RV-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/05/04


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:37 AM - Hog Air "T" shirts (Brett)
     2. 04:05 AM - Re: Flying RV's in Ontario (Ted Gauthier)
     3. 05:21 AM - Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A (Smcm75@aol.com)
     4. 05:51 AM - Re: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem! (Jack Lockamy)
     5. 06:20 AM - Re: QB delivery logistics (Dwight Frye)
     6. 08:06 AM - Re: IT'S ALIVE! (Evan and Megan Johnson)
     7. 08:07 AM - Boone Annual RV Day (Ralph Koger)
     8. 08:42 AM - Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A (Gert)
     9. 09:04 AM - Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A (Dr. Leathers)
    10. 10:16 AM - Re: QB delivery logistics (Alan Erickson)
    11. 11:35 AM - Re: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem! (Jeff Dowling)
    12. 11:37 AM - Re: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem! (Jeff Dowling)
    13. 11:41 AM - Re: Boone Annual RV Day (Richard V. Reynolds)
    14. 12:48 PM - Re: QB delivery logistics (Thomas E Doran)
    15. 01:25 PM - Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A (Jeff Point)
    16. 02:13 PM - Expired Sectionals (JNice51355@aol.com)
    17. 02:14 PM - Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A (LarryRobertHelming)
    18. 03:12 PM - Re: Boone Annual RV Day (Ralph Koger)
    19. 04:42 PM - Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A (Rick Galati)
    20. 09:35 PM - Transponder not working (Steve & Denise)
    21. 10:12 PM - For Sale: RV-7A QB kit + completed empennage (Dan Checkoway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:37:17 AM PST US
    From: "Brett " <brett@hog-air.com>
    Subject: Hog Air "T" shirts
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Brett " <brett@hog-air.com> Hog Air "T" shirts are now available. We have had alot of people asking for them. So I thought I'd let you guys know. You can see them here http://www.hog-air.com/Shirts.htm Thanks Brett Ray www.hog-air.com


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    Time: 04:05:36 AM PST US
    From: "Ted Gauthier" <TGauthier@comcast.net>
    Subject: Flying RV's in Ontario
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ted Gauthier" <TGauthier@comcast.net> In the last 60 days, Terry Kohler has flown his RV-9 and I have flown my RV6 into Ontario, (twice). We met some great people and saw some good looking RV's. Just a note: This week I received a bill from Nav Canada for "charges for air navigation", the amount $CAN 17.39. I called 1-800-876-4693 and explained to them that my aircraft weight was under 617kg (1,360 pounds). They told me that I was exempt and I was not required to pay the bill. The lady I spoke with at Nav Canada was polite and very helpful. All they asked was that I fax them my documented weight. Ted Gauthier, RV-6 140 hours Pontiac, Michigan USA -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Are Barstad Subject: RV-List: Flying RV's in Ontario --> RV-List message posted by: "Are Barstad" <are_barstad@norlogic.com> DO NOT ARCHIVE Here's the latest list of flying RV's in Ontario. If you go to our website www.ontariorvators.org, you will see the details. Click on the 'Member's RV's' link. This is up to date with Transport Canada but if anyone see anything that should be changed, please let me know. Flying RV's in Ontario RV-3 - 4 RV-4 - 12 RV-6 - 18 RV-6A - 13 RV-8 - 4 TOTAL 51 Are RV-8 wings VAF-OW Van's Air Force - Ontario Wing www.ontariorvators.org --- == == == ==


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    Time: 05:21:14 AM PST US
    From: Smcm75@aol.com
    Subject: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A
    --> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com Just wanted to know if any of you guys out there have purchased RV interiors from Abby Erdmann? The specific questions that I have are: 1. How is the workmanship? 2. Are ALL the sidewall fabric and carpet pieces either pre cut or at least marked out with a template or are you provided with rolls of fabric and carpet unmarked? 3. Are detailed installation instructions provided? Thanks for your imput> Scott Morrow RV-6A 95% Almost there


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    Time: 05:51:42 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net> The rear skirts on my -7A slider canopy are TWO separate parts (LT and RT). Van's did a pretty good job of laying these two parts out on a small sheet of AL (you have to cut both of them out of blank material which has the patterns traced onto them from the factory). Jack Lockamy Camarillo, CA


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    Time: 06:20:42 AM PST US
    From: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
    Subject: Re: QB delivery logistics
    --> RV-List message posted by: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org> On Fri Jun 4 16:45:53 2004, Mike Draper wrote : >I am back in the building mode working on my emp and am just about to >place an order for a QB fuse/wing. >[ ... snip ... ] >Thanks in advance for sharing your experience. Mike, I picked my QB fuselage up from the ABF terminal and would do it the same way again ... since it worked out so amazingly well. What I did was pay my mechanic for his time to bring his flat-bed roll-back car carrier out to help me pick it up. When he got to the terminal he raised the bed of the truck up flush with the loading dock. The guy on the dock wiggled the QB box in line with the truck bed, then got behind and just shoved it into place. Once we had the truck in place the box was on the bed and tied down in minutes. Quick-and-easy. At the house my mechanic rolled the bed back and tilted it down to the ground. We took some long bars (I think they were actually galvanized fence posts) and used them as levers to lift the end of the box on the low end and then we would "row" it down the bed. As one end got to the bottom we lifted and put one end on a moving dolly (purchased at Northern Tools) and then slid the box down the rest of the way. When the other end got to the bottom we once again used the levers to lift and set *that* end on a moving dolly too. After that a single person could move it around the shop at will. It took all of 5 minutes to get it off the truck this way, and while I had about 6-or-so people there to help ... we had more than we needed and some were left with just standing around and watching the show. The delivery cost me $125 and a little time after work one day. It was absolutely a piece of cake ... and made me wonder why I had worried so much about how hard it would be. This is how I'm going to get my finishing kit box home for sure! -- Dwight (prosealing .. yuck ... ) DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:06:42 AM PST US
    From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
    Subject: Re: IT'S ALIVE!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> Hey Les....how about pointing me to a couple of IO-540's.....I am not having much luck here in California. I have been causually looking for a core to rebuild or a midtime engine and havnt come up with much. The ones I have seen for sale seem to be in Florida and I have been warned to keep clear of those. Salt air and airboats :) I still have lots of time before I need one but I figure I better get looking if I am going to find a deal. Thanks....Evan RV-10 wings do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lwfeatherston@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: IT'S ALIVE! > --> RV-List message posted by: Lwfeatherston@aol.com > > Do Not Archive! I have been a huge fan of Richard Van Grunsven's airplanes > since my RV-4 with a Lycoming IO-360 sort of fell into my lap about 8 years > ago. I purchased mine from the wife of my very close friend who unfortunately > deceased himself at an early age. It is a bit amusing to remember talking with > the people at Van's and with Mike Seager, inquiring as to whether or not my > flying abilities measured up to this "hot" ship. They were all very kind and > assured me that it would be a very nice airplane to fly. I was positively > amazed (as were many of you) what a delightful airplane I had discovered. The only > things I was unhappy about was the physical (I am 6'1" and 215 lbs) > dimensions of the cockpit, and the solid crankshaft Lycoming which was equipped with a > wooden prop. I.E. no serious IFR work in rain! Within a couple of years my > desires overwhelmed my budget, and I decided to build a much larger RV........ > I decided on the RV-8 and purchased an RV-8QB. I was intent upon the Super > RV-8 conversion so popular in Indianapolis. When I went to Oregon to pick up > the kits, Van "his-self" and I spoke for a number of hours regarding the > I0-540. First off, there are almost no O- or I0-360's left out there. But there is > an IO-540 laying around almost every hanger in the country just begging to be > restored. It is my unremitting conviction, that you can have a -540 for less > or no worse than equal money over a -360. Now with all respect to Van, when > he asked me not to put a -540 on an RV-8, I found a Harmon Rocket II project > which I purchased and finished. I believe I have found true happiness, a > large cockpit, a constant speed Hartzell for penetrating the rain, and maybe best > of all a designer who blesses the Lycoming -540. Want to go faster? Don't > boost the compression (we did that in High School); don't force yourself into the > premium fuel market; just do what the drag racing boys have > done..............Cubic Inches! I love my Rocket. With 61 hours on it, I have experienced a > flight in formation with a Mooney cross country at 155 knots. He burned 8.4 > gph, and I burned 7.8. Then when I have money, but want to move it on, I cruise > at my "N" number which is 206KT@75%. That costs 13.6 gph. Most of the time > I like 188 knots at 10.7gph which is my most efficient at 53% power. Can you > spell T.B.O? And can you climb at 4300'/min if you want to? I purchased my > engine for $14,000 with 450 hours on a first run rebuild by a terrific "name > brand" shop in Tulsa. Please do not think I am bragging or some egotistical bad > guy. I just researched all the options, talked with everyone who would give > me a piece of their wisdom, and I believe I made the correct choice. You may > do as you wish, but I would encourage you to consider a lovely airplane; the > Van's RV-4, converted by a really sincere and nice gentleman (John Harmon) who > cares about his customers; and build a Harmon Rocket. I am absolutely > delighted. Thanks for reading about my experiences. And good flying in whatever > pleases you. Les Featherston morocketman@aol.com or 417-466-4663 DO NOT ARCHIVE! > >


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    Time: 08:07:18 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph Koger" <rhkoger@fbx.com>
    Subject: Boone Annual RV Day
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph Koger" <rhkoger@fbx.com> Join us Saturday June 12th for the "ANNUAL BOONE RV DAY" See completed RVs and the many projects in process. RV-6; three RV-7s; RV-8 and two RV-10s. Planned presentations on many RV related topics. Planning for the interior by DJ Lauritsen Wireing Aircraft systems. First Flight/transition by Stu VanDyke Getting the most from your GPS by Chuck Genz Doing a thorough annual by Dave Kuykendal Of course the usual coffee & donuts and noon-catered lunch of BBQ Pork Sandwiches. For more information Ralph Koger rhkoger@fbx.com


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    Time: 08:42:08 AM PST US
    From: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
    Subject: Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com> Hi Got mine from Abby, she's really great to work with and will bend over backwards to help if you have special requests. I know of 4 RV's here that have Abby's interior and all are very pleased. Oh Yeah, I got a RV8A and have not made a desision on sidewalls yet. Don't know about *written* instructions as she came over in person to supervise, now that's service .................. Gert Smcm75@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com > > Just wanted to know if any of you guys out there have purchased RV interiors > from Abby Erdmann? The specific questions that I have are: > > 1. How is the workmanship? > 2. Are ALL the sidewall fabric and carpet pieces either pre cut or at least > marked out with a template or are you provided with rolls of fabric and carpet > unmarked? > 3. Are detailed installation instructions provided? > > Thanks for your imput> > > Scott Morrow > RV-6A 95% Almost there > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500


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    Time: 09:04:18 AM PST US
    From: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
    Subject: Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com> Is she the wife of the famous BearHawk builder? Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gert" <gert@execpc.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A > --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com> > > Hi > > Got mine from Abby, she's really great to work with and will bend over > backwards to help if you have special requests. I know of 4 RV's here > that have Abby's interior and all are very pleased. > > Oh Yeah, I got a RV8A and have not made a desision on sidewalls yet. > Don't know about *written* instructions as she came over in person to > supervise, now that's service .................. > > > Gert > > Smcm75@aol.com wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com > > > > Just wanted to know if any of you guys out there have purchased RV interiors > > from Abby Erdmann? The specific questions that I have are: > > > > 1. How is the workmanship? > > 2. Are ALL the sidewall fabric and carpet pieces either pre cut or at least > > marked out with a template or are you provided with rolls of fabric and carpet > > unmarked? > > 3. Are detailed installation instructions provided? > > > > Thanks for your imput> > > > > Scott Morrow > > RV-6A 95% Almost there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 > >


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    Time: 10:16:28 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Erickson" <alaner_rv8@hotmail.com>
    Subject: QB delivery logistics
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alan Erickson" <alaner_rv8@hotmail.com> |--> RV-List message posted by: Mike Draper <mdraper@nww.com> | |I am back in the building mode working on my emp and am just about to |place an order for a QB fuse/wing. | |My question to the group is one around logistics. Vans told me for |an addition $60 the trucking company can deliver to your door. |However, I was told that they trucker will not assist in the unloading. | |Some folks have opted to pick up the crates at the terminal with a |uhaul rental. If you go this route, the folks at the terminal will |load your truck. You can then drive home and unpack at your leisure. | |For those of you who have gone the home delivery option. How have |you unloaded the truck? Would you do it again or opt for a terminal |delivery? | Great question! I solicited advice from many professionals, and nobody had what I felt to be a safe solution for both the cargo and the guilty bystanders. So: I built a little loading ramp, which took half a day and <$100 in lumber. Here's a shot of the dev truck emitting my qb fuse crate; I'm using a bar to ease the 2x4 foot over the lip of the ramp: http://www.blarg.net/~ericka/ramp01.jpg (~100k) The crate slides down the plywood ramp into the shop and onto furniture dollys. The shop end of the ramp is about 1 dolly high, and the truck end is about 3.5'. The ramp surface is 3/4" x 4' x 16' plywood and is supported by three 2x8 beams (which is massive overkill but has good safety karma!). I block the truck end of the ramp up to match the truck height after wheeling it into position on a furniture dolly. I've used this ramp for the qb fuse/emp, qb wings, and finish/fwf kits, and will use it again for the engine in a coupla weeks (yayy!). Each unload was less than 10 minutes. I and the delivery drivers have been very happy with this method; I wouldn't choose to do anything differently. Holler if you'd like more pics or description, I'll be glad to provide them. Alan Erickson 8A (QB) AeroSport Power IO360M1B6, 9.2:1, AFP, 2xPlasma WW 200RV Dynon, 430, SL30, 327, 2x106a, ACS2002 (...no longer lurking -- howdy, RV folks!)


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    Time: 11:35:32 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> I would put some anti-chafe material on the skirt right away before you start to scratch the skin. Mine is starting to get a little banged up and it doesnt fit very well. Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 68 hours Chicago/Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net> <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RV-List: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem! > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net> > > Hi all, > > Just wanted to share a few thoughts and "crow" about how well (and easy) my -7A slider canopy rear skirts were to install. Took all of 2.0 hours from start to finish and they are FLUSH! I was really dreading this step in the construction of the canopy after reading all the horror stories in the RV List archives and various email lists. Heck, even Van's construction manual warns "....installing the rear canopy skirts is perhaps the most difficult part of the entire canopy construction process.....". I dis-agree! It was the easiest part for me. I have a few ideas that may help dispell the fear of others who are not quite there. Read on..... > > First of all, none of this would have been possible without the help of my good friend and local -7A builder Tom Yaberg. Tom has helped and guided me every step of the way during the canopy construction from properly bending the canopy frame and attaching the "glass", as well as installing the side and rear canopy skirts. Tom recently completed his -7A slider canopy and it came out PERFECT. My canopy is coming along just as well thanks to Tom's skills and the fact the canopy construction is still fresh in his memory bank. Thank you, Tom! > > Here are a couple of tips: > > 1. Try to locate a local builder who has sucessfully built a good looking (and fitting) slider canopy that is willing to lend a hand. This is invaluable. Don't be afraid to ask for help. Offer cold beer and pizza, a couple of steak dinners, just do whatever it takes.... :-). It really takes two sets of hands to safely move the canopy on/off the frame and to pull those skirts tight! > > 2. Spend the time necessary to get the steel canopy frame bent as close as possible to the dimesions called out in the plans. Seems my canopy frame came from the factory in pretty good shape.... only took Tom and me about 3 hours of 'tweaking' and we only had to install/re-move the canopy frame about 2 dozen times from the fuselage. > > 3. I mis-takenly trimmed the canopy plexigalss within 3/8"-1/2" of the rear canopy frame where the skirts will be attached. The plans indicate you should leave approx. 1.5" of plexiglass back there. I didn't (again... by mistake) and I think this is another reason the rear skirts fit so well and easy. By cutting the plexiglass nearer the steel tube, I didn't have the "ski-slope/dove-tail" effect of the rear canopy to worry about.... It just didn't exist! > > 4. I placed a 1/8" AL space between the roll bar and the forward portion of the sliding canopy on both sides effectively holding it "open/ajar" while the rear skirts were fitted. This I believe also helped snug-up the skirts even more when the canopy is fully closed and latched. > > Hope this helps those that haven't quite gotten there yet on the canopy. I may have just gotten lucky, but I'm feeling pretty good about my "skirts" and canopy in general. Only thing left is to fiberglass the front windscreen and Tom has agreed to lend an expert hand there as well..... > > Take care, > Jack Lockamy #71103 > Camarillo, CA > -7A slider canopy almost done > >


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    Time: 11:37:29 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem!
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net> Im thinking of cutting nothces out of my fairing so that I can bend it to fit perfectly and then lay some glass up over the notched skirt. Any suggestions? Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 68 hours Chicago/Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Slider Canopy Rear Skirts ... No Problem! > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@att.net> > > The rear skirts on my -7A slider canopy are TWO separate parts (LT and RT). Van's did a pretty good job of laying these two parts out on a small sheet of AL (you have to cut both of them out of blank material which has the patterns traced onto them from the factory). > > Jack Lockamy > Camarillo, CA > >


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    Time: 11:41:45 AM PST US
    From: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds@macs.net>
    Subject: Re: Boone Annual RV Day
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds@macs.net> How much trouble would it be to include AIRPORT, CITY, STATE?????? Inquiring minds would like to know! Richard Reynolds Ralph Koger wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph Koger" <rhkoger@fbx.com> > > Join us Saturday June 12th for the "ANNUAL BOONE RV DAY" > > See completed RVs and the many projects in process. > RV-6; three RV-7s; RV-8 and two RV-10s. > > Planned presentations on many RV related topics. > > Planning for the interior by DJ Lauritsen > Wireing Aircraft systems. > First Flight/transition by Stu VanDyke > Getting the most from your GPS by Chuck Genz > Doing a thorough annual by Dave Kuykendal > > Of course the usual coffee & donuts and noon-catered lunch of BBQ Pork Sandwiches. > > For more information Ralph Koger rhkoger@fbx.com >


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    Time: 12:48:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: QB delivery logistics
    From: Thomas E Doran <dorante@juno.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Thomas E Doran <dorante@juno.com> Mike: I received my QB fuse/wing shipment about 2 years ago. Here are my recommendations: 1. Accept delivery at the terminal. Depending on where you live, it may not be possible to get a tractor trailer into your driveway. (Although the QB fits in a large van, don't expect the delivery agency to deliver it in one.) I live in the country, and for delivery of another large item, the truck driver refused to come in my driveway. That is another long story, but my experience with home delivery has been bad. The drivers don't show up when they are scheduled to, offer no help, and give you 30 minutes to unload. 2. Rent a large van truck. It cost me about $250 and I had to drive almost 200 miles total. Most terminals only have the ability to unload and load at the standard height of a truck or trailer backed up to the loading dock. I don't remember the exact height, but it is about 48" above the ground. The terminal I used would not load onto a low trailer. Their fork truck did not leave the warehouse/transfer building. 3. Make sure that you check with the transport company to make sure they accept personal checks. I brought cash. 4. Once you are at the terminal, take a Valium before watching the unloading and reloading by the fork lift driver. Thank heavens that Van's builds a strong crate and does an excellent job of packaging. Van's marks the box as "High Value Airplane Parts", but that serves little purpose since I doubt the fork lift operator could read. The QB is a very large box, and in not easily forked. Therefore, it is usually pushed around with an empty pallet on the forks, or otherwise abused. I had to help the forklift operator. He could not get the Fuse Box off the delivery truck. He tried to pick up one end and drag it out, but it kept falling off the forks. I had brought 50' of 3/8 nylon rope. I finally convinced him to tie the box to the fork trunk and that held it on the forks, allowing it to be dragged. The unloading from the delivery truck and loading into the rented van was quite traumatic. I expect that my experience in probably not normal, but be prepared for an interesting time. The wing box is very long, tall and slender. It is difficult to handle since it is "tipsy". It is not real heavy, but be careful. Make sure you bring rope, tie down straps, wood blocks, nails and a hammer (or long screws and a battery screw driver) to secure the two boxes in the van prior to departing the terminal. Screw the woodblocks to the floor of the truck to keep the boxes from sliding around. 5. Once at home, I actually unloaded the boxes by myself. I do not recommend this. I have a front end loader that helped me, but it was very difficult.. I recommend getting 3 or 4 friends to help. 6. Unload the fuse box first. Run the rope around the front of the box and drag it out the back of the truck. Once it is about 5 or 6 feet out of the truck, build a support by making two columns of cinder blocks with a 4x4 across them to support that end of the box. Two people and lift one end of the box to allow the 4x4 to be placed under that end. Now, secure the rope you have running around the front of the truck to some immovable object, like a car or a tree, and slowly start moving the van forward, till about 3-4 feet of the box is still in the truck. You will have moved forward about 10 feet. Now build another set of support columns and a 4x4 next to the truck to support that end of the box. You should now have the box sitting up in the air supported on four columns of cinder blocks and can drive the truck away. 7. Now, have two men lift one end, and remove one cinder block from the columns on one end. Do the same on the other end, and repeat this till the box is on the ground. If eight inch increments (height of one cinder block) is too much use 4" wood blocks to lower it 4'' at a time on each end. I did this process by myself, but I used my loader to lift the end of the box. 8. To unload the wings, I used the ramp that came with the truck. I slid the wing box, using a pry bar, to the center of the truck and lined it up with the ramp. I then pushed it out onto the ramp. The scary part was when the wing box was half way out of the truck and I had to lift the end in the truck to get the box in line with the ramp. Use ropes attached to the top and held securely by helpers on each side to keep the box from tipping over. Once it is on the ramp, just let it slowly slide down. One the box front edge hits the ground, you can just lift it and drag if off the ramp. Again, have a helper on each side to keep if balanced. 9. If you have some 2" plastic pipe, you can these as rollers to help you move it around. The boxes have 2x4 cross braces on the bottom which interfere with these rollers, but they help some. The boxes are light enough that they can be pushed and dragged on concrete without much difficulty by 2 people. Hope this helps. Don't forget the camera. (and the beer and burgers for your helpers) Happy building, TOM RV 6A, QB (making slow progress) On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:45:53 -0400 Mike Draper <mdraper@nww.com> writes: > --> RV-List message posted by: Mike Draper <mdraper@nww.com> > > I am back in the building mode working on my emp and am just about > to > place an order for a QB fuse/wing. > > My question to the group is one around logistics. Vans told me for > an addition $60 the trucking company can deliver to your door. > However, I was told that they trucker will not assist in the > unloading. > > Some folks have opted to pick up the crates at the terminal with a > uhaul rental. If you go this route, the folks at the terminal will > load your truck. You can then drive home and unpack at your > leisure. > > For those of you who have gone the home delivery option. How have > you unloaded the truck? Would you do it again or opt for a > terminal > delivery? > > Thanks in advance for sharing your experience. > > Best, > > Mike > Bridgewater, MA > RV-8 qb (finally) > > > Message > > <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> > > I am back in the building mode working on > my emp and am just about to > place an order for a QB fuse/wing. > > My > question to the group is one around logistics. Vans told me for > an addition > $60 the trucking company can deliver to your door. > However, I was told that > theytrucker will not assist in the > unloading. > > Some folks have opted to pick up the crates at the terminal > with a > uhaul rental. If you go this route, the folks at the terminal > will > load your truck. You can then drive home and unpack at your > leisure. > > For those of you who have gone the home delivery option. How > have > you unloaded the truck? Would you > do it again or opt for a terminal delivery? > > Thanks in advance for > sharing your experience. > > Best, > > Mike > Bridgewater, MA > RV-8 qb > (finally) > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:25:20 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> Nope, different Erdmann. Dr. Leathers wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com> > >Is she the wife of the famous BearHawk builder? > >Doc >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gert" <gert@execpc.com> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A > > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com> >> >>Hi >> >>Got mine from Abby, she's really great to work with and will bend over >>backwards to help if you have special requests. I know of 4 RV's here >>that have Abby's interior and all are very pleased. >> >>Oh Yeah, I got a RV8A and have not made a desision on sidewalls yet. >>Don't know about *written* instructions as she came over in person to >>supervise, now that's service .................. >> >> >>Gert >> >>Smcm75@aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com >>> >>>Just wanted to know if any of you guys out there have purchased RV >>> >>> >interiors > > >>>from Abby Erdmann? The specific questions that I have are: >>> >>>1. How is the workmanship? >>>2. Are ALL the sidewall fabric and carpet pieces either pre cut or at >>> >>> >least > > >>>marked out with a template or are you provided with rolls of fabric and >>> >>> >carpet > > >>>unmarked? >>>3. Are detailed installation instructions provided? >>> >>>Thanks for your imput> >>> >>>Scott Morrow >>>RV-6A 95% Almost there >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 02:13:30 PM PST US
    From: JNice51355@aol.com
    Subject: Expired Sectionals
    --> RV-List message posted by: JNice51355@aol.com Does anybody know of a source for expired sectionals?? I need some of these for "pre" flight planning purposes. It could be useful in helping to establish a trip plan. Thanks Jim Nice


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    Time: 02:14:54 PM PST US
    From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A
    --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Smcm75@aol.com> Subject: RV-List: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A > --> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com > > Just wanted to know if any of you guys out there have purchased RV interiors > from Abby Erdmann? The specific questions that I have are: > > 1. How is the workmanship? It is very good. Good material. > 2. Are ALL the sidewall fabric and carpet pieces either pre cut or at least > marked out with a template or are you provided with rolls of fabric and carpet > unmarked? Yes. > 3. Are detailed installation instructions provided? Yes. > > Thanks for your imput> I have not fully installed it yet, but it looks to be all there. I found Abby to be easy to work with. Nice person in addition. Seems willing to do any thing to make you happy with her work. > > Scott Morrow > RV-6A 95% Almost there > Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"


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    Time: 03:12:18 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph Koger" <rhkoger@fbx.com>
    Subject: Re: Boone Annual RV Day
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph Koger" <rhkoger@fbx.com> Sorry about not giving complete information about location of Boone, IA RV day. Airport indemnification is BNW. Also, forgot to say that there is a swap for cash or trade items. If you come you can buy a Koger SunShade at wholesale price. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph Koger" <rhkoger@fbx.com> > > > > Join us Saturday June 12th for the "ANNUAL BOONE RV DAY" > > > > See completed RVs and the many projects in process. > > RV-6; three RV-7s; RV-8 and two RV-10s. > > > > Planned presentations on many RV related topics. > > > > Planning for the interior by DJ Lauritsen > > Wireing Aircraft systems. > > First Flight/transition by Stu VanDyke > > Getting the most from your GPS by Chuck Genz > > Doing a thorough annual by Dave Kuykendal > > > > Of course the usual coffee & donuts and noon-catered lunch of BBQ Pork Sandwiches. > > > > For more information Ralph Koger rhkoger@fbx.com


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    Time: 04:42:15 PM PST US
    From: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Abby Erdmann's Flight line interiors RV-6A
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com> Abby Erdmann will work with you until completely satisfied. How do I know? I ordered aileron boots from her but she had no pattern for the RV-6 series. I sent her a rough drawing and based upon that, made up a pair of boots but alas, did not fit. The second try was somewhat better, but still not perfect. Finally, for the third try, I sent her a full scale aluminum doubler/retaining ring that I fabricated for use in my 6A aileron boot installation and she sized the boots accordingly....and I had them within a week. In the end, my out of pocket cost was for postage only, because in Abby's opinion I provided her the means to offer aileron boots for the RV-6 series. Her workmanship, people skills, and dedication to craft is truly outstanding. Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" "finishing" ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:35:19 PM PST US
    From: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
    "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Transponder not working
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net> Today my transponder quit working. I have a GTX327 and an A-30 encoder wired using Approach Avionics hub. The transponder still shows the reply being carried out but ATC could not pick me up. The antenna is located far enough away from the comm antenna. I have checked the BNC connector on antenna. I'm going to order a different antenna and try that. The antenna I have is the normal rod type with the ball on the end. I've seen this problem with Microair transponders before and it turned out to be a problem with the unit. I've never heard of a problem with the 327. I do let the encoder warm up. On this mornings flight it was intermittent and ATC commented that I came in and out when I maneuvered. Can't really prove this as ot doesn't happen all the time. Then after flying for 1.5 hours I returned to the airport and ATC never received my transponder at all. No position, no altitude. Any other ideas of how to trouble shot this? Thanks Steve Hurlbut RV7A 90 hours


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    Time: 10:12:54 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>, <SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com>
    Subject: For Sale: RV-7A QB kit + completed empennage
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> I'm posting this for a friend. Don't feel like waiting for the QB lead time? Snag these RV-7A QB wings & fuselage kits still in the crates: http://www.rvproject.com/forsale/qb.html Respond to Gordon directly (his contact info is on that page). )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com




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