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1. 01:47 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Dana Overall)
2. 02:45 AM - Re: biennial flight review ()
3. 05:31 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Doug Rozendaal)
4. 05:43 AM - Strobe in VS (RVEIGHTA@aol.com)
5. 06:00 AM - Re: Strobe in VS (Bill VonDane)
6. 06:18 AM - Re: AFP installation on IO-360 (Scott Bilinski)
7. 06:44 AM - Re: OT: concentric bifocal contacts? (Bob 1)
8. 06:46 AM - My XCOM 760 order (RV8ter@aol.com)
9. 06:54 AM - Clecos (George Neal E Capt AU/PC)
10. 07:01 AM - Re: AFP installation on IO-360 (Dave Bristol)
11. 07:17 AM - Light reading (Finn Lassen)
12. 07:20 AM - Thank you for your email (Dan Viet Newspaper)
13. 07:21 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Jack Ford)
14. 07:25 AM - Re: My XCOM 760 order (Scott VanArtsdalen)
15. 08:04 AM - BFR (Donald Mei)
16. 08:13 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Skylor Piper)
17. 08:26 AM - wingtip antenna SWR field data (SportAV8R@aol.com)
18. 08:48 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Mike Kellems)
19. 08:57 AM - Re: AFP installation on IO-360 (Mike Robertson)
20. 09:04 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
21. 09:05 AM - Re: AFP installation on IO-360 (Dan Checkoway)
22. 09:45 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Brian Denk)
23. 10:01 AM - Re: wingtip antenna SWR field data 0.50 MIME_BASE64_LATIN RAW: Latin alphabet text using base64 encoding 1.01 MIME_BASE64_TEXT RAW: Message text disguised using base64 encoding (Bob J)
24. 10:06 AM - Re: biennial flight review (Bill VonDane)
25. 10:26 AM - Re: biennial flight review (RV_8 Pilot)
26. 11:07 AM - Re: Light reading (Randy Lervold)
27. 12:11 PM - Re: wingtip antenna SWR field data 0.50 MIME_BASE64_LATIN RAW: Latin alphabet text using base64 encoding 1.01 MIME_BASE64_TEXT RAW: Message text disguised using base64 encoding (SportAV8R@aol.com)
28. 12:25 PM - Re: biennial flight review (Doug Rozendaal)
29. 12:55 PM - Re: wingtip antenna (George Neal E Capt AU/PC)
30. 01:26 PM - Re: OT: concentric bifocal contacts? (Scott Jackson)
31. 01:27 PM - Re: OT: concentric bifocal contacts? (Scott Jackson)
32. 01:38 PM - Re: wingtip antenna (SportAV8R@aol.com)
33. 02:04 PM - Preparing the engine cowl for paint (PeterHunt1@aol.com)
34. 02:08 PM - Re: OT: concentric bifocal contacts? (Hull, Don)
35. 02:29 PM - Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint (Scott Bilinski)
36. 02:45 PM - Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce (Ken Simmons)
37. 02:45 PM - Ah ah (Wheeler North)
38. 02:56 PM - Re: wingtip antenna SWR field data 0.50 MIME_BASE64_LATIN RAW: Latin alphabet text using base64 encoding 1.01 MIME_BASE64_TEXT RAW: Message text disguised using base64 encoding (Bob J)
39. 02:57 PM - Re: Light reading (Kyle Boatright)
40. 03:03 PM - Re : My XCOM 760 order (Martin Hone)
41. 03:23 PM - BMA EFIS Lite G3 (Bordelon, Greg)
42. 03:25 PM - Re: biennial flight review (LarryRobertHelming)
43. 03:44 PM - best vhf comm? (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
44. 04:07 PM - Re: Re : My XCOM 760 order (Scott VanArtsdalen)
45. 04:11 PM - Re: best vhf comm? (Scott VanArtsdalen)
46. 04:16 PM - Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce (LARRY ADAMSON)
47. 04:46 PM - Re: wingtip antenna SWR field data (SportAV8R@aol.com)
48. 04:50 PM - Re: biennial flight review (Richard Bibb)
49. 05:30 PM - Re: biennial flight review (Jerry Springer)
50. 05:33 PM - Re: biennial flight review (Jerry Springer)
51. 05:35 PM - Re: biennial flight review (Jerry Springer)
52. 05:54 PM - Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
53. 06:04 PM - Re: biennial flight review (Evan and Megan Johnson)
54. 06:56 PM - Re: BMA EFIS Lite G3 ()
55. 07:59 PM - >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
56. 08:00 PM - Warranty time line (Mike Comeaux)
57. 09:33 PM - Re: Elevator Questions (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
58. 09:57 PM - Re: Re : My XCOM 760 order (Ernest Kells)
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>Regs require dual controls
>
You know, this seems to be another one of those he said/she said issues.
With many Bonanzas having a throwover yoke, this discussion has come up many
times on the Bonanza list. Seems the prevailing thought (don't shot the
piano player here) is that one must have dual controls for primary
instruction. When I was getting ready to take my commercial ride the
examiner said he would rather have a dual yoke but would do it with the
throwover, once again...not primary instruction. During my early instrument
days I took instruction in a throwover yoke Bonanza since, once again, it
was not primary instruction. Later, I took one bi in my Bonanza.
Just throwing a tidbit out to chew on....................
Dana Overall
RV-7, "Black Magic"
Richmond, KY i39
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> You know, this seems to be another one of those he said/she said issues.
> With many Bonanzas having a throwover yoke, this discussion has come up
many
> times on the Bonanza list. Seems the prevailing thought (don't shot the
> piano player here) is that one must have dual controls for primary
> instruction. When I was getting ready to take my commercial ride the
> examiner said he would rather have a dual yoke but would do it with the
> throwover, once again...not primary instruction. During my early
instrument
> days I took instruction in a throwover yoke Bonanza since, once again, it
> was not primary instruction. Later, I took one bi in my Bonanza.
>
> Just throwing a tidbit out to chew on....................
>
I was thinking of the Bonanza when someone talked about needing two yokes,
or sticks. I just had a BFR and only had one stick in place. The
instructor knows I can fly my RV; so, he felt comfortable with the one
stick. He just reached over and moved my stick when he needed it. The
other stick was lying next to the seat; so, he could slip it in, if he had a
need for that. He didn't. I guess I didn't scare him enough with my flying
skills. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
RV-7A #70317 (Building wings, fuse ordered)
EAA Tech Counselor
EAA Flight Advisor
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Here is what the FAR says:
Sec. 91.109 Flight instruction; Simulated instrument flight and certain
flight tests.
(a) No person may operate a civil aircraft (except a manned free
balloon)
that is being used for flight instruction unless that aircraft has fully
functioning dual controls. However, instrument flight instruction may be
given in a single-engine airplane equipped with a single, functioning
throwover control wheel in place of fixed, dual controls of the elevator
and
ailerons when--
(1) The instructor has determined that the flight can be conducted
safely;
and
(2) The person manipulating the controls has at least a private pilot
certificate with appropriate category and class ratings.
While the FARs may be where we find what is legal and proper when it comes
to flying airplanes, the FAA looks in their FAA Inspectors Handbook. There
are lots of rules in the "Handbook" that you will never find in the FARs and
they enforce the handbook like it is the law. Here is what the Handbook
says on dual controls for flight instruction, and per FAR 61.56, a BFR is
flight instruction.
http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/hbga/hbga0008.doc
I don't see any way that a BFR can be legally, or more importantly given in
an airplane without stick, throttle, rudder pedals in the back seat.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
I plan to install a strobe in the vertical stab of my rv-8, but am having a
hard time finding one that will fit - width seems to be the problem. Vans says
the whelen A650 has been adapted for the VS. Anybody out there have any
recommendations on what type to use? (The archives are full of stuff about strobes
in the VS, but not much on what type of strobe to use)
Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Strobe in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Walt... I have one in the works if you're not in a hurry...
-Bill
www.creativair.com/cva
----- Original Message -----
From: <RVEIGHTA@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Strobe in VS
--> RV-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
I plan to install a strobe in the vertical stab of my rv-8, but am having a
hard time finding one that will fit - width seems to be the problem. Vans
says
the whelen A650 has been adapted for the VS. Anybody out there have any
recommendations on what type to use? (The archives are full of stuff about
strobes
in the VS, but not much on what type of strobe to use)
Walt Shipley RV-8A flying RV-8 fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: AFP installation on IO-360 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Take this to the Lycoming E-mail list. AFP monitors it.
lycoming@yahoogroups.com
At 10:20 PM 10/12/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
>
>Does any one have any pictures on their web page of their AFP air
>controller installed on the engine? Preferably without much else in the
>way. I'm puzzling over the AFP manual (which has VERY badly reproduced
>photos in it) and it would help a lot to see one installed.
>
>Also, the AFP manual seems to talk about control cable brackets as
>though they are an off the shelf item, but apparently not from Van's or
>AFP. Do I make these myself?
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Tom Sargent, RV-6A
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: OT: concentric bifocal contacts? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "HAL KEMPTHORNE" <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: OT: concentric bifocal contacts?
> --> RV-List message posted by: HAL KEMPTHORNE
<hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> I was under the impression that two eyes give depth perception out to
about 25 feet. Beyond that it comes from our experience with the size of
objects. So, if we are shown a miniature house that is forty feet away we
judge it to be further.
>
> Wiley Post had only one eye - other pilots reported that he would move his
head from side to side while landing.
>
> hal
-------------------------------------------
How many of you know one-eyed pilots?
I have had the honor of knowing two.
One is a best friend with a commercial ticket that flies multi-
engine most of the time that solidly confirms Hal's 'impression'.
The other was a business competitor; a one eyed pilot that
died after many decades in the cropdusting profession....
and it wasn't flying related. <g>
Bob
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| Subject: | My XCOM 760 order |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
Mr Coates,
I have been trying to reach you for over a week. My request for confirmation that
my order for the radio and the wire harness have gone unanswered even though
I submitted all my credit card and wire harness information. That's unacceptable
and as a result I want to inform you I am cancelling my order.
I am saving this email per my credit card company's request for later charge dispute
should you later charge an order to my credit card.
Further, because as soon as I submitted my credit card info all correspondence
from your end stopped this attempted transaction doesn't feel legit anymore so
I am CC the RV list which is where I first heard about your product in hopes
it might somehow either save others from future grief or help motivate you in
conducting what I think are better business practices.
I lived in Europe for 18 years and did a lot of ordering from around the world
and I don't find the distance an acceptable excuse for poor customer service.
Thank you,
Frank "Lucky" Macy
Pennsylvania USA
In a message dated 10/3/2004 2:05:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael Coates <info@xcom760.com>
writes:
>
>
>
>
>Hello Frank,nbsp; Hopefully it will be shipped this coming week because i think
we have a few extra units left over in this shippment.....nbsp; if it doesnt
make this production batch it will be in the next batch in 4 weeks time. We are
selling them quicker than they can make radios.
>
>Thanks Michael
>
>
>RV8ter@aol.comwrote:
> If I order this week, how long until shipment? nbsp; thanks, Frank
>
>
>-- With regards, Michael Coates XCOM Avionics Email: info@xcom760.comXCOM Web Site: http://www.xcom760.com"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you long to return."
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
Listers -
If you've finished building and want to get rid of some clecos, I need a
bunch.
Neal George
244 Andrews Street
Maxwell AFB, AL 36113
Work - 334-953-1516
Cell - 334-546-2033
Home - 334-262-8993
n8zg@arrl.net
n8zg@knology.net
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| Subject: | Re: AFP installation on IO-360 |
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Tom,
When I ordered my AFP unit I told them what airplane it was for and they
sent all the necessary brackets. They had a kit specifically for the
RV6/O-360 installation. This was about 6 years ago so things might have
changed, but I'd give Don a call.
Dave RV6 So Cal
thomas a. sargent wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
>
>Does any one have any pictures on their web page of their AFP air
>controller installed on the engine? Preferably without much else in the
>way. I'm puzzling over the AFP manual (which has VERY badly reproduced
>photos in it) and it would help a lot to see one installed.
>
>Also, the AFP manual seems to talk about control cable brackets as
>though they are an off the shelf item, but apparently not from Van's or
>AFP. Do I make these myself?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
I just came across an old printout and I thought I'd pass it on. I found
it funny.
Search the RV archive for "Long Oshkosh article" by J. Rion Bourgeois,
August '94.
do not archive
Finn
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| Subject: | Thank you for your email |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Viet Newspaper" <info@danviet.com.au>
Thank you,
We have received your email.
It will be attended to as soon as we possibly can.
Have a nice day!
Cam on ban,
Chung toi da nhan duoc email cua ban.
Chung toi se luu y trong thoi gian som nhat.
Chuc ban mot ngay vui ve.
Tuan bao Dan Viet.
(This is an auto reply message)
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Ford" <jackoford@theofficenet.com>
Don't know now, but years ago the throwover yoke was speciffically addressed
in the FARs as acceptable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: biennial flight review
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
>
> >From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
> >
> >Regs require dual controls
> >
>
>
> You know, this seems to be another one of those he said/she said issues.
> With many Bonanzas having a throwover yoke, this discussion has come up
many
> times on the Bonanza list. Seems the prevailing thought (don't shot the
> piano player here) is that one must have dual controls for primary
> instruction. When I was getting ready to take my commercial ride the
> examiner said he would rather have a dual yoke but would do it with the
> throwover, once again...not primary instruction. During my early
instrument
> days I took instruction in a throwover yoke Bonanza since, once again, it
> was not primary instruction. Later, I took one bi in my Bonanza.
>
> Just throwing a tidbit out to chew on....................
>
> Dana Overall
> RV-7, "Black Magic"
> Richmond, KY i39
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
>
>
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| Subject: | My XCOM 760 order |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
It's a shame. When I ordered my MicroAir 760 and T2000 he was very
prompt at answering emails (almost always the next day.) I don't know
what's happened over there but I hope he can straighten things out. My
MA 760 has been working fine. From what's being said though I hope it
never has a problem. Sounds like getting service will be problematic.
Any Ozzie blokes on the list? Can you get hold of Michael Coates and
see what's up?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV
4-ever!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV8ter@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: My XCOM 760 order
--> RV-List message posted by: RV8ter@aol.com
Mr Coates,
I have been trying to reach you for over a week. My request for
confirmation that my order for the radio and the wire harness have gone
unanswered even though I submitted all my credit card and wire harness
information. That's unacceptable and as a result I want to inform you I
am cancelling my order.
I am saving this email per my credit card company's request for later
charge dispute should you later charge an order to my credit card.
Further, because as soon as I submitted my credit card info all
correspondence from your end stopped this attempted transaction doesn't
feel legit anymore so I am CC the RV list which is where I first heard
about your product in hopes it might somehow either save others from
future grief or help motivate you in conducting what I think are better
business practices.
I lived in Europe for 18 years and did a lot of ordering from around the
world and I don't find the distance an acceptable excuse for poor
customer service.
Thank you,
Frank "Lucky" Macy
Pennsylvania USA
In a message dated 10/3/2004 2:05:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael
Coates <info@xcom760.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>Hello Frank,nbsp; Hopefully it will be shipped this coming week because
i think we have a few extra units left over in this shippment.....nbsp;
if it doesnt make this production batch it will be in the next batch in
4 weeks time. We are selling them quicker than they can make radios.
>
>Thanks Michael
>
>
>RV8ter@aol.comwrote:
> If I order this week, how long until shipment? nbsp; thanks, Frank
>
>
>-- With regards, Michael Coates XCOM Avionics Email:
info@xcom760.comXCOM Web Site: http://www.xcom760.com"Once you have
flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there
you have been, and there you long to return."
>
>
==
==
==
==
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Mei" <don_mei@hotmail.com>
I do my BFR in my '4 with the guy who taught me to fly my '4. For the
transition training I installed the rear rudder pedals. Once I was signed
off, I removed them. We do my BFR now without the rudder pedals.
Actually we do a wings program in lieu of the BFR. This year, we did
instrument work in my RV with the Dynon and did other work in a Piper Cub.
That was great fun.
I would advise you NOT to install rear rudder pedals for the sake of a BFR.
Yes, they are cheap, but they are not a good addition to the airplane for
the following reasons:
1)Ugly
2)crude
3)heavy
4)limited rudder authority
5)impinge on the pilots room
I suggest you either find someone who will fly with you in the '4 without
the rudder pedals, or do your BFR in something else. There are plenty of
interesting and fun aircraft you can use. It doesn't have to be a cherokee
or a skyhawk.
Don
"All of us need to be reminded that the federal government did not create
the states; the states created the federal government!"---Ronald Reagan
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
You know, this brings up an interesting point:
The Bonanza Pilot Proficiency Program includes flight
instruction, and is an acceptable alternative to a
BFR.
The BPPP instructors fly with owners in their own
aircraft, many of which only have the throw over yoke.
It is my understanding that instructors can obtain
waivers to give instruction to a CURRENT pilot in a
single yoke aircraft, and this is how the BPPP program
gets around the dual controls requirement.
Skylor
RV-8 QB, Under Construction
--- Dana Overall <bo124rs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall"
> <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
>
> >From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
> >
> >Regs require dual controls
> >
>
>
> You know, this seems to be another one of those he
> said/she said issues.
> With many Bonanzas having a throwover yoke, this
> discussion has come up many
> times on the Bonanza list. Seems the prevailing
> thought (don't shot the
> piano player here) is that one must have dual
> controls for primary
> instruction. When I was getting ready to take my
> commercial ride the
> examiner said he would rather have a dual yoke but
> would do it with the
> throwover, once again...not primary instruction.
> During my early instrument
> days I took instruction in a throwover yoke Bonanza
> since, once again, it
> was not primary instruction. Later, I took one bi
> in my Bonanza.
>
> Just throwing a tidbit out to chew
> on....................
>
> Dana Overall
> RV-7, "Black Magic"
> Richmond, KY i39
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
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| Subject: | wingtip antenna SWR field data |
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--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
I have now completed the initial fabrication and set-up of a copper-foil wingtip
comm antenna patterned after the design in the Aeroelectric Connection. The
overall dimensions are similar to the ones in the book, except that I made most
of the radiating element rather fat, 1.5 to 2 inches in width (3 or 4 parallel
strips of the copper foil tape, tack-soldered together at points along their
adjoining edges. The gamma network uses a small air-variable capacitor which
is mounted so as to be field-adjustable via a screwdriver inserted through
a small hole in the underside of the wingtip. The foil itself is applied to the
aft portion of the interior undersurface of the conventional (not "sheared")
Van's wingtip. Coax feed is via RG-400 with a service disconnect at the outboard
wing rib. Nav light wiring is dressed as far forward in the wingtip as
possible to minimize interaction with the antenna.
I learned some interesting things from comparing antenna analyzer measurements
at the bench and on the plane, both in flight and on the ground. To summarize,
the antenna as prorotyped is very broadband, with a W-shaped VSWR curve (two
minima), and SWR measurements obtained in flight (far away from any nearby detuning
objects or ground) were NOT different enough from ground-based measurements
to justify airborne tweaking of the design. This is nice to know, since
adjustments are only possible and measurements so much easier to obtain on the
ground!
VSWR values obtained in flight are as follows:
114 MHz - 1.6
118 MHz - 1.3
123 MHz - 1.7
127 MHz - 1.2
134 MHz - 1.7
138 MHz - 1.5
141 MHz - 2.5
143 MHz - 3.0
As I said, this is one very broadband antenna! I hope this is due to its shape
factor and not to low Q! The bimodal SWR curve shape probably results from the
antenna itself being resonant at a different sweet spot than the gamma matching
network is. Reactance readings vary wildly across the tuning range as the
analyzer signal is swept across the band. The counterpoise section length does
influence the performance of the antenna on the bench, as I alluded in an
earlier post. Some of the SWR curve's strange shape might reflect resonances on
the counterpoise section or the nav light wiring.
Basic antenna shape:
______ <radiating element
/
/_\________ <counterpoise section
Observations: I noticed one difference right away over the old belly-mounted bent
whip that is no longer on the plane: as soon as I broke ground at my home
field (1060 MSL), I could receive the Ingalls AWOS station, which would normally
require a climb to 3000 MSL. This AWOS is about 10 miles away and shielded
by sitting atop a 3760' MSL tableau. By leveling off at about 2500 feet and
flying an octagonal pattern (with wings level between turns), I was able to form
some preliminary impressions about antenna directionality. You'd think the
primary effect would be shielding by the wing rib and fuselage, but what I found
was the antenna hears best at its "open " end, with the station behind the
plane. Even flying straight towards the AWOS, with plenty of copper foil exposed
to the station, the squelch would not break until I turned abreast or away
from the AWOS. Of course, banking the plane in a turn exposes the antenna to
lots of unobstructed horizon in a way that level flight does not, so I ignored
that for purposes of the discussion presented here.
My plan is to have two such antennas, one in each wingtip, with a BNC antenna switch
to select whichever one receives a given station the best. Further testing
with more distant stations, well away from this mountainous terrain, will
be necessary to really see what the radiation pattern looks like, but so far I
am very encouraged. I like having stealth antennas with no drag and total protection
from the elements. There is a slight weight penalty from the extra coax
run to the other wingtip and the selector switch.
-Bill Boyd
archive for posterity
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kellems" <mkellems@tnweb.com>
Stop in @ LUG in Tennessee - I'll do your BFR with or without dual controls. Mike
Kellems RV4 580RG
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: N13eer@aol.com
>--> RV-List message posted by: N13eer@aol.com
>
>John,
>I just had the same issue with my -8. So I put rear rudder peddels in last weekend
and will have to get a throttle in before the end of the month. Van's has
a rudder kit for you but on the -4 your on your own for the throttle. RV-4
rear seat rudder pedals, Part Number = RSR-PED, Price = $105.00
>
>
>Alan Kritzman
>Cedar Rapid, IA
>RV-8 N8EM
>23 months of flying
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: jadecuir@comcast.net
>
>How does an RV-4 driver get a review in his own aircraft? Or do I need to rent
an aircraft with complete dual controls?
>John DeCuir
>RV-4, N204CP
>Salinas, CA
>
>
>---
>
>
---
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| Subject: | AFP installation on IO-360 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Tom,
AP has an installation kit for different models of aircraft. The RV kit
comes with all the brackets needed to install the controls with the
exception of a little bit of 3/4 X 3/4 angle. I would get ahold of Airflow
Performance and ask them about it.
Mike Robertson
>From: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: AFP installation on IO-360 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004
>22:20:47 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
>
>Does any one have any pictures on their web page of their AFP air
>controller installed on the engine? Preferably without much else in the
>way. I'm puzzling over the AFP manual (which has VERY badly reproduced
>photos in it) and it would help a lot to see one installed.
>
>Also, the AFP manual seems to talk about control cable brackets as
>though they are an off the shelf item, but apparently not from Van's or
>AFP. Do I make these myself?
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Tom Sargent, RV-6A
>
>
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Before my RV was completed, I took my biennial in an N numbered single seat
Phantom ultralight. The instructor would stand on the ground and radio to
me whatever maneuver he wanted to see done. Its all perfectly legal. You
just need to find a CFI with an open mind and a sense of humor.
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
www.buildersbooks.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Ford <jackoford@theofficenet.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: biennial flight review
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Ford" <jackoford@theofficenet.com>
>
> Don't know now, but years ago the throwover yoke was speciffically
addressed
> in the FARs as acceptable.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: biennial flight review
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> > >From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
> > >
> > >Regs require dual controls
> > >
> >
> >
> > You know, this seems to be another one of those he said/she said issues.
> > With many Bonanzas having a throwover yoke, this discussion has come up
> many
> > times on the Bonanza list. Seems the prevailing thought (don't shot the
> > piano player here) is that one must have dual controls for primary
> > instruction. When I was getting ready to take my commercial ride the
> > examiner said he would rather have a dual yoke but would do it with the
> > throwover, once again...not primary instruction. During my early
> instrument
> > days I took instruction in a throwover yoke Bonanza since, once again,
it
> > was not primary instruction. Later, I took one bi in my Bonanza.
> >
> > Just throwing a tidbit out to chew on....................
> >
> > Dana Overall
> > RV-7, "Black Magic"
> > Richmond, KY i39
> > http://rvflying.tripod.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AFP installation on IO-360 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.rvproject.com (AFP FM-200 on IO-360-A1B6)
I can't be much more specific than that because there are LOTS of pages in
the engine/fwf section with tons of photos.
Best of luck,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: AFP installation on IO-360
> --> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
>
> Does any one have any pictures on their web page of their AFP air
> controller installed on the engine? Preferably without much else in the
> way. I'm puzzling over the AFP manual (which has VERY badly reproduced
> photos in it) and it would help a lot to see one installed.
>
> Also, the AFP manual seems to talk about control cable brackets as
> though they are an off the shelf item, but apparently not from Van's or
> AFP. Do I make these myself?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Tom Sargent, RV-6A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>Before my RV was completed, I took my biennial in an N numbered single seat
>Phantom ultralight. The instructor would stand on the ground and radio to
>me whatever maneuver he wanted to see done. Its all perfectly legal. You
>just need to find a CFI with an open mind and a sense of humor.
>
>Andy
>Builder's Bookstore
>www.buildersbooks.com
I've had two BFR's in my RV8. CFI just rides along and grins.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip antenna SWR field data 0.50 MIME_BASE64_LATIN RAW: |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:25:32 -0400, sportav8r@aol.com <sportav8r@aol.com> wrote:
> The gamma network uses a small air-variable capacitor which is mounted so as
to be field-adjustable via a screwdriver inserted through a small hole in the
underside of the wingtip. The foil itself is applied to the aft portion of the
interior undersurface of the conventional (not "sheared") Van's wingtip. Coax
feed is via RG-400 with a service disconnect at the outboard wing rib. Nav
light wiring is dressed as far forward in the wingtip as possible to minimize
interaction with the antenna.
Hi Bill,
Nice work. I am putting in an Archer comm antenna in both wingtips in
my F1 (I bought one to use as a pattern), and I have been considering
replacing the gamma-match network with a variable capacitor to adjust
it as you've done, but someone pointed out to me that it may not be a
good idea due to reactance. I'm not an antenna guy so that stuff is a
little bit beyond me, but I do have access to an antenna analyzer. I
also think that with the newer style wingtips, the radiating element
could be attached around the curved outer portion of the wingtip,
exposing more surface horizontally...
What value did you use for the variable capacitor?
> My plan is to have two such antennas, one in each wingtip, with a BNC antenna
>switch to select whichever one receives a given station the best.
I have two Icom radios that I am using (very handy to have two comm's
when flying x/c in formation), so each radio will have its own
antenna. Just out of curiousity, are you constructing the antenna
switch yourself? I would think it would be easy to make one yourself
and the losses would be insignificant.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying, F1 qb under const.
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Same here...
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: biennial flight review
I've had two BFR's in my RV8. CFI just rides along and grins.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Sounds about the same as offering instrument instruction from the back seat
of a 4+place A/C (it is legal, as interpreted by a knowledgable source).
If metal get's bent, there's a good chance the CFI will face some form of
action in any instance. The odds are probably higher in the instance of
offering instruction from a non-fully equipped seat, I would imagine.
2
do not archive
Bryan
>
>I've had two BFR's in my RV8. CFI just rides along and grins.
>
>Brian Denk
>RV8 N94BD
>RV10 '51
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Light reading |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Rion is our Chapter president, and I now have the classic article posted on
our chapter's web site...
http://www.eaa105.org/Activities/activities.htm#FlyOutTrips
Just click on "Flying to Oshkos with Dangerous Dan..." It is indeed
hilarious.
Randy Lervold
----- Original Message -----
From: "Finn Lassen" <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
Subject: RV-List: Light reading
> --> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
>
> I just came across an old printout and I thought I'd pass it on. I found
> it funny.
>
> Search the RV archive for "Long Oshkosh article" by J. Rion Bourgeois,
> August '94.
>
> do not archive
>
> Finn
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Hey, Bob.
Good to hear from you. I hope you found all that useful.
Regarding the antenna and capacitor, your friend may be a bit confused. The archer
antenna has a capacitor in it, made from bakelite and aluminum, just not
adjustable. No doubt he has the capacitance value dialed in close enough for
mass production. Since I was venturing a bit beyond the prototype in my experiments,
using different materials for fabrication, I wanted the tuning feature
to make final adjustments. I used a small air variable cap the swings from 4-22pF,
and it's about midway meshed when adjusted for best match. The purpose
of this capacitor is to cancel out the inductive reactance already present in
the arm of the gamma match circuit. At exact antenna resonance, there will be
no reactance left, just pure resistance, which is what we want.
As for fabricating the switch, I could, but will likely snag a suitable switch
or DC relay off eBay and use that instead. I've seen plenty there for less than
the cost of the BNC bulkhead fittings alone. Two comms would be nice, but
that's not to be for me, until the next generation glass panel emerges from my
workshop and goes in the -6A, perhaps in 2006.
-Bill B
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Warning! Editorial begins here:
There is lots of ambiguity in some of the regs, but this one seems pretty
clear to my simple CFI mind. To get a BFR you have to have an hour of
flight instruction and an hour of ground instruction. And with the
exception of a instrument training with a throw-over yoke,(which I believe
is a loophole that would work for the Bonanzas and C-195s) you have to have
dual controls to give flight instruction, hence a BFR.
If you have an instructor who does it for you in a RV without rear seat
rudder pedals, that is between, you , him, and the FAA. Lots of people here
have said they will do it or they have had it done, but no one has made a
case that it is legal.
I am not trying to cause a stink, just illuminate to the regs. A bunch of
CFIs willing to do it, does not make it legal. I doubt anyone would never
have a problem, till they had a problem, and then the FAA (and possibly your
insurance company) will want their pound of flesh. Unless someone can
weave me a story like the "Instrument Instruction in a Throw-over airplane"
I will stand by my interpretation that a BFR in the backseat without stick,
rudder, and throttle is illegal.
When there is an accident, the FAA can be, and has been very far reaching.
i.e. The instructor gets a bust for giving instruction in a non-dual
control aircraft and the pilot for flying without a BFR.
I am happy to listen to a different interpretation. But more importantly I
would not give a BFR in a single control airplane because there is unneeded
risk associated with it. I have seen very good pilots turn into bumbling
buffons because I was giving them a BFR or a FAR 135 checkride.
Checkrideitis I guess.
Unfortunately there is usually a lot of spilled blood before anything makes
it to the FARs.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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--> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
Bill -
Did you take any photos before you closed it up?
neal
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| Subject: | Re: OT: concentric bifocal contacts? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
I was going to reply to this as I remember that an air;liner that went off
the extended runway deck at LaGuardia and got hung up on the approach lights
over the water was piloted by someone wearing different contact lenses, or
perhaps just one for correction.
I think the end result was the FAA banning their use, if it hadn't already
done so.
Scott in VAncouver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
Subject: RE: RV-List: OT: concentric bifocal contacts?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
>
> Charlie,
> I went through this with an EAA Opthalmologist, an AOPA Opthalmologist,
> and
> an FAA Optometrist. Unless the Class III medical form has changed in the
> last few months, it specifically asks if you have acted as pilot in
> command
> in the last XXX months with contact lens to correct for near vision. If
> you
> answer "yes," you will be told by the FAA in OKC that contact lens are not
> allowed to correct for near (reading) vision. I think it's a bad rule,
> and
> I hope your friend's eye doctor is correct, but I believe he's not aware
> of
> the new form that was instituted about 5 years ago. They specifically
> forbade all contacts for near vision because of one instance where a pilot
> had an accident while wearing one lens for near and one lens for far
> correction. They totally ignore bifocal contacts, except to disallow
> them.
> I hope I'm wrong, because I now fly with single vision contacts and
> "possess glasses that correct for near vision while exercising the
> privileges" of my airman certificate.
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie England [mailto:ceengland@bellsouth.net]
> To: England, Charlie
> Subject: RV-List: OT: concentric bifocal contacts?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
> It's about time for me to get my annual 'vision inspection' & one of my
> pilot friends tells me he's now wearing the new concentric ring bifocal
> contacts and that his eye doctor (who is also a pilot) prescribed them
> as ok to use while flying.
>
> I know that the old weighted type lenses aren't approved. What about the
> new type? Anybody flying with them who's gotten an official opinion on
> this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
> Come & eat BBQ at noon on Saturday at Slobovia Outernational Airport
>
>
> advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT: concentric bifocal contacts? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
Flying magazine reported a couple of months ago that the FAA had approved
these.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
Subject: RE: RV-List: OT: concentric bifocal contacts?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Bowen [mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com]
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: OT: concentric bifocal contacts?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Related but different -- anyone know the verdict is on Paragon CRT
> contacts?
> You wear them while you sleep only. Take them out during the day. What
> does the FAA think?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportAV8R@aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R@aol.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:23 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: OT: concentric bifocal contacts?
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>>
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England
>> <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> It's about time for me to get my annual 'vision inspection' &
>> one of my pilot friends tells me he's now wearing the new
>> concentric ring bifocal contacts and that his eye doctor
>> (who is also a pilot) prescribed them as ok to use while flying.
>>
>> I know that the old weighted type lenses aren't approved.
>> What about the new type? Anybody flying with them who's
>> gotten an official opinion on this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> Charlie: I didn't get an "official opinion" on them, beyond
>> simply passing my physical with them the last two times. I
>> tried to read whatever they put in front of me with contacts
>> in and with them out. I did not conceal the fact that I was
>> wearing contacts, but did not mention the bifocal nature of
>> the right lens to anyone. I made a passing score both for
>> near and at distance with the contacts in, and as far as I am
>> concerned, that is all that counts.
>>
>> YMMV.
>>
>> -BB
>>
>>
>> ============
>> Matronics Forums.
>> ============
>> ============
>> ============
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
--> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
Bill -
Did you take any photos before you closed it up?
neal
Yes, I did. Now to find them on the digicam and figure out how to post to the
list photoshare...
-Bill
do not archive
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| Subject: | Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: PeterHunt1@aol.com
I need some help/instruction in how to sand and prepare my RV-6 engine cowl
for painting. Are there preparation instructions somewhere? The archives
didn't help me. I want to do a nice job of filling the pin holes and sanding to
a
finish which will later take a high quality paint job. Some specific
instructions in preparing my cowl would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Pete
Clearwater, FL
RV-6, testing the wiring
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| Subject: | OT: concentric bifocal contacts? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
You may be correct, but the official reason can be found in the NTSB files
at
http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20001208X06964&key=1
The important sentences are:
"The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s)
of this accident as follows:
the inability of the captain, because of his use of monovision contact
lenses, to overcome his misperception of the airplane's position relative to
the runway during the visual portion of the approach. This misperception
occurred because of visual illusions produced by the approach over water in
limited light conditions, the absence of visible ground features, the rain
and fog, and the irregular spacing of the runway lights."
Notice that there were a lot of other factors involved.
This accident in October 1996 caused Question 17.b to be added to the
Application for Airman's Certificate, FAA Form 8500-8, (3-99) on or about
March '99. And we all have to answer this question whether we're ATP's,
CFI's, Commercial pilots, Private Pilots or have one eye or two, each time
we renew our medical certificate.
Please don't shoot the messenger; I don't like it either.
Don
P.S. to Mike: Whether you have one eye or two, when you do become
presbyopic, as almost everyone does as he/she grows older, LASIK does not
correct for near AND far vision on the same patient.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael McGee [mailto:jmpcrftr@teleport.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: OT: concentric bifocal contacts?
--> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>
All this mono vision problem the Feds have is due to someone loosing a
contact lens and not having the required vision to meet specs. I believe
it has resulted in bent aluminum and paper work so they made a rule. With
Lasik you can't "loose" a lens.
Mike (also a one-eyed pilot)
Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR
13B in gestation mode, RD-1C, EC-2
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| Subject: | Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
After having sprayed on the primer I would have put on the first coat with
a brush or roller Sand off 90% then spray on the other coats. You cant blow
paint into a pin hole.
At 05:03 PM 10/13/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: PeterHunt1@aol.com
>
>I need some help/instruction in how to sand and prepare my RV-6 engine cowl
>for painting. Are there preparation instructions somewhere? The archives
>didn't help me. I want to do a nice job of filling the pin holes and
>sanding to a
>finish which will later take a high quality paint job. Some specific
>instructions in preparing my cowl would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pete
>Clearwater, FL
>RV-6, testing the wiring
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
I posted the message at the bottom of this email concerning an issue with Aircraft
Spruce. Below is the response I received from Jim Irwin:
Ken:
I saw your posting to the RV group regarding the matter of freight from
Europe, and I certainly agree with you that we handled this matter
incorrectly. It is true that this is a new line of instruments but as a
distributor, we are expected to stock them, and you should not have to incur
freight from Europe. We have been working with TL Elektronic on getting
stock of the best selling units, and we expect to have stock soon. Please
let me know if we can reinstate your order and we will either have the unit
drop shipped directly to you from the factory, or if not possible, will ship
as soon as we receive stock. We will pay the freight on the order due to our
incorrect handling of the freight issue.
I do hope that you have been satisfied with the service Aircraft Spruce
has provided in the past and that we will have the opportunity to continue
to serve you. I look forward to your reply and I apologize for this
inconvenience.
Sincerely,
Jim Irwin
President, Aircraft Spruce
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
I've got some additional data on the business practices of Aircraft Spruce that
came to a head today. I had ordered a digital G meter from them while at Reno.
It was a new listing in their printed catalog. I got a notice that it was backordered.
It took two emails and two calls to get an estimated ship date. Then
I received a confusing email asking what country I wanted it shipped to. I called
them and found out that since this was a brand new item with no stock and
shipped from overseas, that I would have to pay an additional $50 fee. Isn't
that the point of companies like Aircraft Spruce, they maintain stock so the
manufacturer doesn't have to?
Now back to the drawing board on a g meter.
Ken
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
In watching Harpo fool Groucho in the famous double vision mirror scene,
there was one anomly,,,
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip antenna SWR field data 0.50 MIME_BASE64_LATIN RAW: |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
The way I understood it, the performance of the antenna changes
substantially depending on where physically the feedline is connected
along the gamma match, the capacitance of the gamma match is not the
only consideration. I don't have the knowledge in RF stuff to
question this but judging how the gamma match is constructed on the
Archer antenna there is likely some merit to what I was told.
Regards,
Bob
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:10:26 -0400, sportav8r@aol.com <sportav8r@aol.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> Hey, Bob.
>
> Good to hear from you. I hope you found all that useful.
>
> Regarding the antenna and capacitor, your friend may be a bit confused. The
archer antenna has a capacitor in it, made from bakelite and aluminum, just not
adjustable. No doubt he has the capacitance value dialed in close enough for
mass production. Since I was venturing a bit beyond the prototype in my experiments,
using different materials for fabrication, I wanted the tuning feature
to make final adjustments. I used a small air variable cap the swings from
4-22pF, and it's about midway meshed when adjusted for best match. The purpose
of this capacitor is to cancel out the inductive reactance already present
in the arm of the gamma match circuit. At exact antenna resonance, there will
be no reactance left, just pure resistance, which is what we want.
>
> As for fabricating the switch, I could, but will likely snag a suitable switch
or DC relay off eBay and use that instead. I've seen plenty there for less
than the cost of the BNC bulkhead fittings alone. Two comms would be nice, but
that's not to be for me, until the next generation glass panel emerges from
my workshop and goes in the -6A, perhaps in 2006.
>
> -Bill B
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Light reading |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Light reading
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
>
> Rion is our Chapter president, and I now have the classic article posted
> on
> our chapter's web site...
> http://www.eaa105.org/Activities/activities.htm#FlyOutTrips
>
> Just click on "Flying to Oshkos with Dangerous Dan..." It is indeed
> hilarious.
>
> Randy Lervold
>
I've come back to this story several times over the years. It is by far the
"best read" in the archives. There are several subtle wry comments that you
(or at least I) only caught on the second or third reading...
Do not archive
KB
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| Subject: | Re : My XCOM 760 order |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au>
G'day guys,
I don't know if this will help, but you may try contacting Michael Coates
(X-Air and XCOM) at
mcoates@mcp.com.au
or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft/
I have spoken with him a few times and seems like a nice guy, but then, I
haven't bought anything off him either.
Cheers
Martin in Oz
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| Subject: | BMA EFIS Lite G3 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
I've read the archives........
Is there anyone on the list flying a BMA EFIS Lite G3 that cares to
volley a few messages with me?
Thanks - Greg
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I don't see the big problem here. I just completed my BFR the legal way.
It cost me 2X$44 for the CFI and 1X$57 for his plane which included the gas.
So, for less than $150 I got a good review of the basics and a very good CFI
has put his signature in my logbook. No big deal money wise or time wise.
If anything, I am not taking a chance of causing attention being drawn to me
or my fellow experimental buddies.
Before you all thank me, you are all welcomed.
Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"
The sincerest satisfactions in life come in doing and not dodging duty;
in meeting and solving problems, in facing facts;
in flying a virgin plane never flown before.
- Richard L. Evans & Larry R Helming
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: biennial flight review
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
> Warning! Editorial begins here:
>
> There is lots of ambiguity in some of the regs, but this one seems pretty
> clear to my simple CFI mind. To get a BFR you have to have an hour of
> flight instruction and an hour of ground instruction. And with the
> exception of a instrument training with a throw-over yoke,(which I believe
> is a loophole that would work for the Bonanzas and C-195s) you have to
have
> dual controls to give flight instruction, hence a BFR.
>
> If you have an instructor who does it for you in a RV without rear seat
> rudder pedals, that is between, you , him, and the FAA. Lots of people
here
> have said they will do it or they have had it done, but no one has made a
> case that it is legal.
>
> I am not trying to cause a stink, just illuminate to the regs. A bunch of
> CFIs willing to do it, does not make it legal. I doubt anyone would never
> have a problem, till they had a problem, and then the FAA (and possibly
your
> insurance company) will want their pound of flesh. Unless someone can
> weave me a story like the "Instrument Instruction in a Throw-over
airplane"
> I will stand by my interpretation that a BFR in the backseat without
stick,
> rudder, and throttle is illegal.
>
> When there is an accident, the FAA can be, and has been very far reaching.
> i.e. The instructor gets a bust for giving instruction in a non-dual
> control aircraft and the pilot for flying without a BFR.
>
> I am happy to listen to a different interpretation. But more importantly I
> would not give a BFR in a single control airplane because there is
unneeded
> risk associated with it. I have seen very good pilots turn into bumbling
> buffons because I was giving them a BFR or a FAR 135 checkride.
> Checkrideitis I guess.
>
> Unfortunately there is usually a lot of spilled blood before anything
makes
> it to the FARs.
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
OK, so I'm back to square one on the VHF radio scene.
I'm building a VFR panel. Was going to do the XCOM 760 for VHF voice comm.
Now that I'm seriously looking elsewhere, the closest thing to it is the SL 40
because it's the only one I know of which allows you to listen on both frequencies
and has a built in VOX intercom and it had a small profile (all desireable
in my RV8 panel). But it has no provision for an additional input (ie, music)
right? There was some chatter in the archives but some contradictory opinions
on the use of it's intercom. Seems most probably used a separate intercom.
Are there any others with similar features?
If I forget about the built in intercom function, what else is there that allows
dual channel monitoring and I can get repaired in the States?
Microair 760 looks interesting but does it do dual channel monitoring?
thanks in advance,
Lucky
OK, so I'm back to square one on the VHF radio scene.
I'm building a VFR panel. Was going to do the XCOM 760 for VHF voice comm.
Now that I'm seriously looking elsewhere, the closest thing to it is the SL 40
because it's the only one I know of which allows you to listen on both frequencies
and has a built in VOX intercom and it had a small profile (all desireable
in my RV8 panel). But it has no provision for an additional input (ie, music)
right? There was some chatter in the archives but some contradictory opinions
on the use of it's intercom. Seems most probably used a separate intercom.
Are there any otherswith similar features?
If I forget about the built in intercom function, what else is there that allows
dual channel monitoring and I can get repaired in the States?
Microair 760 looks interesting but does it do dual channel monitoring?
thanks in advance,
Lucky
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| Subject: | Re : My XCOM 760 order |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Good on ya! Thanks for the tip! I would hope the original poster would
forward his email to that address and share the response if any with the
group.
Do not archive
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV
4-ever!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Martin Hone
Subject: RV-List: Re : My XCOM 760 order
--> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au>
G'day guys,
I don't know if this will help, but you may try contacting Michael
Coates
(X-Air and XCOM) at
mcoates@mcp.com.au
or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft/
I have spoken with him a few times and seems like a nice guy, but then,
I
haven't bought anything off him either.
Cheers
Martin in Oz
==
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==
==
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
That's a big nugatory on the MA 760. One channel at a time. Have you
looked at the Becker units? They're pricey but they're small.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV
4-ever!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lucky
Subject: RV-List: best vhf comm?
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
OK, so I'm back to square one on the VHF radio scene.
I'm building a VFR panel. Was going to do the XCOM 760 for VHF voice
comm.
Now that I'm seriously looking elsewhere, the closest thing to it is the
SL 40 because it's the only one I know of which allows you to listen on
both frequencies and has a built in VOX intercom and it had a small
profile (all desireable in my RV8 panel). But it has no provision for
an additional input (ie, music) right? There was some chatter in the
archives but some contradictory opinions on the use of it's intercom.
Seems most probably used a separate intercom.
Are there any others with similar features?
If I forget about the built in intercom function, what else is there
that allows dual channel monitoring and I can get repaired in the
States?
Microair 760 looks interesting but does it do dual channel monitoring?
thanks in advance,
Lucky
OK, so I'm back to square one on the VHF radio scene.
I'm building a VFR panel. Was going to do the XCOM 760 for VHF voice
comm.
Now that I'm seriously looking elsewhere, the closest thing to it is the
SL 40 because it's the only one I know of which allows you to listen on
both frequencies and has a built in VOX intercom and it had a small
profile (all desireable in my RV8 panel). But it has no provision for an
additional input (ie, music) right? There was some chatter in the
archives but some contradictory opinions on the use of it's intercom.
Seems most probably used a separate intercom.
Are there any otherswith similar features?
If I forget about the built in intercom function, what else is there
that allows dual channel monitoring and I can get repaired in the
States?
Microair 760 looks interesting but does it do dual channel monitoring?
thanks in advance,
Lucky
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Simmons
Subject: Re: RV-List: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
I posted the message at the bottom of this email concerning an issue with Aircraft
Spruce. Below is the response I received from Jim Irwin:
Ken:
I saw your posting to the RV group regarding the matter of freight from
Europe, and I certainly agree with you that we handled this matter
incorrectly. It is true that this is a new line of instruments but as a
distributor, we are expected to stock them, and you should not have to incur
freight from Europe. We have been working with TL Elektronic on getting
stock of the best selling units, and we expect to have stock soon. Please
let me know if we can reinstate your order and we will either have the unit
drop shipped directly to you from the factory, or if not possible, will ship
as soon as we receive stock. We will pay the freight on the order due to our
incorrect handling of the freight issue.
I do hope that you have been satisfied with the service Aircraft Spruce
has provided in the past and that we will have the opportunity to continue
to serve you. I look forward to your reply and I apologize for this
inconvenience.
Sincerely,
Jim Irwin
President, Aircraft Spruce
Because of the recent postings regarding Aircraft Spruce & some of the "bashing"
going on......
I re-subscribed to this list after being absent for several years. Lately, I've
just used the Matronic's RV list search function & type in "today" to see what's
going on.
But to the issue; over the last six years I've used Aircraft Spruce for thousands
of dollars worth of items for my RV. I can order from their internet catalog
on Sunday evening, and usually "always" count on having the items delivered
by UPS ground on Wednesday. From my experience, the service has been very good,
whether it's only a few bolts or instruments. I just felt I needed to put
in a good word, when one is deserved.
Larry Adamson ---- RV6A, 180HP/ CS prop, slider........ complete except for a tad
of fiberglass work
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip antenna SWR field data |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Bob: one thing I learned playing with the various iterations of this antenna, both
in breadboard and actual wingtip versions, is that there is truth in what
you say. The coax attach point, gamma arm length, the angles (60 degrees is called
for and works well) of the triangle it forms, the manner in which the coax
is dressed away from the antenna, the proximity of nearby objects, and, to
a surprising extent, the length of the counterpoise or base section ("any convenient
length" in the Aeroelectric notes, but NOT true unless grounded to a larger
wing rib or similar ground plane; otherwise, make it at least 24 inches long)
all affect resonant point and the Z-match. More to the point, these factors
affecting the tuning and resonance all can be overcome easily by cut-and-try.
In other words, if you spend a little time with the soldering iron adjusting
the gamma connection point and gamma capacitance, you can get a very low VSWR
at resonance, and if you trim the overall length to experimantally-determined
optimum, you can dial in the resonant point to center of band. It behaves
nicely on the bench and it will shift very little once mounted on the wing, so
much so that test flights to measure the SWR and bandwidth in the air vs near
the ground are really not necessary, IMO.
Back to one earlier remark you made, the _behavior_ in terms of SWR and resonance
varies as noted above. The "performance" will not necessarily be the same
(case in point: a 50-ohm shielded dummy load vs. a real antenna), and testing
to determine how it is affected by the above variables would take a lifetime of
test flights. I think it is reasonable to hope that actual performance will
track well enough with lab measurements of SWR (and thus feedpoint impedance).
If radiation resistance or efficiency is varying all over the place with the
variables you cite, which I have no reason to believe in the case, than it is
true that _performance_ could be hard to predict and replicate.
Respectfully submitted,
-Bill Boyd
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
The way I understood it, the performance of the antenna changes
substantially depending on where physically the feedline is connected
along the gamma match, the capacitance of the gamma match is not the
only consideration. I don't have the knowledge in RF stuff to
question this but judging how the gamma match is constructed on the
Archer antenna there is likely some merit to what I was told.
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
The best argument for getting a BFR done "right" is that your insurance
company will look for any loophole to avoid paying in the event you need it.
Not having a current BFR done to the standards called for in the FAR is a
great reason for them to argue against paying and they might win. Renting a
spam can for an hour with an instructor is a small price to pay to avoid
this risk IMHO. Rent an Decathalon and get some dual acro or get some
instrument dual - its never going to hurt ya.
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
You said it well Doug, It seem to me that the instructors here that are
saying they well do it in a single control aircraft
either are not attending a FIRC or are not reading the regs. I hope that
an accident never happens while they are doing
a flight review.
Jerry
do not archive
Doug Rozendaal wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
>Warning! Editorial begins here:
>
>There is lots of ambiguity in some of the regs, but this one seems pretty
>clear to my simple CFI mind. To get a BFR you have to have an hour of
>flight instruction and an hour of ground instruction. And with the
>exception of a instrument training with a throw-over yoke,(which I believe
>is a loophole that would work for the Bonanzas and C-195s) you have to have
>dual controls to give flight instruction, hence a BFR.
>
>If you have an instructor who does it for you in a RV without rear seat
>rudder pedals, that is between, you , him, and the FAA. Lots of people here
>have said they will do it or they have had it done, but no one has made a
>case that it is legal.
>
>I am not trying to cause a stink, just illuminate to the regs. A bunch of
>CFIs willing to do it, does not make it legal. I doubt anyone would never
>have a problem, till they had a problem, and then the FAA (and possibly your
>insurance company) will want their pound of flesh. Unless someone can
>weave me a story like the "Instrument Instruction in a Throw-over airplane"
>I will stand by my interpretation that a BFR in the backseat without stick,
>rudder, and throttle is illegal.
>
>When there is an accident, the FAA can be, and has been very far reaching.
>i.e. The instructor gets a bust for giving instruction in a non-dual
>control aircraft and the pilot for flying without a BFR.
>
>I am happy to listen to a different interpretation. But more importantly I
>would not give a BFR in a single control airplane because there is unneeded
>risk associated with it. I have seen very good pilots turn into bumbling
>buffons because I was giving them a BFR or a FAR 135 checkride.
>Checkrideitis I guess.
>
>Unfortunately there is usually a lot of spilled blood before anything makes
>it to the FARs.
>
>Tailwinds,
>Doug Rozendaal
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
>
>
>
>>Before my RV was completed, I took my biennial in an N numbered single seat
>>Phantom ultralight. The instructor would stand on the ground and radio to
>>me whatever maneuver he wanted to see done. Its all perfectly legal. You
>>just need to find a CFI with an open mind and a sense of humor.
>>
>>Andy
>>Builder's Bookstore
>>www.buildersbooks.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
How long ago was that Andy? It was legal back in the 70's but not anymore.
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Careful the FAA does read this list.:-)
Jerry
do not archive
Mike Kellems wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kellems" <mkellems@tnweb.com>
>
>Stop in @ LUG in Tennessee - I'll do your BFR with or without dual controls. Mike
Kellems RV4 580RG
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Dear Jim Irwin and other listers,
Let me tell of my experience with A/C Spruce. By far most transactions have
been positive. However, two tries at getting a control cable made for my
front mounted prop governor have cost me about $200 -- down the drain. Now in
the
great scheme of building an airplane that is just a drop in the bucket. But,
I'm tight and I hate the thought of losing 200 bucks. The first failure was
my fault. I ordered the wrong termination. I never said a word about it, no
complaints at all. After all the catalog clearly states, "No refunds on
special order cables."
The second time I thought I was being very clear when I specified the cable
to be just like Van's mixture cable, except for a blue knob and the length.
The person who took the order asked for the ACS part number on the mixture
cable, no other questions. I thought we were on the same wavelength. When the
cable came, it had the wrong termination at the governor end -- the wrong stroke,
I think. It was not like Van's mixture cable. When I called to explain that
the cable was wrong, I got no satisfaction at all. I was not allowed to talk
to a buyer or purchasing agent, only to the girl in customer "service." This
time I was very upset because the error was definitely on the part of A/C
Spruce.
I ordered my 3rd and final prop governor cable direct from ACS in Arizona (a
spinoff from A/C Spruce). The cable was much cheaper than through A/C Spruce,
and I was able to talk directly to the person who built the cable. I got
what I wanted the first time, and with little delay -- less than a week if I
remember correctly.
A/C Spruce would have been money ahead to have just admitted their mistake
and refunded my $112. One customer alone in this business of building airplanes
is worth eating that much profit. I have since purchased thousands of
dollars worth of avionics and instruments from their competitors, just because
of
that one negative transaction. This somehow gave me some satisfaction. I am
now over the loss of the $200. (Actually only $112 should be blamed on A/C
Spruce, since the first $87 was my fault.)
I am now back to buying from A/C Spruce because they really are a pretty good
organization. But, the negative feelings from that one purchase still
surface every time I place an order with them.
BTW does anyone need a couple of mixture cables that won't work?
Regards,
Dan Hopper
RV-7A (A wonderful, wonderful airplane -- more than I ever imagined it could
be!)
N766DH (about 60 hours since 7/7/04)
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| Subject: | Re: biennial flight review |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
RV4 580RG!!!!
Hey Mike.....did you build one of the retract. gear RV 4's? I've seen a few
pictures but never in person. The last one I saw was the fellow in Germany
who did a fantastic job......just curious.....
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kellems" <mkellems@tnweb.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: biennial flight review
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kellems" <mkellems@tnweb.com>
>
> Stop in @ LUG in Tennessee - I'll do your BFR with or without dual
controls. Mike Kellems RV4 580RG
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: N13eer@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:43:23 -0400
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: N13eer@aol.com
> >
> >John,
> >I just had the same issue with my -8. So I put rear rudder peddels in
last weekend and will have to get a throttle in before the end of the month.
Van's has a rudder kit for you but on the -4 your on your own for the
throttle. RV-4 rear seat rudder pedals, Part Number = RSR-PED, Price $105.00
> >
> >
> >Alan Kritzman
> >Cedar Rapid, IA
> >RV-8 N8EM
> >23 months of flying
> >
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: jadecuir@comcast.net
> >
> >How does an RV-4 driver get a review in his own aircraft? Or do I need to
rent an aircraft with complete dual controls?
> >John DeCuir
> >RV-4, N204CP
> >Salinas, CA
> >
> >
> >---
> >
> >
>
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BMA EFIS Lite G3 |
--> RV-List message posted by: <smileyburnett@charter.net>
>
> From: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
> Date: 2004/10/13 Wed PM 10:23:05 GMT
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: BMA EFIS Lite G3
>
> Greg,
I ordered the BMA EFIS lite at OSH along with the A/P components. I may upgrade
to the Sport. I have not yet taken delivery, but just reserved them with a
50% deposit.
Ron Burnett
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I found out about "Smooth Prime" after I had goofed up the finish on my cowl.
You can get it from A/C Spruce in the Poly Fibre section. It goes on with a
roller and is the best thing I have found for filling pinholes in the #$%
&
fibreglas. I HATE that fibre glas stuff !!!
Anyway, the Smooth Prime will sand easily to a smooth surface and a second
coat is easy,if needed.
Try it , You'll LIKE it.
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| Subject: | Warranty time line |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux@bendnet.com>
Re: Aircraft Spruce
Heads up on purchasing your instuments over a period of time.
I thought like Lycoming they would start the warranty period at
time of certification of aircraft, "Wrong" from the time of purchase
it starts. I started purchasing my instruments 2 yrs prior to completion.
I was in a pinch at completion to find the airspeed defective and
Van's was able to overnite one to me faster than A/C. Spruce
refuses to warranty it & insists on sending back to manufacturer
and leave it up to them for resolve. I like many others have spent
thousands with Mr. Irwins Company no more....I built (2) aircraft
since 1993 they are off my list now...Beware....Mike Comeaux
P.S. 6 phone calls to customer service & never a return call....
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
In a message dated 10/12/04 9:37:26 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
abfbrinlee@att.net writes:
> >>1. Why do the plans/manual call for countersinking the top of E-705
> >and dimpling the bottom. Why not just dimple both?
> >>I think the thing is just too thin to countersink. Tried practicing on
> >some thin scrap and as soon as the cutter hits, the hole opens up and the
> >bit chatters all over the place.
> >
This happens with almost all countersunk holes to some extent. You can
prevent it by clamping a strip of wood (I like oak) behind the part you're
countersinking. You drill and cleco into it (along the row of holes) making good
pilot holes for the countersinking tool. I did this a lot while building my
plane.
Also, it is not good to countersink into the soft hinge material because it
makes a weak place for the shop head to hold on to. When I had to do this, I
made some small washers out of .032" 2024-T3 and put behind the hinge material
to make the joints stronger.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying 60 hours now)
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| Subject: | Re: Re : My XCOM 760 order |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
> Martin wrote.......you may try contacting Michael Coates (X-Air and XCOM)
at
>
> mcoates@mcp.com.au
>
> or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft/
>
I have recently ordered, received and installed the XCOM/760. I also
ordered the wiring harness as a "kit". It took a couple of hours to
complete the buildup. The plug is a little snug for 15 pins so I may
replace the jacket with a local roomier one. I am very happy with the
installation and operation.
The two addresses that Martin supplied work, and should be used. I have
used both. I would usually send in the evening - and receive a response the
next day (he's beginning work while I'm going to bed). About a week after
sending the order using his website I sent him an email asking for a rough
guess as to when I could expect receipt. He replied that it was probably
being processed that day and I could expect delivery around the following
Wednesday. I received it in a remote area of Canada one day later than his
rough estimate.
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