RV-List Digest Archive

Thu 06/17/04


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:53 AM - WTB RV 6/6A/7/7A (C P)
     2. 05:55 AM - Re: CCR-264SS-3-2 vs. MK319*BS (Alex Peterson)
     3. 06:58 AM - Re: Greasing rod end bearings (Charlie Kuss)
     4. 07:18 AM - Flight bags ()
     5. 07:41 AM - Re: mindless profiteering: was flight bag (Charlie Kuss)
     6. 07:59 AM - Re: CCR-264SS-3-2 vs. MK319*BS (Randy Lervold)
     7. 08:11 AM - Re: Flight bags (Dr. Leathers)
     8. 08:41 AM - Lightweight starter on ebay... (Bill VonDane)
     9. 10:31 AM - Re: mindless profiteering: was flight bag (Scott Vanartsdalen)
    10. 03:34 PM - Elevator horn travel limit (Richard Suffoletto)
    11. 03:43 PM - Tow bar ()
    12. 04:18 PM - Re: Elevator horn travel limit (Kathleen (rv7))
    13. 04:34 PM - Re: Elevator horn travel limit (Alex Peterson)
    14. 04:42 PM - Re: Elevator horn travel limit (Jerry Calvert)
    15. 04:44 PM - Re: Elevator horn travel limit (Kathleen (rv7))
    16. 05:43 PM - Re: Elevator horn travel limit (James Ashford)
    17. 08:16 PM - Re: Tow bar (Lwfeatherston@aol.com)
    18. 09:46 PM - Garmin/Navaid interface (Jim Anglin)
    19. 09:57 PM - Re: Replacement Viton Brake O-Rings (Vanremog@aol.com)
    20. 10:13 PM - Re: Elevator horn travel limit (Mickey Coggins)
    21. 11:22 PM - Re: Elevator horn travel limit (Dan Checkoway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:53:55 AM PST US
    From: C P <yankeerv10@yahoo.com>
    Subject: WTB RV 6/6A/7/7A
    --> RV-List message posted by: C P <yankeerv10@yahoo.com> Hi, A friend of mine I took to the New England wing of Van's Air Force fly-in last week is hot to trot to buy a 6/6A/7/7A! He was all set to buy his third Yak but fell in love with the RV's. Please, if you know of someone selling, pass on some contact info?! He's got cash burning a hole in his pocket! thanks, Chuck Packard YankeeRV10@yahoo.com __________________________________ http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo


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    Time: 05:55:45 AM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: CCR-264SS-3-2 vs. MK319*BS
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> > > When using a blind rivet to substitue for an AN426AD3-X flush > head rivet does anyone have a preference on these two > alternatives? The MK319 needs to be drilled out to 7/64" so > that's one negative from the get go. Which one lays more > flush and looks better? > > Randy Lervold > RV-3B, empennage What is the other alternative? Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 482 hours http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 06:58:04 AM PST US
    From: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Greasing rod end bearings
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> Mickey, I repack them with automotive wheel bearing grease. The female type joints can be easily re-packed. Remove the related rod, pack grease in the threaded hole of the joint and re-install the threaded rod. It will force the fresh grease into the Heim joint. Evidence of this will be seen as the original grease leaking out of the joint. Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > >Hi, > >What's the procedure for keeping the rod end bearings >well lubricated? They come with a bit of grease on >them, but should I try to pack them more? How often >do they need to be either re-greased or replaced? > >Thanks, >Mickey > >-- >Mickey Coggins >http://www.rv8.ch/ >#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage > >


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    Time: 07:18:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Flight bags
    From: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com> Dear Lord Man, what are you thinking? You forgot Corvettes. This is why red paint costs twice as much as the ugly colors. Eric >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kathleen, As long as the lipstick is Red, cause "airplanes, pickup trucks, and lipstick should all be Blood Red." Tailwinds, Doug


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    Time: 07:41:51 AM PST US
    From: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: mindless profiteering: was flight bag
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> Andy Pencil me in for one of those bags. I'll wait till a decent hour (your time) to call and give you my Credit Card info Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com> > >Mount Sanderson: That's what we call our mountain of overstocked Jeppesen >Flightbags in the corner of the warehouse. These are medium sized, nicely >constructed flightbags which normally sell for $40 or which are included as >part of the various Jeppesen pilot training and maintenance kits. They have >a main center section and a series of pouches on the outside for charts, >pens, flashlights, and other quick needed items. They are big enough to >store most of the spare parts and tools we've been talking about the last >couple days. (except maybe not Sam Buchanan's spare exhaust system). I've >got about fifty I can let go for $20. Write back off list in the next >couple days if you want one. > > >While I'm at it, I'm also way overstocked on CSG (E6B) manual flight >computers. These are the sliding computers that tell you wind correction >angles, density altitude, lots of conversions, and other in-flight >navigation problems. Most of us haven't used these since passing our check >rides, however if you still like them as a backup, I've got about twenty of >the nice metal kind I can sell for $20 each (half the normal retail). And, >if you don't remember how to use them, they do come with a manual. Write >back off list or call in the next couple of days if you want one > >Thanks for putting up with this mindless profiteering. > >Andy >Builder's Bookstore >http://www.buildersbooks.com >800 780-4115 > >


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    Time: 07:59:44 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
    Subject: Re: CCR-264SS-3-2 vs. MK319*BS
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> Alex, CCR-264SS-3-2 (it was in the subject line) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: CCR-264SS-3-2 vs. MK319*BS > --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> > > > > When using a blind rivet to substitue for an AN426AD3-X flush > > head rivet does anyone have a preference on these two > > alternatives? The MK319 needs to be drilled out to 7/64" so > > that's one negative from the get go. Which one lays more > > flush and looks better? > > > > Randy Lervold > > RV-3B, empennage > > What is the other alternative? > > Alex Peterson > Maple Grove, MN > RV6-A N66AP 482 hours > http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ > >


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    Time: 08:11:46 AM PST US
    From: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight bags
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com> I once owned a fleet of Oil Field Rig-up trucks. I had one of my Peterbuilt conventionals painted Porsche Guards Red, which is the deepest reddest red there is (IMHO). That truck would literally draw crowds anywhere it was parked. Tourists would take pictures of it. It was really something to see. I'll see if I can find a picture to scan and post. Doc ----- Original Message ----- From: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com> Subject: RV-List: Flight bags > --> RV-List message posted by: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com> > > > Dear Lord Man, what are you thinking? You forgot Corvettes. This is why red paint costs twice as much as the ugly colors. > > Eric > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Kathleen, > > As long as the lipstick is Red, cause "airplanes, pickup trucks, and > lipstick should all be Blood Red." > > Tailwinds, > Doug > >


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    Time: 08:41:40 AM PST US
    From: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: Lightweight starter on ebay...
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7904896043&category=33576 do not archive


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    Time: 10:31:25 AM PST US
    From: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: mindless profiteering: was flight bag
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> They are actually pretty nice bags. I got one as a thank you for donating to the RV-List. Lots of room for your must-haves. Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss Andy Pencil me in for one of those bags. I'll wait till a decent hour (your time) to call and give you my Credit Card info Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" > >Mount Sanderson: That's what we call our mountain of overstocked Jeppesen >Flightbags in the corner of the warehouse. These are medium sized, nicely >constructed flightbags which normally sell for $40 or which are included as >part of the various Jeppesen pilot training and maintenance kits. They have >a main center section and a series of pouches on the outside for charts, >pens, flashlights, and other quick needed items. They are big enough to >store most of the spare parts and tools we've been talking about the last >couple days. (except maybe not Sam Buchanan's spare exhaust system). I've >got about fifty I can let go for $20. Write back off list in the next >couple days if you want one. > > >While I'm at it, I'm also way overstocked on CSG (E6B) manual flight >computers. These are the sliding computers that tell you wind correction >angles, density altitude, lots of conversions, and other in-flight >navigation problems. Most of us haven't used these since passing our check >rides, however if you still like them as a backup, I've got about twenty of >the nice metal kind I can sell for $20 each (half the normal retail). And, >if you don't remember how to use them, they do come with a manual. Write >back off list or call in the next couple of days if you want one > >Thanks for putting up with this mindless profiteering. > >Andy >Builder's Bookstore >http://www.buildersbooks.com >800 780-4115 > > -- Scott VanArtsdalen RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!! When a man does all he can though it succeeds not well, blame not him that did it." -- George Washington


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    Time: 03:34:31 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Elevator horn travel limit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators because the most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it reaches the stop. ( 4 degrees short) Consequently taking anymore off the stop is not going to help. Is it OK to trim away some of the lower horn to get a few more degrees of travel? Anybody else run into this? Richard RV-7A QB Getting married? Find great tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events.


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    Time: 03:43:41 PM PST US
    From: <bertrv6@highstream.net>
    Subject: Tow bar
    --> RV-List message posted by: <bertrv6@highstream.net> Hi: Because of the incline on entrance to my hangar, I have a hard time getting the plane inside. I need to bouy one of those, gas, tow bars..What is the best place to buy one, it seems the ones on Sporty's are high to me... Any one have any idea, of companies, I can look into. it has to be for an rv6a.... Thanks for the help Bert rv6a Do not archive.


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    Time: 04:18:31 PM PST US
    From: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us>
    Subject: Elevator horn travel limit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> Are you sure your problem is with "up"? Normally, you must notch the HS-603PP flange to get adequate down travel, but I don't think there should be any interference with up travel. I wouldn't touch anything else until you figure out why your situation is unique. First, though, I'd look at it again. Remember, when the aileron travels up (up travel), the control arm (horn?) travels down. That's normally where the clearance problem is and where the trimming needs to take place. You might have to trim out 3/8" or so. Good luck, Kathleen, www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Suffoletto Subject: RV-List: Elevator horn travel limit --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" --> <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators because the most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it reaches the stop. ( 4 degrees short) Consequently taking anymore off the stop is not going to help. Is it OK to trim away some of the lower horn to get a few more degrees of travel? Anybody else run into this? Richard RV-7A QB Getting married? Find great tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 04:34:49 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Elevator horn travel limit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > > I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators > because the > most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it reaches the > stop. ( 4 > degrees short) Consequently taking anymore off the stop is > not going to > help. Is it OK to trim away some of the lower horn to get a > few more degrees > of travel? Anybody else run into this? > > > Richard Richard, I seem to recall that the aft end of one of the elevator horns on my plane needed to be trimmed for the exact issue you have. The left and right horns are typically not aligned well with one another, so IIRC only one needed to be trimmed. In my case, this was not builder adjustable - the weldments simply were off. Alex Peterson Maple Grove, MN RV6-A N66AP 482 hours http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 04:42:43 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Elevator horn travel limit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net> I had to trim the lower rear of the horn a little on my -6 because it contacted the rear bulkhead before the desired up elevator travel was reached. Jerry Calvert Edmond Ok N296JC RV6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> Subject: RV-List: Elevator horn travel limit > --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> > > > I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators because the most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it reaches the stop. ( 4 degrees short) Consequently taking anymore off the stop is not going to help. Is it OK to trim away some of the lower horn to get a few more degrees of travel? Anybody else run into this? > > > Richard > > > RV-7A QB > > > Getting married? Find great tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. > >


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    Time: 04:44:14 PM PST US
    From: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us>
    Subject: Elevator horn travel limit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us> OK, so I got myself confused with the "elevator goes up, horn goes down" thing. I still think you only need to notch out the HS-603PP.... Kathleen, www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Suffoletto Subject: RV-List: Elevator horn travel limit --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" --> <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators because the most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it reaches the stop. ( 4 degrees short) Consequently taking anymore off the stop is not going to help. Is it OK to trim away some of the lower horn to get a few more degrees of travel? Anybody else run into this? Richard RV-7A QB Getting married? Find great tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 05:43:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Elevator horn travel limit
    From: James Ashford <jashford@ashcreekwireless.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: James Ashford <jashford@ashcreekwireless.com> Richard, I had to do the same-trim the horn a bit where it contacted the bulkhead in order to get the req'd. travel. Very little trimming is required. Jim Ashford RV 7 N713RV On Thursday, June 17, 2004, at 03:33 PM, Richard Suffoletto wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" > <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> > > > I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators because > the most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it reaches the > stop. ( 4 degrees short) Consequently taking anymore off the stop is > not going to help. Is it OK to trim away some of the lower horn to get > a few more degrees of travel? Anybody else run into this? > > > Richard > > > RV-7A QB > > > Getting married? Find great tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN > Life Events. > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 08:16:30 PM PST US
    From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Tow bar
    --> RV-List message posted by: Lwfeatherston@aol.com DO NOT ARCHIVE I know of a source for electric wheel chairs that are not as expensive and work like a charm. I watched my friend pull his Cessna 182 into the hanger a week ago, and it was much, MUCH, slicker than a gas powered tug. Not to mention, you get to ride as well. Total time from unplugging the battery charger, to hooking up the nose wheel, to tugging, to parking and repluging the charger was just amazingly short. Supposedly, they have the power to move a Beech 18. I believe they are wheel chairs that are no longer "cosmetically" acceptable for use, but I'll tell you I am a believer. My airstrip is on a flood plain, and I intentionally built a large mound to put my hanger about 4' high. I taxi the airplane up onto a concrete pad outside the hangar, but I am always concerned that I am taxiing too close to "things." I plan on getting one of the wheel chairs myself to prevent hangar rash. If you don't mind contact me off the list, and I will get the name, and numbers together tomorrow to reply to you, Les Featherston 417-466-4663


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    Time: 09:46:27 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Anglin" <jlanglin44@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Garmin/Navaid interface
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <jlanglin44@earthlink.net> I am having trouble figuring out which pin goes to which pin to navigate with input from my Garmin GNC 300XL to my Navaid autopilot. If anyone out there has some positive input I will listen. I have the Smart Coupler in my autopilot if that helps. Jim Anglin HR II


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    Time: 09:57:14 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Replacement Viton Brake O-Rings
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 6/16/2004 6:58:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lhelming@sigecom.net writes: Would you mind very much to make another posting to me or to the list and identify the part number and where you purchase the replacement Viton O-Rings. I see from some previous postings a company reference, but no part number. ============================================ Actually, I'm slow in responding here because I'm unsure of exactly what O-ring goes where. You see, four years ago I bought a bunch of O-rings for a variety of applications on the same invoice. The various O-rings on the invoice are: 2-006V-75 2-010V-75 2-113V-75 2-216V-75 2-218V-75 I believe that the smaller numbered seals are for inside the master cylinders and the caliper O-ring is one of the last two P/Ns listed. In 2000 I noticed during the preflight that my buna-n (nitrile std) caliper O-rings were seeping/leaking on the ramp at Henderson, NV after two years of flying (FYI, I have parking brakes). I managed to get home to LVK without a problem, but when I pulled them, I could see that they clearly had suffered heat distress and were taking a square set. Viton ones have been working for four years with zero problems. Their phone is 408-727-3995. I hope this helps. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 701 hrs; last trip, Sedona)


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    Time: 10:13:18 PM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: Elevator horn travel limit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Silly question - how are you measuring the angle for travel? If you put a "smart tool" or equivalent level on the elevator directly, you will be measuring a lesser angle than the real travel. I did this for a while trying to figure out how to get the required travel, until I went "duh!" If your plane is level, then putting the "smart tool" near the counter balance weights is better, or you can level the elevator, measure the angle, and then measure the angle with full travel. Mickey >I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators >because the most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it >reaches the stop. ( 4 degrees short) Consequently taking anymore >off the stop is not going to help. Is it OK to trim away some of >the lower horn to get a few more degrees of travel? Anybody else run into this? -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage


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    Time: 11:22:02 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Elevator horn travel limit
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Unless I'm missing something, I don't get your logic. If you put a digital protractor on the surface of the elevator (*anywhere* on the surface), take a "neutral" reading, and then take the reading at both extremes of travel, you can determine the angular deflection that way. The protractor doesn't have to be on the elevator's chord-wise centerline to be accurate. The top skin on the elevator, for example, is at a *fixed* relative angle relative to the centerline. If the elevator is deflected 9 degrees upward, the top skin would likewise be deflected 9 degrees. I could be on crack, however...so correct me if I'm wrong! 8-) )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator horn travel limit > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > > Silly question - how are you measuring the angle for travel? > > If you put a "smart tool" or equivalent level on the > elevator directly, you will be measuring a lesser > angle than the real travel. I did this for a while > trying to figure out how to get the required travel, > until I went "duh!" > > If your plane is level, then putting the "smart tool" near > the counter balance weights is better, or you can level > the elevator, measure the angle, and then measure the > angle with full travel. > > Mickey > > > >I am not able to get the necessary up travel on the elevators > >because the most rear horn hits the rear bulk head just as it > >reaches the stop. ( 4 degrees short) Consequently taking anymore > >off the stop is not going to help. Is it OK to trim away some of > >the lower horn to get a few more degrees of travel? Anybody else run into this? > > -- > Mickey Coggins > http://www.rv8.ch/ > #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage > >




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