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1. 03:32 AM - Super 7 engine mount! (WALTER KERR)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Short trip - great plane (Wayne R. Couture)
3. 06:30 AM - Re: Anodize Panel? (Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers)
4. 07:01 AM - Labeling wiring (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
5. 07:08 AM - Re: LED Navigation Light Project (Doug Rozendaal)
6. 07:18 AM - Re: Short trip - great plane (Scott Vanartsdalen)
7. 07:34 AM - Blue Mountain EFIS 1 (Mark Taylor)
8. 07:47 AM - Aileron Trim (George Neal E Capt AU/PC)
9. 08:51 AM - northeast R builders (Brian Meyette)
10. 09:08 AM - Re: Aileron Trim (Dr. Peter Laurence)
11. 09:27 AM - Fly-in this month... (Bill VonDane)
12. 09:28 AM - Re: Short trip - great plane (JusCash@aol.com)
13. 09:48 AM - Re: Fly-in this month... (Doug Brinlee)
14. 12:55 PM - Re: Aileron Trim (Jim Oke)
15. 01:12 PM - Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. (Terry Mortimore)
16. 01:41 PM - Re: Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose (Scott Bilinski)
17. 01:44 PM - Fuel Servo problem (Berthet, Andre G)
18. 03:08 PM - APV Cafe - Apple Valley, CA (Tom Gummo)
19. 03:09 PM - Re: Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel (Tedd McHenry)
20. 04:21 PM - Re: LED Navigation Light Project (Martin Hone)
21. 04:38 PM - Re: Fuel Servo problem (cgalley)
22. 05:19 PM - Re: Fuel Servo problem (Alex Peterson)
23. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: LED Navigation Light Project (Doug Rozendaal)
24. 05:30 PM - Re: Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. (Alex Peterson)
25. 05:44 PM - Recreational destination - Not building related (Scott Vanartsdalen)
26. 06:11 PM - Re: Fuel Servo problem (cgalley)
27. 06:21 PM - Re: Respirators (Kyle Boatright)
28. 08:41 PM - 7A Flap Hinge Fun - Or not (Karie Daniel)
29. 08:58 PM - Re: 7A Flap Hinge Fun - Or not (Karie Daniel)
30. 08:58 PM - First Flight N266WB (Doug Bell)
31. 09:55 PM - Fitting Completed Fuel Tank ()
32. 10:03 PM - Cleaning hanger - items (Steve & Denise)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
From: "Scott Solberg" <solberg@charter.net>
Subject: RV-List: Super 7 engine mount!
Hi Scot,
Boyd used to come to our breakfast and he registered his phone as 941-966-6015
Bernie Kerr, 6A sold , hope to get medical back soon and start flying my rotary
powered 9A
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Subject: | Re: Short trip - great plane |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne R. Couture" <commando@cox-internet.com>
Out here in Louisiana we have several airports near Indian casino's and
they not only provide transportation but have small trailers set up with air
conditioning and cold drinks where you can wait for the bus. Some even
contribute money to the airport. At one airport, if you make your approach
over the casino they will see you and have a bus there before you unload
from the plane!
Wayne
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Vanartsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Short trip - great plane
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>
> About $25. Yikes! That's pricey for us Oakdale boys. I mentioned to the
guys in the parking garage that they ought to pick people up at the airport.
They said, "You mean people would actually fly here just to gamble?"
Uh...yeah. I'm going to email the casino and suggest it. Couldn't hurt if
others did the same. I'm not a gambler but I like to see aiports prosper.
I think it would do wonders for Westover's fuel sales if the casino offered
free rides to and from the airport.
>
> JusCash@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
>
> How much was the cab fare to the Casino? I've been looking for a Casino in
> Northern California with an airport nearby.
>
> Cash Copeland
> Hayward, Ca
>
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
>
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From: | "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne@engravers.net> |
Subject: | Re: Anodize Panel? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne@engravers.net>
Jerry,
I've seen it from time to time and how it finally looks depends on a few
different things.
How do you want it labeled? Engraved (standard or laser), silk screened,
placarded etc...
Different methods of labeling may need a specific finish on the aluminum
such as smooth or a brushed texture to have legible text when completed.
If you engrave the panel it will expose the aluminum to oxidation so it will
have to be clear-coated to protect it. This is also true with silk screening
if there are any areas of high wear such as around a flaps switch.
To keep this brief I've given you just a few of the things to be concerned
with, there are many other labeling types with their own pros and cons.
There is a process that we do that will give your panel the look as if it
came from the factory. Visit
http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/painted_panels.htm to see how a painted
panel can look like.
If you call me I can go over this in as much detail as needed for you to
make an informed decision as apposed to a couple of brief highlighted
points.
Wayne Cahoon
Aircraft Engravers
(860) 653-2780
(860) 653-7324 Fax
http://www.engravers.net
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jerry2DT@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Anodize Panel?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
>
>
> Anyone here have their panel anodized? Good idea, bad idea?
>
> Thanx,
> Jerry Cochran
>
> In a message dated 8/7/2004 11:59:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>
> Time: 09:14:34 AM PST US
> From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Cost of Powder coating
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
<evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
> my local shop did my mountain bike frame and forks in two colors for 80
> bucks......get another quote.
>
> Evan
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
I found that I could write by hand on white heat shrink tubing before putting
it on the wire. Use a Sharpie Twin-tip pen (they come in colors, too). When
the heat shrink shrinks, so does the writing. Easy, cheap and works real
well.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (About 35 hours now)
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Subject: | Re: LED Navigation Light Project |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
I have a dumb question,
Why has no one made an LED bulb cluster that will plug into the Nav lights I
have on my airplane? I would buy a set for $50 bucks, or maybe even $100.
My electric budget is very short at night and this is just what I need! And
I don't want to cut any tin, just change the bulbs. Maybe the colored LEDs
could be potted into a clear lens that replaced the colored lens with a
short wire and a plug that went into the lamp socket?
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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Subject: | Re: Short trip - great plane |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Yeah I'm going to email their management. The people at the casino I talked to
were incredulous. "You mean people would actually fly in to the airport just
to come gamble?"
Duh.
"Wayne R. Couture" <commando@cox-internet.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne R. Couture"
Out here in Louisiana we have several airports near Indian casino's and
they not only provide transportation but have small trailers set up with air
conditioning and cold drinks where you can wait for the bus. Some even
contribute money to the airport. At one airport, if you make your approach
over the casino they will see you and have a bus there before you unload
from the plane!
Wayne
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Vanartsdalen"
Subject: Re: RV-List: Short trip - great plane
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen
>
> About $25. Yikes! That's pricey for us Oakdale boys. I mentioned to the
guys in the parking garage that they ought to pick people up at the airport.
They said, "You mean people would actually fly here just to gamble?"
Uh...yeah. I'm going to email the casino and suggest it. Couldn't hurt if
others did the same. I'm not a gambler but I like to see aiports prosper.
I think it would do wonders for Westover's fuel sales if the casino offered
free rides to and from the airport.
>
> JusCash@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
>
> How much was the cab fare to the Casino? I've been looking for a Casino in
> Northern California with an airport nearby.
>
> Cash Copeland
> Hayward, Ca
>
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
>
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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Subject: | Blue Mountain EFIS 1 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
Matt,
Check out the EFIS page on my website...
http://home.comcast.net/~mtaylo17/RV7/
It'll help, but in an already complete airframe(?) it may be a bit tricky!
Mark
Time: 08:39:20 AM PST US
From: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
Subject: RV-List: Brain box mount EFIS ONE
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
I am redoing the panel in my RV 6A and have yet to find a "good" place to
mount brain box for the Blue mountain EFIS One. Anybody out there with an
installed box and maybe some pictures?
Thanks
Matthew M. Jurotich
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
JWST ISIM Systems Engineer
m/c : 443
e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
phone : 301-286-5919
fax : 301-286-7021
JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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--> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
Listers -
Since I have another two months to wait for Vans to ship my standard wing
kit, I'd like to hear some comments, experiences or recommendations
regarding manual vs. electric aileron trim in the RV-7.
Neal
RV-7 N8ZG
(STILL waiting for wings)
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Since I have another two months to wait for Vans to ship my
standard
wing kit, I'd like to hear some comments, experiences or recommendations
regarding manual vs. electric aileron trim in the RV-7.
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Neal
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>RV-7 N8ZG
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>(STILL waiting for wings)
<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
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Subject: | northeast R builders |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
There is a RV Forum in Fulton, NY Sept 11. I went to this last year, and
thought it was very good.
See www.eaachapter486.com
brian
---
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Subject: | Re: Aileron Trim |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Peter Laurence" <dr.laurence@mbdi.org>
Neal
go to Eric Jones's website.http://www.periheliondesign.com/moreproducts.htm
Take a look at his electronic trimwheel.
Peter
RV9A
waiting for wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Neal E Capt AU/PC" <Neal.George@maxwell.af.mil>
Subject: RV-List: Aileron Trim
> --> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
>
> Listers -
>
>
> Since I have another two months to wait for Vans to ship my standard wing
> kit, I'd like to hear some comments, experiences or recommendations
> regarding manual vs. electric aileron trim in the RV-7.
>
>
> Neal
>
> RV-7 N8ZG
>
> (STILL waiting for wings)
>
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> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Since I have another two months to wait for Vans to
ship my standard
> wing kit, I'd like to hear some comments, experiences or recommendations
> regarding manual vs. electric aileron trim in the RV-7.
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>(STILL waiting for wings)
>
>
> <span style='font-size:
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>
>
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Subject: | Fly-in this month... |
rv-8@yahoogroups.com, RV10@yahoogroups.com
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Just wanted to drop you all a not to let you know that EAA Chapter 72 in
Colorado is having a fly-in on the 21st of August...
We'll be serving breakfast and lunch...
Nothing special, just a good time, good food, and good people...
www.eaa72.org
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Short trip - great plane |
--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
I'm going to E-mail them also. Flying in would be a great day trip for my
other half to go flying with me.
Cash
In a message dated 8/9/2004 7:19:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
svanarts@yahoo.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Yeah I'm going to email their management. The people at the casino I talked
to were incredulous. "You mean people would actually fly in to the airport
just to come gamble?"
Duh.
"Wayne R. Couture" <commando@cox-internet.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne R. Couture"
Out here in Louisiana we have several airports near Indian casino's and
they not only provide transportation but have small trailers set up with air
conditioning and cold drinks where you can wait for the bus. Some even
contribute money to the airport. At one airport, if you make your approach
over the casino they will see you and have a bus there before you unload
from the plane!
Wayne
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Vanartsdalen"
Subject: Re: RV-List: Short trip - great plane
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen
>
> About $25. Yikes! That's pricey for us Oakdale boys. I mentioned to the
guys in the parking garage that they ought to pick people up at the airport.
They said, "You mean people would actually fly here just to gamble?"
Uh...yeah. I'm going to email the casino and suggest it. Couldn't hurt if
others did the same. I'm not a gambler but I like to see aiports prosper.
I think it would do wonders for Westover's fuel sales if the casino offered
free rides to and from the airport.
>
> JusCash@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
>
> How much was the cab fare to the Casino? I've been looking for a Casino in
> Northern California with an airport nearby.
>
> Cash Copeland
> Hayward, Ca
>
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
>
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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Subject: | Re: Fly-in this month... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Brinlee" <abfbrinlee@att.net>
Bill,
Wanted to thank you for your courtesy at the airport over the weekend...
I am kicking myself for not taking a flight with you.. think the altitude
must have made me a little slow... Sandi was wanting to get back to the
springs to meet my daughter.
I was very impressed with the plane. Hope you had a great flight.. sure
looks good on our video.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
<rv-8@yahoogroups.com>; <RV10@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RV-List: Fly-in this month...
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
>
> Just wanted to drop you all a not to let you know that EAA Chapter 72 in
> Colorado is having a fly-in on the 21st of August...
>
> We'll be serving breakfast and lunch...
>
> Nothing special, just a good time, good food, and good people...
>
> www.eaa72.org
>
> do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Aileron Trim |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Hi Neal;
Roll forces on an RV are very light so an aileron trim is not needed in the
sense of reducing control forces but more in the sense of dealing with small
and subtle roll trim changes during cruise flight due to, for instance, fuel
burn from one tank at a time. Thus roll trim mostly consists of a tiny, once
every half hour or so, adjustments.
From my practical experience in a -6A, the Vans manual trim system is more
than adequate for this purpose. It is also, simple, light, and involves no
mods to the aileron itself. There is also no wiring with fuses/circuit
breakers to deal with in the fuselage or out on the wing. The only slight
downside it that the manual trim system makes removing the seat pans a bit
more time consuming than a pure electric system with, for instance, stick
mounted trim button.
Maybe, I am just a just a traditionalist as I find the Vans manual elevator
trim system also perfectly adequate and simple, direct acting, with no lag,
etc.
So my advice would be to stick with the Vans manual elevator and aileron
trim systems and leave tinkering with unnecessary electric trim systems
alone.
Others will, I am sure, disagree.
Jim Oke
RV-3, RV-6A
Wpg., MB
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Neal E Capt AU/PC" <Neal.George@maxwell.af.mil>
Subject: RV-List: Aileron Trim
> --> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
>
> Listers -
>
>
> Since I have another two months to wait for Vans to ship my standard wing
> kit, I'd like to hear some comments, experiences or recommendations
> regarding manual vs. electric aileron trim in the RV-7.
>
>
> Neal
>
> RV-7 N8ZG
>
> (STILL waiting for wings)
>
>
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> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Since I have another two months to wait for Vans to
ship my standard
> wing kit, I'd like to hear some comments, experiences or recommendations
> regarding manual vs. electric aileron trim in the RV-7.
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Neal
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>RV-7 N8ZG
>
>
> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>(STILL waiting for wings)
>
>
> <span style='font-size:
> 12.0pt'>
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>
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Subject: | Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Terry Mortimore <terry.mortimore@shaw.ca>
Hi Gang:
I'm finally going to be able to get back to building my RV-6A after too
long a break. I'm going to order my fuselage kit and I have to decide
which version to build.
My situation has changed and it looks like I will be based on a 2000
foot grass strip that does have some rough spots. At the time I was
forced to put my project on the back burner there was a problem with the
nose wheel rod on the 6A's, some had broken and I believe there was a
recall of sorts.
My question, have there been any problems since? Has the problem been
corrected?
I would prefer the 6A, but if there is any doubt about it I would go
with the 6 and get some tailwheel training.
thanks, terry.
Terry Mortimore,
426 McNabb Street
Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
Canada P6B-1Z3
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Subject: | Re: Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose |
wheel problems.
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> wheel
problems.
From what I have read either model can end up on its nose. Full up
elevator really helps on an A model. Traditionally a tail dragger appears
to be the more off road capable. Call the factory to verify the latest in
landing gear changes.
At 03:58 PM 8/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Terry Mortimore <terry.mortimore@shaw.ca>
>
>
>Hi Gang:
>
>I'm finally going to be able to get back to building my RV-6A after too
>long a break. I'm going to order my fuselage kit and I have to decide
>which version to build.
>
>My situation has changed and it looks like I will be based on a 2000
>foot grass strip that does have some rough spots. At the time I was
>forced to put my project on the back burner there was a problem with the
>nose wheel rod on the 6A's, some had broken and I believe there was a
>recall of sorts.
>
>My question, have there been any problems since? Has the problem been
>corrected?
>
>I would prefer the 6A, but if there is any doubt about it I would go
>with the 6 and get some tailwheel training.
>
>
> thanks, terry.
>
>
>Terry Mortimore,
>426 McNabb Street
>Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
>Canada P6B-1Z3
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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Subject: | Fuel Servo problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Berthet, Andre G" <andre.g.berthet@intel.com>
I have an IO-360-A1A and have a strange problem. When the engine is hot,
turning the booster pump ON will results in a substantial drop of RPM.
Let say if I set my engine speed to 1300 RPM and then turn the booster
ON, the engine speed will decrease by about 500 RPM. Of course if I do
that at a normal idling of 700 RPM, the engine just quit. My servo has
been overhauled in January, re-inspected in June and I'm sending it back
again. The flow divider and the fuel nozzles have been overhauled last
June too. Also the idling speed is changing depending if the engine is
hot or cold. My mixture is adjusted for a 25 RPM rise at ICO.
My engine driven pump alone produces 23 PSI of fuel pressure, and when
the booster pump is turned ON it increases the pressure to 28 PSI.
Could anyone have suggestions how to fix this problem?
Andre
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"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>,
"SoCal RV List" <socal-rvlist@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: | APV Cafe - Apple Valley, CA |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Everybody,
The airport cafe is under new management. For those of you who stopped coming
because of the last operator, she is GONE. Apple Valley should be a good
place to get the hundred dollar hamburger again. Stop in and give it a try.
BTW, the APV airport is going to have an open house and pancake breakfast free
for "fly-ins" on Saturday Oct 2 from 8:00 to 10:00.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
N561FS - 205 hours
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
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Subject: | Re: Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel |
problems.
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
Terry:
Van's came out with a revised -6A nosegear after doing some fatigue testing a
few years ago. There's probably information about it on their web site, or you
could just call.
I would think that any field that was smooth enough that you'd want to operate
off it daily with a -6 would also be smooth enough for a -6A. (Before anyone
jumps on me for being nosegear biased: I'm building a -6.)
---
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: LED Navigation Light Project |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au>
Hi Doug,
If you want to go with a simple bulb change, there are LED replacements
currently avaliable. I have seen them advertised in electronic component
catalogues, as well as some motorcycle accessory suppliers. They are ideal
as tail-light globes in that high vibration environment. You can get them in
red and clear, dunno about green though......
Just a thought....
Martin in Oz
RV6 flying
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Servo problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Don't turn on the pump. We lost a plane that turned the pump on during the
first flight, killed the engine and could not restart because it was
flooded. Ask Greg Young. Pump is a standby for when the engine pump fails.
Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Berthet, Andre G" <andre.g.berthet@intel.com>
Subject: RV-List: Fuel Servo problem
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Berthet, Andre G"
<andre.g.berthet@intel.com>
>
> I have an IO-360-A1A and have a strange problem. When the engine is hot,
> turning the booster pump ON will results in a substantial drop of RPM.
> Let say if I set my engine speed to 1300 RPM and then turn the booster
> ON, the engine speed will decrease by about 500 RPM. Of course if I do
> that at a normal idling of 700 RPM, the engine just quit. My servo has
> been overhauled in January, re-inspected in June and I'm sending it back
> again. The flow divider and the fuel nozzles have been overhauled last
> June too. Also the idling speed is changing depending if the engine is
> hot or cold. My mixture is adjusted for a 25 RPM rise at ICO.
>
> My engine driven pump alone produces 23 PSI of fuel pressure, and when
> the booster pump is turned ON it increases the pressure to 28 PSI.
>
> Could anyone have suggestions how to fix this problem?
>
> Andre
>
>
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Subject: | Fuel Servo problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
> Don't turn on the pump. We lost a plane that turned the pump
> on during the first flight, killed the engine and could not
> restart because it was flooded. Ask Greg Young. Pump is a
> standby for when the engine pump fails.
>
> Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
> Safety Programs Editor - TC
> EAA Sport Pilot
Cy, I believe you. However, what sort of fuel servos are we talking
about? I can't imagine (again, I believe it) why anyone would design a
fuel servo that was that sensitive to fuel pressure. I understand that
some Bonanzas are not to have the boost pump on unless mechanical pump
failure.
Just FYI, the Airflow Performance servo is not affected by the increase
in fuel pressure when the boost pump is on. In fact, that is how one
can determine if the base engine pump pressure is adequate - fuel flow
on full power, full rich, should not increase when the boost pump
increases the pressure a few psi.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 510 hours
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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Subject: | Re: LED Navigation Light Project |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Ok I found some LED bulbs, here:
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR
Does anyone know if a 1156 bulb will fit in a grimes nav light socket??? If
not, what are the technical specs on the bayonet on a Nav light bulb???
Doug Rozendaal
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Subject: | Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
> Terry:
>
> Van's came out with a revised -6A nosegear after doing some
> fatigue testing a few years ago. There's probably
> information about it on their web site, or you could just call.
>
> I would think that any field that was smooth enough that
> you'd want to operate off it daily with a -6 would also be
> smooth enough for a -6A. (Before anyone jumps on me for
> being nosegear biased: I'm building a -6.)
>
I would not agree in general with that statement. I would classify
crummy field condition as the single best reason to put up with whatever
challenges one might feel a taildragger might have. The conditions
which are nasty for the trikes are the waves in the field, perhaps
something like 20 feet long. The problem with those is that they may
resonate with the natural frequency of the plane's oscillations. I've
been in quite a few grass strips, and they all have some degree of this
waviness. The best technique that I've found is to hold some aft stick
during the rollout (or takeoff), but not full aft stick. AND, do not
try to control the pitch attitude of the plane with the elevators during
any field induced excursions - you will only get into a PIO. Hold some
aft stick and freeze it there. Now, large holes in the field are an
entirely different animal...
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 510 hours
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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Subject: | Recreational destination - Not building related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
There were several who emailed me and asked me about my trip to Jackson/Westover
Field and the Jackson Rancheria Casino. I emailed them and asked them about
transportation to and from the airport. This was the reply I received:
Dear Scott
My Name is Dennis Brown Im the Director of Transportation Services for the Jackson
Rancheria. I want to thank your for your suggestion and let you know
that we do offer that from the airport in Jackson. If you and the other people
that are interested in being transported would contact the Casino Managers office
with a date and time of arrival they can contact my office with the information
and we will make the arrangements to pick you up. The phone number for the Casino
Managers office is 209-223-8243 or you can contact me at 209-223-8297. If I can
be of any further assistants please feel free to call me.
Dennis Brown
Director
Transportation Services
209-223-8297
E-mail dbrown@jacksoncasino.com
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Servo problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I am not an A&P nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. I
discussed Greg Young's problem at the time with my IA, a well-known Bonanza
Mechanic. He said that this is a well known problem when the boost pump has
more pressure than the engine driven one. My SWAG would be to reduce the
pressure to what the engine driven pump is required to produce for the
injection system.
Cy Galley
Safety Programs Editor
EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel Servo problem
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
<alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
>
> >
> > Don't turn on the pump. We lost a plane that turned the pump
> > on during the first flight, killed the engine and could not
> > restart because it was flooded. Ask Greg Young. Pump is a
> > standby for when the engine pump fails.
> >
> > Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
> > Safety Programs Editor - TC
> > EAA Sport Pilot
>
> Cy, I believe you. However, what sort of fuel servos are we talking
> about? I can't imagine (again, I believe it) why anyone would design a
> fuel servo that was that sensitive to fuel pressure. I understand that
> some Bonanzas are not to have the boost pump on unless mechanical pump
> failure.
>
> Just FYI, the Airflow Performance servo is not affected by the increase
> in fuel pressure when the boost pump is on. In fact, that is how one
> can determine if the base engine pump pressure is adequate - fuel flow
> on full power, full rich, should not increase when the boost pump
> increases the pressure a few psi.
>
> Alex Peterson
> Maple Grove, MN
> RV6-A N66AP 510 hours
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
You can build your own respirator for under $50. Check the archives for
details...
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Warner" <cwarner@twcny.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: Respirators
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" <cwarner@twcny.rr.com>
>
> At Oshkosh this year I heard the best explanation of the need for a fresh
air breathing system. The Tech support guy for Poly Fiber(sorry I don't
remember his name) explained it this way. Everybody has a tea cup attached
to their hip. Everybody's cup is a different size. When the toxins from
spraying paint enter your body through, lungs, eyes and skin, it remains in
your liver and kidney forever. What you absorb when your 20 will be there
when your 90. When your tea cup gets full you get sick. That is why some
people get a reaction the first time they are exposed (small tea cup) others
never are affected (big cup). The bottom line is nobody knows how much
exposure is too much for them ( cup size). After having painted 3 RV's and
not knowing what level my personnel cup was I decided to spend $400 for a
Hoby-air with a full hood
> .
> He also stated that a charcoal respirator will not absorb the cyanide
contained in the hardener for the newer acrylic paints.
>
> Best regards
> Craig Warner
> N2851P
>
>
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Subject: | 7A Flap Hinge Fun - Or not |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
I have been reading the archives and looking at web sites and I'm slightly perplexed
regarding the (what should be) simple installation of the flaps.
1. Is this the correct order - Dimple the skin, countersink the brace to accept
the skin dimple, and leave the hinge alone. So the brace is between the top skin
and the hinge bracket? Just doesn't look right that way.
2. Also if you look at the pictures at http://brian76.mystarband.net/WingsMar03.htm (BTW...thanks Brian for documenting this on the web site) the hinge protrudes about an inch and a half or so inboard. In other words it isn't riveted to the skin, hinge bracket and brace. Only the bracket and brace go all the way inboard. Do I just rivet those or does something attach later? I can't find anything that does.
Thanks,
Karie Daniel
RV-7A QB (feels like a slow build)
Sammamish, WA.
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Subject: | Re: 7A Flap Hinge Fun - Or not |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
OK....I looked at dwg 14A just after sending this and the answer to question
#1 is in glowing neon. I swear I looked at it for an hour before sending the
mail. I'm still wondering about #2 though.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: 7A Flap Hinge Fun - Or not
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
>
> I have been reading the archives and looking at web sites and I'm slightly
perplexed regarding the (what should be) simple installation of the flaps.
>
> 1. Is this the correct order - Dimple the skin, countersink the brace to
accept the skin dimple, and leave the hinge alone. So the brace is between
the top skin and the hinge bracket? Just doesn't look right that way.
>
> 2. Also if you look at the pictures at
http://brian76.mystarband.net/WingsMar03.htm (BTW...thanks Brian for
documenting this on the web site) the hinge protrudes about an inch and a
half or so inboard. In other words it isn't riveted to the skin, hinge
bracket and brace. Only the bracket and brace go all the way inboard. Do I
just rivet those or does something attach later? I can't find anything that
does.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karie Daniel
> RV-7A QB (feels like a slow build)
> Sammamish, WA.
>
>
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Subject: | First Flight N266WB |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Bell" <dbell@manisteenational.com>
Well,
After 5 1/2 years of building and working as all others have, N266WB took flight
on a perfect summer Sunday in Northern Michigan
RV8
Kit # 80889
O360 A4M
Fixed pitch Catto 3 Blade Prop
Ellison Throttle Body
Basic VFR
My father and I have been slowing down this quick build for a while now but it
all came to a perfect first flight at 830pm on 8/8/04. The flight went very well
and lasted about 35 minutes. Take off was as expected and I spent most of
the time around 3500-4500 ft making gradual passes around the field in Cadillac
MI. One high speed run indicated 145mph but I was not trimmed properly so
I was climbing most of the run. All temps stayed in line and I never felt anything
but confidence. Only thing that I noticed was a heavy left wing. Landing
was pretty good if I do say so myself and caught on film it looks good every
time I replay it.
Many thanks go out to all the listers I read emails from. I read more than contribute
and appreciate all of your emails.
Thanks to Danny King for a thanksgiving weekend ride for me and an earlier one
for my father, to Mike Seger for early RV training flights and to Dave Lammers
of Cedar Rapids IA. I flew last week with Dave for my RV checkout and his training
gave me all the confidence I needed for first flight. I would highly recommend
anyone flying with Dave if you can. First class in every way and a terrific
instructor. Thanks to my Co Building Dad and his inspiration to me to
tackle this project. We did it together and that is awesome. To may Mom for
supplying lunch and dinner so many nights and winter days and to my broter Mike
for keeping the hanger plowed open in the winter.
My sweetheart Ann, and the kids deserve many thanks for dealing with this crazy
idea and putting up with the final push to complete it. Family really does suffer
at some or all times while these things get built. Kudos to all you "better
halfs" out there.
So many other people are involved along the way and all deserve thanks. Vans support
was always great and I look forward to many trips and meeting all of you
out there at some fly in.
Look for the RV 8 with a golfer on the tail.
Here to seeing you all soon.
Doug Bell Jr., PGA
RV8
N266WB
Flying..........Oh that sounds so good!
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Subject: | Fitting Completed Fuel Tank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
All,
I am finishing up my last wing and I have run into a unique problem. When fitting
the completed right fuel tank on the main spar, it does not want to fully
seat on the inboard side. There seems to be a large bulge on bottom side near
the spar/baffle intersection for the first inboard foot or so. I have done the
following:
- trimmed the excess proseal from the affected baffle intersection area to ensure
there is no interference
- re-shimmed the main spar to ensure there was no twist
- redone the string test to ensure there was no sag in the middle.
I can't for the life of me see what is going on, and I did not have this problem
on the first wing. The bulge is pretty excessive (1/8 - 1/4 inch), so it really
does not seem right. Anyone ever experienced this? Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Scott
7A Wings
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Subject: | Cleaning hanger - items |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
Please see my website for some items I need to get rid of:
http://members.kingston.net/sjhdcl/Stuff%20for%20Sale/rv_stuff_for_sale.htm
do not archive
Steve Hurlbut
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