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1. 12:01 AM - Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual (Richard Bibb)
2. 01:07 AM - Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual (Mickey Coggins)
3. 01:54 AM - Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual (Mickey Coggins)
4. 05:33 AM - Award Winners at OSH (Ken Brooks)
5. 05:38 AM - Hey Monty ()
6. 05:44 AM - Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual (Richard Bibb)
7. 05:58 AM - Reno Air Race Tickets (Mike Comeaux)
8. 07:43 AM - Antenna connector (was A200 manual) (Ken Simmons)
9. 08:42 AM - Among the living (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
10. 09:01 AM - Re: Need help with brake lines (Ross Mickey)
11. 09:17 AM - Re: Antenna connector (was A200 manual) (Dr. Peter Laurence)
12. 09:21 AM - Sheared wingtip light covers (Mickey Coggins)
13. 10:02 AM - Re: Hey Monty (Monty Barrett)
14. 11:27 AM - Looking for -A1A Crankshaft (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
15. 12:40 PM - Re: Approach Systems Wiring Hub (Charles E. Brame)
16. 01:32 PM - Re: Stainless Firewall Bypass Kits (Charlie Kuss)
17. 01:32 PM - Re: Hey Monty (Charlie Kuss)
18. 01:50 PM - Re: Approach Systems Wiring Hub (Stein Bruch)
19. 02:12 PM - Papers on Cooling design (Laird Owens)
20. 02:22 PM - Re: Looking for -A1A Crankshaft (linn walters)
21. 03:15 PM - Re: Papers on Cooling design (linn walters)
22. 05:29 PM - Re: Among the living (Scott Vanartsdalen)
23. 06:31 PM - Re: Among the living (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
24. 06:33 PM - Re: Approach Systems Wiring Hub (Scott Vanartsdalen)
25. 06:36 PM - Re : Papers on Cooling design (Martin Hone)
26. 06:40 PM - Re: Among the living (Richard Bibb)
27. 07:25 PM - Re: Sheared wingtip light covers (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
28. 08:56 PM - Manifold Pressure Jitters (PGLong@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
That is only the instruction manual - not the installation manual.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Subject: Re: RV-List: ICOM A200 Installation manual
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
> Hi,
>
> The ICOM A200 installation manual is available here:
>
> http://www.icomamerica.com/downloads/manuals.asp
>
> Mickey
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
You are right - sorry about that. I'll have a look in
the shop to see if mine came with a separate installation
manual.
Mickey
>That is only the instruction manual - not the installation manual.
>
>>
>> The ICOM A200 installation manual is available here:
>>
>> http://www.icomamerica.com/downloads/manuals.asp
>>
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi,
I found mine, and scanned it. Details here:
http://www.rv8.ch/article.php?story=20040803103538789
Mickey
>You are right - sorry about that. I'll have a look in
>the shop to see if mine came with a separate installation
>manual.
>
>>That is only the instruction manual - not the installation manual.
>>
>>>
>>> The ICOM A200 installation manual is available here:
>>>
>>> http://www.icomamerica.com/downloads/manuals.asp
>>>
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| Subject: | Award Winners at OSH |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Brooks" <kenbrooks@charter.net>
Here's a link to the whole list of award winners at AirVenture. Congrats to
all the RV winners, and there are plenty! Did anyone get a photo of Lyle's
RV-8 that they'd like to send me? I didn't make it up there this year.
http://www.airventure.org/2004/monaug2/aircraft_awards.html
Ken Brooks
Roscoe, IL
Still Finishing
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--> RV-List message posted by: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com>
Is that Monty Barrett of Tulsa I see lurking on the RV list? If not don't anyone
read any further.
IF SO
I just want to tell people that Monty is a hell of an engine resource. Me and Charlie
Kuss rebuilt my IO-320-B1A and there were several times I couldn't find
parts. Monty is the guy that came through for me more than once. I'd consider
him the Bart Lalonde of the south. He builds lots of high performance acro types.
He doesn't know me from Adam, but went out of his way to help or swap any
way he could.
Don't know if he's been introduced or not, but I thought I'd pipe up and let it
be known that he's one hell of a resource and one hell of a nice guy to do business
with before some lister-know-it-all flames the hell out of him and runs
some more talent and resources off the list.
Thanks again Monty (of course assuming you are in fact THAT Monty)
Eric Henson
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| Subject: | Re: ICOM A200 Installation manual |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
Attached is a couple of pages of an addendum that is most useful....
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| Subject: | Reno Air Race Tickets |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux@bendnet.com>
I have (2) tickets to box A-89 Front row if anyone interested they just
came available. Complete with parking passes, pit passes.
$290.00 ea.
Regards Mike Comeaux
Do not Archive
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| Subject: | Antenna connector (was A200 manual) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
Thanks to everyone for the help with the ICOM A200 installation manual. Sorry about
the confusion with the Instruction manual. I guess I should have been more
clear in my first email. I also apologize if I didn't reply to anyone's direct
email.
And now another related question. Does anyone know of a source for the antenna
connectors? I think this is a relatively standard connector for radios. It attaches
to the rack with a keeper and the coax comes out at a right angle and is
soldered. It looks like the same connector that was on a KLX 135A that I had.
The ICOM manual calls it a BNC L connector. The only place I've found wants $20
bucks a piece. That seems pricey, but maybe I'm just cheap.
Thanks.
Ken
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Among the living |
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
Purchased a RV-4 a few months ago. N42917
Purchased a tail kit for a RV-8 from Trade a Plane a few days ago
Ordered a QB kit just now.
Tools are next (got tools ?)
Finally pulled the triger.....feels good to be over that.
RV-4 N42917
RV-8 # 80533 awaiting tail QB ordered
1946 7ac Champ (85hp) N82766 (feels kinda slow now) (about to sell).
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
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| Subject: | Need help with brake lines |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
-----Original Message-----
Jason Sneed
Subject: RV-List: Need help with brake lines
Obviously I have to get rid of the plastic hose on both sides my
questions are:
1. What type of hose to use?
Everyone I know has used the standard aluminum tubing Van provides down
the gear leg. The braided stainless can cause some serious wear if it
isn't totally isolated.
2. I have woods stiffeners on my gear legs wrapped in glass, do I need
to remove this to install the brake line?
There is no reason to as long as you can run and secure the lines
between the stiffeners and fairings.
3. Do I need to order pre-made hoses or can I make my own?
Make your own. You will need a 100 degree flaring tool and something to
help you make smooth bends. Freight Harbor has the metal sleeves and a
fancier bending tool for cheap.
4. Is aluminum tubbing better that steel braided? or is there something
better?
See above.
5. my brake lines basically are in the middle of the wood stiffeners.
They can stay there. Retro the new line outside the stiffeners.
Another consideration. I don't know how old your 6 is, but some people
have had problems with corrosion under their wooden gear stiffeners.
This happens when the gear leg is not adequately painted or the paint
gets scratched off. If this may be the case with yours, it may be best
to tear then off, treat the gear legs and reapply new gear stiffeners.
Ross Mickey
RV6A
N9PT
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna connector (was A200 manual) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Peter Laurence" <dr.laurence@mbdi.org>
Ken
this is one source.
http://www.l-com.com/sdex/H23.JSP
There are many. Don't know if there any less expensive
Peter
RV9A
waiting for wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
Subject: RV-List: Antenna connector (was A200 manual)
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
>
> Thanks to everyone for the help with the ICOM A200 installation manual.
Sorry about the confusion with the Instruction manual. I guess I should have
been more clear in my first email. I also apologize if I didn't reply to
anyone's direct email.
>
> And now another related question. Does anyone know of a source for the
antenna connectors? I think this is a relatively standard connector for
radios. It attaches to the rack with a keeper and the coax comes out at a
right angle and is soldered. It looks like the same connector that was on a
KLX 135A that I had. The ICOM manual calls it a BNC L connector. The only
place I've found wants $20 bucks a piece. That seems pricey, but maybe I'm
just cheap.
>
> Thanks.
> Ken
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Sheared wingtip light covers |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi,
Van's recommends we install the VA-172 wingtip light covers
using two 6-32 screws and nutplates.
Does anyone have another method of mounting these?
I'm worried that the hole will crack and start lookin'
funky.
Thanks,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Monty Barrett" <bpa@bpaengines.com>
Yep, it is the same Monty. Thanks for the kind words.
I recently picked up a thread that had a quote from Mike Wolf of
Textron-Lycoming in it. Mike had stated that the 390 was the best
" Turbocharged, normally aspirated engine" Lycoming has had.
I cannot speak for Mr. Wolf but in his defense I am sure he meant
" fuel injected normally aspirated"------------. Mr. Wolf is most likely
under considerable corporate pressure at the present time and he either
spoke incorrectly or was mis-quoted. Either way, I agree with his
assessment of the I0-390-X engine. It gives equivalent power to the
high compression I0-360 engine without the inherent high cylinder pressures
and detonation tendencies the 10:1 engines have. The 390 is also a
counterweighted crankshaft engine and is extremely smooth running, according
to field reports we have from those fortunate enough to have a I0-390
installed and flying.
Monty Barrett, Sr.
Tulsa, Oklahoma
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com
Subject: RV-List: Hey Monty
--> RV-List message posted by: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com>
Is that Monty Barrett of Tulsa I see lurking on the RV list? If not don't
anyone read any further.
IF SO
I just want to tell people that Monty is a hell of an engine resource. Me
and Charlie Kuss rebuilt my IO-320-B1A and there were several times I
couldn't find parts. Monty is the guy that came through for me more than
once. I'd consider him the Bart Lalonde of the south. He builds lots of high
performance acro types. He doesn't know me from Adam, but went out of his
way to help or swap any way he could.
Don't know if he's been introduced or not, but I thought I'd pipe up and let
it be known that he's one hell of a resource and one hell of a nice guy to
do business with before some lister-know-it-all flames the hell out of him
and runs some more talent and resources off the list.
Thanks again Monty (of course assuming you are in fact THAT Monty)
Eric Henson
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| Subject: | Looking for -A1A Crankshaft |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Fellow listers,
I am looking for a used, airworthy, Lycoming IO-360-A1A crankshaft for an
engine I am overhauling to use in my RV-7A. I have made several phone calls and
it seems that these are hard to come by. Do any of you have any leads?
Please reply off-list so I get first crack at it!
Thanks,
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (Flying -- about 33 hours)
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| Subject: | Re: Approach Systems Wiring Hub |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles E. Brame" <charleyb@earthlink.net>
Scott,
I have one of the Approach Systems Hubs installed, though it hasn't
flown yet. I like it and think it is worth the price, but it is not
without its problems.
I have a full IFR panel with autopilot. I was anticipating about 400+
hours of tedious wiring before I found Approach Systems. Their
installation was pretty simple, and only took a couple of hours to
completely install. I did have a couple of problems.
My panel design is a bit unique and my intercom panel (Apollo SL-10MS)
is way over on one side of the panel. Approach provided a standard
length cable (23 inches if memory serves me right) for all of the
avionics. The intercom cable (by far the biggest and most complex) as
supplied was too short. I returned it and they sent me a 42 inch cable
by return mail with no extra charge. No where in their literature could
I find a reference to a standard length inch cable.
Once installed, I found the intercom cable wired wrong. All of the
avionics cables were correct, but wires for the pilot and copilot
phones, mics and PTT were wired wrong. Again, they quickly replaced the
cable with no charge. Once the new cable was installed everything worked
as advertised on the first power up with no sparks or smoke. I have
since found that the external speaker wire (also part of the intercom
cable) is dead, but I am reluctant to pull the wiring apart again so it
will have to wait to get fixed.
Another advantage of the Approach Systems Hub is the ease of adding or
changing avionics. Even though I haven't flown yet, I already have some
avionics upgrades in mind for the future. Approach Systems will provide
new cables for additional avionics or upgrades at a nominal cost. I
think they even provide a refund for the old cables.
Pretty neat way of wiring avionics. Despite my problems, I recommend them.
Charlie Brame
RV-6A N11CB
San Antonio
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> Time: 07:06:51 PM PST US
> From: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Approach Systems Wiring Hub
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
>
> I have reviewed the archives, and am looking to hear any new pros and cons
> on the Approach Systems Wiring Hub from those who have had actual experience
> with that system, particularly involving IFR stacks and autopilots. So far
> I have only been able to find and converse with two users.
> Thank you,
>
> Scott Diffenbaugh-RV7A mostly complete except for instrument panel wiring
> diff@foothill.net
>
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| Subject: | Stainless Firewall Bypass Kits |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Mickey,
Any particular product from Roxtec that would work well for an RV. It's
hard wading through all those products.
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
>Hi Monty,
>
>I think you are referring to Roxtec http://www.roxtec.com/
>
>Mickey
>
>At 16:02 02-08-04, Monty Barrett wrote:
>-----Start of Original Message-----
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Monty Barrett" <bpa@bpaengines.com>
> >
> >You might also check with a company called RoxCorp. They make firewall
> >penetration protection for a variety of industries specifically for wire and
> >cable pass through locations.
> >
> >Monty Barrett
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chopper
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Stainless Firewall Bypass Kits
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Chopper" <mkellems@tnweb.com>
> >
> >Stainless Heater bypass valves and Firewall Penetration Seal Kits are
> >available from epm-avcorp.com
> >Just to help protect you from the flames. MK
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuse Blocks on a slider.
> >
> >
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >>
> >> > I wonder if you've considered a way to keep flame and gases from
> >> > penetrating the firewall at your wire and cable pass throughs? It
> >> > appears in the photos that you're using plastic snap fittings.
> >>
> >> Gases are one thing, but fire is another. Are you planning on using an
> >> aluminum heat bypass box? If so, then fireproofing every little nook and
> >> cranny on your firewall may not make a bit of difference if you do have a
> >> fire. In theory, won't that heat box melt and expose a relatively huge 2+
> >> inch hole straight into the cockpit?
> >>
> >> Just playing devil's advocate...
> >>
> >> I understand there are stainless steel heat boxes available...have to
> >admit
> >> that mine is aluminum.
> >>
> >> do not archive
> >> )_( Dan
> >> RV-7 N714D
> >> http://www.rvproject.com
> >>
>-----End of Original Message-----
>
>--
>Mickey Coggins
>http://www.rv8.ch/
>#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Monty,
Is the IO-390 a bored 360? A stroked 360 or some combination of the two?
What are the bore and stroke dimensions.
Charlie Kuss
Engine assembly assistant to the nameless :-)
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Monty Barrett" <bpa@bpaengines.com>
>
>Yep, it is the same Monty. Thanks for the kind words.
>I recently picked up a thread that had a quote from Mike Wolf of
>Textron-Lycoming in it. Mike had stated that the 390 was the best
>" Turbocharged, normally aspirated engine" Lycoming has had.
>
>I cannot speak for Mr. Wolf but in his defense I am sure he meant
>" fuel injected normally aspirated"------------. Mr. Wolf is most likely
>under considerable corporate pressure at the present time and he either
>spoke incorrectly or was mis-quoted. Either way, I agree with his
>assessment of the I0-390-X engine. It gives equivalent power to the
>high compression I0-360 engine without the inherent high cylinder pressures
>and detonation tendencies the 10:1 engines have. The 390 is also a
>counterweighted crankshaft engine and is extremely smooth running, according
>to field reports we have from those fortunate enough to have a I0-390
>installed and flying.
>
>Monty Barrett, Sr.
>Tulsa, Oklahoma
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Hey Monty
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: <EricHe@FlexSolPackaging.com>
>
>Is that Monty Barrett of Tulsa I see lurking on the RV list? If not don't
>anyone read any further.
>
>IF SO
>
>I just want to tell people that Monty is a hell of an engine resource. Me
>and Charlie Kuss rebuilt my IO-320-B1A and there were several times I
>couldn't find parts. Monty is the guy that came through for me more than
>once. I'd consider him the Bart Lalonde of the south. He builds lots of high
>performance acro types. He doesn't know me from Adam, but went out of his
>way to help or swap any way he could.
>
>Don't know if he's been introduced or not, but I thought I'd pipe up and let
>it be known that he's one hell of a resource and one hell of a nice guy to
>do business with before some lister-know-it-all flames the hell out of him
>and runs some more talent and resources off the list.
>
>Thanks again Monty (of course assuming you are in fact THAT Monty)
>
>Eric Henson
>
>
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| Subject: | Approach Systems Wiring Hub |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
FWIW, I have some first hand experience with their products. For those who
don't know, I (we-SteinAir) do a significant amount of custom wiring,
including complete panel wiring, including use of the Approach systems hubs.
Here's the deal in my experience.
If you're going with a huge IFR panel with Dual Nav/Coms (Dual 430's/530's,
VOR's, etc..) then their system is a lifesaver. They are a top notch
company, with top notch products, and wiring together dual radio stacks
costs a LOT of money.
That being said, if you're going with anything less, then it's frankly not
worth the money. If you look on the Vans Airforce website, you'll notice
one of their systems for sale from an individual who realized that the plug
and play cables just don't work well for a small customized panel. If you
use their system, you're stuck with a fairly generic type of installation,
and it allows little to no customization. Their system is very similar to
buying Van's wiring harness, only to realize that in order to use it you
have to do everything their way. A good share of people end up
"bastardizing" it.
Look at the comments below, and you'll see they basically echo what I've
said. One of the big downsides if using their system is you need to spend
at least $300.00 before you can do anything, then you need to buy all the
harnesses from them, including any future expansion/growth items. This is
fine for the huge IFR panels, but is not worth it for the normal RV panel.
Most of us like to have little things added into our wiring like FM/XM
radios, aux inputs/outputs, various warning lights, etc.. that just won't
work with their system. I know more than one person who has bought their
system, only to cut apart their cables and insert their own wiring, spending
more time and money than just doing it themselves.
Just to re-iterate, it is a fine system in use by many people, and I can
vouch for the company being first rate and top notch. I'm just saying that
it's really not worth it for the normal "sport" RV type panel. One last
thing to think about with the "hubs". Everything runs through a printed
circuit board in the hub, and if that thing gets fried, you could
"potentially" lose everything plugged into it. I'm not a huge fan of
running everything in my entire airplane through a potential single point of
failure, but that's just my personal opinion and worth what you paid for it.
Their marketing folks will tell you that will never happen, but I've seen it
happen with similar items (FMS's) on Boeings/Airbus etc..-that's why they
always have at least 2 of everything.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis.
PS...just ordered a new ECI -360 kit!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charles E. Brame
Subject: Re: RV-List: Approach Systems Wiring Hub
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles E. Brame" <charleyb@earthlink.net>
Scott,
I have one of the Approach Systems Hubs installed, though it hasn't
flown yet. I like it and think it is worth the price, but it is not
without its problems.
I have a full IFR panel with autopilot. I was anticipating about 400+
hours of tedious wiring before I found Approach Systems. Their
installation was pretty simple, and only took a couple of hours to
completely install. I did have a couple of problems.
My panel design is a bit unique and my intercom panel (Apollo SL-10MS)
is way over on one side of the panel. Approach provided a standard
length cable (23 inches if memory serves me right) for all of the
avionics. The intercom cable (by far the biggest and most complex) as
supplied was too short. I returned it and they sent me a 42 inch cable
by return mail with no extra charge. No where in their literature could
I find a reference to a standard length inch cable.
Once installed, I found the intercom cable wired wrong. All of the
avionics cables were correct, but wires for the pilot and copilot
phones, mics and PTT were wired wrong. Again, they quickly replaced the
cable with no charge. Once the new cable was installed everything worked
as advertised on the first power up with no sparks or smoke. I have
since found that the external speaker wire (also part of the intercom
cable) is dead, but I am reluctant to pull the wiring apart again so it
will have to wait to get fixed.
Another advantage of the Approach Systems Hub is the ease of adding or
changing avionics. Even though I haven't flown yet, I already have some
avionics upgrades in mind for the future. Approach Systems will provide
new cables for additional avionics or upgrades at a nominal cost. I
think they even provide a refund for the old cables.
Pretty neat way of wiring avionics. Despite my problems, I recommend them.
Charlie Brame
RV-6A N11CB
San Antonio
-------------------------------------------
> Time: 07:06:51 PM PST US
> From: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Approach Systems Wiring Hub
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
>
> I have reviewed the archives, and am looking to hear any new pros and cons
> on the Approach Systems Wiring Hub from those who have had actual
experience
> with that system, particularly involving IFR stacks and autopilots. So
far
> I have only been able to find and converse with two users.
> Thank you,
>
> Scott Diffenbaugh-RV7A mostly complete except for instrument panel wiring
> diff@foothill.net
>
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| Subject: | Papers on Cooling design |
--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
I have a friend who is looking for any papers or articles on powerplant
cooling design. He's trying to diagnose some high cylinder problems on
a non RV airplane. I also have an interest in learning more about it.
Wasn't there a NASA grant to a South East university that published a
paper?
Any help would be appreciated.
Laird RV-6
SoCal
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for -A1A Crankshaft |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
>
>Fellow listers,
>
>I am looking for a used, airworthy, Lycoming IO-360-A1A crankshaft for an
>engine I am overhauling to use in my RV-7A. I have made several phone calls and
>it seems that these are hard to come by. Do any of you have any leads?
>
>Please reply off-list so I get first crack at it!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Hopper
>RV-7A (Flying -- about 33 hours)
>
Moldex will make you a billet crank for around $2,000. I have one in my
Pitts.
Linn
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Papers on Cooling design |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Laird Owens wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Laird Owens <owens@aerovironment.com>
>
>I have a friend who is looking for any papers or articles on powerplant
>cooling design. He's trying to diagnose some high cylinder problems on
>a non RV airplane. I also have an interest in learning more about it.
>
>Wasn't there a NASA grant to a South East university that published a
>paper?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Laird RV-6
>SoCal
>
Info from another list seems to point to flashing from casting between
the cylinder fins. They've been there for a long time as old cylinders
show the problem as well as new. Pull the plugs and place a light below
the cylinders next to the plug hole. Look down between the fins
adjacent to the plug holes. Hope this helps!
Linn
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Among the living |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Hey there Sal,
I went from an Aeronca 7AC (85hp) to an RV-4. Don't the landings in the -4 just
spoil you? Nothing like the Champ in my opinion! Well, except they were both
fun airplanes!
CBRxxDRV@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
Purchased a RV-4 a few months ago. N42917
Purchased a tail kit for a RV-8 from Trade a Plane a few days ago
Ordered a QB kit just now.
Tools are next (got tools ?)
Finally pulled the triger.....feels good to be over that.
RV-4 N42917
RV-8 # 80533 awaiting tail QB ordered
1946 7ac Champ (85hp) N82766 (feels kinda slow now) (about to sell).
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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| Subject: | Re: Among the living |
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
In a message dated 8/3/04 8:31:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
svanarts@yahoo.com writes:
> Hey there Sal,
> I went from an Aeronca 7AC (85hp) to an RV-4. Don't the landings in the -4
> just spoil you? Nothing like the Champ in my opinion! Well, except they
> were both fun airplanes!
>
The Champ by far is tougher to land than the 4. The 4 is a pussy cat.
The Champ is the first plane that I had to clean the bugs off the
trailing edge of the wing (Aeronca humor ) :)
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
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| Subject: | Approach Systems Wiring Hub |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
I'm in agreement with you Stein, it wasn't that hard to wire up my plane. I went
with Knuckoll's design and it is simple and cheap to maintain. I did notice
on the AS website that they now have a "Sport" model.
Stein Bruch <stein@steinair.com> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch"
FWIW, I have some first hand experience with their products. For those who
don't know, I (we-SteinAir) do a significant amount of custom wiring,
including complete panel wiring, including use of the Approach systems hubs.
Here's the deal in my experience.
If you're going with a huge IFR panel with Dual Nav/Coms (Dual 430's/530's,
VOR's, etc..) then their system is a lifesaver. They are a top notch
company, with top notch products, and wiring together dual radio stacks
costs a LOT of money.
That being said, if you're going with anything less, then it's frankly not
worth the money. If you look on the Vans Airforce website, you'll notice
one of their systems for sale from an individual who realized that the plug
and play cables just don't work well for a small customized panel. If you
use their system, you're stuck with a fairly generic type of installation,
and it allows little to no customization. Their system is very similar to
buying Van's wiring harness, only to realize that in order to use it you
have to do everything their way. A good share of people end up
"bastardizing" it.
Look at the comments below, and you'll see they basically echo what I've
said. One of the big downsides if using their system is you need to spend
at least $300.00 before you can do anything, then you need to buy all the
harnesses from them, including any future expansion/growth items. This is
fine for the huge IFR panels, but is not worth it for the normal RV panel.
Most of us like to have little things added into our wiring like FM/XM
radios, aux inputs/outputs, various warning lights, etc.. that just won't
work with their system. I know more than one person who has bought their
system, only to cut apart their cables and insert their own wiring, spending
more time and money than just doing it themselves.
Just to re-iterate, it is a fine system in use by many people, and I can
vouch for the company being first rate and top notch. I'm just saying that
it's really not worth it for the normal "sport" RV type panel. One last
thing to think about with the "hubs". Everything runs through a printed
circuit board in the hub, and if that thing gets fried, you could
"potentially" lose everything plugged into it. I'm not a huge fan of
running everything in my entire airplane through a potential single point of
failure, but that's just my personal opinion and worth what you paid for it.
Their marketing folks will tell you that will never happen, but I've seen it
happen with similar items (FMS's) on Boeings/Airbus etc..-that's why they
always have at least 2 of everything.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis.
PS...just ordered a new ECI -360 kit!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charles E. Brame
Subject: Re: RV-List: Approach Systems Wiring Hub
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles E. Brame"
Scott,
I have one of the Approach Systems Hubs installed, though it hasn't
flown yet. I like it and think it is worth the price, but it is not
without its problems.
I have a full IFR panel with autopilot. I was anticipating about 400+
hours of tedious wiring before I found Approach Systems. Their
installation was pretty simple, and only took a couple of hours to
completely install. I did have a couple of problems.
My panel design is a bit unique and my intercom panel (Apollo SL-10MS)
is way over on one side of the panel. Approach provided a standard
length cable (23 inches if memory serves me right) for all of the
avionics. The intercom cable (by far the biggest and most complex) as
supplied was too short. I returned it and they sent me a 42 inch cable
by return mail with no extra charge. No where in their literature could
I find a reference to a standard length inch cable.
Once installed, I found the intercom cable wired wrong. All of the
avionics cables were correct, but wires for the pilot and copilot
phones, mics and PTT were wired wrong. Again, they quickly replaced the
cable with no charge. Once the new cable was installed everything worked
as advertised on the first power up with no sparks or smoke. I have
since found that the external speaker wire (also part of the intercom
cable) is dead, but I am reluctant to pull the wiring apart again so it
will have to wait to get fixed.
Another advantage of the Approach Systems Hub is the ease of adding or
changing avionics. Even though I haven't flown yet, I already have some
avionics upgrades in mind for the future. Approach Systems will provide
new cables for additional avionics or upgrades at a nominal cost. I
think they even provide a refund for the old cables.
Pretty neat way of wiring avionics. Despite my problems, I recommend them.
Charlie Brame
RV-6A N11CB
San Antonio
-------------------------------------------
> Time: 07:06:51 PM PST US
> From: "Scott Diffenbaugh"
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Approach Systems Wiring Hub
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh"
>
> I have reviewed the archives, and am looking to hear any new pros and cons
> on the Approach Systems Wiring Hub from those who have had actual
experience
> with that system, particularly involving IFR stacks and autopilots. So
far
> I have only been able to find and converse with two users.
> Thank you,
>
> Scott Diffenbaugh-RV7A mostly complete except for instrument panel wiring
> diff@foothill.net
>
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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| Subject: | Re : Papers on Cooling design |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au>
Hi Laird,
I don't have anything fancy by way of cooling design info, although I did
design and fabricate a pressure plenum for my RV6, and can only suggest that
your friend consult the bible - Tony Bingelis's "Firewall Forward" or the
"Tony Bingellis on Engines" books
Cheers
Martin in Oz
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| Subject: | Re: Among the living |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
I soloed in a Champ and I creit that airplane with teaching me how to fly.
I've flown a Champ, an RV-4, and a T6 and the Champ made me confident in all
three....
----- Original Message -----
From: <CBRxxDRV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Among the living
> --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/3/04 8:31:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> svanarts@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
> > Hey there Sal,
> > I went from an Aeronca 7AC (85hp) to an RV-4. Don't the landings in
the -4
> > just spoil you? Nothing like the Champ in my opinion! Well, except
they
> > were both fun airplanes!
> >
>
> The Champ by far is tougher to land than the 4. The 4 is a pussy cat.
> The Champ is the first plane that I had to clean the bugs off the
> trailing edge of the wing (Aeronca humor ) :)
>
> Sal Capra
> Lakeland, FL
> My Home Page
> http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sheared wingtip light covers |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 08/03/2004 10:22:29 AM Central Standard Time,
mick-matronics@rv8.ch writes:
Van's recommends we install the VA-172 wingtip light covers
using two 6-32 screws and nutplates.
Does anyone have another method of mounting these?
I'm worried that the hole will crack and start lookin'
funky.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
I've seen quite a few of the covers installed as mentioned above (including
mine) without any negative results (so far). As far as funky, my whole
airplane looks that way- why not the tip lenses as well? 8-)
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark
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| Subject: | Manifold Pressure Jitters |
--> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com
My manifold pressure gage has a bad case of jitters and makes it nearly
unreadable. I think that if I added a snubber or a plug in the line with a small
orifice, that this would settle it done. Has anyone else experienced this?
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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