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1. 12:48 AM - Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter ()
2. 01:25 AM - Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint (Neil Henderson)
3. 02:15 AM - Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter - SAFETY (Jim Jewell)
4. 03:10 AM - Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint (Dana Overall)
5. 05:22 AM - Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint ()
6. 06:08 AM - Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint (923te)
7. 06:56 AM - Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint ()
8. 08:00 AM - Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce (Crosley, Rich)
9. 08:21 AM - Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce (Scott Bilinski)
10. 08:24 AM - Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter (John Ammeter)
11. 08:58 AM - Re: Fuel Tanks (Evan and Megan Johnson)
12. 09:00 AM - Experimental goes down near Chicago (Dane Sheahen)
13. 09:14 AM - Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago (Skylor Piper)
14. 09:18 AM - Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago (Scott Bilinski)
15. 09:26 AM - Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago (Marty)
16. 09:31 AM - (David Fenstermacher)
17. 09:43 AM - Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
18. 09:57 AM - Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago (David Burton)
19. 10:06 AM - Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago (Scott Bilinski)
20. 10:18 AM - > More flycutting tips (Jack Blomgren)
21. 10:26 AM - Re: Re : My XCOM 760 order - off topic (Mickey Coggins)
22. 10:43 AM - Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter - SAFETY (Terry Watson)
23. 11:45 AM - Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint (Dana Overall)
24. 01:08 PM - Re: Large Fly Cutter (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
25. 01:08 PM - cowl to fuselage joint (Jeff Dowling)
26. 01:10 PM - Re: best vhf comm? (John Danielson)
27. 01:16 PM - Re: Large Fly Cutter (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
28. 01:55 PM - Re: Re : My XCOM 760 order - off topic (Scott VanArtsdalen)
29. 03:34 PM - CFI BFR (Wheeler North)
30. 04:09 PM - Re: CFI BFR (Jerry Springer)
31. 04:11 PM - Mounting of Bendix Fuel Servo (Emrath)
32. 04:39 PM - Wick's Open house (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
33. 06:06 PM - AZKO primer over zinc chromate primer (David Fenstermacher)
34. 10:30 PM - engine gaskets - grease? (thomas a. sargent)
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| Subject: | Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> Good idea about the foot switch (don't ask how I know). I also found out
the
> hard way that if you run a flycutter at too high a speed or apply to much
> feed pressure you'll harden the material and make it that much harder to
cut
> through. Go slow and keep it cool.
>
I also use a light oil. That seems to help, as well.
If one clamps down the pieces being cut, there isn't much of a need for a
foot switch for safety. One hand should be free for hitting the switch. A
foot switch would be nice, though.
Jim Sears in KY
EAA Tech Counselor
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Neil Henderson" <neil.mo51@btopenworld.com>
A tip I picked up when visiting a professional aircraft painter recently is to
use a automotive 2 pack primer/filler. Mix a batch without any thinners and wait
until it starts to go off, gets sort of stiff, then apply it with a rubber
squeegee, the sort you use for grouting tiles in you bathroom. Press it in hard
and try not to leave excess on the surface. Rubs down a breeze and you can prime
up in hours not days, You might need a couple of go's to get all the pin
holes. Worked well for me.
Neil Henderson RV9 - On the way to the airport for final assembly.
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| Subject: | Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter - SAFETY |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Safety 101
It's worth saying again:
ALWAYS use a drill press for fly cutting.
When using a fly cutter in a drill press always use clamps to hold the work
piece firmly in place on the table.
When possible (a large enough work piece) situate the work piece such that
it is resting against the drill press post.
In the case of shorter pieces, use a separate clamp to act as a stop to keep
the work piece from spinning. These work pieces should held down to the
drill press table with two or more clamps.
A drill press vice should be used for the smaller pieces and it gets clamps
holding it in place.
Always manually rotate the cutter 360 degrees by hand to test for safely
cutter clearance and accuracy before starting the drill press.
Have a healthy respect for fly cutting as it might well be the most
dangerous means of making holes.
Putting clamps carefully in place takes less time than treating wounds.
NEVER use a fly cutter free hand, with a hand held drill motor.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: <sears@searnet.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: > Re: Large Fly Cutter
> --> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
>
>
>> Good idea about the foot switch (don't ask how I know). I also found out
> the
>> hard way that if you run a flycutter at too high a speed or apply to much
>> feed pressure you'll harden the material and make it that much harder to
> cut
>> through. Go slow and keep it cool.
>>
>
> I also use a light oil. That seems to help, as well.
>
> If one clamps down the pieces being cut, there isn't much of a need for a
> foot switch for safety. One hand should be free for hitting the switch.
> A
> foot switch would be nice, though.
>
> Jim Sears in KY
> EAA Tech Counselor
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: <sears@searnet.com>
In fact, I'd probably not use it on a glass airplane, either.
>Sorry. Old Dana Overall and I still disagree about the stuff; but, I'll
>stick to my story. :-)
>
Can't resist:-) In my former life as plastic airplane builder I had the
occasion to host two national gatherings. Prior to the first one, Smooth
Prime and SuperFil were new to the market. I used the product then met with
the owner of the company and agreed to do seminars on the application at the
national glass gatherings. Here's what I found. Follow the instructions.
Use a roller. Do not sand (especially wet sand between applications as Jim
did....because "you always wet sand":-) until several coats have been
applied. No, I have never had to wait for weeks. In the summer the
material dries as fast as you can apply it. The primary advantage of Smooth
Prime is pinhole and weave filling. Roll it on hard, press it into the
pinholes and weave. Let it dry then sand all the way back down to resin or
gel coat leaving only the former pinholes and weave with product in them
then prime with your choice of primer.............what did I say, sand it
all off and prime with something else. YES. Use it for pinhole and weave
filling, that is where it does it's best. It's been a couple years since I
was in the plastic world but it was the best I had found up to that point.
There my be other products out there now but the water base, easy sanding
qualities of Smooth Prime were an advantage over other applications at that
time.
Follow the instructions........................Ol Jim has a hard time doing
that, wet sanding, final drilling and deburring:-)
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit
13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> Follow the instructions........................Ol Jim has a hard time
doing
> that, wet sanding, final drilling and deburring:-)
>
I find that insulting, to say the least. I did follow the instructions,
except for the sanding. Nowhere in the instruction manual did it say
anything about wet or dry sanding, that I could find. With that, and the
fact that most of us wet sand for a nice finish with less dust to deal with,
I wet sanded the product. As a result, the product did not meet my
expectations. I told that to Dana when I used the product after I'd wasted
more than a week on using it and removing it from my airplane when I was
prepping for paint at my local FBO. Every time I've discussed this product,
and he's defended it, he's told that I don't follow instructions. I read
the manual and followed the instructions that were available. After he'd
told me about the dry sanding, I went back and reviewed the manual and
didn't see anything about dry sanding in the manual. Since there was
nothing in it about dry sanding, and the fact I was not privy to the sanding
limitations because I don't build plastic airplanes, I made the assumption
that wet or dry sanding was OK. The product did not meet my expectations
and still doesn't. I won't recommend Smooth Prime to anyone.
As for the match drilling and deburring, one can come to my shop today and
see that all of my wing skins, etc. have been match drilled on my new -7A.
I've not deburred and dimpled them because I've not reached that point in
the manual. My discussions on match drilling a while back were to incite
discussion on the match drilling vs no match drilling contraversy. As I
worked on my project, I could see there is no way one could go without match
drilling because the holes don't line up for it, as is discussed in the
manual. If anyone remembers, the main crust of the conversation concerned
cracking in the holes, not the alignment of the holes. Since I started
building my -6A in 1992, I've deburred holes. I still do it because I want
the rivets to seat as nicely as possible. However, there is also
contraversy on that subject. One can find support for either.
Maybe Dana was just kidding; but, I didn't find it funny. I tried to warn a
builder about a product I didn't find as good to use as others have. I
still warn folks about that product and won't use it, myself. I did find a
PPG fast fill primer that works nicely and will use it, or a similar
product, on future fiberglass finishing. That product can be wet or dry
sanded, by the way.
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
RV-7A #70317 (Building wings. Fuse ordered)
EAA Tech Counselor
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
I'd like to offer my experience with smooth prime for what it's worth. I
have some 150 hours or so working with the pruduct over several years.
I too was a glass plane builder for several years. I was building a Pulsar.
When Smooth Prime first came out we Pulsar builders had Poly Fiber come to
our annual flyins several times and demostrate the product. I believe the
persons name was John Goldenbaum. Anyway, it was very impressive and several
of us bought it including me. We were told to apply the product with
regular paint spray equipment. In fact John used an Axis turbine HVLP
machine which he highly recommended. Because of his recommendation many of
us bought a turbine HVLP machine including me. We were told to WET SAND
between applications. As I recall the first application manuals stated these
recommendations and had pictures of the turbine and WET Sanding. It was soon
discovered by a Pulsar builder that the product could be rolled on and that
wet sanding was taking a step backwards. The second time John came to our
flyin he recommended not to use the turbine sprayer and sort of apologized
to those of us who bought turbines to apply his product based on his
recommendation. As time went on PolyFiber made changes to the product. They
reformulated it and added another componenet that was to be added just prior
to using it. This component was to cause it to set stronger. I believe they
made two changes during the first few years and PolyFiber was very good to
replace existing stock at charging only shipping in some cases. I was told
to throw out what I had or use it on the garage floor. They then came out
with a clear epoxy product to be used prior to smooth prime to help "bridge"
the pin holes. Of course this could not be used on top of smooth prime.
As far as waiting before painting over smooth prime, all the Pulsar builders
would highly recommend it. And not only a few weeks but wait several months
and leave it somewhere where it gets hot in the summer. Several builders who
did not allow several months for the product to cure began to experience
shrinking of the smooth prime which had various effects from seeing the
weave appear in the paint to blistering, to paint coming off. Now I have
not kept up with the latest from Polyfiber so they may have made more
improvements since I was using it about 3 years ago. Many of us Pulsar
builders were also sold on the water based paint products offered by
PolyFiber and I understand they removed these from the market. They just did
not stick very long after one started flying. The water based paint came off
in sheets.
When I finish my RV cowl I may review the current state of poly fiber's
produsts but I will be much more interested in what the PROVEN technology is
in the automotive world. I believe those Pulsar builders that stayed with
the "OLD" technology, k36 I believe it was, still have excellent paint work
with out any of the problems so many of us experienced with smooth prime.
Your Fellow RV Enthusiast,
Ned
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! That was a good report and didn't
insult anyone. It seems other builders have had bad experiences, as well.
The K36 worked well for me and is my product of choice. I also see that you
emphasized wet sanding. I really appreciate that.
Jim Sears in KY
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----- Original Message -----
From: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint
> --> RV-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
>
> I'd like to offer my experience with smooth prime for what it's worth. I
> have some 150 hours or so working with the pruduct over several years.
>
> I too was a glass plane builder for several years. I was building a
Pulsar.
> When Smooth Prime first came out we Pulsar builders had Poly Fiber come to
> our annual flyins several times and demostrate the product. I believe the
> persons name was John Goldenbaum. Anyway, it was very impressive and
several
> of us bought it including me. We were told to apply the product with
> regular paint spray equipment. In fact John used an Axis turbine HVLP
> machine which he highly recommended. Because of his recommendation many of
> us bought a turbine HVLP machine including me. We were told to WET SAND
> between applications. As I recall the first application manuals stated
these
> recommendations and had pictures of the turbine and WET Sanding. It was
soon
> discovered by a Pulsar builder that the product could be rolled on and
that
> wet sanding was taking a step backwards. The second time John came to our
> flyin he recommended not to use the turbine sprayer and sort of apologized
> to those of us who bought turbines to apply his product based on his
> recommendation. As time went on PolyFiber made changes to the product.
They
> reformulated it and added another componenet that was to be added just
prior
> to using it. This component was to cause it to set stronger. I believe
they
> made two changes during the first few years and PolyFiber was very good to
> replace existing stock at charging only shipping in some cases. I was told
> to throw out what I had or use it on the garage floor. They then came out
> with a clear epoxy product to be used prior to smooth prime to help
"bridge"
> the pin holes. Of course this could not be used on top of smooth prime.
>
> As far as waiting before painting over smooth prime, all the Pulsar
builders
> would highly recommend it. And not only a few weeks but wait several
months
> and leave it somewhere where it gets hot in the summer. Several builders
who
> did not allow several months for the product to cure began to experience
> shrinking of the smooth prime which had various effects from seeing the
> weave appear in the paint to blistering, to paint coming off. Now I have
> not kept up with the latest from Polyfiber so they may have made more
> improvements since I was using it about 3 years ago. Many of us Pulsar
> builders were also sold on the water based paint products offered by
> PolyFiber and I understand they removed these from the market. They just
did
> not stick very long after one started flying. The water based paint came
off
> in sheets.
>
> When I finish my RV cowl I may review the current state of poly fiber's
> produsts but I will be much more interested in what the PROVEN technology
is
> in the automotive world. I believe those Pulsar builders that stayed with
> the "OLD" technology, k36 I believe it was, still have excellent paint
work
> with out any of the problems so many of us experienced with smooth prime.
>
> Your Fellow RV Enthusiast,
> Ned
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich" <RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
Over the last 25 years I've built two airplanes and owned 4 and used Spruce
products all along the way with great results. I order on line and in three
or four days there is a package on my front porch. I do live in California
which probably helps with the transit time. They ship their catalogue for
free and it alone is worth a fortune in all the information and data it
supplies. Give them a try and see how they work for you.
Satisfied Customer
Rich Crosley
Palmdale, CA
RV-8, N948RC, Painting
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
ACS has been very, very good to me. Matter of fact, their customer service
has amazed me several times in the past couple of years. The only complaint
I can think of is you had better know what you want and not expect the
person on the phone to help you select an item. Do your homework, and get
what you need, works every time for me.
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich"
><RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
>
>Over the last 25 years I've built two airplanes and owned 4 and used Spruce
>products all along the way with great results. I order on line and in three
>or four days there is a package on my front porch. I do live in California
>which probably helps with the transit time. They ship their catalogue for
>free and it alone is worth a fortune in all the information and data it
>supplies. Give them a try and see how they work for you.
>
>Satisfied Customer
>Rich Crosley
>Palmdale, CA
>RV-8, N948RC, Painting
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Ammeter <jammeter@comcast.net>
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:46:41 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
>
>
>> Good idea about the foot switch (don't ask how I know). I also found out
>the
>> hard way that if you run a flycutter at too high a speed or apply to much
>> feed pressure you'll harden the material and make it that much harder to
>cut
>> through. Go slow and keep it cool.
>>
>
>I also use a light oil. That seems to help, as well.
>
>If one clamps down the pieces being cut, there isn't much of a need for a
>foot switch for safety. One hand should be free for hitting the switch. A
>foot switch would be nice, though.
>
>Jim Sears in KY
>EAA Tech Counselor
>
>
I used two clamps, foot switch and slow speed....
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John Ammeter
RV-6 serial #20094
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Neal, you need that inspection hole to inspect the AN fittings on the fuel
pick up. Those guys can (and do) loosen up on occasion. However, what you
can do is install the pick up fitting for the RV 10. It is a machined
aluminum deal, a lot like the quick drain flange, that mounts in the lower
corner of the inboard rib (on the inside of the tank). Then you just thread
a screened pick up right into it. Its pretty neat and you dont have to cut
the inspection cover....The RV10 does not have an inspection cover at all.
One other comment, you will hate trying to cut an inspection hole in at a
later date if it becomes necessary. Just think big fly-cutter on an already
finished tank :( I will post the part numbers for the pick up bits for the
10 when I get a chance to look at the plans.
Cheers...Evan
RV 10 wings
(530)351-1776
www.evansaviationproducts.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Neal E Capt AU/PC" <Neal.George@maxwell.af.mil>
Subject: RV-List: Fuel Tanks
> --> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
>
> Listers -
>
> Given that I have Van's capacitance fuel level senders and no flop tubes,
is
> there any reason to put a 6-inch hole in a perfectly good, solid inboard
> rib?
>
> It's not that I'm opposed to making the access panel, I just don't see the
> point.
>
> Future access seems a specious argument - if I need inside at some future
> time for some as-yet undefined reason, I can cut the hole when it's
needed,
> rather than doing it now just because the plans say to...
>
> Thanks
>
> Neal
> RV-7 N8ZG
> (starting tanks)
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Experimental goes down near Chicago |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
The news reported an experimental place crashing west of Chicago in Joliet.
The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any information on it?
Dane Sheahen
RV8a N8383RV
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago |
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
********************************************************************************
** Report created 10/15/2004 Record 3
**
********************************************************************************
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 85MM Make/Model: RV6
Description: RV-6
Date: 10/14/2004 Time: 1955
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid
Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: JOLIET State: IL
Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT ON TAKEOFF, CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN
CIRCUMSTANCES, THE ONE PERSON ON
BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, JOLIET, IL
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0
Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0
Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0
Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: NOT REPORTED
OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Take-off
Operation: General Aviation
Departed: ERIE, PA Dep Date:
Dep. Time:
Destination: JOLIET, IL Flt Plan: UNK
Wx Briefing: U
Last Radio Cont: UNK
Last Clearance: UNK
FAA FSDO: WEST CHICAGO, IL (GL03)
Entry date: 10/15/2004
--- Dane Sheahen <dane@mutualace.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen"
> <dane@mutualace.com>
>
> The news reported an experimental place crashing
> west of Chicago in Joliet.
> The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any
> information on it?
>
> Dane Sheahen
> RV8a N8383RV
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
You are correct, go here: http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/A_1015_N.txt
At 11:18 AM 10/15/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
>
>The news reported an experimental place crashing west of Chicago in Joliet.
>The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any information on it?
>
>Dane Sheahen
>RV8a N8383RV
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Experimental goes down near Chicago |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
I googled it and came up with this.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-plane15.html
and
http://www.nbc5.com/news/3823407/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65192
Not many details right now.
Marty
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" <dane@mutualace.com>
The news reported an experimental place crashing west of Chicago in Joliet.
The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any information on it?
Dane Sheahen
RV8a N8383RV
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
I started priming with the zinc chromate rattle cans.
It sticks well, but just doesn't stand up to the handling during assembly, so I
switched to AKZO.
This is tough stuff and not that much more work to apply.
I was wondering if anyone sees a problem with putting the AZKO over the zinc chromate
(after prepping the zinc chromate surface, of course).
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
There used to be a regular RV list participant named Ken Smith building an RV6
from there.
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper
>
> ********************************************************************************
> ** Report created 10/15/2004 Record 3
> **
> ********************************************************************************
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 85MM Make/Model: RV6
> Description: RV-6
> Date: 10/14/2004 Time: 1955
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid
> Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
>
> LOCATION
> City: JOLIET State: IL
> Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> ACFT ON TAKEOFF, CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN
> CIRCUMSTANCES, THE ONE PERSON ON
> BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, JOLIET, IL
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0
> Min: 0 Unk:
> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0
> Min: 0 Unk:
> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0
> Min: 0 Unk:
>
> WEATHER: NOT REPORTED
>
>
>
>
>
>
> OTHER DATA
> Activity: Unknown Phase: Take-off
> Operation: General Aviation
>
> Departed: ERIE, PA Dep Date:
> Dep. Time:
> Destination: JOLIET, IL Flt Plan: UNK
> Wx Briefing: U
> Last Radio Cont: UNK
> Last Clearance: UNK
>
> FAA FSDO: WEST CHICAGO, IL (GL03)
> Entry date: 10/15/2004
> --- Dane Sheahen wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen"
> >
> >
> > The news reported an experimental place crashing
> > west of Chicago in Joliet.
> > The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any
> > information on it?
> >
> > Dane Sheahen
> > RV8a N8383RV
> >
> >
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> __________________________________
>
>
>
>
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>
There used to be a regular RV list participant named Ken Smith building an RV6
from there.
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <SKYLOR4@YAHOO.COM>
********************************************************************************
** Report created 10/15/2004 Record 3
**
********************************************************************************
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 85MM Make/Model: RV6
Description: RV-6
Date: 10/14/2004 Time: 1955
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid
Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: JOLIET State: IL
Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT ON TAKEOFF, CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN
CIRCUMSTANCES, THE ONE PERSON ON
BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, JOLIET, IL
INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 1
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0
Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0
Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0
Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: NOT REPORTED
OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Take-off
Operation: General Aviation
Departed: ERIE, PA Dep Date:
Dep. Time:
Destination: JOLIET, IL Flt Plan: UNK
Wx Briefing: U
Last Radio Cont: UNK
Last Clearance: UNK
FAA FSDO: WEST CHICAGO, IL (GL03)
Entry date: 10/15/2004
--- Dane Sheahen <DANE@MUTUALACE.COM>wrote:
-- RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen"
<DANE@MUTUALACE.COM>
The news reported an experimental place crashing
west of Chicago in Joliet.
The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any
information on it?
Dane Sheahen
RV8a N8383RV
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
> There used to be a regular RV list participant named Ken Smith building an
RV6 from there.
The easiest way to check an N# is simply put it into Google's search field.
The first hit will be the FAA database listing for that AC. In this case:
http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=85mm
Owner listed as Mike Malone.
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| Subject: | Re: Experimental goes down near Chicago |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Its registered to:
Serial Number20034 Type RegistrationIndividual
Manufacturer NameMALONE MARK S Certificate Issue Date07/07/1997
ModelVANS RV6A StatusValid
Type AircraftFixed Wing Single-EngineType EngineReciprocating
Pending Number ChangeNone DealerNo
Date Change AuthorizedNone Mode S Code52723036
MFR YearNone Fractional OwnerNO
Registered Owner
NameMALONE MARK S
Street3939 E WASHITA ST
CitySPRINGFIELD StateMISSOURI Zip Code65809-2938
CountyGREENE
CountryUNITED STATES
At 04:43 PM 10/15/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
>
>There used to be a regular RV list participant named Ken Smith building an
>RV6 from there.
>
>do not archive
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper
> >
> >
> ********************************************************************************
>
> > ** Report created 10/15/2004 Record 3
> > **
> >
> ********************************************************************************
>
> >
> > IDENTIFICATION
> > Regis#: 85MM Make/Model: RV6
> > Description: RV-6
> > Date: 10/14/2004 Time: 1955
> >
> > Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid
> > Air: N Missing: N
> > Damage: Unknown
> >
> > LOCATION
> > City: JOLIET State: IL
> > Country: US
> >
> > DESCRIPTION
> > ACFT ON TAKEOFF, CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN
> > CIRCUMSTANCES, THE ONE PERSON ON
> > BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, JOLIET, IL
> >
> > INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1
> > # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0
> > Min: 0 Unk:
> > # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0
> > Min: 0 Unk:
> > # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0
> > Min: 0 Unk:
> >
> > WEATHER: NOT REPORTED
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OTHER DATA
> > Activity: Unknown Phase: Take-off
> > Operation: General Aviation
> >
> > Departed: ERIE, PA Dep Date:
> > Dep. Time:
> > Destination: JOLIET, IL Flt Plan: UNK
> > Wx Briefing: U
> > Last Radio Cont: UNK
> > Last Clearance: UNK
> >
> > FAA FSDO: WEST CHICAGO, IL (GL03)
> > Entry date: 10/15/2004
> > --- Dane Sheahen wrote:
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen"
> > >
> > >
> > > The news reported an experimental place crashing
> > > west of Chicago in Joliet.
> > > The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any
> > > information on it?
> > >
> > > Dane Sheahen
> > > RV8a N8383RV
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Contributions
> > > any other
> > > Forums.
> > >
> > > http://www.matronics.com/chat
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>There used to be a regular RV list participant named Ken Smith building an
>RV6 from there.
>
>do not archive
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <SKYLOR4@YAHOO.COM>
>
>
>********************************************************************************
>
> ** Report created 10/15/2004 Record 3
> **
>
>********************************************************************************
>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 85MM Make/Model: RV6
> Description: RV-6
> Date: 10/14/2004 Time: 1955
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid
> Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
>
> LOCATION
> City: JOLIET State: IL
> Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> ACFT ON TAKEOFF, CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN
> CIRCUMSTANCES, THE ONE PERSON ON
> BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, JOLIET, IL
>
> INJURY DATA
> Total Fatal: 1
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0
> Min: 0 Unk:
> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0
> Min: 0 Unk:
> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0
> Min: 0 Unk:
>
> WEATHER: NOT REPORTED
>
>
> OTHER DATA
> Activity: Unknown Phase: Take-off
> Operation: General Aviation
>
> Departed: ERIE, PA Dep Date:
> Dep. Time:
> Destination: JOLIET, IL Flt Plan: UNK
> Wx Briefing: U
> Last Radio Cont: UNK
> Last Clearance: UNK
>
> FAA FSDO: WEST CHICAGO, IL (GL03)
> Entry date: 10/15/2004
> --- Dane Sheahen <DANE@MUTUALACE.COM>wrote:
>
> -- RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen"
> <DANE@MUTUALACE.COM>
>
> The news reported an experimental place crashing
> west of Chicago in Joliet.
> The pictures look that of a RV6. Does have any
>
> information on it?
>
> Dane Sheahen
> RV8a N8383RV
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
> s: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | > More flycutting tips |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Blomgren" <jackanet@hotmail.com>
For thicker flycutting, and/or to reduce load and prevent sometime jagged or
distorted breakthrough, turn the workpiece over and reclamp when the cutting
tool is about halfway through. The pilot hole maintains concentricity.
Also quite helpful for wood and plastics.
Jack
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| Subject: | Re : My XCOM 760 order - off topic |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi,
For those overly aggressive spam filters, here are some
things you can do to help your E-mail get through:
1) Don't use HTML in the E-mail. Pretty fonts, imbedded
images (stationary), and other fluffy stuff are
favorites for spam filters.
2) Don't send an attachment unless it is expected and the
other party is looking for it. Most viruses are spread
with binary attachments, and many spam filters are a bit
paranoid about them.
3) *Always* use a good subject. A subject like "order" is
one that attracts spam filters, as is any other one or two
word subject. Put something useful in there like
"XCOM 760 order questions - Smith - #12345", assuming
your order number is 12345 and your name is Smith.
4) Ensure that you don't have a typo in the destination
E-mail address. This is the *number one* cause of lost
E-mail. Probably the same at the post offices of the world.
I've been sending and receiving E-mail for decades and have
run many ISP-class E-mail systems for thousands of users.
While recent attempts to reduce the amount of spam seem to
be hurting E-mail more than spam itself (IMHO), I believe
it is not accurate to just say that E-mail is not reliable.
If you're consistently not getting your E-mail, get a better
ISP.
Mickey
At 18:19 14-10-04, Scott VanArtsdalen wrote:
-----Start of Original Message-----
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>
>Just an observation in general and not a jab at anyone in particular.
>In real life, I run an email server. MS Exchange 2003 to be specific
>and I also run a spam filter on it. So what? Just this: email should
>not be considered a reliable communication medium. I have people
>complain to me all the time that they aren't receiving email from
>somebody. The email can get dropped by the ISP, it can get caught in my
>spam filter, or it can go who knows where. The point is that if the
>communication is important, pick up the phone and call. You'll exchange
>a heck of a lot more information, a heckuva lot faster.
>
>--
>Scott VanArtsdalen
>RV-4 N311SV
>4-ever!
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: > Re: Large Fly Cutter - SAFETY |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
OK, Jim's right of course. NEVER use a fly cutter without a drill press.
But I remember a flight towards the end of my training in a T-37 when my
instructor, Capt. Monty O. Lillard told me that I should NEVER do a low
altitude aileron roll, but "just in case you do, I had better show you how
so you don't kill yourself. Cinch up your shoulder harness." My head still
hit the canopy when he slammed the stick forward as we rolled inverted.
So, just in case you ever decide to use a fly cutter without a drill press,
use a hand drill with a torque adjustment, like my 18 volt DeWalt. Dial the
torque down so anytime the cutting gets difficult, it free wheels, or
releases the torque on the fly cutter. The fly cutter is very prone to
grabbing or digging in, especially when not precisely perpendicular to the
surface, as it can be with a drill press.
Anyway, I have heard that this works.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Jewell
Subject: Re: RV-List: > Re: Large Fly Cutter - SAFETY
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Safety 101
It's worth saying again:
ALWAYS use a drill press for fly cutting.
When using a fly cutter in a drill press always use clamps to hold the work
piece firmly in place on the table.
When possible (a large enough work piece) situate the work piece such that
it is resting against the drill press post.
In the case of shorter pieces, use a separate clamp to act as a stop to keep
the work piece from spinning. These work pieces should held down to the
drill press table with two or more clamps.
A drill press vice should be used for the smaller pieces and it gets clamps
holding it in place.
Always manually rotate the cutter 360 degrees by hand to test for safely
cutter clearance and accuracy before starting the drill press.
Have a healthy respect for fly cutting as it might well be the most
dangerous means of making holes.
Putting clamps carefully in place takes less time than treating wounds.
NEVER use a fly cutter free hand, with a hand held drill motor.
Jim in Kelowna
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| Subject: | Re: >Re: Preparing the engine cowl for paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: <sears@searnet.com>
>
>Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! That was a good report and didn't
>insult anyone.
Jim, I hope you didn't take my attempt at humor........wet
sanding.........not following instructions seriously. It was meant to be
taken lightly in the context of my experience with Smooth Prime. If it was
taken wrong, I publically extend an apology.
Heck folks I gotta fly with this guy..........20 miles apart...........
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit
13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Large Fly Cutter |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
In a message dated 10/14/04 5:17:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jdpainter@jpainter.org writes:
>
> Anyone have a good source for a large fly cutter (for cutting root tank
> ribs).
> I'm on my second cutter now and both are to small to ...errr...cut it. The
> local Home Depot/Lowe's doesn't seem to sell one that large.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Jamie
>
> do not archive
>
>
Won't that cause the tank to leak?
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| Subject: | cowl to fuselage joint |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Its time to figure out how Im going to make the joint between my cowl and fuse
match up. The cowl is high in several places. Ive already drilled the hinge
on the fuse side once and am reluctant to do this again. It really needs more
spacers. Im thinking about adding fiberglass over the fuse and building it up
to match the cowl but Im concerned about the glass/filler cracking over time.
Any suggestions?
Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
140 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
I too recommend the SL-40. It's a great radio.
If you are in a pinch, the built in intercom is OK.
I would go with a panel mount intercom, with music input.
John Danielson
RV-6
Harmon Rocket-hope to start soon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Rowbotham
Subject: RE: RV-List: best vhf comm?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
<crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Lucky,
We have the SL-40 and are very pleased with it and would recommend it.
It
takes up very little space and the alternate freq monitoring is very
handy.
We also have a PS 1000 II intercom and find it gives a lot of
flexibility -
adjusting for different headsets etc.
Give me a call if you'd like to discuss further.
Chuck Rowbotham
RV-8A (300+ hours)
>From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: best vhf comm?
>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:44:08 +0000 0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART
>Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary 0.01 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE
>Received: by and from look like IP addresses
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
>
>OK, so I'm back to square one on the VHF radio scene.
>
>I'm building a VFR panel. Was going to do the XCOM 760 for VHF voice
comm.
>
>Now that I'm seriously looking elsewhere, the closest thing to it is
the SL
>40 because it's the only one I know of which allows you to listen on
both
>frequencies and has a built in VOX intercom and it had a small profile
(all
>desireable in my RV8 panel). But it has no provision for an additional
>input (ie, music) right? There was some chatter in the archives but
some
>contradictory opinions on the use of it's intercom. Seems most
probably
>used a separate intercom.
>
>Are there any others with similar features?
>
>If I forget about the built in intercom function, what else is there
that
>allows dual channel monitoring and I can get repaired in the States?
>
>Microair 760 looks interesting but does it do dual channel monitoring?
>
>thanks in advance,
>Lucky
>
>OK, so I'm back to square one on the VHF radio scene.
>
>I'm building a VFR panel. Was going to do the XCOM 760 for VHF voice
comm.
>
>Now that I'm seriously looking elsewhere, the closest thing to it is
the SL
>40 because it's the only one I know of which allows you to listen on
both
>frequencies and has a built in VOX intercom and it had a small profile
(all
>desireable in my RV8 panel). But it has no provision for an additional
>input (ie, music) right? There was some chatter in the archives but
some
>contradictory opinions on the use of it's intercom. Seems most probably
>used a separate intercom.
>
>Are there any otherswith similar features?
>
>If I forget about the built in intercom function, what else is there
that
>allows dual channel monitoring and I can get repaired in the States?
>
>Microair 760 looks interesting but does it do dual channel monitoring?
>
>thanks in advance,
>Lucky
>
>
http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: Large Fly Cutter |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
In a message dated 10/15/04 3:11:20 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
Hopperdhh@aol.com writes:
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> --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/14/04 5:17:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> jdpainter@jpainter.org writes:
>
> >
> >Anyone have a good source for a large fly cutter (for cutting root tank
> >ribs).
> >I'm on my second cutter now and both are to small to ...errr...cut it. The
> >local Home Depot/Lowe's doesn't seem to sell one that large.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >Jamie
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >
>
> Won't that cause the tank to leak?
>
>
>
That was dumb. I remember now that there is a plate over that hole. I am
afraid of flycutters, anyway I don't have one either -- probably that's a good
thing.
I just used my air drill and drilled a circle of holes. That probably took
less time than it would take me to find my clamps. Use some small diagonal
cutters to clip between the holes, and file it smooth.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying about 60 hours now.)
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| Subject: | Re : My XCOM 760 order - off topic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
You mean there's a good ISP out there? :-)
Do not archive
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV
4-ever!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mickey Coggins
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re : My XCOM 760 order - off topic
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi,
For those overly aggressive spam filters, here are some
things you can do to help your E-mail get through:
1) Don't use HTML in the E-mail. Pretty fonts, imbedded
images (stationary), and other fluffy stuff are
favorites for spam filters.
2) Don't send an attachment unless it is expected and the
other party is looking for it. Most viruses are spread
with binary attachments, and many spam filters are a bit
paranoid about them.
3) *Always* use a good subject. A subject like "order" is
one that attracts spam filters, as is any other one or two
word subject. Put something useful in there like
"XCOM 760 order questions - Smith - #12345", assuming
your order number is 12345 and your name is Smith.
4) Ensure that you don't have a typo in the destination
E-mail address. This is the *number one* cause of lost
E-mail. Probably the same at the post offices of the world.
I've been sending and receiving E-mail for decades and have
run many ISP-class E-mail systems for thousands of users.
While recent attempts to reduce the amount of spam seem to
be hurting E-mail more than spam itself (IMHO), I believe
it is not accurate to just say that E-mail is not reliable.
If you're consistently not getting your E-mail, get a better
ISP.
Mickey
At 18:19 14-10-04, Scott VanArtsdalen wrote:
-----Start of Original Message-----
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen"
<svanarts@yahoo.com>
>
>Just an observation in general and not a jab at anyone in particular.
>In real life, I run an email server. MS Exchange 2003 to be specific
>and I also run a spam filter on it. So what? Just this: email should
>not be considered a reliable communication medium. I have people
>complain to me all the time that they aren't receiving email from
>somebody. The email can get dropped by the ISP, it can get caught in
my
>spam filter, or it can go who knows where. The point is that if the
>communication is important, pick up the phone and call. You'll
exchange
>a heck of a lot more information, a heckuva lot faster.
>
>--
>Scott VanArtsdalen
>RV-4 N311SV
>4-ever!
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Is a Biannual Flight REVIEW legally defined as Instruction?
That said my CFI flys in my plane, but his is almost done, so we're going to
have to argue over which one gets flown next time around.
This is a serious problem, in fact it may be my most serious problem...
Ah, the sounds of freedom wrecking havoc over my head as I type this in the
form of 5 bluish F/A 18s
Bail this thing, see ya....
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Short answer is yes. I believe Doug Rozendaal covered it in his post on
the subject. The regulations
do call for one hour of "flight instruction" and one hour of ground to
qualify for a Flight Review.
Jerry
Wheeler North wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
>Is a Biannual Flight REVIEW legally defined as Instruction?
>
>That said my CFI flys in my plane, but his is almost done, so we're going to
>have to argue over which one gets flown next time around.
>
>This is a serious problem, in fact it may be my most serious problem...
>
>Ah, the sounds of freedom wrecking havoc over my head as I type this in the
>form of 5 bluish F/A 18s
>
>Bail this thing, see ya....
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Mounting of Bendix Fuel Servo |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
Does anyone have some pictures of their Vertical mounting of a Bendix F.I.
Servo on the bottom of the sump as well as some shots of how they did their
FAB? Could also use some picture of the fuel line runs, from firewall to
engine pump, to fuel servo to distributor (mine is already mounted and lines
to cylinders installed. I am finally to that point and could use a few
pictures, as they are worth a thousand words. Thanks, just sent them
directly to me or point me to a web site.
Marty in Brentwood TN
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| Subject: | Wick's Open house |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Tomorrow at Schaefer's Metro- East airport East of STL in Illinois
Free food... Breakfast, and lunch
Should be a good time for those who attend
Phil
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| Subject: | AZKO primer over zinc chromate primer |
0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
I am re-posting because I forgot to put anything in the subject line. Duh.
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
I started priming with the zinc chromate rattle cans.
It sticks well, but just doesn't stand up to the handling during assembly, so I
switched to AKZO.
This is tough stuff and not that much more work to apply.
I was wondering if anyone sees a problem with putting the AZKO over the zinc chromate
(after prepping the zinc chromate surface, of course).
Dave
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| Subject: | engine gaskets - grease? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" <sarg314@earthlink.net>
Since I plan not to have a vacuum system, I was about to screw down the
plate that covers up the vacuum pump gear and noticed the gasket that
was supplied with the plate. I recall that when I used to set the
valves on my old VW, I always put on a new valve cover gasket and I
always covered the new gasket with a thin film of grease first. My "VW
Care for Idiots" manual said it would prevent oil leaks.
Is it normal practice to apply some grease to gasket like this that will
come into contact with engine oil?
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A
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