---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/30/04: 27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:55 AM - Re: RV8 Sale (CBRxxDRV@aol.com) 2. 05:05 AM - Horizontal Filtered Airbox kit (Ron Schreck) 3. 05:30 AM - Re: Horizontal Filtered Airbox kit (Jim Cimino) 4. 05:30 AM - Re: Flightline Interiors question (Andrew Douglas) 5. 06:40 AM - Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) (Ken Simmons) 6. 06:52 AM - Re: RV8 Sale (LarryRobertHelming) 7. 07:07 AM - Re: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) (Jerry Springer) 8. 07:35 AM - Re: RV8 Sale (BRUCE GRAY) 9. 07:49 AM - Re: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) (Ed Anderson) 10. 07:49 AM - Re: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) (CBRxxDRV@aol.com) 11. 08:49 AM - Breaks question (bertrv6@highstream.net) 12. 10:14 AM - Re: Breaks question (Jeff Point) 13. 10:56 AM - [ Neal George ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 14. 10:57 AM - Sandia and Garmin (LarryRobertHelming) 15. 11:18 AM - firewall recess in a QB (thomas a. sargent) 16. 11:43 AM - Re: firewall recess in a QB 0.00 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO (Jim Jewell) 17. 02:23 PM - Help with Elevator and HS clearance... (Matt Johnson) 18. 02:37 PM - Re: Help with Elevator and HS clearance... (not processed: message from (Brian Denk) 19. 02:50 PM - Wing storage rack (James H Nelson) 20. 05:47 PM - Re: narco radios (CBRxxDRV@aol.com) 21. 06:52 PM - Clecoes (richard dudley) 22. 07:12 PM - (steve zicree) 23. 08:07 PM - Re: (Kyle Boatright) 24. 08:16 PM - Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed (Charlie Kuss) 25. 09:12 PM - Re: Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 26. 09:46 PM - Re: Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed (Gregory Young) 27. 10:04 PM - Re: Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed (Charlie Kuss) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:59 AM PST US From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: RV8 Sale --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com In a message dated 10/30/04 1:20:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, brucerv84us@hotmail.com writes: > I am curious to all that are unloading there RV8's? Is winter coming and > everyone is itching to build something else or what? It is funny to see > people let go of there aircraft and have nothing to fall back on for there > "rotate the world 3g get away". Like I said, just curious? > Having built before I can give you a perspective. Building is truly half the fun. Flying is great but the build ends up being something you enjoy. When the DAR signed off my first project he said he would see me again. He was right. When you find the time in your life to build and the project is done there is a hole that needs to be filled and watching TV is not the answer. So with all this money tied up in a plane some need to sell one to move onto the next. Some have waited for the RV-10, some decide they want a side by side, some feel they want to try a tandem. But the fact remains that this is a learning process and about the time you are done you are sure you could do better. I just sold my beloved champ to fund the RV-8........the QB is on the roadway truck. I will fly my RV-4 (someone else's build) until the 8 is done. If Vans has the Sport pilot (LSA) plane designed by then I sell the -4 and start again. When the LSA is done the -8 will be sold. Some have a plan........others needs change........Some have life changes. Some never build and miss the best part. 46 7AC (sold) RV-4 RV-8 Tail (QB on the truck) Sal Capra Lakeland, FL. My Home Page Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:31 AM PST US From: "Ron Schreck" Subject: RV-List: Horizontal Filtered Airbox kit --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" I'm building the baffles for my IO360 in the RV-8. I have the fiberglass intake and filter that mounts to the left baffle intake floor but I can't find any information or parts to construct a box for the filter. Does anyone have any references or pictures to help me out? Was there something supplied in the kit that I have misplaced? I can't even find a drawing! Help! Ron Schreck Baffled Sent via the WebMail system at mail.webkorner.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:20 AM PST US From: "Jim Cimino" Subject: Re: RV-List: Horizontal Filtered Airbox kit --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" The filter sits inside the end of the fiberglass intake. It is sandwiched between the fiberglass intake and the left baffle floor. You make two brackets to bolt it up to the baffle floor. Jim James Cimino RV-8 SN 80039 100+ Hours 570-842-4057 http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Schreck" Subject: RV-List: Horizontal Filtered Airbox kit > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" > > > I'm building the baffles for my IO360 in the RV-8. I have the fiberglass > intake and filter that mounts to the left baffle intake floor but I can't > find any information or parts to construct a box for the filter. Does > anyone have any references or pictures to help me out? Was there > something supplied in the kit that I have misplaced? I can't even find a > drawing! Help! > > Ron Schreck > Baffled > > > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.webkorner.com > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:47 AM PST US From: Andrew Douglas Subject: RV-List: Re: Flightline Interiors question --> RV-List message posted by: Andrew Douglas > All this is wrapped in a synthetic leather. It is very supple, durable, and > comfortable. You might want to ask about a long-term warranty, say 10 years or more. I can't say exactly what your material is, but I had a recent experience with synthetic leather that you might find interesting. I have a set of the Oregon Aero Soft Seal headset earcup cushions on my David Clarks, purchased about 12 years ago when they first came out. I stopped flying soon after, and the headset went into its bag and got put in the attic. During its time up there, it got exposed to extremes of temperature, just like your airplane will. These pads are covered in synthetic leather that is very supple and comfortable, and that I thought was very durable. A couple of weeks ago, inspired by SpaceShip One, I started seriously considering flying again. So I hunted up the two most important things: My logbook with my license inside, and my headset. To my dismay, I found the "leather" surface to be crumbly and flaking off, exposing the cloth backing. It was so bad that if I put the headset on, it would leave little flakes of the stuff all over the sides of my head. Initially I suspected exposure to sweat and body oils. However, after removing the cushions I found I could rub the "leather" off of its backing even on the tucked-away hidden inner surfaces that never came close to my skin. I'm guessing it's a straight age- and long-term oxidation-related issue. Can't be UV, because the headset was in its bag. I now have a pair of very comfortable, CLOTH covered ear seals. For all I know your material might be different and resistant to this sort of thing. PS: The mic cover (ordinary foam) also crumbled to dust. The rest of the headset appears to be fine, including the original Oregon Aero Soft Top wool cushion (in it's way-cool saddle backing/natural wool color). ----------------------------------------------------- Andrew Douglas Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:10 AM PST US From: "Ken Simmons" Subject: RV-List: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" I apologize if I've missed this, but does Van's have plans to produce an LSA qualified plane/kit? Is it just a rumor/hope or have they made such an announcement? Thanks. Ken DO NOT ARCHIVE ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com >--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com > >In a message dated 10/30/04 1:20:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >brucerv84us@hotmail.com writes: > > >> I am curious to all that are unloading there RV8's? Is winter coming and >> everyone is itching to build something else or what? It is funny to see >> people let go of there aircraft and have nothing to fall back on for there >> "rotate the world 3g get away". Like I said, just curious? >> > >Having built before I can give you a perspective. >Building is truly half the fun. Flying is great but the build ends >up being something you enjoy. When the DAR signed off my >first project he said he would see me again. He was right. When >you find the time in your life to build and the project is done there is >a hole that needs to be filled and watching TV is not the answer. >So with all this money tied up in a plane some need to sell one to >move onto the next. Some have waited for the RV-10, some decide >they want a side by side, some feel they want to try a tandem. >But the fact remains that this is a learning process and about the >time you are done you are sure you could do better. > >I just sold my beloved champ to fund the RV-8........the QB is on >the roadway truck. I will fly my RV-4 (someone else's build) until >the 8 is done. If Vans has the Sport pilot (LSA) plane designed by then I >sell the -4 and start again. When the LSA is done the -8 will be sold. > >Some have a plan........others needs change........Some have life changes. > > >Some never build and miss the best part. > > >46 7AC (sold) >RV-4 >RV-8 Tail (QB on the truck) > >Sal Capra >Lakeland, FL. > My Home Page > >Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:23 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV8 Sale --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" Speculation: Keep in mind I am building a 7 with the main feature being side by side seating experience. > I am curious to all that are unloading there RV8's? Is winter coming and > everyone is itching to build something else or what? It is funny to see > people let go of there aircraft and have nothing to fall back on for there > "rotate the world 3g get away". Like I said, just curious? No intent to start a 'cold' war here, but the 8s are front and back seating. With the side by side RVs, you at least have someone to hold your hand when you get cold while flying in winter weather. I think most of them -- that you call it are unloading -- are looking for comfort rather than higher performance and being cold alone up front. Maybe they have done their all alone thing and are moving on to nurse-guided wheel chairs and things as such. Some, but not all, of us do get a bit older every day. Maybe on the other hand, the higher cost of petro is part of it. Insurance is not going down either. Hanger fees, taxes, more deer need to be scared off the runways before landing and more and more large birds. Flying is not a undertaking for those without lots of spare $$. The economy is not perking. AND,,,,,, did anyone realize we have an election coming in a couple days. TV revenues will then be down. Then again -- Maybe they just want to stay home and watch TV without all the political commercials. do not archive Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker" ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRUCE GRAY" Subject: RV-List: RV8 Sale > --> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" > > I am curious to all that are unloading there RV8's? Is winter coming and > everyone is itching to build something else or what? It is funny to see > people let go of there aircraft and have nothing to fall back on for there > "rotate the world 3g get away". Like I said, just curious? > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:07 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer When I had breakfast with Van two weeks ago I asked him this very question. His answer was that they were waiting to see what the final qualifications were going to be and what kind of demand there was going to be. I am sure like all of the rest of his designs that if there is a need he will fill it. :-) Jerry Ken Simmons wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" > >I apologize if I've missed this, but does Van's have plans to produce an LSA qualified plane/kit? Is it just a rumor/hope or have they made such an announcement? > >Thanks. >Ken > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:54:53 EDT > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com >> >>In a message dated 10/30/04 1:20:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>brucerv84us@hotmail.com writes: >> >> >> >> >>>I am curious to all that are unloading there RV8's? Is winter coming and >>>everyone is itching to build something else or what? It is funny to see >>>people let go of there aircraft and have nothing to fall back on for there >>>"rotate the world 3g get away". Like I said, just curious? >>> >>> >>> >>Having built before I can give you a perspective. >>Building is truly half the fun. Flying is great but the build ends >>up being something you enjoy. When the DAR signed off my >>first project he said he would see me again. He was right. When >>you find the time in your life to build and the project is done there is >>a hole that needs to be filled and watching TV is not the answer. >>So with all this money tied up in a plane some need to sell one to >>move onto the next. Some have waited for the RV-10, some decide >>they want a side by side, some feel they want to try a tandem. >>But the fact remains that this is a learning process and about the >>time you are done you are sure you could do better. >> >>I just sold my beloved champ to fund the RV-8........the QB is on >>the roadway truck. I will fly my RV-4 (someone else's build) until >>the 8 is done. If Vans has the Sport pilot (LSA) plane designed by then I >>sell the -4 and start again. When the LSA is done the -8 will be sold. >> >>Some have a plan........others needs change........Some have life changes. >> >> >>Some never build and miss the best part. >> >> >>46 7AC (sold) >>RV-4 >>RV-8 Tail (QB on the truck) >> >>Sal Capra >>Lakeland, FL. >>My Home Page >> >>Do not archive >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:43 AM PST US From: "BRUCE GRAY" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV8 Sale --> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" Like I said, "I was curious". I am about done with the wings of my 8 right now. I can relate because I already have the plans to a RV3 and will probably use my RV8 as a money vehicle for the RV7 I would also like to build. I too am in the build bug mode. It was just odd that all these 8's started showing up on the market. Thank you for your insight to my question. Bruce Gray RV8 Wing's #81745 >From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: RV8 Sale >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:54:53 EDT > >--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com > >In a message dated 10/30/04 1:20:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >brucerv84us@hotmail.com writes: > > > > I am curious to all that are unloading there RV8's? Is winter coming and > > everyone is itching to build something else or what? It is funny to see > > people let go of there aircraft and have nothing to fall back on for >there > > "rotate the world 3g get away". Like I said, just curious? > > > >Having built before I can give you a perspective. >Building is truly half the fun. Flying is great but the build ends >up being something you enjoy. When the DAR signed off my >first project he said he would see me again. He was right. When >you find the time in your life to build and the project is done there is >a hole that needs to be filled and watching TV is not the answer. >So with all this money tied up in a plane some need to sell one to >move onto the next. Some have waited for the RV-10, some decide >they want a side by side, some feel they want to try a tandem. >But the fact remains that this is a learning process and about the >time you are done you are sure you could do better. > >I just sold my beloved champ to fund the RV-8........the QB is on >the roadway truck. I will fly my RV-4 (someone else's build) until >the 8 is done. If Vans has the Sport pilot (LSA) plane designed by then I >sell the -4 and start again. When the LSA is done the -8 will be sold. > >Some have a plan........others needs change........Some have life changes. > > >Some never build and miss the best part. > > >46 7AC (sold) >RV-4 >RV-8 Tail (QB on the truck) > >Sal Capra >Lakeland, FL. > My Home Page > >Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:22 AM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Springer" Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) > --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer > > When I had breakfast with Van two weeks ago I asked him this very > question. His answer was that they were waiting to see > what the final qualifications were going to be and what kind of demand > there was going to be. I am sure like all of the rest of his > designs that if there is a need he will fill it. :-) > > Jerry > > Its interesting to note that Van has resisted (in the early stages) several models in his line-up. He originally was against a side-by-side as he couldn't imagine why people would want it compared to a tandem - well, he has sold more RV-6s than any other model. Same for the RV-10 - resisted a 4 seater for years. He reportedly was noted as stating that he didn't think there would be much market for the LSA - because if there were that many people who could not pass a Class III and wanted to fly they would be flying motorized gliders, etc. Van is well noted for being conservative and its hard to argue with his success in bring out models when the interest is high. I predict we will within the next year see/hear/rumors of Van's team designing the LSA - in fact, I would bet money that some of his design staff are already doodling on napkins (if not on the CAD) the LSA preliminary design. I can't wait Ed Anderson ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:22 AM PST US From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's LSA? (was: RV8 Sale) --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com In a message dated 10/30/04 9:41:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ken@truckstop.com writes: > I apologize if I've missed this, but does Van's have plans to produce an > LSA qualified plane/kit? Is it just a rumor/hope or have they made such an > announcement? > Nothing will be done in this area until the RV-10 is in full production and that is complete.....It will be a clean piece of paper and is a couple years away if at all. This was per Vans. They had said At Sun-N-Fun they were waiting to see what the final qualifications were as another poster (Jerry) just said but that did happen at Osh Kosh.......? I really don't think it's a priority for them right now. I didn't mean to start a rumor. This is a question they are asked more than you may think. I feel the demand would surprise Vans. For now I still have a medical. do not archive Sal Capra Lakeland, FL My Home Page http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:11 AM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: RV-List: Breaks question --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Hi: I have a leak on the line that go to the breaks, passenger side. I am ready to install new line. The tubin I have is rigid one, "parflex 1/4 O.D. x.62 wall 500 w.p. Now the problem is, Ineed to buy new inserts. the brass ones, that go to the brass connections, at the master cylinders, those I have already from local Ace hardware store.... The plastic one, these, go at the end, of tubing going to the reservoir.. The problem, I cannot find these inserts; the ones at Spruce, are short, with a little hat like, at one end...the old ones, were very similar to the brass ones, that is they are long, and the end is just a small circular rim.. Where can I get these... I do not want to buy them from Van's... personal reasons". I have the ones from, Spruce, they are short,, but for the life of me, I canot insert these little rascals... Yes I have tubing in boiling water for about 5 minutes, no luck... That is it...is there any suggestions from the experts...I am stuck with this now... Thanks for the suggestions or advice or alternative methods... Bert rv6a Do Not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:57 AM PST US From: Jeff Point Subject: Re: RV-List: Breaks question --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point I'd recommend you scrap the nylon tube/ reservoir setup entirely and go with the indivdual reservoirs which mount on the master cylinder. Spruce sells them for about 20 bucks, and it gets rid of all the leaks. Here's where I got the idea. His is for an -8 but the same thing can be done to a 6. http://www.rv-8.com/IdeasProducts.htm#PRODUCT:%20Aircraft%20Spruce%20A-600%20Brake%20Reservoirs Jeff Point RV-6 Milwaukee WI > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:56:45 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: [ Neal George ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Neal George Subject: Dimpling http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL.10.30.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:54 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: RV-List: Sandia and Garmin --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" I need help on an avionic problem. I have a Sandia SAE5-35 encoder and Garmin 327 and 430. I have something wired wrong because the 430 is telling me it is not receiving altitude information and the 327 is not displaying an altitude. I have a question in to Sandia sales/support, but thought I would take a shot at seeing if anyone has been down this road before. The way I wired it is to feed the serial altitude data from Sandia in the RS232 IN 1 channel of the 327. I configure that channel on the 327 as Icarus. The RS232 IN 1 data is sent to the 430 using the 327's RS232 OUT 1 (configured as Icarus) connecting to the 430 by the GPS RS232 IN 1 channel. I configured this as Icarus. Feel free to contact me directly if anyone has any ideas as I doubt if many have an interest in this particular combination. Thanks. Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker" ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:18:17 AM PST US From: "thomas a. sargent" Subject: RV-List: firewall recess in a QB 0.00 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO --> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" I am about to install the firewall recess in my 6A. Since this is a QB, the firewall area is already fully assembled. Does any one have any suggestions about how to cut the firewall sheet cleanly after it is rivetted to the airplane? -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:43:07 AM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: firewall recess in a QB 0.00 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Hi Tom, If you have or can beg, borrow or buy a Dremel tool (hobby sized hi speed grinder) with a package of their "cut off wheel no. 409" you should get the job done quite well. Drill 3/32 holes at each corners from the cockpit side. Then use the holes on the outside to tape off the cut lines. Use the Dremel to cut the hole and finish the edges with a fine grit Dremel sanding drum or hand fie file as needed. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas a. sargent" Subject: RV-List: firewall recess in a QB 0.00 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO > --> RV-List message posted by: "thomas a. sargent" > > I am about to install the firewall recess in my 6A. Since this is a QB, > the firewall area is already fully assembled. Does any one have any > suggestions about how to cut the firewall sheet cleanly after it is > rivetted to the airplane? > > > -- > Tom Sargent, RV-6A > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:34 PM PST US From: "Matt Johnson" Subject: RV-List: Help with Elevator and HS clearance... (not processed: message from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" At the Van's recommended elevator clearance, my elevator is 1/16 away (maybe closer in some spots) to the HS skin. I found very little on this in the archives and was wondering if I did something wrong? With the -7 it seems hard to do something wrong since the skin is pre- drilled. I am afraid once I put paint on it it will rub. I used the vixen file to open the gap more (it was actually hitting before) and now there is 1/16" gap. Why hasnt anyone else experienced this? what is the gap that should be between the elevator and the HS skin when at full deflection? By the way, I have the hinge bolts at the recommended max. of 7/8". - Matt Johnson www.rv7a.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:37:44 PM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: RE: RV-List: Help with Elevator and HS clearance... (not processed: message from --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" > >At the Van's recommended elevator clearance, my elevator is 1/16 away >(maybe closer in some spots) to the HS skin. I found very little on >this in the archives and was wondering if I did something wrong? With the >-7 it seems hard to do something wrong since the skin is pre- >drilled. I am afraid once I put paint on it it will rub. I used the vixen >file to open the gap more (it was actually hitting before) and now there >is 1/16" gap. Why hasnt anyone else experienced this? what is the gap that >should be between the elevator and the HS skin when at full >deflection? By the way, I have the hinge bolts at the recommended max. of >7/8". > >- Matt Johnson >www.rv7a.com Try "massaging" the curled leading edges inward towards the elevator spars. You might have the profile of the elevator leading edges too "pointy"...sticking forward too far. I'm having the same issue on my RV10. Bearings are out as far as max allowed. Had to squish the radius down a lot to get clearance. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:46 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Wing storage rack From: James H Nelson --> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson Would anyone please give me the depth of the spar on the "9". I am getting ready to pick up my QB kit wings and I am building the rack to hold them. Has any one found the best spacing for the wings on the rack so you can finish them (QB). The plans call for 24" between the leading edge and the top. Is this a good dimension? Jim Nelson N599RV (reserved) ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:43 PM PST US From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: narco radios --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com Have you sold the narcos? Sal Capra Lakeland, FL My Home Page http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:21 PM PST US From: richard dudley Subject: RV-List: Clecoes --> RV-List message posted by: richard dudley Listers, You never can have too many clecoes. I've reached a point where I will keep only a few. I have 100 1/8" clecoes that I will sell for $25 and 50 3/32" for $12.50. Or the whole schmere for $35. Please contact me off list. Richard Dudley ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:27 PM PST US From: "steve zicree" Subject: RV-List: 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header --> RV-List message posted by: "steve zicree" Folks, If I need to modify the wheel pants, do I need to use the same type of resin as they are made of? If so, can anyone tell me how to determine whether mine are epoxy or polyester? Thanks. Steve Zicree RV4 on its wheels! ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:35 PM PST US From: "Kyle Boatright" Subject: Re: RV-List: --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" You can use epoxy to repair or modify parts that were built with epoxy or polyester resin. You can't use polyester resin to repair epoxy parts, although it is fine on polyester parts. Most manufacturers use polyester because it is less expensive and cures faster. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve zicree" Subject: RV-List: > --> RV-List message posted by: "steve zicree" > > Folks, > > If I need to modify the wheel pants, do I need to use the same type of > resin as they are made of? If so, can anyone tell me how to determine > whether mine are epoxy or polyester? Thanks. > > Steve Zicree > RV4 on its wheels! > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:34 PM PST US From: Charlie Kuss Subject: RV-List: Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss Listers, Can anyone tell me the part numbers for the "tuned" induction oil sump & intake tubes for the various angle valve IO-360s? I know that the C series has a horizontally mounted servo, but it exits the rear. I "think" the IO-360-A1A is a vertical (updraft) version. Are there any models (besides the new IO-360-M1B) which have a forward, horizontal induction point? Charlie Kuss ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:31 PM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Charlie, I don't have the part numbers, but maybe I can help a little. The IO-360-A1A has the front facing servo, not updraft. Van's assembly manual chapter on engines spells this out, and it is also in the engine data sheet posted on Dan Checkoway's website. My engine was originally a -C1E6 which had the rear facing sump. It had unmachined bosses on the front. I had the sump machined to install the servo on the front, only to find that the rear hit the (RV-7A) nose gear part of the engine mount. I was able to find a -A1A core and used the induction system from it. The induction tubes set about 2 inches farther aft on the -C1E6 than on the -A1A sump. I believe it will clear the engine mount on a tail dragger. If it will work for you, and you want it, it could probably be made available to you. Dan Hopper RV-7A N766DH (Flying 62 hours) In a message dated 10/30/04 10:17:08 PM US Eastern Standard Time, chaztuna@adelphia.net writes: > > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss > > Listers, > Can anyone tell me the part numbers for the "tuned" induction oil sump & > intake tubes for the various angle valve IO-360s? I know that the C series > has a horizontally mounted servo, but it exits the rear. I "think" the > IO-360-A1A is a vertical (updraft) version. Are there any models (besides > the new IO-360-M1B) which have a forward, horizontal induction point? > Charlie Kuss > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:40 PM PST US From: "Gregory Young" Subject: RE: RV-List: Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed --> RV-List message posted by: "Gregory Young" Bad news. The "C" sump won't work on the taildragger either without modifying the mount, at least on a parallel valve IO-360. It's also magnesium and costs big $$$ to add a boss for inverted oil. I had one on my -6 and modified the mount but won't do it again. I plan to change to the "A1A" sump on the Phoenix. That makes it essentially an IO-360-M1B. Regards, Greg Young - Houston (DWH) RV-6 N6GY - project Phoenix Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A > > --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > > Charlie, > > I don't have the part numbers, but maybe I can help a little. > > The IO-360-A1A has the front facing servo, not updraft. > Van's assembly manual chapter on engines spells this out, and > it is also in the engine data sheet posted on Dan Checkoway's website. > > My engine was originally a -C1E6 which had the rear facing > sump. It had unmachined bosses on the front. I had the sump > machined to install the servo on the front, only to find that > the rear hit the (RV-7A) nose gear part of the engine mount. > I was able to find a -A1A core and used the induction system > from it. The induction tubes set about 2 inches farther aft > on the -C1E6 than on the -A1A sump. I believe it will clear > the engine mount on a tail dragger. If it will work for you, > and you want it, it could probably be made available to you. > > Dan Hopper > RV-7A > N766DH (Flying 62 hours) > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:19 PM PST US From: Charlie Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: Angle valve IO-360 oil sump part # needed --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss Dan, I seem to remember that another RV-8A builder ran into the same problem with a converted C series sump. I just checked my photo library. Sure enough, the C series sump has the intake plenum located directly under the accessory cover. I have 3 photos of this problem. This will clear the tail dragger motor mounts, but not the tricycle motor mounts. Thanks for the info. Charlie >--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > >Charlie, > >I don't have the part numbers, but maybe I can help a little. > >The IO-360-A1A has the front facing servo, not updraft. Van's assembly >manual chapter on engines spells this out, and it is also in the engine >data sheet >posted on Dan Checkoway's website. > >My engine was originally a -C1E6 which had the rear facing sump. It had >unmachined bosses on the front. I had the sump machined to install the >servo on >the front, only to find that the rear hit the (RV-7A) nose gear part of the >engine mount. I was able to find a -A1A core and used the induction >system from >it. The induction tubes set about 2 inches farther aft on the -C1E6 than on >the -A1A sump. I believe it will clear the engine mount on a tail >dragger. If >it will work for you, and you want it, it could probably be made available to >you. > >Dan Hopper >RV-7A >N766DH (Flying 62 hours) > > >In a message dated 10/30/04 10:17:08 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >chaztuna@adelphia.net writes: > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss > > > > Listers, > > Can anyone tell me the part numbers for the "tuned" induction oil sump & > > intake tubes for the various angle valve IO-360s? I know that the C series > > has a horizontally mounted servo, but it exits the rear. I "think" the > > IO-360-A1A is a vertical (updraft) version. Are there any models (besides > > the new IO-360-M1B) which have a forward, horizontal induction point? > > Charlie Kuss > > > > > >