Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:34 AM - RV-6A for sale (Jim & Bev Cone)
2. 03:44 AM - Re: H2AD series engines (Jim Sears)
3. 04:52 AM - "Super RV-8" web sites or drawings? (alan@reichertech.com)
4. 05:11 AM - Re: Question for the aerodynamycists (Gordon and Marge)
5. 06:02 AM - Re: H2AD series engines (Bill VonDane)
6. 07:06 AM - Re: Your Big Mistake - Your Big Chance (Finn Lassen)
7. 08:25 AM - RVs at KTOA (Eric Parlow)
8. 08:29 AM - Re: Your Big Mistake - Your Big Chance (Kevin Horton)
9. 08:37 AM - Re: "Super RV-8" web sites or drawings? (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
10. 08:41 AM - Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants (dmedema@att.net)
11. 08:46 AM - Aluminum matching paints (Jack Blomgren)
12. 09:09 AM - Garmin 296 (Ken Simmons)
13. 09:35 AM - Re: RVs at KTOA (Skylor Piper)
14. 09:42 AM - Re: Tie Down Strength (Chris W)
15. 10:32 AM - Re: H2AD series engines (Jim Sears)
16. 10:45 AM - Re: RVs at KTOA (Tim Bryan)
17. 10:49 AM - Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants (Doug Weiler)
18. 11:28 AM - Re: "Super RV-8" web sites or drawings? (Mickey Coggins)
19. 02:18 PM - EZ Pilot Display Choice (Grenwis@aol.com)
20. 02:59 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Display Choice (Ollie Washburn)
21. 03:41 PM - Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants (Louis Willig)
22. 03:48 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Display Choice (David Carter)
23. 04:08 PM - Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants (LarryRobertHelming)
24. 04:45 PM - Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants (linn walters)
25. 05:00 PM - Adv. - Aircaft Tools from Brown Tool - Adv. (BrownTool@aol.com)
26. 05:20 PM - prop balance (Tom Gummo)
27. 05:24 PM - Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants (linn walters)
28. 05:57 PM - Re: Attachment showing up in RV List (or do I have a virus)???????? (cgalley)
29. 05:57 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Display Choice (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
30. 05:59 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Display Choice (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
31. 07:15 PM - Minnesota Wing Campin/Flyin (Alex Peterson)
32. 07:29 PM - 153MC flies today (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
33. 08:42 PM - Re: RVs at KTOA (Dave Bristol)
34. 09:28 PM - Navaid VS EZ Pilot! (Dean Psiropoulos)
35. 09:35 PM - Re: H2AD series engines (Jeff Bertsch)
36. 09:35 PM - Re: Attachment showing up in RV List (or do I have a virus)???????? (James E. Clark)
37. 09:41 PM - Re: Navaid VS EZ Pilot! (Jerry Springer)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim & Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com>
It is with great joy and equally great sadness that my RV-6A is for sale. Joy
because my new RV-7A with a new XP-360, C/S prop and all Glass cockpit is complete
and ready to fly and sadness because I have to part with my award winning
RV-6A to pay for it.
N641JC has a Lycoming O-320 (300 hours since reman to factory new specs and all
AD's complied with) with an Ellison Throttle Body and one Lightspeed electronic
ignition. It has a Sensenich metal cruise prop. It is full IFR with a dual
axis autopilot. Radio is a Narco Mark 12D+ VOR/ILS/COMM. GPS is Apollo GS
50 IFR approach certified. Narco transponder. Rocky Mtn engine monitor. Angle
of Attack by Proprietary Systems. Heated pitot static probe. Lambs wool
interior by D.J. Laurentsen.
Interested persons can email me off list and I will send pictures and more info.
Do not Archive
Jim Cone
jimnbev@olypen.com
3-peat offender
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Subject: | Re: H2AD series engines |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Sears <sears@searnet.com>
> Man am I embarrased - I only paid $3000 for my engine!
>
> Instead of just winning 3rd in the Sun100 (2003, 160-hp RV, 176-kts) I
could
> have dropped another $20-30g's and won 2nd, or maybe 1st in my class!! ;)
> ;)
>
I love to read that kind of stuff. :-) Thankfully, the engine in question
is like the Grumman-American series aircraft. Those had a reputation for
being pilot unfriendly around airport bum club groups, based on stories
about the early American AA1 series aircraft. Because of that, purchasing
one was a terrific bang for the buck, until some of us finally found out the
bums didn't know what they were talking about. I had 9 good years with my
Cheetah. I thought it was easier to fly than the C172 I'd owned. Of
course, the bad reputation came from poor pilotage. Those same bums didn't
realize their Cessnas hid a lot of that from them, unless they were really
bad pilots. :-)
The H2AD engine's problems were quickly taken care of; so, they are now a
great bang for the buck because the older pilots remember when they first
came out, and nothing else. One can get a H2AD for a much lower price than
a regular O320. The only thing I don't like about them is the placement of
the fuel pump. Will Cretsinger got around that by using two electric fuel
pumps with a back up battery, in case of alternator failure.
Speaking of Will, he bought a used H2AD and put it right on his RV. He flew
it until it was getting close to TBO. At that point, he was also thinking
about selling it his RV. He couldn't make up his mind to overhaul the
engine, or not. I suggested that he just buy another good H2AD and save on
the overhaul. I'm not sure if he did, or not; but, it seemed like a
reasonable idea, at the time. I think a replacement with some hours was
going for about $2500. That was just a year, or so, ago. :-) Now, that's
a good one for the budget minded. It's almost as cheap as an auto
conversion. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter with over 300 tach hours on a rebuilt engine.)
RV-7A #70317 (Engine is still a pile of cleaned up parts.)
EAA Tech Counselor
EAA Flight Advisor
do not archive
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Subject: | "Super RV-8" web sites or drawings? |
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
A quick search through archives didn't yeild anything...
I've heard mention of the Super -8. Is there a web site/sites or drawings
on what this entails?
- Alan
do not archive
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Subject: | Question for the aerodynamycists |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon and Marge" <gcomfo@tc3net.com>
Subject: RV-List: Question for the aerodynamycists
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
I am going to install a NACA vent on the side of the forward fuselage on
the RV-4 I am rebuilding. I am thinking of installing it right below
the cowl cheek angled downward so that the longitudinal axis of the vent
is parallel to the logitudnal axis of the cowl cheek extension. My
thought is the pressure will be positive in this area and will result in
good positive airflow into the vent (this will be for fresh air
ventilation to the front cockpit).
Does it make an appreciable difference? As in most things the best
idea
would be to try it to find out but that is not practical given the hole
I need to cut in the fuselage skin.
I'm looking for opinions and/or experience with this location. Is my
thinking sound or am I missing something?
Net, net - I'd like to install on the right but the left seems like a
better location. Which is best and will either work?
Richard
RV-4 N144KT - rising from he ashes of a 1998 landing in the trees at
IGX.
Richard: I cannot say which side is best, but I can tell you that the
right side works very well. Mine is located on the right, vertical
placement is about midway between the cowl cheek extension and the wing,
inclined roughly paralleling the cheek extension and the incoming air
will blow a chart out of your hands at speeds above the stall. Not much
flow on the ground.
Gordon Comfort
N363GC
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Subject: | Re: H2AD series engines |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
WOW! I guess I paid way too much for my engine at $6000! ...and now after
my $4200 overhaul to new specs I should really hide my face in public... :)
-Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Sears" <sears@searnet.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: H2AD series engines
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Sears <sears@searnet.com>
> Man am I embarrased - I only paid $3000 for my engine!
>
> Instead of just winning 3rd in the Sun100 (2003, 160-hp RV, 176-kts) I
could
> have dropped another $20-30g's and won 2nd, or maybe 1st in my class!! ;)
> ;)
>
I love to read that kind of stuff. :-) Thankfully, the engine in question
is like the Grumman-American series aircraft. Those had a reputation for
being pilot unfriendly around airport bum club groups, based on stories
about the early American AA1 series aircraft. Because of that, purchasing
one was a terrific bang for the buck, until some of us finally found out the
bums didn't know what they were talking about. I had 9 good years with my
Cheetah. I thought it was easier to fly than the C172 I'd owned. Of
course, the bad reputation came from poor pilotage. Those same bums didn't
realize their Cessnas hid a lot of that from them, unless they were really
bad pilots. :-)
The H2AD engine's problems were quickly taken care of; so, they are now a
great bang for the buck because the older pilots remember when they first
came out, and nothing else. One can get a H2AD for a much lower price than
a regular O320. The only thing I don't like about them is the placement of
the fuel pump. Will Cretsinger got around that by using two electric fuel
pumps with a back up battery, in case of alternator failure.
Speaking of Will, he bought a used H2AD and put it right on his RV. He flew
it until it was getting close to TBO. At that point, he was also thinking
about selling it his RV. He couldn't make up his mind to overhaul the
engine, or not. I suggested that he just buy another good H2AD and save on
the overhaul. I'm not sure if he did, or not; but, it seemed like a
reasonable idea, at the time. I think a replacement with some hours was
going for about $2500. That was just a year, or so, ago. :-) Now, that's
a good one for the budget minded. It's almost as cheap as an auto
conversion. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter with over 300 tach hours on a rebuilt engine.)
RV-7A #70317 (Engine is still a pile of cleaned up parts.)
EAA Tech Counselor
EAA Flight Advisor
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Your Big Mistake - Your Big Chance |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
I started this thread and I'm actually still waiting for an answer to my
questions of "how strong are the tiedown hardpoints on an RV-3?", how
strong winds will they handle (assuming ropes and ground anchors stay put)?
Finn
Robert Hansen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Robert Hansen" <RV7@Gunsite.to>
>
>There is good information on this list much of the time, but it seems too
>often loaded down with the chit chat of folks who want to use it as a forum
>to offer opinions that have nothing to do with RVs. Like many others, I
>hate it that I have to wade through tons of, "Hurricane and tie-down"
>dribble to find RV stuff.
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
Looking for info on RVs, more specifically RV-8s, at KTOA.
Or surrounding airports: KSMO, KLGB, KHHR.
I'm considering moving there and RV's / Airports will weigh heavily into my
decision.
ERic--
RV-8 Wings
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Subject: | Re: Your Big Mistake - Your Big Chance |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
>
>I started this thread and I'm actually still waiting for an answer to my
>questions of "how strong are the tiedown hardpoints on an RV-3?", how
>strong winds will they handle (assuming ropes and ground anchors stay put)?
>
>Finn
>
Finn,
Your original post said "I think only two 3/16" bolts hold the
tie-down pipe to the spar web." Wicks catalog gives a rated strength
in shear of 2,125 lb for an AN3 bolt. It isn't clear at first glance
whether this is an allowable design strength (i.e. it is acceptable
to have normal design loads up to this value), or whether it is a
guaranteed ultimate strength. Some other references give lower
values, so I assume that 2,125 is an ultimate strength, and the other
references are providing allowable design loads.
Assuming 2,125 lb is an ultimate strength, two bolts would be 4,250
lb, but that assumes that the load is shared equally between the two
bolts. In practice I suspect the lower bolt would get more than 50%
of the load, as the tie-down pipe might stretch a bit. So you
probably shouldn't count on the bolts taking more than 3,000 lb load,
maybe even less. This assumes that the load is perfectly aligned
with the tie down pipe. A misaligned load would probably increase
the stress on the lower bolt even further.
The limiting factor might be somewhere else. Depending on the thread
size of the hole, and material of the tie down ring, you might find
that it breaks first. Or, depending on the material and cross
sectional area of the tie down pipe, perhaps it is the weak link.
Or, maybe the spar itself will be the first thing damaged (hopefully
not - a good design would have something else fail before the spar
incurred damaging loads).
What is the thread size and pitch of the tie down hole? What is the
material and cross sectional area of the tie down pipe? What is the
spar material and dimensions where the tie down pipe attaches to it?
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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Subject: | "Super RV-8" web sites or drawings? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
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Subject: | Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants |
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--> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
I finished installing my wheel pants last night and have one question:
The plans say to safety wire the bolt head that holds the outside
bracket to the large axle nut. However, the bolts supplied in my
wheel pants kit don't have drilled heads. Also, the bolts go into
a nutplate that has the usual anti-vibration crimp. Do I need to
buy new drilled head bolts or is the nutplate crimp sufficient?
Have others received drilled head bolts or are regular un-drilled
bolts now standard?
Thanks,
Doug Medema
RV-6A N276DM
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I finished installing my wheel pants last night and have one question:
The plans say to safety wire the bolt head that holds the outside
bracket to the large axle nut. However, the bolts supplied in my
wheel pants kit don't have drilled heads. Also, the bolts go into
a nutplate that has the usual anti-vibration crimp. Do I need to
buy new drilled head bolts or is the nutplate crimp sufficient?
Have others received drilled head bolts or are regular un-drilled
bolts now standard?
Thanks,
Doug Medema
RV-6A N276DM
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Subject: | Aluminum matching paints |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet@hotmail.com>
Painting Gurus,
Say you only wanted to paint your RV's fairings, tips, pants, skirt, you
know, the glass parts, to sort of fool the non-RV world that it's all
aluminum, what paint would you choose, and maybe why? I see PPG has all
those "Mist" names for what-- on the computer screen-- look to be
aluminum-like paints for Audi, Jaguar, Mercedes, etc.. But some of you must
already have worked out this not-as-easy-as-it-looks problem. [No pun
intended] Thanks,
Jack -8
http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
Anyone have an idea of when Garmin will end their no-discount threat on the Garmin
296? Is this a new tactic they're trying or is there some historical evidence
of how long they usually do this for a new product?
Thanks.
Ken
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
Eric,
The RV population at Torrance is growing rapidly.
I'm building an 8 QB with my father, and there is
another flying 8A based there. There are also several
6's and 4's on the field, and at least 1 F1 Rocket
under construction.
Skylor Piper
RV-8 QB Under Construction
N808SJ Reserved
--- Eric Parlow <ericparlow@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow"
> <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
>
> Looking for info on RVs, more specifically RV-8s,
> at KTOA.
>
> Or surrounding airports: KSMO, KLGB, KHHR.
>
> I'm considering moving there and RV's / Airports
> will weigh heavily into my
> decision.
>
> ERic--
> RV-8 Wings
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
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> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
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Subject: | Re: Tie Down Strength |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Finn Lassen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
>
>I started this thread and I'm actually still waiting for an answer to my
>questions of "how strong are the tiedown hardpoints on an RV-3?", how
>strong winds will they handle (assuming ropes and ground anchors stay put)?
>
>
I'm not sure there is an answer to you question, but I can make a
guess. According to the McMaster catalog a plain steel 3/8 inch eyebolt
has a load rating of 1,300 lbs. Since on the RV the eyebolt is screwed
into aluminum alloy threads, and a good aluminum alloy is close to the
strength of a plain unalloyed steel, I would tend the think the load
ratting would be at most that of the plain steel eyebolt, 1,300 lbs.
Now the question becomes how much wind do you need to produce 1300 lbs
of lift on each wing with the plane in tail wheel attitude. Just a wild
guess here but I am pretty sure that it would be less than 100 mph.
Of course if you attach some kind of stall strip to the top of the wing
it would help. That brings up an idea I had for people who commonly tie
down their RV in high winds. Why not modify the tie down hard point so
you can screw into it from the bottom and top of the wing, then add a
second one some distance away from the first. It would then be very
easy to bolt an aluminum angle or just a 2 x 4 to the top of the wing to
kill the lift from strong winds.
--
Chris W
Bring Back the HP 15C
http://hp15c.org
Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
http://thewishzone.com
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Subject: | Re: H2AD series engines |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Sears <sears@searnet.com>
> WOW! I guess I paid way too much for my engine at $6000! ...and now
after
> my $4200 overhaul to new specs I should really hide my face in public...
:)
>
That's how it works with inflation or having someone let the word get out.
:-)
Jim in KY
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
Hi Eric,
Check out this fantastic tool that Dan put together. It is at:
http://www.rvproject.com/registry/rvfinder.jsp
Tim Bryan
RV-6
N616TB
-------Original Message-------
From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: RVs at KTOA
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
Looking for info on RVs, more specifically RV-8s, at KTOA.
Or surrounding airports: KSMO, KLGB, KHHR.
I'm considering moving there and RV's / Airports will weigh heavily into my
decision.
ERic--
RV-8 Wings
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Subject: | Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@nomadwi.com>
I do not have these bolts safetied and have never had them come loose. You
are going into a locking nutplate anyway.
Doug Weiler
RV-4 120 hours.. still in the paint shop in Tuscaloosa.
> --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
>
> I finished installing my wheel pants last night and have one question:
> The plans say to safety wire the bolt head that holds the outside
> bracket to the large axle nut. However, the bolts supplied in my
> wheel pants kit don't have drilled heads. Also, the bolts go into
> a nutplate that has the usual anti-vibration crimp. Do I need to
> buy new drilled head bolts or is the nutplate crimp sufficient?
> Have others received drilled head bolts or are regular un-drilled
> bolts now standard?
>
> Thanks,
> Doug Medema
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Subject: | "Super RV-8" web sites or drawings? |
local>
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi Alan,
Michael Stewart has some good information on the web here:
http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/
Mickey
>A quick search through archives didn't yeild anything...
>
>I've heard mention of the Super -8. Is there a web site/sites or drawings
>on what this entails?
>
>- Alan
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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Subject: | EZ Pilot Display Choice |
--> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
For those that have used them, which display (LCD or VFD) is more readable
in an RV cockpit?
Rick Grenwis
RV6A QB - Panel - CoSpgs, CO
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Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Display Choice |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net>
Rick, I have RV6A with the sun shade and I first had the LCD as many RVers
said that was best with all the light in the RV.However with the sun shade
my poor old eyes couldn't see the display so I called them and they put the
vfd display in for me which while not perfect is much better than before.
Ollie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Grenwis@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: EZ Pilot Display Choice
> --> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
>
> For those that have used them, which display (LCD or VFD) is more readable
> in an RV cockpit?
>
> Rick Grenwis
> RV6A QB - Panel - CoSpgs, CO
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants |
--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
At 11:41 AM 8/24/2004, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
>
>I finished installing my wheel pants last night and have one question:
>The plans say to safety wire the bolt head that holds the outside
>bracket to the large axle nut. However, the bolts supplied in my
>wheel pants kit don't have drilled heads. Also, the bolts go into
>a nutplate that has the usual anti-vibration crimp. Do I need to
>buy new drilled head bolts or is the nutplate crimp sufficient?
>Have others received drilled head bolts or are regular un-drilled
>bolts now standard?
Doug,
The hex head bold that held the wheel pant onto the outside bracket on my
RV-4 used to come loose all the time. I disregarded it one time too many,
and upon landing one day, the bolt fell out completely, and the wheel pant
was twisted around by the tire and the backing plate was destroyed. I have
a new backing plate and repaired the cosmetic damage to the wheel pant, BUT
I now use a simple split lock washer. 350 additional hours and no problem.
I don't know where you would secure a safety wire to.
Louis
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Display Choice |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
What is a VFD display?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot Display Choice
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net>
>
> Rick, I have RV6A with the sun shade and I first had the LCD as many RVers
> said that was best with all the light in the RV.However with the sun shade
> my poor old eyes couldn't see the display so I called them and they put
the
> vfd display in for me which while not perfect is much better than before.
> Ollie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Grenwis@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: EZ Pilot Display Choice
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
> >
> > For those that have used them, which display (LCD or VFD) is more
readable
> > in an RV cockpit?
> >
> > Rick Grenwis
> > RV6A QB - Panel - CoSpgs, CO
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
My kit came with bolts to be safeywired.
Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"
The sincerest satisfactions in life come in doing and not dodging duty; in
meeting and solving problems, in facing facts, in being a dependable person.
- Richard L. Evans
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@nomadwi.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@nomadwi.com>
>
> I do not have these bolts safetied and have never had them come loose.
You
> are going into a locking nutplate anyway.
>
> Doug Weiler
> RV-4 120 hours.. still in the paint shop in Tuscaloosa.
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
> >
> > I finished installing my wheel pants last night and have one question:
> > The plans say to safety wire the bolt head that holds the outside
> > bracket to the large axle nut. However, the bolts supplied in my
> > wheel pants kit don't have drilled heads. Also, the bolts go into
> > a nutplate that has the usual anti-vibration crimp. Do I need to
> > buy new drilled head bolts or is the nutplate crimp sufficient?
> > Have others received drilled head bolts or are regular un-drilled
> > bolts now standard?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Doug Medema
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
To answer the question that Louis posed: Drill a hole in the wheel pant
near the bolt and put a cotter pin in there with the loop on the
inside. Safety the bolt to the cotter pin.
Linn
Louis Willig wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
>
>At 11:41 AM 8/24/2004, you wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
>>
>>I finished installing my wheel pants last night and have one question:
>>The plans say to safety wire the bolt head that holds the outside
>>bracket to the large axle nut. However, the bolts supplied in my
>>wheel pants kit don't have drilled heads. Also, the bolts go into
>>a nutplate that has the usual anti-vibration crimp. Do I need to
>>buy new drilled head bolts or is the nutplate crimp sufficient?
>>Have others received drilled head bolts or are regular un-drilled
>>bolts now standard?
>>
>>
>
>Doug,
>
>The hex head bold that held the wheel pant onto the outside bracket on my
>RV-4 used to come loose all the time. I disregarded it one time too many,
>and upon landing one day, the bolt fell out completely, and the wheel pant
>was twisted around by the tire and the backing plate was destroyed. I have
>a new backing plate and repaired the cosmetic damage to the wheel pant, BUT
>I now use a simple split lock washer. 350 additional hours and no problem.
>I don't know where you would secure a safety wire to.
>
>Louis
>
>
>-
>Louis I Willig
>1640 Oakwood Dr.
>Penn Valley, PA 19072
>610 668-4964
>RV-4, N180PF
>190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Adv. - Aircaft Tools from Brown Tool - Adv. |
--> RV-List message posted by: BrownTool@aol.com
This is an ADVERTISEMENT - DO NOT ARCHIVE
Just a quick message to let all of our RV customers know we have just
received a large shipment of surplus aircraft tools from a major airframe
manufacturer including: 90 Degree Threaded Drill Motors, Sealant Guns, and Drill
Attachments - complete descriptions, pictures, and pricing are available on our
website at: www.BROWNTOOL.com
This is a great opportunity to purchase high quality, industrial grade
aircraft tools at a fraction of their new cost.
We are also featuring our brand new Hi-Force Pneumatic "C" Rivet Squeezer
complete with 1-1/2" Jaw for only $479.95
Thanks !
Michael Brown
Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co.
3801 S. Meridian Ave.
Oklahoma City, OK 73119
1-800-587-3883
405-688-6888
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>,
"SoCal RV List" <socal-rvlist@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Someone one on one of these lists asked about a prop balance in Bakersfield.
I was at the Apple Valley Airport and a car when by with the words prop balance
on the door.
I asked if he when to B-field. He ask yes.
Don't know anything else about him.
Donald Allison
A&P IA ATP FE
1 - 760 - 242 -0121
Hope this helps.
DO NOT ARCHIVE ..
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
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Subject: | Re: Safety wiring bolts for wheel pants |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
I apologize for the multiple posts ...... but put the cotter pin loop on
the OUTSIDE.
'Course you probably already knew that! ;-)
Linn
linn walters wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>
>To answer the question that Louis posed: Drill a hole in the wheel pant
>near the bolt and put a cotter pin in there with the loop on the
>inside. Safety the bolt to the cotter pin.
>Linn
>Louis Willig wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
>>
>>At 11:41 AM 8/24/2004, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
>>>
>>>I finished installing my wheel pants last night and have one question:
>>>The plans say to safety wire the bolt head that holds the outside
>>>bracket to the large axle nut. However, the bolts supplied in my
>>>wheel pants kit don't have drilled heads. Also, the bolts go into
>>>a nutplate that has the usual anti-vibration crimp. Do I need to
>>>buy new drilled head bolts or is the nutplate crimp sufficient?
>>>Have others received drilled head bolts or are regular un-drilled
>>>bolts now standard?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Doug,
>>
>>The hex head bold that held the wheel pant onto the outside bracket on my
>>RV-4 used to come loose all the time. I disregarded it one time too many,
>>and upon landing one day, the bolt fell out completely, and the wheel pant
>>was twisted around by the tire and the backing plate was destroyed. I have
>>a new backing plate and repaired the cosmetic damage to the wheel pant, BUT
>>I now use a simple split lock washer. 350 additional hours and no problem.
>>I don't know where you would secure a safety wire to.
>>
>>Louis
>>
>>
>>-
>>Louis I Willig
>>1640 Oakwood Dr.
>>Penn Valley, PA 19072
>>610 668-4964
>>RV-4, N180PF
>>190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Attachment showing up in RV List (or do I have a virus)???????? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
If you have an attachment then the sending address is spoofed. All
attachments on the Matronics list are stripped.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Subject: RV-List: Attachment showing up in RV List (or do I have a
virus)????????
> --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
>
> Anyone else out there getting mail from the RV-List with an "attachment"?
>
> Hope I don't have a virus or something. (Should be protected by virus
> protection s/w)
>
> James
>
>
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Subject: | EZ Pilot Display Choice |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Directly from their website.
Bright VFD or Backlit LCD Display
Trying to read the LCD (liquid crystal display) screen on most handheld
and many panel mounted GPS receivers can be difficult in poor lighting
conditions. The EZ Pilot overcomes this difficulty by providing a
bright vacuum fluorescent display (VFD) to present information to the
pilot. While this is the optimum solution in a majority of
applications, it may tend to "wash out" in direct sunlight. In aircraft
that experience a lot of direct sunlight on their instrument panels, an
LCD option (backlit for night operation) is also available.
======
From here: http://www.trioavionics.com/Features.htm#Bright_VFD_Display
======
Get the LCD display and hang on to your seat when you fly with this
little gem. It will exceed your expectation for price and performance.
Nothing in my glass cockpit, dual EI plane performs as well at this
price point. Nothing even comes close actually.
Regards,
Mike Stewart
Got 2 of em now.
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Carter
Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot Display Choice
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
What is a VFD display?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot Display Choice
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net>
>
> Rick, I have RV6A with the sun shade and I first had the LCD as many
RVers
> said that was best with all the light in the RV.However with the sun
shade
> my poor old eyes couldn't see the display so I called them and they
put
the
> vfd display in for me which while not perfect is much better than
before.
> Ollie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Grenwis@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: EZ Pilot Display Choice
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
> >
> > For those that have used them, which display (LCD or VFD) is more
readable
> > in an RV cockpit?
> >
> > Rick Grenwis
> > RV6A QB - Panel - CoSpgs, CO
> >
> >
>
>
==
==
==
==
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Subject: | EZ Pilot Display Choice |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Hands down lcd.
Do not put the vfd in your rv. They changed to the lcd based on feedback
from the field.
Mike Stewart
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grenwis@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: EZ Pilot Display Choice
--> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
For those that have used them, which display (LCD or VFD) is more
readable
in an RV cockpit?
Rick Grenwis
RV6A QB - Panel - CoSpgs, CO
==
==
==
==
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Subject: | Minnesota Wing Campin/Flyin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
Just a reminder to all of you - our fall picnic/flyin/campin is only a
little more than two weeks away. The date of the picnic is Saturday,
September 11th. For those interested, there will be camping also Friday
and Saturday nights. We are holding it a beautiful 3800' grass strip
just into Wisconsin from Minneapolis. For details see:
http://www.pressenter.com/~dougweil/mnwing/id18.htm
This is a really fun group, and we hope to see you there!!!
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 516 hours
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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"rvyahoo" <RV10@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: | 153MC flies today |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Had a great day today, took RV-6A 153MC off the ground for the fist time
today. Subsequently put 7 hours on it with out a hitch, god I love VAN'S
stuff.
O-360-A1A
Holy Cowl with plenum
NACA scoop for oil cooler
Fixed pitch
basic panel
after 4 RV's I still get that RV grin
:>)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Sincerely,
Noel Simmons
Blue Sky Aviation, Inc.
Phone & Fax: 406-538-6574
noel@blueskyaviation.net
<http://www.blueskyaviation.net/> www.blueskyaviation.net
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on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Eric,
You left out CPM. We've got a 6, 6A, 3 - 4's and a just minted Rocket.
The 8's seem to be at TOA... maybe they need the longer runway? 8 > )
Dave RV6
Eric Parlow wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
>
>Looking for info on RVs, more specifically RV-8s, at KTOA.
>
>Or surrounding airports: KSMO, KLGB, KHHR.
>
>I'm considering moving there and RV's / Airports will weigh heavily into my
>decision.
>
>ERic--
>RV-8 Wings
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Navaid VS EZ Pilot! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Psiropoulos" <deanpsir@easystreet.com>
Ok Sam Buchanan:
After not bothering to respond to the email I sent you off list, you've
finally answered part of my questions to you. Specifically that the Navaid
works "OK" if you understand how it operates and use it to its full
potential. Great, that's good to hear. NOW..could you please tell me and
the rest of the people on the list about the EZ Pilot electronics that
you've mated to your Navaid servo???? You say that the digital autopilots
are light years beyond the Navaid, great generalization, everybody else says
that too!!! How bout some good solid opinion on the EZ Pilot II by someone
who's used it quit a bit lately??? Don't worry about stirring up a hornets
nest with the Tru Track people, I'm counting on that to get the rest of the
information I'm seeking. Now come on.cough it up!!!!
Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6A N197DM
Panel and wiring
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Subject: | Re: H2AD series engines |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd@yahoo.com>
I had an O-320H2AD engine in my C-172. I had it overhauled and ran it for 2400
hours with absolutely no significant problems. The only thing that gave me problems
was the dual mag, which is a pain to work on and I don't think is a good
idea. The engine compression was still in the mid to low 70's when I sold
it. It was a great engine. We used Aeroshell 15w-50 which is required by AD
(or you can use the Lyc additive). But I believe the real key is the plane flew
frequently and never sat for more than 2 or 3 days without being flown.
Jeff Bertsch
lonestarsquadron.com
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Subject: | Attachment showing up in RV List (or do I have a virus)???????? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Thanks.
It seems to have stopped after a few emails.
Hmmmm,
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of cgalley
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 8:56 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Attachment showing up in RV List (or do I have a
> virus)????????
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> If you have an attachment then the sending address is spoofed. All
> attachments on the Matronics list are stripped.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Attachment showing up in RV List (or do I have a
> virus)????????
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark"
> <james@nextupventures.com>
> >
> > Anyone else out there getting mail from the RV-List with an
> "attachment"?
> >
> > Hope I don't have a virus or something. (Should be protected by virus
> > protection s/w)
> >
> > James
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Navaid VS EZ Pilot! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Dean Psiropoulos wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Psiropoulos" <deanpsir@easystreet.com>
>
> Ok Sam Buchanan:
>
>
>After not bothering to respond to the email I sent you off list, you've
>finally answered part of my questions to you. Specifically that the Navaid
>works "OK" if you understand how it operates and use it to its full
>potential. Great, that's good to hear. NOW..could you please tell me and
>the rest of the people on the list about the EZ Pilot electronics that
>you've mated to your Navaid servo???? You say that the digital autopilots
>are light years beyond the Navaid, great generalization, everybody else says
>that too!!! How bout some good solid opinion on the EZ Pilot II by someone
>who's used it quit a bit lately??? Don't worry about stirring up a hornets
>nest with the Tru Track people, I'm counting on that to get the rest of the
>information I'm seeking. Now come on.cough it up!!!!
>
>
>Dean Psiropoulos
>
>RV-6A N197DM
>
>Panel and wiring
>
>
>
Dean, I believe Sam has addressed that on list in the past.
do not archive
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