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1. 04:12 AM - Re: Duel electric fuel pumps (RVer273sb@aol.com)
2. 05:49 AM - Air Cleco Tool on Ebay ()
3. 06:11 AM - Modifying RV6 Chin Scoop ()
4. 07:24 AM - 7A Slider Question (tacaruth@ralcorp.com)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: 7A Slider Question (Mike Thompson)
6. 09:52 AM - Re: Electric Fuel Pump (Scott.Fink@microchip.com)
7. 11:11 AM - Pulley Groove Dimensions (DAVID REEL)
8. 01:36 PM - crankshaft (Wheeler North)
9. 02:29 PM - Rebel's Bluff FlyIn June 5th--Yeah! (Lwfeatherston@aol.com)
10. 03:02 PM - Re: Pulley Groove Dimensions (Tedd McHenry)
11. 03:08 PM - Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st (JOHN STARN)
12. 03:17 PM - New England Wing RVator Fly-In (Bruce Meacham)
13. 05:20 PM - Big Momma & Landings (Austin)
14. 05:39 PM - Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st (JOHN STARN)
15. 07:06 PM - exhaust smell during descent (Dave Ford)
16. 07:18 PM - Re: exhaust smell during descent (Alex Peterson)
17. 07:25 PM - Re: exhaust smell during descent (Randy Compton)
18. 07:52 PM - Location of Fuel Flow Transducer (PeterHunt1@aol.com)
19. 08:28 PM - Re: Big Momma & Landings (Scott Vanartsdalen)
20. 09:42 PM - Re: Big Momma & Landings (Terry Watson)
21. 09:55 PM - Re: Location of Fuel Flow Transducer (Vanremog@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Duel electric fuel pumps |
--> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
I just installed an accessory case machined for the pump
on my D2J. I remember there was also a place that could
machine the D2J case for the pump. I wanted the redundancy
of Mech/ Elec pumps.
Stewart Rv4 950 hrs
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| Subject: | Air Cleco Tool on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
FYI...Pneumatic cleco tool for sale on Ebay ih anyone is interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2480315506&category=26438&sspagename=WDVW
Item number 2480315506 if the link doesn't work.
Do Not Archive
Thanks,
Scott
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| Subject: | Modifying RV6 Chin Scoop |
--> RV-List message posted by: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com>
Shirley, it is time for you to discover the wonders of two-part expanding foam.
With ex-foam, all things are possible. Go to your local fiberglass boat supply
house and ask for it. You mix it 50/50 and hear me now and believe me later,
DO NOT GET IT ON YOUR SKIN. It will hang on for a month. Just hack away at the
scoop as you see fit and get it clecoed into place some how. Just put it where
ya want it and dont make it pretty. Hack away any thing that gets in the way
of an eventual smooth transition between surfaces. Pay close attention that
each side is semetrical.
When you get it all fixed liek ya like it, mix up a little cup of ex-foam and stir
it up, let it start to bubble before you put it on and then just pour it into
the voids. It will rise up like bread and will sand like stale bread. 80 grit
sandpaper will shape it with ease. Just keep putting it where ya need to make
a nice transition. Cut away anything that gets in the way (flanges that don't
fit). Keep at it until you have a nice smooth scoop. Then lay two layers of
glass over what you have, light glass is fine. Bring the two layers up on the
edges of the outer cowl a couple of inches. Let that dry over night. You have
just made the outer shell of your new scoop. I like to let the outer shell
kick for about an hour and then I come back over it when its tacky and slather
it with microbaloons so everything comes from the same layup.
Now that its dry, flip it over. You have a lot of extra crud you don't need inside.
Take your die grinder and sand all the unneeded crap away, a hack saw blade
will rip out all the exp-foam quickly. Make it transition nice and smooth to
the new shell from inside. Sand everything inside and lay up two more layers
of glass on the inside. Then just make it all pretty. BTW, for sanding inside
the concave surfaces of the scoop, pvc T's are great. Go get one of each size
for round sanding blocks.
The actual process is easier than reading this long e-mail.
Eric Henson
Time: 06:09:19 AM PST US
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Modifying RV6 chin scoop
--> RV-List message posted by:
I have an RV6 with a Superior O-360 carby engine in it
and the FAB 0-360 S type cowl air box on it.
I have just trimmed and then tried to fit my O-320
cowl air chin scoop on (bought some years ago as part
of the quick build kit when I was planning on a
smaller engine) and it is too small vertically to
accept the air box.
Does anyone have any ideas about splitting the chin
scoop and then fibreglassing it to a new shape, as I
live in Western Australia and the freight back to Vans
and the fact that it is already trimmed to shape make
it unreturnable, and very expensive to buy a new
correct O-360 type.
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| Subject: | 7A Slider Question |
06/03/2004 09:23:08 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: tacaruth@ralcorp.com
HI All,
I have a question for the group about the slider canopy. How far does the
center cover extend on the rear of the canopy? This is the 1" wide
aluminum strip that covers the center tube and plexiglass down the top
middle of the canopy. Will this be covered by the rear skirts or will the
skirts but up to it? Does the center rail "doghouse (???)" attach on top
of this junction? The plans are don't show the relationship of these
pieces. I'm hoping someone who has done this can give some advise.
Thanks in advance,
Tom, RV-7A, working slowly on the canopy
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| Subject: | Re: 7A Slider Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mike Thompson <grobdriver@yahoo.com>
tacaruth@ralcorp.com wrote:
How far does the
center cover extend on the rear of the canopy? This is the 1" wide
aluminum strip that covers the center tube and plexiglass down the top
middle of the canopy.
All the way to the rear skirt.
Will this be covered by the rear skirts or will the skirts but up to it?
The rear skirts overlap, butt the center strip to the leading edge of the skirts.
Does the center rail "doghouse (???)" attach on top
of this junction?
Yes. The cover should mount on top of the skirts, up to the leading edge of the
skirts (just to the rear of the center strip), and then back however far it
needs to go.
There are a lot of web sites out there that will show you this detail. And don't
limit yourself to the -7 when you're looking. -6 sliders are pretty much the
same in this regard.
- Mike
Michael E. Thompson (Grobdriver@yahoo.com)
Austin, TX, USA
RV-6 N140RV, FLYING!
Ex-AX1 Sub Hunter, P-3 (B/B-TACMOD/C) Orion Aircrew,
PP-G,ASEL, Motorglider Driver and Unlimited Air Race Nut!
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Fuel Pump |
06/03/2004 09:50:45 AM,
Serialize complete at 06/03/2004 09:50:45 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott.Fink@Microchip.com
Mark/Matt,
It should be noted, however, that on my Cherokee the electric fuel pump
and gascolator are isolated from the rest of the engine compartment with
baffling and have a blast tube for cooling of the "box" they are in.
Scott
<czechsix@juno.com>
Sent by: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
06/02/2004 10:24 AM
Please respond to rv-list
To: rv-list@matronics.com
cc:
Subject: RV-List: Electric Fuel Pump
--> RV-List message posted by: <czechsix@juno.com>
Matt,
There are tons of certified spam cans flying with a Facet fuel pump on the
engine side of the firewall....all the Piper Warrior/Archer series that
I've worked on are this way. I don't think they really get that hot...as
long as you aren't having vapor lock problems, I wouldn't worry about
it...the electric boost pump is redundant to the mech pump anyway, so a
failure isn't going to be a big deal.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D with Facet 'beer can' pump in the wing root, along with the
gascolator, where it ain't gonna vapor lock...
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
Subject: RV-List: Electric Fuel Pump
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
My electric fuel pump "Facet?" is on the engine side of the firewall. Been
there for 325 hours. One on my friends said the firewall side is too hot
and may cause the pump to not work when you need it. What do you fuel
system wizards say? O360 with mechanical pump on engine.
Thanks
Matthew M. Jurotich
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| Subject: | Pulley Groove Dimensions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
To machine a pulley for my alternator, I need the dimensions/tolerances for pulley
groove 10A/11A or .380/.440" which is found in copyrighted SAE standard J636
which I can buy for $60. Before I do that, I thought I'd ask if anyone on
the list had that information, eg.
Groove width at top
Groove depth
Groove included angle of sides
Dave Reel - RV8A
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"'owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com '"@matronics.com
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Is this the same thing as a counter-balanced crank? I would assume not. What
is
the difference?
Fred,
A dymanically balanced crankshaft is one that was balanced by spinning it
and measuring the out-of-balanced acceleration and then correcting this by
mass addition or removal.
A crankshaft with counter balancers is a misnomer. These are actually
pendulums designed to interfere with torsional vibrations which can
harmonically resonate the crankshaft at higher load/rpm settings.
The simplified version is, order defines which resonant level you are
shooting for to alter. An example of this is when you run a prop or spoked
wheel next to a strobe, like a house light strobing at 60hz, the spokes will
appear to line up and stop at various RPMs, ie they are "resonating" with
the 60hz light at different levels or multiples of 60hz.
The harmonic resononce is not linear in terms of RPM like it is with the
spokes and light, but it does have levels where the torsional vibration will
time in a frequency that causes the metal to become more flexible. This
doesn't mean much unless there's enough load for the extra flexibility to
suddenly allow the crank to actually flex and twist destructively.
So a crank with a specific prop, and possibly in a specific aircraft, will
hit these resonant ranges at various RPMs, but the only ones that matter are
the ones at higher load settings, say above 50% power.
So first order may be at 1500, second at 1800, third at 2100, fourth at 2500
and fifth at 2900 and so on. If redline is 2700, and 50% power is at 2200
RPM than the only one that matters in terms of being a resonant frequency,
and having enough load to actually do damage due to the extra flexibility is
the fourth order one at 2500. (Note; I've made up these numbers for the
purpose of illustrating this)
The other thing to be aware of is that the resonant flexibility they are
trying to dampen, and it can be more then one, may not be about preventing
crankshaft damage. They might have found a whipping problem in the accessory
section or somewhere else to which they are addressing.
I always get Order and Mode mixed up, but I believe Mode is the number of
twists back and forth that will exist in the shaft at a specific order. In
other words if you whip a rope slowly it will make a sine wave, if speed
this up it will eventually make two sine waves, then three, and on and on.
The same thing is true of I start twisting a rubber band with a weight on
one end.
Since a six cylinder engine may have two on either end of the power stroke
and two on either end of the compression stroke one can see why they tend to
have more complex twisting loads. And therefore more often have balancers.
W
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| Subject: | Rebel's Bluff FlyIn June 5th--Yeah! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
DO NOT ARCHIVE! Hey Everybody, Don't forget the FlyIn at Rebel's Bluff near
Mt Vernon, Missouri, on Saturday June 5th. And I ask you, "where can you get
AVgas 100LL for $2.25?????? Rebel's Bluff is a beautiful 2200' x75' sod strip
just 2 miles NNE of Mt Vernon Municipal Airport (2MO) and is N37 06.1 and W93
52.2. The Boy Scouts will prepare a terrific lunch as their fund raiser for
the year. We hope to have some wonderful airplanes on display, and "Airgasm"
(my Harmon Rocket II) will be there in her new paint scheme. Hope to see you
about 10:00AM till 5:PM, and dinner if you can spend the night. Please RSVP
for dinner, as we are getting quite full. Camping, and the local Super 8 for
$50 are also available. See ya, Les Featherston 417-425-3595c or 417-466-4663h
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
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| Subject: | Re: Pulley Groove Dimensions |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
Dave:
That's probably the same information that's in Machinery's Handbook. Caveat:
the handbook doesn't reference J636, so I can't be certain this is the correct
data.
0.380
-----
effective groove width 0.380"
minimum groove depth 0.433"
0.440
-----
effective groove width 0.441"
minimum groove depth 0.512"
The included angle is 36 degrees for both.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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"rocket-list" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Just a short note. EAA #768 after meeting BBQ and F-86H wash. Hot dogs and
burgers plus. Donation bucket. Airshow at Hemet and Bakersfield BBQ should
mean a smaller crowd than last time. (26 RV's, 2 HRII, 4 short wing Pipers
plus 8 others). Everyone welcome. Meeting at 9:00am BBQ to follow. KABONG
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com>
Subject: Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st
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| Subject: | New England Wing RVator Fly-In |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Meacham" <bruce_meacham@hotmail.com>
Announcing - - for those who do not already know ...
The EAA106 chapter of Greater Boston
www.EAA106.org
is hosting a RV Fly-In at LWM
Saturday June 12
which is the 3rd annual RV Fly-In by the
New England Van's Air Force Wing
www.nevaf.com
- including 3 seminars -
RAIN DATE: Sat, June 19th
To be held at the EAA106 hanger at LWM - -
Lawrence Municipal airport - - just northwest of Boston, MA
Schedule for the day
09:00 - RV Static Display aircraft requested to arrive by this time
09:30 - RV Active Area aircraft and non-RV aircraft requested to arrive by
this time
09:00-10:00 Gate manned for those driving in
10:00 - SEMINAR - Formation Flying: Stu McCurdy of Formation Flight International
(FFI)
11:30-NOON Gate manned again for those driving in
11:30 - LUNCH - socializing / look at aircraft
13:00 - SEMINAR - Preparing for your first flight: Joe Gauthier
14:30 - SEMINAR - Basic metalworking workshop: Bob DiMeo
16:00 - Aircraft Depart
Fly or Drive - but PLEASE send fill out and send me the RSVP form (one for each
aircraft or carload) along with guest info. We need to get counts of people,
how many staying during lunch cookout, planes (including non-RVs which we will
need to park in a separate area), and especially how many in your party want
to purchase the seminar handouts - the seminars are free, but the materials must
be pre-printed and cost $10 for a set covering all 3 seminars).
Go to the www.EAA106.org website for our RSVP form (we're not sophisticated enough this year for a fancy web form - it's a Word document with questions in a table - next year we'll try to do it better) as well as links to maps for driving (after you are on Rt-495 northbound just north of I-93), airport diagram for locating the EAA106 hanger, frequencies, and hanger area diagram showing 3 aircraft parking areas - - RV static display, RV active area, and non-RV aircraft.
Send me an e-mail if you cannot grab the RSVP form from the website and I'll e-mail
it to you. Please fill out and send me the RSVP along with an aircraft picture
and caption for EACH person in your party (see RSVP form page 1 for explanation
and caption examples) - send ASAP.
If you think you are probably going to come but are not 100% sure, I'd rather have
your info and spend time THIS week making your badge then not use it if you
cancel than have you send me your info for the first time next week which leaves
me little time to make badges. The event badges are not an "ID" per se,
but rather a conversation stimulator with your name, your aviation affiliations,
and most importantly, a picture of an aircraft that you either a) have built,
b) are building (or one like it), own (such as certified), or one you'd like
to build or own (category of many pilots and aviation enthusiasts without wings
at present).
So far (as I write this mail on Thurs, 6/3, at 6 pm), we have 13 RVs confirmed
and another 3 RVs not fully confirmed, 8 non-RV aircraft, and 84 people so far...
but if you are coming, PLEASE send me the RSVP form ASAP so I can add you
to the list and make your badge now. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Big Momma & Landings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <austin@uniserve.com>
Hi guys,
Back when I was abuilding, I got precious little to none rides
in an RV, and wondered why this was so....
What I heard over and over was...." well, ya know, these RVs are sure a lot different
when you have another rider along...makes a big difference and ya can sure
feel it.."......B.S...Bravo Sierra..
I can't say I concur with that, but I will say that today made me realize
what changes CAN be noticed when you have full tanks and a full load...and a
very hot day...
Took Momma along for a ride to meet Daughter for lunch and it was so hot my shirt
stuck to my back all day....
Now Momma normally does not care all that much for " Them little arioplanes "
preferring Boeing type...but away we went and with the two landings I had to make,
while using full flap and approach at 85 and bleeding off, I noticed to my
great surprise that I altered trim very little ......Compared to what I use
when flying alone., I normally crank in a lot., but not today...Momma is a bit
big....bigger than me....and I guess that aids the trim on a hot day with full
fuel....
Landing speeds were the same...just seemed to be what the airplane wanted and I
got compliments on the landings for which I would also like to give credit to
my new tires....no shimmy.........
I ain't no expert on performance figures and all....me being a pilot
and not an accountant, but I still think the RV handles and feels much the same
with two up, all things considered, and jist think them old dinks was stingy
in not giving a rabid, budding builder a ride now and then....... jist to keep
the blood up and fire going on the rivet gun...I know I am happy to spread the
RV gospel anytime a newbie wants inspiration.....
Also, I give everlasting thanks to one real gentleman who gave me a full hour of
touch and goes without once touching the stick and this, after I had been off
for 4 years.....now there is faith...
I will always think of that..
Another note....I sure do like carrier landings and do believe that if you have
power..use it....but deadstick landing practice has told me that you must be
in close and know your sink rate to get in where you want to put down 'cause these
sure ain't Cessnas.
Ya gotta love these wonderful little hotrods.
And as us two old grey haired folk climbed in and buckled up, it brought a smile
when 4 people strolled by smiling, looked at us and the RV and gave " thumbs
up "....." lookin' good "
Back to the old armchair and a nap, logbook fallen on the floor, TV talking to
nobody, smell of gas on my hands turning the cat off, and dreaming of cloud chasing....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
do not archive
Anonymous
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"rocket-list" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Sorry about that... EAA #768 is based at Apple Valley Airport, APV. Apple
Valley, Calif. 45 miles north of San Bernardino and about 45 miles east of
Mojave Space Port. The date is Saturday, June 5th 2004 right after the
9:00am EAA meeting. Do Not Archive. KABONG 8*) (GBA & GWB)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Blaylock" <wblaylock@san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st
> Where is EAA 768 and when- what date- is the BBQ?
> Bill Blaylock RV-8 N60B KSEE
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> To: <SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com>; "rv-list" <rv-list@matronics.com>;
> "rocket-list" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st
>
>
> > Just a short note. EAA #768 after meeting BBQ and F-86H wash. Hot dogs
and
> > burgers plus. Donation bucket. Airshow at Hemet and Bakersfield BBQ
should
> > mean a smaller crowd than last time. (26 RV's, 2 HRII, 4 short wing
Pipers
> > plus 8 others). Everyone welcome. Meeting at 9:00am BBQ to follow.
> KABONG
> > Do Not Archive
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Laird Owens" <owens@aerovironment.com>
> > To: <SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Mojave on the 21st
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| Subject: | exhaust smell during descent |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ford" <dford@michweb.net>
I have recently been noticing an exhaust type smell during power reduced decents
in my RV6. Was just wondering if anyone has experienced that. Nothing has
changed since I started flying in January other than warmer weather coming to
Michigan now. I'm not quite sure where it would be coming in except maybe somewhere
in the tail/tailwheel area? The only other place might be the .030 holes
I drilled for the gear leg fairing hinge pins?
Dave Ford
RV6
80 hrs
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| Subject: | exhaust smell during descent |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> I have recently been noticing an exhaust type smell during
> power reduced decents in my RV6. Was just wondering if
> anyone has experienced that. Nothing has changed since I
> started flying in January other than warmer weather coming to
> Michigan now. I'm not quite sure where it would be coming in
> except maybe somewhere in the tail/tailwheel area? The only
> other place might be the .030 holes I drilled for the gear
> leg fairing hinge pins?
>
> Dave Ford
> RV6
> 80 hrs
Dave, I have noticed the same thing when at higher angles of attack, 70
knots for example. Additionally, at those speeds normally one has the
mixture full rich in preparation for landing, making things worse. This
time of the year, in between using the heaters and using the ventilation
system is when one will notice this (no fresh air to push out other
incoming leaks).
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 273 hours
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust smell during descent |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ford" <dford@michweb.net>
Subject: RV-List: exhaust smell during descent
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Ford" <dford@michweb.net>
>
> I have recently been noticing an exhaust type smell during power reduced
decents in my RV6. Was just wondering if anyone has experienced that.
Nothing has changed since I started flying in January other than warmer
weather coming to Michigan now. I'm not quite sure where it would be coming
in except maybe somewhere in the tail/tailwheel area? The only other place
might be the .030 holes I drilled for the gear leg fairing hinge pins?
>
> Dave Ford
> RV6
> 80 hrs
I also get this smell in my -3. Like you, I think it is coming in through
the tail area.
I'm just wondering why I only get the fumes when I'm reducing power in a
descent, usually when descending and slowing to enter the landing pattern,
and not at any other time, i.e.. takeoff, cruise, acro. For what its worth,
the smell/fumes do not affect my carbon monoxide detector.
Randy Compton
RV-3
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| Subject: | Location of Fuel Flow Transducer |
--> RV-List message posted by: PeterHunt1@aol.com
I need a little help understanding where to place my fuel flow transducer.
The manufacturer suggested suspending it somewhere in the flexible hose running
between the engine fuel pump and carburetor, and at the same level as the
carburetor. This is awkward in my situation (O-360-A1A) and would involve
several additional fittings (and perhaps failure points). I would like to place
my
fuel flow transducer just after my electric fuel pump (inside the cockpit and
before the gascolator). Is there an argument against doing this? Is there
some pulsing issue? What have others done that has worked well? The
manufacturer discourages fastening the fuel flow transducer outlet directly to
the
carburetor which is another option for me, but I can't get from them a reason why.
What I want to understand is where to place my fuel flow transducer and, most
specifically, why.
Pete
Clearwater, FL
RV-6, completing engine instillation
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| Subject: | Re: Big Momma & Landings |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
That weren't no RV-4 were it? 'Cause with big mama in the back of a light-nosed
4 you won't get the tailwheel off the ground!
I've always enjoyed the stories.
Austin <austin@uniserve.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Austin"
Hi guys,
Back when I was abuilding, I got precious little to none rides in an RV, and wondered
why this was so....
What I heard over and over was...." well, ya know, these RVs are sure a lot different
when you have another rider along...makes a big difference and ya can sure
feel it.."......B.S...Bravo Sierra..
I can't say I concur with that, but I will say that today made me realize what
changes CAN be noticed when you have full tanks and a full load...and a very hot
day...
Took Momma along for a ride to meet Daughter for lunch and it was so hot my shirt
stuck to my back all day....
Now Momma normally does not care all that much for " Them little arioplanes " preferring
Boeing type...but away we went and with the two landings I had to make,
while using full flap and approach at 85 and bleeding off, I noticed to my
great surprise that I altered trim very little ......Compared to what I use when
flying alone., I normally crank in a lot., but not today...Momma is a bit
big....bigger than me....and I guess that aids the trim on a hot day with full
fuel....
Landing speeds were the same...just seemed to be what the airplane wanted and I
got compliments on the landings for which I would also like to give credit to
my new tires....no shimmy.........
I ain't no expert on performance figures and all....me being a pilot and not an
accountant, but I still think the RV handles and feels much the same with two
up, all things considered, and jist think them old dinks was stingy in not giving
a rabid, budding builder a ride now and then....... jist to keep the blood
up and fire going on the rivet gun...I know I am happy to spread the RV gospel
anytime a newbie wants inspiration.....
Also, I give everlasting thanks to one real gentleman who gave me a full hour of
touch and goes without once touching the stick and this, after I had been off
for 4 years.....now there is faith...
I will always think of that..
Another note....I sure do like carrier landings and do believe that if you have
power..use it....but deadstick landing practice has told me that you must be
in close and know your sink rate to get in where you want to put down 'cause these
sure ain't Cessnas.
Ya gotta love these wonderful little hotrods.
And as us two old grey haired folk climbed in and buckled up, it brought a smile
when 4 people strolled by smiling, looked at us and the RV and gave " thumbs
up "....." lookin' good "
Back to the old armchair and a nap, logbook fallen on the floor, TV talking to
nobody, smell of gas on my hands turning the cat off, and dreaming of cloud chasing....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
do not archive
Anonymous
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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| Subject: | Big Momma & Landings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Ok, I guess it's my turn to quote Austin without that archive-no-no stuff:
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Austin
Subject: RV-List: Big Momma & Landings
--> RV-List message posted by: "Austin" <austin@uniserve.com>
Hi guys,
Back when I was abuilding, I got precious little to none
rides in an RV, and wondered why this was so....
What I heard over and over was...." well, ya know, these RVs are sure a lot
different when you have another rider along...makes a big difference and ya
can sure feel it.."......B.S...Bravo Sierra..
I can't say I concur with that, but I will say that today made me
realize what changes CAN be noticed when you have full tanks and a full
load...and a very hot day...
Took Momma along for a ride to meet Daughter for lunch and it was so hot my
shirt stuck to my back all day....
Now Momma normally does not care all that much for " Them little arioplanes
" preferring Boeing type...but away we went and with the two landings I had
to make, while using full flap and approach at 85 and bleeding off, I
noticed to my great surprise that I altered trim very little ......Compared
to what I use when flying alone., I normally crank in a lot., but not
today...Momma is a bit big....bigger than me....and I guess that aids the
trim on a hot day with full fuel....
Landing speeds were the same...just seemed to be what the airplane wanted
and I got compliments on the landings for which I would also like to give
credit to my new tires....no shimmy.........
I ain't no expert on performance figures and all....me being a
pilot and not an accountant, but I still think the RV handles and feels much
the same with two up, all things considered, and jist think them old dinks
was stingy in not giving a rabid, budding builder a ride now and then.......
jist to keep the blood up and fire going on the rivet gun...I know I am
happy to spread the RV gospel anytime a newbie wants inspiration.....
Also, I give everlasting thanks to one real gentleman who gave me a full
hour of touch and goes without once touching the stick and this, after I
had been off for 4 years.....now there is faith...
I will always think of that..
Another note....I sure do like carrier landings and do believe that if you
have power..use it....but deadstick landing practice has told me that you
must be in close and know your sink rate to get in where you want to put
down 'cause these sure ain't Cessnas.
Ya gotta love these wonderful little hotrods.
And as us two old grey haired folk climbed in and buckled up, it brought a
smile when 4 people strolled by smiling, looked at us and the RV and gave "
thumbs up "....." lookin' good "
Back to the old armchair and a nap, logbook fallen on the floor, TV talking
to nobody, smell of gas on my hands turning the cat off, and dreaming of
cloud chasing....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: Location of Fuel Flow Transducer |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 6/3/2004 7:53:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
PeterHunt1@aol.com writes:
I need a little help understanding where to place my fuel flow transducer.
The manufacturer suggested suspending it somewhere in the flexible hose
running
between the engine fuel pump and carburetor, and at the same level as the
carburetor. This is awkward in my situation (O-360-A1A) and would involve
several additional fittings (and perhaps failure points). I would like to
place my
fuel flow transducer just after my electric fuel pump (inside the cockpit
and
before the gascolator). Is there an argument against doing this? Is there
some pulsing issue? What have others done that has worked well?
Try to minimize turbulence in the line just upstream of your transducer
inlet (don't make single 90 degree turns close by, instead use a 45 degree
fitting on the hose end and then another 45 degree fitting on the transducer if
you
have to to make the turn). The transducer for my VM1000 is mounted to the
firewall using the long screw mounts that come installed on it and has worked
fine for me. Hard line runs from the interior wall mounted boost pump, thru
the f/w, to the f/w mounted gascolator, then flex line to the mech fuel pump
inlet, flex line to the transducer inlet and flex line to the carb inlet.
Pressure tap comes off the mech pump outlet fitting and primer line comes off
top of gascolator to f/w mounted solenoid, then to splitter and then to union
cones at three cylinders.
Pay particular attention to the orientation as described in the instructions
though. IIRC there is a particular portion of the transducer that must face
up to foster best flow.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 701 hrs; last trip, Sedona)
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