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1. 01:08 AM - Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Charles Rowbotham)
2. 01:42 AM - Re: Reassembly at the airport (Mickey Coggins)
3. 03:21 AM - Re: Fuel Boost Pump Location RV-6 (Jim Sears)
4. 03:48 AM - Ameri-King Phone Number (Francis Malczynski)
5. 04:23 AM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Jerry Springer)
6. 04:29 AM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Danny Lawhon)
7. 05:23 AM - Re: Ameri-King Phone Number (Roger Pierce)
8. 06:02 AM - Re: Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. (Bob 1)
9. 06:02 AM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Denis Walsh)
10. 06:21 AM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Bob 1)
11. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (linn walters)
12. 06:45 AM - Re: facet electric fuel (boost) pump ? malfunction (Bob 1)
13. 06:58 AM - Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. critical fastners (RV_8 Pilot)
14. 06:58 AM - Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. critical fastners (RV_8 Pilot)
15. 07:06 AM - Re: facet electric fuel (boost) pump ? malfunction (Sam Buchanan)
16. 07:13 AM - Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Chris W)
17. 07:33 AM - Fortune Magazine - Nice article on Vans! (Bruce Swayze)
18. 07:33 AM - Re: facet electric fuel (boost) pump ? malfunction (Larry Pardue)
19. 08:18 AM - Re: RV traveling to PNW (Dave Smith)
20. 08:37 AM - Re: Cherry Max rivet question (Peter Laurence)
21. 08:54 AM - Re: RV traveling to PNW (BBreckenridge@att.net)
22. 09:15 AM - Baffle caulking tip (dmedema@att.net)
23. 09:26 AM - Re: RV traveling to PNW (Randy Lervold)
24. 10:06 AM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Jaye and Scott Jackson)
25. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Charlie Kuss)
26. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Scott Vanartsdalen)
27. 11:12 AM - Re: Fortune Magazine - Nice article on Vans! (Todd Bartrim)
28. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Paul Besing)
29. 11:30 AM - Re: Fortune Magazine - Nice article on Vans! (John Helms)
30. 12:00 PM - Fw: Re: E-MAG (RV8ter@aol.com)
31. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! (Scott Vanartsdalen)
32. 01:34 PM - Auto Pilots and servos (Tim Bryan)
33. 01:52 PM - Re: RV traveling to PNW (GMC)
34. 01:54 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Todd Bartrim)
35. 02:23 PM - Re: Auto Pilots and servos (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
36. 02:24 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Scott Bilinski)
37. 02:37 PM - Re: Auto Pilots and servos (Sam Buchanan)
38. 02:57 PM - Border Crossing (was RV traveling to PNW) (Tedd McHenry)
39. 03:47 PM - Re: Auto Pilots and servos (Tim Bryan)
40. 03:57 PM - Looking for Boyd Braem (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
41. 04:23 PM - Re: CS vs FP props (RGray67968@aol.com)
42. 04:42 PM - Superior XP 360 - Roller Cam/Rocker Technology ??? (Bill Schlatterer)
43. 04:42 PM - Re: Auto Pilots and servos (Sam Buchanan)
44. 06:28 PM - RV-8 for sale (William Davis)
45. 07:10 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Charlie England)
46. 07:32 PM - Re: CS vs FP props (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
47. 08:44 PM - Re: RV traveling to PNW (Jaye and Scott Jackson)
48. 09:11 PM - Re: CS vs FP props (Dan Checkoway)
49. 09:19 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Todd Bartrim)
50. 09:26 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Vanremog@aol.com)
51. 09:34 PM - Re: CS vs FP props (Jerry Springer)
52. 09:38 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (HCRV6@aol.com)
53. 10:06 PM - Re: CS vs FP props (Jerry Springer)
54. 10:23 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Tom Gummo)
55. 11:24 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Todd Bartrim)
56. 11:30 PM - Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? (Todd Bartrim)
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| Subject: | RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Christopher,
I will make every effort, not respond to your accomplishments, if and when
they occur.
Chuck
>From: Christopher J Fortin <cjfortin@juno.com>
>To: crowbotham@hotmail.com
>Subject: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:31:17 -0400
>
>Hi Chuck,
>
>CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>
>You win the award for failing to follow 2 simple rules on the list. Since
>Nov. '98 you have posted 133 messages of "CONGRATULATIONS and WELL
>DONE !!!!" 131 for first flights, and 2 for first engine starts. In that
>time Matt has posted the rules for the list 69 times (see excerpts
>below). But I guess they are falling on blind eyes. If you can't send
>these messages to the people off list, at least have the courtesy to save
>some of Matts server space by not archiving this dribble.
>
>
>Chris Fortin
>N813CJ reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Reassembly at the airport |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Thanks for all the feedback on reassembling the aircraft
at the airport. I pretty clearly underestimated the time
that it will probably take. I was expecting a number in
the hours or days, not weeks and months! I'll need to
rent space in a shop, probably at several hundred dollars
a day, since T hangars are not available here. Sounds like
I need to get a bit more creative - perhaps a barn within
taxi range of an airfield, or a portable tent. Now I know
why so many people in Switzerland build airplanes with
wings that fold!
Thanks again,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Boost Pump Location RV-6 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Sears <sears@searnet.com>
> ...Isolated from the rest of the engine compartment in a box with the
> gascolator, and with a blast tube from the back of the baffling.
>
> Scott
>
>> There's also a bazillion Piper Cherokee-series (Warriors and Archers and
>> etc) out there with the round "beer can" Facet pump happily thumping away
>> on the engine side of the firewall...
The one on the Grumman-American series is not protected in any way. It does
just fine. It also has no gascolator to fool with. When I built my -6A, I
ran with their ideas and have the round Facet pump and no gascolator. I
have no complaints with either decision. I will change Facet pumps for
my -7A, though. One of our contributors told us about another version that
has pipe fittings that are more in line with what we use. I'll use that
one, instead. It will reduce the number of fittings.
Jim Sears in KY
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| Subject: | Ameri-King Phone Number |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Francis Malczynski" <ebbfmm@yahoo.com>
Does anyone have the number for Ameri-King. Tried calling yesterday and got
some private residence in CA. I used the number off one of their brochures
which is several years old..Thanks
Fran Malczynski
RV-6 N594EF
Olcott, NY
ebbfmm@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Well said Chuck ;-) I for one do not think that should be in the
official guidelines. A congratulations takes up
very little space and it IS a big deal to finish and fly one of our
favorites airplanes. Sure a private well done is nice but
I think that a public congratulations for a job well done means a lot to
the person that has spent years and years building
and then flying their own aircraft. While there are a lot of homebuilt
aircraft flying we are still a very very small group
of people and it is an acomplishment that very few people in the world
experience in their lifetime.
Jerry
Charles Rowbotham wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>
>Christopher,
>
>I will make every effort, not respond to your accomplishments, if and when
>they occur.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>
>>From: Christopher J Fortin <cjfortin@juno.com>
>>To: crowbotham@hotmail.com
>>Subject: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:31:17 -0400
>>
>>Hi Chuck,
>>
>>CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>>
>>You win the award for failing to follow 2 simple rules on the list. Since
>>Nov. '98 you have posted 133 messages of "CONGRATULATIONS and WELL
>>DONE !!!!" 131 for first flights, and 2 for first engine starts. In that
>>time Matt has posted the rules for the list 69 times (see excerpts
>>below). But I guess they are falling on blind eyes. If you can't send
>>these messages to the people off list, at least have the courtesy to save
>>some of Matts server space by not archiving this dribble.
>>
>>
>>Chris Fortin
>>N813CJ reserved
>>
>>Do not archive
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>> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules
>>therein.
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>>sent
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>>large.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Danny Lawhon <dlawhon@yahoo.com>
Bless you Christopher, some people just have to
act like that.. Congrads
--- Charles Rowbotham <crowbotham@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
> <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>
> Christopher,
>
> I will make every effort, not respond to your
> accomplishments, if and when
> they occur.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> >From: Christopher J Fortin <cjfortin@juno.com>
> >To: crowbotham@hotmail.com
> >Subject: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
> >Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:31:17 -0400
> >
> >Hi Chuck,
> >
> >CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
> >
> >You win the award for failing to follow 2 simple
> rules on the list. Since
> >Nov. '98 you have posted 133 messages of
> "CONGRATULATIONS and WELL
> >DONE !!!!" 131 for first flights, and 2 for first
> engine starts. In that
> >time Matt has posted the rules for the list 69
> times (see excerpts
> >below). But I guess they are falling on blind eyes.
> If you can't send
> >these messages to the people off list, at least
> have the courtesy to save
> >some of Matts server space by not archiving this
> dribble.
> >
> >
> >Chris Fortin
> >N813CJ reserved
> >
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> >
> >
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> for the RV-List.
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| Subject: | Re: Ameri-King Phone Number |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Roger Pierce" <rpierce@bak.rr.com>
I've been talking to them for the last several days. The phone number I
have is (714) 842-8555. They aren't always in, especially in the AM, but
will call you back quickly.
Roger Pierce
Bakersfield, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Francis Malczynski" <ebbfmm@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Ameri-King Phone Number
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Francis Malczynski" <ebbfmm@yahoo.com>
>
> Does anyone have the number for Ameri-King. Tried calling yesterday and
got
> some private residence in CA. I used the number off one of their brochures
> which is several years old..Thanks
>
> Fran Malczynski
> RV-6 N594EF
> Olcott, NY
> ebbfmm@yahoo.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
> I must admit that I really do like that feature. However, there seems to
be
> that added security I have in the fact that my -6A has 80 bolts holding on
> the wings. I'll have to do some adjusting to get comfortable with the 20
> bolts, or so, on the -7A I'm building. :-)
>
> Jim in KY
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If it's any comfort, Jim.....
I've flown certified aircraft utilizing FOUR bolts
to hold the wings on and I ain't dead yet.. <g>
Bob - over 50 years of flight
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net>
Congratulations to all who try to uncongratulate, and to all who fight
excess postings with excess postings!!!!
I'm getting dizzy. Think I'll go fly a while.
Denis
On Aug 12, 2004, at 5:26 AM, Danny Lawhon wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Danny Lawhon <dlawhon@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Bless you Christopher, some people just have to
> act like that.. Congrads
>
>
> --- Charles Rowbotham <crowbotham@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
>> <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>>
>> Christopher,
>>
>> I will make every effort, not respond to your
>> accomplishments, if and when
>> they occur.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>> From: Christopher J Fortin <cjfortin@juno.com>
>>> To: crowbotham@hotmail.com
>>> Subject: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:31:17 -0400
>>>
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>
>>> CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>>>
>>> You win the award for failing to follow 2 simple
>> rules on the list. Since
>>> Nov. '98 you have posted 133 messages of
>> "CONGRATULATIONS and WELL
>>> DONE !!!!" 131 for first flights, and 2 for first
>> engine starts. In that
>>> time Matt has posted the rules for the list 69
>> times (see excerpts
>>> below). But I guess they are falling on blind eyes.
>> If you can't send
>>> these messages to the people off list, at least
>> have the courtesy to save
>>> some of Matts server space by not archiving this
>> dribble.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Fortin
>>> N813CJ reserved
>>>
>>> Do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> The following details the official Usage Guidelines
>> for the RV-List.
>>> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and
>> to abide by the rules
>>> therein.
>>> Failure to use the RV-List in the manner
>> described below may result
>>>
>>> in the removal of the subscribers from the
>> List.
>>>
>>> - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless
>> you have something
>>> to add that is relevant and has a broad
>> appeal. "Way to go!",
>>> "I
>>> agree", and "Congratulations" are all
>> responses that are better
>>> sent
>>> to the original poster directly, rather
>> than to the List at
>>> large.
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Matco Parking brake Lock-up?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> Have a couple of friends that were flying to Alaska in a 125 hour old
Maule
> this summer. Used the parking brake. Took off OK but one brake was still
> locked on landing. Wiped out the gear, one wing, 3 bladed prop.
Fortunately
> the $45,000 repair is covered by insurance as they are now looking at more
> things.
>
> Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
======================================
In 1954, I rented a a Cessna 140 and was told NOT
to use the parking brake because it_MIGHT_stick.
I used it out of teenage curiosity and sure 'nuff....
upon landing one wheel was locked. No damage, but
the aircraft groundlooped so violently that my door
opened and the centrifical force had my upper body
hangin' out the door.
Moral of the story..... wear your seatbelt???? <g>
P.S.
I've never taken 'advantage' or trusted that kind of
parking brake setup since. Gimmee wheel chocks.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Well, I disagree. There is no greater feeling of accomplishment when
you (as a builder) stand back and look at your creation after it's first
flight. Kudos from family and friends pale in comparison. I've been
there. Sure it's great to get some emails with 'congrats', but one guy
does a 'congrats' and 40 follow with 'me too'. I have no idea how many
people are on the 4 RV-related lists I'm signed up for (there probably
is only 1/4 of the totals) and I'd hate to see one 'congrats' from each
person (X 4) flood into my mailbox. Send them direct if you want, but
not through my mailbox please. The RV Air Force is growing by leaps and
bounds and we are going to be (going to be? We're there!!!) a very
large group in the future. The problem (well, it is in my mind) will
quickly escalate and get out of control. But this is only my opinion
and YMMV ..... and I respect your right to send as many emails as you
darned well please ..... and I hope we don't add 'email wars' to 'primer
wars' and other conflicts.
Linn ..... and please, do not archive this stuff!
Jerry Springer wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>Well said Chuck ;-) I for one do not think that should be in the
>official guidelines. A congratulations takes up
>very little space and it IS a big deal to finish and fly one of our
>favorites airplanes. Sure a private well done is nice but
>I think that a public congratulations for a job well done means a lot to
>the person that has spent years and years building
>and then flying their own aircraft. While there are a lot of homebuilt
>aircraft flying we are still a very very small group
>of people and it is an acomplishment that very few people in the world
>experience in their lifetime.
>
>Jerry
>
>
>Charles Rowbotham wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>>
>>Christopher,
>>
>>I will make every effort, not respond to your accomplishments, if and when
>>they occur.
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Christopher J Fortin <cjfortin@juno.com>
>>>To: crowbotham@hotmail.com
>>>Subject: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>>>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:31:17 -0400
>>>
>>>Hi Chuck,
>>>
>>>CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
>>>
>>>You win the award for failing to follow 2 simple rules on the list. Since
>>>Nov. '98 you have posted 133 messages of "CONGRATULATIONS and WELL
>>>DONE !!!!" 131 for first flights, and 2 for first engine starts. In that
>>>time Matt has posted the rules for the list 69 times (see excerpts
>>>below). But I guess they are falling on blind eyes. If you can't send
>>>these messages to the people off list, at least have the courtesy to save
>>>some of Matts server space by not archiving this dribble.
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Fortin
>>>N813CJ reserved
>>>
>>>Do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV-List.
>>> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules
>>>therein.
>>> Failure to use the RV-List in the manner described below may result
>>>
>>> in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
>>>
>>>- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
>>> to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!",
>>>"I
>>> agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better
>>>sent
>>> to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at
>>>large.
>>>
>>>
>>> *****************************************
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>>>
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>>>only to a very
>>> small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not
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>>>the
>>> message:
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>> Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be
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>>hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: facet electric fuel (boost) pump ? malfunction |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
> Less than $40.00 will put this question to bed:
> >>Sam Buchanan
> >
>
> Where's the fun in that? You guys don't live very close to the edge, do
you? ;-)
>
> Okay, okay, I'll pay Van $40 for the pump + 19.95 S&H + small-order fee
and we'll never know what the real story was. Are you happy now?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Check your local auto supply stores for a replacement.
Bob - sales tax should be cheaper than $19.95 S&H +
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| Subject: | Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. |
critical fastners
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Speaking of critical fastners, how about each single bolt in the elevator
control system? Loosing one could ruin your whole day!
...just rattling my keyboard. Please do not archive.
Bryan Jones -8
www.LoneStarSquadron.com
Houston, Texas
> > I must admit that I really do like that feature. However, there seems
>to
>be
> > that added security I have in the fact that my -6A has 80 bolts holding
>on
> > the wings. I'll have to do some adjusting to get comfortable with the
>20
> > bolts, or so, on the -7A I'm building. :-)
> >
> > Jim in KY
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>If it's any comfort, Jim.....
>I've flown certified aircraft utilizing FOUR bolts
>to hold the wings on and I ain't dead yet.. <g>
>
>Bob - over 50 years of flight
>
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| Subject: | Can someone bring me up to speed - RV-6A nose wheel problems. |
critical fastners
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Speaking of critical fastners, how about each single bolt in the elevator
control system? Loosing one could ruin your whole day!
...just rattling my keyboard. Please do not archive.
Bryan Jones -8
www.LoneStarSquadron.com
Houston, Texas
> > I must admit that I really do like that feature. However, there seems
>to
>be
> > that added security I have in the fact that my -6A has 80 bolts holding
>on
> > the wings. I'll have to do some adjusting to get comfortable with the
>20
> > bolts, or so, on the -7A I'm building. :-)
> >
> > Jim in KY
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>If it's any comfort, Jim.....
>I've flown certified aircraft utilizing FOUR bolts
>to hold the wings on and I ain't dead yet.. <g>
>
>Bob - over 50 years of flight
>
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| Subject: | Re: facet electric fuel (boost) pump ? malfunction |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Bob 1 wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
>
>>Less than $40.00 will put this question to bed:
>>
>>>>Sam Buchanan
>>>
>>Where's the fun in that? You guys don't live very close to the edge, do
>
> you? ;-)
>
>>Okay, okay, I'll pay Van $40 for the pump + 19.95 S&H + small-order fee
>
> and we'll never know what the real story was. Are you happy now?
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Check your local auto supply stores for a replacement.
>
>
> Bob - sales tax should be cheaper than $19.95 S&H +
True. NAPA carries the Facet pump under the Balkamp brand; I bought one
for my Stalker kit car. I browsed the NAPA site in an attempt to locate
a link for the pumps but was unable to do so because of the need to
specify a vehicle. But if you go to a NAPA store, you can probably get a
pump with 3/8" NPT that will accept the AN fittings on the old RV pump.
The price will be very close to Vans but without the handling and
shipping fees.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Christopher J Fortin wrote:
>. . . at least have the courtesy to save some of Matts server space by
not archiving this dribble.
If you want to save server space, teach everyone to trim the irrelevant
crap from their replies.
--
Chris W
Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
http://thewishzone.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Fortune Magazine - Nice article on Vans! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bruce Swayze <swayze@europa.com>
Fellow Listers,
fortune.com's web site has a really nice article on Van's aircraft: "How
digital manufacturing helped an aviator take off". I thought I might
bring it to everyone's attention, if you haven't seen it already:
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654762,00.html
AOL users, try this link:
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/onlyonaol/bigstory
---
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| Subject: | Re: facet electric fuel (boost) pump ? malfunction |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
Just be sure you are getting the pump with aviation fittings.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
>
snip
-)
> >
> > Okay, okay, I'll pay Van $40 for the pump + 19.95 S&H + small-order fee
> and we'll never know what the real story was. Are you happy now?
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Check your local auto supply stores for a replacement.
>
>
> Bob - sales tax should be cheaper than $19.95 S&H +
>
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| Subject: | RV traveling to PNW |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Smith" <dave@rv10project.net>
Ken,
DEFINITELY stop by Roche Harbour in the San Juan's! Friday Harbour isn't
bad, but Roche is a whole heck of a lot prettier. Nice paved strip, and the
restaurant serves good food. Very nice area. Call ahead for hotel
reservations if you are going before Labor Day. Only thing to watch on
landing is that there are two windsocks, one at each end (or at least there
was when I was there) and they sometimes point in opposite directions.
------------------------------------------
Dave Smith
http://www.rv10project.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Cantrell
Subject: RV-List: RV traveling to PNW
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kenneth Cantrell" <kcflyrv@comcast.net>
Hello listers,
My wife and I are planning to fly our RV-6 from home in central Ca to the
greater Seattle area including possibly Friday Harbor and Victoria BC in a
couple weeks. I'd like some advice on where to stay and sights to see.
Advice on customs procedures for travel into Canada appreciated as well.
We'll likely be staying 3 or 4 days.
Thanks in advance for any & all suggestions.
Ken Cantrell
RV-6, 299 hours
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Cherry Max rivet question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Peter Laurence <dr.laurence@mbdi.org>
Kari,
A Cheery self-plugging flush rivet that I have used is a CR2662.
The grip length are as follows:
-1 .02-.062
-2 .0623-.125
-3 .126-.187
-4 .188-.250
-5 .251-.312
Hope this helps.
Peter Laurence
RV9A
waiting for wings
>>
> I would like to install some Cherry Max rivets in place of MSP-42 rivets.
It's for the Flap Brace on my 7-A. On the quick build wings you have to use
the MSP-42 rivets since there isn't any access to place the AN rivets. I
think it's supposed to be a CR3213-4-6 but that's just a guess?
>
> And yes I know....the MSP-42's will work just fine. I'll just sleep better
using the Max rivets for the flap brace since that's about all that's
holding it on.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Karie Daniel
> Sammamish
> RV-7A QB (feels like a Slow Build)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV traveling to PNW |
0.7 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name
0.0 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE Received: by and from look like IP addresses
--> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net
Don't forget Mt. St. Helens if you haven't seen it up close and personal. You
got your dome forming in the center of the crater and a dozen or so plumes of
steam rising. Quite a sight/site to see. No TFR's (as of last monday when we
went up). Just drift a little to the right when you go by Portland - can't miss
it!
Bruce Breckenridge
40018
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| Subject: | Baffle caulking tip |
0.7 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name
0.5 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary
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--> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
I finally got around to caulking between my engine and baffling last night.
After making a mess of the hard-to-get spots on the left side using my
fingers and a screwdriver, I decided there had to be a better way. On
a short walk, I decided I needed a tube with a plunger that I could push
into the hard-to-get areas and then squeeze out the caulking. Being in
the usual position of having stuff at home, but not at the hangar, I hit on
the idea of using a straw. Sure enough, there was a left over McDonalds
straw in my garbage can. Now I needed a plunger. Tried several different
wires and finally found that nyloflow tubing was the closest fit into my
straw. I plugged the end of the nyloflow tubing by heating it (with a match)
and then pushing it into a hard surface. I trimmed the excess melted
material off the end and filed it smooth and now I had a tube and plunger.
It worked pretty well. Push the Permatex tube into the straw and
load several inches of caulking into the straw. Then insert the plunger
and guide the straw to where you want the caulking. Push the plunger
in and you get caulking right where you want it but can't reach! Keeps
the fingers a lot cleaner as well!
Doug Medema
RV-6A N276DM
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I finally got around to caulking between my engine and baffling last night.
After making a mess of the hard-to-get spots on the left side using my
fingers and a screwdriver, I decided there had to be a better way. On
a short walk, I decided I needed a tube with a plunger that I could push
into the hard-to-get areas and then squeeze out the caulking. Being in
the usual position of having stuff at home, but not at the hangar, I hit on
the idea of using a straw. Sure enough, there was a left over McDonalds
straw in my garbage can. Now I needed a plunger. Tried several different
wires and finally found that nyloflow tubing was the closest fit into my
straw. I plugged the end of the nyloflow tubing by heating it(with a match)
and then pushing it into a hard surface. I trimmed the excess melted
material off the end and filed it smooth and now I had a tube and plunger.
It worked pretty well. Push the Permatex tube into the straw and
load several inches of caulking into the straw.Then insert the plunger
and guide the straw to where you want the caulking. Push the plunger
in and you get caulking right where you want it but can't reach! Keeps
the fingers a lot cleaner as well!
Doug Medema
RV-6A N276DM
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| Subject: | Re: RV traveling to PNW |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
If landing to the west get ready for multiple touchdowns and the runway
steps down and away from you, it's really fun. Technically it is a private
strip and you should call in advance for "permission" and give them your
tail number. The oysters at the restaurant are fabulous. Eat downstairs in
the causual place... cheaper with better atmostphere than the white
tablecloth room upstairs.
Randy Lervold
Vancouver, WA
>
> DEFINITELY stop by Roche Harbour in the San Juan's! Friday Harbour isn't
> bad, but Roche is a whole heck of a lot prettier. Nice paved strip, and
the
> restaurant serves good food. Very nice area. Call ahead for hotel
> reservations if you are going before Labor Day. Only thing to watch on
> landing is that there are two windsocks, one at each end (or at least
there
> was when I was there) and they sometimes point in opposite directions.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Dave Smith
> http://www.rv10project.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Cantrell
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: RV traveling to PNW
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kenneth Cantrell" <kcflyrv@comcast.net>
>
> Hello listers,
> My wife and I are planning to fly our RV-6 from home in central Ca to the
> greater Seattle area including possibly Friday Harbor and Victoria BC in a
> couple weeks. I'd like some advice on where to stay and sights to see.
> Advice on customs procedures for travel into Canada appreciated as well.
> We'll likely be staying 3 or 4 days.
> Thanks in advance for any & all suggestions.
>
> Ken Cantrell
> RV-6, 299 hours
>
>
> advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jaye and Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
those are an entirely different style of parking brake: it's not a separate
valve at all, just a bent piece of steel over the pedal cylinder pushrod
that jams against the rod when the parking brake knob is pulled.
It also won't release unless a greater pressure is applied to the toe brakes
beforehand.
jScott in Vancouver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Matco Parking brake Lock-up?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Matco Parking brake Lock-up?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> >
> > Have a couple of friends that were flying to Alaska in a 125 hour old
> Maule
> > this summer. Used the parking brake. Took off OK but one brake was
still
> > locked on landing. Wiped out the gear, one wing, 3 bladed prop.
> Fortunately
> > the $45,000 repair is covered by insurance as they are now looking at
more
> > things.
> >
> > Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
> ======================================
>
> In 1954, I rented a a Cessna 140 and was told NOT
> to use the parking brake because it_MIGHT_stick.
>
> I used it out of teenage curiosity and sure 'nuff....
> upon landing one wheel was locked. No damage, but
> the aircraft groundlooped so violently that my door
> opened and the centrifical force had my upper body
> hangin' out the door.
>
> Moral of the story..... wear your seatbelt???? <g>
>
> P.S.
> I've never taken 'advantage' or trusted that kind of
> parking brake setup since. Gimmee wheel chocks.
>
> Bob
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Jerry
I see nothing wrong with sending congratulations messages....... so long as
they are "off list". It's a simple matter to copy and paste the email of
the person celebrating from the original post, into your reply. That way,
the proud new pilot gets your well wishes, without sending it to thousands
of others. It's a simple matter of list etiquette.
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>Well said Chuck ;-) I for one do not think that should be in the
>official guidelines. A congratulations takes up
>very little space and it IS a big deal to finish and fly one of our
>favorites airplanes. Sure a private well done is nice but
>I think that a public congratulations for a job well done means a lot to
>the person that has spent years and years building
>and then flying their own aircraft. While there are a lot of homebuilt
>aircraft flying we are still a very very small group
>of people and it is an acomplishment that very few people in the world
>experience in their lifetime.
>
>Jerry
>
>
>Charles Rowbotham wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
> >
> >Christopher,
> >
> >I will make every effort, not respond to your accomplishments, if and when
> >they occur.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: Christopher J Fortin <cjfortin@juno.com>
> >>To: crowbotham@hotmail.com
> >>Subject: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
> >>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:31:17 -0400
> >>
> >>Hi Chuck,
> >>
> >>CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
> >>
> >>You win the award for failing to follow 2 simple rules on the list. Since
> >>Nov. '98 you have posted 133 messages of "CONGRATULATIONS and WELL
> >>DONE !!!!" 131 for first flights, and 2 for first engine starts. In that
> >>time Matt has posted the rules for the list 69 times (see excerpts
> >>below). But I guess they are falling on blind eyes. If you can't send
> >>these messages to the people off list, at least have the courtesy to save
> >>some of Matts server space by not archiving this dribble.
> >>
> >>
> >>Chris Fortin
> >>N813CJ reserved
> >>
> >>Do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >>The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV-List.
> >> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules
> >>therein.
> >> Failure to use the RV-List in the manner described below may result
> >>
> >> in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
> >>
> >>- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
> >> to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!",
> >>"I
> >> agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better
> >>sent
> >> to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at
> >>large.
> >>
> >>
> >> *****************************************
> >> *** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
> >> *****************************************
> >>
> >> At times, your message may concern something that is relevant
> >>only to a very
> >> small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not
> >>wish to archive
> >> it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in
> >>the
> >> message:
> >>
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >> Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be
> >>sent to List
> >> email distribution as normal.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
This is so pathetic. I am so tired of List cops. I'm putting the religeous content
back in my signature AND I'm going to congratulate someone. Go ahead take
up bandwith complaining about it. You don't like it find another list. Just
deal with it!!
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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| Subject: | Fortune Magazine - Nice article on Vans! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
Fellow Listers,
fortune.com's web site has a really nice article on Van's aircraft: "How
digital manufacturing helped an aviator take off". I thought I might
bring it to everyone's attention, if you haven't seen it already:
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654762,00.
html
$30 MILLION in sales! Holy $#@!%?? I knew Van was doing well, but
this
good? If this is true I'd be interested in how that compares to Cessna?
Do Not Archive this mindless drivel.
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
Some people have nothing better to do with their time than be list police.
Chucks comments have become kind of a list tradition, as you can always
expect his trademark response (I got one too!). He goes out of his way to
respond to people's accomplishments (most he probably does not know except
for an email address).
Right now, I have nothing better to do with my time, so I'll elaborate.
Ok, so there are storage space issues, but the 133 messages (over a 6 year
time frame!) doubtfully will bust a hard drive. 4k for a typical message.
Let's see, that would be 532K worth of messages in 6 years. At that rate,
Chuck would have used up a 3.5" floppy in approximately 16 years.
Chuck, I'll be happy to donate a 5 pack of 1.44 MB 3.5" floppys for Matt to
store your CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE!!! postings. That will get us
through the year 2084. Or, we could all pitch in and buy an 80GB hard
drive, which should last about 910,000 years (rounded from 909090.90
repeating).
The annual list fund raising drive is coming up here in November. (The 6
year anniversery for Chuck's postings). What everyone say we get this man
some storage space? I don't want to tap into Matt's reserves on account of
133 feel good postings from a list veteran.
Paul Besing
and for storage space, DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
<crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>
> Christopher,
>
> I will make every effort, not respond to your accomplishments, if and
when
> they occur.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> >From: Christopher J Fortin <cjfortin@juno.com>
> >To: crowbotham@hotmail.com
> >Subject: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
> >Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:31:17 -0400
> >
> >Hi Chuck,
> >
> >CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
> >
> >You win the award for failing to follow 2 simple rules on the list. Since
> >Nov. '98 you have posted 133 messages of "CONGRATULATIONS and WELL
> >DONE !!!!" 131 for first flights, and 2 for first engine starts. In that
> >time Matt has posted the rules for the list 69 times (see excerpts
> >below). But I guess they are falling on blind eyes. If you can't send
> >these messages to the people off list, at least have the courtesy to save
> >some of Matts server space by not archiving this dribble.
> >
> >
> >Chris Fortin
> >N813CJ reserved
> >
> >Do not archive
> >
> >
> >The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV-List.
> > You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules
> >therein.
> > Failure to use the RV-List in the manner described below may
result
> >
> > in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
> >
> >- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
> > to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!",
> >"I
> > agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better
> >sent
> > to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at
> >large.
> >
> >
> > *****************************************
> > *** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
> > *****************************************
> >
> > At times, your message may concern something that is relevant
> >only to a very
> > small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not
> >wish to archive
> > it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere
in
> >the
> > message:
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be
> >sent to List
> > email distribution as normal.
>
> hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fortune Magazine - Nice article on Vans! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
According to the numbers put out by GAMA (General Aviation Manufacturers Association)
if you just count their piston aircraft (and using an estimate of the values
of those) it looks like Cessna did about $18 Million in the 2nd Quarter
of this year.
With their turboprops and jets included, they did 353 Million in that quarter.
JT
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Bartrim
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Fortune Magazine - Nice article on Vans!
--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
Fellow Listers,
fortune.com's web site has a really nice article on Van's aircraft: "How
digital manufacturing helped an aviator take off". I thought I might
bring it to everyone's attention, if you haven't seen it already:
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/roi/articles/0,15114,654762,00.
html
$30 MILLION in sales! Holy $#@!%?? I knew Van was doing well,
but this
good? If this is true I'd be interested in how that compares to Cessna?
Do Not Archive this mindless drivel.
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
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--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
FYI
http://emagair.com/Intro.htm
Let Brad know if you own a A1B6D or A3B6D and want the dual mag pack electronic
ignition replacement developed anytime soon.
Subj: RE: E-MAG
Date: 8/12/2004 2:13:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: "Brad Dement" <brad@proplink.org>
To: <RV8ter@aol.com>
Sent from the Internet (Details)
That's fine, I'll add you to the list. But if you are looking at next
summer, don't give up on us at all. I suspect we will be able to help.
Happy Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: RV8ter@aol.com [mailto:RV8ter@aol.com]
Subject: Re: E-MAG
yes, I would like to know more as you develop your system however I don't
feel confident the timing is going to work out.
My one time Mooney A1B6D engine is in an experimental (Van's RV8) I am
finishing up and hope to have flying next summer.
There's a lot of them in the exp market place where a 200 hp angle valve
engine was desired.
Good luck and hurry up!
lucky
In a message dated 8/12/2004 11:39:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Brad
Dement" <brad@proplink.org> writes:
>Thanks for the inquiry. "At the moment" you are correct. We don't offer a
>solution for dual magneto engines. However, getting a dual setup is high
on
>our "to do" list. In large measure, the timing depends on how many of
these
>engines are out there and how many might be interested in an upgrade.
>Obviously, the availability for certified units (Mooneys/Cardinals) would
>lag far behind Experimentals (RVs).
>
>Let me know if you want to be included on our notification list for updates
>up on this feature.
>
>Thanks again for you're interest.
>
>Brad Dement
>E-MAG Ignitions
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RV8ter@aol.com [mailto:RV8ter@aol.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:05 AM
>To: lycoming@yahoogroups.com
>Cc: info@emagair.com
>Subject: [SPAM] Re: [lycoming] New Electronic Ignition System and
>Supplier
>
>
>Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be a great solution for the Dual Mag
pack
>lycomings found on Mooneys/Cardinals.
>
>ie, my A1B6D ;-)
>
>I'd have to get a different electronic ignition system alltogether for the
>other set up plugs.
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
I've got a 16MB USB key I can donate...
do not archive
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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| Subject: | Auto Pilots and servos |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
Hello Listers,
I have deliberately decided to wait on posting this message until I felt I
could start to actually think about it more. I intend to have an auto pilot
in my RV-6 including altitude hold but wanted to wait until I flew the
airplane and was ready to have the benefit of the extra money. I did put
quite a bit in my panel now and it is *supposed* to be wired for an S-tec 30
However, I don't really know what that means or if it truely is. I had
installed a DG with a heading bug for this purpose as well. Not usefull
without the auto pilot.
My panel includes the full Appollo Slimline stack (Yes I know sadley is now
Garmin and somewhat obsolete). You can see it at http://www
bryantechnology.com/family/rv6/rv6.htm or in the top left corner and just
inside of your chief aircraft catalog.
Now the questions: There has been lots of talk regarding all the options of
autopilots and very little regarding the S-tec. I can presume probably due
to the cost. I have not installed any servos or anything and probably won't
until after I fly (This Year!) Is there some concensus on using any
specific auto pilot rather than s-tec? Is this strictly a cost issue or are
there other reasons? I definately want Alt. Hold. I don't have room in my
panel to add other than to hopefully just replace the TC. (as planned)
Also, I have heard about the servos being somewhat interchangeable as well
between Navaid, etc. What are the limitations here? Should I absolutely
add some wire or changes to what I have done to accomodate adding an
autopilot later?
Don't mean to blast questions, but had postponed to prevent the feature
creep but now I am getting close to moving to the airport and don't want to
overlook any thing I absolutely should do now.
Thanks for any help
Tim Bryan
RV-6 N616TB
In the making since February of 1990
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| Subject: | RV traveling to PNW |
--> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@uniserve.com>
Hi Ken
I was going to reply off list but thought others might appreciate some of
this info:
Canada Customs procedures require you to telephone 1-888-226-7277 at least
two hours in advance to give arrival notice and then you must arrive at a
designated port of entry. During your flight Customs will check you out and
decide if they will meet you or simply clear you via telephone. On arrival
you may be met by a customs agent, if not, you must telephone the same
number and confirm that your declaration has not changed and they give you a
clearance number to put in your journey log.
I suspect that they meet most if not all foreign aircraft and since 9/11
they want to see your pilots license, medical validation and certificate of
registration. You can call this number (1-888-226-7277) from home and ask
what I.D you require.
The following are Ports of Entry in our area; Victoria BC and several others
on Vancouver Island, in the Vancouver BC area use Boundary Bay or
Abbottsford. There is no charge for Canadian Customs however Nav Canada
(privatized ATC) will ding you about $15-$20 Canadian (1/4 of annual fee)
and on your return US Customs have a $25 annual fee (you may already have a
sticker).
Suggestion; if you only want to go to Victoria and not fly to other
locations in Canada you can avoid the above fees by taking a pleasant ferry
ride from Port Angeles to Victoria's inner harbor, $9 per person. See
www.northolympic.com/coho
Port Angeles is one of my favorite airports because with a tourist
orientated town and a fabulous county transit system. If you telephone the
transit system from the airport they will radio the next bus that normally
passes the airport to stop and pick you up at the FBO (Write Bros) office.
At the downtown bus loop it is a two block walk to ferry terminal. You can
also get a day pass on the bus for a few dollars and tour the Olympic
Peninsula, go to Forks for lunch on a greyhound type bus etc and then get
dropped off a few yards from your aircraft, nice!
The previously mentioned airports at Roch Harbor and Friday Harbor are nice
plus Orcas Island has Rosario Resort and Lopez (3S1) has a golf course
adjacent, forget the 3 or 4 days you could spend weeks!
And should you decide to come to the BC mainland here is a commercial plug
for my local airport, Langley B.C. (CYNJ).
Located 20 miles East of Vancouver. We have fuel, tie-downs, 2 restaurants
on field, maintenance and engine shop, hotel and yes, a Chocolate factory
within walking distance, all this packaged in a quaint airport with tower
and 1900 foot paved runway!
George in Langley
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kenneth Cantrell" <kcflyrv@comcast.net>
Hello listers,
My wife and I are planning to fly our RV-6 from home in central Ca to
the greater Seattle area including possibly Friday Harbor and Victoria
BC in a couple weeks. I'd like some advice on where to stay and sights
to see. Advice on customs procedures for travel into Canada appreciated
as well. We'll likely be staying 3 or 4 days.
Thanks in advance for any & all suggestions.
Ken Cantrell
RV-6, 299 hours
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| Subject: | Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
I'm curious as to how these brakes lock-up while in the air. When mine
lock-up, it's only when they've been fully applied for parking, then they
just don't want to release, which will prevent me from getting airborne at
all (even with full boost:-). These incidents of landing with a locked brake
puzzle me. Did the pilot apply brakes while in flight? Not likely, but
possible. If the brake was free enough to do a take-off roll, then why
wouldn't it remain free enough for a landing roll. Is it due to just enough
drag that was able to be overcome during take-off by enough rudder, but upon
touchdown the pilot was unable to compensate quickly enough to prevent a
ground loop? (yes, nosewheels can groundloop too). Or is there some
mysterious gremlin that locks the brake(s) solid?
Todd Bartrim (removed the DNA, as these questions, while unanswered yet,
should be in the archives)
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
>
> Have a couple of friends that were flying to Alaska in a 125 hour old
Maule
> this summer. Used the parking brake. Took off OK but one brake was still
> locked on landing. Wiped out the gear, one wing, 3 bladed prop.
Fortunately
> the $45,000 repair is covered by insurance as they are now looking at more
> things.
>
> Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
======================================
In 1954, I rented a a Cessna 140 and was told NOT
to use the parking brake because it_MIGHT_stick.
I used it out of teenage curiosity and sure 'nuff....
upon landing one wheel was locked. No damage, but
the aircraft groundlooped so violently that my door
opened and the centrifical force had my upper body
hangin' out the door.
Moral of the story..... wear your seatbelt???? <g>
P.S.
I've never taken 'advantage' or trusted that kind of
parking brake setup since. Gimmee wheel chocks.
Bob
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| Subject: | Auto Pilots and servos |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
TruTrak http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsproducts.html
Better performance, less money.
Bob
RV-10 #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Subject: RV-List: Auto Pilots and servos
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan"
--> <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
Hello Listers,
I have deliberately decided to wait on posting this message until I felt
I could start to actually think about it more. I intend to have an auto
pilot in my RV-6 including altitude hold but wanted to wait until I flew
the airplane and was ready to have the benefit of the extra money. I
did put quite a bit in my panel now and it is *supposed* to be wired for
an S-tec 30
However, I don't really know what that means or if it truely is. I
had installed a DG with a heading bug for this purpose as well. Not
usefull without the auto pilot.
My panel includes the full Appollo Slimline stack (Yes I know sadley is
now Garmin and somewhat obsolete). You can see it at http://www
bryantechnology.com/family/rv6/rv6.htm or in the top left corner and
just inside of your chief aircraft catalog.
Now the questions: There has been lots of talk regarding all the
options of autopilots and very little regarding the S-tec. I can
presume probably due to the cost. I have not installed any servos or
anything and probably won't until after I fly (This Year!) Is there
some concensus on using any specific auto pilot rather than s-tec? Is
this strictly a cost issue or are there other reasons? I definately
want Alt. Hold. I don't have room in my panel to add other than to
hopefully just replace the TC. (as planned)
Also, I have heard about the servos being somewhat interchangeable as
well between Navaid, etc. What are the limitations here? Should I
absolutely add some wire or changes to what I have done to accomodate
adding an autopilot later?
Don't mean to blast questions, but had postponed to prevent the feature
creep but now I am getting close to moving to the airport and don't want
to overlook any thing I absolutely should do now.
Thanks for any help
Tim Bryan
RV-6 N616TB
In the making since February of 1990
==
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| Subject: | Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
This is down right scary. Its also the exact reason I did not put in a
parking brake.
At 01:54 PM 8/12/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
>
> I'm curious as to how these brakes lock-up while in the air. When
> mine
>lock-up, it's only when they've been fully applied for parking, then they
>just don't want to release, which will prevent me from getting airborne at
>all (even with full boost:-). These incidents of landing with a locked brake
>puzzle me. Did the pilot apply brakes while in flight? Not likely, but
>possible. If the brake was free enough to do a take-off roll, then why
>wouldn't it remain free enough for a landing roll. Is it due to
>just enough
>drag that was able to be overcome during take-off by enough rudder, but upon
>touchdown the pilot was unable to compensate quickly enough to prevent a
>ground loop? (yes, nosewheels can groundloop too). Or is there some
>mysterious gremlin that locks the brake(s) solid?
>
>Todd Bartrim (removed the DNA, as these questions, while unanswered
>yet,
>should be in the archives)
>
>RV9Endurance
>13B Turbo Rotary
>C-FSTB
>http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
>work and determination to the things they do."
>
> >
> > Have a couple of friends that were flying to Alaska in a 125 hour old
>Maule
> > this summer. Used the parking brake. Took off OK but one brake was still
> > locked on landing. Wiped out the gear, one wing, 3 bladed prop.
>Fortunately
> > the $45,000 repair is covered by insurance as they are now looking at more
> > things.
> >
> > Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
>======================================
>
>In 1954, I rented a a Cessna 140 and was told NOT
>to use the parking brake because it_MIGHT_stick.
>
>I used it out of teenage curiosity and sure 'nuff....
>upon landing one wheel was locked. No damage, but
>the aircraft groundlooped so violently that my door
>opened and the centrifical force had my upper body
>hangin' out the door.
>
>Moral of the story..... wear your seatbelt???? <g>
>
>P.S.
>I've never taken 'advantage' or trusted that kind of
>parking brake setup since. Gimmee wheel chocks.
>
>Bob
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Pilots and servos |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Tim Bryan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
<snip>
> Now the questions: There has been lots of talk regarding all the options of
> autopilots and very little regarding the S-tec. I can presume probably due
> to the cost. I have not installed any servos or anything and probably won't
> until after I fly (This Year!) Is there some concensus on using any
> specific auto pilot rather than s-tec? Is this strictly a cost issue or are
> there other reasons? I definately want Alt. Hold. I don't have room in my
> panel to add other than to hopefully just replace the TC. (as planned)
Tim,
The Navaid, EZ-Pilot, and TruTrak autopilots each can be installed in
lieu of a turn coordinator. TruTrak offers autopilots with altitude hold
or you can go with the feature-packed EZ-Pilot and add the AlTrak from
TruTrak. The AlTrak only requires one hole in the panel for the switch.
Scroll down this page to see the EZ-Pilot and AlTrak in the panel of my
RV-6:
http://thervjournal.com
>
> Also, I have heard about the servos being somewhat interchangeable as well
> between Navaid, etc. What are the limitations here? Should I absolutely
> add some wire or changes to what I have done to accomodate adding an
> autopilot later?
You can add the autopilot later without much additional work. The servos
are often added to flying aircraft and the wiring requirements are
minimal. All you will need from your avionics is a NMEA data feed which
is one wire unless you also slave the autopilot to a VOR/ILS receiver.
You will find an autopilot will quickly become one of your favorite
devices in the panel of your RV. There is a ton of info in the list
archives on the various autopilot systems, and most manufacturer's
websites have installation/user manuals you can download.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Border Crossing (was RV traveling to PNW) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
In addition to George's helpful information, the Home Wing/EAA 105 maintains a
page on their web site with all the information you need to know to fly from
the U.S. into Canada and back.
http://www.edt.com/homewing/international/
I'm assured by those who come to our fly-in at Langley, BC, that's it's really
not a big deal. (Though there are some fees, unfortunately.)
Also, a tip for anyone travelling in a group: cross the border in formation.
Nav Canada bills only the formation lead. (But U.S. Customs bills each
airplane when you return the U.S.)
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Pilots and servos |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
Thanks Sam and others. I have a couple of questions.
The EZPilot (II) has a built in course for setting a track. Does this mean
the heading bug would not be a factor?
Do I recall others to say they prefer the LCD display with out canopies?
With the Altrak is the Trim Sensing (TS) a worthwhile add on?
Where can I confirm the data stream from my GPS (GX60) is compatible?
Seems I heard about some kits for specific install in RV's. Is this so with
either of these?
Thanks
Tim
-------Original Message-------
From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto Pilots and servos
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Tim Bryan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
<snip>
> Now the questions: There has been lots of talk regarding all the options
of
> autopilots and very little regarding the S-tec. I can presume probably
due
> to the cost. I have not installed any servos or anything and probably won
t
> until after I fly (This Year!) Is there some concensus on using any
> specific auto pilot rather than s-tec? Is this strictly a cost issue or
are
> there other reasons? I definately want Alt. Hold. I don't have room in
my
> panel to add other than to hopefully just replace the TC. (as planned)
Tim,
The Navaid, EZ-Pilot, and TruTrak autopilots each can be installed in
lieu of a turn coordinator. TruTrak offers autopilots with altitude hold
or you can go with the feature-packed EZ-Pilot and add the AlTrak from
TruTrak. The AlTrak only requires one hole in the panel for the switch.
Scroll down this page to see the EZ-Pilot and AlTrak in the panel of my
RV-6:
http://thervjournal.com
>
> Also, I have heard about the servos being somewhat interchangeable as well
> between Navaid, etc. What are the limitations here? Should I absolutely
> add some wire or changes to what I have done to accomodate adding an
> autopilot later?
You can add the autopilot later without much additional work. The servos
are often added to flying aircraft and the wiring requirements are
minimal. All you will need from your avionics is a NMEA data feed which
is one wire unless you also slave the autopilot to a VOR/ILS receiver.
You will find an autopilot will quickly become one of your favorite
devices in the panel of your RV. There is a ton of info in the list
archives on the various autopilot systems, and most manufacturer's
websites have installation/user manuals you can download.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Looking for Boyd Braem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Boyd, are you out there? If so please write back privately or call.
Thanks,
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
800 780-4115
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| Subject: | Re: CS vs FP props |
--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Yup....like Mr. Stewart says....I just changed out my fixed pitch Warnke wood
prop for a Hartzell on my RV6 w/O-360 Lyco.
I 'thought' I had plenty of 'wow' (as you call it) before the change. Now I
realize that I had no 'wow' at all....and now I have LOTS of 'wow'.
-No problem installing the governor/adapter/gear drive.
-No problem running the oil line.
-No problem removing the front crank plug.
-No problem installing the rear plug (watch the cross over tube).
-Pain in the neck running the new vernier cable through the firewall on a
finished airplane. Fortunately I had a spot in the panel for it so that end was
no problem.
-I used an old Hartzell hub for fitting the spinner so I didn't have to lift
my prop up and bolt it on 2 or 3 times.
-No problem bolting on the prop but a real pain safety wiring the bolts.
-I made my new spinner with NO visible screws cause Mike Stewart told me "I
had to" (thanks Mike....buddy). This took me 6 days but now that it's done I'm
real happy with it.
-No problem for the FAA paperwork for the 'Major Change'
-Total time to make the change was 7 days from shut down to first flight. And
that includes painting the new spinner. It was a LOT of work......but I did
my annual at the same time.
This new Hartzell C/S prop is a HUGE change for my RV. It basically does
EVERYTHING a LOT better than it did before. I feel like a I have a NEW airplane!
Stop reading this and go get yourself a Constant Speed Prop!!
Rick Gray in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm - RV6 O-360 Hartzell....yup!!
Home of the Ohio Valley RVators
http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/index.html
for the archives
His comments to me were.
Awesome, 6+kts, climb rocks, it was more work than he thought.
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
CBRxxDRV@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: CS vs FP props
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
Has anyone made an upgrade?
Built the plane then made the switch from Fixed pitch to constant speed?
That would be a great way to compare.
I have a RV-4 with a Hartsell. It has plenty of wow on takeoff. I find
that
at 500 feet agl I pull the power back and set the prop to the rpm I
want.
Set it and forget it. The -6 I trained in had a fixed pitch and it had
enough wow at take off. Am I missing something here? With 190 hp
0-360 I figure I should have all the wow that is needed and cruise
should
not be an issue on a -8. Anyone have any views or thoughts??
I am trying to decide if I want to spend the extra $$ for a new hartsell
for my -8. I promissed myself I would not cut corners but an Extra
$4500 for the first 500 feet AGL seems a bit much.
TIA
RV-4
RV-8 tail
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
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| Subject: | Superior XP 360 - Roller Cam/Rocker Technology ??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
Need a little engine expertise if anyone has any to spare. Just placing an
order for my engine and am completely confused about the Roller Cam option
from Superior on the XP360. Finally settled on an XP-360 (O-360CS)from Bart
but just saw the ad in the last issue of Sport Aviation on the latest thing
from Superior. Looks like it's an extra $2,500 and supposed to make it run
faster and jump higher. Less wear on engines that don't get run a lot,
smoother, etc. Worth it, not ???? Any experience ?
Thanks
Bill Schlatterer
Maumelle, Arkansas
7a QB fuse
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Pilots and servos |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Tim Bryan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
>
> Thanks Sam and others. I have a couple of questions.
>
> The EZPilot (II) has a built in course for setting a track. Does this mean
> the heading bug would not be a factor?
The EZ-Pilot (and DigiTrak) receives tracking and heading info from a
NMEA data feed from a GPS, either panel or handheld. I am not familiar
enough with heading bugs on DGs to know how they might interface with a
panel-mount GPS unit.
I just punch in the waypoint I want on my little 'ol Airmap 100 and the
EZ-Pilot takes me there..... :-)
>
> Do I recall others to say they prefer the LCD display with out canopies?
You most definitely want the LCD display on an EZ-Pilot in an RV.
>
> With the Altrak is the Trim Sensing (TS) a worthwhile add on?
I don't see any need for it.
>
> Where can I confirm the data stream from my GPS (GX60) is compatible?
Check with Jerry or Chuck at Trio Avionics.
>
> Seems I heard about some kits for specific install in RV's. Is this so with
> either of these?
TruTrak has RV specific brackets, not sure about Trio. Custom bracket or
no, the servo installation shouldn't be much of a challenge for somebody
who has built their own plane. :-)
Sam Buchanan
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--> RV-List message posted by: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
Listers
Am putting my RV-8, N48WD, "Tiger-Kat" up for sale. Others have said that it's
one of the best. Won "Best Metal Homrbuilt" at Sun-N-Fun in2001. For a picture,
see Van's calendar Nov, 2002
A few quick facts:
my 4th RV
IO-360 A1B6 200HP by Bart (complete oil analysis)
Aero Composites Prop
Oxygen
430 Hrs. (30 on prop)
Light (1099 lb)
autopilot
Lightspeed ignition
many other features
Price-120K
For more info, please reply off line to rvpilot@access4less.net
or phone 352-408-7227 days or 352-483-7693 nights
do not archive
Bill Davis
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Happened to a guy down here in Mississippi a few years ago (sorta).
Bought a Maul, flew it to deer camp, set the brake & went hunting.
Killed a deer, loaded it in the back & departed the grass field in the
early morning dew.
Flew back to Jackson, touched down on a paved runway & promptly flipped
on his back.
Unhurt, but the deer blood everywhere gave the emergency response teams
a thrill.
Charlie
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Todd Bartrim wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
>
> I'm curious as to how these brakes lock-up while in the air. When mine
>lock-up, it's only when they've been fully applied for parking, then they
>just don't want to release, which will prevent me from getting airborne at
>all (even with full boost:-). These incidents of landing with a locked brake
>puzzle me. Did the pilot apply brakes while in flight? Not likely, but
>possible. If the brake was free enough to do a take-off roll, then why
>wouldn't it remain free enough for a landing roll. Is it due to just enough
>drag that was able to be overcome during take-off by enough rudder, but upon
>touchdown the pilot was unable to compensate quickly enough to prevent a
>ground loop? (yes, nosewheels can groundloop too). Or is there some
>mysterious gremlin that locks the brake(s) solid?
>
>Todd Bartrim (removed the DNA, as these questions, while unanswered yet,
>should be in the archives)
>
>RV9Endurance
>13B Turbo Rotary
>C-FSTB
>http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
>work and determination to the things they do."
>
>
>
>>Have a couple of friends that were flying to Alaska in a 125 hour old
>>
>>
>Maule
>
>
>>this summer. Used the parking brake. Took off OK but one brake was still
>>locked on landing. Wiped out the gear, one wing, 3 bladed prop.
>>
>>
>Fortunately
>
>
>>the $45,000 repair is covered by insurance as they are now looking at more
>>things.
>>
>>Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
>>
>>
>======================================
>
>In 1954, I rented a a Cessna 140 and was told NOT
>to use the parking brake because it_MIGHT_stick.
>
>I used it out of teenage curiosity and sure 'nuff....
>upon landing one wheel was locked. No damage, but
>the aircraft groundlooped so violently that my door
>opened and the centrifical force had my upper body
>hangin' out the door.
>
>Moral of the story..... wear your seatbelt???? <g>
>
>P.S.
>I've never taken 'advantage' or trusted that kind of
>parking brake setup since. Gimmee wheel chocks.
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CS vs FP props |
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
Thankyou to all that have repleyed.
I hate to say it but I still have no direction.
After the storm passes I'll go play around with the -4 and decide.
I guess I could set the prop at 2400rpm and 24inches on take off :)
I think that would get my attention...... that is what a fixed pitch would
do ??
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7AC
RV-4
RV-8 tail
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
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| Subject: | Re: RV traveling to PNW |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jaye and Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
I'd put in a suggestion to fly into Courtenay Airpark, half-way up Vancouver
Island on the East side.
The reason my wife and I like going there frequently is The Old House
restaurant located about one block north of the airstrip.
The food is excellent, the prices really reasonable, and don't be surprized
when, a few minutes after you order something that's described as having
fresh herbs, you notice the chef come out of the kitchen and walk into the
garden to pull out a handful of herbs.
Now that's fresh.
The current menu-it changes year round depending on what's in season, is
available on line, just do a google search for The Old House.
My wife views our RV-6 as her personal lunch buggy.
HEy, who am I to argue, at least I get ot go flying!
Scott In Vancouver
PS: I'll leave it to someone else to suggest you stop into Chilliwack's
Airport Coffee Shop for Barb MacDonald's homemade pies. Glass plate-no
aluminum- and every filling picked locally by hand, nothing out of a
five-gallon pail. Like the airport registry said," Fly for pie to die for"!
----- Original Message -----
From: "GMC" <gmcnutt@uniserve.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV traveling to PNW
> --> RV-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@uniserve.com>
>
> Hi Ken
>
> I was going to reply off list but thought others might appreciate some of
> this info:
>
> Canada Customs procedures require you to telephone 1-888-226-7277 at least
> two hours in advance to give arrival notice and then you must arrive at a
> designated port of entry. During your flight Customs will check you out
and
> decide if they will meet you or simply clear you via telephone. On arrival
> you may be met by a customs agent, if not, you must telephone the same
> number and confirm that your declaration has not changed and they give you
a
> clearance number to put in your journey log.
> I suspect that they meet most if not all foreign aircraft and since 9/11
> they want to see your pilots license, medical validation and certificate
of
> registration. You can call this number (1-888-226-7277) from home and ask
> what I.D you require.
>
> The following are Ports of Entry in our area; Victoria BC and several
others
> on Vancouver Island, in the Vancouver BC area use Boundary Bay or
> Abbottsford. There is no charge for Canadian Customs however Nav Canada
> (privatized ATC) will ding you about $15-$20 Canadian (1/4 of annual fee)
> and on your return US Customs have a $25 annual fee (you may already have
a
> sticker).
>
> Suggestion; if you only want to go to Victoria and not fly to other
> locations in Canada you can avoid the above fees by taking a pleasant
ferry
> ride from Port Angeles to Victoria's inner harbor, $9 per person. See
> www.northolympic.com/coho
>
> Port Angeles is one of my favorite airports because with a tourist
> orientated town and a fabulous county transit system. If you telephone the
> transit system from the airport they will radio the next bus that normally
> passes the airport to stop and pick you up at the FBO (Write Bros) office.
> At the downtown bus loop it is a two block walk to ferry terminal. You can
> also get a day pass on the bus for a few dollars and tour the Olympic
> Peninsula, go to Forks for lunch on a greyhound type bus etc and then get
> dropped off a few yards from your aircraft, nice!
>
> The previously mentioned airports at Roch Harbor and Friday Harbor are
nice
> plus Orcas Island has Rosario Resort and Lopez (3S1) has a golf course
> adjacent, forget the 3 or 4 days you could spend weeks!
>
> And should you decide to come to the BC mainland here is a commercial plug
> for my local airport, Langley B.C. (CYNJ).
> Located 20 miles East of Vancouver. We have fuel, tie-downs, 2 restaurants
> on field, maintenance and engine shop, hotel and yes, a Chocolate factory
> within walking distance, all this packaged in a quaint airport with tower
> and 1900 foot paved runway!
>
> George in Langley
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kenneth Cantrell" <kcflyrv@comcast.net>
>
> Hello listers,
> My wife and I are planning to fly our RV-6 from home in central Ca to
> the greater Seattle area including possibly Friday Harbor and Victoria
> BC in a couple weeks. I'd like some advice on where to stay and sights
> to see. Advice on customs procedures for travel into Canada appreciated
> as well. We'll likely be staying 3 or 4 days.
> Thanks in advance for any & all suggestions.
>
> Ken Cantrell
> RV-6, 299 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CS vs FP props |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> -I made my new spinner with NO visible screws cause Mike Stewart told me
"I
> had to" (thanks Mike....buddy). This took me 6 days but now that it's done
I'm
> real happy with it.
Duuuuuude...please enlighten us as to how to keep the fasteners out of
sight! Did you use piano hinges? Just kidding...but what's your method?
I assume screws through the back of the spinner bulkhead or something?
Would love to see pics.
Glad you're enjoying your new prop. I wouldn't even *think* about using a
fixed pitch prop on a high performance aircraft! (flame on)
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
OK, so we have no answer as to why, but a few horror stories about real bad
landings caused by stuck brakes. I'm guessing that many of these have been
sold and found their way into RV's. How about a few comment's from those
that have 'em & no problems?
\
Happened to a guy down here in Mississippi a few years ago (sorta).
Bought a Maul, flew it to deer camp, set the brake & went hunting.
Killed a deer, loaded it in the back & departed the grass field in the
early morning dew.
Flew back to Jackson, touched down on a paved runway & promptly flipped
on his back.
Unhurt, but the deer blood everywhere gave the emergency response teams
a thrill.
Charlie
Ps. Reminds me of the time when our volunteer fire dept. was called to the
scene of a car/moose/car/car accident. First car hits moose, kills it,
destroys car, miraculously both occupants fine. Second car hits first car,
everybody fine. Third car approaches, slows down, then deliberately
accelerates into the pile up, then driver gets out and dramatically falls
down in front of others, crying about his back. We arrive (fire dept),
quickly assess the situation, put traffic cones on either side of the "fake"
causality and immediately went to work gutting the moose to salvage the meat
for charity. Ambulance arrives and expects big trouble by the amount of
blood on us. They were still laughing as they roughly packed away the
"causality". I heard the guy never got a dime.
do not archive
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 8/12/2004 2:24:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com writes:
This is down right scary. Its also the exact reason I did not put in a
parking brake.
=====================================
I don't understand this whole thread. I have the Parker Cleveland Parking
Brake valve and it continues to work perfectly after almost 6.5 yrs and
hundreds of applications. Not once has it failed to do exactly what it was
designed to do (close off the fluid return to the master when actuated on the
ground
following brake application, and allow brake fluid flow to the master when
released on the ground). I have an ACS ratcheting cable actuator operating
the arm.
Are you folks sure that your valve is acting up and that you don't instead
have the infamous master return springs with the lost mojo?
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 708 hrs)
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| Subject: | Re: CS vs FP props |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Dan Checkoway wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
>
>
>>-I made my new spinner with NO visible screws cause Mike Stewart told me
>>
>>
>"I
>
>
>>had to" (thanks Mike....buddy). This took me 6 days but now that it's done
>>
>>
>I'm
>
>
>>real happy with it.
>>
>>
>
>Duuuuuude...please enlighten us as to how to keep the fasteners out of
>sight! Did you use piano hinges? Just kidding...but what's your method?
>
>I assume screws through the back of the spinner bulkhead or something?
>Would love to see pics.
>
>Glad you're enjoying your new prop. I wouldn't even *think* about using a
>fixed pitch prop on a high performance aircraft! (flame on)
>
>)_( Dan
>RV-7 N714D
>http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
>
Dan CS is nice but I find that when I fly my old 180hp FP RV-6 along
with guys with CS I get there the same time they do.:-)
BTW it is a secret how Rick and I have no show spinner fastners. :-)
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Todd: I don't know if this will help but I was told by a Matco rep that to
release the brakes you have to first apply the brakes and then release the
valve. I have the same valve but have not tried them yet.
Do not archive (unless it works :-)
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, final assembly
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| Subject: | Re: CS vs FP props |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Dan Checkoway wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
>
>
>>-I made my new spinner with NO visible screws cause Mike Stewart told me
>>
>>
>"I
>
>
>>had to" (thanks Mike....buddy). This took me 6 days but now that it's done
>>
>>
>I'm
>
>
>>real happy with it.
>>
>>
>
>Duuuuuude...please enlighten us as to how to keep the fasteners out of
>sight! Did you use piano hinges? Just kidding...but what's your method?
>
>I assume screws through the back of the spinner bulkhead or something?
>Would love to see pics.
>
>Glad you're enjoying your new prop. I wouldn't even *think* about using a
>fixed pitch prop on a high performance aircraft! (flame on)
>
>)_( Dan
>RV-7 N714D
>http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
>
>
Actually Dan, here is a photo of how my spinner looks on the inside, as
you can see the screws do go through the
backing plate from the rear into the nut plates that are attached to the
inside ring on the spinner. As I have a FP I have a
plate on the front of the prop that has a alum pipe the fits very tight
into the hole you see in the front bulkhead of the spinner.
I am not sure if Rick did his this same way or not but I did send him
this picture when he was asking for tips on how to do it.
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~jsflyrv/spinner.jpg
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Parking brake Lock-up? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Avaition Story - Some Humor - Long - Delete Now - if not interested
DO NOT ARCHIVE
While I was flying the OV-10, we had a sister squadron that flew HH-53
helicopters. One of the HH-53s had been deployed to Canada for an exercise.
On the way home, it blew several tires. I was asked to fly to Luke AFB and
take several of them for the crewchief to replace. The OV-10 had tons of
cargo space behind the rear seat.
While standing at the bar in the Luke AFB Officer's club, the pilot told me
how it all happened. As they flew over the Grand Canyon (Yes, there was a
day when you could do it without getting into trouble), they heard an SOS on
121.5. One of the rafting tours had a lady, who broke one of her legs
during a rough ride shooting one of the bigger rapids. They decided that
they could go down to the bottom and pick her up.
The HH-53 is big, really big. There was no place level or big enough to
land. So the pilot put just one wheel down on the un-even ground and to
keep from rolling around, set the parking park. While the HH-53 hovered,
the lady was loaded and flown to Grand Canyon Airport. The pilot was going
to land beside the terminal building when he saw a small plane parked there.
He could easily flip the plane with his rotor wash. So he decided to do a
ROLLING LANDING on the runway. You guessed it, the parking brake was still
on and several tires blew. After unloading the lady, he then flew to Luke
AFB and did a hovering landing with no more damage to the helicopter.
From HERO to GOAT, in just one second.
The best part of this story is that the pilot knew the squadron commander
was going to have his ass when he got home. Of course, he just happened to
be the squadron commander. :-) The other pilots never let him forget it.
Moral - Let no good deed go unpunished!
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
Hi Harry;
Yup, tried this as my normal procedure. no luck.
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
Todd: I don't know if this will help but I was told by a Matco rep that
to
release the brakes you have to first apply the brakes and then release the
valve. I have the same valve but have not tried them yet.
Do not archive (unless it works :-)
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, final assembly
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
This is what I was asking. I'm certain you're not the only one who doesn't
have any problem, but there is at least 2 of us that do.
What is the infamous master return springs with the lost mojo? I'm open
to
all ideas.
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
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I don't understand this whole thread. I have the Parker Cleveland Parking
Brake valve and it continues to work perfectly after almost 6.5 yrs and
hundreds of applications. Not once has it failed to do exactly what it was
designed to do (close off the fluid return to the master when actuated on
the ground
following brake application, and allow brake fluid flow to the master when
released on the ground). I have an ACS ratcheting cable actuator operating
the arm.
Are you folks sure that your valve is acting up and that you don't instead
have the infamous master return springs with the lost mojo?
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 708 hrs)
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