---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/19/04: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:19 AM - Prop for Sale (John Furey) 2. 07:33 AM - Fw: Please pass to RV List for me (Scott Vanartsdalen) 3. 07:57 AM - Rivet squeezer (David Figgins) 4. 08:24 AM - RV's in Northern NJ () 5. 08:30 AM - Re: Fw: Please pass to RV List for me (Ken Simmons) 6. 08:53 AM - Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce (Aircraft Spruce) 7. 09:01 AM - Re: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce (Aircraft Spruce) 8. 10:50 AM - Re:Aircraft Exhaust Tecknologies (Paul Eckenroth) 9. 11:47 AM - Re:Aircraft Exhaust Tecknologies (Dale Mitchell) 10. 12:15 PM - FADEC (Kathleen@rv7.us) 11. 01:17 PM - Re: FADEC (Dan Checkoway) 12. 01:38 PM - RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? (Tony Marshall) 13. 01:46 PM - LOE4 Report (Larry Pardue) 14. 01:48 PM - Please pass to RV List for me (Scott VanArtsdalen) 15. 01:53 PM - Re: Rivet squeezer (Charles Rowbotham) 16. 02:16 PM - Re: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? (Scott Bilinski) 17. 02:44 PM - Re: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? (Mike Robertson) 18. 03:07 PM - Re: FADEC (Jim Jewell) 19. 03:09 PM - Re: Control Vision EXP BUS (Kevin Horton) 20. 03:46 PM - Re: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? (GMC) 21. 08:57 PM - seats (Glen Matejcek) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:10 AM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RV-List: Prop for Sale --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I have a Sensenich 70x80 Prop for an O-320 in new condition -300hrs with a fitted spinner. No work just bolt it on and fly. Make offer. Also: A complete Vac system with gyros- will sell together or seperate. Heated Pitot Tube Dive Gear-Pad and Steel Line for Constant Speed Prop -new ElectroSystems Starter- like new 300hrs 70 Amp Alternator - new Zeftronics Regulator - new Dozens of circut breakers Many other items Contact off list john@fureychrysler.com 330-324-2041 Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:44 AM PST US From: Scott Vanartsdalen Subject: RV-List: Fwd: Please pass to RV List for me rv4@yahoogroups.com, rv4-list@matronics.com, info@xcomavionics.com --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen I received this email just this morning from Mr. Michael Coates. Per his request I am passing this along. Pay special attention to the problems he has with email and spam filters. This is exactly what I was talking about in my posting last week. When communication absolutely has to get through, pick up the phone. Anyway, preach mode off, here's Michael's message: XCOM Avionics wrote:Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:02:17 +1000 From: XCOM Avionics Subject: Please pass to RV List for me Hello Scott I am hoping you can forward this to the RV list for me, i have tried to send info but it bounces as i am not a member. Recently there have been a few messages passed to me saying i am not promptly responding to emails... many times i just dont get them.... Unfortunately with a business site and the same email addresses for the past 8 years we get more than 1600 spam messages each and every day and about 200 real messages. We have employed special spam filtering on the mail servers which drops it down to about 500 on our computer but it occasionally knocks off a few valid emails from customers, until someone finds a way to get around this it is an unfortunate fact of life we have to live with.... I think we will have to go back to fax for reliability.... The XCOM has been shipping recently with more than 200 units being supplied to customers, we do have about 50 orders placed some time ago by customers, some almost two years old and we cant make contact with them..... hopefully this mail on the list will help them contact us again. The email details are wrong or have changed, credit card info expired and phones disconnected as people have moved house.... Seems these are the ones being the most vocal but until they supply details we cant contact them. If they are on this list and have an order please email me on a 'new' email address info@xcomavionics.com I have been away for the past 2 weeks doing a trip we did last year called "Flight for Sight" last year we raised $60,000 for the Royal Blind Foundation, this year $100,000 which is a great effort. http://www.mcp.com.au/sinus/flight-for-sight/rbf-trip.html For details on last years trip. The good old email let us down again while we were away, the auto responder didnt work and our mail was meant to be forwarded to an address we could access while travelling but it only sent a few through each day and then stopped... We are here and ready to communicate, but unless you supply your current contact details we cant really help you. PS our phone and fax always work !! Thanks for passing this mail on. Michael -- With regards, The XCOM Avionics TeamEmail: info@xcomavionics.comXCOM Web Site: http://www.xcom760.com http://www.xcomavionics.com"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you long to return." From the MCP website: Factory 4, No.24 Leda Drive, Leda Business Park Burleigh Heads, Gold Coast - Queensland, Australia 4220 Phone within Australia 07 5568 7770 Fax 07 5568 7772 Phone outside Australia +61 7 5568 7770 Fax +61 7 5568 7772 Email mcoates@mcp.com.au Web http://www.mcp.com.au Phone Contact 24 hours 0418 168 665 Outside Aust +61 418 168 665 -- Scott VanArtsdalen RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!! When a man does all he can though it succeeds not well, blame not him that did it." -- George Washington === ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:40 AM PST US From: David Figgins <2004nospam@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: Rivet squeezer --> RV-List message posted by: David Figgins <2004nospam@earthlink.net> As a follow up to my message looking for a copy of the manual for the CP-214 squeezer, is there such a thing as a rivet gap gauge that makes it easy to set the gap for a specific rivet length? I have seen the notes about 1.5 turns of the adjustable set for each change in rivet length but am looking for an easier way to set the gap for the first rivet. Dave Figgins RV-7 empennage do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:51 AM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: RV's in Northern NJ --> RV-List message posted by: Anyone know of any people with RV's based in Northern NJ - CDW, N07, TEB, or MMU? Please contact me off the list. Thanks in advance, Jon Weiswasser N898JW jonweisw at rcn.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:32 AM PST US From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fwd: Please pass to RV List for me --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" I can sympathise with Mr. Coates and this is not meant as a slam on him only a suggestion. We receive well over 3000 spam a day. Some of these can be deleted immediately based on specific content. The rest are scanned by some poor schmuck in the IT department to make sure that no legitimate emails were captured. I've done this many times myself and always feel like I need a shower to clean the filth off. Did I just call myself a schmuck? Anyway, this task falls upon the IT department because we are in a position to tweak the spam filter to increase the good to spam ratio. Yes, this does take some time, but we've decided the hour or two a day overall that we spend doing this is worth the effort. We also quickly found out that mentioning how much spam we get a day was of little consolation to our customers when we missed one of their emails. Unfortunately, spam has become a major issue that is not going to go away anytime soon. We could easily blame this on the customer for a variaty of reasons such as using an ISP that is known for spam, but that accomplishes nothing. Ken DO NOT ARCHIVE ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Scott Vanartsdalen >--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen > >I received this email just this morning from Mr. Michael Coates. Per his request I am passing this along. Pay special attention to the problems he has with email and spam filters. This is exactly what I was talking about in my posting last week. When communication absolutely has to get through, pick up the phone. Anyway, preach mode off, here's Michael's message: > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:16 AM PST US From: Aircraft Spruce Subject: Re: RV-List: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce --> RV-List message posted by: Aircraft Spruce Thank you very much for your kind words, we appreciate your business. Renee Gelinas Aircraft Spruce --- "Crosley, Rich" wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich" > > > Over the last 25 years I've built two airplanes and > owned 4 and used Spruce > products all along the way with great results. I > order on line and in three > or four days there is a package on my front porch. > I do live in California > which probably helps with the transit time. They > ship their catalogue for > free and it alone is worth a fortune in all the > information and data it > supplies. Give them a try and see how they work for > you. > > Satisfied Customer > Rich Crosley > Palmdale, CA > RV-8, N948RC, Painting > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:26 AM PST US From: Aircraft Spruce Subject: Re: RV-List: Follow up on Aircraft Spruce --> RV-List message posted by: Aircraft Spruce Scott, A BIG thank you from Jim Iriwn, President of Aircraft Spruce. Renee Gelinas Aircraft Spruce --- Scott Bilinski wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski > > > ACS has been very, very good to me. Matter of fact, > their customer service > has amazed me several times in the past couple of > years. The only complaint > I can think of is you had better know what you want > and not expect the > person on the phone to help you select an item. Do > your homework, and get > what you need, works every time for me. > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich" > > > > > >Over the last 25 years I've built two airplanes and > owned 4 and used Spruce > >products all along the way with great results. I > order on line and in three > >or four days there is a package on my front porch. > I do live in California > >which probably helps with the transit time. They > ship their catalogue for > >free and it alone is worth a fortune in all the > information and data it > >supplies. Give them a try and see how they work > for you. > > > >Satisfied Customer > >Rich Crosley > >Palmdale, CA > >RV-8, N948RC, Painting > > > > > > > Scott Bilinski > Eng dept 305 > Phone (858) 657-2536 > Pager (858) 502-5190 > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:26 AM PST US From: "Paul Eckenroth" Subject: Re:RV-List: Aircraft Exhaust Tecknologies --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Eckenroth" Thanks to all who commented. It would appear that this company is not well known to the RV community. Are there any other exhaust systems with mufflers that have been successfully used on RVs. I will check Vetterman as suggested Paul Eckenroth RV9A Finish ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:47:08 AM PST US From: Dale Mitchell Subject: Re:RV-List: Aircraft Exhaust Tecknologies --> RV-List message posted by: Dale Mitchell I believe Aircraft Exhaust Tecknologies will supply Vetterman with the mufflers. Dale Mitchell RV-8A MN wing. --- Paul Eckenroth wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Eckenroth" > > > Thanks to all who commented. It would appear that > this company is not well > known to the RV community. Are there any other > exhaust systems with > mufflers that have been successfully used on RVs. > > I will check Vetterman as suggested > > Paul Eckenroth > RV9A Finish > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:23 PM PST US From: Kathleen@rv7.us Subject: RV-List: FADEC --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us Seeing there is not much in the archives, I pose the questions: How many folks flying with FADEC? What do you think of it? (Do it again?) What is the down side? According to Aerosance, there are RVs flying with angle valve 360s and FADEC. Does anyone have FADEC on their 200 hp angle valve? How's it working. FADEC costs an arm and a leg. I'm trying to find out if it is worth it.. Thanks to all, Kathleen Evans www.rv7.us ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:44 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: FADEC --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" I still don't get why anybody would want FADEC. I'm not knocking it, I just can't relate to not wanting to control mixture manually. With balanced fuel injectors, you have a huge band of possible operating conditions -- figure the band between 150 ROP and 50 LOP gives you a fuel burn spread of a few gallons per hour. Why not give the operator the control to play around to suit conditions and personal preference? And you're tellin' me I gotta pay big bucks to lose that control? On the other hand, I do have electronic ignition but I do NOT have a "timing knob" in my cockpit. I understand that electronics work way faster & smarter than I do. But that's a very granular, real-time adjustment. With something as non-granular as mixture & prop control, I gotta have my knobs. 8-) As you can see I don't really get it. But I used to think vacuum systems were the way to go...so I'm at least open-minded about being convinced that FADEC is desirable in the first place, let alone worth the price! do not archive )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: FADEC > --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us > > > Seeing there is not much in the archives, I pose the questions: > How many folks flying with FADEC? > What do you think of it? (Do it again?) > What is the down side? > > According to Aerosance, there are RVs flying with angle valve 360s and > FADEC. Does anyone have FADEC on their 200 hp angle valve? How's it > working. > > FADEC costs an arm and a leg. I'm trying to find out if it is worth it.. > > Thanks to all, > > Kathleen Evans > www.rv7.us > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:38:57 PM PST US From: "Tony Marshall" Subject: RV-List: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" I have an rv6 that had a vertical card compass that was attached to the vertical post that runs from the roll bar down into the panel. The compass wouldnt work properly at that location.....so....i removed it and set my battery powered, built in antenna, garmin 196 up on that post. well guess what? the garmin shuts itself down there, but works fine outside the airplane, and even away from that center post. sure, i can move it somewhere else, but has anyone encountered this problem? fyi, immediately below this post i have panel-mounted a bendix/king skyforce and comm and transponder. no apparent problems with any of these instruments. i am running an 0360 Lyc with normal mags. any helpful suggestions will be appreciated. Tony Marshall ArtDeco RV6 www.lambros.com P.O. Box 906 Polson, MT 59860 800-432-6828 Office 406-249-0835 Cell ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:46:04 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: LOE4 Report From: Larry Pardue --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue Listers, For any of you that wanted to make it to LOE4 (Land of Enchantment Fly-In at Las Cruces, New Mexico) who were unable to come I put a brief report on my website at: http://n5lp.net/LOE4.htm There are also links to many good pictures from Doug Reeves' site at http://www.vansaircraft.net and I'm sure there will be more in days to come. Do not archive Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://n5lp.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:58 PM PST US From: "Scott VanArtsdalen" Subject: RV-List: Please pass to RV List for me --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" I apologize if this is a double posting. I sent this earlier but it didn't appear to go through. Here is an email I received from Michael Coates. He would like to respond to current and potential customers on the various RV email lists. -----Original Message----- From: XCOM Avionics [mailto:info@xcomavionics.com] Subject: Please pass to RV List for me Hello Scott I am hoping you can forward this to the RV list for me, i have tried to send info but it bounces as i am not a member. Recently there have been a few messages passed to me saying i am not promptly responding to emails... many times i just dont get them.... Unfortunately with a business site and the same email addresses for the past 8 years we get more than 1600 spam messages each and every day and about 200 real messages. We have employed special spam filtering on the mail servers which drops it down to about 500 on our computer but it occasionally knocks off a few valid emails from customers, until someone finds a way to get around this it is an unfortunate fact of life we have to live with.... I think we will have to go back to fax for reliability.... The XCOM has been shipping recently with more than 200 units being supplied to customers, we do have about 50 orders placed some time ago by customers, some almost two years old and we cant make contact with them..... hopefully this mail on the list will help them contact us again. The email details are wrong or have changed, credit card info expired and phones disconnected as people have moved house.... Seems these are the ones being the most vocal but until they supply details we cant contact them. If they are on this list and have an order please email me on a 'new' email address info@xcomavionics.com I have been away for the past 2 weeks doing a trip we did last year called "Flight for Sight" last year we raised $60,000 for the Royal Blind Foundation, this year $100,000 which is a great effort. http://www.mcp.com.au/sinus/flight-for-sight/rbf-trip.html For details on last years trip. The good old email let us down again while we were away, the auto responder didnt work and our mail was meant to be forwarded to an address we could access while travelling but it only sent a few through each day and then stopped... We are here and ready to communicate, but unless you supply your current contact details we cant really help you. PS our phone and fax always work !! Thanks for passing this mail on. Michael -- With regards, The XCOM Avionics Team Email: info@xcomavionics.com XCOM Web Site: http://www.xcom760.com http://www.xcomavionics.com "Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you long to return." ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:15 PM PST US From: "Charles Rowbotham" Subject: RE: RV-List: Rivet squeezer --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" David, We guess & squeeze a rivit by itself and ajust. We then squeeze a rivit inplace, use the standard rivit gauge (for the size we are using) and adjust. From then on all the rest in the line are right on. Good Building, Chuck Rowbotham RV-8A >From: David Figgins <2004nospam@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Rivet squeezer >Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:57:07 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: David Figgins <2004nospam@earthlink.net> > >As a follow up to my message looking for a copy of the manual for the >CP-214 squeezer, is there such a thing as a rivet gap gauge that makes >it easy to set the gap for a specific rivet length? I have seen the >notes about 1.5 turns of the adjustable set for each change in rivet >length but am looking for an easier way to set the gap for the first rivet. > >Dave Figgins RV-7 empennage > >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:16:35 PM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski You need to have the roll over bar demagnetized for starters. Then see what kind of problems are left. At 02:38 PM 10/19/2004 -0600, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" > >I have an rv6 that had a vertical card compass that was attached to the >vertical post that runs from the roll bar down into the panel. The >compass wouldnt work properly at that location.....so....i removed it and >set my battery powered, built in antenna, garmin 196 up on that >post. well guess what? the garmin shuts itself down there, but works >fine outside the airplane, and even away from that center post. sure, i >can move it somewhere else, but has anyone encountered this problem? > >fyi, immediately below this post i have panel-mounted a bendix/king >skyforce and comm and transponder. no apparent problems with any of these >instruments. i am running an 0360 Lyc with normal mags. > >any helpful suggestions will be appreciated. > > >Tony Marshall >ArtDeco RV6 >www.lambros.com >P.O. Box 906 >Polson, MT 59860 >800-432-6828 Office >406-249-0835 Cell > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:09 PM PST US From: "Mike Robertson" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" Tony, Check to see which center post you have. The early ones were Chromally just like the roll bar while the newer ones are stainless steel so that they won't interfere with the compass. Mike Robertson >From: "Tony Marshall" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RV-List: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? >Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:38:28 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" > >I have an rv6 that had a vertical card compass that was attached to the >vertical post that runs from the roll bar down into the panel. The compass >wouldnt work properly at that location.....so....i removed it and set my >battery powered, built in antenna, garmin 196 up on that post. well guess >what? the garmin shuts itself down there, but works fine outside the >airplane, and even away from that center post. sure, i can move it >somewhere else, but has anyone encountered this problem? > >fyi, immediately below this post i have panel-mounted a bendix/king >skyforce and comm and transponder. no apparent problems with any of these >instruments. i am running an 0360 Lyc with normal mags. > >any helpful suggestions will be appreciated. > > >Tony Marshall >ArtDeco RV6 >www.lambros.com >P.O. Box 906 >Polson, MT 59860 >800-432-6828 Office >406-249-0835 Cell > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:18 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: FADEC --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" The price seems a bit hard to reconcile I hear the argument about losing control of mixture choices. However that is likely balanced out somewhat with all those moments when the pilot gets behind mixture management due to unintended mismanagement or other distractions such as looking out the windows (flying){[;-). `Supposedly'... The automatic control should keep the mixture and timing in tight formation regardless of engine load. So then, modifying prop or engine speed as preferred would still deliver the best GPH per RPM all the while preserving engine TBO and reducing operating costs to some (unknown to me)degree. At present the performance issues may, or may not justify the cost for those of us that are among bank account challenged. I'll leave the cost versus performance thing for others wiser than yours truly to deal with. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: FADEC > --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us > > > Seeing there is not much in the archives, I pose the questions: > How many folks flying with FADEC? > What do you think of it? (Do it again?) > What is the down side? > > According to Aerosance, there are RVs flying with angle valve 360s and > FADEC. Does anyone have FADEC on their 200 hp angle valve? How's it > working. > > FADEC costs an arm and a leg. I'm trying to find out if it is worth it.. > > Thanks to all, > > Kathleen Evans > www.rv7.us > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:28 PM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Control Vision EXP BUS --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Comeaux" > > Dear Listers: > I have a problem that maybe everyone else should be made aware of > in case you decide to install the Control Vision EXP BUS center. I had > Blue Sky Aviation do my electrical and upon initial run up I cycled the > Alt switch to check the alternator and blew all the resistors in > the following > gauges, Tach (Van's) impulse, Both fuel gauges, fuel pressure, > oil pressure, oil temp. We called Van's and was told of a probable > compatibilty problem with the 60amp internal regulated alternator with > use of the EXP BUS system. Has anyone else heard of this? I've heard > of some other issues regarding the Bus not sure if related. This might not be an EXP BUS problem. There was a long series of discussions on the Aeroelectric-List earlier this year about alternator "load dump". Apparently if you switch an alternator OFF when it is producing a high current, there may be a momentary voltage spike on the alternator output. I don't understand all the ins and outs of the issue, but perhaps this was what happened here. It might be interesting to post your story on the Aeroelectric List. If this was caused by "load dump", then there must be other variables involved too, as I suspect many other flyers have cycled the alternator switch when the alternator is producing high load, without frying something. -- Kevin Horton Ottawa, Canada on the road, again :( ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:13 PM PST US From: GMC Subject: RE: RV-List: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? --> RV-List message posted by: GMC Hi Tony If your aircraft is still in your workshop and close to fluorescent lights (just overhead in my case) that can cause a problem, my magnetism problem went away when I took the aircraft to airport for assembly. George McNutt Langley, BC -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Marshall Subject: RV-List: RV6 Canopy Roll Bar Center Post....Magnetic Field? --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" I have an rv6 that had a vertical card compass that was attached to the vertical post that runs from the roll bar down into the panel. The compass wouldnt work properly at that location.....so....i removed it and set my battery powered, built in antenna, garmin 196 up on that post. well guess what? the garmin shuts itself down there, but works fine outside the airplane, and even away from that center post. sure, i can move it somewhere else, but has anyone encountered this problem? fyi, immediately below this post i have panel-mounted a bendix/king skyforce and comm and transponder. no apparent problems with any of these instruments. i am running an 0360 Lyc with normal mags. any helpful suggestions will be appreciated. Tony Marshall ArtDeco RV6 www.lambros.com P.O. Box 906 Polson, MT 59860 800-432-6828 Office 406-249-0835 Cell ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:23 PM PST US From: "Glen Matejcek" Subject: RV-List: seats 0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary --> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" Hi All- I just received my seats for our -8 from Abby Erdmann of Flightline Interiors. WOW. 100% confor foam cushions, as opposed to the single layer of confor in the accessory catalog. The covers are a supple synthetic leather (NOT car seat vinyl) for well less than half what the Big Name west coast seat specialists demand. I highly recommend her and her work. (No, I'm not affiliated, just impressed!) Glen Matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net