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Sun 08/01/04


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:23 AM - Collingwood - Gathering of the Classics (Roger Embree)
     2. 05:20 AM - Re: Lycoming design improvements (lucky macy)
     3. 08:49 AM - Dynon D10A (Larry Bowen)
     4. 08:49 AM - Counter Balance Weights (Glen Matejcek)
     5. 10:11 AM - Re: Dynon D10A (Mickey Coggins)
     6. 12:40 PM - Strobe regs question (Glen Matejcek)
     7. 05:19 PM - Re: Micromonitor calibration (Charles Rowbotham)
     8. 05:22 PM - Re: [RV-8] First Flight (Charles Rowbotham)
     9. 05:26 PM - Re: Micromonitor calibration (Scott Vanartsdalen)
    10. 07:15 PM - Looking for photos of exhaust installation for rv-8a (dag adamson)
    11. 07:48 PM - Re: Looking for photos of exhaust installation for rv-8a (N67BT@aol.com)
    12. 08:05 PM - Re: Stainless Firewall Bypass Kits (Chopper)
    13. 08:08 PM - Re: Looking for photos of exhaust installation for rv-8a (Dan Checkoway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:23:08 AM PST US
    From: Roger Embree <j.embree@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Collingwood - Gathering of the Classics
    --> RV-List message posted by: Roger Embree <j.embree@sympatico.ca> Southern Ontario RVators, Due to the poor weather yesterday, the annual event at Collingwood was a bit of a bust. After the heavy rain stopped, about a dozen of us pushed our planes out for the public to view. The only classic to fly in was a beautiful C170 from Burlington which arrived late in the day. Mine was the only RV, so I had to answer the Q's about Van's machines. Many of you might not know that at the last minute the organizers changed the format to a full two day event. Please show up today and help me answer those questions. I am looking out the window and there is nothing but clear blue up here, so get going! There is a beautiful example of a 3/4 scale storch on the field for any of you who have never seen one. Regards, Roger Embree RV-4 CGIRH Alliston, Ontario


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    Time: 05:20:12 AM PST US
    From: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Lycoming design improvements
    --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com> I think the lycoming fella has Deltahawk on the brain. I'll bet the execs at Lycoming-Textron do too :-) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "R.A.S" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com> Subject: RV-List: Lycoming design improvements --> RV-List message posted by: "R.A.S" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com> apparently lycoming is improving it's design of the piston family engines: a quote from an article from the EAA Airventure Today says it all: ""Lycoming points to the success of its IO-390-X, introduced at EAA AirVenture 2003, as proof of the success of its technology plan. "This is the most powerful, turbocharged, normally aspirated engine we've ever brought to market," said Wolf."" That's a truly amazing technological achievement, a turbocharged normally aspirated engine....... do not archive


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    Time: 08:49:01 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Dynon D10A
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> Has anyone taken advantage of the D10 --> D10A upgrade offered by Dynon? Was it worth the hassle and money? Is it truly a clean swap, or do you have to monkey with the existing D10 wiring harness (ie, output to the transonder)? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com


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    Time: 08:49:01 AM PST US
    From: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Counter Balance Weights
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net> > Neil - > > Before paint, my left elevator with electric trim needs a little more weight > than the supplied lead block provides. I mounted a nutplate across the > forward tooling hole in the ribs and used an assortment of fender washers on > a -3 bolt to balance it. I haven't decided yet whether to cast a lead chunk > to replace the washers. > > Alternatively, someone (Gretz, maybe?) is making a kit to relocate the servo > and it's attendant weight to the fuse, to get the mass out of the elevator. > > Neal > RV-7 N8ZG (wings) I had this very conversation with Van's at OSH this past week. It seems that it's okay and within design parameters to balance the left and right elevators as a unit, despite the lack of torsional rigidity of the system. Their design accounts for this possibility. Glen Matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net


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    Time: 10:11:28 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: Dynon D10A
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi, The D10A only outputs serial transponder data (if that's what it's called) whereas the D10 outputs parallel. This tells me that the wiring will need to be changed, if the upgrade is truly to a D10A. Mickey >Has anyone taken advantage of the D10 --> D10A upgrade offered by Dynon? >Was it worth the hassle and money? Is it truly a clean swap, or do you have >to monkey with the existing D10 wiring harness (ie, output to the >transonder)? -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage


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    Time: 12:40:58 PM PST US
    From: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Strobe regs question
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Strobe regs question > > --> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com> > > At 10:43 2004-07-31, you wrote: > >--> RV-List message posted by: Paul M Parashak <paulmike@parashak.net> > > > >With all the discussion of strobes, I started digging into the regs and have > >a question. FAR23.1401=A0=A0=A0Anticollision light system ( found here: > >http://tinyurl.com/3k6g3 ), is this the strobe or the red beacon? How many > >strobes do I really need? Two or three? I was planning a rudder position > >light but Van=B9s also sells an aft light/strobe combo. Do I need the combo? > > > >Regards, Paul > >rv8a.parashak.net > > Simply put, you need to be able to see at least one of the strobes all the > way around the plane, all 360 degrees. So... > Howdy- To answer your questions directly, Yes; None; Neither; Nope. To expand a little: If you're gonna fly at night, the two things you will need are position lights and anti collision lights. The viewing angle requirements for these are shown in the Aircraft Spruce catalog lighting section. To achieve the upward coverage specified, Van's sheared wingtips generally require a standoff such as can be found in the Van's accessory catalog. Either the 2 unit all-in-one wingtip variety or the more conventional 3 position lights will work fine. With regard to the strobe / beacon issue, the regs specify either an approved aviation red or aviation white anti collision light system. This can be an older style red incandescent beacon, a newer style strobe through a red lens, white wingtip strobes, a white beacon (I believe Beech has done this in the past), or whatever. The essential elements are that it not be a steady light, that it be visible, and it be either red or white. Soooo, strobes are fine, a beacon is fine, and both together are (at least from a regulatory perspective) overkill. As to the ability to see the strobe / beacon from any direction, in a previous life I flew a few 152's that had a beacon on top of the fin and no strobes at all. The wing, stabilizer, and fuse blocked quite a bit of fwd and downward viewing angle. As an aside, I have also flown at least one piper product that had wingtip strobes but no beacon. For my own part, I elected to go with no beacon and the all in one wingtip units from Whelen. Having viewed them side by side with the Aeroflashes I felt Whelens put out more light, which is of course the whole idea. Also, the wingtip units will eliminate one more potential reason for my larger than average carcass to have to crawl into the tailcone again. Were I to do it over, I'd probably use the less expensive Whelen spin off unit recently mentioned. YMMV, FWIW, Nomex on, Etc. Glen Matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net


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    Time: 05:19:08 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Micromonitor calibration
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com> Kim, You might want to call Ron at Rocky Mountain. Chuck Rowbotham RV-8A >From: Knicholas2@aol.com >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Micromonitor calibration >Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:51:27 EDT > >--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com > >How do I calibrate the amp. meter setting on my Rocky Mt. Instruments >micromonitor? The manual makes reference to calibration but I I cannot >find it in >the manual. (It is probably right in from of me and I just don't see >it......) > >Thanks. > >Kim Nicholas >Seattle >RV9A Flying!!! > > Planning a family vacation? Check out the MSN Family Travel guide! http://dollar.msn.com


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    Time: 05:22:15 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
    Subject: RE: [RV-8] First Flight
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com> Jon, CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!! Chuck & Dave Rowbotham RV-8A >From: "Jonathan Weiswasser" <jonweisw@rcn.com> >Reply-To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com >To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [RV-8] First Flight >Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 13:37:59 -0000 > >N898JW, RV-8 sn#81639, borne out of a basement in downtown Washington, >DC, took to the air over Leesburg on July 26. It sports an IO-360M1B >with dual lightspeeds and a Whirlwind 151. Gross weight at 1140lbs >(Yes, heavy, I know...) Part of the weight is due to the packed panel, >which includes Dynon D-10, two axis trutrak, CNX-80 with MX-20, SL-40, >PMA-4000B audio panel, Garmin GTX-330 (with mode S), full complement >of steam gauges (including 2 1/4" peanut gyro from the fly market at >OSH last year), EIS, and a WSI. I also put the Lyle Hefel side panel >mods in. Look for featured article in The Washington Post style >section next week. > >Without wheel pants or gear leg fairings, it looks like I'm getting >150kts. The left wing is slightly heavy (what else is new?). What a >pleasure to fly! Special thanks to Craig Moen (RV-8), Carl Froehlich >(RV-8A), and Curtis Hinkley (RV-8) [aka "The Three C's" of MARV fame), >who never failed to decend on my house to help me fix a problem or >conquer another milestone in the build process. Without them, this >project would have been very difficult. > >Good luck to all! > >Jon Weiswasser >N898JW, RV-8 >Flying! > > >http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/jrDrlB/TM > > ><*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV-8/ > ><*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > RV-8-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Planning a family vacation? Check out the MSN Family Travel guide! http://dollar.msn.com


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    Time: 05:26:40 PM PST US
    From: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Micromonitor calibration
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> I don't remember calibrating mine. I just assembled it and slapped it on there. It seems reasonably accurate but I've never really cross checked it. My Micromonitor has been working great for about two years. Charles Rowbotham <crowbotham@hotmail.com> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" Kim, You might want to call Ron at Rocky Mountain. Chuck Rowbotham RV-8A >From: Knicholas2@aol.com >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Micromonitor calibration >Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:51:27 EDT > >--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com > >How do I calibrate the amp. meter setting on my Rocky Mt. Instruments >micromonitor? The manual makes reference to calibration but I I cannot >find it in >the manual. (It is probably right in from of me and I just don't see >it......) > >Thanks. > >Kim Nicholas >Seattle >RV9A Flying!!! > > Planning a family vacation? Check out the MSN Family Travel guide! http://dollar.msn.com -- Scott VanArtsdalen RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!! When a man does all he can though it succeeds not well, blame not him that did it." -- George Washington


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    Time: 07:15:37 PM PST US
    From: dag adamson <dag_adamson@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Looking for photos of exhaust installation for rv-8a
    --> RV-List message posted by: dag adamson <dag_adamson@yahoo.com> Hello- I am looking for photos of how the cross over exhaust was secured on an RV-8A with an io360-A1b6. The diagram that came with the exhaust moinuting hardware wasn't that great. Thanks Dag ***************** Dag Adamson 617 513 1182 Cambridge, MA Denver, CO ***************** ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:48:07 PM PST US
    From: N67BT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Looking for photos of exhaust installation for rv-8a
    --> RV-List message posted by: N67BT@aol.com "wasn't that great" -- very kind. I would have preferred a drawing or photo just half as well done as the exhaust work. The Vetterman exhaust system sold by Van's is near perfect but the installation instructions --- lets say (also being kind) -- leave a lot to be desired. I guess I'll just wing it unless some help is available here for my IO360A!B6/RV7A installation. Some of you are saying "just bolt it on" and that's what I did. The question is, exactly how is the supplied support structure to be attached? Bob Trumpfheller am looking for photos of how the cross over exhaust was secured on an RV-8A with an io360-A1b6. The diagram that came with the exhaust moinuting hardware wasn't that great. Thanks Dag


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    Time: 08:05:29 PM PST US
    From: "Chopper" <mkellems@tnweb.com>
    Subject: Re: Stainless Firewall Bypass Kits
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Chopper" <mkellems@tnweb.com> Stainless Heater bypass valves and Firewall Penetration Seal Kits are available from epm-avcorp.com Just to help protect you from the flames. MK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuse Blocks on a slider. > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > > I wonder if you've considered a way to keep flame and gases from > > penetrating the firewall at your wire and cable pass throughs? It > > appears in the photos that you're using plastic snap fittings. > > Gases are one thing, but fire is another. Are you planning on using an > aluminum heat bypass box? If so, then fireproofing every little nook and > cranny on your firewall may not make a bit of difference if you do have a > fire. In theory, won't that heat box melt and expose a relatively huge 2+ > inch hole straight into the cockpit? > > Just playing devil's advocate... > > I understand there are stainless steel heat boxes available...have to admit > that mine is aluminum. > > do not archive > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 08:08:18 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Looking for photos of exhaust installation for rv-8a
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> See the bottom of this page... http://www.rvproject.com/20030825.html Got a few crappy photos of the exhaust hanger setup for the A1B6 exhaust. It's on a -7, so if anything it'll give you a clearer view without the nosegear weldment in the way...you get the idea. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "dag adamson" <dag_adamson@yahoo.com> Subject: RV-List: Looking for photos of exhaust installation for rv-8a > --> RV-List message posted by: dag adamson <dag_adamson@yahoo.com> > > Hello- > > I am looking for photos of how the cross over exhaust was secured on an RV-8A with an io360-A1b6. The diagram that came with the exhaust moinuting hardware wasn't that great. > > Thanks > Dag > > > ***************** > Dag Adamson > 617 513 1182 > Cambridge, MA > Denver, CO > ***************** > > --------------------------------- > >




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