Today's Message Index:
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1. 07:04 AM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Scott Bilinski)
2. 07:27 AM - Re: Filling Oil Cooler (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
3. 07:59 AM - Lowrance 2000C ?? Look at the new EKP-4 WOW ! (Philip Condon)
4. 08:04 AM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Mickey Coggins)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Scott Bilinski)
6. 09:27 AM - iPAQ H5555 and accessories for sale... (Bill VonDane)
7. 10:03 AM - Re: Oil inspection door (Mike Robertson)
8. 10:18 AM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Mike Robertson)
9. 10:23 AM - Re: Control Vision EXP BUS (Mike Robertson)
10. 11:01 AM - Heat Muff Parts (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
11. 11:08 AM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Randy Lervold)
12. 11:46 AM - RV6A QB wing skins (Ralph E. Capen)
13. 12:25 PM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Jim & Bev Cone)
14. 01:53 PM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Charlie England)
15. 02:18 PM - Dynon back order (Jeff Dowling)
16. 02:34 PM - Re: Dynon back order (Ken Simmons)
17. 02:57 PM - Re: Filling Oil Cooler (Kyle Boatright)
18. 03:04 PM - Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies (Bob 1)
19. 03:53 PM - Re: Dynon back order (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
20. 05:43 PM - Re: Lowrance 2000C ?? Look at the new EKP-4 WOW ! (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
21. 07:04 PM - Re: Dynon back order (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
22. 07:13 PM - GPS hook up (Mike Comeaux)
23. 07:25 PM - tools (William Davis)
24. 08:06 PM - Re: tools (Sam Buchanan)
25. 08:35 PM - Re: Lowrance 2000C ?? Look at the new EKP-4 WOW ! (Scott Vanartsdalen)
26. 08:41 PM - Re: GPS hook up (Sam Buchanan)
27. 08:48 PM - FYI Questions answered about GRT EFIS - VERY LONG (Bill Schlatterer)
28. 10:58 PM - Re: Heat Muff Parts (Vanremog@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Why not get some sound cancelling head sets?
At 03:00 PM 10/17/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Eckenroth" <jeckenroth@nbn.net>
>
>In an effort to build a RV that I can live with noise wise I was planning
>to use the RV with muffler exhaust as shown here.
>http://www.aircraftexhaust.net/rv_exhaust.html
>
>However, other than viewing very limited information on the web site and
>talking to them at Oshkosh I know too little to actually make a purchase.
>
>So- does anyone have any experience with their products, especially the
>system with mufflers I will appreciate any comments.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Paul Eckenroth
>RV9A Finish
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Filling Oil Cooler |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
In a message dated 10/17/04 9:23:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jsflyrv@earthlink.net writes:
> What is the difference in turning it over by hand or using the starter?
>
> Jerry
>
>
Its easier on the starter to turn it over by hand! I am concerned that the
unloaded starter may turn up too many RPM. If you can get oil pressure by hand
it would be better, that's all.
Dan
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| Subject: | Lowrance 2000C ?? Look at the new EKP-4 WOW ! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Philip Condon" <pcondon@mitre.org>
If you are in the market for something like the Lowrance 2000, be sure to
compare the EKP-IV. At 1399$ it's the hands down winner in the larger screen
market GPS. This new unit from C-MAP has terrain mapping like a large Garmin
296 and it can be configured to display horz. or vertical (landscape or
portrait) mode. Lends itself as a built-in dash/panel unit to. I got one if
you haven't guessed by now....
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Maybe he doesn't want to annoy those pesky people on the ground
that are always looking for excuses to close airports? :-)
>Why not get some sound cancelling head sets?
>
>>In an effort to build a RV that I can live with noise wise I was planning
>>to use the RV with muffler exhaust as shown here.
>>http://www.aircraftexhaust.net/rv_exhaust.html
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Ah yes, those guys. If you want the plane quiet from the out side, may I
suggest the Whirlwind 151 3 blade prop and elect ignition. The prop is very
quiet and the ignition keeps all the burning in the combustion chamber
where it belongs. With mags the burning exhaust is still burning in the
exhaust pipes creating noise. People tell me that my plane sounds like a
car engine on take off its so smooth and quiet compared to a standard set up.
At 05:03 PM 10/18/2004 +0200, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
>Maybe he doesn't want to annoy those pesky people on the ground
>that are always looking for excuses to close airports? :-)
>
> >Why not get some sound cancelling head sets?
> >
> >>In an effort to build a RV that I can live with noise wise I was planning
> >>to use the RV with muffler exhaust as shown here.
> >>http://www.aircraftexhaust.net/rv_exhaust.html
>
>--
>Mickey Coggins
>http://www.rv8.ch/
>#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | iPAQ H5555 and accessories for sale... |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Everything is in like new / perfect condition!
iPAQ H5555
USB cradle / charger
12V car adapter for iPAQ
SanDisk 128MB SD memory card
Proporta aluminum iPAQ case/holder
GlobalSat BT-308 bluetooth wireless 12 channel WAAS enabled GPS
12V car adapter for GPS
PC Avionics Mountain Scope moving map software
Airport Insight aviation database software
Storm Chaser weather information software
All this would cost over $1500 to buy separately... I'll let it all go for
$1000 FIRM!
More info on my web site: http://www.vondane.com/forsale/ipaq/
-Bill VonDane
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| Subject: | Oil inspection door |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
There are flush camlock fasteners available from Skybolt. Here is a link:
http://www.skybolt.com/
Mike Robertson
>From: bertrv6@highstream.net
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Oil inspection door
>Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:50:32 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
>
>
> Hi:
>
> When at Oshkosh this year I saw an Rv, with to flush type of fastener
>at each end of the Cowling Oil door..It looks great.
>
> I have tried to find out the which type of fastener is, and the size.
> I look on Wicks catalog, but there are so many combinations, I tried some
>but they came too small..
>
> If some one has this type of arrangement, would appreciate the
>information
>as to type and size...I have an rv6a. Getting close to that day....
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>Bert
>rv6a
>
>
>Do Not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
I don't ahve any experience with these guys but I do know that Larry
Vetterman is working on a muffler exhaust system right now and it should be
ready any time now. He says it will lower the noise level by about 8db.
You may want to give him a call.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Paul Eckenroth" <jeckenroth@nbn.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies
>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:00:39 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Eckenroth" <jeckenroth@nbn.net>
>
>In an effort to build a RV that I can live with noise wise I was planning
>to use the RV with muffler exhaust as shown here.
>http://www.aircraftexhaust.net/rv_exhaust.html
>
>However, other than viewing very limited information on the web site and
>talking to them at Oshkosh I know too little to actually make a purchase.
>
>So- does anyone have any experience with their products, especially the
>system with mufflers I will appreciate any comments.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Paul Eckenroth
>RV9A Finish
>
>
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| Subject: | Control Vision EXP BUS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
I also am running the Van's 65 amp alternator with the EXP Bus. The only
thing I had to do is bypass the on-board master solenoid and use a standard
Van's master. The instructions were clearly laid out in the EXP-Bus
instructions. But I have had no problems with this setup since new, now
185+ hours.
Mike Robertson
>From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Control Vision EXP BUS
>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:21:30 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
>
>Been running EXP BUS on our RV6 for 2 years (about 400 hours) without
>problem.
>
>Changed to the 55(?)/60(?) amp alternator from Van's about 200+ hours ago.
>No problems.
>
>James
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Comeaux
> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:28 AM
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV-List: Control Vision EXP BUS
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux@bendnet.com>
> >
> > Dear Listers:
> > I have a problem that maybe everyone else should be made aware of
> > in case you decide to install the Control Vision EXP BUS center. I had
> > Blue Sky Aviation do my electrical and upon initial run up I cycled the
> > Alt switch to check the alternator and blew all the resistors in
> > the following
> > gauges, Tach (Van's) impulse, Both fuel gauges, fuel pressure,
> > oil pressure, oil temp. We called Van's and was told of a probable
> > compatibilty problem with the 60amp internal regulated alternator with
> > use of the EXP BUS system. Has anyone else heard of this? I've heard
> > of some other issues regarding the Bus not sure if related.
> >
> > Mike Comeaux
> > mcomeaux@bendnet.com
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Howdy list-
Anyone know where to get replacement parts for the heat muff Vetterman sends
with his standard crossover systems? I lost one of the rods with the threaded
ends that holds the end pieces together. I tried Vetterman but he's still
not home from LOE.
Thanks!
Mark do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
8 db is significant! Every 3 db increase or decrease represents a doubling
or halving of the acoustic energy.
Randy Lervold
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> I don't ahve any experience with these guys but I do know that Larry
> Vetterman is working on a muffler exhaust system right now and it should
be
> ready any time now. He says it will lower the noise level by about 8db.
> You may want to give him a call.
>
> Mike Robertson
>
> >From: "Paul Eckenroth" <jeckenroth@nbn.net>
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies
> >Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:00:39 -0400
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Eckenroth" <jeckenroth@nbn.net>
> >
> >In an effort to build a RV that I can live with noise wise I was planning
> >to use the RV with muffler exhaust as shown here.
> >http://www.aircraftexhaust.net/rv_exhaust.html
> >
> >However, other than viewing very limited information on the web site and
> >talking to them at Oshkosh I know too little to actually make a purchase.
> >
> >So- does anyone have any experience with their products, especially the
> >system with mufflers I will appreciate any comments.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Paul Eckenroth
> >RV9A Finish
> >
> >
>
> Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and
>
>
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| Subject: | RV6A QB wing skins |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
I am finally getting ready to close my wings but in measuring prior to drilling
the skin holes I found something of great concern to me.
Looking at drawing 21 (w chg 14), I can see that the outboard skin now goes on
top of the inboard skin and overlaps the inboard skin and the supporting rib below
with its inboard side at station 63.5.
Looking at drawing 10 (w chg 9), I can see that the outboard rib is reversed and
the inboard side is at station 125.375.
The distance between the two stations is 61.875'. With an additional .625" to
cover the outboard rib and an additional .625" for the wingtip attachment extension
provides a total span distance of 63.125".
These are all verifyable by measurement and calculations and match the plans to
the wings. The lower wing skins measure to 63.125" also.
My issue of concern is that the skins provided are only 63" long. If I drill with
proper edge distance for the rib at station 63.5, there will not be enough
extension to properly mount the wingtips. If I drill for proper wingtip installation,
I will end up with incorrect edge distance when attaching to the rib
at station 63.5 or incorrect edge distance on the inboard edge of the skin itself.
I am not comfortable with either of these compromises for this structure.
Has anyone else experienced this? What did you do? I have sent a note to Van's
asking for longer skins - no answer yet.
Ralph Capen
90% done - 90% to go!
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim & Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com>
Larry Vetterman told me at the homecoming that he was working on a muffler system
for RV's. If you don't need a system right away, it might be a good idea to
wait for his system. He has a very good reputation for exhaust systems.
Jim Cone
3-peat Offender
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
And it's about the minimum easily detected change in perceived loudness.
(1 dB is the theoretical minimum for young healthy ears in a 'controlled
environment'.)
A 10 db change (a *10 or /10 change) is perceived as a doubling or
halving of sound level.
So... 8 dB is indeed significant both outside & inside the cockpit. I'll
bet prop noise will be worse than engine noise if he can achieve that
reduction.
Charlie
Randy Lervold wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
>
>8 db is significant! Every 3 db increase or decrease represents a doubling
>or halving of the acoustic energy.
>
>Randy Lervold
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>>
>>I don't ahve any experience with these guys but I do know that Larry
>>Vetterman is working on a muffler exhaust system right now and it should
>>
>>
>be
>
>
>>ready any time now. He says it will lower the noise level by about 8db.
>>You may want to give him a call.
>>
>>Mike Robertson
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Paul Eckenroth" <jeckenroth@nbn.net>
>>>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>>Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies
>>>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:00:39 -0400
>>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Eckenroth" <jeckenroth@nbn.net>
>>>
>>>In an effort to build a RV that I can live with noise wise I was planning
>>>to use the RV with muffler exhaust as shown here.
>>>http://www.aircraftexhaust.net/rv_exhaust.html
>>>
>>>However, other than viewing very limited information on the web site and
>>>talking to them at Oshkosh I know too little to actually make a purchase.
>>>
>>>So- does anyone have any experience with their products, especially the
>>>system with mufflers I will appreciate any comments.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Paul Eckenroth
>>>RV9A Finish
>>>
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| Subject: | Dynon back order |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Has anyone received a Dynon unit recently? I ordered mine more than 2 months ago
and so far all I have noticed is a large 4 digit number on my credit card bill
from Vans.
Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
140 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon back order |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
I just received mine last week. I ordered it the first week of August through SafeAir1.
Ken
DO NOT ARCHIVE
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>
>Has anyone received a Dynon unit recently? I ordered mine more than 2 months
ago and so far all I have noticed is a large 4 digit number on my credit card
bill from Vans.
>
>Jeff Dowling
>RV-6A, N915JD
>140 hours
>Chicago/Louisville
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Filling Oil Cooler |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
With no compression (after you remove a plug from each cylinder), the loads
on the bearings are virtually nonexistant, so unless you're on a workout
program or have time to spare, there really isn't much reason not to use the
starter.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Filling Oil Cooler
> --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/17/04 9:23:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> jsflyrv@earthlink.net writes:
>
>> What is the difference in turning it over by hand or using the starter?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>
> Its easier on the starter to turn it over by hand! I am concerned that
> the
> unloaded starter may turn up too many RPM. If you can get oil pressure by
> hand
> it would be better, that's all.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Exhaust Technologies |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
>
> 8 db is significant! Every 3 db increase or decrease represents a doubling
> or halving of the acoustic energy.
>
> Randy Lervold
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
True, 8 db is significant in absolute terms.
But, to be fair...
3 db is not a great difference to the human ear.
If you're not paying careful attention, the difference can be missed.
http://www2.sfu.ca/sonic-studio/handbook/Decibel.html
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon back order |
--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
Jeff, I just got an email today from Dynon saying there is an 8 week backlog.
Doug Preston
BHM
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| Subject: | Re: Lowrance 2000C ?? Look at the new EKP-4 WOW ! |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
man, where do these prices come from? :-)
i don't see it for that price anywhere a place it shows up in a dogpile search...
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Philip Condon"
>
> If you are in the market for something like the Lowrance 2000, be sure to
> compare the EKP-IV. At 1399$ it's the hands down winner in the larger screen
> market GPS. This new unit from C-MAP has terrain mapping like a large Garmin
> 296 and it can be configured to display horz. or vertical (landscape or
> portrait) mode. Lends itself as a built-in dash/panel unit to. I got one if
> you haven't guessed by now....
>
>
>
>
>
>
man, where do these prices come from? :-)
i don't see it for that price anywhere a place it shows up in a dogpile search...
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: "Philip Condon" <PCONDON@MITRE.ORG>
If you are in the market for something like the Lowrance 2000, be sure to
compare the EKP-IV. At 1399$ it's the hands down winner in the larger screen
market GPS. This new unit from C-MAP has terrain mapping like a large Garmin
296 and it can be configured to display horz. or vertical (landscape or
portrait) mode. Lends itself as a built-in dash/panel unit to. I got one if
you haven't guessed by now....
of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
.matronics.com/emaillists
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon back order |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Jeff Dowling wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>
>Has anyone received a Dynon unit recently? I ordered mine more than 2 months
ago and so far all I have noticed is a large 4 digit number on my credit card
bill from Vans.
>
>Jeff Dowling
>RV-6A, N915JD
>140 hours
>Chicago/Louisville
>
>
>
I ordered the D10A in June, Knowing it was going to be awhile as it
was not even out yet.
I got mine in late September. I got it through Wick's with a small
discount and no billing to the credit card until it was shipped. It is
wired up and seems to work great. I got the install kit from Stein- air
with lots of extra crimp pins. Tnx Stein. I will be very happy with it.
I just need the rest of the plane built around it now..
Phil in Litchfield, IL
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux@bendnet.com>
Any body hook up a Lowrance 100 Airmap to a Digitrak AP?
I recieved the NMEA/Adapter cable where does it connect to
AP?
Regards Mike Comeaux
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--> RV-List message posted by: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
RV'ers,
Because of a serious vision problem , I am having to give up RV building (and flying)
.
I am offering my collection of tools for sale. They have built 5 RV's and are
what you really need to do the job.
The collection is essentially the same as that listed in Avery's catalog (for 2K)
with a few minor omissions and a lot of major additions. Extra stuff :
Pneumatic squeezer with adjustable set holder
3 yokes for above, 3" ,2" ,and a 1" thin nose no-hole yoke
17 extra bucking bars
pneumatic angle drill ( this one is old and leaks air but still works fine)
big collection of 1/4-28 bits
metal shrinker
pneumatic pop rivet puller (in addition to the hand puller)
rivet cutter
#1 unibit
6 stop counter sink cages
# 8 plate nut drill jig
#30 & #40 strap duplicators
swivel deburring tool
angle meter
Adel hand nibbler
pneumatic nibbler
Instrument hole punch (does both 3 1/8 and 2 1/4 holes)
canopy skin flanging tool
Parker tubing flaring tool
Imperial 1/4" tubing bender
Ridgid 3/8" tubing bender These are top quality and do not deform or mark the
tubing like the cheap ones.
6" throatless bench shear
4" Beverly bench shear
1/4, 3/8, & 1/2 Aeroquip hose mandrels
3 toggle clamps
extra straight tin snips
24" box & pan brake
Craftsman 2.4 Amp Industrial die grinder (1/4" collet chuck)
Tubing cutter
#8 rivnut puller
All for$2K Please reply off list if interested. I would very much prefer to sell
this to a Florida builder just starting out as shipping would be a real problem
for me
Oh yes, do not archive
Bill
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
William Davis wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "William Davis"
> <rvpilot@access4less.net>
>
> RV'ers,
>
> Because of a serious vision problem , I am having to give up RV
> building (and flying) . I am offering my collection of tools for
> sale. They have built 5 RV's and are what you really need to do the
> job.
<snip>
Bill, so sorry to hear of the vision problem that is requiring you to
retire from RVing. Many thanks for the wonderful contributions you have
made to our corner of aviation.
By the way, your uEncoder is still going strong. :-)
Best wishes for whatever endeavors you decide to pursue,
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: Lowrance 2000C ?? Look at the new EKP-4 WOW ! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Maybe a show price? I counldn't find it for that price either.
lucky <luckymacy@comcast.net> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net
(lucky)
man, where do these prices come from? :-)
i don't see it for that price anywhere a place it shows up in a dogpile search...
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Philip Condon"
>
> If you are in the market for something like the Lowrance 2000, be sure to
> compare the EKP-IV. At 1399$ it's the hands down winner in the larger screen
> market GPS. This new unit from C-MAP has terrain mapping like a large Garmin
> 296 and it can be configured to display horz. or vertical (landscape or
> portrait) mode. Lends itself as a built-in dash/panel unit to. I got one if
> you haven't guessed by now....
>
>
>
>
>
>
man, where do these prices come from? :-)
i don't see it for that price anywhere a place it shows up in a dogpile search...
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: "Philip Condon"
If you are in the market for something like the Lowrance 2000, be sure to
compare the EKP-IV. At 1399$ it's the hands down winner in the larger screen
market GPS. This new unit from C-MAP has terrain mapping like a large Garmin
296 and it can be configured to display horz. or vertical (landscape or
portrait) mode. Lends itself as a built-in dash/panel unit to. I got one if
you haven't guessed by now....
of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
.matronics.com/emaillists
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Mike Comeaux wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Comeaux" <mcomeaux@bendnet.com>
>
> Any body hook up a Lowrance 100 Airmap to a Digitrak AP?
> I recieved the NMEA/Adapter cable where does it connect to
> AP?
Mike, I have an Airmap 100 driving an EZ-Pilot, and the hookup should be
the same with the DigiTrak. Take a look at page two of the DigiTrak manual:
http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/documents/Digitrakinstall.pdf
P101, pin 3 is the serial data input on the DigiTrak. Now check out the
Airmap 100 manual, page 59:
http://www.lowrance.com/Manuals/Files/AM100_0145-63.pdf
The white wire in the optional power/data cable is the one that feeds
NMEA data to P101, pin 3 of the DigiTrak. Follow the Airmap instructions
for activating NMEA data transmission and you should be good to go.
Here is one source for the cable:
http://www.tropicaero.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=store.show_product_detail&mcid=65&pid=397
Enjoy your new autopilot!
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | FYI Questions answered about GRT EFIS - VERY LONG |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
I sent Todd at GRT a lot of questions and he not only answered but called to
discuss my lack of knowledge ;o( which I greatly appreciated. I thought
that I might share my lessons with the list in case anyone was afraid of
asking dumb questions. I may have missed something pertinent so please feel
free to point it out. In general, I was very impressed with their openness
and apparent sincerity. Customer service with these kind of systems is very
important and 100% dependent on the individuals who own/operate the company.
Also, I am under the impression that there are few problems with the GRT
systems. Would be interested in hearing good or bad stories.
Couple of interesting notes. GRTs panel displays and AHRS are independent
of each other. I am looking at the two display single AHRS version with the
EIS 4000 engine monitor and this is kinda important to me. If you lose the
AHRS, you still have AS, ALT, and Dg on the display because they are
independent of the AHRS. The GPS drives both displays so loss of the AHRS
or either display still leaves the GPS and one display intact. Since you
would be using one in place of a nav head or HSI, it is good to know that
loss of the AHRS still leaves the nav heads functional which could still
leave you an ILS LOC option. Not sure about the primary AI flight display .
Highway in the Sky information is derived from the GPS and BARO information
and operates independently of the VOR. Vertical guidance is a function of
the altimeter and GPS. HITS can be turned off or on while using HSI display
for ILS approaches.
Although they don't have true synthetic vision in the PFD display they do
show airports which could be very helpful even for VFR approaches. They
will have terrain in MAP mode.
Unlike most other small display EFIS systems, theirs allows for split screen
so that you can get PFD/HSI PFD/MAP PFD/Engine Monitor and other various
combinations on a single display. Since the display is not dependent on the
AHRS, you would still have a lot of functionality even with the AHRS down.
Answers to the questions below are indicated with a >>>>>
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Schlatterer [mailto:billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: And more Questions for GRT
Todd, just another series of never ending questions. Now that I am thinking
seriously about the dual GRTs,(single AD computer) a lot of things pop to
mind,... what little I have left :o). These are hair splitting but unless
you are there flying the system, there is no way for me to know without
asking.
Does the GNS430 just provide info to your display which you format or does
it display just like the 430?
>>>> Most GPS systems only send data elements and are remapped to the
display. GRT remaps the GPS data stream so it may not look like the GNS430.
If I choose your GPS as an option, can I display it on the #1 screen and
data from the GNS430 on the #2 at the same time. In other words, can I use
the #1 monitor for your GPS and the #2 for the 430 coupled to the AP for IFR
approaches?
>>>> YES
Will they both display traffic data from the GTX330 at the same time? Will
there be any extra cost to upgrade or is this just a planned enhancement
that comes with the normal upgrade process?
>>>> Missed that one!
Probably a stupid question but I am assuming that since there is only one
AHRS computer, what happens if you choose the same screen on both monitors
at the same time. I would assume that all changes mirrored on the other.
For instance, lets say that I have the PFD and MAP on #1 in split screen
mode and the MAP on #2 in full screen mode. If I am adjusting the map view
on #1, what is happening on #2?
>>>> Screens are independent so that with only one GPS, you can mess with
one while your passenger doodles with the other as long as you don't change
the baro. The views are independent but changes like BARO are mirrored.
Heading changes using the bug would be mirrored but the views would not. I
take this to mean that all of the views are independent but corrective
actions/changes are mirrored.
Another dumb one, but I assume that if we lose the AHRS computer, we lose
EFIS on both screens but would you still get things like altitude, Airspeed,
heading, etc that are basically mechanical reporting processes. What
happens to reporting from the EIS which also gives altitude and airspeed?
Assuming the displays are still up but the AHRS is down, what is left?
>>>> Displays are independent of AHRS. Loss of AHRS still leaves basic AS,
ALT, and DG functions as long as displays are powered up. GPS would
continue to work and HSI functions driven by VOR/LOC would still work.
What happens to the display of the GPS if you loose the AHRS computer? Does
the world just go dark or is there some residual things that would come from
elsewhere like the EIS. >>>> see above
Will the terrain display in map mode look like the terrain display you see
on the Garmin 296. It appears to have features, in color, and look
something like a chart? When will it be available? >>>> Roughly will look
like that, available 05 at no charge
I understand that your GPS will not be approach certified but when will it
have the approaches included as a VFR reference? >>>> Yes 05 also no charge
Assuming that I have the GNS 430 and a Tru-Trak Digi IIVS which should
handle vertical speed descents, will I be able to couple the AP and have it
fly the whole approach including the ILS descent while showing the needles
and HITS for reference?
>>>> Yes but vertical descent on the II VS is not vertical guidance.
Vertical Guidance would need the II VSG.
What would the difference be using your GPS instead of the 430? At what
point would I have to take over using your GPS compared to the 430. Let's
just assume it's a hazy day and either would be legal to fly? >>> our GPS
not IFR certified but will take you to the final approach fix/course.
Is the ARNIC 429 adapter needed for the GNS 430 or SL30 and is it extra or
included in the base price $8995? >>>> The ARNIC 429 is not needed with the
SL30 but is for the GNS430. Any use of vertical guidance will require the
ARNIC 429 adapter and is extra.
The materials says that this also enables GPSS steering with the Tru-Track
but GPSS steering is an option with Tru-Trak as well. Are you saying that
you don't need the GPSS steering option from Tru-Trak and that your GPS plus
the ARINC 429 adapter will provide GPSS steering ability with the TT? >>>>
Their system anticipates the turns and reduces the need for GPSS steering.
If I understood the answer, they don't think you need it unless you are
wanting real close vertical guidance and then you need VGPSS. Fuzzy
question ;o(
When using the system coupled with a vertical speed autopilot Digi II VS,
do you get audible altitude alerts at selected altitudes,... 100 to go,
etc??
>>>> forgot the answer ;o(.
Where does your database come from and what is the cost?
>>>> their database comes from the same government data used in the Jep
database but does not include approach info yet. There is no charge but it
is only updated annually, maybe changing to quarterly.
What happens if you guys go away next year ?? Where will I get my DB update
from?
>>> We would assume that the company would not go out of business but could
be sold. Obviously the buyer would be interested in keeping up the customer
base so it is doubtful that there would be any interruption. Also we have
sold some 12,000 EIS units and continue to support them and that is a
continuing revenue stream. Todd says that they predicated their business
model on sales of 60 units per year and are booking at an annual rate of
about 300 per year at this point. They have about 60 systems flying and
hear very little negative from any of them. (not sure how you would know but
we don't see much negative on the lists)
Thanks Bill S
7a Fuse/Panel
Bill Schlatterer
501 851 0310
Maumelle, Arkansas
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| Subject: | Re: Heat Muff Parts |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 10/18/2004 11:03:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Fiveonepw@aol.com writes:
Anyone know where to get replacement parts for the heat muff Vetterman sends
with his standard crossover systems? I lost one of the rods with the
threaded
ends that holds the end pieces together. I tried Vetterman but he's still
not home from LOE.
========================================
The ones supplied with the Vetterman exhausts were manufactured by Rick
Robbins. His contact info is in the Yeller Pages.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 719 hrs)
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