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1. 03:04 AM - Re: Too many lists? (Kevin Horton)
2. 04:55 AM - Re: Slider Tip-Up Mod (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
3. 05:17 AM - Re: Slider Tip-Up Mod (DWENSING@aol.com)
4. 05:20 AM - Re: Too many lists? (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
5. 05:26 AM - Re: Putting Air In Tires... (LarryRobertHelming)
6. 05:39 AM - Manifold Pressure Error (Lenleg@aol.com)
7. 06:14 AM - Re: Scratches in aluminum (Charlie Kuss)
8. 06:36 AM - Re: Too many lists? (cgalley)
9. 06:49 AM - Re: Grand Rapids Horizon 1 (Frazier, Vincent A)
10. 07:15 AM - Re: Too many lists? (Scott VanArtsdalen)
11. 07:38 AM - Re: Slider Tip-Up Mod (Ralph E. Capen)
12. 07:56 AM - Re: Diesel (David E. Nelson)
13. 09:30 AM - Re: Root Fairings for RV4 (Dean Pichon)
14. 09:44 AM - traffic warning scopes (Knicholas2@aol.com)
15. 09:56 AM - Re: Root Fairings for RV4 (Moore, Warren)
16. 10:21 AM - Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Dan Checkoway)
17. 10:31 AM - Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing (Kathleen@rv7.us)
18. 10:47 AM - Re: Putting Air In Tires... (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
19. 10:48 AM - (OT) Marry Me, Megan (Dennis Persyk)
20. 11:03 AM - Counterweighted Crank (Kathleen@rv7.us)
21. 11:19 AM - Re: Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing (Scott Bilinski)
22. 11:29 AM - Re: Counterweighted Crank (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
23. 11:36 AM - Re: traffic warning scopes (Terry Watson)
24. 11:36 AM - Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
25. 11:36 AM - Re: Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
26. 11:36 AM - Re: Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
27. 11:38 AM - Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Dan Checkoway)
28. 11:49 AM - [ Bob Olds ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
29. 11:50 AM - Re: Putting Air In Tires... (JOHN STARN)
30. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Scott VanArtsdalen)
31. 12:26 PM - Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Ross Mickey)
32. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Dan Checkoway)
33. 12:46 PM - Re: Counterweighted Crank (Ralph E. Capen)
34. 12:53 PM - Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Dan Checkoway)
35. 01:12 PM - Re: Counterweighted Crank (Wayne Glasser)
36. 01:22 PM - Airparks... (Bill VonDane)
37. 01:25 PM - Re: Scratches in aluminum (Mike Robertson)
38. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Scott VanArtsdalen)
39. 01:54 PM - Re: Tail Lynx tailwheel springs (RobHickman@aol.com)
40. 02:00 PM - ACS - RV Control Cables (Aircraft Spruce)
41. 02:21 PM - Re: Too many lists? (Kyle Boatright)
42. 02:24 PM - Re: Scratches in aluminum (David)
43. 02:47 PM - RV8 seats (Mickey Coggins)
44. 02:49 PM - O-320 needed (Michael Saffold)
45. 03:12 PM - Re: O-320 needed (John Ammeter)
46. 03:12 PM - Re: Too many lists? (Kevin Horton)
47. 03:21 PM - Re: RV8 seats (Erdmann's)
48. 03:31 PM - Re: Diesel (Kevin Horton)
49. 03:32 PM - Re: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite? (David Schaefer)
50. 03:33 PM - Re: O-320 needed (Jerry Springer)
51. 03:39 PM - Re: Counterweighted Crank (Rhett Westerman)
52. 03:52 PM - Re: Tail Lynx tailwheel springs (Jim Daniels)
53. 03:58 PM - Avionics cooling (Chuck Weyant)
54. 04:13 PM - Re: RV8 seats (Chuck Weyant)
55. 04:38 PM - Re: Putting Air In Tires... (Richard Scott)
56. 04:52 PM - Re: Root Fairings for RV4 (Louis Willig)
57. 05:08 PM - Re: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite? (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
58. 05:23 PM - Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
59. 05:26 PM - Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Dan Checkoway)
60. 06:02 PM - Re: Scratches in aluminum (Charlie Kuss)
61. 06:06 PM - Re: ACS - RV Control Cables (John Danielson)
62. 06:23 PM - Re: RV8 seats (Charlie England)
63. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) (Ed Anderson)
64. 06:48 PM - Re: Too many lists? (Charlie England)
65. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: Putting Air In Tires... (John)
66. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Putting Air In Tires... (Tom Gummo)
67. 07:44 PM - Re: Diesel (Scott Jackson)
68. 09:15 PM - Re: O-320 needed (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
69. 09:18 PM - FADEC (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
70. 09:53 PM - Re: Diesel (Todd Bartrim)
71. 10:11 PM - Re: Putting Air In Tires... (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
72. 10:29 PM - Question on Folding Leading Edge of Elevator... (Matt Johnson)
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Subject: | Re: Too many lists? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Aaron Frechette" <right-stuff@comcast.net>
>
>Tedd,
>
>I have to say that I don't see how The List is doing a 'good' job of items 1
>through 4, set aside 5. I actually feel like item 5 is a good feature to
>have at times. Nothing like having the picture right there to help
>communicate a point.
>
>1. Message presentation by thread or by date
>2. Option for web browsing or individual e-mails sent
>3. Good search functionality
>4. Good categorization
>5. Ability to include pics and files WITH messages
>6. Ability to post & store pictures in a gallery
>7. Ability to post & store files someplace central
>
>I suppose it has to do with the standards by which you judge these criteria.
>I personally feel like the mailing lists are an cumbersome means for sharing
>and organizing information when compared to discussion boards like, for
>example www.glocktalk.com, which runs on vBulletin. IMO, going from a board
>like this to The List is like going from Windows back to DOS. Well, maybe
>not that extreme. I'll just say that web boards work well for me.
>
>Aaron Frechette
In large part it depends on what e-mail client you use, and what you
do with the messages after you get them. My e-mail client will sort
messages by thread, and sort the threads by date. I read the threads
with interesting subject lines, and delete the others. If I ever see
a message with a good idea I change the subject to be more
descriptive, then save a copy in a folder, with a different folder
for each main area of interest. My e-mail client has an excellent
search function, so I can quickly find a saved message years later if
need be.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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Subject: | Slider Tip-Up Mod |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Took me 6 hours, one afternoon and $150.00 That is the only downsides.
I have a few upsides that Ill share.
1. Wife Michelle now will load the plane.
2. Loading the 6A with the tail up is difficult w/o this mod
3. My 6A has tall seat backs for comfort, which makes loading even more
challenging w/o the tip up
4. I could not easily remove my custom smoke tank w/o the tip up
5. We travel a lot and this mod actually makes us look fwd to loading
and unloading the plane. While the rest of the group struggles to get to
their baggage in the tandem or side by side. We stand comfortable on the
ramp and pull out exactly what we need.
6. Cleaning the inside of the canopy is also much easier on the tip-up.
Mike Stewart
Gonna miss the access to baggage in-flight moving to the S8.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marshall
Subject: RV-List: Slider Tip-Up Mod
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
A fellow RVR Rich Meske some years ago developed a tip up mod for an RV6
slider. He sells a kit for the conversion at www.aircraftextras.com
Anyone had experience with this mod? How much time does it take to
install? Upsides? Downsides?
Tony Marshall
ArtDeco RV6
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Subject: | Re: Slider Tip-Up Mod |
--> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
In a message dated 10/24/04 8:45:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tony@lambros.com writes:
> A fellow RVR Rich Meske some years ago developed a tip up mod for an RV6
> slider. He sells a kit for the conversion at www.aircraftextras.com
>
> Anyone had experience with this mod? How much time does it take to install?
> Upsides? Downsides?
>
Tony,
First, the plane is not yet flying (will be very soon) but I do not expect
any problems.
The installation is a little time consuming but worth it in my opinion. I
simplified the mechanism that releases the canopy to slide back and allow the
rear slider block to disengage the track but other wise installed it as supplied.
The included instructions could be better but you get the idea of what is to
be done. i.e. the screws holding down the side slider tracks must be changed
to countersunk flat head screws. The instructions say nothing about that.
The tip up ability has been a very nice attribute even in the construction
phase. Used it again yesterday as I was installing the luggage area tie down
ring bases. I believe there will be many times in the flying future that the
feature will be most appreciated
I am glad I spent the money and the time to install it.
Maybe one downside.........now my wife thinks she can get a bigger piece of
luggage into the plane!
Dale Ensing
RV-6A N118DE
ready for FAA in about a week!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Mickey you will not get that. The Yahoo groups do not get crawled by
google.
My major issue with Yahoo has been its search ability. Searching the
yahoo groups are useless. It is pointless to go through an intelligent
Yahoo discussion of future need to know items if you cant get to it
later.
Yahoo groups are VERY GOOD for day to day information exchange. Perfect
for local people to keep up to speed with each other. But as far as a
global exchange of information for our kids to learn from, forget it.
The rv-list has saved my butt more than 100 times when I needed and
answer to a ? and I have no doubt my life would have been even more
miserable building the 6 w/o the rv-list and its years of information to
search.
I do not bother getting involved with other BB's as there is no way to
know if they will be there in the future to get the information from. I
personally need only 2 lists.
1. RV-list for intelligent exchange of information by some very
intelligent people for future reference.
2. Yahoo groups for local day to day stuff as a communication babble
tool
Mike Stewart
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mickey Coggins
Subject: RE: RV-List: Too many lists?
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>That's what Google is for! It will find it on Matt's list or just
about
>any where else it might be.
I have not been able to get Google to find information
on the Yahoo groups. Is there a trick that I don't
know about?
Thanks,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: Putting Air In Tires... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Overkill? Seems that removing and replacing the stem cap should be most
important. Without the stem cap, dirt can enter and settle in the valve
opening. Then,,,,When you put in air next time, some of that dirt gets
moved a bit and settles along the edge of the air tight fitting; and you
have just built in an air leak because you did not use a stem cap.
Best to keep dirt out of the stem. Remove and replace cap each time you
need to add air.
Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"
The sincerest satisfactions in life come in doing and not dodging duty;
in meeting and solving problems, in facing facts;
in flying a virgin plane never flown before.
- Richard L. Evans & Larry R Helming
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Putting Air In Tires...
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
>
> The following are great answers - just be certain to purchase an extension
> that has the little button to depress the valve stem (mine came from and
RV
> camper store).
> In addition, I purchased some chromed valve stem caps - with a hex head,
> from an auto supply store. Then I made a driver by raiding my many tool
> sets and spot welded a small rod to an extra one that fit the hex valve
stem
> cap. Works fine for removing and replacing the stem cap - perhaps
> overkill???
>
> >> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
> >
> > Cleavland sells a valve stem sxtension. Works great.
> > Check out
> > http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=VSE5&varia
> > tion=&aitem=18&mitem=27
>
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Subject: | Manifold Pressure Error |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
List:
FYI .... I found the calibration error in my MP gauge ... I was showing 4"
high on the gauge. I am no longer getting 26" at 8500'. But I sure have a
faster airplane now !!!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
281 hrs
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Subject: | Re: Scratches in aluminum |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
David,
No one else has responded to your question, so I'll weigh in here. AC
43.13-1b states that scratches up to 10% of the material thickness can be
polished out. Beyond that point there is a loss of strength to the part.
However, since Vans tends to "overbuild" parts, I would contact them for
advice after first determining how deep the scratches are. If in doubt,
just buy a new part.
Charlie Kuss
PS If you don't have a copy of this very useful Advisory Circular, you can
download it here.
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/99C827DB9BAAC81B86256B4500596C4E?OpenDocument
This is a 400+ page document, so it is broken up into Chapter sized Acrobat
(PDF) files. Look in Chapter 4 for advice about aluminum structures.
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David" <davewendi@comcast.net>
>
>While drilling the lightening holes in the W-621 flap braces,
>I managed to get some chips between the brace and the board it was resting
>on---on the drill press. Due to the oscillations of the flap brace as the
>fly cutter was doing its job, these shavings marred the surface of the
>aluminum. It takes some pretty aggressive use of the scotchbrite wheel to
>remove these while surely removing all of the alclad as well
>as some percentage of the thickness of the part. My question is:
>
>1) Lightly touch up the area with a scotchbrite wheel while
> not totally removing the scratch?
>2) Use the scothbrite wheel to completely remove the
> scratch?
>3) Scrap the part and start over?
>
>This is not just one scratch.
>
>Thanks,
>
>David Kirby
>RV6A-QB
>Griffin, Ga.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Too many lists? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
So what e-mail reader are you using?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Horton" <khorton01@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Too many lists?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Aaron Frechette"
<right-stuff@comcast.net>
> >
> >Tedd,
> >
> >I have to say that I don't see how The List is doing a 'good' job of
items 1
> >through 4, set aside 5. I actually feel like item 5 is a good feature to
> >have at times. Nothing like having the picture right there to help
> >communicate a point.
> >
> >1. Message presentation by thread or by date
> >2. Option for web browsing or individual e-mails sent
> >3. Good search functionality
> >4. Good categorization
> >5. Ability to include pics and files WITH messages
> >6. Ability to post & store pictures in a gallery
> >7. Ability to post & store files someplace central
> >
> >I suppose it has to do with the standards by which you judge these
criteria.
> >I personally feel like the mailing lists are an cumbersome means for
sharing
> >and organizing information when compared to discussion boards like, for
> >example www.glocktalk.com, which runs on vBulletin. IMO, going from a
board
> >like this to The List is like going from Windows back to DOS. Well,
maybe
> >not that extreme. I'll just say that web boards work well for me.
> >
> >Aaron Frechette
>
> In large part it depends on what e-mail client you use, and what you
> do with the messages after you get them. My e-mail client will sort
> messages by thread, and sort the threads by date. I read the threads
> with interesting subject lines, and delete the others. If I ever see
> a message with a good idea I change the subject to be more
> descriptive, then save a copy in a folder, with a different folder
> for each main area of interest. My e-mail client has an excellent
> search function, so I can quickly find a saved message years later if
> need be.
> --
> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
> Ottawa, Canada
> http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
>
>
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Subject: | Grand Rapids Horizon 1 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
***********SNIP Subject: RE: RV-List: Grand Rapids Horizon 1
I'm having dual GRT EFIS installed. I haven't had a single problem with
them, of course, I haven't flown yet either. I'll report initial
impressions next week.
Chuck SNIP************
I have flown mine. It is a great product. I have 5 hours behind it now
and it is amazing how much stuff it will do. It will probably take me
the entire test period to fully grasp all of the cool things it will do.
BTW, it is as they claim FULLY sunlight readable. I had mine slightly
dimmed yesterday and could still easily read it in sunlight WITH my
sunglasses on!
Vince Frazier
F-1H Rocket, N540VF
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
I hadn't really paid that much attention to it but now that you mention
it I don't recall ever seeing any results from the Yahoo Groups. Hmmm,
let's try to figure out why that would be... competing search engines
maybe? I'll try to pay more careful attention.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mickey Coggins
Subject: RE: RV-List: Too many lists?
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>That's what Google is for! It will find it on Matt's list or just
about
>any where else it might be.
I have not been able to get Google to find information
on the Yahoo groups. Is there a trick that I don't
know about?
Thanks,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
==
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Subject: | Re: Slider Tip-Up Mod |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
My experience is similar - I would like to see Dale's simplification though.....
-----Original Message-----
From: DWENSING@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Slider Tip-Up Mod
--> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
In a message dated 10/24/04 8:45:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tony@lambros.com writes:
> A fellow RVR Rich Meske some years ago developed a tip up mod for an RV6
> slider. He sells a kit for the conversion at www.aircraftextras.com
>
> Anyone had experience with this mod? How much time does it take to install?
> Upsides? Downsides?
>
Tony,
First, the plane is not yet flying (will be very soon) but I do not expect
any problems.
The installation is a little time consuming but worth it in my opinion. I
simplified the mechanism that releases the canopy to slide back and allow the
rear slider block to disengage the track but other wise installed it as supplied.
The included instructions could be better but you get the idea of what is to
be done. i.e. the screws holding down the side slider tracks must be changed
to countersunk flat head screws. The instructions say nothing about that.
The tip up ability has been a very nice attribute even in the construction
phase. Used it again yesterday as I was installing the luggage area tie down
ring bases. I believe there will be many times in the flying future that the
feature will be most appreciated
I am glad I spent the money and the time to install it.
Maybe one downside.........now my wife thinks she can get a bigger piece of
luggage into the plane!
Dale Ensing
RV-6A N118DE
ready for FAA in about a week!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
I too have been keeping a close eye on the DeltaHawk. I've finally marked it
"mostly" off my list. Now, I'm still couple/serveral/many years away from an
engine purchase so my opinion may change.
My painpoints where:
- Very very new.
- When it/something breaks what about parts? I know they are trying to get a
distribution network going but I don't believe it exists today.
- What happens if they don't make it and 5/10/... yrs from now I need a part
that only they can supply.
- Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel is
6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs of
extra weight for full tanks.
- Unlike in Europe, the price difference between Jet-A and 100LL doesn't seem
to justify itself. A recent check on www.AirNav.com shows that the average
price in the Austin,TX area is $2.69/gal for 100LL and $2.70/gal for Jet-A.
However, deals can be had ($2.18/gal for 100LL and $2.05/gal for Jet-A) if
you're willing to travel a small distance).
At this point, I don't think it makes economic sense - at least not for me.
I'm really excited for DH and hope that they make it.
Regards,
/\/elson
Austin, TX
RV-7A
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Subject: | Root Fairings for RV4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <deanpichon@msn.com>
I used the "flat strips and rubber molding" on my -4. I bought the
corresponding RV-6 parts to make the change. I didn't like the look or fit
of the fiberglass leading edges and curved aluminum strips that came with
the kit. The flat strips and rubber moldings were very easy to fit and look
fine, in my opinion. I read that, for planes like RV's, there is no speed
penalty for this type of fairing, or lack thereof. I have been told,
however, that the lack of this intersection fillet has an adverse effect on
low speed handling, though I have never verified this.
I have about 240 hours on my -4 and am very happy with the way it flies at
all speeds. Good luck with yours.
Dean Pichon
Bolton, MA
----Original Message Follows----
From: "steve zicree" <szicree@adelphia.net>
Subject: RV-List: Root Fairings for RV4
--> RV-List message posted by: "steve zicree" <szicree@adelphia.net>
Can anybody tell me what the conventional wisdom is on root fairings? My 4
kit has some fiberglass for the front and some curved aluminum for the top.
I've seen several pics of 6's that appear to just use a flat strip with what
looks like some kind of rubber molding. I like the idea a lot and am
wondering if any 4's out there have used this.
Steve Zicree
http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Subject: | traffic warning scopes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these units?
Good
and/or bad?
Thanks!
Kim Nicholas
RV9A - flying. 13 hours
Seattle
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Subject: | Root Fairings for RV4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Moore, Warren" <Warren.Moore@TidelandsOil.com>
I went with aluminum/rubber root fairings insted of the fiberglass on my
rv4. Glad I did, was easy to do, used .025 alum. shaped by hand. Looks a lot
better...and no fiberglass. I had to modify bracket that attaches the front
of the fuel tank to the fuselage. If built to plans the bracket on the
fuselage is too large (wide) and will interfere with the aluminum strips.
Get a copy of the RV6 plans and copy those. Bought the rubber molding from
ACS.
-----Original Message-----
From: steve zicree [mailto:szicree@adelphia.net]
Subject: RV-List: Root Fairings for RV4
--> RV-List message posted by: "steve zicree" <szicree@adelphia.net>
Can anybody tell me what the conventional wisdom is on root fairings? My 4
kit has some fiberglass for the front and some curved aluminum for the top.
I've seen several pics of 6's that appear to just use a flat strip with what
looks like some kind of rubber molding. I like the idea a lot and am
wondering if any 4's out there have used this.
Steve Zicree
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<RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>, <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: | Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
Over the past few days I put together a cool (at least I think so) new tool
for the RV community. It's a weight & balance database. Enter the data for
your aircraft, and it gives you sample loading scenarios and lets you
analyze custom loading scenarios.
What's great about doing this in a central place is:
1) It's web-based and is accessible from anywhere (i.e. the computer at some
random FBO). You don't need your excel spreadsheet anymore.
2) It keeps track of the essential aircraft attributes, like engine make &
model, propeller type & material, etc. Over time we'll be able to do some
interesting aggregate queries -- for example, builders will be able to take
a "cross section" of the data and say: Let me analyze a sample loading
scenario on a VIRTUAL AIRCRAFT, one that represents the "average RV-whatever
with an IO-whatever and 3-blade whatever." I think the aggregate
information that this system can provide will become very interesting to
builders. I base this statement off the many requests I've seen on the
email lists for stuff like "Can somebody with X configuration tell me what
the CG ends up being?"
FYI -- the core aircraft fields are catered to 2-seat RVs with a single
baggage area. But you're not confined to just that...you can use "dynamic
stations" to add your own custom loading points, such as "Wingtip Lockers"
or "Fwd Baggage" or "Bomb Bay" or whatever you want.
Hopefully you guys find this useful -- it serves fliers now and it serves
builders in the future. Even if you don't see yourself using the weight &
balance analyzer very often, I encourage you at least to enter your
aircraft's data...which will help build the system on an aggregate level.
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
It's a brand new system, so there are bound to be some bugs...let me know if
you see anything funky!
Enjoy,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
P.S. -- Thanks to Carl Morgan for beta testing and coming up with some great
suggestions.
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Subject: | Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing |
0.00 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO
--> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
I'm over my head on this one! Some engine suppliers are telling me that the
forward facing injection is, "like adding 10 extra horsepower" to an engine.
Others say, "it really isn't worth it, because it makes little or no
difference." I suppose it's somewhere in between, but what do you think --
those of you who have comparative experience?
Best Wishes,
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: traffic warning scopes
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these
units? Good
and/or bad?
Thanks!
Kim Nicholas
RV9A - flying. 13 hours
Seattle
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Subject: | Re: Putting Air In Tires... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Larry,
I certainly agree. It doesn't take much of a leak to lose air from one of
these small tires.
Here is part of what I posted earlier:
I made up a tool to hold and turn the old screwdriver type of valve cap --
the kind you used to have on your bicycle that necks down to about 1/8 inch.=A0
The tool is a piece of 1/4 in. od aluminum tubing with a hole drilled across it
and a nail peened into the hole.=A0 With this tool I can reach in and take off
the valve cap, and put it back on.
The caps I use do seal off the stem and core.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying about 61 hours now)
In a message dated 10/25/04 7:27:44 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
lhelming@sigecom.net writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> Overkill? Seems that removing and replacing the stem cap should be most
> important. Without the stem cap, dirt can enter and settle in the valve
> opening. Then,,,,When you put in air next time, some of that dirt gets
> moved a bit and settles along the edge of the air tight fitting; and you
> have just built in an air leak because you did not use a stem cap.
> Best to keep dirt out of the stem. Remove and replace cap each time you
> need to add air.
>
> Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"
>
> The sincerest satisfactions in life come in doing and not dodging duty;
> in meeting and solving problems, in facing facts;
> in flying a virgin plane never flown before.
> - Richard L. Evans &Larry R Helming
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
> To: "(RV LIST)" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Putting Air In Tires...
>
>
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Subject: | (OT) Marry Me, Megan |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Persyk" <dpersyk@worldnet.att.net>
This image has nothing to do with RVs. I was so captivated by the subject
I just had to photograph it!
Image at
http://home.att.net/~dpersyk/new.htm
My RV-related page at
http://home.att.net/~dpersyk/rv6a.htm
Thank you for visiting my site.
Clear skies,
Dennis Persyk RV6A N600DP sold
Hampshire, IL
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Subject: | Counterweighted Crank |
0.00 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO
--> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
What differences or problems should I expect with a non-counterbalanced
angle valve Lycoming with a CS prop? Anybody have experience with this
combo? I am getting very close to my engine choice, but it's these little
things! :-)
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David E. Nelson
Subject: RE: RV-List: Diesel
--> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
I too have been keeping a close eye on the DeltaHawk. I've finally marked
it
"mostly" off my list. Now, I'm still couple/serveral/many years away from
an
engine purchase so my opinion may change.
My painpoints where:
- Very very new.
- When it/something breaks what about parts? I know they are trying to get
a
distribution network going but I don't believe it exists today.
- What happens if they don't make it and 5/10/... yrs from now I need a part
that only they can supply.
- Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel
is
6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs
of
extra weight for full tanks.
- Unlike in Europe, the price difference between Jet-A and 100LL doesn't
seem
to justify itself. A recent check on www.AirNav.com shows that the average
price in the Austin,TX area is $2.69/gal for 100LL and $2.70/gal for Jet-A.
However, deals can be had ($2.18/gal for 100LL and $2.05/gal for Jet-A) if
you're willing to travel a small distance).
At this point, I don't think it makes economic sense - at least not for me.
I'm really excited for DH and hope that they make it.
Regards,
/\/elson
Austin, TX
RV-7A
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Subject: | Re: Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
The best part of injection is to be able to adjust each jet so every
cylinder will peak at the same time. More good news you dont need GAMI
injectors ($800) to do this, Air Flow Performance can for tweak each
injector for $15 each! My cylinders peak with in .1 GPH of each other. Good
for .3~.7 GPH savings. Now if you want to run LOP you can save about 1 to
1.5 GPH total. The engine also runs smoother with balanced fuel flow. Need
an engine analyzer to do this though. You do have one right, how can you
not on a $20K engine? At least thats the way I look at it. I know a guy who
told me that if it was not for his engine analyzer he would have continued
flying and 99% sure, would have blown a cylinder off his engine, the
bolts/studs that retain the cylinder, most had snapped off and it was
probably a matter of minutes before the cylinder launched. Because of his
analyzer he was able to see a problem and land. As far as added HP I would
say it may add a couple on a good day.
At 10:27 AM 10/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
>I'm over my head on this one! Some engine suppliers are telling me that the
>forward facing injection is, "like adding 10 extra horsepower" to an engine.
>Others say, "it really isn't worth it, because it makes little or no
>difference." I suppose it's somewhere in between, but what do you think --
>those of you who have comparative experience?
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>Kathleen Evans
>www.rv7.us
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: traffic warning scopes
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
>In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
>
>warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
>manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these
>units? Good
>and/or bad?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Kim Nicholas
>RV9A - flying. 13 hours
>Seattle
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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Subject: | Re: Counterweighted Crank |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Kathleen,
I came across my engine on (would you believe) eBay! It was an IO-360-C1E6
which has the counterweights. I had to put a -A1A sump on it to clear the
engine mount on my 7A because the sump sets farther aft on the -C1E6. That should
make my engine a -A1B6. Now all this has nothing to do with counterweights,
except to make you aware that some other things can get you too!
I am in the process of overhauling the -A1A core that I bought for the sump.
I just bought an overhauled crankshaft which does not have counterweights.
These cranks are hard to find, and expensive -- $2900 after shopping around.
This crankshaft has the advantage of being lighter (duh!), but also the
connecting rods are lighter too, so I'm told.
From Van's manual there is a warning, "Avoid continuous operation between
2000 and 2250 r.p.m." for the -A1A (no counterweights) for the Hartzell constant
speed prop. I don't think that would be much of a factor, as I usually cruise
at 2300 or above.
I'll be interested in seeing what the listers have to say about this subject.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying -- 61 hours)
In a message dated 10/25/04 1:04:36 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
Kathleen@rv7.us writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
> What differences or problems should I expect with a non-counterbalanced
> angle valve Lycoming with a CS prop? Anybody have experience with this
> combo? I am getting very close to my engine choice, but it's these little
> things! :-)
>
> Kathleen Evans
> www.rv7.us
>
>
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Subject: | traffic warning scopes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
The April 2004 issue of Aviation Consumer rated both Monroy and SureCheck,
but also mentions another one called the ProxAlert.
I think they have done a follow-up on them since April, but I don't have it
at hand.
Terry
RV-8A wiring
Seattle (Lake Forest Park)
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these
units? Good
and/or bad?
Thanks!
Kim Nicholas
RV9A - flying. 13 hours
Seattle
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Subject: | Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Hey cool tool Dan.
By entering the data we have now confirmed for the world:
1. Im over weight,
2. Past the CG limits
3. Violating all of Vans recommended numbers..
Oh well, what else is new?
Thanks for goofing off and building another cool tool for us.
Mike Stewart
S8 with even greater chance of making 1-3 even worse:)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com; dan@rvproject.com
Subject: RV-List: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
Over the past few days I put together a cool (at least I think so) new
tool
for the RV community. It's a weight & balance database. Enter the data
for
your aircraft, and it gives you sample loading scenarios and lets you
analyze custom loading scenarios.
What's great about doing this in a central place is:
1) It's web-based and is accessible from anywhere (i.e. the computer at
some
random FBO). You don't need your excel spreadsheet anymore.
2) It keeps track of the essential aircraft attributes, like engine make
&
model, propeller type & material, etc. Over time we'll be able to do
some
interesting aggregate queries -- for example, builders will be able to
take
a "cross section" of the data and say: Let me analyze a sample loading
scenario on a VIRTUAL AIRCRAFT, one that represents the "average
RV-whatever
with an IO-whatever and 3-blade whatever." I think the aggregate
information that this system can provide will become very interesting to
builders. I base this statement off the many requests I've seen on the
email lists for stuff like "Can somebody with X configuration tell me
what
the CG ends up being?"
FYI -- the core aircraft fields are catered to 2-seat RVs with a single
baggage area. But you're not confined to just that...you can use
"dynamic
stations" to add your own custom loading points, such as "Wingtip
Lockers"
or "Fwd Baggage" or "Bomb Bay" or whatever you want.
Hopefully you guys find this useful -- it serves fliers now and it
serves
builders in the future. Even if you don't see yourself using the weight
&
balance analyzer very often, I encourage you at least to enter your
aircraft's data...which will help build the system on an aggregate
level.
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
It's a brand new system, so there are bound to be some bugs...let me
know if
you see anything funky!
Enjoy,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
P.S. -- Thanks to Carl Morgan for beta testing and coming up with some
great
suggestions.
==
==
==
==
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Subject: | Re: Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
What specifically are you looking for on this analyzer to tell you indirectly that
you are about to loose a jug? And would the GRT EIS 4000 "tell" you this
with its automated engine monitoring function?
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
>
> The best part of injection is to be able to adjust each jet so every
> cylinder will peak at the same time. More good news you dont need GAMI
> injectors ($800) to do this, Air Flow Performance can for tweak each
> injector for $15 each! My cylinders peak with in .1 GPH of each other. Good
> for .3~.7 GPH savings. Now if you want to run LOP you can save about 1 to
> 1.5 GPH total. The engine also runs smoother with balanced fuel flow. Need
> an engine analyzer to do this though. You do have one right, how can you
> not on a $20K engine? At least thats the way I look at it. I know a guy who
> told me that if it was not for his engine analyzer he would have continued
> flying and 99% sure, would have blown a cylinder off his engine, the
> bolts/studs that retain the cylinder, most had snapped off and it was
> probably a matter of minutes before the cylinder launched. Because of his
> analyzer he was able to see a problem and land. As far as added HP I would
> say it may add a couple on a good day.
>
>
> At 10:27 AM 10/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
> >
> >I'm over my head on this one! Some engine suppliers are telling me that the
> >forward facing injection is, "like adding 10 extra horsepower" to an engine.
> >Others say, "it really isn't worth it, because it makes little or no
> >difference." I suppose it's somewhere in between, but what do you think --
> >those of you who have comparative experience?
> >
> >Best Wishes,
> >
> >Kathleen Evans
> >www.rv7.us
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV-List: traffic warning scopes
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
> >
> >In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
> >
> >warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
> >manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these
> >units? Good
> >and/or bad?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Kim Nicholas
> >RV9A - flying. 13 hours
> >Seattle
> >
> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
>
>
>
>
What specifically are you looking for on this analyzer to tell you indirectly that
you are about to loose a jug? And would the GRT EIS 4000 "tell" you this with
its automated engine monitoring function?
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <BILINSKI@KYOCERA-WIRELESS.COM>
The best part of injection is to be able to adjust each jet so every
cylinder will peak at the same time. More good news you dont need GAMI
injectors ($800) to do this, Air Flow Performance can for tweak each
injector for $15 each! My cylinders peak with in .1 GPH of each other. Good
for .3~.7 GPH savings. Now if you want to run LOP you can save about 1 to
1.5 GPH total. The engine also runs smoother with balanced fuel flow. Need
an engine analyzer to do this though. You do have one right, how can you
not on a $20K engine? At least thats the way I look at it. I know a guy who
told me that if it was not for his engine analyzer he would have continued
flyin
g and 99% sure, would have blown a cylinder off his engine, the
bolts/studs that retain the cylinder, most had snapped off and it was
probably a matter of minutes before the cylinder launched. Because of his
analyzer he was able to see a problem and land. As far as added HP I would
say it may add a couple on a good day.
At 10:27 AM 10/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
-- RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
I'm over my head on this one! Some engine suppliers are telling me that the
forward facing injection is, "like adding 10 extra horsepower" to an engine.
Others say, "it really isn't worth it, because it makes little or no
difference." I suppose it's somewhere in between, but what do you think --
those of you who have comparative experience?
Best Wishes,
Kathleen Ev
ans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: traffic warning scopes
-- RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these
units? Good
and/or bad?
Thanks!
Kim Nicholas
RV9A - flying. 13 hours
Seattle
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list
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Subject: | Re: Bottom Airbox or Forward Facing |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
What specifically are you looking for on this analyzer to tell you indirectly that
you are about to loose a jug? And would the GRT EIS 4000 "tell" you this
with its automated engine monitoring function?
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
>
> The best part of injection is to be able to adjust each jet so every
> cylinder will peak at the same time. More good news you dont need GAMI
> injectors ($800) to do this, Air Flow Performance can for tweak each
> injector for $15 each! My cylinders peak with in .1 GPH of each other. Good
> for .3~.7 GPH savings. Now if you want to run LOP you can save about 1 to
> 1.5 GPH total. The engine also runs smoother with balanced fuel flow. Need
> an engine analyzer to do this though. You do have one right, how can you
> not on a $20K engine? At least thats the way I look at it. I know a guy who
> told me that if it was not for his engine analyzer he would have continued
> flying and 99% sure, would have blown a cylinder off his engine, the
> bolts/studs that retain the cylinder, most had snapped off and it was
> probably a matter of minutes before the cylinder launched. Because of his
> analyzer he was able to see a problem and land. As far as added HP I would
> say it may add a couple on a good day.
>
>
> At 10:27 AM 10/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
> >
> >I'm over my head on this one! Some engine suppliers are telling me that the
> >forward facing injection is, "like adding 10 extra horsepower" to an engine.
> >Others say, "it really isn't worth it, because it makes little or no
> >difference." I suppose it's somewhere in between, but what do you think --
> >those of you who have comparative experience?
> >
> >Best Wishes,
> >
> >Kathleen Evans
> >www.rv7.us
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV-List: traffic warning scopes
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
> >
> >In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
> >
> >warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
> >manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these
> >units? Good
> >and/or bad?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Kim Nicholas
> >RV9A - flying. 13 hours
> >Seattle
> >
> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
>
>
>
>
What specifically are you looking for on this analyzer to tell you indirectly that
you are about to loose a jug? And would the GRT EIS 4000 "tell" you this with
its automated engine monitoring function?
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <BILINSKI@KYOCERA-WIRELESS.COM>
The best part of injection is to be able to adjust each jet so every
cylinder will peak at the same time. More good news you dont need GAMI
injectors ($800) to do this, Air Flow Performance can for tweak each
injector for $15 each! My cylinders peak with in .1 GPH of each other. Good
for .3~.7 GPH savings. Now if you want to run LOP you can save about 1 to
1.5 GPH total. The engine also runs smoother with balanced fuel flow. Need
an engine analyzer to do this though. You do have one right, how can you
not on a $20K engine? At least thats the way I look at it. I know a guy who
told me that if it was not for his engine analyzer he would have continued
flyin
g and 99% sure, would have blown a cylinder off his engine, the
bolts/studs that retain the cylinder, most had snapped off and it was
probably a matter of minutes before the cylinder launched. Because of his
analyzer he was able to see a problem and land. As far as added HP I would
say it may add a couple on a good day.
At 10:27 AM 10/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
-- RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
I'm over my head on this one! Some engine suppliers are telling me that the
forward facing injection is, "like adding 10 extra horsepower" to an engine.
Others say, "it really isn't worth it, because it makes little or no
difference." I suppose it's somewhere in between, but what do you think --
those of you who have comparative experience?
Best Wishes,
Kathleen Ev
ans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: traffic warning scopes
-- RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
In this very busy Seattle airspace, I am considering an in-cockpit traffic
warning scope. I have checked several suppliers and there are 2
manufactures on the market. Does anyone have any experience with these
units? Good
and/or bad?
Thanks!
Kim Nicholas
RV9A - flying. 13 hours
Seattle
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list
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Subject: | Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Forgot to mention...if I left off any propeller manufacturers (I see some
people have already selected "Other") just let me know what they are and
I'll add 'em.
do not archive
)_( Dan
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Subject: | [ Bob Olds ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Bob Olds <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
Subject: RV-4 Canopy Latch Bars
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Oldsfolks@aol.com.10.25.2004/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures@matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Putting Air In Tires... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Hate to beat a dead horse but I posted on "photo share" 7-27-2003 pictures
of a wheel pants mod to gain access to put air in the tires. Old photos,
finish product looks a LOT better but there are 4 photo's and a parts list.
It's quick, cheap and it works. KABONG Do Not Archive HRII N561FS 200hr
plus
Subject: Re: RV-List: Putting Air In Tires...
> --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
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Subject: | Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Howzabout Catto Props? Great gadget! When do the graphic envelopes get
implemented? :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: RV-List: Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Forgot to mention...if I left off any propeller manufacturers (I see
some
people have already selected "Other") just let me know what they are and
I'll add 'em.
do not archive
)_( Dan
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Subject: | Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
Dan,
I entered my empty cg of 67.9 and the program changed it to 0.06.
Ross Mickey
N9PT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com; dan@rvproject.com
Subject: RV-List: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
Over the past few days I put together a cool (at least I think so) new
tool
for the RV community. It's a weight & balance database. Enter the data
for
your aircraft, and it gives you sample loading scenarios and lets you
analyze custom loading scenarios.
What's great about doing this in a central place is:
1) It's web-based and is accessible from anywhere (i.e. the computer at
some
random FBO). You don't need your excel spreadsheet anymore.
2) It keeps track of the essential aircraft attributes, like engine make
&
model, propeller type & material, etc. Over time we'll be able to do
some
interesting aggregate queries -- for example, builders will be able to
take
a "cross section" of the data and say: Let me analyze a sample loading
scenario on a VIRTUAL AIRCRAFT, one that represents the "average
RV-whatever
with an IO-whatever and 3-blade whatever." I think the aggregate
information that this system can provide will become very interesting to
builders. I base this statement off the many requests I've seen on the
email lists for stuff like "Can somebody with X configuration tell me
what
the CG ends up being?"
FYI -- the core aircraft fields are catered to 2-seat RVs with a single
baggage area. But you're not confined to just that...you can use
"dynamic
stations" to add your own custom loading points, such as "Wingtip
Lockers"
or "Fwd Baggage" or "Bomb Bay" or whatever you want.
Hopefully you guys find this useful -- it serves fliers now and it
serves
builders in the future. Even if you don't see yourself using the weight
&
balance analyzer very often, I encourage you at least to enter your
aircraft's data...which will help build the system on an aggregate
level.
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
It's a brand new system, so there are bound to be some bugs...let me
know if
you see anything funky!
Enjoy,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
P.S. -- Thanks to Carl Morgan for beta testing and coming up with some
great
suggestions.
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Subject: | Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> Howzabout Catto Props? Great gadget! When do the graphic envelopes get
> implemented? :-)
In there. Thanks. I've added Hamilton Standard, Sterba, Aymar-Demuth, and
Catto. Any others, just email me offline and I'll get 'em in there asap.
Graphic envelope...coming soon...
do not archive
)_( Dan
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Subject: | Re: Counterweighted Crank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
My .02....
With my choice of an MT CS three blade prop - MT recommended the counterweighted
crankshaft for over 160HP.
No personal experience - but I have been told that the counterweights add a significant
amount of smoothness.....
Ralph Capen
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen@rv7.us
Subject: RV-List: Counterweighted Crank
--> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
What differences or problems should I expect with a non-counterbalanced
angle valve Lycoming with a CS prop? Anybody have experience with this
combo? I am getting very close to my engine choice, but it's these little
things! :-)
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David E. Nelson
Subject: RE: RV-List: Diesel
--> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
I too have been keeping a close eye on the DeltaHawk. I've finally marked
it
"mostly" off my list. Now, I'm still couple/serveral/many years away from
an
engine purchase so my opinion may change.
My painpoints where:
- Very very new.
- When it/something breaks what about parts? I know they are trying to get
a
distribution network going but I don't believe it exists today.
- What happens if they don't make it and 5/10/... yrs from now I need a part
that only they can supply.
- Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel
is
6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs
of
extra weight for full tanks.
- Unlike in Europe, the price difference between Jet-A and 100LL doesn't
seem
to justify itself. A recent check on www.AirNav.com shows that the average
price in the Austin,TX area is $2.69/gal for 100LL and $2.70/gal for Jet-A.
However, deals can be had ($2.18/gal for 100LL and $2.05/gal for Jet-A) if
you're willing to travel a small distance).
At this point, I don't think it makes economic sense - at least not for me.
I'm really excited for DH and hope that they make it.
Regards,
/\/elson
Austin, TX
RV-7A
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Subject: | Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> I entered my empty cg of 67.9 and the program changed it to 0.06.
You entered your empty CG where it asked for the empty MOMENT. 8-) I fixed
it in the db.
I saw a few people did this, so I added a little warning that will detect
this and prevent it from happening.
do not archive
)_( Dan
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Subject: | Re: Counterweighted Crank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" <ku-tec@bigpond.net.au>
Kathleen
All constant speed propeller manufacturers, both metal and composite, with
the exception of Aero Composites, state that with a non counterweighted
crankshaft you must not run the engine continuously in the 2000-2300 rpm
range.
Wayne Glasser
----- Original Message -----
From: <Kathleen@rv7.us>
Subject: RV-List: Counterweighted Crank
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
> What differences or problems should I expect with a non-counterbalanced
> angle valve Lycoming with a CS prop? Anybody have experience with this
> combo? I am getting very close to my engine choice, but it's these little
> things! :-)
>
> Kathleen Evans
> www.rv7.us
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David E. Nelson
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Diesel
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
>
>
> I too have been keeping a close eye on the DeltaHawk. I've finally marked
> it
> "mostly" off my list. Now, I'm still couple/serveral/many years away from
> an
> engine purchase so my opinion may change.
>
> My painpoints where:
>
> - Very very new.
>
> - When it/something breaks what about parts? I know they are trying to
> get
> a
> distribution network going but I don't believe it exists today.
>
> - What happens if they don't make it and 5/10/... yrs from now I need a
> part
>
> that only they can supply.
>
> - Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel
> is
> 6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs
> of
> extra weight for full tanks.
>
> - Unlike in Europe, the price difference between Jet-A and 100LL doesn't
> seem
> to justify itself. A recent check on www.AirNav.com shows that the
> average
> price in the Austin,TX area is $2.69/gal for 100LL and $2.70/gal for
> Jet-A.
> However, deals can be had ($2.18/gal for 100LL and $2.05/gal for Jet-A) if
> you're willing to travel a small distance).
>
> At this point, I don't think it makes economic sense - at least not for
> me.
>
> I'm really excited for DH and hope that they make it.
>
> Regards,
> /\/elson
> Austin, TX
> RV-7A
>
>
>
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vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Anyone living in or around Plano, TX know of any hangar space available and
the costs... Also, anyone know of any airparks in the area that are
affordable?
-Bill
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Subject: | Scratches in aluminum |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
David,
Depending on how deep the scratches you may just be able to buff them a
little with a scotchbrite wheel and prime them, or if the scratches are too
deep you may just want to scape the piece and start over. Losing the alclad
covering itself is not a reason to scrape the piece provided you substitute
the alclad with primer.
Mike Robertson
>From: "David" <davewendi@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: "RV-List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Scratches in aluminum
>Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:50:01 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David" <davewendi@comcast.net>
>
>While drilling the lightening holes in the W-621 flap braces,
>I managed to get some chips between the brace and the board it was resting
>on---on the drill press. Due to the oscillations of the flap brace as the
>fly cutter was doing its job, these shavings marred the surface of the
>aluminum. It takes some pretty aggressive use of the scotchbrite wheel to
>remove these while surely removing all of the alclad as well
>as some percentage of the thickness of the part. My question is:
>
>1) Lightly touch up the area with a scotchbrite wheel while
> not totally removing the scratch?
>2) Use the scothbrite wheel to completely remove the
> scratch?
>3) Scrap the part and start over?
>
>This is not just one scratch.
>
>Thanks,
>
>David Kirby
>RV6A-QB
>Griffin, Ga.
>
>
On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to
get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
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Subject: | Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott VanArtsdalen" <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Too cool!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> Howzabout Catto Props? Great gadget! When do the graphic envelopes
get
> implemented? :-)
In there. Thanks. I've added Hamilton Standard, Sterba, Aymar-Demuth,
and
Catto. Any others, just email me offline and I'll get 'em in there
asap.
Graphic envelope...coming soon...
do not archive
)_( Dan
==
==
==
==
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Subject: | Re: Tail Lynx tailwheel springs |
--> RV-List message posted by: RobHickman@aol.com
I have been using them for 2 years and they work great!
Rob Hickman
N401RH RV-4
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Subject: | ACS - RV Control Cables |
--> RV-List message posted by: Aircraft Spruce <fun_plane@yahoo.com>
RV CONTROLS CABLES:
One of our customers recently posted a message to the
group about two special order ACS controls that he was
stuck with because they did not work properly for his
RV. Aircraft Spruce has accepted them back and issued
a credit for them, but we thought we better make some
new part numbers for controls for the Vans series
aircraft to spare other builders this problem. We now
have A1760 Cans control cables under part number
05-01435 and A800 Vans control cable under part number
05-01436 both at $139.00. The builder will need to
specify the knob color, overall length, and the stroke
length
(from several choices) when ordering. Standard A1760
and A800 controls will not work for RV aircraft but
these special Vans controls from ACS Products Co. will
work very well in RV applications.
Jim Irwin,
President, Aircraft Spruce
_______________________________
Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now.
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Subject: | Re: Too many lists? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Here, here!
I find the RV-list to be THE best overall tool for exchanging information.
Immediate posting of questions and answers (no moderators), and a vast
storehouse of knowledge in the easy-to-search archives. Sure, there is junk
content (perhaps this note?), but the delete key hasn't failed anyone yet...
Which brings up my main point: Since we already have a huge storehouse of
knowledge in the RV-list Archives, why diminish the usefulness of that tool
by using other forums? In the end, multiple forums are a recipe for
inefficiency, with data spread among numerous websites, and no single place
to go when you need an answer (or opinion) at 3:00 AM.... Quite frankly, the
total volume of posts on the collective RV-related lists would go down by
75% or more if people would take 5 minutes to search the RV-list Archives
before they post.
KB
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Too many lists?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Mickey you will not get that. The Yahoo groups do not get crawled by
> google.
> My major issue with Yahoo has been its search ability. Searching the
> yahoo groups are useless. It is pointless to go through an intelligent
> Yahoo discussion of future need to know items if you cant get to it
> later.
>
> Yahoo groups are VERY GOOD for day to day information exchange. Perfect
> for local people to keep up to speed with each other. But as far as a
> global exchange of information for our kids to learn from, forget it.
>
> The rv-list has saved my butt more than 100 times when I needed and
> answer to a ? and I have no doubt my life would have been even more
> miserable building the 6 w/o the rv-list and its years of information to
> search.
>
> I do not bother getting involved with other BB's as there is no way to
> know if they will be there in the future to get the information from. I
> personally need only 2 lists.
> 1. RV-list for intelligent exchange of information by some very
> intelligent people for future reference.
> 2. Yahoo groups for local day to day stuff as a communication babble
> tool
>
> Mike Stewart
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mickey Coggins
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Too many lists?
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
>
>>That's what Google is for! It will find it on Matt's list or just
> about
>>any where else it might be.
>
> I have not been able to get Google to find information
> on the Yahoo groups. Is there a trick that I don't
> know about?
>
> Thanks,
> Mickey
>
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Scratches in aluminum |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David" <davewendi@comcast.net>
The more I read, the more I wonder. Is there any
such thing as a superficial scratch, or is anything
deeper than a scratch made by a scotchbrite pad
too deep? If a 10% depth is the limit for buffing out
does a 1% depth or 1/2% depth or any other seemingly insignificant scratch
need to be addressed at all? I've got a gazillion of these, some of which
were caused simply by drilling a hole where the still attatched waste was
spinning with the bit.
Others were are caused simply by fitting and refitting
parts. I may just be over cautious, but if I'm going to do this, I want to
do it right.
P.S.---How do I determine the depth of a scratch?
Thanks again,
David Kirby
RV6A-QB
Griffin, Ga.
On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to
> get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
========================================================================
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi,
Anyone have some suggestions of people that make
RV8 seats and/or covers? I've tried flightline
interiors, but they don't seem to make RV8 seats,
according to their website. I've got a set of
the Jon Johanson seats, but I don't think I'll
use those.
Thanks,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Saffold" <michaelsaffold@hotmail.com>
I'm looking for a mid to high time ready to fly O-320 for my RV-7 project.
I know putting a 320 in a 7 is odd. In fact, Vans said they never sell that engine
mount.
Here is my plan and I welcome input:
I think rotary engines have some interesting characteristics and plan on going
that way. Unfortunately there are no real firewall forward systems available.
So, you pretty much have to role your own installation. Not terribly difficult,
but I do think very time consuming. I'm going to install an O-320 and a very
basic VFR panel now, to get in the air as quickly and cheaply as possible. This
will be what I call my RV-7Mk1. Then, when I start looking at my empty workshop
and get the itch to start building again, I will begin RV-7Mk2. I can
tinker with the Renesis rotary engine on a test stand in my workshop and still
enjoy flying Mk1. Custom ceramic coated exhaust fabrication, supercharger install,
etc etc. can all be worked on while still flying Mk1. All my projects get
hit by the "while your doing that you might as well do this" syndrome and with
all the custom mods I have in mind for the RV it occurred to me I might never
get into the air. I believe every modification to the stock plans adds a bunch
of time and unforeseen consequences. Custom carbon fiber instrument panels,
left side throttle quadrants, home made EFIS etc etc. Of course I'll have
to take the plane off line for installation but I will have been flying it for
over a year or so anyway. I may not even lose much when I sell the 320.
Thoughts on this two phase idea and any leads on an O-320 very much appreciated.
Michael L Saffold
Phoenix AZ
My (badly in need of updating) RV-7 website: http://members.cox.net/msaffold
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Subject: | Re: O-320 needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Ammeter <jammeter@comcast.net>
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:49:11 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Saffold" <michaelsaffold@hotmail.com>
>
>I'm looking for a mid to high time ready to fly O-320 for my RV-7 project.
>
>I know putting a 320 in a 7 is odd. In fact, Vans said they never sell that engine
mount.
>
Michael:
What is odd about installing an O-320 in an RV-7?
Do not archive.
John Ammeter
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Subject: | Re: Too many lists? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
I'm using Eudora, but there are probably other equally good e-mail
programs around. I'm using Eudora.
http://www.eudora.com/
I'm using the Mac version, but I think the Windows version has a
similar set of features. I'm using it in "Sponsored" mode, which
means it has a little square window with an ad in it. "Free" mode
has no adds, but fewer features. "Paid" mode has no adds, and it
also has spam filtering. I use PopFile, a very good, free e-mail
filter to take care of my span, so I don't need Eudora's "Paid" mode.
Kevin Horton
do not archive
>--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
>So what e-mail reader are you using?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kevin Horton" <khorton01@rogers.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Too many lists?
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>>
>> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Aaron Frechette"
><right-stuff@comcast.net>
>> >
>> >Tedd,
>> >
>> >I have to say that I don't see how The List is doing a 'good' job of
>items 1
>> >through 4, set aside 5. I actually feel like item 5 is a good feature to
>> >have at times. Nothing like having the picture right there to help
>> >communicate a point.
>> >
>> >1. Message presentation by thread or by date
>> >2. Option for web browsing or individual e-mails sent
>> >3. Good search functionality
>> >4. Good categorization
>> >5. Ability to include pics and files WITH messages
>> >6. Ability to post & store pictures in a gallery
>> >7. Ability to post & store files someplace central
>> >
>> >I suppose it has to do with the standards by which you judge these
>criteria.
>> >I personally feel like the mailing lists are an cumbersome means for
>sharing
>> >and organizing information when compared to discussion boards like, for
>> >example www.glocktalk.com, which runs on vBulletin. IMO, going from a
>board
>> >like this to The List is like going from Windows back to DOS. Well,
>maybe
>> >not that extreme. I'll just say that web boards work well for me.
>> >
>> >Aaron Frechette
>>
>> In large part it depends on what e-mail client you use, and what you
>> do with the messages after you get them. My e-mail client will sort
>> messages by thread, and sort the threads by date. I read the threads
>> with interesting subject lines, and delete the others. If I ever see
>> a message with a good idea I change the subject to be more
>> descriptive, then save a copy in a folder, with a different folder
>> for each main area of interest. My e-mail client has an excellent
>> search function, so I can quickly find a saved message years later if
>> need be.
>> --
>> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
>> Ottawa, Canada
> > http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
>>
> >
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Erdmann's" <erdmannb@execpc.com>
Hi Mickey, Yes, we do make the seats for the RV8, I haven't had a chance
to update the website. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you, Abby
Flightline Interiors
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Subject: RV-List: RV8 seats
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have some suggestions of people that make
> RV8 seats and/or covers? I've tried flightline
> interiors, but they don't seem to make RV8 seats,
> according to their website. I've got a set of
> the Jon Johanson seats, but I don't think I'll
> use those.
>
> Thanks,
> Mickey
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
>
>- Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel is
>6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs of
>extra weight for full tanks.
But, diesel fuel has more energy per gallon too, so it's like you get
bigger gas tanks without having to make the mod yourself. And the
diesel engine burns less weight fuel to make the same amount of
power. So even if you put the same weight diesel fuel as you would
get with full tanks of gasoline, you can fly further with diesel
power than with gasoline.
The higher density is a plus, not a minus. You don't need to fill
the tanks all the way up if you don't want to.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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Subject: | Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
You will be hard pressed to beat the Grand Rapids units. I've been flying
them for about a month now and never fail to be amazed at the offerings. If
you want HSI you've got one, highway in the sky, vertical navigation etc.
etc. you've got it and it keeps getting better with each software revision.
They are in my opinion the best cost / performance out there.
Regards,
David Schaefer
RV6A "Geek One" N142DS Flying!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bordelon, Greg
Subject: RE: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
Good question Chuck.
I want to use it IFR and VFR, today and tomorrow.
I want to pull my DG out and throw it on the hangar floor.... and put
something electronic in its place, and not an "electric DG" either.
I already have an indicator for my Garmin 430....so I don't have to have
an HSI function in the DG but would use it if it were there. Anything
else is a freebie since I already have all the other necessary IFR
flight instruments installed.
I saw the BMA G3 Lite (in HSI mode) and wondered if I could use it in
place of my DG. I wonder how it would respond in IFR flight. Then I
wondered what else might be out there that I had not already considered.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Rowbotham
Subject: RE: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
--> <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Greg,
Are you talking VFR or IFR? Both intially and down the road?
Chuck
>From: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:07:52 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
>
>Since no one seems to be flying a Blue Mountain G3 Lite, I thought I
>ask "What else is out there as an electronic DG or HSI replacement"?
>
>I wish to replace my vacuum DG with something electronic but don't want
>to spend $10K for a Sandel or King KI-825.
>
>Any ideas??
>
>Thanks - Greg
==
==
==
==
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Subject: | Re: O-320 needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Michael Saffold wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Saffold" <michaelsaffold@hotmail.com>
>
>I'm looking for a mid to high time ready to fly O-320 for my RV-7 project.
>
>I know putting a 320 in a 7 is odd. In fact, Vans said they never sell that engine
mount.
>
>
>
It is the same engine mount as the O-360, you could be talking about
the difference between a dynafocal mount and a
conical mount.
Jerry
do not archive
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Subject: | Counterweighted Crank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rhett Westerman" <Rhettwesterman@cox.net>
Kathleen,
I do not know about the RV-7 but there are C/S MT props that do not require
the counterbalanced crank. I know as I have one an 0-360 A1A with an MT
prop, although not for the RV-7.
It is a function of the plane, engine and prop
best,
Rhett
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne Glasser
Subject: Re: RV-List: Counterweighted Crank
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" <ku-tec@bigpond.net.au>
Kathleen
All constant speed propeller manufacturers, both metal and composite, with
the exception of Aero Composites, state that with a non counterweighted
crankshaft you must not run the engine continuously in the 2000-2300 rpm
range.
Wayne Glasser
----- Original Message -----
From: <Kathleen@rv7.us>
Subject: RV-List: Counterweighted Crank
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
> What differences or problems should I expect with a non-counterbalanced
> angle valve Lycoming with a CS prop? Anybody have experience with this
> combo? I am getting very close to my engine choice, but it's these little
> things! :-)
>
> Kathleen Evans
> www.rv7.us
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David E. Nelson
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Diesel
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
>
>
> I too have been keeping a close eye on the DeltaHawk. I've finally marked
> it
> "mostly" off my list. Now, I'm still couple/serveral/many years away from
> an
> engine purchase so my opinion may change.
>
> My painpoints where:
>
> - Very very new.
>
> - When it/something breaks what about parts? I know they are trying to
> get
> a
> distribution network going but I don't believe it exists today.
>
> - What happens if they don't make it and 5/10/... yrs from now I need a
> part
>
> that only they can supply.
>
> - Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel
> is
> 6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs
> of
> extra weight for full tanks.
>
> - Unlike in Europe, the price difference between Jet-A and 100LL doesn't
> seem
> to justify itself. A recent check on www.AirNav.com shows that the
> average
> price in the Austin,TX area is $2.69/gal for 100LL and $2.70/gal for
> Jet-A.
> However, deals can be had ($2.18/gal for 100LL and $2.05/gal for Jet-A) if
> you're willing to travel a small distance).
>
> At this point, I don't think it makes economic sense - at least not for
> me.
>
> I'm really excited for DH and hope that they make it.
>
> Regards,
> /\/elson
> Austin, TX
> RV-7A
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Tail Lynx tailwheel springs |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Daniels <jwdanie@comcast.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: RobHickman@aol.com
>
> I have been using them for 2 years and they work great!
Hi Rob,
i was just curious how much slack you ended up using? The
recommended 3/8"per side or something else?
Jim Daniels
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Subject: | Avionics cooling |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <cweyant@chuckdirect.com>
Has anyone out there used a blast tube from the naca fresh air vents to cool their
avionics stack? What's the good and the bad --- from experience please, not
conjecture. I've installed a small fan from a computer and directed it at
the radio stack but I don't think it's doing the job of cooling, especially when
I've got the heater vent on. I've checked the archives and found seven listings,
none which answer my question.
Chuck Weyant
RV9A --- 32 hours and loving it!!!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <cweyant@chuckdirect.com>
Let me put in my two cents worth Mickey. I just had Abby do a complete
interior for my recently completed 9A. I can tell you that her work is as
advertised and attested to by those of us who have bought her interiors.
Even after all the build up, I was still shocked at the quality and
completeness of her pieces when I opened the box. I've heard great things
about Becki O. too, but there's more work to do with hers. All of Abby's
stuff is precut, even the foam for under the floor matting! And it fits
perfectly! Thanks Abby, you're a pro!
Chuck Weyant N8058V
RV9A --- 30 hours!
> Hi Mickey, Yes, we do make the seats for the RV8, I haven't had a chance
> to update the website. Let me know if you have any other questions.
> Thank you, Abby
> Flightline Interiors
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: RV8 seats
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anyone have some suggestions of people that make
> > RV8 seats and/or covers? I've tried flightline
> > interiors, but they don't seem to make RV8 seats,
> > according to their website. I've got a set of
> > the Jon Johanson seats, but I don't think I'll
> > use those.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mickey
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Subject: | Re: Putting Air In Tires... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
I haven't tried this yet, but guys at my airport suggested using that tire
stop leak that comes in a spray can. Supposed to make aircraft tubes stop
leaking down so fast. Might work!
Richard Scott
9A Emp
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Subject: | Re: Root Fairings for RV4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
At 01:07 AM 10/25/2004, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "steve zicree" <szicree@adelphia.net>
>
>Can anybody tell me what the conventional wisdom is on root fairings? My 4
>kit has some fiberglass for the front and some curved aluminum for the
>top. I've seen several pics of 6's that appear to just use a flat strip
>with what looks like some kind of rubber molding. I like the idea a lot
>and am wondering if any 4's out there have used this.
>
>Steve Zicree
There are plenty of -4's with the flat strip/rubber moulding fairing. Mine
is that way and it works and look fine.
Louis
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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Subject: | Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite? |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
Has anyone done a side by side of the Grand Rapids to the Blue Mountain Sport?
The Blue Mountain Sport seems like a lot of bells and whistles too including an
internal GPS receiver that you have to buy separately in the GRT unit as I recall.
Sport seems to have much more in the Map/terrain than the GRT from the
web pictures I've seen.
I don't know about that opinion on best cost/performance...Show me ;-)
lucky
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer"
>
> You will be hard pressed to beat the Grand Rapids units. I've been flying
> them for about a month now and never fail to be amazed at the offerings. If
> you want HSI you've got one, highway in the sky, vertical navigation etc.
> etc. you've got it and it keeps getting better with each software revision.
>
> They are in my opinion the best cost / performance out there.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Schaefer
> RV6A "Geek One" N142DS Flying!!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bordelon, Greg
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg"
>
> Good question Chuck.
>
> I want to use it IFR and VFR, today and tomorrow.
>
> I want to pull my DG out and throw it on the hangar floor.... and put
> something electronic in its place, and not an "electric DG" either.
>
> I already have an indicator for my Garmin 430....so I don't have to have
> an HSI function in the DG but would use it if it were there. Anything
> else is a freebie since I already have all the other necessary IFR
> flight instruments installed.
>
> I saw the BMA G3 Lite (in HSI mode) and wondered if I could use it in
> place of my DG. I wonder how it would respond in IFR flight. Then I
> wondered what else might be out there that I had not already considered.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> Rowbotham
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
> -->
>
> Greg,
>
> Are you talking VFR or IFR? Both intially and down the road?
>
> Chuck
>
> >From: "Bordelon, Greg"
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To:
> >Subject: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
> >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:07:52 -0500
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg"
> >
> >Since no one seems to be flying a Blue Mountain G3 Lite, I thought I
> >ask "What else is out there as an electronic DG or HSI replacement"?
> >
> >I wish to replace my vacuum DG with something electronic but don't want
>
> >to spend $10K for a Sandel or King KI-825.
> >
> >Any ideas??
> >
> >Thanks - Greg
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
>
>
>
>
Has anyone done a side by side of the Grand Rapids to the Blue Mountain Sport?
The Blue Mountain Sport seems like a lot of bells and whistlestoo including an
internal GPS receiver that you have to buy separately in the GRT unit as I recall.
Sport seems to have much more in the Map/terrain than the GRT from the web
pictures I've seen.
I don't know about that opinion on best cost/performance...Show me ;-)
lucky
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <DSCHAEFER1@KC.RR.COM>
You will be hard pressed to beat the Grand Rapids units. I've been flying
them for about a month now and never fail to be amazed at the offerings. If
you want HSI you've got one, highway in the sky, vertical navigation etc.
etc. you've got it and it keeps getting better with each software revision.
They are in my opinion the best cost / performance out there.
Regards,
David Schaefer
RV6A "Geek One" N142DS Flying!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bordelon, Greg
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: R
V-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
-- RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <GBORDELON@HESS.COM>
Good question Chuck.
I want to use it IFR and VFR, today and tomorrow.
I want to pull my DG out and throw it on the hangar floor.... and put
something electronic in its place, and not an "electric DG" either.
I already have an indicator for my Garmin 430....so I don't have to have
an HSI function in the DG but would use it if it were there. Anything
else is a freebie since I already have all the other necessary IFR
flight instruments installed.
I saw the BMA G3 Lite (in HSI mode) and wondered if I could use it in
place of my DG. I wonder how it would respond in IFR flight. Then I
wondered what else might be out there that I had not already considered.
-----Original Message
-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Rowbotham
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
-- RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
-- <CROWBOTHAM@HOTMAIL.COM>
Greg,
Are you talking VFR or IFR? Both intially and down the road?
Chuck
From: "Bordelon, Greg" <GBORDELON@HESS.COM>
Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
To: <RV-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: RV-List: Electronic DG or HSI maybe BMA G3 Lite?
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:07:52 -0500
-- RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <GBORDELON@HESS.COM>
Since no one seems to be flying a Blue Mountain G3 Lite, I thought I
ask "Wh
at else is out there as an electronic DG or HSI replacement"?
I wish to replace my vacuum DG with something electronic but don't want
to spend $10K for a Sandel or King KI-825.
Any ideas??
Thanks - Greg
==
==
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Subject: | Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
I think a useful enhancement would be an optional comments area to be able to give
a brief explanation of major moment design decisions for current/future builder
considerations. For example on the RV8s those would be things like, forward
or aft mounted battery, ELT under VS or in Baggage compartment, altitude
hold servo in rear fuse or not, etc. Stuff like that
Also on the 8s, there's a forward and aft baggage compartment so there's a difference
on the moment of those 50 pounds.
Cool tool though.
Lucky
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
>
>
> Hey cool tool Dan.
> By entering the data we have now confirmed for the world:
> 1. Im over weight,
> 2. Past the CG limits
> 3. Violating all of Vans recommended numbers..
> Oh well, what else is new?
>
> Thanks for goofing off and building another cool tool for us.
> Mike Stewart
> S8 with even greater chance of making 1-3 even worse:)
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
> To: rv-list@matronics.com; vansairforce@yahoogroups.com;
> RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com; dan@rvproject.com
> Subject: RV-List: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway"
>
> http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
>
> Over the past few days I put together a cool (at least I think so) new
> tool
> for the RV community. It's a weight & balance database. Enter the data
> for
> your aircraft, and it gives you sample loading scenarios and lets you
> analyze custom loading scenarios.
>
> What's great about doing this in a central place is:
>
> 1) It's web-based and is accessible from anywhere (i.e. the computer at
> some
> random FBO). You don't need your excel spreadsheet anymore.
>
> 2) It keeps track of the essential aircraft attributes, like engine make
> &
> model, propeller type & material, etc. Over time we'll be able to do
> some
> interesting aggregate queries -- for example, builders will be able to
> take
> a "cross section" of the data and say: Let me analyze a sample loading
> scenario on a VIRTUAL AIRCRAFT, one that represents the "average
> RV-whatever
> with an IO-whatever and 3-blade whatever." I think the aggregate
> information that this system can provide will become very interesting to
> builders. I base this statement off the many requests I've seen on the
> email lists for stuff like "Can somebody with X configuration tell me
> what
> the CG ends up being?"
>
> FYI -- the core aircraft fields are catered to 2-seat RVs with a single
> baggage area. But you're not confined to just that...you can use
> "dynamic
> stations" to add your own custom loading points, such as "Wingtip
> Lockers"
> or "Fwd Baggage" or "Bomb Bay" or whatever you want.
>
> Hopefully you guys find this useful -- it serves fliers now and it
> serves
> builders in the future. Even if you don't see yourself using the weight
> &
> balance analyzer very often, I encourage you at least to enter your
> aircraft's data...which will help build the system on an aggregate
> level.
>
> http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
>
> It's a brand new system, so there are bound to be some bugs...let me
> know if
> you see anything funky!
>
> Enjoy,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> P.S. -- Thanks to Carl Morgan for beta testing and coming up with some
> great
> suggestions.
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
>
>
>
>
I think a useful enhancement would be an optionalcomments areato be able to give
abrief explanation of major moment design decisions for current/future builder
considerations. For example on the RV8s those would be things like, forward
or aft mounted battery, ELT under VS or in Baggage compartment, altitude hold
servo in rear fuse or not, etc. Stuff like that
Also on the 8s, there's a forward and aft baggage compartment so there's a difference
on the moment of those 50 pounds.
Cool tool though.
Lucky
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<MSTEWART@ISS.NET>
Hey cool tool Dan.
By entering the data we have now confirmed for the world:
1. Im over weight,
2. Past the CG limits
3. Violating all of Vans recommended numbers..
Oh well, what else is new?
Thanks for goofing off and building another cool tool for us.
Mike Stewart
S8 with even greater chance of making 1-3 even worse:)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
To: rv-list@matronics.com; vansairforce@yahoogroups.com;
RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com; dan@rvproject.com
Subject: RV-List: Cool new tool (weight balance database)
-- RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <DAN@RVPROJECT.COM>
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
Over the past few days I put together a cool (at least I think so) new
tool
for the RV community. It's a weight balance database. Enter the data
for
your aircraft, and it gives you sample loading scenarios and lets you
analyze custom loading scenarios.
What's great about doing this in a central place is:
1) It's web-based and is accessible from anywhere (i.e. the computer at
some
random FBO). You don't need your excel spreadsheet anymore.
2) It keeps track of the essential aircraft attributes, like engine make
model, propeller type material, etc. Over time we'll be able to do
some
inte
resting aggregate queries -- for example, builders will be able to
take
a "cross section" of the data and say: Let me analyze a sample loading
scenario on a VIRTUAL AIRCRAFT, one that represents the "average
RV-whatever
with an IO-whatever and 3-blade whatever." I think the aggregate
information that this system can provide will become very interesting to
builders. I base this statement off the many requests I've seen on the
email lists for stuff like "Can somebody with X configuration tell me
what
the CG ends up being?"
FYI -- the core aircraft fields are catered to 2-seat RVs with a single
baggage area. But you're not confined to just that...you can use
"dynamic
stations" to add your own custom loading points, such as "Wingtip
Lockers"
or "Fwd Baggage" or "Bomb Bay" or whatever you want.
Hopefully you guy
s find this useful -- it serves fliers now and it
serves
builders in the future. Even if you don't see yourself using the weight
balance analyzer very often, I encourage you at least to enter your
aircraft's data...which will help build the system on an aggregate
level.
http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
It's a brand new system, so there are bound to be some bugs...let me
know if
you see anything funky!
Enjoy,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
P.S. -- Thanks to Carl Morgan for beta testing and coming up with some
great
suggestions.
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Subject: | Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Several people have suggested a free-form field. I'll definitely add that.
It'll probably show some "crumbs" on the main table indicating comments are
available, and you can click through to read 'em. Something like that.
With respect to additional baggage compartments, the "Dynamic Stations" are
there for that purpose. See Bill Vondane's configuration for an example of
how to use this feature.
do not archive
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: lucky
Subject: RE: RV-List: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
I think a useful enhancement would be an optional comments area to be able
to give a brief explanation of major moment design decisions for
current/future builder considerations. For example on the RV8s those would
be things like, forward or aft mounted battery, ELT under VS or in Baggage
compartment, altitude hold servo in rear fuse or not, etc. Stuff like that
Also on the 8s, there's a forward and aft baggage compartment so there's a
difference on the moment of those 50 pounds.
Cool tool though.
Lucky
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
>
>
> Hey cool tool Dan.
> By entering the data we have now confirmed for the world:
> 1. Im over weight,
> 2. Past the CG limits
> 3. Violating all of Vans recommended numbers..
> Oh well, what else is new?
>
> Thanks for goofing off and building another cool tool for us.
> Mike Stewart
> S8 with even greater chance of making 1-3 even worse:)
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
> To: rv-list@matronics.com; vansairforce@yahoogroups.com;
> RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com; dan@rvproject.com
> Subject: RV-List: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway"
>
> http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
>
> Over the past few days I put together a cool (at least I think so) new
> tool
> for the RV community. It's a weight & balance database. Enter the data
> for
> your aircraft, and it gives you sample loading scenarios and lets you
> analyze custom loading scenarios.
>
> What's great about doing this in a central place is:
>
> 1) It's web-based and is accessible from anywhere (i.e. the computer at
> some
> random FBO). You don't need your excel spreadsheet anymore.
>
> 2) It keeps track of the essential aircraft attributes, like engine make
> &
> model, propeller type & material, etc. Over time we'll be able to do
> some
> interesting aggregate queries -- for example, builders will be able to
> take
> a "cross section" of the data and say: Let me analyze a sample loading
> scenario on a VIRTUAL AIRCRAFT, one that represents the "average
> RV-whatever
> with an IO-whatever and 3-blade whatever." I think the aggregate
> information that this system can provide will become very interesting to
> builders. I base this statement off the many requests I've seen on the
> email lists for stuff like "Can somebody with X configuration tell me
> what
> the CG ends up being?"
>
> FYI -- the core aircraft fields are catered to 2-seat RVs with a single
> baggage area. But you're not confined to just that...you can use
> "dynamic
> stations" to add your own custom loading points, such as "Wingtip
> Lockers"
> or "Fwd Baggage" or "Bomb Bay" or whatever you want.
>
> Hopefully you guys find this useful -- it serves fliers now and it
> serves
> builders in the future. Even if you don't see yourself using the weight
> &
> balance analyzer very often, I encourage you at least to enter your
> aircraft's data...which will help build the system on an aggregate
> level.
>
> http://www.rvproject.com/wab/
>
> It's a brand new system, so there are bound to be some bugs...let me
> know if
> you see anything funky!
>
> Enjoy,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> P.S. -- Thanks to Carl Morgan for beta testing and coming up with some
> great
> suggestions.
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Scratches in aluminum |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
David,
It's hard to give good advice on an unseen (by me) scratch over the list.
Generally, any scratch which you can feel by running your fingernail over
the scratch, should be polished out. Your fingernail will be able to detect
scratches of as little as .001" deep. The function of the part in question
makes a difference as well. I wouldn't worry to much about a scratch in a
part like the rear seater's side covers in my 8A. A scratch in a wing skin,
rib, bulkhead or other structural member should always be polished out.
Perhaps you can get an experienced A&P or another RV builder to come over
and look at your parts. Do you belong to an EAA chapter? If so, contact
your chapter tech councilor for advice.
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David" <davewendi@comcast.net>
>
>The more I read, the more I wonder. Is there any
>such thing as a superficial scratch, or is anything
>deeper than a scratch made by a scotchbrite pad
>too deep? If a 10% depth is the limit for buffing out
>does a 1% depth or 1/2% depth or any other seemingly insignificant scratch
>need to be addressed at all? I've got a gazillion of these, some of which
>were caused simply by drilling a hole where the still attatched waste was
>spinning with the bit.
>Others were are caused simply by fitting and refitting
>parts. I may just be over cautious, but if I'm going to do this, I want to
>do it right.
>
>P.S.---How do I determine the depth of a scratch?
>
>Thanks again,
>David Kirby
>RV6A-QB
>Griffin, Ga.
>
>
> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to
> > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
>========================================================================
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | ACS - RV Control Cables |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
Thanks Jim for taking interest in the RV builders group.
By monitoring this site, you have shown that you are interested in your
customers.
John Danielson
RV-6 Built, flown and sold
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aircraft Spruce
Subject: RV-List: ACS - RV Control Cables
--> RV-List message posted by: Aircraft Spruce <fun_plane@yahoo.com>
RV CONTROLS CABLES:
One of our customers recently posted a message to the
group about two special order ACS controls that he was
stuck with because they did not work properly for his
RV. Aircraft Spruce has accepted them back and issued
a credit for them, but we thought we better make some
new part numbers for controls for the Vans series
aircraft to spare other builders this problem. We now
have A1760 Cans control cables under part number
05-01435 and A800 Vans control cable under part number
05-01436 both at $139.00. The builder will need to
specify the knob color, overall length, and the stroke
length
(from several choices) when ordering. Standard A1760
and A800 controls will not work for RV aircraft but
these special Vans controls from ACS Products Co. will
work very well in RV applications.
Jim Irwin,
President, Aircraft Spruce
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--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Mickey Coggins wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
>Hi,
>
>Anyone have some suggestions of people that make
>RV8 seats and/or covers? I've tried flightline
>interiors, but they don't seem to make RV8 seats,
>according to their website. I've got a set of
>the Jon Johanson seats, but I don't think I'll
>use those.
>
>Thanks,
>Mickey
>
>--
>Mickey Coggins
>http://www.rv8.ch/
>#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
>
Len Leggette
Lenleg@aol.com
I don't know if Len will thank me or cuss at me for this, but drop him a
line & see if he's cranked up for production yet.
I've seen & ridden on the ones he made for his -8A, and they look great
& are very comfortable, at least in the back. :-)
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Hi Dan,
Great tool and lets folks see what everyone else has got - sort of you show
me yours and I'll show mine {:>).
Performance Propellers by Clark Lydick is one I would recommend to add to
the prop list - I have had two of his great wooden rock maple props and have
had excellent performance out of my overweight RV-6A powered by a rotary
engine.
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC 28105
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Cool new tool (weight & balance database)
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Forgot to mention...if I left off any propeller manufacturers (I see some
> people have already selected "Other") just let me know what they are and
> I'll add 'em.
>
> do not archive
> )_( Dan
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Too many lists? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Netscape 7.2 also works very well. Most 'aftermarket' browsers & email
readers work much better than Deplorer & Outlook Depressed.
I like Netscape because it's an integrated email handler/web browser &
has intelligent spam handling, popup blocking, cookie manager, etc. &
it's largely immune to all the virus/worm problems of the two MS programs.
http://home.netscape.com/
Charlie
Kevin Horton wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
>I'm using Eudora, but there are probably other equally good e-mail
>programs around. I'm using Eudora.
>
>http://www.eudora.com/
>
>I'm using the Mac version, but I think the Windows version has a
>similar set of features. I'm using it in "Sponsored" mode, which
>means it has a little square window with an ad in it. "Free" mode
>has no adds, but fewer features. "Paid" mode has no adds, and it
>also has spam filtering. I use PopFile, a very good, free e-mail
>filter to take care of my span, so I don't need Eudora's "Paid" mode.
>
>Kevin Horton
>do not archive
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>>
>>So what e-mail reader are you using?
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Kevin Horton" <khorton01@rogers.com>
>>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Too many lists?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>>>
>>> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Aaron Frechette"
>>>
>>>
>><right-stuff@comcast.net>
>>
>>
>>> >
>>> >Tedd,
>>> >
>>> >I have to say that I don't see how The List is doing a 'good' job of
>>>
>>>
>>items 1
>>
>>
>>> >through 4, set aside 5. I actually feel like item 5 is a good feature to
>>> >have at times. Nothing like having the picture right there to help
>>> >communicate a point.
>>> >
>>> >1. Message presentation by thread or by date
>>> >2. Option for web browsing or individual e-mails sent
>>> >3. Good search functionality
>>> >4. Good categorization
>>> >5. Ability to include pics and files WITH messages
>>> >6. Ability to post & store pictures in a gallery
>>> >7. Ability to post & store files someplace central
>>> >
>>> >I suppose it has to do with the standards by which you judge these
>>>
>>>
>>criteria.
>>
>>
>>> >I personally feel like the mailing lists are an cumbersome means for
>>>
>>>
>>sharing
>>
>>
>>> >and organizing information when compared to discussion boards like, for
>>> >example www.glocktalk.com, which runs on vBulletin. IMO, going from a
>>>
>>>
>>board
>>
>>
>>> >like this to The List is like going from Windows back to DOS. Well,
>>>
>>>
>>maybe
>>
>>
>>> >not that extreme. I'll just say that web boards work well for me.
>>> >
>>> >Aaron Frechette
>>>
>>> In large part it depends on what e-mail client you use, and what you
>>> do with the messages after you get them. My e-mail client will sort
>>> messages by thread, and sort the threads by date. I read the threads
>>> with interesting subject lines, and delete the others. If I ever see
>>> a message with a good idea I change the subject to be more
>>> descriptive, then save a copy in a folder, with a different folder
>>> for each main area of interest. My e-mail client has an excellent
>>> search function, so I can quickly find a saved message years later if
>>> need be.
>>> --
>>> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
>>> Ottawa, Canada
>>>
>>>
>> > http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
>>
>>
>> >
>>
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Subject: | Re: Putting Air In Tires... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
I don't know about using it in aircraft tires, but a product available at
most stores like Wal-Mart, called SLIME certinly works. It completely
stopped all the cactus air leaks in my tractor, and farmers swear by the
stuff. It even sealed an old wheelborrow tire that has leaked after an hour
for the past 15 years !
FWIW John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Scott" <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Putting Air In Tires...
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
>
> I haven't tried this yet, but guys at my airport suggested using that tire
> stop leak that comes in a spray can. Supposed to make aircraft tubes stop
> leaking down so fast. Might work!
>
> Richard Scott
> 9A Emp
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Putting Air In Tires... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
I had a friend try this and found that he didn't like it. I don't know
which product he used but it never complete spread out and caused them to
act like they were out of balance.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Scott" <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Putting Air In Tires...
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
>
> I haven't tried this yet, but guys at my airport suggested using that tire
> stop leak that comes in a spray can. Supposed to make aircraft tubes stop
> leaking down so fast. Might work!
>
> Richard Scott
> 9A Emp
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
I'd refer this discussion to Peter Garrison's "Technicalities" column in
Flying magazine recently. He goes to some length in comparing Thilert's
diesel to our Lycomings.
Apparently the TwinStar, on the way back to Europe, had its diesels dialled
back to less than 3 gallons-an-hour each, still putting out respectable
power and cruising speed. I think the low consumption at cruise is probably
its greatest attribute, which probably doesn't apply to zooming around the
skies in RV's.
Scott In VAncouver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Horton" <khorton01@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Diesel
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
>>
>>- Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel
>>is
>>6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs
>>of
>>extra weight for full tanks.
>
> But, diesel fuel has more energy per gallon too, so it's like you get
> bigger gas tanks without having to make the mod yourself. And the
> diesel engine burns less weight fuel to make the same amount of
> power. So even if you put the same weight diesel fuel as you would
> get with full tanks of gasoline, you can fly further with diesel
> power than with gasoline.
>
> The higher density is a plus, not a minus. You don't need to fill
> the tanks all the way up if you don't want to.
> --
> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
> Ottawa, Canada
> http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: O-320 needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Michael,
Your idea won't work. Here's why. You're going to be having so much fun
flying your airplane that you'll never work on the Mk2. It'll take 10 years to
finish it!
Just kidding. I have been thinking along the same lines. What I was
thinking was to build just another fuselage. Then when its done take the wings
and
tail off my present airplane and put them on the new fuselage. But, you know,
that idea probably won't work either. I won't want to quit flying even that
long.
Do not archive.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying since 7/7/04 -- about 61 hours now)
In a message dated 10/25/04 4:50:14 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
michaelsaffold@hotmail.com writes:
> Here is my plan and I welcome input:
> I think rotary engines have some interesting characteristics and plan on
> going that way. Unfortunately there are no real firewall forward systems
> available. So, you pretty much have to role your own installation. Not terribly
> difficult, but I do think very time consuming. I'm going to install an O-320
and
> a very basic VFR panel now, to get in the air as quickly and cheaply as
> possible. This will be what I call my RV-7Mk1. Then, when I start looking at
my
> empty workshop and get the itch to start building again, I will begin
> RV-7Mk2. I can tinker with the Renesis rotary engine on a test stand in my workshop
> and still enjoy flying Mk1. Custom ceramic coated exhaust fabrication,
> supercharger install, etc etc. can all be worked on while still flying Mk1. All
my
> projects get hit by the "while your doing that you might as well do this"
> syndrome and with all the custom mods I have in mind for the RV it occurred to
> me I might never get into the air. I believe every modification t!
> o the stock plans adds a bunch of time and unforeseen consequences. Custom
> carbon fiber instrument panels, left side throttle quadrants, home made EFIS
> etc etc. Of course I'll have to take the plane off line for installation but
> I will have been flying it for over a year or so anyway. I may not even lose
> much when I sell the 320.
>
> Thoughts on this two phase idea and any leads on an O-320 very much
> appreciated.
>
> Michael L Saffold
> Phoenix AZ
> My (badly in need of updating) RV-7 website:
> http://members.cox.net/msaffold
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
I ordered an engine from Mattituck at Sun-N-Fun this year (along with at least
17 other people that week) and was very pleased with the cooperation I received
from them. Especially since I was asking for the lightspeed ignition (one side
only, mag on other side) AND Airflow Performance Fuel Injection specifically
designed for Van's airbox(not one of Mattituck's std options). It's a 180 hp
TMX IO-360 and it cost $21K, LESS than a (carbeureted, dual mag) Lycoming from
Van's!! I considered FADEC after talking with Van's landing gear maker Harmon
Lange. Harmon built a QB RV-8A with an Aerosport O-360 (rebuilt, this was before
any mfgs started offering engines from all new replacement parts, aka Superior
or ECI). He bought the engine from Bart for $14k outright and purchased
the FADEC from Van's, entire package price $21K, about the cost of a Van's Lycoming
at that time. His philosophy in building the plane was: we have all this
latest and greatest technology, so why not use it to make my life as a pilot
as simple and safe as possible. Not having to worry about mixture and engine management
means less pilot workload and lets me keep my mind on the most important
thing (flying the airplane). He also was an early adopter of the Blue Mountain
EFIS1 and last I heard he was extremely pleased with his whole concept.
I was intrigued by this thought, WOW a FADEC equipped Lycoming for less than a
Van's Lycoming without FADEC!!! But I didn't get the FADEC. Why not? Because,
like someone else mentioned on the list, the extra cost. Since the new engines
have come out, I decided I really wanted an engine that's been made from NEW
parts and if I add the FADEC to that it ends up costing several thousand more
than a Van's Lycoming (my benchmark, I got beat that price, point). I did want
fuel injection and liked the anti-vaporlock feature of the AFP even though it's
rather pricey (Mattituck deleted the cost of the carb and added in the cost
of the fuel injection so it wasn't as big a bite as I feared) and electronic
ignition was also a need-to-have item. Yes I will have to play with the mixture
like in the old spam cans but I can live with that.
My original philosophy for installing fuel injection was two-fold, 1) get rid of
the carb heat (still need alternate air in case the inlet gets plugged)and 2)
better mixture distribution. After having a lengthly conversation with Van himself
I reconsidered the fuel injection for a time. Van was concerned that I
might be wanting fuel injection for the wrong reasons but concurred that my philosophy
was correct after hearing my explanation. He did stress however that
since Lycoming engines have their carburetors attached to the bottom of the sump
they are warmed by the oil and ALMOST never experience carburetor icing (Continental
engines are a different story, don't ask how I know). My discussions
with other Lycoming owners confirmed that carb ice was seldom, if ever, a problem
(0-320/0-360, I don't know about the 540/720 series). That left only ONE
reason to buy the fuel injection and at the time I was a bit less financially
capable and wanted some of those fancy new goodies in my instrument panel more
than I wanted FI so I really thought about just getting a carb (with the heat
box of course). Later I would come into some additional cash and the Mattituck
engine was quite reasonable (Penn Yan also has very good prices) so I went for
the whole ball-of-wax and couldn't be happier. If Mattituck support is a good
as they've been with my requests I'll be a very happy camper indeed, along
with many other folks!!
I think that the (Aerosance)FADEC has been around long enough and tested enough
that it's a solid unit (Van's did a bunch of testing and the units they sell
are tweaked to work best with 0-320/0-360 engines on the RVs). These FADECs are
also going on certified aircraft and to meet the requirements of our "friends"
at the FAA, they have a lot of redundancy built in. That means that they have
multiple systems built in (within the system) so that parts can fail in the
unit and it will continue to function. The FADEC actually consists of two "bricks"
that are bolted to the firewall, one provides the spark to the two cylinders
on one side of the engine (top and bottom plugs) and the other provides the
spark to the two cylinders on the other side of the engine (top and bottom
plugs). What bothers me about this is what would happen if one of the bricks failed
completely!!! That would leave the brick on the other side functioning but...
only two cylinders would have spark and on only one side of the engine!!
Needless to say, the engine would run quite rough and you'd be lucky to have
50% power. I'm not sure why they didn't have each brick fire all four cylinders
and split the bricks for the top and bottom plugs instead of left and right
side of the engine. I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything about this
FADEC, I'm sure the engineers considered this and did lots of analysis before
choosing this configuration so I likely am missing important information but
it does seem to me that this IS a potential undesirable failure mode. I'll
let them explain if they have someone who monitors this list. Anyway, enough babbling
for now, anyone with FADEC experience care to comment? Harmon, you on
the list?
Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6 N197DM
Wheel pants (non trivial)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net>
...But, while diesel has more energy per volume than gasoline, it has less
energy per weight. So for performance reasons it's not as good, but for
endurance reasons it's better.
I'd love to be able to burn diesel in my rotary engine.
Todd Bartrim
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
"The world will always have a place for those that bring hard
work and determination to the things they do."
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Horton
Subject: RE: RV-List: Diesel
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
>
>- Diesel is heavier than 100LL. According to Chevron/Texaco, their diesel
is
>6.76 lb/gal compared to 5.8 lb/gal for 100LL - ~15% heavier. That's 49lbs
of
>extra weight for full tanks.
But, diesel fuel has more energy per gallon too, so it's like you get
bigger gas tanks without having to make the mod yourself. And the
diesel engine burns less weight fuel to make the same amount of
power. So even if you put the same weight diesel fuel as you would
get with full tanks of gasoline, you can fly further with diesel
power than with gasoline.
The higher density is a plus, not a minus. You don't need to fill
the tanks all the way up if you don't want to.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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Subject: | Re: Putting Air In Tires... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
John,
Thanks for pointing me to the pictures, and to the NAPA HE-391 extension.
May be a dead horse to you, but I didn't know about the list a year ago.
Dan H
In a message dated 10/25/04 1:50:48 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jhstarn@verizon.net writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> Hate to beat a dead horse but I posted on "photo share" 7-27-2003 pictures
> of a wheel pants mod to gain access to put air in the tires. Old photos,
> finish product looks a LOT better but there are 4 photo's and a parts list.
> It's quick, cheap and it works. KABONG Do Not Archive HRII N561FS 200hr
> plus
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Putting Air In Tires...
>
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
>
>
>
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Subject: | Question on Folding Leading Edge of Elevator... |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
I had a heck of a time folding over the leading edges of the elevators (especially
where it is really narrow). After doing the best I could do,
there are places where the top and bottom flap are not completely flat against
each other where the pop rivet goes through them. I was
wondering if this is okay or not... has anyone else had this same problem? I have
spent hours just trying to get the bends right. The other
thing I noticed is that the flap on the outside doesnt lay completely flat against
the other sheet once it is all put together (I can put my
finger nail in between the two in some places). The Rudder seemed to be much easier...
Feedback is appreciated.
- Matt
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