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1. 12:22 AM - Re: Landing gear intersection fairings. (Dan Checkoway)
2. 12:45 AM - Re: > Re: Brake Fluid (Bob 1)
3. 01:18 AM - Re: Why such short rivets? (Jeff Point)
4. 01:58 AM - Re: Why such short rivets? ()
5. 05:18 AM - Old-style RV8 Wing tips wanted (Don Kugler)
6. 06:07 AM - Re: K1100-06 nutplate installation on e-616 - Problem Solved (Mike Draper)
7. 06:20 AM - Re: Dynon D-10 errors (Ronnie Brown)
8. 06:20 AM - Re: Austin's "Mirror" (Scott Bilinski)
9. 06:26 AM - Re: Landing gear intersection fairings. (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
10. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: K1100-06 nutplate installation on e-616 - Problem Solved (Ben Cunningham)
11. 08:08 AM - RV6a kit for sale (John Veld)
12. 11:10 AM - Fw: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs (Tom Gummo)
13. 11:26 AM - Increasing Vne (Mickey Coggins)
14. 11:27 AM - Re: Landing gear intersection fairings. (Stein Bruch)
15. 11:30 AM - Re: > Re: Brake Fluid ()
16. 11:48 AM - Re: Landing gear intersection fairings. (Sam Buchanan)
17. 01:22 PM - Got Lockwasher? (DAVID REEL)
18. 02:13 PM - Re: Got Lockwasher? (Jeff Orear)
19. 02:19 PM - Re: Got Lockwasher? (linn walters)
20. 02:50 PM - Blue Mountain EFIS Lite Gen 3: WAS Dynon (RV8ter@aol.com)
21. 03:07 PM - #6 Tefzel wire on ebay (Gert)
22. 03:10 PM - Re: how to feed the battery cable through the firewall?? (Gert)
23. 03:13 PM - Re: Got Lockwasher? (Stein Bruch)
24. 04:33 PM - Re: #6 Tefzel wire on ebay (Stein Bruch)
25. 05:06 PM - Re: #6 Tefzel wire on ebay (Gert)
26. 06:38 PM - Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area (Dan Checkoway)
27. 06:51 PM - Re: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area (Ralph E. Capen)
28. 07:10 PM - Re: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area (Dan Checkoway)
29. 07:11 PM - Re: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area (Charlie England)
30. 08:36 PM - engine cores (rv6tc)
31. 08:53 PM - Re: engine cores (Bruce Gray)
32. 08:53 PM - Re: engine cores (David Carter)
33. 09:05 PM - Re: engine cores (RV6 Flyer)
34. 09:07 PM - Riveting Aileron Top Skin ()
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear intersection fairings. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.teamrocketaircraft.com is another one to try. I just called
today and was told that the intersection fairings they sell are about 3/4"
longer in chord than the way Van's stock leg fairings come out. He said
that the Team Rocket intersection fairings will only work with Team Rocket
leg fairings, otherwise they'll require some surgery to make 'em fit. I'm
just repeating what I was told...can't vouch either way.
I ordered my uppers from Bob S. at Fairings, etc. They're very high quality
but weren't a perfect fit. It ended up being fine with a little
fiberglass/flox surgery. I ordered my lowers from him earlier today...we'll
see how well they fit.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (208 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Psiropoulos" <deanpsir@easystreet.com>
Subject: RV-List: Landing gear intersection fairings.
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Psiropoulos"
<deanpsir@easystreet.com>
>
> Anyone know where I can get pre-made landing gear intersection fairings
for
> my -6A. I checked the archives and "Fairings-etc." popped up. I was able
to
> locate the website and these look like good pieces but does anyone ELSE
sell
> something similar? Just wondering if there's more than one vendor out
there
> now. Thanks.
>
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
>
> RV-6A N197DM
>
> Survived Hurricanes Charley and Frances, wondering if Ivan will be strike
3
> and I'm out, jeeeezzz is it ever gonna stop?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: > Re: Brake Fluid |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> Better be careful using any DOT fluids. Automotive brake fluid (Glycerine
> based) is NOT compatible with aircraft brake systems. You will wind up
with a
> gooey mess which is hard to clean out of the brake system. A friend did
this.
NOW you tell me. <smirk>
> Lest someone goes to buy auto brake fluid.
Or....
Vice-versa.
Back when the earth, dinosaurs and I wuz young,
I needed to top off my CAR'S brake system.
All I had handy..... was AIRCRAFT brake fluid.
Big mistake.
About day three....
I stepped on the brakes and they would not release.
Not funny then...
or now. <g>
Bob
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Why such short rivets? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> 1) How far should these "short" rivets be squeezed? Should I squeeze to
>the same 1/2 the radius rule as normal? Or should I squeeze farther to get
>more of a shop head on the rivet?
>
On my 6 plans, I came across numerous places where the called-for rivet
(and sometimes bolt) sizes were a size off. If in doubt, use the
correct size rivet as indicated by your handy rivet gauge. If a rivet
is so short that you have to ask the above question, than it is too
short. Too short a rivet and there will not be enough material there
to make a proper sized shop head. Too long and the rivet is much more
likely to hobnail over on you. When debating between two sizes, I
usually go with the smaller size for this reason. A correct length
rivet leaves more than plenty of material, in other words a good margin
for error.
On the subject of shop heads, make sure you get and read the Milspec on
riveting:
http://home.flash.net/~gila/rivet_spec/rivet_a.htm
In particular, the specifics on edge distance and shop head size. The
rules of thumb (1 1/2X diameter etc.) are handy, but you'll see that the
actual allowables go a little less than that. That little bit less can
often be the difference between moving forward with the project, and
throwing out a perfectly good piece and starting over because your edge
distance was a few thousandths under 1 1/2X, but still well within the
Milspec, for example.
After you get enough experience (like when you've smashed all 17
gazzilion rivets in the plane) you'll be able to eyeball them and tell
if they are long enough or too long, but for now use the gauge. I found
by the end that I wasn't even looking at the rivet callouts, just
eyeballing the thickness of the materials, grabbing the right size rivet
and smashing away.
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
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>
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| Subject: | Why such short rivets? |
--> RV-List message posted by: <dfiggins@es.com>
Eddie
I am also on empennage for RV-7A and noticed same problem, squeezed them
down to close to shop size (using Avery gauge) and they seem fine. You
will find a couple of other areas where a rivet size is called out that
either does not seem correct (on front spar they call out -7 which are
too long) or the size specified is not included in the kit (-5) I ended
up using the rivet cutter to get rivets the correct length. I have noted
a couple of other areas where the instructions left a little to be
desired on my weblog.On the marking issue I use permanent marker which
shows through the mar-hyde primer.
Dave RV-7A Empennage
http://home.earthlink.net/~2004nospam/default.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ed
Subject: RV-List: Why such short rivets?
--> RV-List message posted by: "ed " <ed_88@hotmail.com>
Hello listers, I've recently started building the emp kit for my
rv-8a, and I've run into my first question that I cant seem to find
discussed in the archives.
According to the plans HS609PP is supposed to be riveted to HS603PP
using
AN470AD4-6 rivets. But when I did a test fitting the rivet looked too
short.
I got out the avery gauge, and indeed it looks about 1/8" shorter than
the gauge says it should be.
So of course I went back to the plans, and they said the rivet size
was correct. (I guess I am not the first person to wonder this.) I
re-read the section in the preview plans which talks about riveting, and
they mentioned the plans sometimes called for rivets that seemed too
short, but they thought should work. Unfortuately this leaves me with a
couple of questions:
1) How far should these "short" rivets be squeezed? Should I squeeze
to the same 1/2 the radius rule as normal? Or should I squeeze farther
to get more of a shop head on the rivet?
2) Why do they do this? Does using shorter rivets save weight over
the course of the entire airplane?
3) Why do the plans say never to use a vibrating pencil to mark
parts, then say it is ok on the rear spar of the horiz. stab? How can I
tell when it is ok and when its not ok. (Ok that one has nothing to do
with riveting, but I thought I would ask anyway.)
Once again, the people on this list are a huge resource, I don't know
who the early builders managed without it.
--Eddie
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| Subject: | Old-style RV8 Wing tips wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Kugler" <donkugler@earthlink.net>
I'm looking for a pair of the old-style, original, wing tips for an RV8. If
anyone has a set they would like to sell, please contact me off list.
-Don
RV8 NJ
Don Kugler
donkugler@earthlink.net
908-303-6578
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| Subject: | Re: K1100-06 nutplate installation on e-616 - Problem Solved |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mike Draper <mdraper@nww.com>
I finally figured it out last night after I saw a picture on the net with
different looking nutplates.
Having never installed a nutplate I assumed that the nutplates I received
were the correct ones. Wrong! Vans inadvertently sent me K1000-06s which
are non dimpled nutplates. There was no way for the nutplate to receive a
dimple from the reinforcement plate and the reinforcement plate is too thin
to countersink. The nutplates they sent me would only work with pan head
screws.
It all makes sense now. Get Vans to send me the correct nutplates, dimple
the reinforcement plate, use NAS rivets to attach.
-Mike Draper
RV-8 QB
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I finally figured it
out last night after I saw a picture on the net with different looking
nutplates.
<FONT
face=Arial size=2>
Having never
installed a nutplate I assumed that the nutplates I received were the correct
ones. Wrong! Vans inadvertently sent me K1000-06s which are non
dimpled nutplates. There was no way for the nutplate to receive a dimple
from the reinforcement plate and the reinforcement plate is too thin to
countersink. The nutplates they sent me would only work with pan
head screws.
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class=920015212-08092004>
It all makes sense
now.GetVans to send me the correct nutplates,dimple the
reinforcement plate, use NAS rivets to attach.
<SPAN
class=920015212-08092004>
<SPAN
class=920015212-08092004>
-Mike<SPAN
class=354580313-08092004> Draper
<SPAN
class=920015212-08092004>
RV-8
QB
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10 errors |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ronnie Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
There is indeed a vibration problem that will affect the Pitch and Roll functions
of the Dynon.
I saw it with my own two eyes in a Rotax 912 powered Europa. The owner has been
receiving IFR training and he began noticing an pitch oscillation while in descent.
It would begin oscillating about 5 degrees with a fairly high frequency,
then would oscillate at 10-15 degrees at a slower frequency.
He finally figured out that it was indeed engine RPM related and can adjust the
RPM to cause the small oscillation or the wide oscillation and even can cause
the horizon to show a complete dive (all brown).
He is updating the software - Dynon has provided him with an update which has a
different sampling rate and is supposed to fix the problem. The software has
been loaded but we are in the midst of the remains of Frances here in NC. He
should be able to fly later this week and see if he has a fix.
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| Subject: | Re: Austin's "Mirror" |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Send me a copy!
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear intersection fairings. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
In a message dated 9/8/04 12:00:12 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
deanpsir@easystreet.com writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Psiropoulos" <deanpsir@easystreet.com>
>
> Anyone know where I can get pre-made landing gear intersection fairings for
> my -6A. I checked the archives and "Fairings-etc." popped up. I was able to
> locate the website and these look like good pieces but does anyone ELSE sell
> something similar? Just wondering if there's more than one vendor out there
> now. Thanks.
>
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
>
> RV-6A N197DM
>
Dean,
When I returned to my plane at OSH, there was a card from John A. Violette
president of Aero Composites, Inc. on my plane. He is in Kensington, CT. Phone
860 829 6809. Website: aerocomposites.com.
I haven't seen his work. Think I'll make my own. The lower intersection
fairings went pretty well, but I've been having too much fun flying to get the
upper ones done yet!
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (flying about 41 hours)
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| Subject: | Re: K1100-06 nutplate installation on e-616 - Problem Solved |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ben Cunningham" <benandginny@insightbb.com>
Mike,
Make sure you check every little bag for those 1100-06's. Vans has a way of
hiding stuff.
Ben Cunningham
RV7 finish kit
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Draper" <mdraper@nww.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: K1100-06 nutplate installation on e-616 - Problem
Solved
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mike Draper <mdraper@nww.com>
>
> I finally figured it out last night after I saw a picture on the net with
> different looking nutplates.
>
> Having never installed a nutplate I assumed that the nutplates I received
> were the correct ones. Wrong! Vans inadvertently sent me K1000-06s which
> are non dimpled nutplates. There was no way for the nutplate to receive
a
> dimple from the reinforcement plate and the reinforcement plate is too
thin
> to countersink. The nutplates they sent me would only work with pan head
> screws.
>
> It all makes sense now. Get Vans to send me the correct nutplates, dimple
> the reinforcement plate, use NAS rivets to attach.
>
>
> -Mike Draper
>
> RV-8 QB
>
>
> Message
>
> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR>
>
>
> I finally figured it
> out last night after I saw a picture on the net with different looking
> nutplates.
> <FONT
> face=Arial size=2>
> Having never
> installed a nutplate I assumed that the nutplates I received were the
correct
> ones. Wrong! Vans inadvertently sent me K1000-06s which are non
> dimpled nutplates. There was no way for the nutplate to receive a dimple
> from the reinforcement plate and the reinforcement plate is too thin to
> countersink. The nutplates they sent me would only work with pan
> head screws.
> <SPAN
> class=920015212-08092004>
> It all makes sense
> now.GetVans to send me the correct nutplates,dimple the
> reinforcement plate, use NAS rivets to attach.
> <SPAN
> class=920015212-08092004>
> <SPAN
> class=920015212-08092004>
> -Mike<SPAN
> class=354580313-08092004> Draper
> <SPAN
> class=920015212-08092004>
> RV-8
> QB
>
>
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| Subject: | RV6a kit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Veld <jcveld@mac.com>
I have an old, 'slow build' (not pre-punched) RV6a kit I would like to
sell. Progress is; empenage, 90%, wing, 25%, fuselage, not started. I
do not have a finishing kit, engine, or avionics.
I have had it for several years but have done nothing on it for the
last couple of years.
I am asking $6,500 for the kit.
Contact me email jcveld@mac.com
or phone 269 267-2509
I am in Kalamazoo, MI
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"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>,
"SoCal RV List" <socal-rvlist@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | Fw: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Sounds like things are back on.
PLEASE GET BACK WITH ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
After I got them to change their minds, at least we can do is show up.
WHO IS GOING TO FLY TO THE PT. MUGU AIR SHOW?
Which day or days.?
GummiBear
----- Original Message -----
From: Boggs, William A LCDR
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Mr. Gummo,
We put our heads together this morning, and out of the pile of rocks we have come
up with a proposal. While the Pt. Mugu Air Show is a "military" show, it is
also a "community event." We want to be as inclusive as possible, within limits.
Having said all that, we can dig up some extra bodies to make a hole in
the fence Sat. & Sun. morning and evening to allow you and your group to get
in and out. The arrival window would be 0645-0730, and the departure time would
be after 1730. Is this doable?
V/r,
LCDR Bill Boggs
NBVC Point Mugu
Air Operations Officer
Comm: (805) 989-7041
DSN: 351-7041
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gummo [mailto:T.gummo@verizon.net]
Subject: Re: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Sir,
I understand your problem and don't see a way around it. I live in Apple Valley
and the other SoCal RVators are from all over the southern California area.
If we fly our planes in Thursday or Friday, what am we going to do for those
four days (Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday). We have no place to stay
, etc. I can't ask someone to drive two plus hours (one way) to Pt. Mugu
and pick me up and then do it again on Monday to get the plane.
Of course not at a military field, we have flown in before the gates open and
leave after the show closes or near the end. Our planes only weigh about 1000
pounds and are very easily pushed passed the prop line (crowd control line)
but we would need a gate if there is a fence.
I would like to thank you for your efforts at the last minute to try to make
this work out. I would be glad to try again next time to make this work. Hopefully,
if I can get involved early in the planning process, I would be able
to clear up our needs with your requirements. There are many other issues that
would need to be worked out to have the planes RON for the weekend.
Also, let me take a minute to thank you and all the Pt. Mugu folks for your
service to our country.
My time in the barrel has passed but I see that it is in very good hands. Hand
salute.
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1753
F-4G Instructor Pilot
Major USAF, Retired
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket - II
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Boggs, William A LCDR
To: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Cc: Tom Gummo ; Krumholz, Paul J LT ; Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E
; Graziano, Thomas A CDR
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Sir,
The Thurs. arrival time was to facilitate fence installation. We can adjust
that to allow for the group to fly in Friday morning. After that the airfield
will be closed for performer practice and finalizing field set up. We will have
a few tactical aircraft arriving Friday evening, but that is on the other
side of the airfield from where we will spot the RV's. Once they arrive, they
need to stay for the whole weekend.
V/r,
LCDR Bill Boggs
NBVC Point Mugu
Air Operations Officer
Comm: (805) 989-7041
DSN: 351-7041
-----Original Message-----
From: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 17:19
To: Boggs, William A LCDR
Cc: 'Tom Gummo'; Krumholz, Paul J LT; Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Importance: High
Bill,
This very late proposal to the RV group is completely out of line with what had
been described during our earlier discussions. There is no way they can bring
in their aircraft on Thursday and leave them for the weekend. It's not like
you're paying them or providing fuel like you are for other acts and displays.
There must be some way this can be worked out? I've worked this airshow
for many years in the past doing everything from setting up seating to coordinating
the performers and we've always had a way to get a few folks in and out
before/after the show times.
VR,
CAPT Mark Swaney, USN
Vice Commander, NAVAIR's Weapons Division
Point Mugu & China Lake, CA
Email: mark.swaney@navy.mil
805-989-7113 (Office)
805-816-3042 (Cellular)
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gummo [mailto:T.gummo@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 17:06
To: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Subject: Fw: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
WOW.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Krumholz, Paul J LT
To: Tom Gummo
Cc: Boggs, William A LCDR
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Tom,
We are expecting 8 RVators for the show. I got the insurance papaers from Rick.
I think as long as everyone has their DD2400 with them we should be good.
However, there is just no way you can leave Saturday and bring in 8 different
aircraft. There is too much in the way between your parking and the rwy. Our
contractor is putting up the crowd control fence on Thursday afternoon, can
you arrive prior to this? Sorry for the hassles, let me know what you can do.
V/R,
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gummo [mailto:T.gummo@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 15:29
To: Krumholz, Paul J LT
Cc: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Subject: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Paul,
Just checking in with you about the air show. I understand Capt Swaney has been
working with you on our behalf.
I understand Rick Gould has take my DD 2400, DD 2401, DD 2402 forms to you.
You stated in one of your emails about making sure the insurance is in order.
Just what paperwork will we need?
Will we be able to leave Saturday evening after the show and fly in new planes
Sunday?
Can I leave my plane over night and stay both days?
I would be glad to fly to Pt Mugu or CMA and met with you.
Thanks,
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1753
F-4G Instructor Pilot, USAF, Major Retired
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi,
The discussions about aerobatics and not exceeding Vne
made me wonder what kinds of things would need to be
done to increase the Vne for an RV.
I guess the Rocket guys have done something in this
respect, so there must be some experience. I'm
mainly thinking about issues like flutter.
Anything we can do without a total redesign?
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| Subject: | Landing gear intersection fairings. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
The Team rocket fairings are the way to go, even with the gear legs. They
are thicker, beefier and believe it or not just look better on the plane.
When I part my 2 RV6's side by side, the one with the rocket fairings always
looks better. It just looks a bit stronger and bigger. The prices are the
same as Van's, and the intersection fairings are a fairly nice fit, but
still require some tweaking. You can see a crappy picture of them at:
http://www.steinair.com/engine.htm at the very bottom of the page. I'll get
some more pics this afternoon if anyone wants them (contactme off list).
Anyay, just my 2 cents. Any new RV's from me will have the rocket fairings.
FYI, my Black RV6 has the fairings from Bob at fairings, etc.. and they also
work fine.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing gear intersection fairings.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.teamrocketaircraft.com is another one to try. I just called
today and was told that the intersection fairings they sell are about 3/4"
longer in chord than the way Van's stock leg fairings come out. He said
that the Team Rocket intersection fairings will only work with Team Rocket
leg fairings, otherwise they'll require some surgery to make 'em fit. I'm
just repeating what I was told...can't vouch either way.
I ordered my uppers from Bob S. at Fairings, etc. They're very high quality
but weren't a perfect fit. It ended up being fine with a little
fiberglass/flox surgery. I ordered my lowers from him earlier today...we'll
see how well they fit.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (208 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Psiropoulos" <deanpsir@easystreet.com>
Subject: RV-List: Landing gear intersection fairings.
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Psiropoulos"
<deanpsir@easystreet.com>
>
> Anyone know where I can get pre-made landing gear intersection fairings
for
> my -6A. I checked the archives and "Fairings-etc." popped up. I was able
to
> locate the website and these look like good pieces but does anyone ELSE
sell
> something similar? Just wondering if there's more than one vendor out
there
> now. Thanks.
>
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
>
> RV-6A N197DM
>
> Survived Hurricanes Charley and Frances, wondering if Ivan will be strike
3
> and I'm out, jeeeezzz is it ever gonna stop?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: > Re: Brake Fluid |
--> RV-List message posted by: <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Bob,
DOT 5 is not gylcerine based, it's silicone based. It's fairly inert. Not at all
like DOT 2, 3 or 4
Charlie Kuss
>
> From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
> Date: 2004/09/07 Tue PM 10:37:27 EDT
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: > Re: Brake Fluid
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing gear intersection fairings. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Stein Bruch wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> The Team rocket fairings are the way to go, even with the gear legs. They
> are thicker, beefier and believe it or not just look better on the plane.
> When I part my 2 RV6's side by side, the one with the rocket fairings always
> looks better. It just looks a bit stronger and bigger. The prices are the
> same as Van's, and the intersection fairings are a fairly nice fit, but
> still require some tweaking. You can see a crappy picture of them at:
> http://www.steinair.com/engine.htm at the very bottom of the page. I'll get
> some more pics this afternoon if anyone wants them (contactme off list).
>
> Anyay, just my 2 cents. Any new RV's from me will have the rocket fairings.
>
> FYI, my Black RV6 has the fairings from Bob at fairings, etc.. and they also
> work fine.
More photos and copy about the attractive Team Rocket fairings:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/fairings.htm
Sam Buchanan
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"aeroelectric-list" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
I need one switch locking washer, you know, the kind with tabs that prevent switch
rotation in the mounting hole, to complete my panel installation. If anyone
out there bought a dozen when they were in the same situation & could mail
me one, drop me an email & I'll send you back a buck.
Do not archive.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Got Lockwasher? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Dave:
Steinair has them for $.25 each. Go to www.steinair.com and click on
"switches."
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P (reserved)
firewall forward
Peshtigo, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
<aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Got Lockwasher?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
> I need one switch locking washer, you know, the kind with tabs that
prevent switch rotation in the mounting hole, to complete my panel
installation. If anyone out there bought a dozen when they were in the same
situation & could mail me one, drop me an email & I'll send you back a buck.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Got Lockwasher? |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
DAVID REEL wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
>I need one switch locking washer, you know, the kind with tabs that prevent switch
rotation in the mounting hole, to complete my panel installation. If anyone
out there bought a dozen when they were in the same situation & could mail
me one, drop me an email & I'll send you back a buck.
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Dave Reel - RV8A
>
Dave, for what it's worth, I do not use the tab. I turn the washer over
so the tab points away from the panel or cut it off altogether. There
is enough friction in the mounting hardware to prevent rotation without
tightening up the nut like a gorilla. Most switches are in a row with
some common spacing between them .... same with ckt breakers ..... and
you can make a block out of wood that will fit that space and it'll keep
the switch from rotating while you tighten down the nut.
Linn
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| Subject: | Blue Mountain EFIS Lite Gen 3: WAS Dynon |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
Do we have any PIREPS on the smallest Blue Mountain EFIS Lite Gen 3 system yet?
do they have an email list where they discuss their product (their own web site
doesn't have much on the discussion board).
do not archive
In a message dated 9/7/2004 1:50:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
writes:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
>MS,
>
>thanks for the report, I haven't had most of those issues, but I haven't
>necessarily done those manuvers with the intent of diagnosing a problem.
>I'll print this and go check mine. That said I'm up in the 400-500 hour
>range of operation and so far the only real error is the pitch lag during
>rapid changes in velocity like a loop or a set of knife edge dutch type
>rolls.
>
>There was a period where I was getting some slight lean for awhile but that
>seems to have cleared up.
>
>RPM issue, mostly I keep things at 2200-2400 so I may not be in the range
>you are seeing this. I have the FP Sensenich though so RPM issues may act
>differently from a CS prop. The question I am asking myself is what effects
>on forces and attitude does RPM have. So far the only thing that comes to
>mind is yaw and panel vibration.
>
>The other question that comes up is why is there different behaviour between
>units. Is it the unit's or the airplane, or the installation. One line of
>thought would be to put your unit in a different airplane and see if it
>behaves the same, then try a different unit in your plane, then try it in
>your plane but installed differently, say velcroed somewhere. Also would be
>interesting to see if it is different with connector disconnected operating
>on battery power. Not sure about this last one, but RF and spikes do strange
>things.
>
>I'll let you know my results as soon as work/life lets me go fly some more.
>I did play with it some going to Vans as per Dynon's request but saw no
>errors. Your data gives me some more specifics to try.
>
>W
>
>
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rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | #6 Tefzel wire on ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Just noticed somebody selling (supposedly) #6 Tefzel wire for 0.89/foot
and thought I pass it along.
top of page price is 0.99, scroll down a little and the 'buy it now'
price per foot is 0.89.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2489101063&category=26439&sspagename=WDVW
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| Subject: | Re: how to feed the battery cable through the firewall?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Maybe, don't know, but I would use a high temp plastic material if I
would make/use one.
thomas a. sargent wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
>
> I would be a little suspicious about the thru-bolt type of pass-thru.
> The insulating material seems to be (from the pictures, anyway) a
> plastic of some sort. I would think a fire would ruin that in seconds.
> Do they make these things with a ceramic insulator?
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Just as a quick note....I quit stocking the "tabbed" washers and now only
stock the internal tooth washers made specifically for anti-rotation of the
switches. The tabs are overkill and not necessary. As said below, you'll
find you really don't need them at all.
Just my 2 cents!
Cheers,
Stein
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV-List: Got Lockwasher?
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
DAVID REEL wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
>I need one switch locking washer, you know, the kind with tabs that prevent
switch rotation in the mounting hole, to complete my panel installation. If
anyone out there bought a dozen when they were in the same situation & could
mail me one, drop me an email & I'll send you back a buck.
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Dave Reel - RV8A
>
Dave, for what it's worth, I do not use the tab. I turn the washer over
so the tab points away from the panel or cut it off altogether. There
is enough friction in the mounting hardware to prevent rotation without
tightening up the nut like a gorilla. Most switches are in a row with
some common spacing between them .... same with ckt breakers ..... and
you can make a block out of wood that will fit that space and it'll keep
the switch from rotating while you tighten down the nut.
Linn
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| Subject: | #6 Tefzel wire on ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
I purchased some of this wire just to look at it......
It's 16+ years old.
It's 22759/43, Not 22759/16 that is normally used in aircraft.
It's OK wire, it's just old with a different coating (silver vs. tin) on the
copper conductor. Not a big problem, but fairly stiff because of the
conductor.
Just a bit of info.
Cheers,
Stein
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gert
Subject: RV-List: #6 Tefzel wire on ebay
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Just noticed somebody selling (supposedly) #6 Tefzel wire for 0.89/foot
and thought I pass it along.
top of page price is 0.99, scroll down a little and the 'buy it now'
price per foot is 0.89.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=248910106
3&category=26439&sspagename=WDVW
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| Subject: | Re: #6 Tefzel wire on ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Thanks Stein !!
Stein Bruch wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> I purchased some of this wire just to look at it......
>
> It's 16+ years old.
> It's 22759/43, Not 22759/16 that is normally used in aircraft.
>
> It's OK wire, it's just old with a different coating (silver vs. tin) on the
> copper conductor. Not a big problem, but fairly stiff because of the
> conductor.
>
> Just a bit of info.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gert
> To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com; rv-list
> Subject: RV-List: #6 Tefzel wire on ebay
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
>
> Just noticed somebody selling (supposedly) #6 Tefzel wire for 0.89/foot
> and thought I pass it along.
>
> top of page price is 0.99, scroll down a little and the 'buy it now'
> price per foot is 0.89.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=248910106
> 3&category=26439&sspagename=WDVW
> --
> is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I'm wondering if anybody from the Dallas area can give a first RV ride to a
buddy of mine. His name is Troy Whistman, and I Cc'd him on this email.
He's contemplating building an RV and has never had an RV grin...any takers?
Thanks in advance!
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Best I can do is give him a look at mine under construction @ TKI this
weekend and refer him to my EAA chapter at tomorrow nites meeting.......
Ralph Capen
N822AR RV6A - plexi and fiberglass.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> I'm wondering if anybody from the Dallas area can give a first RV ride to
a
> buddy of mine. His name is Troy Whistman, and I Cc'd him on this email.
> He's contemplating building an RV and has never had an RV grin...any
takers?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
It looks like the list ate the Cc field...Troy's email address is
troy@whistman.com.
do not archive
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> I'm wondering if anybody from the Dallas area can give a first RV ride to
a
> buddy of mine. His name is Troy Whistman, and I Cc'd him on this email.
> He's contemplating building an RV and has never had an RV grin...any
takers?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for first RV ride, Dallas area |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Dan Checkoway wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
>I'm wondering if anybody from the Dallas area can give a first RV ride to a
>buddy of mine. His name is Troy Whistman, and I Cc'd him on this email.
>He's contemplating building an RV and has never had an RV grin...any takers?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>)_( Dan
>RV-7 N714D
>http://www.rvproject.com
>
I'm planning on making the flyin in Monroe LA this Saturday. If he can
fly/drive there I'd be glad to accomodate. (long drive but not too bad a
flight even in something slow)
Charlie
flying -4
-7 wings
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--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Insensitive question follows......
Given the recent disaster(s) in Florida, one would assume that a number of
rebuild-able engines/ cores would soon come on the market. If that is the
case, do insurance companies sell directly to individuals, or are they all
going to the big name shops? I'm not sure of the procedures involved when
the claims get settled to part out the remains. Info would be appreciated.
Keith Hughes
Denver
RV-6 finish
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
The normal procedure is that the insurance companies put the aircraft up
for salvage bid (auction). You have to buy the entire aircraft. I know
of several builders who have done this. Take what you want from the
wreak and sell the rest to a salvage yard. A google search of aircraft
insurance companies and a few phone calls will get you on their bidders
list and you'll be all set.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv6tc
Subject: RV-List: engine cores
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Insensitive question follows......
Given the recent disaster(s) in Florida, one would assume that a number
of
rebuild-able engines/ cores would soon come on the market. If that is
the
case, do insurance companies sell directly to individuals, or are they
all
going to the big name shops? I'm not sure of the procedures involved
when
the claims get settled to part out the remains. Info would be
appreciated.
Keith Hughes
Denver
RV-6 finish
do not archive
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: engine cores |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
I'm on the lookout for an RX-8 engine - I'm told that you need to get to the
insurance company BEFORE they ship the car to some "auction site" or other
style holding area. I'm in Beaumont, Texas and wrecked cars mostly are
shipped over to Houston.
You almost have to know when the accident happens and contact the tow
service that has, or is familiar with, the physical possession of the car,
prior to insurance company disposal.
What you do, if you should find a car locally that hasn't been disposed of,
is contact the insurance company direct and make them an offer that saves
them some transportation expense or otherwise make them an offer they will
accept.
I just called my local Mazda dealer today (again) and asked "sales" if they
knew of any recent customers who had wrecked their RX-8.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Subject: RV-List: engine cores
> --> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
>
> Insensitive question follows......
>
> Given the recent disaster(s) in Florida, one would assume that a number of
> rebuild-able engines/ cores would soon come on the market. If that is the
> case, do insurance companies sell directly to individuals, or are they all
> going to the big name shops? I'm not sure of the procedures involved
when
> the claims get settled to part out the remains. Info would be
appreciated.
>
> Keith Hughes
> Denver
> RV-6 finish
>
> do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Keith:
I have only bid on a couple of aircraft in the past. Typically you have to
bid on the entire aircraft and it is always to my knowledge as is where is.
http://www.aviation-salvage.com/
I purchased a wrecked Tri-Pacer of $2,600 delivered form a private party. I
saw my engine run before purchasing the wreck minus wings and radios. That
was 10 or twelve years ago. On the 17th, my airplane has been flying 7
years. The engine has over 4,500 hours on it.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,584 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Subject: RV-List: engine cores
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Insensitive question follows......
Given the recent disaster(s) in Florida, one would assume that a number of
rebuild-able engines/ cores would soon come on the market. If that is the
case, do insurance companies sell directly to individuals, or are they all
going to the big name shops? I'm not sure of the procedures involved when
the claims get settled to part out the remains. Info would be appreciated.
Keith Hughes
Denver
RV-6 finish
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Riveting Aileron Top Skin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
List,
Any suggestions on how best to rivet the aileron top skin? I am hesitant to start,
as I see myself making a golf ball out of this one. I read Dan C's method...I
will likely go that route if I don't get any better ideas.
Thanks in advance,
Scott
7A Wings done, finishing control surfaces
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