RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 05/31/04


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:38 AM - Re: Diode on starter relay (solenoid) (Larry Bowen)
     2. 08:34 AM - Slobovia Outernational Airport BBQ (Charlie England)
     3. 09:07 AM - Re: cowl mysterious pustules (Fred Stucklen)
     4. 09:13 AM - Home Wing Fly-In (BBreckenridge@att.net)
     5. 09:31 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 05/30/04 (Scott Diffenbaugh)
     6. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 05/30/04 (JhnstnIII@aol.com)
     7. 10:55 AM - P-51C Off Field Landing (Stuart B McCurdy)
     8. 11:15 AM - Re: P-51C Off Field Landing  (Sam Buchanan)
     9. 11:20 AM - Re: P-51C Off Field Landing 0.1 HTML_TITLE_EMPTY (Henry Hochberg)
    10. 11:52 AM - Re: Re: Bakersfield EAA BBQ (Laird Owens)
    11. 11:58 AM - Re: P-51C Off Field Landing  (Doug Rozendaal)
    12. 12:05 PM - Re: bearing material (Laird Owens)
    13. 12:07 PM - Re: P-51C Off Field Landing  (Cory Emberson)
    14. 03:54 PM - Re: Home Wing Fly-In (Jim Anglin)
    15. 07:26 PM - Facet fuel pump failure (Finn Lassen)
    16. 07:26 PM - [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
    17. 08:12 PM - Re: P-51C Off Field Landing  (Doug Rozendaal)
    18. 08:25 PM - Re: cowl mysterious pustules (WILLMINCEY@aol.com)
    19. 08:46 PM - Re: P-51C Off Field Landing  (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
    20. 08:52 PM - RV-8 canopy  (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
    21. 09:56 PM - Re: Home Wing Fly-In (RV6 Flyer)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:38:37 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Diode on starter relay (solenoid)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1086003353-510-210&bro wse=electrical&product=diodes - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Anglin [mailto:jlanglin44@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:51 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Diode on starter relay (solenoid) > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <jlanglin44@earthlink.net> > > I have my HR II all wired and my neighbor showed me a wiring > diagram of a starter solenoid with a diode between the S > terminal and ground. I have owned 3 planes that didn't have > this. What is the thinking behind this? I also have Van's > RV-8 wiring schematic that comes with the wiring kit and it > doesn't call out a diode. However, the diagram I saw with > the diode was from Van's. > > ????????? > > Jim > HR-II #153 flying soon............ > > > ============ > Matronics Forums. > ============ > ============ > ============ > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:34:22 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Slobovia Outernational Airport BBQ
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> Five days to BBQ DAY. Please plan to visit with us, eat some BBQ & talk airplanes. Location: Slobovia Outernational Airport (MS71) 10 mi north of Jackson MS on the Memphis sectional Approx. 4000' usable with decent approaches. Email me direct for a map if you are driving. (Don't trust the online mapping services for this one.) You are welcome to come for the day, or stay the weekend. Just throw a bedroll in the plane/car & we'll find you a place to sleep that's out of the heat. If you plan to overnight, please call us at 601-879-9596 or drop us an email at ceengland@bellsouth.net so we can get breakfast stuff lined up. If you've never done any a/c metal work, you can come & play with drills & rivet guns. Alternative engine discussions will probably revolve around the Mazda rotary. (Sorry 'bout that. :-) ) No formal seminars, but lots of knowledge is in the air when we have these events. Come on down! Charlie Slobovia Outernational Airport


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    Time: 09:07:52 AM PST US
    From: "Fred Stucklen" <wstucklen1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: cowl mysterious pustules
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Stucklen" <wstucklen1@cox.net> Richard, Are you sure it's not the paint on the cowl that is blistering? I had one small bubble on my RV-6A cowl after running the engine the first time. It turned out to be a small blister in the paint, probably due to some trapped air in the fiberglass. I found that pricking it with a needle and letting it breath solved the problem.. Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV Time: 11:08:59 AM PST US From: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds@macs.net> Subject: cowl mysterious pustules --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds@macs.net> After about 6 hours of test flights, my upper cowl has developed three mysterious pustules or blisters. My RV-6A cowl is about 5 years old and is of the "new" epoxy honeycomb construction. The inside was finished with a very thin coat of WEST epoxy and a high temperature white urethane enamel. The outside was finished with a urethane enamel. The cowl was finished last November in Norfolk, VA, and it has been stored in the hangar. The three blisters are are about 1 x 3, 1 x 2, and 1 x 2 , all about 1/8 high. There are corresponding blisters on the inside. The first two are located at the rear baffling line and the third one is located between cylinders 1-3 . It appears that the epoxy glass coating has lifted of the honeycomb but I have not pressed so hard as to pop them. The surface of the blister is "firm", not real soft and squeshy. Any thoughts??? Richard Reynolds, Norfolk, VA, RV-6A, N841RV, Flying, 7.8 hrs


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    Time: 09:13:23 AM PST US
    From: BBreckenridge@att.net
    Subject: Home Wing Fly-In
    --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net Anyone planning on showing up? http://www.edt.com/homewing/nwflyin.html Bruce Breckenridge RV-10 NOT flying, still crated


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    Time: 09:31:36 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
    Subject: RE: RV-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 05/30/04
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net> LerTime: 06:54:30 AM PST US From: JhnstnIII@aol.com Subject: RV-List: drawing 25 and firewall penetrations and 0-360 --> RV-List message posted by: JhnstnIII@aol.com Listers--Have checked the archives and can't find this one. Does anyone know if the firewall penetration locations on drawing 25 (RV-6) work for the 0-360 A1A? Thanks. --LeRoy Johnston, Columbus, OH, RV-6, firewall forward. Leroy- Personally, I would not drill any penetrations or mount anything on the inside or outside of the firewall (including stiffners, doublers, etc) until I had my engine and all accessories mounted ( including the electrical system). Fortunately we had not drilled too many holes and therefore were able to align things much better than the drawings showed. Scott Diffenbaugh diff@foothill.net


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    Time: 10:24:09 AM PST US
    From: JhnstnIII@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RE: RV-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 05/30/04
    --> RV-List message posted by: JhnstnIII@aol.com Thanks Scott.


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    Time: 10:55:34 AM PST US
    From: Stuart B McCurdy <sturdy@att.net>
    Subject: P-51C Off Field Landing
    0.1 HTML_TITLE_EMPTY BODY: HTML title contains no text --> RV-List message posted by: Stuart B McCurdy <sturdy@att.net> Anyone know anything about this? Was it Doug Rozendaal in Red Tail? How is he? Please respond directly to my email rather than to the List.. From AvFlash(31 May 04)....."A Commemorative Air Force P-51C made an emergency off-field landing during an air show near Red Wing, Minn., on Saturday. The pilot was airlifted to hospital but his condition wasn't known at our deadline, nor was the fate of the aircraft, one of just four flying..." Stu McCurdy


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    Time: 11:15:59 AM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: P-51C Off Field Landing
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Stuart B McCurdy wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Stuart B McCurdy <sturdy@att.net> > > Anyone know anything about this? Was it Doug Rozendaal in Red Tail? > How is he? Please respond directly to my email rather than to the List.. > > From AvFlash(31 May 04)....."A Commemorative Air Force P-51C made an > emergency off-field landing during an air show near Red Wing, Minn., on > Saturday. The pilot was airlifted to hospital but his condition wasn't > known at our deadline, nor was the fate of the aircraft, one of just > four flying..." > > Stu McCurdy It was not Doug. The pilot died yesterday. Sam Buchanan


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    Time: 11:20:20 AM PST US
    From: Henry Hochberg <aeroncadoc@comcast.net>
    BODY": HTML.title.contains.no.text@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: P-51C Off Field Landing 0.1 HTML_TITLE_EMPTY
    BODY: HTML title contains no text --> RV-List message posted by: Henry Hochberg <aeroncadoc@comcast.net> Pilot's name was Don Hinz, and he did not survive the crash. Henry H. Stuart B McCurdy wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Stuart B McCurdy <sturdy@att.net> > >Anyone know anything about this? Was it Doug Rozendaal in Red Tail? >How is he? Please respond directly to my email rather than to the List.. > > From AvFlash(31 May 04)....."A Commemorative Air Force P-51C made an >emergency off-field landing during an air show near Red Wing, Minn., on >Saturday. The pilot was airlifted to hospital but his condition wasn't >known at our deadline, nor was the fate of the aircraft, one of just >four flying..." > >Stu McCurdy > > > >


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    Time: 11:52:46 AM PST US
    From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
    Subject: Re: Bakersfield EAA BBQ
    --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> Glad to hear it. Quite a few of the SoCal bunch should show up then. Laird On May 30, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Russell Lamb wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Russell Lamb" > <lamb_russell@hotmail.com> > > Laird, > > It is just like the old days no cars, no motorcycles and no RC planes. > It will be just fly in and BBQ. > > Russell > > Tim, > > Are you doing this in conjunction with the car show and RC models > like you did awhile back or is it like the old days, just a fly-in? > > Laird > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 11:58:53 AM PST US
    From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
    Subject: Re: P-51C Off Field Landing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> It was not me. I was flying the B-25 landing and Don Hinz was flying the Redtail. He said he was losing the engine, Larry Lumpkin was on the ground in the Gunfighter and told Don to turn on the boost pump, I said get the prop back, Don said, that is all done. Larry said, Fly it to the ground Don, Fly it to the ground." That is exactly what he did. The airplane landed in a wings level low speed low angle condition, as survivable as it could be. He hit one tree which took off one wing, and then another which spun him around and the airplane came to rest on it right side with both wings severed. The Crash crews were there with in 4 minutes. Larry took off imeadiately to locate the wreckage incase the crash crews could not find it, and by the time he was overhead they were there. Gerry Beck came down this morning and went with the FAA to the wreckage. Early indications are that the V drive which powers the cam failed. Both cams would quit turning and there was nothing that Don could have done but fly it to the ground. He did that. Your thoughts and prayer for his family are appreciated. Don would never forgive us if we let this setback stop the Redtail project which he gave the last 10 years, and ultimately his life for. With a million bucks and 18 months we could be flying again. Don would want that. Wish us luck. You can learn more at www.redtail.org Tailwinds, Doug Rozendaal


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    Time: 12:05:04 PM PST US
    From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
    Subject: Re: bearing material
    --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> On May 28, 2004, at 11:42 PM, Wheeler North wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> > > Laird, > > big bummer, That's for sure..... > > Obviously don't run the engine at all, but its really unusual to see > bearing > wear this early in the life of a proven engine. RV's already grounded. Engine is out > > Was there a lot of metal? 2 or 3 flecks of bearing material per pleat in the filter > > Lycoming has a sb on the 100% replacement items during OH, but its a > long > list. The downside is things like cams and lifter bodies tend to go > after > TBO so now you are in the quandry of dealing with that in another 1000 > hours > again, given that they pass muster now. > > Its true that there are service limits and new limits, but the service > limits aren't that great, and on many parts you will not reach TBO by > using > them. > > I'm not convinced you yet know what caused the premature failure or > where it > is specifically. May never know > > One option is to pull the cylinders and see if its a con bearing. If > so, and > the metal load was very low, then your bottom end mains may be ok. In > this > case the OH is just a disassembly, clean, replace all bearings and > seals and > reassemble. > > The other thing that I don't yet know is was there any other > contaminants > such as silicon or steel. Bearings can be wiped by failing things like > an > oil pump, or a bad air filter letting a lot of dirt in. This latter > will > usually show up as poor compresion first though. > > Re shops, Lycon does seem to be the best in our sorta local area, to > which > I've never heard of a complaint. This is definately an area where you > get > what you pay for, but paying big bucks doesn't ensure that. Take the > time to > have a long conversation with them. If they know their stuff they will > grant > you that luxury. Most good pros know that this is a part of running a > good > business and maintaining a strong reputation. > > I would also add that you are more than competent to tear this down > your > self and explore it some more, and in fact, possibly repair it your > self. > I've built a lot of aircraft and automotive engines, and like anything > else, > taking your time, getting good info, borrowing the right tools when > you need > them, etc will produce a good job and you will gain from the > experience. > > And worse case, if you tear it down and all looks nasty, box it up and > mail > it off. But at least you will be confident at that point that it really > needed a full OH. Pop and thought about it but decided to just let Lycon do the work. It'll get delivered to them tomorrow. > > > I'd be happy to pop up and look at it once you got it apart, or > anytime for > that matter. > > W Thanks for the offer. Laird > > > Time: 11:52:32 AM PST US > From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> > Subject: RV-List: Questions For An Overhaul Shop > > --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> > > Hi all, > > So much for having TOO much fun in the Bahamas last month. > > After I got home from the trip, I changed the oil and found metal in > the oil filter. 950 TTSN, in 3 years. Lycoming confirmed it was > bearing material. %$#@!!! There were no symptoms during the last > flights, such as low oil pressure (75psi warm) or vibration. I had just > finished flying 45 hrs in the previous 2 weeks, with nothing in the > filter on the last oil change. > > At this point I'm not interested in doing the overhaul myself, even > assisted, so I'm looking for a shop to do an overhaul to get back > flying. > > Right now I've got some shops in my mind (including Aero Sport) but I'm > not quite sure how to approach them. > > How do I approach these companies to compare prices to get an "apples > to apples comparison. I'm sure they'd want to look at the engine > before making any quote. I can't send them all the engine. I want to > make sure I look around to get a warm fuzzy when I end up sending it > someone and parting with the next 5 years of my expendable income. > > Would asking them for a quote on their labor costs for a "standard" > (whatever that is) overhaul would be the right way to do it?. Or a > quote on an overhaul with all parts assumed good, like crankcase, > crank, cam, pistons and cylinders. (I know that there will be some > components that'll need replacing, but with a 1000hr motor since new, > there should be a lot of good parts, except what has been damaged from > the bearing giving up.) > > Any other ideas? > > Since this is the first experience with this kind of experience, any > suggestions would be welcomed. > > TIA, > Laird RV-6 > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 12:07:32 PM PST US
    From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: P-51C Off Field Landing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> Hello Doug, Thank you for posting this, and my thoughts and prayers go up for Don and his family. I read about this on another forum, and the unanimous opinion was that he was indeed a hero for avoiding the populated area. I will spread the word for the Redtail project. best, Cory > > It was not me. I was flying the B-25 landing and Don Hinz was flying the > Redtail. He said he was losing the engine, Larry Lumpkin was on the ground > in the Gunfighter and told Don to turn on the boost pump, I said get the > prop back, Don said, that is all > done. Larry said, Fly it to the ground Don, Fly it to the ground." > > That is exactly what he did. > > The airplane landed in a wings level low speed low angle condition, as > survivable as it could be. He hit one tree which took off one wing, and then > another which spun him around and the airplane came to rest on it right side > with both wings severed. > > The Crash crews were there with in 4 minutes. Larry took off imeadiately to > locate the wreckage incase the crash crews could not find it, and by the > time he was overhead they were there. > > Gerry Beck came down this morning and went with the FAA to the wreckage. > Early indications are that the V drive which powers the cam failed. Both > cams would quit turning and there was nothing that Don could have done but > fly it to the ground. He did that. > > Your thoughts and prayer for his family are appreciated. Don would never > forgive us if we let this setback stop the Redtail project which he gave the > last 10 years, and ultimately his life for. With a million bucks and 18 > months we could be flying again. Don would want that. Wish us luck. You can > learn more at www.redtail.org > > > Tailwinds, > Doug Rozendaal > >


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    Time: 03:54:46 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Anglin" <jlanglin44@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Home Wing Fly-In
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <jlanglin44@earthlink.net> I'll be there but then I only live 20 min away............. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBreckenridge@att.net> Subject: RV-List: Home Wing Fly-In > --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > > Anyone planning on showing up? > > http://www.edt.com/homewing/nwflyin.html > > Bruce Breckenridge > RV-10 NOT flying, still crated > >


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    Time: 07:26:01 PM PST US
    From: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
    Subject: Facet fuel pump failure
    --> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net> As usual before staring the engine, I turned on both my 40105 facet fuel pumps. However, for the first time in 460+ hours, one of them did not start. I checked voltage across red/black wires to the pump and had 12.7 volts. Ohm-ing across those two wires (power disconnected) I got some 27K ohms. Seems awfully high. Tapped the pump with a screwdriver and reconnected power and it started up. A couple of times in flight I have noticed momentary pressure drops. (I have a fuel filter before the pumps. No engine driven pump. Filter replaced in the last 25 hours.) Is it possible to have an intermittent failure mode in these pumps? Archive search only mentions complete failure (transistor blown). Appeared form one posting that one could take them apart and put back together again - or should I simple order a new pump? Finn


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    Time: 07:26:04 PM PST US
    Subject: [ Matt Dralle ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Subject: WWII Bombers at Livermore California - May 31 2004 http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/dralle@matronics.com.05.31.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 08:12:37 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
    Subject: Re: P-51C Off Field Landing
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> Thanks for you thoughts, what forum did you read about it? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: P-51C Off Field Landing > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> > > Hello Doug, > > Thank you for posting this, and my thoughts and prayers go up for Don and > his family. I read about this on another forum, and the unanimous opinion > was that he was indeed a hero for avoiding the populated area. > > I will spread the word for the Redtail project. > > best, Cory > > > > > It was not me. I was flying the B-25 landing and Don Hinz was flying the > > Redtail. He said he was losing the engine, Larry Lumpkin was on the ground > > in the Gunfighter and told Don to turn on the boost pump, I said get the > > prop back, Don said, that is all > > done. Larry said, Fly it to the ground Don, Fly it to the ground." > > > > That is exactly what he did. > > > > The airplane landed in a wings level low speed low angle condition, as > > survivable as it could be. He hit one tree which took off one wing, and > then > > another which spun him around and the airplane came to rest on it right > side > > with both wings severed. > > > > The Crash crews were there with in 4 minutes. Larry took off imeadiately > to > > locate the wreckage incase the crash crews could not find it, and by the > > time he was overhead they were there. > > > > Gerry Beck came down this morning and went with the FAA to the wreckage. > > Early indications are that the V drive which powers the cam failed. Both > > cams would quit turning and there was nothing that Don could have done but > > fly it to the ground. He did that. > > > > Your thoughts and prayer for his family are appreciated. Don would never > > forgive us if we let this setback stop the Redtail project which he gave > the > > last 10 years, and ultimately his life for. With a million bucks and 18 > > months we could be flying again. Don would want that. Wish us luck. You > can > > learn more at www.redtail.org > > > > > > Tailwinds, > > Doug Rozendaal > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:25:55 PM PST US
    From: WILLMINCEY@aol.com
    Subject: Re: cowl mysterious pustules
    --> RV-List message posted by: WILLMINCEY@aol.com Richard, Sorry to hear about your cowl bumps. I have the same problem. It started after some glass rework. The only way to stop the swelling was prick/drill a small hole through one side to relieve the pressure. It would be better if you could go into the cavity from the inside because it will continue to create a liquid drainage. This is what happens when the proper amount of hardener is not used in the layup. I made the mistake of a small hole on the outside. Its been draining/streaking the cowl every flight now for four years, believe it or not. You would thing that it would eventually disappear, but heat from the exhaust pipes causes flow during each flight. Not being a glassworker, I live with the wipedown after each flight. If you find an easy/quick fix I would like to know also. Thanks Will Mincey RV3 81TD


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    Time: 08:46:02 PM PST US
    Subject: P-51C Off Field Landing
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> I rec'd a direct e-mail from Stu McCurdy inquiring about it. He had no direct info. I surfed the web and found this: http://www.confederateairforce.org/news/ I informed him of this link as he/we were concerned it was you. then, later, I saw the rv-list activity around it. Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Rozendaal Subject: Re: RV-List: P-51C Off Field Landing --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> Thanks for you thoughts, what forum did you read about it? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: P-51C Off Field Landing > --> RV-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> > > Hello Doug, > > Thank you for posting this, and my thoughts and prayers go up for Don and > his family. I read about this on another forum, and the unanimous opinion > was that he was indeed a hero for avoiding the populated area. > > I will spread the word for the Redtail project. > > best, Cory > > > > > It was not me. I was flying the B-25 landing and Don Hinz was flying the > > Redtail. He said he was losing the engine, Larry Lumpkin was on the ground > > in the Gunfighter and told Don to turn on the boost pump, I said get the > > prop back, Don said, that is all > > done. Larry said, Fly it to the ground Don, Fly it to the ground." > > > > That is exactly what he did. > > > > The airplane landed in a wings level low speed low angle condition, as > > survivable as it could be. He hit one tree which took off one wing, and > then > > another which spun him around and the airplane came to rest on it right > side > > with both wings severed. > > > > The Crash crews were there with in 4 minutes. Larry took off imeadiately > to > > locate the wreckage incase the crash crews could not find it, and by the > > time he was overhead they were there. > > > > Gerry Beck came down this morning and went with the FAA to the wreckage. > > Early indications are that the V drive which powers the cam failed. Both > > cams would quit turning and there was nothing that Don could have done but > > fly it to the ground. He did that. > > > > Your thoughts and prayer for his family are appreciated. Don would never > > forgive us if we let this setback stop the Redtail project which he gave > the > > last 10 years, and ultimately his life for. With a million bucks and 18 > > months we could be flying again. Don would want that. Wish us luck. You > can > > learn more at www.redtail.org > > > > > > Tailwinds, > > Doug Rozendaal > > > > > > == == == ==


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    Time: 08:52:58 PM PST US
    Subject: RV-8 canopy
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> I recall recently seeing a canopy someone had done some neat work on it. Perhaps just the fwd windshield, or perhaps the entire canopy was special. But it had a neat shape. Slick, lowered I believe. Could someone reply back with a link, info, or pictures? Thanks Mike Stewart Super 8 Working on the wet wing smoke tank Do not archive


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    Time: 09:56:27 PM PST US
    From: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Home Wing Fly-In
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com> It is a fly-in that I enjoy attending and have made several of the past ones. Unfortunately it is the same weekend as Golden West so I will not be able to attend as I will be taking part at Golden West. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 1,500 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBreckenridge@att.net> Subject: RV-List: Home Wing Fly-In > --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net > > Anyone planning on showing up? > > http://www.edt.com/homewing/nwflyin.html > > Bruce Breckenridge > RV-10 NOT flying, still crated > Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/




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