---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/30/04: 29 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:20 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (RV8ter@aol.com) 2. 03:29 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (RV8ter@aol.com) 3. 06:03 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (RVEIGHTA@aol.com) 4. 06:23 AM - Re: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy (Alex Peterson) 5. 06:24 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 6. 06:27 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (RV_8 Pilot) 7. 06:31 AM - Re: 2 VS 3 BLADES CATTO (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 8. 06:32 AM - Re: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy (Alex Peterson) 9. 06:32 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 10. 06:39 AM - Re: 2 VS 3 BLADES CATTO (Jeff Orear) 11. 06:43 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Larry Bowen) 12. 06:45 AM - Re: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy (Larry Bowen) 13. 06:46 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Ken Simmons) 14. 07:01 AM - Re: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy (Alex Peterson) 15. 08:12 AM - Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (Mickey Coggins) 16. 08:27 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Kathleen@rv7.us) 17. 10:00 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Sam Buchanan) 18. 10:28 AM - Re: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade (Bob 1) 19. 01:44 PM - KLX-135A (Aircraft Spruce) 20. 02:14 PM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (Brian Denk) 21. 04:17 PM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (Kysh) 22. 04:45 PM - Flightline Interiors Work (John) 23. 05:05 PM - VRML Model of an RV? (Nauga) 24. 05:51 PM - Re: Flightline Interiors Work (RV8ter@aol.com) 25. 06:49 PM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (Tom Gummo) 26. 07:28 PM - Re: Flightline Interiors Work (John) 27. 09:36 PM - Builders of the Quickbuilds (Brian Denk) 28. 09:46 PM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (DejaVu) 29. 10:30 PM - Re: Builders of the Quickbuilds (Dan Checkoway) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:19 AM PST US From: RV8ter@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com Where do you see the 2000C for $999? In a message dated 9/29/2004 10:53:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, dfenstermacher@earthlink.net writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" I, personally, think the lowrance 1000/2000C choice is a no brainer. Don't know why you would buy anything else. $999.00 color 750.00 B&W Put it on your knee; velcro to the panel.... Dave BTW: I, too, would like to know what they said about it. > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 9/29/2004 9:07:21 PM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy > > --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com > > > What did the say about the new lowrance 2000C? > > do not archive > In a message dated 9/29/2004 9:02:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, > terry@tcwatson.com writes: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" > > Doug, > > If you decide to go with a hand-held GPS, don't forget to have a look at the > new $700 Garmin 96C. The current issue of Aviation Consumer reviews it and > the similar monochrome $500 96 quite favorably. > > Terry > > > --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net > > Hi listers, > > I don't want to start an argument, but I need some advice > on which GPS to buy. I've had the plane flying since last > November and I want to buy a GPS real soon! > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:14 AM PST US From: RV8ter@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com do not archive. they are everywhere! i hadn't looked in a while and nice to see the price is that low now for what you get! I thought they would raise the price when they added HAT awareness a la 296. In a message dated 9/30/2004 6:21:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, RV8ter@aol.com writes: --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com Where do you see the 2000C for $999? In a message dated 9/29/2004 10:53:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, dfenstermacher@earthlink.net writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" I, personally, think the lowrance 1000/2000C choice is a no brainer. Don't know why you would buy anything else. $999.00 color 750.00 B&W Put it on your knee; velcro to the panel.... Dave BTW: I, too, would like to know what they said about it. > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 9/29/2004 9:07:21 PM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy > > --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com > > > What did the say about the new lowrance 2000C? > > do not archive > In a message dated 9/29/2004 9:02:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, > terry@tcwatson.com writes: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" > > Doug, > > If you decide to go with a hand-held GPS, don't forget to have a look at the > new $700 Garmin 96C. The current issue of Aviation Consumer reviews it and > the similar monochrome $500 96 quite favorably. > > Terry > > > --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net > > Hi listers, > > I don't want to start an argument, but I need some advice > on which GPS to buy. I've had the plane flying since last > November and I want to buy a GPS real soon! > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:32 AM PST US From: RVEIGHTA@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com Doug, don't know anything about the Lowrance, but I have the Garmin 196 and I couldn't be happier! Before that I had the color Garmin 295 and it was unreadable in bright sunlight, so I wouldn't recommend it and, the new Garmin 296 may have the same issues. Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 under construction DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:06 AM PST US From: Alex Peterson Subject: Re: RV-List: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: Alex Peterson Doug, I just received an Anywhere Map with XM weather system, running on an IPAQ 5500. I also agree that these systems will transform flying. I only have a few hours experience with it, all in sunlight. It is quite readable, but, with my dark sunglasses on, the IPAQ needs to also be in the sun for me to see it. Without sunglasses, it is no problem. Alex Peterson RV6A 528 hours -----Original Message----- From: Doug Rozendaal Subject: RV-List: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" Doug, On board WX may be a factor to consider in your purchase. I did a demo on WX worx weather for an article for IFR magazine. This is a big deal! It is real, it works, and in a few years it will be nearly as common as GPS and everybit as useful. I went to OSH to buy a system to display WX weather. I came home confused. After that, I tried an Ipaq that belonged to a friend, with anywhere map and WX Worx weather. I thought it would be great in the RV, but I was very disappointed. the screen was hard to read, I don't think a mounted Ipaq would work, because I had to tilt it to deal with glare. The anywheremap software may work ok, but when you put the wx on the map, it overloads the processor. I tried a fujitsu p-600 with an ADR screen upgrade, and it is really cool, but it is a $4000 600mhz out of date tablet pc. Being true to my Dutch heritage, I just bought a fujitsu p600f on ebay for $600 to display WX worx. I made a little box with the reciever, USB hub to split the GPS/wx data, the power supply for the tablet pc. The 600F has a transflective display. if you move it around, it is always readable, the processor is slow but acceptable, the WXworx software works really well, but it seems to be a processor hog. The recommend a 1gig machine and the fujitsu is 600mhz. The WX worx software with a GPS doesn't replace a handheld GPS, it just tells you speed and heading and that is all. Other companies have and are creating software to run on the PC platform, and I may upgrade, but I will still have a battery powered handheld GPS onboard anytime I am IFR. ( I just bought a lowrance airmap 500 and I love it!) I have flown with the 196 and 296 and they are both great units, I like the small size of the 500 and the fact that it runs over 10hrs on 2 AA bats. I have flown 3 trips with the fujistu, and I am really happy with it. It is like having the ADDS weather site in your cockpit. One thing about it, an autopilot would be almost mandatory, because it captivates alot of attention, but it is GREAT information! Tailwinds Doug Rozendaal ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:20 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 9/29/04 4:27:55 PM Central Daylight Time, dmedema@att.net writes: > . Does anyone know what my options > are for a GPS with the X30? Is anyone using an Axim > with Anywhere Map? If so, how do you like it? >>>> Hi Doug- I would definately ask Control Vision if they guarantee the same functionality using the Dell as they do with the iPAQ. I'm using a pair of Dell X5s in my panel running PCFlightSystems EFIS on one and NavGPS on the other- the nav uses a Garmin 35 and the whole thing is integrated into one system. It all works quite well except there are a number of the features such as HITS and the air data interface that do not work. PCFlightSystems has been telling me the Dell serial interface is somehow "different" from HP and that they are working to resolve the problems, but still no updates since OSH. Perhaps CV has this resolved, or the X30 is fully compatible, but I'd sure ask! From The PossumWorks in TN Mark ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:51 AM PST US From: "RV_8 Pilot" Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" The Lowrance 1000/2000 looks interesting. Anyone have direct use experience with the lowrance products (Dave)? How fast is it? Example - my old Garmin Pilot III is annoyingly slow to regen the map when panning. The 196 has almost no delay in regen when panning across the map. Thanks Bryan Jones -8 do not archive > >I, personally, think the lowrance 1000/2000C choice is a no brainer. >Don't know why you would buy anything else. >$999.00 color >750.00 B&W >Put it on your knee; velcro to the panel.... > >Dave > >BTW: I, too, would like to know what they said about it. > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:35 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: 2 VS 3 BLADES CATTO --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com Fixed- foto sent off-list ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:04 AM PST US From: Alex Peterson Subject: Re: RV-List: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: Alex Peterson Correction: My Anywhere Map XM weather system uses an IPAQ 5550, not 5500. Alex Peterson RV6A 528 hours ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:46 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com In a message dated 9/30/04 8:04:44 AM US Eastern Standard Time, RVEIGHTA@aol.com writes: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com > > Doug, don't know anything about the Lowrance, but I have the Garmin 196 and > I > couldn't be happier! Before that I had the color Garmin 295 and it was > unreadable in bright sunlight, so I wouldn't recommend it and, the new > Garmin 296 > may have the same issues. > > Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 under construction > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > I have a 295 mounted in the panel of my -7A, and have no trouble reading it in bright sunlight. It is mounted high enough that the glareshield shades it. I have it just to the right of center in Vans prepunched panel and both of us can see it fine. I was not going to chime in, but had to let you know that you can read it if it is in the shade. No WX or terrain data though. Dan Hopper RV-7A N766DH (Flying -- 55 hours) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:19 AM PST US From: "Jeff Orear" Subject: Re: RV-List: 2 VS 3 BLADES CATTO --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" Wayne: It is a fixed pitch wood prop. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A N782P (reserved) firewall forward Peshtigo, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne R. Couture" Subject: Re: RV-List: 2 VS 3 BLADES CATTO > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne R. Couture" > > > Is the catto prop C/S or fixed pitched? > > Wayne > Do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruno" > To: "RV-LIST" > Subject: RV-List: 2 VS 3 BLADES CATTO > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Bruno >> >> Hello All >> >> For all interested, here's my 2 cents on the issue. >> >> I went from a Warnke wood prop ( Good prop by the way) to a 3 >> Bladded Catto Prop and I did not regret it ever. The smoothest and extra >> ground clearance ( 64 X 70 ) were plus in the decision to go this >> way. >> Not to mention the great look and good comments on how beautiful it looks >> whenever I go to a Fly-In. >> >> It's built very solid. I flew thru moderate rain at 120 Knots >> indicated and did not even shipped the paint off the tips. I wouldn't try >> that with a wood prop. >> >> Craig Catto was also very nice to do business with. >> >> E-mail me direct if you would like pictures of my RV-4's >> installation. >> >> Cheers >> >> Bruno Dionne >> rv4@videotron.ca >> C-GDBH RV-4 >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy From: "Larry Bowen" --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Ditto on the 196. I had the color 295 previously, but it had a big appetite for batteries, the screen was marginal in sunlight, and it was a little slow. The 196 has none of these issues and generally kicks butt, and I don't miss the color of the 295 at all. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com RVEIGHTA@aol.com said: > --> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com > > Doug, don't know anything about the Lowrance, but I have the Garmin 196 > and I > couldn't be happier! Before that I had the color Garmin 295 and it was > unreadable in bright sunlight, so I wouldn't recommend it and, the new > Garmin 296 > may have the same issues. > > Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 under construction > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy From: "Larry Bowen" --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Are your sunglasses polarized? Non-polarized might help the situation. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Alex Peterson said: > --> RV-List message posted by: Alex Peterson > > Doug, > > I just received an Anywhere Map with XM weather system, running on an IPAQ > 5500. I also agree that these systems will transform flying. I only have > a few hours experience with it, all in sunlight. It is quite readable, > but, with my dark sunglasses on, the IPAQ needs to also be in the sun for > me to see it. Without sunglasses, it is no problem. > > Alex Peterson > RV6A 528 hours > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Rozendaal > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" > > Doug, > > On board WX may be a factor to consider in your purchase. I did a demo on > WX worx weather for an article for IFR magazine. This is a big deal! It > is > real, it works, and in a few years it will be nearly as common as GPS and > everybit as useful. > > I went to OSH to buy a system to display WX weather. I came home > confused. > After that, I tried an Ipaq that belonged to a friend, with anywhere map > and > WX Worx weather. I thought it would be great in the RV, but I was very > disappointed. the screen was hard to read, I don't think a mounted Ipaq > would work, because I had to tilt it to deal with glare. > > The anywheremap software may work ok, but when you put the wx on the map, > it > overloads the processor. > > I tried a fujitsu p-600 with an ADR screen upgrade, and it is really cool, > but it is a $4000 600mhz out of date tablet pc. > > Being true to my Dutch heritage, I just bought a fujitsu p600f on ebay for > $600 to display WX worx. I made a little box with the reciever, USB hub > to > split the GPS/wx data, the power supply for the tablet pc. > > The 600F has a transflective display. if you move it around, it is always > readable, the processor is slow but acceptable, the WXworx software works > really well, but it seems to be a processor hog. The recommend a 1gig > machine and the fujitsu is 600mhz. > > The WX worx software with a GPS doesn't replace a handheld GPS, it just > tells you speed and heading and that is all. Other companies have and are > creating software to run on the PC platform, and I may upgrade, but I will > still have a battery powered handheld GPS onboard anytime I am IFR. ( I > just bought a lowrance airmap 500 and I love it!) I have flown with the > 196 > and 296 and they are both great units, I like the small size of the 500 > and > the fact that it runs over 10hrs on 2 AA bats. > > I have flown 3 trips with the fujistu, and I am really happy with it. It > is > like having the ADDS weather site in your cockpit. One thing about it, an > autopilot would be almost mandatory, because it captivates alot of > attention, but it is GREAT information! > > Tailwinds > Doug Rozendaal > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:13 AM PST US From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" I can vouch for the readability of the Garmin 296. I haven't flown with it yet so can't vouch for the aviation functionality. I bought a 196 and used if for a couple of road trips. I liked it so much I sold it and bought the 296. I have since used the 296 on a road trip and the display is definitely readable in all conditions. It even has the reverse display feature like some of the other Garmin products for night. I haven't had any other color GPS so I can't offer a direct comparison. I do have an iPaq 5000 series and I would say the 296 display is better in some conditions. Ken ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: RVEIGHTA@aol.com >--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com > >Doug, don't know anything about the Lowrance, but I have the Garmin 196 and I >couldn't be happier! Before that I had the color Garmin 295 and it was >unreadable in bright sunlight, so I wouldn't recommend it and, the new Garmin 296 >may have the same issues. > >Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 under construction > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:13 AM PST US From: Alex Peterson Subject: Re: RV-List: On board WX was, Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: Alex Peterson Yes, but the rotational alignment is correct. Alex Peterson --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Are your sunglasses polarized? Non-polarized might help the situation. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:42 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins Hi, This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv It was a test to make sure that nuclear power plants are safe from planes crashing into them. Something to send to people that still think we need restricted zones over nuclear power plants. Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:13 AM PST US From: Kathleen@rv7.us Subject: RE: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us Seeing that this subject needs one more voice :-), I have been flying with a Garmin 295 in my Tomahawk and a 296 in the Mooney. I also have an IPAQ. I find them all adequately readable. The 296 screen is more reflective than the others, but it is very bright. I do have a reliability problem with the IPAQ in that it is sensitive to voltage and can reboot on it's own. If I had to pick one, it would be the 296 by a small margin. I'd like to have the additional features of the IPAQ in one unit, but it is better for me to use two units and not switch so much between functions. I favor the Garmin units because I put reliability first. Kathleen Evans www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Simmons Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" I can vouch for the readability of the Garmin 296. I haven't flown with it yet so can't vouch for the aviation functionality. I bought a 196 and used if for a couple of road trips. I liked it so much I sold it and bought the 296. I have since used the 296 on a road trip and the display is definitely readable in all conditions. It even has the reverse display feature like some of the other Garmin products for night. I haven't had any other color GPS so I can't offer a direct comparison. I do have an iPaq 5000 series and I would say the 296 display is better in some conditions. Ken ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: RVEIGHTA@aol.com >--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com > >Doug, don't know anything about the Lowrance, but I have the Garmin 196 and I >couldn't be happier! Before that I had the color Garmin 295 and it was >unreadable in bright sunlight, so I wouldn't recommend it and, the new Garmin 296 >may have the same issues. > >Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 under construction > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:20 AM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan dmedema@att.net wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net > > Hi listers, > > I don't want to start an argument, but I need some advice on which > GPS to buy. I've had the plane flying since last November and I want > to buy a GPS real soon! > > I designed my panel thinking I would put in a HP iPAQ running > Anywhere Map. Since then, I've watched some nice GPS come out like > the Garmin 296 (won't fit), the Lawrence 2000C (I was really > interested in this but it won't fit either), and the Garmin 96C. The > 96C will fit but it has a pretty small screen. All things > considered, I think I'm going with Anywhere Map. > > This brings up the question of which PDA. Control Vision recommends > two different iPAQs, but I'm intrigued by the Dell Axim X30. The > screen is a bit smaller (3.5" vs 3.8" diagonal), but the speed is > quite a bit higher. Control Vision sells a package for the Axim > which includes a Compact Flash mount GPS, some cables, and the > Anywhere Map software. However, the X30 doesn't have a CF slot and I > really don't like the idea of a flash card mount GPS anyway given I > want to mount the PDA under my Dynon. Does anyone know what my > options are for a GPS with the X30? Is anyone using an Axim with > Anywhere Map? If so, how do you like it? Doug, I have been using AWM with a 3765 for nearly three years. The AWM software/iPAG is a good option with many unique features for the pilot that is comfortable with using a computer in the cabin. I recently purchased a Dell X30 and think it represents a very good value and am pleased with it. The old 3765 was retired to full-time service in the RV-6 since the battery had just about expired. It stays powered up continuously on the aircraft battery so the software won't get dumped. Even though the X30 isn't being used for AWM, I use it on the car with Street Atlas and a Radio Shack DigiTraveler GPS. You can get a GPS cable for the X30 here: http://pc-mobile.net/ax3.htm I got the PX3GSP version so the X30 could be powered by the car battery cable. I use the Garmin GPS35 in the RV-6 which is a fantastic receiver. However, you probably want to check out the newer Garmin GPS18 PC which should perform as well at a lower price: http://www.gpscity.com/gps/brados/2452.1.9335267956618175890/template.html I recommend you hard wire some connections to the avionics bus so you can eliminate some of the cords and connections. The GPS will work fine on 12vdc but you need to be aware the X30 needs 5vdc so don't wire it directly to the bus!! You can either whip up a little power converter or hack the car cord. Since you are an engineer I suspect you can figure all this out...... ;-) You will find the X30/GarminGPS combo to be a robust rig with a ton of features that is continuously upgradeable. Now, having said all that, I am considering replacing both the 3765 and Lowrance 100 in the RV-6 with Lowrance's really cool Airmap 1000. The display on this thing is BIG and that is good for my increasingly hyperopic eyes. :-) Those who are considering one of the Lowrance units can download a simulator to run on a PC so you can play with the features: http://www.lowrance.com/Software/PCSoftware/demos.asp Sam Buchanan http://thervjournal.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:52 AM PST US From: "Bob 1" Subject: Re: RV-List: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" > --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke > > Jeff; > > I have a 150 hp RV-6A and use the Sensenich 70CM prop sold through Van's > (the max 2600 rpm one). I do not have a lot of other RV-6 experience to > compare it to but am pleased with the noise, vibration and general > smoothness level - IOW, I consider them at the low end of other light > aircraft I have flown/flown in. I do run a (wood) Pacesetter 200 on my RV-3 > and it is a lot rougher. > > Apart from the 2 vs 3 blade issue, I feel the mass and stiffness of the prop > are what makes for a lot smoother operation. Performance is good too, BTW. > > I am quite satisfied with my 0-320, Sensenich fixed pitch set-up. > > Jim Oke > RV-6A > Wpg, MB +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IMO.... What most folks don't consider about wood props is LACK of FLYWHEEL MASS while spinning their Lycomings. I have owned and run both the wood Pacesetter 200 and Sensenich 70CM props on my RV-3. The wood prop can be just as smooth and vibrationless as the 70CM.... if you ADD FLYWHEEL MASS. In my case, I use 12 lbs of weight added to the flywheel in combination with my Pacesetter 200 prop (not to be confused with the high priced harmonic damper manufactured by the same source). The additional weight combined with the wood prop, smoothes out the engine power pulses to where they are a non issue for me. The power pulses coursing through the airframe use to drive me absolutely bonkers. The mass also allows the idle to be lower and smoother.... adding to brake life when taxiing and shorting landings. P.S. If I'm wrong, don't confuse me with facts. Let me enjoy the illusion. Bob Do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:44:37 PM PST US From: Aircraft Spruce Subject: RV-List: KLX-135A --> RV-List message posted by: Aircraft Spruce Jim Irwins President of Aircraft Spruce has asked me to post this for him. Thank You... I noticed your posting to the RV Group on Aircraft Spruce's price being higher than others on the KLX-135A, and you were absolutely correct. We had the incorrect price on our web-site, and it has been corrected from $2729 to $2475 which is quite competitive. We asked Honeywell how Great Lakes could offer it at $2195 (below our cost) and their only guess was that they must be trying to move out old stock since they have not purchased any in several years. Regards, Jim Irwin President, Aircraft Spruce __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:36 PM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: RE: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >Hi, > >This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv > >It was a test to make sure that nuclear power plants are >safe from planes crashing into them. Something to send >to people that still think we need restricted zones over >nuclear power plants. > >Mickey Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine worked on exactly the same project at Sandia National Labs here in Albuquerque. Told me the largest piece after the test was no larger than a dollar bill. It just vaporized. Used solid rocket fuel to provide the motivation down the rail. Brought a piece of it home and lit it off in the backyard. WOW....impressive stuff! Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51 do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:09 PM PST US From: Kysh Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh As Brian Denk was saying: > >This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv > > Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine Better than using them as drones, which is what we're doing now. :< Guess it's better than letting them rot in a museum somewhere... I suppose... sigh. -Kysh do not archive -- | 'Life begins at 120kias' - http://www.lapdragon.org/flying | | CBR-F4 streetbike - http://www.lapdragon.org/cbr | | 1968 Mustang fastback - http://www.lapdragon.org/mustang | | Got 'nix? - http://www.infrastructure.org/ | | KG6FOB - http://www.lapdragon.org/ham | | Give blood: Play Hockey! http://www.unixdragon.com/ | ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:25 PM PST US From: "John" Subject: RV-List: Flightline Interiors Work 0.00 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From: contains numbers mixed in with letters --> RV-List message posted by: "John" I just received my Oregon Aero seats for my RV6A that I sent to Abby Erdmann at Flightline Interiors. I can't say enough about how pleased I am with her work. It is FIRST CLASS. She finished them soon than promised, and the work is flawless. Thank you, Abby, for a job well done !! John at Salida, CO ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:48 PM PST US From: "Nauga" Subject: RV-List: VRML Model of an RV? --> RV-List message posted by: "Nauga" Anyone know where I can find a VRML model of an RV? RV-4 would be nice, but I'm not choosy. Thanks, Dave Hyde nauga@brick.net RV-4 in flight test ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:42 PM PST US From: RV8ter@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Flightline Interiors Work --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com In a message dated 9/30/2004 7:45:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, n1cxo320@salidaco.com writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "John" I just received my Oregon Aero seats for my RV6A that I sent to Abby Erdmann at Flightline Interiors. I can't say enough about how pleased I am with her work. It is FIRST CLASS. She finished them soon than promised, and the work is flawless. Thank you, Abby, for a job well done !! John at Salida, CO Thanks for the report. What's the difference between her seat cushions and the Oregon Aero? ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:25 PM PST US From: "Tom Gummo" Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" It clearly shows why the flight surgeons told us, "If you have to crash, do so over 350 Knots. Because by the time your nerves want to display pain, you won't be there to get the message." Why yes, fighter pilot humor is very black. :-) Tom "GummiBear" Gummo Wild Weasel #1753 F-4G Instructor Pilot - USAF Major - Retired http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html N561FS - 220 hours and still loving it. Apple Valley, CA Harmon Rocket-II ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kysh" Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video > --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh > > As Brian Denk was saying: >> >This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv >> >> Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine > > Better than using them as drones, which is what we're doing now. :< > > Guess it's better than letting them rot in a museum somewhere... I > suppose... > sigh. > > -Kysh > do not archive > -- > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:52 PM PST US From: "John" Subject: Re: RV-List: Flightline Interiors Work --> RV-List message posted by: "John" The difference is in the upholstery...Abby upholstered the Oregon Aero cushions for me...$350 for two seats. Oregon Aero wanted $375 EACH...a big difference. Abby also sells her own seat cushions which I didn't know. John ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:54 PM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: RV-List: Builders of the Quickbuilds --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" Are these the folks building the quickbuilds? Hard to figure out if they're now offering custom build services to us now or not. Not the greatest website (check out the mission statement...!) but shows some interesting jigs in use. www.bonanzametalcrafters.com. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:54 PM PST US From: "DejaVu" Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy --> RV-List message posted by: "DejaVu" Haven't heard much on readability at night. I have a Garmin 196 in my -6. My only complain is it is much too bright at the lowest setting at night. I even tried to put a sheet of cling-on plastic of the darkest shade and was still too bright to my taste. My hangar mate has a 295. His cockpit glows during night flights. Anh Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" > > I can vouch for the readability of the Garmin 296. I haven't flown with it yet so can't vouch for the aviation functionality. I bought a 196 and used if for a couple of road trips. I liked it so much I sold it and bought the 296. I have since used the 296 on a road trip and the display is definitely readable in all conditions. It even has the reverse display feature like some of the other Garmin products for night. I haven't had any other color GPS so I can't offer a direct comparison. I do have an iPaq 5000 series and I would say the 296 display is better in some conditions. > > Ken > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: RVEIGHTA@aol.com > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:02:31 EDT > > >--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com > > > >Doug, don't know anything about the Lowrance, but I have the Garmin 196 and I > >couldn't be happier! Before that I had the color Garmin 295 and it was > >unreadable in bright sunlight, so I wouldn't recommend it and, the new Garmin 296 > >may have the same issues. > > > >Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 under construction > > > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > --- > > --- ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 10:30:58 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: Builders of the Quickbuilds --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" Unfortunately, I see in the "OUR MISSION" section that hearing protection is not part of the mission. At least some of the photos show some people wearing earplugs...when squeezing rivets or clecoing...hm... At least in the "OUR VISION" section the guy is wearing eye protection. ;-) do not archive )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (slow built) http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Denk" Subject: RV-List: Builders of the Quickbuilds > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" > > Are these the folks building the quickbuilds? Hard to figure out if they're > now offering custom build services to us now or not. Not the greatest > website (check out the mission statement...!) but shows some interesting > jigs in use. > > www.bonanzametalcrafters.com. > > > Brian Denk > RV8 N94BD > RV10 '51 > >