A bad plug will render two cylinders inop since they run on the same coil and both plugs fire at the same time. A wasted spark system. Sort of sucks that one plug will take out two cylinders 2. A bad plug lead will do the same as a bad plug. Usually only surfaces at higher power settings when cylinder pressures are high. 3. A bad hall effect sensor. Check the resistance between the red and black wire. It should be 600-800 ohms. 4. In my case, the red wire for the hall effect sensor failed and was intermittent until it finally hard failed. A quick fix once it was found. Gary Stucklen, Frederic IFC wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" > >Andy, > > I'm assuming that your listed 18 deg advance on the electronic ignition >is in addition to the 25 deg base point. If it's not, then you are running >the timing very retarded. > Otherwise, It sounds like you have a connection problem as what you have >described for operation on just the electronic ignition is not typical. >Check the connections on all ignition leads first. The leads are resistive, >so they should ohm out to somewhere around 10,000 ohms. But if there is a >bad connection on either end, the resistance would be much higher or >infinite. > You might also be picking up some noise in the mag hole pickup device >leads. Be sure that none of your ignition leads are near this lead. Also >check the to see that your power source is for some reason intermittent. > Another area to investigate would be the spark plug gaps. Be sure that >they are somewhere near .030 or so....... > I have two of Jeff's systems on my RV-6A, and have not had any problems. >On a previous RV-6A, I had exactly your installation, and also had no >problems (in 2008 Hrs of operation).... > I wouldn't fly your plane until you have this problem fixed...... > >Fred Stucklen >RV-6A N926RV > > > Let me start with my base assumption. I was under the impression that > electronic ignition worked better than mags under all conditions. Less > > or no RPM drop at mag check time, better burn, quicker start, etc etc > etc. So far so good? > > What I see: > > At 1800 rpm doing mag check, both the electronic ign and the mag give > equal drops in RPM. In flight at hi-cruise if I switch off the mag I > get VERY rough running, with backfire pop of unburned fuel until I > switch the mag back on. Turning off the electronic ign the mag works > fine by itself with a slight RPM drop. What's going on here? > > My setup: 0-320-D2A Carb based, 1 Slick, 1 Jeff Rose Electro-Air with > mag hole sensor > > Conditions of test: > > 2550 RPM > 26.0 MAP > 60 OAT > 107 Carb Temp > 350 CHT > 1366 EGT > 18 deg Advance on Electronic ign > 10.7 GPH > 3500FT ALT > > > - Andy Karmy > RV9A Seattle WA > andy@karmy.com > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:30 AM PST US From: Gary Zilik Subject: Re: RV-List: Breather Hose --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik The main reason is that we want to dump the oily fumes overboard and not in the engine compartment. Gary Larry Bowen wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > >Why can't a auto breather be used? Like those small, round, >filter-looking ones seen sticking out of valve covers on old muscle cars. > >- >Larry Bowen >Larry@BowenAero.com >http://BowenAero.com >do not archive > >Alex Peterson said: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" >> >> >>I used top quality, preformed heater hose from NAPA, which I've had >>excellent service in cars with. However, after two years on the >>breather line in my 6A, it started to get mushy. I used a 180 degree >>section to change direction, and then used regular aircraft breather >>hose. I replaced it with a metal tube I fashioned from some copper >>plumbing parts. My breather line does see oil, as I fly inverted from >>time to time. >> >>Alex Peterson >>Maple Grove, MN >>RV6-A N66AP 472 hours >>http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ >> >> >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" >>> >>>Not very hot, I used rubber radiator hose sourced from the >>>local auto parts store with no ill effects for 368 hours. >>> >>>Randy Lervold >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Folks, >>>>What temp. does the breather hose need to withstand? >>>>Thanks, >>>>Amit. >>>> >>>> > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:20 AM PST US From: "BRUCE GRAY" Subject: RE: RV-List: rv8 seats sold --> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" I knew that wouldn't last long. Thank you for the heads-up. Bruce >From: GB >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: RV List >Subject: RV-List: rv8 seats sold >Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:31:28 -0400 > >--> RV-List message posted by: GB > >My friend says thanks for the response...the rv8 seats are sold! > >Glen >RV9 wings as soon as they get here >Moultrie, GA > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:41 AM PST US From: "Mike Robertson" Subject: Re: RV-List: AD's & SB's --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" Richard, Here is the AD list. For your series engine thare are 17 possible ADs. Some of them will not apply. I would think about 6-8 of them would. The really important ones are the ones that say do at overhaul/dis-assemble, the oil pump AD, and the one about the accessory drive gear bolt. The text of these ADs are available on the FAA.GOV website at: http://av-info.faa.gov/default.asp?PG=Aircraft Once you figure out which ADs apply then you can narrow down which SBs apply. The total stack of SBs/SIs/SLs is about 12 inches thick so there is no way I can send you the entire list. But if you need info on a specific one let me know and I can email you that one. Mike >From: richard dudley >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: AD's & SB's >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:24:06 -0400 > >--> RV-List message posted by: richard dudley > >Mike, >I have an O-320-D1A in my nearly finished 6A. I would sure appreciate >copies of those lists of SBs and ADs for that engine. >Thanks in advance. > >Richard Dudley >do not archive > >Mike Robertson wrote: > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" > > > >I have every one of both should you need them. Drop me a line. > > > >Mike Robertson > > > > > > > > > >>From: Bill VonDane > >>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com > >>To: vansairforce , rv-list@matronics.com, > >>rv8list@yahoogroups.com, RV10@yahoogroups.com > >>Subject: RV-List: AD's & SB's > >>Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:49:51 -0600 > >> > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane > >> > >>Just wondering if anyone has already complied a list of the applicable >ADs > >>& > >>SBs for the O320? > >> > >>Thanks... > >> > >>-Bill VonDane > >>EAA Tech Counselor > >>RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs > >>www.vondane.com > >>www.creativair.com > >>www.epanelbuilder.com > >> > >>do not archive > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:04 AM PST US From: Nielsen Mark Subject: RV-List: Re: Breather Hose --> RV-List message posted by: Nielsen Mark > > Not very hot, I used rubber radiator hose sourced from the local auto parts store > with no ill effects for 368 hours. > > Randy Lervold > > >> Folks, >> What temp. does the breather hose need to withstand? >> Thanks, >> Amit. Initially, I used automotive heater hose for my breather hose. After 200-300 hours the hose started to sweat oil. Not a big problem, other than the hose was grimy to the touch. I replaced it with a hose that was rated for fuel and oil service. (I got the hose at a local speed shop.) I like the new hose a lot better. Mark Nielsen RV-6; 909 hours ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:03 AM PST US From: "Phil Birkelbach" Subject: Re: RV-List: FW: And When the Holes Don't Line Up? --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Birkelbach" Have you tried to see how the thing fits with the top skin clecoed on. You may simply need to adjust some of the flutes. Also you could simply drill all the holes in the baggage cover out to #12 instead of #19 and that would probably let it move around enough to get all the screws in. That's easier than trying to move the nutplates. Maybe I am misunderstanding your question. Godspeed, Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas RV-7 N727WB (Reserved) - Panel http://www.myrv7.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen (rv7)" Subject: RV-List: FW: And When the Holes Don't Line Up? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" > > > In inspecting my QB (7a) fuselage I found that (f706) cabin member has a > noticeable bend in it. When it is forced straight, the metal (f652 upper > cabin bulkhead) bows out and there isn't any reasonable way to make it all > fit. OK, I don't know how to further explain, so there is a picture or two > at http://www.rv7.us/daily040516.htm The bottom line is that the > pre-punched holes don't line up. I've decided on a fix -- redrill the holes > in the back side and move the nutplates. That won't show inside the cabin, > but I'm not sure that the problem isn't with the rib (f-706). If it is, it > would mean that the outer skin wouldn't fit. Any suggestions on how I can > determine where the real culprit is? This is the way it came from Van's. > Any ideas? Anyone else have this problem? > > Kathleen > www.rv7.us > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:29:36 AM PST US From: "Ross Schlotthauer" Subject: RE: RV-List: Aluminum air vents --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Schlotthauer" For another option check out: Check out www.experimentalair.com/products.html >From: EddyFernan@aol.com >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Aluminum air vents >Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:11:57 EDT > >--> RV-List message posted by: EddyFernan@aol.com > >I thought the fellow RVers could benefit from my experience. I saw your >blurb about the new large aluminum air vents that Van's is selling, and I >was >about to order them when another builder told me that Affordablepanels.com >was >selling nicer ones much cheaper. I couldn't make up my mind on which ones >to >order, so I ordered a pair from Vans, and another one from Affordable >Panels. >Well, after having seen them both, and I will send back the ones I bought >from >Van's. I just thought I should let everyone know, so they can get them >while >they are cheap. > >Eddy Fernandez >In canopy mode >RV9a > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:49 AM PST US From: Bill VonDane Subject: Re: RV-List: Aluminum air vents rv8list@yahoogroups.com, RV10@yahoogroups.com --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane There is another option from www.experimentalair.com: http://www.experimentalair.com/products.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: Aluminum air vents --> RV-List message posted by: EddyFernan@aol.com I thought the fellow RVers could benefit from my experience. I saw your blurb about the new large aluminum air vents that Van's is selling, and I was about to order them when another builder told me that Affordablepanels.com was selling nicer ones much cheaper. I couldn't make up my mind on which ones to order, so I ordered a pair from Vans, and another one from Affordable Panels. Well, after having seen them both, and I will send back the ones I bought from Van's. I just thought I should let everyone know, so they can get them while they are cheap. Eddy Fernandez In canopy mode RV9a ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:01 AM PST US From: "Bob " <6.0.1.1.0.20040521132943.032b6510@mail.brier.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Low Fuel Pressure <6.0.1.1.0.20040521132943.032b6510@mail.brier.net> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob <6.0.1.1.0.20040521132943.032b6510@mail.brier.net> >Sometimes I read posts such as yours and worry about the pilot continuing >to fly the plane with a problem such as this. I wouldn't get back into this >aircraft until I found the solution or, at least, found a way to check out >the problem without killing myself. My thoughts exactly. I do fly with a parachute, but I certainly do not look forward to using it. Any ideas of how to find the solution without flying will be greatly appreciated. Bob RV6 NightFighter ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:00 PM PST US From: richard dudley Subject: Re: RV-List: AD's & SB's --> RV-List message posted by: richard dudley Thanks Mike, I should have mentioned that my engine is new with a manufacturing date of 05-03-02. My interest is in knowing what ADs or SBs might apply since manufacture. I assume that all ADs and SBs up to date of manufacture were applied. So my concern would be any that followed. Regards, Richard Dudley Mike Robertson wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" > >Richard, > >Here is the AD list. For your series engine thare are 17 possible ADs. >Some of them will not apply. I would think about 6-8 of them would. The >really important ones are the ones that say do at overhaul/dis-assemble, the >oil pump AD, and the one about the accessory drive gear bolt. The text of >these ADs are available on the FAA.GOV website at: > >http://av-info.faa.gov/default.asp?PG=Aircraft > >Once you figure out which ADs apply then you can narrow down which SBs >apply. The total stack of SBs/SIs/SLs is about 12 inches thick so there is >no way I can send you the entire list. But if you need info on a specific >one let me know and I can email you that one. > >Mike > > > > >>From: richard dudley >>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV-List: AD's & SB's >>Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:24:06 -0400 >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: richard dudley >> >>Mike, >>I have an O-320-D1A in my nearly finished 6A. I would sure appreciate >>copies of those lists of SBs and ADs for that engine. >>Thanks in advance. >> >>Richard Dudley >>do not archive >> >>Mike Robertson wrote: >> >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" >>> >>>I have every one of both should you need them. Drop me a line. >>> >>>Mike Robertson >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Bill VonDane >>>>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>>To: vansairforce , rv-list@matronics.com, >>>>rv8list@yahoogroups.com, RV10@yahoogroups.com >>>>Subject: RV-List: AD's & SB's >>>>Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:49:51 -0600 >>>> >>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane >>>> >>>>Just wondering if anyone has already complied a list of the applicable >>>> >>>> >>ADs >> >> >>>>& >>>>SBs for the O320? >>>> >>>>Thanks... >>>> >>>>-Bill VonDane >>>>EAA Tech Counselor >>>>RV-8A ~ N8WV ~ Colorado Springs >>>>www.vondane.com >>>>www.creativair.com >>>>www.epanelbuilder.com >>>> >>>>do not archive >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:56 PM PST US From: Gert Subject: Re: RV-List: unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com --> RV-List message posted by: Gert Okay, from one friendly NWA to another NWA. No SportFlyingShop.com did not download anything, nor did I opt for anything when looking at their website. Websites can and will download your email address without your knowledge. It is not a virus, nor is it spyware adware or other ware, it's an internet feature ;-) Gert Scott Vanartsdalen wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen > > I ran a scan of my system before I visted their site and afterwared. They didn't download so much as a cookie to my machine. I'm only running the standard firewall that comes with WinXP. > > However, there are a lot of unscrupulous websites out there. Remember, when a website displays a box that says "Our website is best viewed with Would you like to download it now?" JUST SAY NO. Never click yes to anything a website "offers" you that you didn't specifically request. Even if you did request it think twice about it. > > Brought to you by a friendly neighborhood Network Administrator. > > Charlie England wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England > > Brian Denk wrote: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >> >> >> >> >>>Anybody else getting unsolicited email from www.SportFlyingShop.com >>>after visiting their website. >>> >>>I am pretty sure I did NOT sign up for anything, just had a brief look >>>after I read an email here on the list. >>> >>>Darn anyoing, I know I won't visit their site anymore. >>> >>>Gert >>>-- >>> >>> >> >>Yes! They planted spyware or something on our PC's. Common marketing ploy >>nowadays. Annoying indeed. >> >>Screw 'em. >> >>Brian Denk >>RV8 N94BD >>RV10 '51 >> >>do not archive >> > > I've had good luck with Spybot software from: > > http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download > > It's free; the author just requests a donation of a few dollars to help > offset his bandwidth costs for making it available to the public. > > I'm no computer genius; all I can say is that my 5 year old computer > seems to run a little faster since I let this software clean several > dozen spyware & adware programs off my hard drive. > > Charlie > > > -- > Scott VanArtsdalen > RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!! > > When a man does all he can > though it succeeds not well, > blame not him that did it." > -- George Washington > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:26 PM PST US From: Gert Subject: Re: RV-List: Aluminum air vents --> RV-List message posted by: Gert Or you get a pair from B&B hardware, Kansas (??) for under a 100, just bought another pair from them. They showed the vents at OSh, I believe they are 1-1/4" vents. Gert EddyFernan@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: EddyFernan@aol.com > > I thought the fellow RVers could benefit from my experience. I saw your > blurb about the new large aluminum air vents that Van's is selling, and I was > about to order them when another builder told me that Affordablepanels.com was > selling nicer ones much cheaper. I couldn't make up my mind on which ones to > order, so I ordered a pair from Vans, and another one from Affordable Panels. > Well, after having seen them both, and I will send back the ones I bought from > Van's. I just thought I should let everyone know, so they can get them while > they are cheap. > > Eddy Fernandez > In canopy mode > RV9a > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:07 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Attn Gert : RV-List: unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" > --> RV-List message posted by: Gert > > Okay, from one friendly NWA to another NWA. > > No SportFlyingShop.com did not download anything, nor did I opt for > anything when looking at their website. Websites can and will download > your email address without your knowledge. > > It is not a virus, nor is it spyware adware or other ware, it's an > internet feature ;-) > > Gert > Gert, is there anyway to disable this "feature" in the MS IExplore 6.0 Browser?? Ed Anderson eanderson@carolina.rr.com ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:52 PM PST US From: "David Carter" Subject: RV-List: Wing wiring conduits & heated pitot tube --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" I'm studying my RV-6 QB wings & Dwg 10 showing aileron push tube, and other dwgs and websites showing ways to route pitot tube tubing for Gretz heated pitot tube. Looks like lots of space in big lightening holes in all the ribs aft of spar. Aileron pushtube has to go in there but seems there shouldn't be any problem securing 1 or two small PVC pipes in there for 12volt wires to strobes & position lights & RG-58 (0.20 inch OD) to a Bob Archer antenna in each wing tip. There'd be a 12 wire to landing light and 12 v wire to heated pitot in left tip, plus air plumbing from pitot in left. Ques 1: Has it been common practice to run wires in conduits aft of the spar in those lightening holes? I'd secure the pvc at each end (root & tip) with an Adel clamp. I'm thinking I'd let one pvc conduit lay on the bottom of the lightening holes and mount the other opposite on the top side (keep my strobe pwr wire sep from antenna cable, just in case) - I can secure that upper conduit with 1 or more Adel clamps, starting above the inspection plate area and outboard (that area is open on the QB wings so I'd install the conduit before closing the wing). Seems like the pvc conduits should be out of the way of the aileron tube in inbd half of wing. Ques 2: Few months ago some folks reported large jumps in price of Gretz pitot tubes. Besides salvage, is there a lower priced alternative for new heated pitot that has any track record of reliability - or potential, if new? Is Dynon coming out with their own heated pitot tube? I'm planning on a D-10. - I've reviewed websites and found the caution about wing tie down being uncomfortably close to Gretz pitot tube, if mounted just outb'd of std location for Van's pitot tube. My QB wings already have the square threaded rod for the tie down eye bolts in the stock place, so I'm not planning to move them outbd 1 bay - no access now. - So, looks like rope would be running down and outbd from std tie down point, right under the pitot tube, mounted slight further outbd. Been a problem or is that a reasonable plan? Appreciate any comments and words of wisdom on these two areas. David ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:39 PM PST US From: Gert Subject: Re: Attn Gert : RV-List: unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com --> RV-List message posted by: Gert Hmm not that I know of, but then again, I don't really use IE6. There are however a slew of settings you can play with. Active X does make it easier to get your info, if you do not tighten up or disable IE6 Active X controls. problem is some websites won't work without them. I'd say, the heck with those websites.......... Gert Ed Anderson wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Gert >> >>Okay, from one friendly NWA to another NWA. >> >>No SportFlyingShop.com did not download anything, nor did I opt for >>anything when looking at their website. Websites can and will download >>your email address without your knowledge. >> >>It is not a virus, nor is it spyware adware or other ware, it's an >>internet feature ;-) >> >>Gert >> > > > > Gert, is there anyway to disable this "feature" in the MS IExplore 6.0 > Browser?? > > Ed Anderson > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:23 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Wing wiring conduits & heated pitot tube From: "Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank van der Hulst (Staff WG)" Many people do run conduit there. From reading the RV-list, it seems that getting the wires forward of the spar to the instrument panel might be a bit awkward. I opted to drill new holes in the LE ribs for conduit, and then to run wires between the fuel tanks and the spar (where the tube to the pitot goes). I don't know how effective this is, since I haven't actually run any wires. Frank -----Original Message----- --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" I'm studying my RV-6 QB wings & Dwg 10 showing aileron push tube, and other dwgs and websites showing ways to route pitot tube tubing for Gretz heated pitot tube. Looks like lots of space in big lightening holes in all the ribs aft of spar. Aileron pushtube has to go in there but seems there shouldn't be any problem securing 1 or two small PVC pipes in there for 12volt wires to strobes & position lights & RG-58 (0.20 inch OD) to a Bob Archer antenna in each wing tip. There'd be a 12 wire to landing light and 12 v wire to heated pitot in left tip, plus air plumbing from pitot in left. Ques 1: Has it been common practice to run wires in conduits aft of the spar in those lightening holes? I'd secure the pvc at each end (root & tip) with an Adel clamp. I'm thinking I'd let one pvc conduit lay on the bottom of the lightening holes and mount the other opposite on the top side (keep my strobe pwr wire sep from antenna cable, just in case) - I can secure that upper conduit with 1 or more Adel clamps, starting above the inspection plate area and outboard (that area is open on the QB wings so I'd install the conduit before closing the wing). Seems like the pvc conduits should be out of the way of the aileron tube in inbd half of wing. Learn real skills for the real world - Apply online at http://www.ucol.ac.nz or call 0800 GO UCOL (0800 46 8265) or txt free 3388 for more information and make a good move to UCOL Universal College of Learning. Enrol with a public institute and be certain of your future ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:52 PM PST US From: Dj Merrill Subject: Re: Attn Gert : RV-List: unsolicited email from SportFlyingShop.com --> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill Gert wrote: > problem is some websites won't work without them. I'd say, the heck with > those websites.......... You got my vote... :-) -Dj ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:26 PM PST US From: Denis Walsh Subject: Re: RV-List: Low Fuel Pressure <6.0.1.1.0.20040521132943.032b6510@mail.brier.net> --> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh This sure sounds like Stew Bergner's problem, which was eventually traced to AFP boost pump assembly. Are you listening stewie?? I don't remember the fix but I think he disabled the purge system? On May 26, 2004, at 2:30 PM, Bob wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Bob > > Some of you really smart guys might be able to help me out on this > one. I > am getting low fuel pressures during cruise flight. Normal fuel > pressures > are 22-24 PSI without Aux boost pump and 26-27 PSI with boost pump on. > Now > without the aux boost pump I get about 10-11 PSI in cruise, I get 24 > PSI at > takeoff and landing. On the Sunday flight, when I had low pressures I > turned on the boost pump and pressures went back to the 24 PSI > range. Yesterday, after the PSI dropped, I turned on the boost pump, > pressure went back up to normal range, then slowly dropped back to > 10-11 > PSI. I turned the boost pump off and pressures dropped below 9 PSI. > > Engine is a IO 360 A1A (180 hp), Bendix fuel injection, and airflow > performance boost pump with assembly (fuel return line/check valve) and > fuel filter. All this stuff is plumbed according to airflow's > instructions. The system has been working fine for the first 150 > hours. Since the last annual, it has been acting funny. The only > things > that I did to the fuel system during the annual was to clean the fuel > filter and to clean the finger screen in the fuel servo. > > My mechanic said to fly and watch it, but I think now I need to do > something. Any ideas would be appreciated. > > Bob > RV6 NightFighter > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:12 PM PST US From: "Kathleen (rv7)" Subject: RV-List: And When the Holes Don't Line Up? --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" OK, I got lots of advice on this. I clecoed on the top skin -- at least enough to realize it wouldn't fit. Then I took Mike Holland's advice. He wrote, "What you need to do is remove the scrap aluminum tabs that attach the j-stringers to the curved bulkhead. They are pop-riveted this way for shipping. Once you do that you will note that the ends of the j's are longer than necessary. With this freed you will find that the skin holes align fine." He was right. Now I see that I got excited over nothing, well, it looked like something when the skin and the bulkhead didn't fit. Thanks Mike for the good advice... Kathleen www.rv7.us Subject: And When the Holes Don't Line Up? From: Kathleen (rv7) (Kathleen@rv7.us) --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" In inspecting my QB (7a) fuselage I found that (f706) cabin member has a noticeable bend in it. When it is forced straight, the metal (f652 upper cabin bulkhead) bows out and there isn't any reasonable way to make it all fit. OK, I don't know how to further explain, so there is a picture or two at http://www.rv7.us/daily040516.htm The bottom line is that the pre-punched holes don't line up. I've decided on a fix -- redrill the holes in the back side and move the nutplates. That won't show inside the cabin, but I'm not sure that the problem isn't with the rib (f-706). If it is, it would mean that the outer skin wouldn't fit. Any suggestions on how I can determine where the real culprit is? This is the way it came from Van's. Any ideas? Anyone else have this problem? Kathleen www.rv7.us