Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:22 AM - Tool/Part Garage Sale... (Alfred Klewin)
2. 07:41 AM - Re: ACK Rubber Ducky ELT Antenna (Glen Matejcek)
3. 07:50 AM - Re: (RVEIGHTA@aol.com)
4. 08:28 AM - Re: where to buy elastic pockets? (Jim Cimino)
5. 08:39 AM - Brain box mount EFIS ONE (Matt Jurotich)
6. 09:46 AM - Cool RV pics source (Brian Denk)
7. 10:53 AM - Re: Short trip - great plane (JusCash@aol.com)
8. 02:35 PM - Super 7 engine mount! (Scott Solberg)
9. 03:28 PM - Re: Super 7 engine mount! (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
10. 05:20 PM - Anodize Panel? (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
11. 06:05 PM - Respirator wanted to buy (Jordan Grant)
12. 06:21 PM - Stuff for Sale (Steve & Denise)
13. 06:35 PM - Re: Respirator wanted to buy (linn walters)
14. 06:57 PM - Re: Respirator wanted to buy (John Ammeter)
15. 07:26 PM - Re: Respirator wanted to buy (linn walters)
16. 07:37 PM - LED Navigation Light Project (RV-7A Builder)
17. 07:54 PM - Respirators (Craig Warner)
18. 08:42 PM - Re: LED Navigation Light Project (Scott Vanartsdalen)
19. 08:57 PM - Re: Respirator wanted to buy (Robin Wessel)
20. 09:13 PM - How to make a fresh air respirator (Richard Scott)
21. 11:11 PM - Re: Re: Respirator wanted to buy (Jaye and Scott Jackson)
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| Subject: | Tool/Part Garage Sale... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Alfred Klewin <rv6aokc@yahoo.com>
OK...cleaning out the shop again...if you find use for any of the listed items
drop me a line off list....thanks...
1. Air Tool Regulator (Avery #150/List: $14): $8
2. Eng. Acc. Case Cover Plate (Vans list $23): $10
3. Hole Flanging Tool (Avery #1041/$12.50): $7
4. Plexi Scraper (Avery $10): $5
5. Sparkplug "Plugmaster Flex Handle Ratchet"/ 3/8 in drive: (List $65.95): $40
6. 40R USAF Nomex Flight Suit: $20
7. Spring Tube Bending Set (Avery $10): $5
8. 18 Yrs of RVAtor Book: $15
9. GPS Cable (List 1.95/ft): 8 ft for $10
10. Engine Log Book (hardcover): $7
11. 37 issues of RVator 1996, 1998-2003: $10
12. Vert Card Compass Mount (PACMO-U) list $23: $10
13. "Experimental" in White Letters (3in, script print): $10
14. 3 in Duct Flange Alum: $5
15. CH Products Joystick: $20
16. Nutsert Tool (Hi-Torque, with converter kit and nutserts, List $44.95/+14.95)
ALL: $25
17. Century 2000 autopilot install video: $5
18. Loose Cotton Buffing Wheel (for bench grinder): $3 for both
19. Center Rollerover bar brace for RV-6A (WD-643-SS-PC): $10
Thanks....
Kurt in OKC
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| Subject: | Re: ACK Rubber Ducky ELT Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
So this package arrived from Ameri-King yesterday....
I believe I wrote that I learned of the antenna at OSH, not that I saw it.
A manager at Pacific Coast Avionics told me about the new antenna. When I
got home, I called ACK. 'Carol' said 'sure, $36'. What showed up is a
black plastic coated wire antenna 13" long and 3/32 dia with a surface
mount and raked about 20 degrees or so. P/N 450017. While it turns out
that it isn't really a rubber duckie, it will still meet my needs for an
under-canopy antenna, and might even be better than the rubber duckie due
to the sweep angle.
YMMV
Glen
Time: 07:59:52 PM PST US
From: "Charles E. Brame" <charleyb@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: Re: ACK Rubber Ducky ELT Antenna
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles E. Brame" <charleyb@earthlink.net>
So much for ACK rubber ducky elt antennas.
Charlie
-------- Original Message --------
>From: "ACK Technology" <info@ackavionics.com>
>
>To: <charleyb@earthlink.net>
>
>Subject: Re: Rubber Ducky ELT Antenna
>
>Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 19:38:28 -0700
>
>We don't have a rubber ducky type antenna. Must be someone else.
>
>ACK Customer Support
>
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Charles E. Brame" <charleyb@earthlink.net>
>>To: <info@ackavionics.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 2:57 PM
>>Subject: Rubber Ducky ELT Antenna
>>
>> I understand that you showed a new Rubber Ducky style ELT antenna at
>> Oskosh. If so, where can I order one?
>>
>> Charlie Brame
>> RV-6A N11CB
>> San Antonio
>>
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--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
Dave, I might be interested in your RV-7 project. Please email me the details
( location, askiing price, etc.)
Thanks, Walt Shipley RV-8A N314TS
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| Subject: | Re: where to buy elastic pockets? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
I know Cleveland makes them to order and they do nice work.
James Cimino
RV-8 SN 80039
100+ Hours
570-842-4057
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Boyce, Ph.D." <matronicspost@csg-i.com>
Subject: RV-List: where to buy elastic pockets?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Boyce, Ph.D."
<matronicspost@csg-i.com>
>
> For my newly minted RV-7A, I thought I would be able to find elastic
storage
> pockets at Oshkosh. But I came away empty. I'm looking for the kind I can
> attach to the side fuselage under the panel and also in the baggage area,
to
> keep pens, maps, etc.
>
> Anybody know where I can get these?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
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| Subject: | Brain box mount EFIS ONE |
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
I am redoing the panel in my RV 6A and have yet to find a "good" place to
mount brain box for the Blue mountain EFIS One. Anybody out there with an
installed box and maybe some pictures?
Thanks
Matthew M. Jurotich
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
JWST ISIM Systems Engineer
m/c : 443
e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
phone : 301-286-5919
fax : 301-286-7021
JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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| Subject: | Cool RV pics source |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
Listers,
I was searching for a friend's airliner he's been flying and noticed that
airliners.net also has pics of all kinds of other aircraft in their
database. I found 14 pages of RV's, many of which are of non-USA registry.
Kinda neat to see how the RV community has spread across the planet!
Go to http://www.airliners.net/search/ and search for Vans in the "aircraft
type" window.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD flying 4 years.
RV10 '51 tailcone riveting.
Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and
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| Subject: | Re: Short trip - great plane |
--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
Thanks Scott, I'm going to fly up and check them out today.
Cash
In a message dated 8/7/2004 9:25:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
svanarts@yahoo.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
About $25. Yikes! That's pricey for us Oakdale boys. I mentioned to the
guys in the parking garage that they ought to pick people up at the airport.
They said, "You mean people would actually fly here just to gamble?" Uh...yeah.
I'm going to email the casino and suggest it. Couldn't hurt if others did
the same. I'm not a gambler but I like to see aiports prosper. I think it
would do wonders for Westover's fuel sales if the casino offered free rides to
and from the airport.
JusCash@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
How much was the cab fare to the Casino? I've been looking for a Casino in
Northern California with an airport nearby.
Cash Copeland
Hayward, Ca
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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| Subject: | Super 7 engine mount! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Solberg" <solberg@charter.net>
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Boyd C. Braem? He built a
Super 6 and I am building a Super 7 and need some information about the
engine mount design. Thanks!
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| Subject: | Super 7 engine mount! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Scott I found several possible hits:
1, his e-mail might be bcbraem@comcast.net from Dec 03
There is an MD in Fl. And I know he is from Florida. Might be him.
BOYD C BRAEM MD 6813 S TAMIAMI TRL, SARASOTA, FL (941) 923-5861
PHYSICIANS & SURGEONS. How many BOYD C BRAEM's can there be in Florida?
Looks like he is a member of http://www.eaa1285.org/ where there are
some photo's of his Super 6 in Venice, Fl.
This ought to get you rolling Scott.
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Solberg
Subject: RV-List: Super 7 engine mount!
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Solberg" <solberg@charter.net>
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Boyd C. Braem? He built a
Super 6 and I am building a Super 7 and need some information about the
engine mount design. Thanks!
==
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Anyone here have their panel anodized? Good idea, bad idea?
Thanx,
Jerry Cochran
In a message dated 8/7/2004 11:59:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
Time: 09:14:34 AM PST US
From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Cost of Powder coating
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
my local shop did my mountain bike frame and forks in two colors for 80
bucks......get another quote.
Evan
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| Subject: | Respirator wanted to buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net>
I'm looking to buy a used Hobbyair or equivalent respirator system to use
for painting. Contact me at gra9933@bellsouth.net if you have one you'd like
to part with, or know of someone.
Thanks,
Jordan Grant
RV-6 in the new workshop - getting ready for paint!!
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"Subaru List" <subaruaircraft@yahoogroups.com>,
"Rv7/7A List" <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>, "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>,
"Experimental Avionics" <ExperimentalAvionics@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
A few items still for sale.
I have a Hobbs meter for sale again since the buyer decided not to get it.
http://members.kingston.net/sjhdcl/Stuff%20for%20Sale/rv_stuff_for_sale.htm
do not archive
Steve Hurlbut
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| Subject: | Re: Respirator wanted to buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Jordan Grant wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net>
>
>I'm looking to buy a used Hobbyair or equivalent respirator system to use
>for painting. Contact me at gra9933@bellsouth.net if you have one you'd like
>to part with, or know of someone.
>
>Thanks,
> Jordan Grant
> RV-6 in the new workshop - getting ready for paint!!
>
Let me preface my note with the fact that I've never used the Hobbyair
system, but I did look at it closely. I decided against it because of
the hose and the mobility. Getting around the workpiece in your paint
booth is hard enough with an air hose for the paint gun. Even more so
using the turbine HVLP system. I bought a good 3m (I think) 2 stage
respirator that has both a solids and carbon filter. I also placed good
air conditioning elements in the back of my booth, and a large fan in
the front. This gives me good cross-ventilation and keeps all the
nasties out of my lungs.
Hopefully you'll hear from someone who has actually used the unit and
can comment on whether it was worth the cost. 'Course if they're
selling theirs ...... ;-)
YMMV
Linn
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Respirator wanted to buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Ammeter <jammeter@comcast.net>
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 21:30:31 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>
>Jordan Grant wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jordan Grant" <gra9933@bellsouth.net>
>>
>>I'm looking to buy a used Hobbyair or equivalent respirator system to use
>>for painting. Contact me at gra9933@bellsouth.net if you have one you'd like
>>to part with, or know of someone.
>>
>>Thanks,
>> Jordan Grant
>> RV-6 in the new workshop - getting ready for paint!!
>>
>
>Let me preface my note with the fact that I've never used the Hobbyair
>system, but I did look at it closely. I decided against it because of
>the hose and the mobility. Getting around the workpiece in your paint
>booth is hard enough with an air hose for the paint gun. Even more so
>using the turbine HVLP system. I bought a good 3m (I think) 2 stage
>respirator that has both a solids and carbon filter. I also placed good
>air conditioning elements in the back of my booth, and a large fan in
>the front. This gives me good cross-ventilation and keeps all the
>nasties out of my lungs.
>Hopefully you'll hear from someone who has actually used the unit and
>can comment on whether it was worth the cost. 'Course if they're
>selling theirs ...... ;-)
>YMMV
>Linn
>
My experience was with the two part urethane paint and I
used that type of respirator... 2 stage filter. I also was
"high as a kite" for about an hour or so after painting only
the interior of the cockpit.
I was told, later, that there are chemicals/gases that are
not filtered by that type of respirator that can kill you...
I'd recommend living, pun intended, with the inconvience of
dragging that hose around the shop...
John
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| Subject: | Re: Respirator wanted to buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
John Ammeter wrote:
>My experience was with the two part urethane paint and I
>used that type of respirator... 2 stage filter. I also was
>"high as a kite" for about an hour or so after painting only
>the interior of the cockpit.
>
>I was told, later, that there are chemicals/gases that are
>not filtered by that type of respirator that can kill you...
>
>I'd recommend living, pun intended, with the inconvience of
>dragging that hose around the shop...
>
>John
>
I find that most interesting. The 2-part urethanes don't have a lot of
volatiles (thinner) in them and the carbon filter should have taken care
of any reducers you added. If the carbon filters lay around for a while
they will become saturated with normal atmospheric gasses and become
almost useless. I have painted quite a lot of urethanes (no, painting
isn't my profession) with no problems whatsoever with a good 2-part
respirator .... well, none that are apparent anyway! :-) . Then again
my paint booth is well ventilated. Your caution is well taken, and
anyone using urethane paints should make sure that their respirator is
capable of handling that medium. Urethanes aren't to be trifled with as
the solids become a permanent part of your lungs when inhaled. I know
of two cases where painters have died from repeated exposures to
urethane paints over a long period of time ..... both deaths resulted
from lack of a respirator of any type. If you have some reservations
about the 2-part respirator ..... by all means use the fresh-air
(Hobbyair) system ..... better safe than sorry.
Linn
>
>
>
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| Subject: | LED Navigation Light Project |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV-7A Builder" <RV-7A@Austin.RR.com>
Here's an update for all interested parties.....
http://www.jeffsrv7a.com/LEDPROJECT.htm
Jeff
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" <cwarner@twcny.rr.com>
At Oshkosh this year I heard the best explanation of the need for a fresh air breathing
system. The Tech support guy for Poly Fiber(sorry I don't remember his
name) explained it this way. Everybody has a tea cup attached to their hip.
Everybody's cup is a different size. When the toxins from spraying paint enter
your body through, lungs, eyes and skin, it remains in your liver and kidney
forever. What you absorb when your 20 will be there when your 90. When your tea
cup gets full you get sick. That is why some people get a reaction the first
time they are exposed (small tea cup) others never are affected (big cup). The
bottom line is nobody knows how much exposure is too much for them ( cup size).
After having painted 3 RV's and not knowing what level my personnel cup was
I decided to spend $400 for a Hoby-air with a full hood
.
He also stated that a charcoal respirator will not absorb the cyanide contained
in the hardener for the newer acrylic paints.
Best regards
Craig Warner
N2851P
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| Subject: | Re: LED Navigation Light Project |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Impressive!
RV-7A Builder <RV-7A@Austin.RR.com> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "RV-7A
Builder"
Here's an update for all interested parties.....
http://www.jeffsrv7a.com/LEDPROJECT.htm
Jeff
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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| Subject: | Re: Respirator wanted to buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Wessel" <robin.wessel@verizon.net>
I considered buying the hobby air system with the hooded mask option. For
$400 it is overpriced. Here is what I did:
-Bought a Bullard hood (the same make and model as what Hobby air resells)
for $40. You can find them on e-bay or at most safety supply stores.
-Bought non-self sealing garden hose disconnects from Home Depot for $5.
This is exactly what Hobby Air uses
-Connected them to a section of corrugated hose from Vans or a garden hose
$0. Similar to what Hobby air uses
-Bought a small portable wet/dry vac from home depot to use as the air
source $25. Plenty of other uses of course
-Bought a router speed control from Harbor freight on sale for $12.99 to
control the vac=92s speed.
-Found some old printer transparencies an cut them to shape to act as
protectors for the hood $0.
After plugging this all together, the entire system works great! The last
plane I painted, I used a regular mask connected to the system w/out air eye
protection. I would highly recommend that your eyes are protected with fresh
air as the paint will definitely irritate them.
So for well under $100 I have a system that performs equally as well as the
$400 hobby air.
Robin Wessel
RV-10 wings
Tigard, OR
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| Subject: | How to make a fresh air respirator |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
This system costs less than $120 and gives you filtered air from a remote
location, similar to a Hobby Air.
1. Get a small shop vac called "The Stinger" from Home Depot for about
$28. Use it only for your respirator.
2. Get a Tyvek painting hood from an auto paint supplier for about $28.
3. Get a swimming pool vacuum hose, 1.5" diameter, about $40-50, a little
less in the fall when business slows. I bought 50 feet, it is also sold in
40 ft. lengths; Hobby Air uses 40 ft.
4. Pick up a belt clip from your hardware store's key section and a hose
clamp for your pool hose.
Take the small orange attachment from the shop vac and cut off the spreader
portion, saving the round tube portion. This is your adapter you will use
to mate the pool hose to the shop vac hose. Connect the pool hose to the
shop vac hose and the hood, but making sure you use the end that swivels
for the spray hood. Attach the belt clip to the pool hose near the hood
with a zip tie.
Take an old baseball cap and cut off the bill. Attach that to the inside
of the hood with a couple safety pins or whatever such that it your head
movements.
Put a belt around your chest and use the belt clip to keep the hose weight
from pulling on the hood.
Locate the vac in a safe location & spray away! Be sure to be aware of any
changes in the wind.
Notes:
1. If you try to go cheap & use 1 1/4" pool hose it will set up a howl
that earplugs won't even begin to deal with. The larger diameter hose
reduces the velocity & removes the howl. However, a fellow builder did go
with the smaller hose and reports that placing an old 35mm film can in the
hose slowed the air enough to quiet the howl. I have not tried this. The
1 1/4" hose will connect directly to the shop vac hose without the adapter.
2. I have not tried the baseball cap thing yet. I have used the system
without it and as I tilt my head up or down the hood does not follow. So
far, I have always had a free hand to adjust the hood as necessary, but I
do intend to try the baseball cap thing, just haven't needed to yet.
3. There are peel off lenses available for the hood. Some paint suppliers
carry them, some don't, some that do only sell them in a package , rather
than individually. You may have to cough up ~ $25 for a package of them.
Richard Scott
RV-9A Emp almost done
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| Subject: | Re: Respirator wanted to buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jaye and Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
Almost exactly the system that I cobbled up to spray Dupont Imron on my RV.
I used the blower from a Campbell-Hausfield HVLP cheapo plastic gun, coupled
to crush-proof black plastic water line for outdoor ponds, tywrapped into a
disposable painter's hood.
The small hose diameter does indeed cause the air to generate a roaring
sound, easily tamed with foamy earplugs.
Works so well, can't fog the window on the hood no matter how hard I
hyperventilate( do that a lot as the sags start) nor can I taste what I had
for supper when I belch...
Scott in VAncouver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Wessel" <robin.wessel@verizon.net>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Respirator wanted to buy
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Wessel" <robin.wessel@verizon.net>
>
> I considered buying the hobby air system with the hooded mask option. For
> $400 it is overpriced. Here is what I did:
>
>
> -Bought a Bullard hood (the same make and model as what Hobby air resells)
> for $40. You can find them on e-bay or at most safety supply stores.
>
> -Bought non-self sealing garden hose disconnects from Home Depot for $5.
> This is exactly what Hobby Air uses
>
> -Connected them to a section of corrugated hose from Vans or a garden hose
> $0. Similar to what Hobby air uses
>
> -Bought a small portable wet/dry vac from home depot to use as the air
> source $25. Plenty of other uses of course
>
> -Bought a router speed control from Harbor freight on sale for $12.99 to
> control the vac=92s speed.
>
> -Found some old printer transparencies an cut them to shape to act as
> protectors for the hood $0.
>
>
> After plugging this all together, the entire system works great! The last
> plane I painted, I used a regular mask connected to the system w/out air
eye
> protection. I would highly recommend that your eyes are protected with
fresh
> air as the paint will definitely irritate them.
>
>
> So for well under $100 I have a system that performs equally as well as
the
> $400 hobby air.
>
>
> Robin Wessel
>
> RV-10 wings
>
> Tigard, OR
>
>
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