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1. 03:19 AM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (RV8ter@aol.com)
2. 04:06 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Jerry Calvert)
3. 04:50 AM - Re: VRML Model of an RV? (Marcel Bourgon)
4. 07:04 AM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers)
5. 07:05 AM - Re: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade (Jim Oke)
6. 07:36 AM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (RV_8 Pilot)
7. 07:40 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy - dimming the 196 (RV_8 Pilot)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy - dimming the 196 (Terry Watson)
9. 09:39 AM - Re: Which GPS should I buy - dimming the 196 (Charles Rowbotham)
10. 10:55 AM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (David Fenstermacher)
11. 11:15 AM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
12. 11:28 AM - Re: Builders of the Quickbuilds (Mickey Coggins)
13. 11:48 AM - Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video (Scott Bilinski)
14. 01:43 PM - Re: Builders of the Quickbuilds (flmike)
15. 01:58 PM - Re: Builders of the Quickbuilds (Stan Jones)
16. 03:12 PM - Selling my RV - followup (Paul Lein)
17. 04:33 PM - Re: Which GPS should I buy (Donald Mei)
18. 06:26 PM - (David Fenstermacher)
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
Yikes, one more reason why piloting a rotor craft is scarier to me! ;-)
In a message dated 9/30/2004 9:50:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
T.gummo@verizon.net writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
It clearly shows why the flight surgeons told us, "If you have to crash, do
so over 350 Knots. Because by the time your nerves want to display pain,
you won't be there to get the message."
Why yes, fighter pilot humor is very black. :-)
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1753
F-4G Instructor Pilot - USAF Major - Retired
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
N561FS - 220 hours and still loving it.
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kysh" <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
>
> As Brian Denk was saying:
>> >This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv
>>
>> Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine
>
> Better than using them as drones, which is what we're doing now. :<
>
> Guess it's better than letting them rot in a museum somewhere... I
> suppose...
> sigh.
>
> -Kysh
> do not archive
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which GPS should I buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
I have a panel mounted 295 in my -6 angled slightly towards the pilot
daytime viewing has been great. The brightness and contrast are adjustable
to tame down the brightness if needed at night
Jerry Calvert
Edmond Ok
N296JC.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DejaVu" <wvu@mail.ameritel.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@mail.ameritel.net>
>
> Haven't heard much on readability at night. I have a Garmin 196 in my -6.
> My only complain is it is much too bright at the lowest setting at night.
I
> even tried to put a sheet of cling-on plastic of the darkest shade and
was
> still too bright to my taste. My hangar mate has a 295. His cockpit
glows
> during night flights.
> Anh
> Maryland
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
> >
> > I can vouch for the readability of the Garmin 296. I haven't flown with
it
> yet so can't vouch for the aviation functionality. I bought a 196 and used
> if for a couple of road trips. I liked it so much I sold it and bought the
> 296. I have since used the 296 on a road trip and the display is
definitely
> readable in all conditions. It even has the reverse display feature like
> some of the other Garmin products for night. I haven't had any other color
> GPS so I can't offer a direct comparison. I do have an iPaq 5000 series
and
> I would say the 296 display is better in some conditions.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
> > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:02:31 EDT
> >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
> > >
> > >Doug, don't know anything about the Lowrance, but I have the Garmin 196
> and I
> > >couldn't be happier! Before that I had the color Garmin 295 and it was
> > >unreadable in bright sunlight, so I wouldn't recommend it and, the new
> Garmin 296
> > >may have the same issues.
> > >
> > >Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 under construction
> > >
> > >DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VRML Model of an RV? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Marcel Bourgon <mbourgon@elp.rr.com>
Nauga wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Nauga" <nauga@brick.net>
>
>Anyone know where I can find a VRML model of an RV?
>RV-4 would be nice, but I'm not choosy.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave Hyde
>nauga@brick.net
>RV-4 in flight test
>
>
>
>
I am building a RV-9A and wanted a model as a incentive. I bought a
perfect wood model from Griffin Aerospace models. They will paint it
the way your finished product should look or send it to you primered.
1-817-624-2320
1-866-584-0260
aeromodel@aol.com
fred griffing
good luck
marcel in El paso
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video |
| From: | "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne@engravers.net> |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers" <wayne@engravers.net>
Mickey,
I would have to disagree with you on that statement about the safety of
nuclear power plants because that test shown. That video clip proves only
how that plane can be totally flattened. NOT the survivability of anything
on the other side of that wall.
I would like to see how it would stand up against a fully loaded Jumbo Jet
to feel safer. And I would like to see the aftermath pictures to show how
far it did penetrate into that concrete.
Restricted zones are just a publicity stunt only. They are so small that
anyone with the slowest of planes could get to the center of them before
anything could be done about it. Then, if they could shot it down, would
they right over the intended target?
Wayne
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv
>>
>> It was a test to make sure that nuclear power plants are
>> safe from planes crashing into them. Something to send
>> to people that still think we need restricted zones over
>> nuclear power plants.
>>
>> Mickey
>
> Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine
> worked on exactly the same project at Sandia National Labs here in
> Albuquerque. Told me the largest piece after the test was no larger
> than a
> dollar bill. It just vaporized. Used solid rocket fuel to provide the
> motivation down the rail. Brought a piece of it home and lit it off in
> the
> backyard. WOW....impressive stuff!
>
> Brian Denk
> RV8 N94BD
> RV10 '51
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Hi Bob;
Yes, that's my assessment of why my -3 feels "rougher" than my -6A. How did
you implement your 12 lbs of mass too the flywheel solution? A steel plate
cut to shape or other? Any balance issues to avoid stressing the crankshaft
(which is designed to with stand out of balance props in any case...)
Jim Oke
Wpg, MB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
>>
>> Jeff;
>>
>> I have a 150 hp RV-6A and use the Sensenich 70CM prop sold through Van's
>> (the max 2600 rpm one). I do not have a lot of other RV-6 experience to
>> compare it to but am pleased with the noise, vibration and general
>> smoothness level - IOW, I consider them at the low end of other light
>> aircraft I have flown/flown in. I do run a (wood) Pacesetter 200 on my
> RV-3
>> and it is a lot rougher.
>>
>> Apart from the 2 vs 3 blade issue, I feel the mass and stiffness of the
> prop
>> are what makes for a lot smoother operation. Performance is good too,
>> BTW.
>>
>> I am quite satisfied with my 0-320, Sensenich fixed pitch set-up.
>>
>> Jim Oke
>> RV-6A
>> Wpg, MB
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> IMO....
> What most folks don't consider about wood props is LACK of FLYWHEEL MASS
> while spinning their Lycomings. I have owned and run both the wood
> Pacesetter 200 and Sensenich 70CM props on my RV-3. The wood prop can be
> just as smooth and vibrationless as the 70CM.... if you ADD FLYWHEEL MASS.
> In my case, I use 12 lbs of weight added to the flywheel in combination
> with
> my Pacesetter 200 prop (not to be confused with the high priced harmonic
> damper manufactured by the same source). The additional weight combined
> with
> the wood prop, smoothes out the engine power pulses to where they are a
> non
> issue for me. The power pulses coursing through the airframe use to drive
> me
> absolutely bonkers. The mass also allows the idle to be lower and
> smoother.... adding to brake life when taxiing and shorting landings.
>
> P.S.
> If I'm wrong, don't confuse me with facts.
> Let me enjoy the illusion. <g>
>
> Bob
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
I'm an engineer and have seen first-hand the construction of 70's era
nuclear power plants. It's my opinion the containment structures could
easily take anything from the air except a large military type HE bomb.
These containment structures (that I'm familiar with) are around 4' thick
with amazing amounts of steel reinforcement. The doors to the containments
are not open to straight-in access in order to prevent direct access by
projectiles. The structures and internals are designed and constructed to
withstand extreme seismic loading.
I could easily imagine an impact from the largest airliner not even
penetrating the containment, and more likely just inflicting superficial
damage.
You have to remember what area the energy/load would be distributed over.
The F-4 case is fair in my mind. It's a 60,000-lb or so aircraft impacting
over an area of something like 100-sq.ft. The 400,000-lb airliner would
impact over an area of at least 10 times greater. Not to mention, the
advantage of the geometry of the airplane versus the structure (wings
extending beyond the targeted area).
IMO, Civil aviation poses about as much threat to nuclear power plants as
migrating birds.
BTW - the (uranium) fuel is of little use to a terrorist as well. It's in
very hard and in relatively large pellet form, so it won't make a good
radiological (dirty) bomb. Totally unsuitable for nuclear explosion as well
- not nearly high enough enrichment.
Bryan
>Mickey,
>I would have to disagree with you on that statement about the safety of
>nuclear power plants because that test shown. That video clip proves only
>how that plane can be totally flattened. NOT the survivability of anything
>on the other side of that wall.
>I would like to see how it would stand up against a fully loaded Jumbo Jet
>to feel safer. And I would like to see the aftermath pictures to show how
>far it did penetrate into that concrete.
>Restricted zones are just a publicity stunt only. They are so small that
>anyone with the slowest of planes could get to the center of them before
>anything could be done about it. Then, if they could shot it down, would
>they right over the intended target?
>
>Wayne
>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv
> >>
> >> It was a test to make sure that nuclear power plants are
> >> safe from planes crashing into them. Something to send
> >> to people that still think we need restricted zones over
> >> nuclear power plants.
> >>
> >> Mickey
> >
> > Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine
> > worked on exactly the same project at Sandia National Labs here in
> > Albuquerque. Told me the largest piece after the test was no larger
> > than a
> > dollar bill. It just vaporized. Used solid rocket fuel to provide the
> > motivation down the rail. Brought a piece of it home and lit it off in
> > the
> > backyard. WOW....impressive stuff!
> >
> > Brian Denk
> > RV8 N94BD
> > RV10 '51
> >
> > do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which GPS should I buy - dimming the 196 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
I had the same issue with my 196. However, *you can* lower the brightness
from the two preset levels. I don't have it with me right now, but I seem
to remember it being done with the contrast adjusting display. As I recall,
instead of toggling left and right for contrast, toggle up and down and
you'll get less or more light. Not sure if this was how I did it, but it
can in fact be lowered.
Bryan
>Haven't heard much on readability at night. I have a Garmin 196 in my -6.
>My only complain is it is much too bright at the lowest setting at night.
>I
>even tried to put a sheet of cling-on plastic of the darkest shade and was
>still too bright to my taste. My hangar mate has a 295. His cockpit glows
>during night flights.
>Anh
>Maryland
>
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| Subject: | Which GPS should I buy - dimming the 196 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
This puzzles me. With my Garmin 196, I can touch the on-off button and then
dim the screen to virtually off by pushing on the bottom of the 4- way
button, just like the instructions say. The sides of the 4-way button
increase or decrease screen contrast.
Terry
>Haven't heard much on readability at night. I have a Garmin 196 in my -6.
>My only complain is it is much too bright at the lowest setting at night.
>I
>even tried to put a sheet of cling-on plastic of the darkest shade and was
>still too bright to my taste. My hangar mate has a 295. His cockpit glows
>during night flights.
>Anh
>Maryland
>
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| Subject: | Which GPS should I buy - dimming the 196 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Anh,
The 295 brightness and contrast is easily adjusted - Have your hanger mate
check his user manual.
Chuck
>From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Which GPS should I buy - dimming the 196
>Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 08:51:03 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>
>This puzzles me. With my Garmin 196, I can touch the on-off button and
>then
>dim the screen to virtually off by pushing on the bottom of the 4- way
>button, just like the instructions say. The sides of the 4-way button
>increase or decrease screen contrast.
>
>Terry
>
>
> >Haven't heard much on readability at night. I have a Garmin 196 in my
>-6.
> >My only complain is it is much too bright at the lowest setting at night.
> >I
> >even tried to put a sheet of cling-on plastic of the darkest shade and
>was
> >still too bright to my taste. My hangar mate has a 295. His cockpit
>glows
> >during night flights.
> >Anh
> >Maryland
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
I agree with Wayne. Try something that terrorists actually have access to.
I doubt they ever will be able to get an F4.
Check out
http://www.potomac-airfield.com/
It's located in the thick of things here is Washington DC's airspace.
I know the owner and MAN does he have a sense of humor. He's also quite
bright.
It is the best "food for thought" I have seen on the issues of
airspace/aircraft security.
I had to have the secret service and FAA give me the "super secret number"
to fly out of Potomac. (Interview with FAA and Secret Service -
fingerprinting/background check, etc.)
You call the FSS and give them your super secret number and they give you a
super secret transponder code back.
It's really quite painless. The question is.... Is it effective. In my
opinion there is just no effective way to guard against an airplane that
can take off in 300 feet. You could use ANY road you wanted and pop-up in
the middle of the action without giving the authorities enough time to
react. Just like packing the trunk of your Honda (you see the cops
stopping "panel trucks" all the time around here - they ain't looking for
Honda's) with gas/explosives/nuke/etc. How do you guard against this?
effectively without taking all our civil rights away.
So the question is - what to do. Well, they are trying to figure that out.
Sometimes pulling on the wrong parts. But they ARE trying.
No flames, please.
Dave
> [Original Message]
> From: Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers <wayne@engravers.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/1/2004 10:04:09 AM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers"
<wayne@engravers.net>
>
> Mickey,
> I would have to disagree with you on that statement about the safety of
> nuclear power plants because that test shown. That video clip proves only
> how that plane can be totally flattened. NOT the survivability of
anything
> on the other side of that wall.
> I would like to see how it would stand up against a fully loaded Jumbo
Jet
> to feel safer. And I would like to see the aftermath pictures to show how
> far it did penetrate into that concrete.
> Restricted zones are just a publicity stunt only. They are so small that
> anyone with the slowest of planes could get to the center of them before
> anything could be done about it. Then, if they could shot it down, would
> they right over the intended target?
>
> Wayne
>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv
> >>
> >> It was a test to make sure that nuclear power plants are
> >> safe from planes crashing into them. Something to send
> >> to people that still think we need restricted zones over
> >> nuclear power plants.
> >>
> >> Mickey
> >
> > Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine
> > worked on exactly the same project at Sandia National Labs here in
> > Albuquerque. Told me the largest piece after the test was no larger
> > than a
> > dollar bill. It just vaporized. Used solid rocket fuel to provide the
> > motivation down the rail. Brought a piece of it home and lit it off in
> > the
> > backyard. WOW....impressive stuff!
> >
> > Brian Denk
> > RV8 N94BD
> > RV10 '51
> >
> > do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 10/01/2004 8:37:46 AM Central Standard Time,
rv_8pilot@hotmail.com writes:
You have to remember what area the energy/load would be distributed over.
The F-4 case is fair in my mind. It's a 60,000-lb or so aircraft impacting
over an area of something like 100-sq.ft. The 400,000-lb airliner would
impact over an area of at least 10 times greater. Not to mention, the
advantage of the geometry of the airplane versus the structure (wings
extending beyond the targeted area).
Sure makes sense to me. Sadly, the world witnessed a graphic test of the
damage inflicted by large Boeings 3 years ago. I am definately no expert on
these matters, but the intial impact caused what appears to be little structural
damage to the buildings- the fire is what brought them down. A fully loaded
KC-10A might produce a fearsome fireball, but I doubt it could burn a hole in a
containment vessel. Seems the protectors of our security could use this as a
data point and spend our money for more productive things...
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Builders of the Quickbuilds |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
I think I recognized my RV8 fuselage in there!
I know I've said it before, but it's worth saying
again. I'm real impressed with the quality of my
QB. The way they installed the skins on the fuselage
is really top notch. Perfect overlapping seams everywhere.
If only they used better primer!
Mickey
>Are these the folks building the quickbuilds? Hard to figure out if they're
>now offering custom build services to us now or not. Not the greatest
>website (check out the mission statement...!) but shows some interesting
>jigs in use.
>
>www.bonanzametalcrafters.com.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
This terrorists stuff reminds me of a recent post from another E-mail list.
The one statement from that E-mail I will never forget.....
"Homeland security is proof that border security has failed."
do not archive
At 01:56 PM 10/1/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher"
><dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
>
>I agree with Wayne. Try something that terrorists actually have access to.
>I doubt they ever will be able to get an F4.
>Check out
>http://www.potomac-airfield.com/
>It's located in the thick of things here is Washington DC's airspace.
>I know the owner and MAN does he have a sense of humor. He's also quite
>bright.
>It is the best "food for thought" I have seen on the issues of
>airspace/aircraft security.
>I had to have the secret service and FAA give me the "super secret number"
>to fly out of Potomac. (Interview with FAA and Secret Service -
>fingerprinting/background check, etc.)
>You call the FSS and give them your super secret number and they give you a
>super secret transponder code back.
>It's really quite painless. The question is.... Is it effective. In my
>opinion there is just no effective way to guard against an airplane that
>can take off in 300 feet. You could use ANY road you wanted and pop-up in
>the middle of the action without giving the authorities enough time to
>react. Just like packing the trunk of your Honda (you see the cops
>stopping "panel trucks" all the time around here - they ain't looking for
>Honda's) with gas/explosives/nuke/etc. How do you guard against this?
>effectively without taking all our civil rights away.
>
>So the question is - what to do. Well, they are trying to figure that out.
>Sometimes pulling on the wrong parts. But they ARE trying.
>
>No flames, please.
>
>Dave
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers <wayne@engravers.net>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 10/1/2004 10:04:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic - F4 crashing into concrete wall - video
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Aircraft Engravers"
><wayne@engravers.net>
> >
> > Mickey,
> > I would have to disagree with you on that statement about the safety of
> > nuclear power plants because that test shown. That video clip proves only
>
> > how that plane can be totally flattened. NOT the survivability of
>anything
> > on the other side of that wall.
> > I would like to see how it would stand up against a fully loaded Jumbo
>Jet
> > to feel safer. And I would like to see the aftermath pictures to show how
>
> > far it did penetrate into that concrete.
> > Restricted zones are just a publicity stunt only. They are so small that
> > anyone with the slowest of planes could get to the center of them before
> > anything could be done about it. Then, if they could shot it down, would
> > they right over the intended target?
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> This is cool. http://69.93.149.132/files/concreteplane1.wmv
> > >>
> > >> It was a test to make sure that nuclear power plants are
> > >> safe from planes crashing into them. Something to send
> > >> to people that still think we need restricted zones over
> > >> nuclear power plants.
> > >>
> > >> Mickey
> > >
> > > Very cool! Sad end for a great airframe though. An old friend of mine
> > > worked on exactly the same project at Sandia National Labs here in
> > > Albuquerque. Told me the largest piece after the test was no larger
> > > than a
> > > dollar bill. It just vaporized. Used solid rocket fuel to provide the
> > > motivation down the rail. Brought a piece of it home and lit it off in
>
> > > the
> > > backyard. WOW....impressive stuff!
> > >
> > > Brian Denk
> > > RV8 N94BD
> > > RV10 '51
> > >
> > > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Builders of the Quickbuilds |
--> RV-List message posted by: flmike <flmike2001@yahoo.com>
I think I "might" see a set of plans in one of the
pictures. Maybe that explains the backwards bulkhead
in my friend's -8 QB along with a few other oops.
There should be appropriate drawings handy at every
workstation.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Builders of the Quickbuilds |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
We have a QB here in Queenstown, New Zealand, and I often refer to it and
wonder how they so neatly set some of the more difficult rivets, like the
ones I drill out several times, and in the end settle for something less
than I aimed for. By the time I had put together my 100th fuse. I would
expect my skills to have improved. But get a load of those poor buggers that
sit at that table, day after day,scrubbing and deburring. We all hate that
time consuming task, but to them I suppose a job is a job
Stan Jones.
-------Original Message-------
From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Builders of the Quickbuilds
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
I think I recognized my RV8 fuselage in there!
I know I've said it before, but it's worth saying
again. I'm real impressed with the quality of my
QB. The way they installed the skins on the fuselage
is really top notch. Perfect overlapping seams everywhere.
If only they used better primer!
Mickey
>Are these the folks building the quickbuilds? Hard to figure out if they're
>now offering custom build services to us now or not. Not the greatest
>website (check out the mission statement...!) but shows some interesting
>jigs in use.
>
>www.bonanzametalcrafters.com.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| Subject: | Selling my RV - followup |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Lein <pj115@journey.com>
Hello all,
Thanks for the good advice on and off the list. I've got a spec sheet
with photographs now that I'll be happy to email to any interested
parties. I'm awaiting answers from a couple people that are helping me
with fair market price, so I should have a target price in the next day
or two. Thanks again.
Paul
Paul Lein
1555 South Brinton Road
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858-9628
Tel. 989 644-2451
Fax 989 644-6098
pj115@journey.com
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| Subject: | Re: Which GPS should I buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
I recently replaced my garmin 195 after 4 yrs of service. I chose a Garmin
296 over the large Lowrance airmap and the anywhere map for the following
reasons:
1) Lowrance is FANTASTIC, but it was too large to work in an RV-4 cockpit.
I didn't want to strap it to my leg as I commonly have a kneeboard strapped
to my leg during cross country flights. If I owned a 6, 7, 9, or maybe even
an 8, I'd definitely have looked harder at it. At 999 its a steal.
2) I flew from Seatle to CT with Anywhere Map. I was very impressed with
the software, but was very disappointed with its implementation on Windows
handhelds. It rebooted 2 times during the 3 day trip. This is an
incredible piece of software looking for a dedicated piece of hardware to
run on.
3) I knew 296 would work as advertised. It was the right size for the
inside of my cockpit. It fit below my Dynon on my panel.
Thoughts on the 296 now that I've owned it.
1) Display is great in bright sunlight. It is backlit, but is also very
reflective so it works OK even without the backlight.
2) Battery really honestly lasts for 12 or so hours. I was pleasantly
surprised.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
Don't usually do this sort of thing (post about companies). But....
Check out www.clearairtools.com
I got a CP-214C remanufactured squeezer for 290 bucks (with a yoke). I had a leak
in the swivel and he is sending me another before I send the one I have back
(no downtime).
The owner is building a 6A, so he is sensitive to this sort of thing.
When I mentioned that I could provide a receipt, he wasn't worried. He just wanted
to make it right.
I would recommend.
Dave
blah, blah, blah - not affiliated.
David Fenstermacher
dfenstermacher@earthlink.net
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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