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1. 02:23 AM - Re: Wt of aluminum correction and a point on shuttle SRB vs Rutan en... (RV8ter@aol.com)
2. 05:27 AM - Land of Enchantment and Solid Rockets (Alex Peterson)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: Rapco Brake Disks ( Rotors ) (Mike Mckenna)
4. 06:44 AM - I disagree, as usual ;{) (Wheeler North)
5. 06:55 AM - Re: Land of Enchantment and Solid Rockets (UFOBUCK@aol.com)
6. 07:24 AM - Re: camera in the tail (Bluecavu@aol.com)
7. 08:21 AM - Re: I disagree, as usual ;{) (Jim Thorne)
8. 08:49 AM - Re: I disagree, as usual ;{) (Scott Bilinski)
9. 09:33 AM - Re: I disagree, as usual ;{) (Mike Robertson)
10. 11:12 AM - Re: camera in the tail (Larry Bowen)
11. 11:18 AM - Re: camera in the tail (SportAV8R@aol.com)
12. 11:50 AM - Re: Wt of aluminum correction and a point on shuttle SRB vs Rutan en... (Scott Jackson)
13. 12:36 PM - New Pitot Tube (Evan and Megan Johnson)
14. 01:41 PM - Re: New Pitot Tube (Kathleen@rv7.us)
15. 02:47 PM - Re: Follow up to posting about KLX-135A (Ken Simmons)
16. 02:49 PM - Re: camera in the tail (Matt Johnson)
17. 03:01 PM - Re: Rapco Brake Disks ( Rotors ) (Denis Walsh)
18. 03:11 PM - Re: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade (Bob 1)
19. 04:46 PM - Re: Follow up to posting about KLX-135A ()
20. 04:53 PM - Re: New Pitot Tube (Evan and Megan Johnson)
21. 05:09 PM - tail number (Cammie Patch)
22. 06:44 PM - Radio Range (Larry Bowen)
23. 06:45 PM - Re: tail number (David Burton)
24. 06:53 PM - Re: tail number (Danny Lawhon)
25. 06:59 PM - Re: tail number (Ed Anderson)
26. 07:01 PM - Re: tail number (Jerry Springer)
27. 07:01 PM - Re: tail number (rv6tc)
28. 07:39 PM - Re: Radio Range (thomas a. sargent)
29. 07:52 PM - Hann WigWag (Larry Bowen)
30. 08:08 PM - Re: Hann WigWag (Jerry Springer)
31. 08:17 PM - Re: Hann WigWag (Bill VonDane)
32. 08:23 PM - Re: Radio Range (steve zicree)
33. 08:28 PM - Re: Hann WigWag (Larry Bowen)
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| Subject: | Re: Wt of aluminum correction and a point on shuttle SRB vs Rutan |
en...
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
Hell no they can't be shut down. When the Solid Rockets are ignited the
shuttle is going to go somewhere. There's no shutting them off. What the
Eastern Test Range Safety officers do is watch the actual vs projected course
and
when it's outside a pre-determined parameters they send a command to a set
of explosives at the top off the solids to "blow the tops off" of them so
that now the pressure is relieved at both ends. Hopefully they now just
pinwheeel into the ocean (which is also always cleared out of traffice around
the
launch window).
That's why the liquid engines are always ignited first and evaluated in the
first seconds prior to the solids being ignited. The mains can be turned
back off. NOT the solids. Ever - as used on the shuttle.
lucky
In a message dated 10/7/2004 9:58:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lwalters2@cfl.rr.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 10/7/04 10:18:33 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
>don_mei@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
>
>>HUUUUUGGGEEEE difference between the Rutan hybrid rocket and the shuttle
>>SRBs. Shuttle SRBs have the oxidizer mixed right in. I.e. like a bottle
>>rocket. Once it is lit there is NO WAY it can be throttled or even shut
>>down.
>>
>>
>>
>
>I'm no rocket scientist, but I remember reading that the Shuttle boosters
can
>be shut down. I believe this is done by setting off an explosion which
>basically blows the fire out. Is this correct?
>
Well, I'm no rocket scientist either, nor do I play one on TV .......
and I slept at home last night ..... :-) but I find that hard to
believe for a few reasons. The solid fuel contains it's own oxidizer so
removing the oxygen necessary for combustion won't work, and if there
were to be an explosion, I think it would compromise the integrity of
the booster. Just a few quick thoughts.
Linn
do not archive
>Dan Hopper
>RV-7A
>N766DH (Flying about 58 hours now.)
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Land of Enchantment and Solid Rockets |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
Another fun fact on the SRB's is that when firing, they have an internal
pressure of around 800 psi. Not bad considering that they have a big
hole in one end.
BTW, we have a group of about 7 RV's that are planning to gaggle up and
fly down to Land of Enchantment, leaving Minneapolis Thursday morning.
A couple stragglers are leaving Friday, also. Can we pick up any more
on the way through? General route is Minneapolis, eastern NE (fuel in
maybe York NE), central KS, northern TX (fuel Hutchinson Cty TX), LRU.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A 530 hours
Maple Grove, MN
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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| Subject: | Rapco Brake Disks ( Rotors ) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Mckenna" <mmckenna@bellsouth.net>
Chuck,
Check with Grove Aircraft http://www.groveaircraft.com/wbproducts.html .
I understand there parts are interchangeable and from what I have seen
much better quality than Cleveland.
Mike Mckenna
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charles
Rowbotham
Subject: RV-List: Rapco Brake Disks ( Rotors )
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Does anyone have any experience or comments on Rapco brake disks (rotors)
compared to Cleveland brake disks. These would be used on Cleveland disk
brake assemblies. Both company's disks referance the same part number. Cost
difference is Rapco - $72 and Cleveland $106 from ACS. Also anyone know of
another source of Cleveland disks at a lower cost?
Thanks,
Chuck Rowbotham
RV-8A
http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | I disagree, as usual ;{) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
To the contrare oh great one (and that is said with genuine sincerity) there
is no requirement in any part of CFR14 or in any advisory circular or order
that requires a logbook entry for any maintinance on any aircraft.
They only require that a maintenance record be made and kept, usually for a
year, in most cases. That record can be kept on your hand if that will last
a year. A number of folks use a white board in their hangar for general
stuff and a logbook for more permanent maintenance such as major repairs or
alterations.
43.9 and 43.11 give good examples of what an entry should look like and what
must be in them. That said Part 43 is specifically exempted from
experimentals, and contrary to what many including the FAA may say, an FAA
order does not supercede CFR 14, or any part of it. But your airworthiness
certificate is issued based upon an order and a vague compliance with this
Part and Part 91.
That said, I'm guessing there have not been too many enforcements based upon
maintenance record errors or omissions for experimentals because of this
conflict and vagueness. If I were an FAA Inspector I would be very nervous
expending limited resources in this venue, particularly against a
potentially noisy advesary such as the EAA. Its much easier/more productive
to go for an operations violation and enforce to your heart's content given
the suspect really is in need of a tune-up.
The only reason I point this out is, keep your records for yourself, and
your failing memory, not because of some vague ill understood ruling. Be
concise, but state what, when, and who did the maintenance, and remember
that these records can be used in any lawsuit, which in my opinion is a
prime motivator for them to not be so permanent.
W
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| Subject: | Re: Land of Enchantment and Solid Rockets |
--> RV-List message posted by: UFOBUCK@aol.com
Alex-
Think your TX fuel stop is in Borger, Texas, Hutchinson County Airport.
Good stop. If you continued on another 40 mi. to Amarillo Tx International or Amarillo
Tradewind airport you would have to mortgage the airplanes to pay for
the fuel.
BClary
RV-6A xowner
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| Subject: | Re: camera in the tail |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com
Great N# Mr. BOWN !!! oops! Bowen.
very cool
Scott
N4ZW
150 RV-4
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: I disagree, as usual ;{) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Thorne" <rv7a@cox.net>
I agree with Wheeler. I once reported to the General Counsel of a major
airline. He cautionary advice, paraphrased, was "Nothing in the files will
ever help you and in the event of a problem it will only help your
adversary.
J. Thorne
RV7A QB
CHD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wheeler North" <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Subject: RV-List: I disagree, as usual ;{)
> --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
> To the contrare oh great one (and that is said with genuine sincerity)
> there
> is no requirement in any part of CFR14 or in any advisory circular or
> order
> that requires a logbook entry for any maintinance on any aircraft.
>
> They only require that a maintenance record be made and kept, usually for
> a
> year, in most cases. That record can be kept on your hand if that will
> last
> a year. A number of folks use a white board in their hangar for general
> stuff and a logbook for more permanent maintenance such as major repairs
> or
> alterations.
>
> 43.9 and 43.11 give good examples of what an entry should look like and
> what
> must be in them. That said Part 43 is specifically exempted from
> experimentals, and contrary to what many including the FAA may say, an FAA
> order does not supercede CFR 14, or any part of it. But your airworthiness
> certificate is issued based upon an order and a vague compliance with this
> Part and Part 91.
>
> That said, I'm guessing there have not been too many enforcements based
> upon
> maintenance record errors or omissions for experimentals because of this
> conflict and vagueness. If I were an FAA Inspector I would be very nervous
> expending limited resources in this venue, particularly against a
> potentially noisy advesary such as the EAA. Its much easier/more
> productive
> to go for an operations violation and enforce to your heart's content
> given
> the suspect really is in need of a tune-up.
>
> The only reason I point this out is, keep your records for yourself, and
> your failing memory, not because of some vague ill understood ruling. Be
> concise, but state what, when, and who did the maintenance, and remember
> that these records can be used in any lawsuit, which in my opinion is a
> prime motivator for them to not be so permanent.
>
> W
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I disagree, as usual ;{) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Hmmm, sounds like a need for two aircraft logs........Did I say that out loud!!
At 08:19 AM 10/8/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Thorne" <rv7a@cox.net>
>
>I agree with Wheeler. I once reported to the General Counsel of a major
>airline. He cautionary advice, paraphrased, was "Nothing in the files will
>ever help you and in the event of a problem it will only help your
>adversary.
>
>J. Thorne
>RV7A QB
>CHD
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wheeler North" <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: I disagree, as usual ;{)
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
> >
> > To the contrare oh great one (and that is said with genuine sincerity)
> > there
> > is no requirement in any part of CFR14 or in any advisory circular or
> > order
> > that requires a logbook entry for any maintinance on any aircraft.
> >
> > They only require that a maintenance record be made and kept, usually for
> > a
> > year, in most cases. That record can be kept on your hand if that will
> > last
> > a year. A number of folks use a white board in their hangar for general
> > stuff and a logbook for more permanent maintenance such as major repairs
> > or
> > alterations.
> >
> > 43.9 and 43.11 give good examples of what an entry should look like and
> > what
> > must be in them. That said Part 43 is specifically exempted from
> > experimentals, and contrary to what many including the FAA may say, an FAA
> > order does not supercede CFR 14, or any part of it. But your airworthiness
> > certificate is issued based upon an order and a vague compliance with this
> > Part and Part 91.
> >
> > That said, I'm guessing there have not been too many enforcements based
> > upon
> > maintenance record errors or omissions for experimentals because of this
> > conflict and vagueness. If I were an FAA Inspector I would be very nervous
> > expending limited resources in this venue, particularly against a
> > potentially noisy advesary such as the EAA. Its much easier/more
> > productive
> > to go for an operations violation and enforce to your heart's content
> > given
> > the suspect really is in need of a tune-up.
> >
> > The only reason I point this out is, keep your records for yourself, and
> > your failing memory, not because of some vague ill understood ruling. Be
> > concise, but state what, when, and who did the maintenance, and remember
> > that these records can be used in any lawsuit, which in my opinion is a
> > prime motivator for them to not be so permanent.
> >
> > W
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | I disagree, as usual ;{) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Wheeler,
You are entirely correct, but I think if you look back at my post you will
notice that I did not say in which format the entry will be made, just that
a log entry is necessary. It can be on toilet paper!! It is just that 91
says you will make a log entry in accordance with Part 43.
You are also right about the length of time to keep the entries. The reg
states one year or until superseded.
Mike Robertson
>From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: "'rv-list@matronics.com'" <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: I disagree, as usual ;{)
>Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 06:43:50 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
>To the contrare oh great one (and that is said with genuine sincerity)
>there
>is no requirement in any part of CFR14 or in any advisory circular or order
>that requires a logbook entry for any maintinance on any aircraft.
>
>They only require that a maintenance record be made and kept, usually for a
>year, in most cases. That record can be kept on your hand if that will last
>a year. A number of folks use a white board in their hangar for general
>stuff and a logbook for more permanent maintenance such as major repairs or
>alterations.
>
>43.9 and 43.11 give good examples of what an entry should look like and
>what
>must be in them. That said Part 43 is specifically exempted from
>experimentals, and contrary to what many including the FAA may say, an FAA
>order does not supercede CFR 14, or any part of it. But your airworthiness
>certificate is issued based upon an order and a vague compliance with this
>Part and Part 91.
>
>That said, I'm guessing there have not been too many enforcements based
>upon
>maintenance record errors or omissions for experimentals because of this
>conflict and vagueness. If I were an FAA Inspector I would be very nervous
>expending limited resources in this venue, particularly against a
>potentially noisy advesary such as the EAA. Its much easier/more productive
>to go for an operations violation and enforce to your heart's content given
>the suspect really is in need of a tune-up.
>
>The only reason I point this out is, keep your records for yourself, and
>your failing memory, not because of some vague ill understood ruling. Be
>concise, but state what, when, and who did the maintenance, and remember
>that these records can be used in any lawsuit, which in my opinion is a
>prime motivator for them to not be so permanent.
>
>W
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: camera in the tail |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
:) You win!!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Bluecavu@aol.com said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com
>
> Great N# Mr. BOWN !!! oops! Bowen.
>
> very cool
>
> Scott
> N4ZW
> 150 RV-4
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: camera in the tail |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
He stole the idea from me! (Yeah, like I was the first...)
Bill Boyd
N30YD
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
:) You win!!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Bluecavu@aol.com said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com
>
> Great N# Mr. BOWN !!! oops! Bowen.
>
> very cool
>
> Scott
> N4ZW
> 150 RV-4
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wt of aluminum correction and a point on shuttle SRB vs Rutan |
en...
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
Lucky:
Now's about the best time to tell the forum about the "twang" that the
shuttle does on the pad just before it lifts off....
Scott in VAncouver
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <RV8ter@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Wt of aluminum correction and a point on shuttle SRB
vs Rutan en...
> --> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
>
>
> Hell no they can't be shut down. When the Solid Rockets are ignited the
> shuttle is going to go somewhere. There's no shutting them off. What
> the
> Eastern Test Range Safety officers do is watch the actual vs projected
> course and
> when it's outside a pre-determined parameters they send a command to a
> set
> of explosives at the top off the solids to "blow the tops off" of them
> so
> that now the pressure is relieved at both ends. Hopefully they now just
> pinwheeel into the ocean (which is also always cleared out of traffice
> around the
> launch window).
>
> That's why the liquid engines are always ignited first and evaluated in
> the
> first seconds prior to the solids being ignited. The mains can be turned
> back off. NOT the solids. Ever - as used on the shuttle.
>
> lucky
>
>
> In a message dated 10/7/2004 9:58:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> lwalters2@cfl.rr.com writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>
> Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
>>
>>In a message dated 10/7/04 10:18:33 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
>>don_mei@hotmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>>HUUUUUGGGEEEE difference between the Rutan hybrid rocket and the shuttle
>>>SRBs. Shuttle SRBs have the oxidizer mixed right in. I.e. like a
>>>bottle
>
>>>rocket. Once it is lit there is NO WAY it can be throttled or even shut
>>>down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I'm no rocket scientist, but I remember reading that the Shuttle boosters
> can
>>be shut down. I believe this is done by setting off an explosion which
>>basically blows the fire out. Is this correct?
>>
> Well, I'm no rocket scientist either, nor do I play one on TV .......
> and I slept at home last night ..... :-) but I find that hard to
> believe for a few reasons. The solid fuel contains it's own oxidizer so
> removing the oxygen necessary for combustion won't work, and if there
> were to be an explosion, I think it would compromise the integrity of
> the booster. Just a few quick thoughts.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>>Dan Hopper
>>RV-7A
>>N766DH (Flying about 58 hours now.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Gentlemen (and ladies) I just started looking at my options for a pitot tube for
my RV10 project and am horrified with the results. I can either bend a piece
of aluminum per the plans (way too ugly for me) or seemingly spend a minimum
of around 300 bucks for a faired in non heated pitot with mount. The standard
AN 5812 is now up to $962.00 for certified and over $400 for non certified....without
a mount! Sooo, I need a show of hands. I am looking into casting a new
pitot tube in aluminum and I want to make sure there will be enough interest
in it to go forward. It will be a non heated version with a stainless 1/4" tube
running through it. The target sale price including a mount is around $200.00.
I need some feedback please, on or off list is fine with me.
Thanks a bunch......Evan Johnson
(530) 351-1776
www.evansaviationproducts.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
I bought 2 used AN 5812 heated pitots from the local aircraft recycler for
$5 each. I said I was NOT going to use them on aircraft. One was bent, the
other scratched. http://www.rv7.us/daily040908%20w.htm to see them. It
turns out that they both work fine. What I did wrong, was I failed to get
the phenolic connectors that were with them (not smart on my part). Do try
your local aircraft recycler, but say you want them for a science experiment
or demonstration project. They wanted $100 each if they were to be mounted
on an aircraft of any type....
BTW - I'm not encouraging you to lie, so adjust my suggestion to fit your
own moral balance. I justified it as a reasonable effort to protect myself
against rippoff. It worked for me :-)
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Evan and Megan
Johnson
Subject: RV-List: New Pitot Tube
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
<evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Gentlemen (and ladies) I just started looking at my options for a pitot tube
for my RV10 project and am horrified with the results. I can either bend a
piece of aluminum per the plans (way too ugly for me) or seemingly spend a
minimum of around 300 bucks for a faired in non heated pitot with mount. The
standard AN 5812 is now up to $962.00 for certified and over $400 for non
certified....without a mount! Sooo, I need a show of hands. I am looking
into casting a new pitot tube in aluminum and I want to make sure there will
be enough interest in it to go forward. It will be a non heated version with
a stainless 1/4" tube running through it. The target sale price including a
mount is around $200.00. I need some feedback please, on or off list is fine
with me.
Thanks a bunch......Evan Johnson
(530) 351-1776
www.evansaviationproducts.com
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up to posting about KLX-135A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
I've got some additional data on the business practices of Aircraft Spruce that
came to a head today. I had ordered a digital G meter from them while at Reno.
It was a new listing in their printed catalog. I got a notice that it was backordered.
It took two emails and two calls to get an estimated ship date. Then
I received a confusing email asking what country I wanted it shipped to. I called
them and found out that since this was a brand new item with no stock and
shipped from overseas, that I would have to pay an additional $50 fee. Isn't
that the point of companies like Aircraft Spruce, they maintain stock so the
manufacturer doesn't have to?
Now back to the drawing board on a g meter.
Ken
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: <sears@searnet.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
>
>
>> I would like all the subscribers to know that Jim Irwin , President of
>Aircraft Spruce > and Specialty, corrected the price on the KLX-135A and
>gave me a credit for the
>> difference. They have proven that customer is # 1 and they are #1 with
>me.
>> Mickey Martin RV 6
>>
>
>Good luck. Around here, the service hasn't been that good. I bought from
>them when I first started building Scooter way back in 1992 and quit buying
>from them, after a bit. Then, I started buying from them again around 1996
>after they assured me they had changed. Yeah, sure. I stopped again. I've
>found their service, pricing, shipping practices, etc. not up to par with
>the other companies I've bought from. Today, I use Wicks for most of my day
>to day stuff. I only use Aircraft Spruce as a last resort when I can't find
>an item somewhere else. Maybe the new location in Georgia will help. I got
>better service out of those folks than the ones out west. I must admit that
>I do like their catalog. I use it for ideas before buying from somebody
>else.
>
>Jim Sears in KY
>RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
>RV-7A #70317 (Building wings, fuse ordered)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: camera in the tail |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
That is really cool, I didnt notice that right away...
- Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: camera in the tail
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> :) You win!!
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Bluecavu@aol.com said:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com
> >
> > Great N# Mr. BOWN !!! oops! Bowen.
> >
> > very cool
> >
> > Scott
> > N4ZW
> > 150 RV-4
> >
> > do not archive
>
>
> ===
> ===
> ===
> ===
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rapco Brake Disks ( Rotors ) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net>
I have used Rapco for several items and have been universally pleased.
Better quality and lower price. My kind of products! The brake pads
even have a wear indicator notch which is an improvement over the
Cleveland, in my opinion.
I will go with the Rapco rotors, sight unseen, when I need them soon.
D Walsh
On Oct 8, 2004, at 7:10 AM, Mike Mckenna wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Mckenna" <mmckenna@bellsouth.net>
>
> Chuck,
>
> Check with Grove Aircraft
> http://www.groveaircraft.com/wbproducts.html .
> I understand there parts are interchangeable and from what I have seen
> much better quality than Cleveland.
>
> Mike Mckenna
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charles
> Rowbotham
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Rapco Brake Disks ( Rotors )
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
> <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>
> Does anyone have any experience or comments on Rapco brake disks
> (rotors)
> compared to Cleveland brake disks. These would be used on Cleveland
> disk
> brake assemblies. Both company's disks referance the same part number.
> Cost
> difference is Rapco - $72 and Cleveland $106 from ACS. Also anyone
> know of
> another source of Cleveland disks at a lower cost?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chuck Rowbotham
> RV-8A
>
> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Oke" <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Catto props...3 vs 2 blade
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
>
> Hi Bob;
>
> Yes, that's my assessment of why my -3 feels "rougher" than my -6A. How
did
> you implement your 12 lbs of mass too the flywheel solution? A steel plate
> cut to shape or other? Any balance issues to avoid stressing the
crankshaft
> (which is designed to with stand out of balance props in any case...)
>
> Jim Oke
> Wpg, MB
==================================
Mark Landoll use to sell these units and what he called a harmonic dampener
as well. My Landoll 12 lb steel ring cost $80 while the dampener sold for
$375 at that time. They bolt directly to the stock flywheel with relative
ease and precision. Use a dial indicator to get it dead on.
Mark use to advertise both in Sport Aviation in the Propeller section.
Also see...
http://www.geocities.com/redrive_psru/HarmonicBalancer.html
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up to posting about KLX-135A |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
>>> I've got some additional data on the business practices of Aircraft
Spruce that came to a head today. I had ordered a digital G meter from them
while at Reno. It was a new listing in their printed catalog. I got a notice
that it was backordered. It took two emails and two calls to get an
estimated ship date. Then I received a confusing email asking what country I
wanted it shipped to. I called them and found out that since this was a
brand new item with no stock and shipped from overseas, that I would have to
pay an additional $50 fee. Isn't that the point of companies like Aircraft
Spruce, they maintain stock so the manufacturer doesn't have to?
>
> Now back to the drawing board on a g meter.<<
Now, you understand why I quit doing business with them, the second time.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: New Pitot Tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Excellent! You got a fantastic deal on a heated pitot. 2 Even! If I dont
cast some new ones I will probably just buy the Dynon heated pitot for my
project (RV10) I will almost never fly IFR, but I think the plane will
deseve the option. I am spending too much time and money to put that ugly
little tube under the wing. If I ever decide to sell it the next owner will
almost certainly want it to be IFR capable......so I better make it an easy
thing to do. Next time you go to the airplane scrapyard look for one for me
:) We dont have any airplane scrapyards around here.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: <Kathleen@rv7.us>
Subject: RE: RV-List: New Pitot Tube
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
> I bought 2 used AN 5812 heated pitots from the local aircraft recycler for
> $5 each. I said I was NOT going to use them on aircraft. One was bent,
the
> other scratched. http://www.rv7.us/daily040908%20w.htm to see them. It
> turns out that they both work fine. What I did wrong, was I failed to get
> the phenolic connectors that were with them (not smart on my part). Do
try
> your local aircraft recycler, but say you want them for a science
experiment
> or demonstration project. They wanted $100 each if they were to be
mounted
> on an aircraft of any type....
>
> BTW - I'm not encouraging you to lie, so adjust my suggestion to fit your
> own moral balance. I justified it as a reasonable effort to protect
myself
> against rippoff. It worked for me :-)
>
> Kathleen Evans
> www.rv7.us
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Evan and Megan
> Johnson
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: New Pitot Tube
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
> <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
> Gentlemen (and ladies) I just started looking at my options for a pitot
tube
> for my RV10 project and am horrified with the results. I can either bend a
> piece of aluminum per the plans (way too ugly for me) or seemingly spend a
> minimum of around 300 bucks for a faired in non heated pitot with mount.
The
> standard AN 5812 is now up to $962.00 for certified and over $400 for non
> certified....without a mount! Sooo, I need a show of hands. I am looking
> into casting a new pitot tube in aluminum and I want to make sure there
will
> be enough interest in it to go forward. It will be a non heated version
with
> a stainless 1/4" tube running through it. The target sale price including
a
> mount is around $200.00. I need some feedback please, on or off list is
fine
> with me.
>
> Thanks a bunch......Evan Johnson
> (530) 351-1776
> www.evansaviationproducts.com
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Cammie Patch" <cammie@sunvalley.net>
Last month I reserved a new tail number. Before that I had N5YR, but I don't
think I'll finish my RV-7a before January (five year mark), so I reserved
533YA. Squint at it a little and you'll see what it says.......
Cammie
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I'm a little disappointed in the range of my comm radio. Inside 20 miles
it's OK, but I was expecting more. It's an SL30 radio with a clean commant
bent-whip antenna under the footwell. What sort of things can I do/check to
ensure I'm getting the max performance from it?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Very nice!
You all know the N1KE story don't you. It was worth a bit to one pilot...
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--> RV-List message posted by: Danny Lawhon <dlawhon@yahoo.com>
I don't get it ? , but then again I can never see the
stuff in holigrams either.. Please explain..
Danny..
> Last month I reserved a new tail number. Before that
> I had N5YR, but I don't
> think I'll finish my RV-7a before January (five year
> mark), so I reserved
> 533YA. Squint at it a little and you'll see what it
> says.......
>
> Cammie
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
533YA = SEE YA!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Lawhon" <dlawhon@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: tail number
> --> RV-List message posted by: Danny Lawhon <dlawhon@yahoo.com>
>
> I don't get it ? , but then again I can never see the
> stuff in holigrams either.. Please explain..
>
>
> Danny..
>
> > Last month I reserved a new tail number. Before that
> > I had N5YR, but I don't
> > think I'll finish my RV-7a before January (five year
> > mark), so I reserved
> > 533YA. Squint at it a little and you'll see what it
> > says.......
> >
> > Cammie
> >
>
>
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>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
See YA?
do not archive
Danny Lawhon wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Danny Lawhon <dlawhon@yahoo.com>
>
>I don't get it ? , but then again I can never see the
>stuff in holigrams either.. Please explain..
>
>
>Danny..
>
>
>
>>Last month I reserved a new tail number. Before that
>>I had N5YR, but I don't
>>think I'll finish my RV-7a before January (five year
>>mark), so I reserved
>>533YA. Squint at it a little and you'll see what it
>>says.......
>>
>>Cammie
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>_______________________________
>Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now.
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Saw the plane at LAX one day. It's painted like a sneaker... very
ingenious.
How much did they have to pay to get the tail number?
Keith
do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: tail number
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
>
> Very nice!
>
> You all know the N1KE story don't you. It was worth a bit to one pilot...
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
Larry:
I believe Bob Knuckles' advice on radio problems is that a large
fraction are caused by poor connections or poor grounding. So make sure
your antenna cable is good and the antenna has a good ground connection.
The standard test for antenna efficiency is an SWR meter (Standing Wave
Ratio). It's a measure of how well the transmitter power is coupling
into the antenna (actually getting radiated).
Larry Bowen wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I'm a little disappointed in the range of my comm radio.
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Any know if Bob Hann is still in the wigwag business? Attempts to reach him
have gone unanswered.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Larry Bowen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
>Any know if Bob Hann is still in the wigwag business? Attempts to reach him
>have gone unanswered.
>
>-
>Larry Bowen
>Larry@BowenAero.com
>http://BowenAero.com
>Do not archive
>
>
>
Larry
I believe that Bob is no longer selling the wigwag system. He believes
that there are simpler cheaper systems now available.
Jerry
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
I have one Larry...
http://www.creativair.com/cva
-Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Springer" <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hann WigWag
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Larry Bowen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
>Any know if Bob Hann is still in the wigwag business? Attempts to reach
>him
>have gone unanswered.
>
>-
>Larry Bowen
>Larry@BowenAero.com
>http://BowenAero.com
>Do not archive
>
>
Larry
I believe that Bob is no longer selling the wigwag system. He believes
that there are simpler cheaper systems now available.
Jerry
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--> RV-List message posted by: "steve zicree" <szicree@adelphia.net>
Having just finished reading "Electric" Bob Nuckoll's book, I think I'd
shoot him an email with the particulars and see what he says. This book has
been extremely informative and he seems to know a ton about how to get the
most out of antennas. Good luck sorting it out.
Steve Zicree
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RV-List: Radio Range
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I'm a little disappointed in the range of my comm radio. Inside 20 miles
> it's OK, but I was expecting more. It's an SL30 radio with a clean
commant
> bent-whip antenna under the footwell. What sort of things can I do/check
to
> ensure I'm getting the max performance from it?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I already have one of his units. I'll looking for support. One side works
great, the other is buggy. Near as I can determine all connections are
correct and sound. I agree there are cheaper/newer/better ones out there
now, but I got this one instead. :)
If he's closed up shop, he should say so on his website, IMO.
http://users.easystreet.com/bhaan/wigwag.pdf
Thanks,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Springer [mailto:jsflyrv@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:10 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Hann WigWag
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
> Larry Bowen wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> >
> >Any know if Bob Hann is still in the wigwag business? Attempts to
> >reach him have gone unanswered.
> >
> >-
> >Larry Bowen
> >Larry@BowenAero.com
> >http://BowenAero.com
> >Do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> Larry
> I believe that Bob is no longer selling the wigwag system. He
> believes that there are simpler cheaper systems now available.
>
> Jerry
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