RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/15/04


Total Messages Posted: 41



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:18 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (qcbccgalley)
     2. 05:24 AM - Re: Re: Fixing Tank Leaks (Allen)
     3. 06:53 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (RV8ter@aol.com)
     4. 07:10 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
     5. 07:11 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Larry Bowen)
     6. 07:15 AM - Special RV for sale (A20driver@aol.com)
     7. 07:38 AM - You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! (Russell Johnson)
     8. 07:40 AM - Re: Avionics Mounting Problems (Scott Diffenbaugh)
     9. 07:43 AM - Re: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! (Rabaut, Chuck)
    10. 07:52 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Dan Checkoway)
    11. 08:07 AM - You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! (Russell Johnson)
    12. 08:29 AM - Re: Avionics Mounting Problems (Dr. Peter Laurence)
    13. 08:50 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Doug Rozendaal)
    14. 08:56 AM - Re: Avionics Mounting Problems (Scott Bilinski)
    15. 09:27 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Laird Owens)
    16. 09:45 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (RV8ter@aol.com)
    17. 10:22 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
    18. 10:58 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Randy Lervold)
    19. 11:15 AM - emergency fuel cap (Greg Milner)
    20. 11:18 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Kathleen (rv7))
    21. 11:55 AM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Don Mack)
    22. 12:42 PM - Re: Boeing Quick Change Chuck (Cleaveland Aircraft Tool)
    23. 01:56 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Laird Owens)
    24. 02:32 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Laird Owens)
    25. 03:30 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Vanremog@aol.com)
    26. 03:30 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Kathleen (rv7))
    27. 05:08 PM - Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit (Doug Rozendaal)
    28. 06:15 PM - Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit (Kathleen (rv7))
    29. 06:24 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Gary Zilik)
    30. 06:30 PM - Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit (Fred Kunkel)
    31. 06:44 PM - Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit (Dj Merrill)
    32. 07:01 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Are Barstad)
    33. 07:06 PM - Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit (Alex Peterson)
    34. 07:15 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
    35. 07:26 PM - Re:Flight bag,was Travelling Tool bag (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
    36. 07:28 PM - Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit (Jerry Springer)
    37. 07:29 PM - Spinner woes (RVEIGHTA@aol.com)
    38. 08:00 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Jerry Grimmonpre)
    39. 10:39 PM - Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit (Fred Kunkel)
    40. 11:16 PM - Re: Traveling Tool Kit (Vanremog@aol.com)
    41. 11:46 PM - tool list (Wheeler North)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:18:15 AM PST US
    From: "qcbccgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "qcbccgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Note you have two types of plugs but not a plug wrench for either. Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > > "gotta have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make > > up a small traveling tool kit. > > My kit is pretty simple and is still being developed over time. I bring it > everywhere I go, regardless of how far I'm travelling. > > - small first aid kit > - spare screws, washers, and nuts of all sizes > - spare fuses of all ratings used > - cotter pins of various sizes > - about 4' of .032" safety wire > - tie wraps > - 1x new UREM37BY spark plug > - copper crush washers for spark plugs > - 4x automotive plugs > - duct tape > - aluminum tape > - electrical tape > - masking tape > - heat wrap tape > - silicone tape > - sharpie marker > - small wire cutters > - Leatherman tool > - small retractable razor > - screwdrivers: > - 1 ratcheting w/bits > - 1 stubby Phillips > - 1 very small Phillips > - 1 very small flat head > - needle nose pliers > - 1/4" drive ratchet & sockets (1/4" thru 1/2") > - 1/4", 3/8", & 7/16" open end wrenches > - 5/16" nut driver > - small crescent wrench > - small flashlight > - fingerless gloves w/integrated lights > - rags > - oil spout adapter > - disposable paper funnels > - plastic cup > - small plastic part bin > > The whole thing maybe weighs 5 pounds and lives in a small duffel bag that I > keep behind my seat. > > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > >


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    Time: 05:24:09 AM PST US
    From: "Allen " <ajdubers@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Fixing Tank Leaks
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Allen " <ajdubers@comcast.net> I have used a 2 part epoxy from a company called Sta-C0 from Chicago. Applied outside on rivet heads it seals well, requires little prep and is not messy (sounds good doesn't it?). The problem is that I can't get Sta-Co to respond so I can get some more.... allen Allen Duberstein ajdubers@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Fixing Tank Leaks --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski --> <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Also apply what would be the equivalent of a patch over the hole with a piece of metal, works great. At 10:57 PM 6/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com > >Dwight; >I have used Pro-Seal from the outside and had good results with it. A >neighbor had a Toyota with a matchstem size hole in the bottom of the >tank. I used emery cloth to sand it, With fuel running out, and >applied pro-Seal liberally. > I had to pat the Pro-Seal back up as it would form a bubble with the weight >of the fuel. After 15-20 minutes it set up enough to stay in place and >stopped the leak. He drove the car for several more years. I have done >the same on >my wifes antique car and it worked OK. >I have fixed RV tank leaks by sanding with #40 grit and wash with MEK,then >apply Pro-Seal liberally. It will work. > > >Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X >A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor >Charleston,Arkansas >Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 06:53:57 AM PST US
    From: RV8ter@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com I'd add the o rings that seal the cylinder down at the brake pad and whatever it takes to remove the wheelpants and remove that piston and sealing 0-ring. On the day ours went out at Sun and Fun this year we turned out to be the 4th or 5th plane of the day in the experimental parking area that had this problem. So in the big scheme of things it must not be all that uncommon. We were stuck with only one brake working. We only didn't have to spend the night at lakeland this year becase we had brought with us the O-rings and most of the tools. The hydraulic fluid and pump were there and we borrowed it. Took off before the shut the field down by only a few minutes. Didn't bother putting the wheelpant back on until the next day.


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    Time: 07:10:07 AM PST US
    From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com My tag along tool kit resides in a mans shave kit zip bag. It has 2" velcro on the bottom, which attaches to the other half atop the tunnel in our RV-4.It has: A 1/4" drive ratchet with screwdriver & hex tips for all phillips and slotted screw sizes & sockets for 3/16" to 1/2". A multi tip liteweight screwdriver from Wal-Mart(very lite). A 6" Crescent wrench. a bit of safety wire. Pair of pliers. small aluminum angle chocks. Nylon tie-down ropes. 4 or 5 paper towels. Extra clips to hold the cowl hinge pins. 6 extra # 8 screws. 4 spare batteries for handheld GPS. tie-down rings Small vise grips. Cuyalume light sticks(Wrapped in amuminum foil for reflectors). My spare glasses. The bag could be a rain cap. It all weighs 3 pounds. Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor Charleston,Arkansas Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers


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    Time: 07:11:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> Good one. Where do you get the spare O-rings? - Larry Bowen, RV-8 in progress at 8A7... Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com RV8ter@aol.com said: > --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com > > I'd add the o rings that seal the cylinder down at the brake pad and > whatever it takes to remove the wheelpants and remove that piston and > sealing 0-ring. > > On the day ours went out at Sun and Fun this year we turned out to be the > 4th or 5th plane of the day in the experimental parking area that had this > problem. So in the big scheme of things it must not be all that uncommon. > We were stuck with only one brake working. > > We only didn't have to spend the night at lakeland this year becase we had > brought with us the O-rings and most of the tools. The hydraulic fluid > and pump were there and we borrowed it. Took off before the shut the > field down by only a few minutes. Didn't bother putting the wheelpant > back on until the next day. > >


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    Time: 07:15:46 AM PST US
    From: A20driver@aol.com
    Subject: Special RV for sale
    --> RV-List message posted by: A20driver@aol.com Note to everybody interested: Claudio Tonini is selling his super RV-4 ---- Purple Passion---- Anybody interested 732-673-5739 / CTonini @aol.com...... Jim Brown, RV-3 and 4....NJ


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    Time: 07:38:31 AM PST US
    From: Russell Johnson <entec1@pld.com>
    Subject: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage!
    --> RV-List message posted by: Russell Johnson <entec1@pld.com> Dear Customer! You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website! You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link: http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php2=35affv or by clicking the attached link. Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire! Best regards: SNAF.Team (R).


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    Time: 07:40:56 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
    Subject: Avionics Mounting Problems
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net> My local avionics shop has just completed the bench top wiring of a full GARMIN-AT IFR stack into my RV7A panel subassembly. The panel was CNC cut and all trays mounted flush and square with the front face of the panel. The side attachment supports are .063 extruded aluminum angles. All racks are tied together with additional side straps as well as a full surround support at the rear subpanel (the 3 firewall braces are installed as well). The assembly appears to be very solid. THE PROBLEM: When any individual device is installed with no other devices installed, that device works fine. When another device is installed as well, intermittent problems begin to occur. With all 5 devices installed, lots of problems. The shop explained this is very common and that ever so slight twisting or pressure exerted by installing several devices at a time will cause this to happen, and that once the assembly is mounted in the plane, I will need to manipulate each tray by filing the panel openings, loosening and retightening mounting screws, bracing, etc., until all devices work together. Since this seemed incredulous to me, I checked with the Garmin technical service rep who confirmed this is an everyday occurrence. The trays must be "tweaked" so that all of the rear pin connectors line up perfectly. THE QUESTION: Can anyone share their experiences in dealing with this "common occurrence" and best way to proceed before I start hacking away? Thank you, Scott Diffenbaugh RV7A diff@foothill.net


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    Time: 07:43:52 AM PST US
    Subject: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage!
    From: "Rabaut, Chuck" <Chuck.Rabaut@fresnosheriff.org>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Rabaut, Chuck" <Chuck.Rabaut@fresnosheriff.org> Hey Matt, Looks like one scurried in. Do Not Archive !!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Russell Johnson Subject: RV-List: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! --> RV-List message posted by: Russell Johnson <entec1@pld.com> Dear Customer! You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website! You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link: http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php2=35affv or by clicking the attached link. Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire! Best regards: SNAF.Team (R).


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    Time: 07:52:54 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > Note you have two types of plugs but not a plug wrench for either. Yep...good point. 8-) I had assumed that if I get stuck somewhere somebody on the field will have a spark plug wrench, but I shouldn't assume that. I forgot to mention I also carry spare fuel cap pins (but no spare fuel cap). do not archive )_( Dan


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    Time: 08:07:08 AM PST US
    From: Russell Johnson <entec1@pld.com>
    Subject: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage!
    --> RV-List message posted by: Russell Johnson <entec1@pld.com> Dear Customer! You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website! You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link: http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php2=35affv or by clicking the attached link. Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire! Best regards: SNAF.Team (R).


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    Time: 08:29:29 AM PST US
    From: "Dr. Peter Laurence" <dr.laurence@mbdi.org>
    Subject: Re: Avionics Mounting Problems
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Peter Laurence" <dr.laurence@mbdi.org> Scott This is so. I recently helped a friend place his panel in a Velocity XL RG. We had to "tweak" the warp out of a case so that the pins would line up. Peter > > THE QUESTION: Can anyone share their experiences in dealing with this > "common occurrence" and best way to proceed before I start hacking away? > > Thank you, > > Scott Diffenbaugh RV7A > diff@foothill.net > >


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    Time: 08:50:54 AM PST US
    From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> Duck "quack" Tape works for fuel a fuel cap...... BTDT Doug "don't assume the lineboy locked your fuel caps" Rozendaal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > > Note you have two types of plugs but not a plug wrench for either. > > Yep...good point. 8-) I had assumed that if I get stuck somewhere somebody > on the field will have a spark plug wrench, but I shouldn't assume that. > > I forgot to mention I also carry spare fuel cap pins (but no spare fuel > cap). > > do not archive > )_( Dan > >


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    Time: 08:56:38 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: Avionics Mounting Problems
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> With all the simple, high quality, 99.99% guaranteed to work, connectors out there I find this totally unacceptable........Sometimes "aircraft quality" amazes me. Needless to say everything in my basic VFR panel worked the first time with no tweaking. At 11:28 AM 6/15/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Peter Laurence" <dr.laurence@mbdi.org> > >Scott > >This is so. > >I recently helped a friend place his panel in a Velocity XL RG. > >We had to "tweak" the warp out of a case so that the pins would line up. > > >Peter > > > > > THE QUESTION: Can anyone share their experiences in dealing with >this > > "common occurrence" and best way to proceed before I start hacking away? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Scott Diffenbaugh RV7A > > diff@foothill.net > > > > > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 09:27:33 AM PST US
    From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> Dan and all, Be sure to tie that 5lb tool bag down securely in the back. It can become quite the projectile in the event of an off field landing. One local pilot was killed in a survivable landing when the tool box he had in the airplane hit him in the back of the head as the airplane flipped over. His wife survived the accident with minor injuries. Be careful out there. Laird On Jun 14, 2004, at 10:55 PM, Dan Checkoway wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > >> "gotta have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make >> up a small traveling tool kit. > > My kit is pretty simple and is still being developed over time. I > bring it > everywhere I go, regardless of how far I'm travelling. > > - small first aid kit > - spare screws, washers, and nuts of all sizes > - spare fuses of all ratings used > - cotter pins of various sizes > - about 4' of .032" safety wire > - tie wraps > - 1x new UREM37BY spark plug > - copper crush washers for spark plugs > - 4x automotive plugs > - duct tape > - aluminum tape > - electrical tape > - masking tape > - heat wrap tape > - silicone tape > - sharpie marker > - small wire cutters > - Leatherman tool > - small retractable razor > - screwdrivers: > - 1 ratcheting w/bits > - 1 stubby Phillips > - 1 very small Phillips > - 1 very small flat head > - needle nose pliers > - 1/4" drive ratchet & sockets (1/4" thru 1/2") > - 1/4", 3/8", & 7/16" open end wrenches > - 5/16" nut driver > - small crescent wrench > - small flashlight > - fingerless gloves w/integrated lights > - rags > - oil spout adapter > - disposable paper funnels > - plastic cup > - small plastic part bin > > The whole thing maybe weighs 5 pounds and lives in a small duffel bag > that I > keep behind my seat. > > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 09:45:37 AM PST US
    From: RV8ter@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com carry an extra fuel cap.


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    Time: 10:22:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Traveling Tool Kit
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> I would add: Exhaust man gasket & 2 nuts & washers(they are coarse thread). After landing at SnF 04, I found my exhaust hanging down below the studs. A whipped out my tool kit and to everyones total amazement, I had a gasket and nuts with washers. I have had enough gaskets blow over the years to carry em with nuts. You will loose more ex gaskets than brake seals. Mike Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Medema Subject: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Medema" <dmedema@att.net> Hi all, Father's day is here and I told my family I would come up with a list of tools to make up a tool kit I would keep in the plane. I know lot's of you keep some tools with you, so let's hit the keyboards and either email me or to the list with a list of "gotta have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make up a small traveling tool kit. Thanks, Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM. --- == == == ==


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    Time: 10:58:46 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> And one last thing that Laird reminded me of... you might want to tape an extra key inside your cowl or some other secret spot in case you lose your key while at OSH. Been there, done that. Randy Lervold > --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> > > Dan and all, > > Be sure to tie that 5lb tool bag down securely in the back. It can > become quite the projectile in the event of an off field landing. > > One local pilot was killed in a survivable landing when the tool box he > had in the airplane hit him in the back of the head as the airplane > flipped over. His wife survived the accident with minor injuries. > > Be careful out there. > > Laird


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    Time: 11:15:34 AM PST US
    From: "Greg Milner" <tldrgred@execpc.com>
    Subject: emergency fuel cap
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Milner" <tldrgred@execpc.com> you can use a 2in. PVC end cap from home depot aviation supply. it`s a jam fit and stays by itself (don`t ask how I know)


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    Time: 11:18:18 AM PST US
    From: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us>
    Subject: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> GEEZ -- Aren't you guys forgetting a couple extra cylinders, maybe a crank seal and, oh, don't forget an extra alternator. As for me, I'm adding a spare tire to the list, but I'm struggling with what size air compressor to install. Any suggestions? Truth is, no matter how much stuff you pack into that light airplane you built, there is always something you didn't anticipate that can keep you stuck somewhere. You might spend years carrying around 10 pounds of extra junk and only really need the things you don't have. Mostly things fall off the airplane because it wasn't adequately maintained or preflighted. I think I'll stick with better maintenance and only carry the minimum tools and very light weight extras. But ya all did get folks thinking about all those things that could break... Kathleen, www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) Subject: RE: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> <mstewart@iss.net> I would add: Exhaust man gasket & 2 nuts & washers(they are coarse thread). After landing at SnF 04, I found my exhaust hanging down below the studs. A whipped out my tool kit and to everyones total amazement, I had a gasket and nuts with washers. I have had enough gaskets blow over the years to carry em with nuts. You will loose more ex gaskets than brake seals. Mike Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Medema Subject: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Medema" <dmedema@att.net> Hi all, Father's day is here and I told my family I would come up with a list of tools to make up a tool kit I would keep in the plane. I know lot's of you keep some tools with you, so let's hit the keyboards and either email me or to the list with a list of "gotta have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make up a small traveling tool kit. Thanks, Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM. --- == == == == advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 11:55:10 AM PST US
    From: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
    Subject: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net> You all forgot the most important tool. Mastercard. Do not archive --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Medema" <dmedema@att.net> Hi all, Father's day is here and I told my family I would come up with a list of tools to make up a tool kit I would keep in the plane. I know lot's of you keep some tools with you, so let's hit the keyboards and either email me or to the list with a list of "gotta have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make up a small traveling tool kit. Thanks, Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM. ---


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    Time: 12:42:18 PM PST US
    From: "Cleaveland Aircraft Tool" <mail@cleavelandtool.com>
    Subject: Boeing Quick Change Chuck
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Cleaveland Aircraft Tool" <mail@cleavelandtool.com> We have been selling the Boeing Quick change system to RV builders for over 10 years. While some think it is expensive (about $140 to make the conversion including the chuck). Everyone that uses it swears by it. It will save hundreds of hours in changing tools and looking for the chuck key. The adapters that we sell let you use standard drill bits, countersinks, and other tooling in the quick change chuck. In addition the chucks are smaller and can get into tighter places. Many builders use multiple drills to avoid tool changes, which makes $140 seem cheap. Feel free to call or e-mail directly if anyone has questions. Mike Mike Lauritsen Cleaveland Aircraft Tool 2225 First St. Boone, IA 50036 800-368-1822 Mike@CleavelandTool.com www.cleavelandtool.com ----------------------- tx_jayhawk@excite.com writes: Does anyone out there know anything about "Boeing Quick Change Drill Chucks"? ----------------------- --> RV-List message posted by: BrownTool@aol.com You will probably be better off and much happier removing the Boeing Style Quick Change Chuck from your Dotco Drill and installing a Jacobs standard or keyless chuck. The Boeing Quick Change system has been around for well over 15 years now, and there is a reason it has not migrated to the rest of the industry including the home-built market ---- it is extremely expensive! Boeing and all of the other big manufacturers are willing to pay the cost of the system beacause it shaves thousands of man hours from an aircraft assembly. On smaller aircraft, or projects, the Boeing Quick Change System does not make economic sense. The cost of Boeing Style Quick Change Drills is 3-4 times the cost of standard drills.


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    Time: 01:56:31 PM PST US
    From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> You really had to be there to see the panicked look on Randy's face when he realized he lost the key to his locked RV-8......I couldn't help but laugh....sorry Randy :-) Laird Do Not archive On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Randy Lervold wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> > > And one last thing that Laird reminded me of... you might want to tape > an > extra key inside your cowl or some other secret spot in case you lose > your > key while at OSH. Been there, done that. > > Randy Lervold > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> >> >> Dan and all, >> >> Be sure to tie that 5lb tool bag down securely in the back. It can >> become quite the projectile in the event of an off field landing. >> >> One local pilot was killed in a survivable landing when the tool box >> he >> had in the airplane hit him in the back of the head as the airplane >> flipped over. His wife survived the accident with minor injuries. >> >> Be careful out there. >> >> Laird > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 02:32:18 PM PST US
    From: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> Kathleen, You laugh, but when you travel as much in your RV as some of us "old timers(..or is that "high timers") things break, and these are the things you experience. I've had a flat tire at a place where no help was available.....that sucks. Now I carry a can of fix-a-flat. If Paul Rosales hadn't had a spare package of brake O-rings in his tool kit, one of our guys wouldn't have made to the final destination (Idaho) on one of our group trips.....we've had starter solenoids fail, and Paul had one of those. Another friend carries a Hall pickup for Rose ignitions.....because he's had them fail. Someone forgot to secure a fuel cap....I had one of those. On our last trip to the Bahamas, I DID take a spare tire...and everything I needed to change it by myself. As far as an air-compressor....I took a bike tire pump. YMMV. I carry most if not all the same stuff as Dan, and I feel I can fix 95% of the stuff that will "get you". Don't think that you'll be better at maintenance then the rest of us. We all take very good care of our airplanes. Of course, if you fly with people who carry all that stuff, you can borrow it from them......but you (or someone your flying wiith) will probably need them someday. Regards, Laird RV-6 (950hrs from SoCal to the Bahamas twice and everywhere else in between) On Jun 15, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Kathleen (rv7) wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> > > GEEZ -- Aren't you guys forgetting a couple extra cylinders, maybe a > crank > seal and, oh, don't forget an extra alternator. As for me, I'm adding > a > spare tire to the list, but I'm struggling with what size air > compressor to > install. Any suggestions? > > Truth is, no matter how much stuff you pack into that light airplane > you > built, there is always something you didn't anticipate that can keep > you > stuck somewhere. You might spend years carrying around 10 pounds of > extra > junk and only really need the things you don't have. > > Mostly things fall off the airplane because it wasn't adequately > maintained > or preflighted. I think I'll stick with better maintenance and only > carry > the minimum tools and very light weight extras. > > But ya all did get folks thinking about all those things that could > break... > > Kathleen, > www.rv7.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, > Michael > (ISS Atlanta) > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" > --> <mstewart@iss.net> > > I would add: > Exhaust man gasket & 2 nuts & washers(they are coarse thread). > After landing at SnF 04, I found my exhaust hanging down below the > studs. > A whipped out my tool kit and to everyones total amazement, I had a > gasket > and nuts with washers. I have had enough gaskets blow over the years to > carry em with nuts. > You will loose more ex gaskets than brake seals. > > Mike > Do not archive. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Medema > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Medema" <dmedema@att.net> > > Hi all, > > Father's day is here and I told my family I would come up with a list > of > tools to make up a tool kit I would keep in the plane. > I know lot's of you keep some tools with you, so let's hit the > keyboards and > either email me or to the list with a list of "gotta have" or "sure > wish I > woulda had" tools that would make up a small traveling tool kit. > > Thanks, > Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM. > > --- > > > == > == > == > == > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 03:30:06 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 6/15/2004 7:12:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Larry@bowenaero.com writes: Where do you get the spare O-rings? ================================== Ace Seal in Santa Clara, CA is one place. Look in the archives for my posting on the P/Ns. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 701 hrs; last trip, Sedona)


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    Time: 03:30:06 PM PST US
    From: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us>
    Subject: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> OK, OK, before I get one more (up to 6 now) off list emails explaining how all the items everyone has mentioned are deathly important and telling me how I just don't understand, PLEASE -- everyone take a deep breath. Yes, I do carry tools and belts and extra parts in my current planes and will in my RV. No, I don't need more information on why it's important. Guess what! I was just having fun. And, it's even more fun to sit back and see how many folks don't get it. On the serious side, one should take some basics from air-sick bags for passengers to simple tools and spare parts, but for those of you who think you can get to the point that you will have whatever is needed in any circumstance, well, I wish you the best of luck. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laird Owens Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit --> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> Kathleen, You laugh, but when you travel as much in your RV as some of us "old timers(..or is that "high timers") things break, and these are the things you experience. I've had a flat tire at a place where no help was available.....that sucks. Now I carry a can of fix-a-flat. If Paul Rosales hadn't had a spare package of brake O-rings in his tool kit, one of our guys wouldn't have made to the final destination (Idaho) on one of our group trips.....we've had starter solenoids fail, and Paul had one of those. Another friend carries a Hall pickup for Rose ignitions.....because he's had them fail. Someone forgot to secure a fuel cap....I had one of those. On our last trip to the Bahamas, I DID take a spare tire...and everything I needed to change it by myself. As far as an air-compressor....I took a bike tire pump. YMMV. I carry most if not all the same stuff as Dan, and I feel I can fix 95% of the stuff that will "get you". Don't think that you'll be better at maintenance then the rest of us. We all take very good care of our airplanes. Of course, if you fly with people who carry all that stuff, you can borrow it from them......but you (or someone your flying wiith) will probably need them someday. Regards, Laird RV-6 (950hrs from SoCal to the Bahamas twice and everywhere else in between) On Jun 15, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Kathleen (rv7) wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> > > GEEZ -- Aren't you guys forgetting a couple extra cylinders, maybe a > crank seal and, oh, don't forget an extra alternator. As for me, I'm > adding a spare tire to the list, but I'm struggling with what size air > compressor to install. Any suggestions? > > Truth is, no matter how much stuff you pack into that light airplane > you built, there is always something you didn't anticipate that can > keep you stuck somewhere. You might spend years carrying around 10 > pounds of extra junk and only really need the things you don't have. > > Mostly things fall off the airplane because it wasn't adequately > maintained or preflighted. I think I'll stick with better maintenance > and only carry the minimum tools and very light weight extras. > > But ya all did get folks thinking about all those things that could > break... > > Kathleen, > www.rv7.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, > Michael (ISS Atlanta) > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" > --> <mstewart@iss.net> > > I would add: > Exhaust man gasket & 2 nuts & washers(they are coarse thread). > After landing at SnF 04, I found my exhaust hanging down below the > studs. > A whipped out my tool kit and to everyones total amazement, I had a > gasket and nuts with washers. I have had enough gaskets blow over the > years to carry em with nuts. > You will loose more ex gaskets than brake seals. > > Mike > Do not archive. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Medema > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Medema" <dmedema@att.net> > > Hi all, > > Father's day is here and I told my family I would come up with a list > of tools to make up a tool kit I would keep in the plane. > I know lot's of you keep some tools with you, so let's hit the > keyboards and either email me or to the list with a list of "gotta > have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make up a small > traveling tool kit. > > Thanks, > Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM. > > --- > > > == > == > == > == > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > > _- > ====================================================================== > > _- > ====================================================================== > > _- > ====================================================================== > > _- > ====================================================================== > > > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 05:08:44 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
    Subject: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> Since Kathleen has a sense of humor, and we have not had a good barnburner like T/W vs Trike, or 3pt vs wheelies, or a good primer discussion, I thought why not add a new one to the list of red hot issues on the RV-list, Flight bag contents!!! This should warm things up a bit!!! People get personal about all the "must haves" so this should be fun! I see people arrive at airplanes with flight bags that look like duffel bags. Some flight bags have every gadget in the Sportys catalog, and weigh in at about 40 pounds. Sorry folks, but in my experience, the size of the flight bag is usually inversely proportional to the experience of the pilot. So in the interest of a spirited discussion (Yippee!!) I offer my flight bag contents. For warbird flying, my flight bag is a G.I. Helmet bag. In it either a helmet or a headset, or both, depending on the mission. An MBU-12P Oxygen mask. An impedance converter for civil radios. A small kneeboard. Howie Keefe's Air Chart As appropriate. NOS approach plates if needed go in the side pockets of the Helmet bag. I also have a small black fanny pack in the helmet bag. For flights in my own airplane all I take is the fanny pack, the charts have a home in the airplane. Charts and headset stay in the plane. The fanny pack has an old Lowrance GPS, the little one, a 6" needle nose vice grip, a 6" red Endres screwdriver that has a flip shaft in it with a flip bit in each end. 6 AA batteries & 1-9V, 4 AAs for the GPS and 2 for the flashlight or the CD player, and the 9v for my noise cancelling headset. A "AA" size Mag light. A Sharpie for signing autographs at airshows, a ball point pen, a couple flight suit name tags, some politically incorrect. Ear plugs, a small bottle of sunscreen, a pad of checks, and a small bundle of business cards. The fanny pack is always within reach in the cockpit. Not in the fanny pack but always with me is a cellphone. That covers for a handheld. There, that should be enough kindling to get a good fire going, anyone got a match? Tailwinds, Doug Rozendaal


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    Time: 06:15:29 PM PST US
    From: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us>
    Subject: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> Alright, I'm in and I raise you one AA size Maglight (yes, 2 in all) and a small stick-type lipstick (you never know who you're gonna meet out there). Anyone want to add a stack of sectionals covering the lower 48? Kathleen www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Rozendaal Subject: RV-List: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> Since Kathleen has a sense of humor, and we have not had a good barnburner like T/W vs Trike, or 3pt vs wheelies, or a good primer discussion, I thought why not add a new one to the list of red hot issues on the RV-list, Flight bag contents!!! This should warm things up a bit!!! People get personal about all the "must haves" so this should be fun! I see people arrive at airplanes with flight bags that look like duffel bags. Some flight bags have every gadget in the Sportys catalog, and weigh in at about 40 pounds. Sorry folks, but in my experience, the size of the flight bag is usually inversely proportional to the experience of the pilot. So in the interest of a spirited discussion (Yippee!!) I offer my flight bag contents. For warbird flying, my flight bag is a G.I. Helmet bag. In it either a helmet or a headset, or both, depending on the mission. An MBU-12P Oxygen mask. An impedance converter for civil radios. A small kneeboard. Howie Keefe's Air Chart As appropriate. NOS approach plates if needed go in the side pockets of the Helmet bag. I also have a small black fanny pack in the helmet bag. For flights in my own airplane all I take is the fanny pack, the charts have a home in the airplane. Charts and headset stay in the plane. The fanny pack has an old Lowrance GPS, the little one, a 6" needle nose vice grip, a 6" red Endres screwdriver that has a flip shaft in it with a flip bit in each end. 6 AA batteries & 1-9V, 4 AAs for the GPS and 2 for the flashlight or the CD player, and the 9v for my noise cancelling headset. A "AA" size Mag light. A Sharpie for signing autographs at airshows, a ball point pen, a couple flight suit name tags, some politically incorrect. Ear plugs, a small bottle of sunscreen, a pad of checks, and a small bundle of business cards. The fanny pack is always within reach in the cockpit. Not in the fanny pack but always with me is a cellphone. That covers for a handheld. There, that should be enough kindling to get a good fire going, anyone got a match? Tailwinds, Doug Rozendaal advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 06:24:20 PM PST US
    From: Gary Zilik <zilik@direcpc.com>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik <zilik@direcpc.com> I for one caught the humor in your post. I was going to suggest that a dual stage 10hp compressor would be best suited for the tool bag. You have to be able to run all the air tools that you pack. Z and please do not archive Kathleen (rv7) wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> > >OK, OK, before I get one more (up to 6 now) off list emails explaining how >all the items everyone has mentioned are deathly important and telling me >how I just don't understand, PLEASE -- everyone take a deep breath. Yes, I >do carry tools and belts and extra parts in my current planes and will in my >RV. No, I don't need more information on why it's important. Guess what! >I was just having fun. And, it's even more fun to sit back and see how many >folks don't get it. > >On the serious side, one should take some basics from air-sick bags for >passengers to simple tools and spare parts, but for those of you who think >you can get to the point that you will have whatever is needed in any >circumstance, well, I wish you the best of luck. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laird Owens >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > >--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> > >Kathleen, > >You laugh, but when you travel as much in your RV as some of us "old >timers(..or is that "high timers") things break, and these are the things >you experience. > >I've had a flat tire at a place where no help was available.....that sucks. >Now I carry a can of fix-a-flat. If Paul Rosales hadn't had a spare package >of brake O-rings in his tool kit, one of our guys wouldn't have made to the >final destination (Idaho) on one of our group >trips.....we've had starter solenoids fail, and Paul had one of those. >Another friend carries a Hall pickup for Rose ignitions.....because he's had >them fail. Someone forgot to secure a fuel cap....I had one of those. On >our last trip to the Bahamas, I DID take a spare tire...and everything I >needed to change it by myself. As far as an air-compressor....I took a bike >tire pump. YMMV. > >I carry most if not all the same stuff as Dan, and I feel I can fix 95% of >the stuff that will "get you". Don't think that you'll be better at >maintenance then the rest of us. We all take very good care of our >airplanes. > >Of course, if you fly with people who carry all that stuff, you can borrow >it from them......but you (or someone your flying wiith) will probably need >them someday. > >Regards, > >Laird RV-6 (950hrs from SoCal to the Bahamas twice and everywhere else in >between) > > >On Jun 15, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Kathleen (rv7) wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> >> >>GEEZ -- Aren't you guys forgetting a couple extra cylinders, maybe a >>crank seal and, oh, don't forget an extra alternator. As for me, I'm >>adding a spare tire to the list, but I'm struggling with what size air >>compressor to install. Any suggestions? >> >>Truth is, no matter how much stuff you pack into that light airplane >>you built, there is always something you didn't anticipate that can >>keep you stuck somewhere. You might spend years carrying around 10 >>pounds of extra junk and only really need the things you don't have. >> >>Mostly things fall off the airplane because it wasn't adequately >>maintained or preflighted. I think I'll stick with better maintenance >>and only carry the minimum tools and very light weight extras. >> >>But ya all did get folks thinking about all those things that could >>break... >> >>Kathleen, >>www.rv7.us >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, >>Michael (ISS Atlanta) >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" >>--> <mstewart@iss.net> >> >>I would add: >>Exhaust man gasket & 2 nuts & washers(they are coarse thread). >>After landing at SnF 04, I found my exhaust hanging down below the >>studs. >>A whipped out my tool kit and to everyones total amazement, I had a >>gasket and nuts with washers. I have had enough gaskets blow over the >>years to carry em with nuts. >>You will loose more ex gaskets than brake seals. >> >>Mike >>Do not archive. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Medema >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Medema" <dmedema@att.net> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Father's day is here and I told my family I would come up with a list >>of tools to make up a tool kit I would keep in the plane. >>I know lot's of you keep some tools with you, so let's hit the >>keyboards and either email me or to the list with a list of "gotta >>have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make up a small >>traveling tool kit. >> >>Thanks, >>Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM. >> >>--- >> >> >>== >>== >>== >>== >> >> >>advertising on the Matronics Forums. >> >> >>_- >>====================================================================== >> >> >>>_- >>> >>> >>====================================================================== >> >> >>>_- >>> >>> >>====================================================================== >> >> >>>_- >>> >>> >>====================================================================== >> >> >> >> > > >advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > > >


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    Time: 06:30:03 PM PST US
    From: "Fred Kunkel" <rvator@socal.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Kunkel" <rvator@socal.rr.com> Put a signal mirror in the flight bag. Best communications device ever invented when you need it - hopefully never! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> Subject: RV-List: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit > --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> > > Since Kathleen has a sense of humor, and we have not had a good barnburner > like T/W vs Trike, or 3pt vs wheelies, or a good primer discussion, I > thought why not add a new one to the list of red hot issues on the RV-list, > Flight bag contents!!! This should warm things up a bit!!! People get > personal about all the "must haves" so this should be fun! > > I see people arrive at airplanes with flight bags that look like duffel > bags. Some flight bags have every gadget in the Sportys catalog, and weigh > in at about 40 pounds. Sorry folks, but in my experience, the size of the > flight bag is usually inversely proportional to the experience of the pilot. > > So in the interest of a spirited discussion (Yippee!!) I offer my flight bag > contents. > For warbird flying, my flight bag is a G.I. Helmet bag. In it either a > helmet or a headset, or both, depending on the mission. An MBU-12P Oxygen > mask. An impedance converter for civil radios. A small kneeboard. Howie > Keefe's Air Chart As appropriate. NOS approach plates if needed go in the > side pockets of the Helmet bag. I also have a small black fanny pack in the > helmet bag. > > For flights in my own airplane all I take is the fanny pack, the charts have > a home in the airplane. Charts and headset stay in the plane. The fanny > pack has an old Lowrance GPS, the little one, a 6" needle nose vice grip, a > 6" red Endres screwdriver that has a flip shaft in it with a flip bit in > each end. 6 AA batteries & 1-9V, 4 AAs for the GPS and 2 for the flashlight > or the CD player, and the 9v for my noise cancelling headset. A "AA" size > Mag light. A Sharpie for signing autographs at airshows, a ball point pen, > a couple flight suit name tags, some politically incorrect. Ear plugs, a > small bottle of sunscreen, a pad of checks, and a small bundle of business > cards. The fanny pack is always within reach in the cockpit. Not in the > fanny pack but always with me is a cellphone. That covers for a handheld. > > There, that should be enough kindling to get a good fire going, anyone got a > match? > > Tailwinds, > Doug Rozendaal > >


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    Time: 06:44:33 PM PST US
    From: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
    Subject: Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu> Kathleen (rv7) wrote: > Anyone want to add a stack of sectionals covering the lower 48? Does the Airchart VFR atlas count (covers eastern half of US)? :-) -Dj


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    Time: 07:01:59 PM PST US
    From: "Are Barstad" <are_barstad@norlogic.com>
    Subject: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Are Barstad" <are_barstad@norlogic.com> do not archive I used to work as an avionics/airframe/engine tech. + ground support on Catalina's (PBY's) in northern Ontario. When I asked our veteran pilot what he wanted me to pack for his emergency box for a ferry flight to Australia he replied: "a case of beer and a can of sardines" So there ya go Are :) RV-8 - Wings www.ontariorvators.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gary Zilik Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik <zilik@direcpc.com> I for one caught the humor in your post. I was going to suggest that a dual stage 10hp compressor would be best suited for the tool bag. You have to be able to run all the air tools that you pack. Z and please do not archive Kathleen (rv7) wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> > >OK, OK, before I get one more (up to 6 now) off list emails explaining how >all the items everyone has mentioned are deathly important and telling me >how I just don't understand, PLEASE -- everyone take a deep breath. Yes, I >do carry tools and belts and extra parts in my current planes and will in my >RV. No, I don't need more information on why it's important. Guess what! >I was just having fun. And, it's even more fun to sit back and see how many >folks don't get it. > >On the serious side, one should take some basics from air-sick bags for >passengers to simple tools and spare parts, but for those of you who think >you can get to the point that you will have whatever is needed in any >circumstance, well, I wish you the best of luck. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laird Owens >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > >--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com> > >Kathleen, > >You laugh, but when you travel as much in your RV as some of us "old >timers(..or is that "high timers") things break, and these are the things >you experience. > >I've had a flat tire at a place where no help was available.....that sucks. >Now I carry a can of fix-a-flat. If Paul Rosales hadn't had a spare package >of brake O-rings in his tool kit, one of our guys wouldn't have made to the >final destination (Idaho) on one of our group >trips.....we've had starter solenoids fail, and Paul had one of those. >Another friend carries a Hall pickup for Rose ignitions.....because he's had >them fail. Someone forgot to secure a fuel cap....I had one of those. On >our last trip to the Bahamas, I DID take a spare tire...and everything I >needed to change it by myself. As far as an air-compressor....I took a bike >tire pump. YMMV. > >I carry most if not all the same stuff as Dan, and I feel I can fix 95% of >the stuff that will "get you". Don't think that you'll be better at >maintenance then the rest of us. We all take very good care of our >airplanes. > >Of course, if you fly with people who carry all that stuff, you can borrow >it from them......but you (or someone your flying wiith) will probably need >them someday. > >Regards, > >Laird RV-6 (950hrs from SoCal to the Bahamas twice and everywhere else in >between) > > >On Jun 15, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Kathleen (rv7) wrote: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> >> >>GEEZ -- Aren't you guys forgetting a couple extra cylinders, maybe a >>crank seal and, oh, don't forget an extra alternator. As for me, I'm >>adding a spare tire to the list, but I'm struggling with what size air >>compressor to install. Any suggestions? >> >>Truth is, no matter how much stuff you pack into that light airplane >>you built, there is always something you didn't anticipate that can >>keep you stuck somewhere. You might spend years carrying around 10 >>pounds of extra junk and only really need the things you don't have. >> >>Mostly things fall off the airplane because it wasn't adequately >>maintained or preflighted. I think I'll stick with better maintenance >>and only carry the minimum tools and very light weight extras. >> >>But ya all did get folks thinking about all those things that could >>break... >> >>Kathleen, >>www.rv7.us >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, >>Michael (ISS Atlanta) >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" >>--> <mstewart@iss.net> >> >>I would add: >>Exhaust man gasket & 2 nuts & washers(they are coarse thread). >>After landing at SnF 04, I found my exhaust hanging down below the >>studs. >>A whipped out my tool kit and to everyones total amazement, I had a >>gasket and nuts with washers. I have had enough gaskets blow over the >>years to carry em with nuts. >>You will loose more ex gaskets than brake seals. >> >>Mike >>Do not archive. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Medema >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit >> >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Medema" <dmedema@att.net> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Father's day is here and I told my family I would come up with a list >>of tools to make up a tool kit I would keep in the plane. >>I know lot's of you keep some tools with you, so let's hit the >>keyboards and either email me or to the list with a list of "gotta >>have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make up a small >>traveling tool kit. >> >>Thanks, >>Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM. >> >>--- >> >> >>== >>== >>== >>== >> >> >>advertising on the Matronics Forums. >> >> >>_- >>====================================================================== >> >> >>>_- >>> >>> >>====================================================================== >> >> >>>_- >>> >>> >>====================================================================== >> >> >>>_- >>> >>> >>====================================================================== >> >> >> >> > > >advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ---


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    Time: 07:06:01 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Kunkel" <rvator@socal.rr.com> > > Put a signal mirror in the flight bag. Best communications > device ever invented when you need it - hopefully never! Fred, Fred, Fred. This isn't the movies, you know. The good guys aren't going to be looking your way at the right instant when you happen to find the sun and get just the exact angle for the mirror. Better would be to wait until night time and light off some fireworks. If that doesn't work, just torch the plane, someone will see it. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 483 hours http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 07:15:17 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com "a case of beer and a can of sardines" SURVIVAL kit must include: half-pint flask of Hiram Walker Apricot Brandy- if it survives the landing, it's the first thing you'll reach for- if not, you won't need it anyway... and pu-LEASE do not archive- Mark


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    Time: 07:26:25 PM PST US
    From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
    Subject: Re:Flight bag,was Travelling Tool bag
    --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com I read a description which said a flashlight is a storage container for dead batteries. I'll stick with my Cyalume Light Sticks(Wrapped in aluminum foil to use as reflectors). They don't even have batteries and can be used in explosive atmosphere,(Like plane on back and gas leaking) ! Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor Charleston,Arkansas Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers


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    Time: 07:28:59 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net> Alex Peterson wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Kunkel" <rvator@socal.rr.com> >> >>Put a signal mirror in the flight bag. Best communications >>device ever invented when you need it - hopefully never! >> >> > > >Fred, Fred, Fred. This isn't the movies, you know. The good guys >aren't going to be looking your way at the right instant when you happen >to find the sun and get just the exact angle for the mirror. Better >would be to wait until night time and light off some fireworks. If that >doesn't work, just torch the plane, someone will see it. > >Alex Peterson >Maple Grove, MN >RV6-A N66AP 483 hours > >http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ > > > > Alex, when I was in Vietnam those signal mirrors showed up really well during the day. I saw them used a couple times when I was overhead in Helicopter. do not archive


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    Time: 07:29:55 PM PST US
    From: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
    Subject: Spinner woes
    --> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com Guys, just noticed after approximately 110 hours flying time that I have cracks around the prop openings (I have a three blade prop) in my spinner.. The cracks are at the front of the openings where the fiberglass rests against the front bulkhead. Anyone had this problem? I'm considering a polished aluminum spinner, anyone know who carries them and price? Thanks, Walt Shipley RV-8A


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    Time: 08:00:35 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> Hi Shirley ... I just got home from my ex's where everyone celebrated Mark and Rebecca's birthday. Mark is 48 and Rebecca 12. Everyone is growing up except me and you. I thank you for doing this shopping for me ... you are a doll ... did you know that? I'll be happy with any color T-shirt because you know what ... it really doesn't matter about the color. I am blessed to have a friend like you. Thanks so much ... I'll keep an eye out for the package. Today I painted on about 3/4 of a gallon primer and it's going to be a grind doing all the nooks and crannies in this hangar but it'll look pure white and sharpe as a well painted place. I must go to bed now before it's time to get up. I'll be up at about 5 to hit it again and this will go on for several days ... just watch. Thankfully I have a real good painter to help me ... a pro at his work. God bless and kisses to you ... Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "qcbccgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > --> RV-List message posted by: "qcbccgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> > > Note you have two types of plugs but not a plug wrench for either. > Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair > Safety Programs Editor - TC > EAA Sport Pilot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Traveling Tool Kit > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > > > > "gotta have" or "sure wish I woulda had" tools that would make > > > up a small traveling tool kit. > > > > My kit is pretty simple and is still being developed over time. I bring > it > > everywhere I go, regardless of how far I'm travelling. > > > > - small first aid kit > > - spare screws, washers, and nuts of all sizes > > - spare fuses of all ratings used > > - cotter pins of various sizes > > - about 4' of .032" safety wire > > - tie wraps > > - 1x new UREM37BY spark plug > > - copper crush washers for spark plugs > > - 4x automotive plugs > > - duct tape > > - aluminum tape > > - electrical tape > > - masking tape > > - heat wrap tape > > - silicone tape > > - sharpie marker > > - small wire cutters > > - Leatherman tool > > - small retractable razor > > - screwdrivers: > > - 1 ratcheting w/bits > > - 1 stubby Phillips > > - 1 very small Phillips > > - 1 very small flat head > > - needle nose pliers > > - 1/4" drive ratchet & sockets (1/4" thru 1/2") > > - 1/4", 3/8", & 7/16" open end wrenches > > - 5/16" nut driver > > - small crescent wrench > > - small flashlight > > - fingerless gloves w/integrated lights > > - rags > > - oil spout adapter > > - disposable paper funnels > > - plastic cup > > - small plastic part bin > > > > The whole thing maybe weighs 5 pounds and lives in a small duffel bag that > I > > keep behind my seat. > > > > )_( Dan > > RV-7 N714D > > http://www.rvproject.com > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:39:09 PM PST US
    From: "Fred Kunkel" <rvator@socal.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Kunkel" <rvator@socal.rr.com> I appreciate the humor, but I flew 5 actual SAR missions where mirrors were used during the day. In the desert at 29 Palms, in the deep jungle of the Northern Training Area on Okinawa, in the high mountains at Bridgeport, CA, in the mountains in Korea, and when I picked up an F-15 jock out of the South China Sea in 8 foot swells. Two of the missions were on clear days, 3 were on partially overcast days. Granted, people were on the radios to us as well as using the mirrors and we were on a specific mission, but it amazed me every time when the light off the mirror showed up so bright from so far away under various conditions. You'd be surprised at the difficulty trying to find an individual &/or an aircraft on the ground even when you're specifically looking for them. If I remember correctly, the mirror was then rated as the #1 survival tool for pilots by the Military. Anyway, my experiences. Now, having said all that, I'm going to give those sardines some thought :). Blue Skies! Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: Flight bags, was Traveling Tool Kit > --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Fred Kunkel" <rvator@socal.rr.com> > > > > Put a signal mirror in the flight bag. Best communications > > device ever invented when you need it - hopefully never! > > > Fred, Fred, Fred. This isn't the movies, you know. The good guys > aren't going to be looking your way at the right instant when you happen > to find the sun and get just the exact angle for the mirror. Better > would be to wait until night time and light off some fireworks. If that > doesn't work, just torch the plane, someone will see it. > > Alex Peterson > Maple Grove, MN > RV6-A N66AP 483 hours > > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ > >


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    Time: 11:16:02 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Traveling Tool Kit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 6/15/2004 2:32:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owens@aerovironment.com writes: I've had a flat tire at a place where no help was available.....that sucks. Now I carry a can of fix-a-flat. If Paul Rosales hadn't had a spare package of brake O-rings in his tool kit, one of our guys wouldn't have made to the final destination (Idaho) on one of our group trips.....we've had starter solenoids fail, and Paul had one of those. Another friend carries a Hall pickup for Rose ignitions.....because he's had them fail. Someone forgot to secure a fuel cap....I had one of those. On our last trip to the Bahamas, I DID take a spare tire...and everything I needed to change it by myself. As far as an air-compressor....I took a bike tire pump. ============================ Laird is a good and smart guy and I agree with the admonition to carry a spare Skytec solenoid and a Hall pickup and anything thing else that is a common failure item, not mainstream aircraft issue and likely to be in stock at the out of the way FBO. As far as the lost fuel cap, well, that was pilot error and thus avoidable. Avoidable in the sense of you need to put it back on and also in the sense of we all know these cap pivot pins are JUNK and should be replaced with a solid pin if you want them to remain in one piece for any length of time. This is in the archives. The brake O-rings, yep, pilot error again. Why, you ask? Because the standard issue nitrile O-rings are just inferior when used at the calipers and any pilot worth his salt would just replace them now with Viton versions and be done with it. For tire repair, scooter outlets carry patch kits complete with inflation cartridges. Wish I had had one on Memorial Day when my nose gear tube lost it's mojo at Rio Vista. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 701 hrs; last trip, Sedona)


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    Time: 11:46:04 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    "'owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com '"@matronics.com
    Subject: tool list
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> Doug, Dan's list is pretty good, I have some additions. 1/4" wobbly sockets 1/4 thru 9/16, can be had at sears. All my sockets and wrenches go to 9/16, and 11/16 except for one stubby 7/8 to get to the plugs. whatever you need to lift and change a tire, spark plug and belt, (torque wrench can usually be borrowed) do most safetying, small wiring repairs, cheapo DVOM, some cash and a credit card. Although heavy, a spare fuel cap is not a bad idea either, although I think a 150kt tape patch would work in a pinch. rags, and several super LEDs type lights. A spare ignition key 1 qt of oil, 1 qt of water, and 1 qt of jon bottle. a working cell phone W




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