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1. 05:36 AM - RV's and gravel (Garrett, Randy L (C4S))
2. 06:26 AM - Re: Air Charts (Harvey Sigmon)
3. 06:56 AM - Re: Air Charts (Bluecavu@aol.com)
4. 07:10 AM - 0320 Engine (Rver)
5. 07:38 AM - Looking for O-320 ring gear (Johnny Johnson)
6. 07:58 AM - Re: RV's and gravel (Ted)
7. 08:00 AM - Way back machine - not building related (Scott Vanartsdalen)
8. 08:34 AM - Re: Way back machine - not building related (Rabaut, Chuck)
9. 08:34 AM - Re: Way back machine - not building related (Ross Schlotthauer)
10. 09:24 AM - Re: Way back machine - not building related (Brian Denk)
11. 01:12 PM - Re: Way back machine - not building related (Dr. Peter Laurence)
12. 02:29 PM - Price of RV4's (Bruce Bell)
13. 02:47 PM - Re: Way back machine - not building related (Rabaut, Chuck)
14. 02:49 PM - Re: N89DD 1st flt. (RV6AOKC@aol.com)
15. 03:03 PM - Re: Price of RV4's (Ed Anderson)
16. 03:05 PM - Re: 0320 Engine (Brian Huffaker)
17. 03:10 PM - Re: Price of RV4's (Tom Gummo)
18. 03:23 PM - Re: Price of RV4's (JOHN STARN)
19. 03:23 PM - Has Anyone Financed an RV kit? (Cory Emberson)
20. 03:50 PM - Re: Price of RV4's (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
21. 05:38 PM - LASAR IGNITION TIMING (Jim Anglin)
22. 05:53 PM - For Sale: Unstarted RV-7 prepunched empennage kit (Randy Jones)
23. 07:03 PM - aircharts (Wheeler North)
24. 07:14 PM - Re: Has Anyone Financed an RV kit? (Charlie England)
25. 07:17 PM - Looking for ring gear... should be flywheel assy (Johnny Johnson)
26. 09:36 PM - Re: RV's and gravel (Eustace Bowhay)
27. 10:17 PM - lectrical planning per Aeroelectric (Ross Schlotthauer)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Garrett, Randy L (C4S)" <Randy.L.Garrett@gdc4s.com>
Hi ...
I have a question about flying off gravel strips. I am planning to fly to Alaska
from Massachusetts in a few weeks in a Van's RV-6A. I'm assuming I should
remove the wheel pants. Should I also remove the gear leg fairings? I wanted
to get advice from people who fly there about the best tradeoff between operating
from gravel versus keeping the drag down with the fairings. I would only
be going to major public airports, not real back country strips, but still
places like Northway are gravel.
Second, any RV-ators along the Alaska Highway or in Fairbanks / Anchorage area
who would like a call or visit on the way?
Thanks!
Randy
N4031P
RV-6A 300 hours
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Harvey Sigmon" <rv6hes@comcast.net>
I have been using the charts for years, last year I purchased the East
Sectional the only problem I see is they are so thick and heavy. The
sectional is about 1" thick, they work well though.
Harvey Sigmon RV6A flying Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Air Charts
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> Ditto that! I've been using both for several years and will never go back
> to individual sectionals or charts (IFR & VFR). Hopefully this good press
> will give them some more coverage and more people will discover these.
They
> are really a nice addition. Unlike some people, I actually like the
spiral
> binding because I can just flip to the page I need and lay the whole book
up
> on the dash when it's not in my lap. Haven't yet purchased their
> sectionals, I've been using the WAC version, but the sectionals will be my
> next purchase!
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug Rozendaal
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Air Charts
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
> Look inside nearly any airshow airplane and you will see Howie Keefe's
> aircharts. They are great for old eyes and small cockpits.
>
> They come in both sectional 2 books for the country, and WACs 1 book for
the
> country. I flew on the WACs for the last several years, but my bifocals
> mandated the change to the Sectional books this year. I use the IFR
system
> as well. Highly recommended.
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com
Another happy customer...
5 years now using aircharts in my RV-4. The *only* way to go in a small RV
cockpit. I personally love the spiral bound format -easy to flip through and
lays on my left or right leg. Page numbering system makes finding the page you
need easy.
I was using the VFR Atlas (WAC charts) but have switched to the east and west
Sectional Atlases.
Several friends use the IFR system and are happy wih it -though it is much
more cumbersome -as it uses NOS plate books -but it's still one of the most
cost-effective systems going.
I have an (aluminum) 'pocket' I made against the fuse side behind the -404
bulkhead just for the purpose of putting a chart book when it's not out on my
leg. Very slick.
Scott
N4ZW
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--> RV-List message posted by: Rver <rv61234@earthlink.net>
Hi, I have an O320-D32B, 160 HP for sale. 2900 TT, 1300 SMOH, 800
since prop strike. New mags, harness, plugs. 1300 hrs on all other
accessories. Currently flying in a RV6. I also have a matching
Sensinech fixed pitch prop for the engine and RV6. Will sell for best
offer. Please email me with your serious inquires.
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Subject: | Looking for O-320 ring gear |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Johnny Johnson" <Johnny@wiktel.com>
I want to find a 122-tooth large pulley ring gear for my O-320. Would
prefer to buy outright but will consider swapping my small pulley if you
have an O-320 and want your alternator to turn a little slower.
Reason: I want to install an MT electric prop and Im told that requires
the large pulley I would prefer to adapt the prop controls to my current
ring gear to save wear & tear on the alternator, but that apparently isnt
possible.
Thanks Johnny Johnson
RV-3A 49MM
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ted" <ted_french@telus.net>
Randy
Leave them on. The worst gravel damage I suffered in my 6A was from taking
off on a gravel strip with no wheel pants. Rock almost punched a hole right
through the belly. As long as you have reasonable clearance between the
ground and the bottom of your pants you won't have a problem. Also if you
have to land on dirt or gravel and its wet, you won't believe how much mud
can collect on the bottom of the wing. I leave mine on all summer regardless
of gravel, grass or dirt. Just take them off for the winter...
Ted
Flying RV-6A C-FXCS 170 hrs around central British Columbia.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Garrett, Randy L
(C4S)
Subject: RV-List: RV's and gravel
--> RV-List message posted by: "Garrett, Randy L (C4S)"
<Randy.L.Garrett@gdc4s.com>
Hi ...
I have a question about flying off gravel strips. I am planning to fly to
Alaska from Massachusetts in a few weeks in a Van's RV-6A. I'm assuming I
should remove the wheel pants. Should I also remove the gear leg fairings?
I wanted to get advice from people who fly there about the best tradeoff
between operating from gravel versus keeping the drag down with the
fairings. I would only be going to major public airports, not real back
country strips, but still places like Northway are gravel.
Second, any RV-ators along the Alaska Highway or in Fairbanks / Anchorage
area who would like a call or visit on the way?
Thanks!
Randy
N4031P
RV-6A 300 hours
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Subject: | Way back machine - not building related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Care to take a walk throug yesteryear at Van's?
Take a look:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970601164123/www.vansaircraft.com/main.htm
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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Subject: | Way back machine - not building related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rabaut, Chuck" <Chuck.Rabaut@fresnosheriff.org>
Scott,
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I still want an RV-3.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Scott
Vanartsdalen
Subject: RV-List: Way back machine - not building related
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Care to take a walk throug yesteryear at Van's?
Take a look:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970601164123/www.vansaircraft.com/main.htm
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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Subject: | Way back machine - not building related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Schlotthauer" <rv7maker@hotmail.com>
Scott,
What a cool site. I'll take the 97 catalog prices!
-Ross Schlotthauer
www.experimentalair.com
RV-7 Finishing
do not archive
>From: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Way back machine - not building related
>Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 07:59:55 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>
>Care to take a walk throug yesteryear at Van's?
>
>Take a look:
>http://web.archive.org/web/19970601164123/www.vansaircraft.com/main.htm
>
>
>--
>Scott VanArtsdalen
>RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
>
download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
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Subject: | Way back machine - not building related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>Care to take a walk throug yesteryear at Van's?
>
>Take a look:
>http://web.archive.org/web/19970601164123/www.vansaircraft.com/main.htm
>
>
>--
>Scott VanArtsdalen
>RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
Neat! I started my -8 in '97. Pics of Morgan and Benedict add a slightly
somber note....and N58RV...
Thanks for the memories!
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51 who'd a thunk of a four seat RV in '97!
Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN
House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/
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Subject: | Re: Way back machine - not building related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Peter Laurence" <dr.laurence@mbdi.org>
Thanks for the site.
I decided to save 5k on the EA 0-320-D1A and ordered it from this catalog
for 17.5 K
Peter Laurence
do not archive
>
> Care to take a walk throug yesteryear at Van's?
>
> Take a look:
> http://web.archive.org/web/19970601164123/www.vansaircraft.com/main.htm
>
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
Hi All,
Just received a Notice of Appraised Value from the Lubbock Central Appraisal
District for my unfinished RV4, still unassembled in the garage, for
$295,000 dollars! Proposed tax estimate $5,536.55! Aircraft for private use
should be exempt from the tax here but the value is out of sight.
Bruce Bell
Lubbock, Texas
RV4 # 2888
N23BB
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
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Subject: | Way back machine - not building related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rabaut, Chuck" <Chuck.Rabaut@fresnosheriff.org>
Peter,
Let me know if that works... I want one for that price too.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
Thanks for the site.
I decided to save 5k on the EA 0-320-D1A and ordered it from this catalog
for 17.5 K
Peter Laurence
do not archive
>
> Care to take a walk throug yesteryear at Van's?
>
> Take a look:
> http://web.archive.org/web/19970601164123/www.vansaircraft.com/main.htm
>
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
>
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Subject: | Re: N89DD 1st flt. |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6AOKC@aol.com
Congrats Dick...!!!
Kurt in OKC
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Subject: | Re: Price of RV4's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
>
> Hi All,
> Just received a Notice of Appraised Value from the Lubbock Central
Appraisal
> District for my unfinished RV4, still unassembled in the garage, for
> $295,000 dollars! Proposed tax estimate $5,536.55! Aircraft for private
use
> should be exempt from the tax here but the value is out of sight.
>
> Bruce Bell
> Lubbock, Texas
> RV4 # 2888
> N23BB
>
>
See, if the district would be willing to buy it for 1/2 their assessed
value{:>). More seriously, perhaps their decimal point slipped a bit. I
would think an argument could be made that a Kit is simple an assemblage of
parts, certainly not worth more than you paid for the pieces. Unless there
is a "Value Added" tax in Texas on kits, I would assert that until it
receives an airworthiness certificate from the FAA then it is technically
not an airplane. It worked for me during the years it took to complete my
kit. But, then I wasn't in Texas
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Brian Huffaker <bifft@xmission.com>
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, Rver wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rver <rv61234@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi, I have an O320-D32B, 160 HP for sale. 2900 TT, 1300 SMOH, 800
> since prop strike. New mags, harness, plugs. 1300 hrs on all other
> accessories. Currently flying in a RV6. I also have a matching
> Sensinech fixed pitch prop for the engine and RV6. Will sell for best
> offer. Please email me with your serious inquires.
Looking for something similar to this for my -8A, but wondering about
the prop strike. Since you've put 800 hours on since, I imagine it wasn't
too bad, do you have more detail on it?
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 Riviting fuselage subfloor.
1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying
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Subject: | Re: Price of RV4's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Bruce,
When I got my N number, I called my plane a Gummo Special. The tax board
never knew what to do about that and used my construction loan as the value
of the plane.
However, 295,000 seems a little high. :-)
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
Subject: RV-List: Price of RV4's
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
>
> Hi All,
> Just received a Notice of Appraised Value from the Lubbock Central
Appraisal
> District for my unfinished RV4, still unassembled in the garage, for
> $295,000 dollars! Proposed tax estimate $5,536.55! Aircraft for private
use
> should be exempt from the tax here but the value is out of sight.
>
> Bruce Bell
> Lubbock, Texas
> RV4 # 2888
> N23BB
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE!
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Price of RV4's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Sell it to the Lubbock Central Appraisal District for $294,995.00 and let
them sell for a $5.00 profit. 8*)
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
Subject: RV-List: Price of RV4's
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
>
> Hi All,
> Just received a Notice of Appraised Value from the Lubbock Central
Appraisal
> District for my unfinished RV4, still unassembled in the garage, for
> $295,000 dollars! Proposed tax estimate $5,536.55! Aircraft for private
use
> should be exempt from the tax here but the value is out of sight.
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Subject: | Has Anyone Financed an RV kit? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Hello!
I'm writing an article for Kitplanes magazine about financing for
homebuilts, and just got off the phone with the President of First Pryority
Bank in Oklahoma. We spoke quite a bit about RVs, given that is the ONLY
kind of experimental aircraft they will finance. Van has built up such
long-standing reputation of quality and reliability ... They pretty much
only finance the fastbuild kits, which gets their collateral out of their
hair sooner.
Has anyone had any experience in financing your RV kit, and would you care
to share that experience? Also, if you've had the experience of financing an
already-completed RV, I would love to hear from you as well.
Thanks so much! If you care to contact me off-list, my email address is
cory@lightspeededit.com or kpl@lightspeededit.com. My "list" email address
is bootless@earthlink.net.
Best, Cory
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Subject: | Re: Price of RV4's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Tell the City of Lubbock I've got a great deal for them on anice shiny RV-6.
Hell, I'll even deliver it to 'em for free.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Bell <rv4bell@door.net>
Subject: RV-List: Price of RV4's
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
>
> Hi All,
> Just received a Notice of Appraised Value from the Lubbock Central
Appraisal
> District for my unfinished RV4, still unassembled in the garage, for
> $295,000 dollars! Proposed tax estimate $5,536.55! Aircraft for private
use
> should be exempt from the tax here but the value is out of sight.
>
> Bruce Bell
> Lubbock, Texas
> RV4 # 2888
> N23BB
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE!
>
>
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"RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: | LASAR IGNITION TIMING |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <jlanglin44@earthlink.net>
Hi all -
I have a friend here who is trying to time his new RV-6A with LASAR
ignition................... without a timer. He wants to know if there is
anyone locally who would be willing to loan him one. I have no idea what it
takes but if you have the device to time it you should know <G>. He is on
the airpark at Independence, Oregon. You can get him by emailing me or just
reply to the list.
Jim
HR II almost flying.................
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Subject: | For Sale: Unstarted RV-7 prepunched empennage kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Jones" <disposable1@gpsconnection.com>
Hi All,
I have decided that buying makes more sense than building for me at this time in
my life and have decided to put my RV-7 tail kit up for sale.
It's a new, unstarted prepunched kit with the electric trim tab upgrade and is
still boxed and strapped the way it came from Van's. It was never opened. I
will also include the preview plans set and will assist in any way in any transfer
of ownership documents that Vans might want.
I will deliver anywhere in the ROC / SYR / BUF area for free and will ship anywhere
in the US for actual shipping charges.
The kit is listed at the Van's website for $1425.00 plus $240 for the electric
trim option.
price: $1300
Please send me an email if interested.
Thanks!
Randy Jones
7G0
disposable1@gpsconnection.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
yeah,
all the old guys use Howie's charts...
But even with the WACs the pages go by too fast in an RV...
;{)
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Has Anyone Financed an RV kit? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Cory Emberson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
>
>Hello!
>
>I'm writing an article for Kitplanes magazine about financing for
>homebuilts, and just got off the phone with the President of First Pryority
>Bank in Oklahoma. We spoke quite a bit about RVs, given that is the ONLY
>kind of experimental aircraft they will finance. Van has built up such
>long-standing reputation of quality and reliability ... They pretty much
>only finance the fastbuild kits, which gets their collateral out of their
>hair sooner.
>
>Has anyone had any experience in financing your RV kit, and would you care
>to share that experience? Also, if you've had the experience of financing an
>already-completed RV, I would love to hear from you as well.
>
>Thanks so much! If you care to contact me off-list, my email address is
>cory@lightspeededit.com or kpl@lightspeededit.com. My "list" email address
>is bootless@earthlink.net.
>
>Best, Cory
>
I haven't tried to finance a kit, but my 1st RV-4 was financed by my
credit union at work. The interest rate & term of the loan was the same
as for a boat or an ... RV. The short amortization period made the note
a little higher than a 10-15 year loan, but I had no desire to finance
an a/c over such a long period anyway. All they required beyond normal
stuff was an appraisal from an a/c appraiser since they had no 'blue
book' to follow like for cars and ...RV's.
Since it was a credit union, the rate was actually better than the rate
for used factory a/c at the time.
Charlie
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Subject: | Looking for ring gear... should be flywheel assy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Johnny Johnson" <Johnny@wiktel.com>
My message:
I want to find a 122-tooth large pulley ring gear for my O-320. Would
prefer to buy outright but will consider swapping my small pulley if you
have an O-320 and want your alternator to turn a little slower.
Reason: I want to install an MT electric prop and I'm told that requires
the large pulley. I would prefer to adapt the prop controls to my current
ring gear to save wear & tear on the alternator, but that apparently isn't
possible.
Thanks Johnny Johnson
RV-3A 49MM
That should be "flywheel" I guess... I need the whole business that goes
behind the prop :=))
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Subject: | Re: RV's and gravel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Hi Randy:
You will find that most of the gravel runways in the arctic and along the
Alaska highway are well maintained. I have flown my 6 as far north as the
arctic islands leaving the wheel pants on with no problems.
The main concern is prop damage and this can be avoided by restricting the
RPM to max 1200 while taxiing.
on gravel. If there is no paved run-up area or pad I run at 1000 till I get
minimum oil temp, check the mags at 1000 and go. On take-off I open the
throttle gradually until around 30-40 before going to full throttle.
If I have any concerns about the mags I will check them on the downwind leg
before landing.
Hope this helps
Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay, B.C. RV10 #30 Finishing up the wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "Garrett, Randy L (C4S)" <Randy.L.Garrett@gdc4s.com>
Subject: RV-List: RV's and gravel
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Garrett, Randy L (C4S)"
<Randy.L.Garrett@gdc4s.com>
>
> Hi ...
>
> I have a question about flying off gravel strips. I am planning to fly to
Alaska from Massachusetts in a few weeks in a Van's RV-6A. I'm assuming I
should remove the wheel pants. Should I also remove the gear leg fairings?
I wanted to get advice from people who fly there about the best tradeoff
between operating from gravel versus keeping the drag down with the
fairings. I would only be going to major public airports, not real back
country strips, but still places like Northway are gravel.
>
> Second, any RV-ators along the Alaska Highway or in Fairbanks / Anchorage
area who would like a call or visit on the way?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Randy
> N4031P
> RV-6A 300 hours
>
>
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Subject: | lectrical planning per Aeroelectric |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Schlotthauer" <rv7maker@hotmail.com>
Hi All,
I thought that I had my electrics all layed out, and mostly installed until
I started wondering about my e-bus architecture. Per Aeroelectric figure
Z-11, Bob puts a s*&% load of stuff on the e-bus and runs it all off a 7A
fuse. What the heck? And the feed from the main bus, through the diode is
on 16 GA wire (11A max). What am I missing? My layout is more like Z-11 for
the all electric variety, but I would think that I need to size wire, fuses,
switches, and diode for a situation where everything is on. Is this a
difference in fuse ratings and actual loads?
Thanks,
Ross Schlotthauer
www.experimentalair.com
RV-7 wiring (head scratching)
http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/
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