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1. 04:34 AM - Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) (cgalley)
2. 05:51 AM - Re: Fuel senders to float or not to float (RV_8 Pilot)
3. 06:02 AM - some more ethanol data (Mlfred@aol.com)
4. 06:43 AM - RV rear seat back (Frazier, Vincent A)
5. 06:48 AM - Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program (JT Helms)
6. 06:50 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 43 Msgs - 11/02/04 (Frazier, Vincent A)
7. 06:56 AM - Re: leaving a floater (SportAV8R@aol.com)
8. 07:43 AM - Re: MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core (923te)
9. 07:43 AM - Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program (Smcm75@aol.com)
10. 08:10 AM - Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program (JT Helms)
11. 08:21 AM - Re: MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core (923te)
12. 08:27 AM - Re: Radio Amplifier? (Bob 1)
13. 08:33 AM - NationAir Dropping Phoenix Underwriters (John)
14. 08:39 AM - Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program (Bob J)
15. 08:46 AM - Stupid Question... (Matt Johnson)
16. 08:51 AM - Re: NationAir Dropping Phoenix Underwriters (JT Helms)
17. 08:52 AM - Re: MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core (Stein Bruch)
18. 09:03 AM - Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program (JT Helms)
19. 09:06 AM - Re: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9) (McFarland, Randy)
20. 09:37 AM - Hangar Insurance (Ross Mickey)
21. 09:51 AM - Re: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9) (Jim Jewell)
22. 09:54 AM - Re: Hangar Insurance (JT Helms)
23. 10:00 AM - Re: Stupid Question... (not processed: message from valid local sender) (Allen Fulmer)
24. 11:03 AM - Firesleeve (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
25. 11:35 AM - Re: Fuel senders to float or not to float (Chris W)
26. 11:36 AM - Re: Stupid Question... (Charlie Kuss)
27. 02:01 PM - Re: Radio Amplifier? (SportAV8R@aol.com)
28. 02:33 PM - Re: NationAir's VanGuard Quotes (Bob)
29. 02:38 PM - Re: MA-4-5 Carburetor needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core (John Furey)
30. 03:59 PM - Re: Leather cleaning (wuz the old in&out question) (John Danielson)
31. 04:41 PM - Re: Stupid Question... (not processed: message from valid local send... (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
32. 05:00 PM - Sensenich FP Prop ()
33. 05:11 PM - Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) (Jim Jewell)
34. 05:27 PM - Re: Leather cleaning (wuz the old in&out question) (David Burton)
35. 06:04 PM - Re: Sensenich FP Prop (Brian Denk)
36. 08:33 PM - Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) (Vanremog@aol.com)
37. 09:11 PM - Van's seats (Darwin Barrie)
38. 09:37 PM - Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) (Scott VanArtsdalen)
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
As I remember it, you have to burn more (higher fuel flow) to get the higher
power output with alcohol.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris W" <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...)
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W
<1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
>
> Scott Bilinski wrote:
>
> >Yes it has lower BTU's but also puts out about 10% more power at
> >the same power settings.
> >
> >
> I'm confused. How can it have less BTU's and still put out more power?
> BTU is an energy unit and Power is Energy over time. So if ethanol has
> fewer BTU's per gallon, how could you possibly get 10% more power at the
> same GPH flow?
>
> This is probably a bad estimate, and probably changes a lot with scale.
> In the model airplane world if you have a big bird you want to convert
> from a nitro-methane engine to a gas engine, the general rule of thumb
> is you only need half as much fuel by volume.
>
> Now diesel seems the way to go, more BTU's per lbs and more lbs per
> gallon... it's like getting long range tanks for free. Of course there
> is the whole needing a new engine part. I just hope by the time I get
> building Deltahawk or some other manufacture will have a 180+ hp diesel
> with all the bugs worked out.
>
> Chris W
> Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
> http://thewishzone.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders to float or not to float |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Are Marines endangered with Gulf of Mexico, Venesuellan, Alaskan, Russian,
North Sea... crude?
If we want true energy independence, then why did this country kill the
nuclear power industry? Conflicting interests (e.g., corn lobby, coal
lobby...), nearsightedeness, ignorance IMVHO.
Leave the petroelum products for aircraft, heavy vehicles and power the cars
with (nuclear) electric.
another 2 cents
do not archive
Bryan
>After the 1st batch, you no longer need the fossil fuel at all.
>
>And no Marines will be endangered to produce ethanol; surely that's
>worth something...
>
>Charlie
>
>
>Dean wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
> >
> >RV Listers
> >
> >As a farmer in an early life, and a retired Aeronautical Engineer now who
> >helps a nephew in corn and soybean planting and harvest, I would like to
> >point out a gross error in the "science.howstuffworks" extract. The
> >quantity of fossil fuel required to plant, grow, and harvest an acre of
>corn
> >is exaggerated by at least a factor of ten. The real world number is 10
>to
> >12 gallons per acre total. Sort of makes a person wonder about the
>validity
> >of the rest of the data.
> >
> >Dean Van Winkle
> >RV-9A Fuselage/Finish
> >
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| Subject: | some more ethanol data |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mlfred@aol.com
In a message dated 11/3/2004 2:02:49 AM Central Standard Time,
rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Scott Bilinski wrote:
>Yes it has lower BTU's but also puts out about 10% more power at
>the same power settings.
>
>
I'm confused. How can it have less BTU's and still put out more power?
BTU is an energy unit and Power is Energy over time. So if ethanol has
fewer BTU's per gallon, how could you possibly get 10% more power at the
same GPH flow?
Fellas!!
Read the statement again: Scott said power setting -- not fuel flow! As
ethanol is more viscous (sort of like oil vs gasoline), it requires a larger jet
to
get the same flow. It also has less BTU per lb, so flow has to be higher yet.
So, flow (GPH) is higher at the same power setting -- up to 15%, unless the
engine is modified to use the higher octane rating.
Since ethanol is so resistant to knock, you can run higher compression ratios
(12:1 or so) to regain most of the lost efficiency. I'm also told timing
should be pulled back to 15deg BTDC or so, as the stuff burns so fast. This keeps
peak cyl pressure at the correct rod/crank angle....
I have run up to a 40% blend of ethanol/100LL in my ship without re-jetting,
but it was warm outside, so the flow didn't have to go up that much; the std
jets and full rich mixture worked up to about that blend ratio. And, did that
thing run or what! I could se much higher IAS easily, but the flow rate was
also higher -- there ain't no free lunch.
I did notice that speed didn't change when changing from one tank (blended)
to the other (straight 100LL) inflight, if flow was kept the same. But remember
that I was only running up to a 40% blend -- not 85% as would be the case
with AGE85. CHT readings dropped dramatically at all power settings.
This stuff works, or at least it did in my application methods, and didn't
cause any problems for me in using 150 gal in various blending ratios. Unless
you mind the smell -- it's like you have a big open bottle of whisky in the
hangar somehwere..
As for infrastructure problems, 100LL is delivered by truck anyway -- doesn't
go thru pipelines due to the lead content -- there wouldn't be any changes
there, except that ethanol CAN go thru the pipelines. But, we would all have to
rejet...
And it may be that if you let your infernal combustion machine set for an
extended period, you may find the carb has some deposits in it -- the ethanol
also has some vegetable oil mixed in, which remains when the ethanol evaporates.
Ethanol is not a panacea, I'd suggest. But, if we're going to have one fuel
for both the 6.3:1 A65 continentals and the turbo'ed GTSIO520s, it's not gonna
be 92UL. Could be a blend of 92UL & ethanol, if the usual auto gas additives
are controlled -- a couple of 'em make ethanol gel, which can clog fuel filters
& jets etc. This would not be good!
Carry on!
Mark
Team Rocket LP
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| Subject: | RV rear seat back |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
************Time: 04:20:56 AM PST US
Subject: RV-List: Help with the RV-8 seat back
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
I am looking for a good set of photos of the seat back, rear seat, for
an 8. plans and parts have confused me to the brink of migraine.
Please help. I cant figure out what need to be removed from the side
support rails at the top where they meet the fiberglass, how the
fiberglass attaches to the seatback at that undetermined angle, which
part of the seat other than the fiberglass flange touches the fuse. Etc.
Thanks for your help. Michael Stewart ******************
Michael,
I can't say what you should do, but I can say what I did on the RV-4 and
the HRII seats I built.... I threw the fiberglas in the trash and made
the entire seatback from aluminum. It wasn't that hard and I was quite
pleased with it. YMMV. Should work just fine for the RV-8 also.
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/2003-04-07/rear%20seat%20b
ack.jpg all metal rear seat
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/2003-04-07/rear%20seat%20b
ack%20aft%20side.jpg all metal rear seat
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/fuselage_construction.htm
scroll about halfway down to see the butt pan for the rear seat.... VERY
COMFORTABLE and well worth the effort.
Lots of other applicable pics on this page too.
Vince Frazier
F-1H Rocket, N540VF
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
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| Subject: | Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
VanGuard Insurance Program
This past Oshkosh marked the fifth anniversary of NationAir's VanGuard Insurance
Program. There are now over 1200 aircraft insured in the program, which makes
this program one of the largest and most successful single aircraft insurance
programs in our industry. NationAir is proud to receive the exclusive endorsement
of Van's Aircraft, who fully supports the VanGuard Program.
NationAir created the VanGuard Program with Van's help to aid their customers.
We are dedicated to continuing to provide the same level of service we always
have to our clients and the very best rates available in the marketplace for RV
owners.
We wanted to let all RV owners know about an upcoming change in how the program
is administered. Up to this point, with the exception of some liability only
policies, a single insurer, Phoenix Aviation Managers, has issued all of the insurance
policies written through the program. Due to changes in the marketplace,
NationAir has decided that it is in the best interests of our VanGaurd clients
to open up this program to all aviation insurers. Unlike some brokers, NationAir
has access to all the insurance companies. This change will give our clients
the broadest possible insurance options and the very best coverages and
rates. These other insurers are excited at the prospect of becoming part of the
VanGuard Program as insurance providers.
As a result of these changes, those of you already insured in the program by Phoenix
will eventually receive a notice from them indicating their intent not to
renew your policy. Prior to your renewal, NationAir will be contacting all insurers
to obtain your program renewal terms as we have in the past. This is no
different than what we have done in the past. Even though we've been the only
brokers with access to Phoenix's rates for RV owners, we have regularly gone
to all the other markets to make sure we had the very best quotes available for
our customers.
NationAir is continually trying to advance the cause for RV owners with the insurance
companies. To advance the position for the VanGuard Program, we are currently
coordinating the first visit to Van's by American International Group (AIG.)
AIG is an insurance company, which currently writes coverage for a large
number of RVs. The better the insurance companies understand and feel about the
product they're insuring, the more enthusiastic the underwriters will be about
supporting owners of those aircraft. We are constantly expanding the acceptable
types of engines RV owners are most enthusiastic about today with AIG, Global
(EAA insurance program) and other companies. As an example, we recently
got AIG's approval for the ECI engine.
If you have any questions at all, or need our assistance, please call Aaron Wedge,
who now manages the program full time, or myself at 877 475 5860.
Sincerely,
John Helms
Branch Manager
NationAir Insurance Agencies, Inc.
Light Aircraft Office
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| Subject: | RE: RV-List Digest: 43 Msgs - 11/02/04 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>>I'm looking at my wings and debating between the Duckworks HID leading
>>edge landing light ($450 for one light from Van's) and the CreativAir
>>wingtip halogen landing light ($120 for a pair- one in each wingtip).
>>Any discussion of the advantages of one or the other would be helpful.
>>Also any factors favoring right wing vs left wing installation if I
>>choose a single light? I'm thinking that illuminating the driver's
>>side of the taxiway would be a good choice but I've seen several side
by
>>side RVs with the light in the right wing.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any info.
>>Jim McChesney
>>7A-QB wings and fuse
Jim,
This has been discussed before but here goes again... Bill VonDane,
IIRC, makes a nice kit if you can use the wingtip lights.
I did the same thing... I think Bill and I stole the idea from Terry
Jantzi... for about $10.
Yes, $10, and it works very nicely.
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/Construction%20Notes%20for
%20the%20tail%20and%20wings.htm Pictures and text here!
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TRICK OUT YOUR INSTALLATION.. get one of the solid
state wig-wag units and use it to flash your landing lights during the
day. MAN! It really makes your airplane stand out!
Vince
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| Subject: | Re: leaving a floater |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Has anyone ever had a float
type sender fail in an RV?
YES! My float developed a pinhole leak and sank ... :-(
New float cleared it right up. The new design is a closed cell foam body with
brass end cap. The old style was hollow brass halves soldered together.
-Bill Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core |
--> RV-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Anyone have available a carburator MA-4-5? Lycoming Part number LW-18788
Thanks,
Ned
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| Subject: | Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program |
--> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com
John:
What is the real reason for the split with Pheonix? Loss ratios?,
commissions? Brokers generally do not sever relationships with insurers on group
programs
unless the insurer wants out or there is a sudden and substantial increase in
rates/premiums or a decrease in broker fees or commission..
What is it John?
Scott Morrow
RV-6A N548SM
Retired aviation insurance broker with over 25 years with AON, Marsh, and as
a consultant
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| Subject: | Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
Phoenix is a fantastic company. I and everyone at NationAir thinks the
world of them. NationAir has not severed any ties with Phoenix. They had
some leadership changes recently. They are not the most automated insurance
company in the world. There are 1200+ policies in the program almost all of
which are with Phoenix. (a few with AIG, and very few with the EAA
Program.)
Phoenix's loss ratio's were high enough that they have not made any money
over the life of the program. With 1200 policies to service, it was a bit
much for them without it being a money maker for them. They elected to
raise their rates, and subsequently it was decided that they wanted to
non-renew those customers. This was Phoenix's first and only foray into the
homebuilt market. I think they took a great first stab at writing risks in
that market. If they're able to automate more, perhaps they'll be back.
There are other companies out there like AIG and Global Aerospace (the EAA
Insurance Program's insurer) that are more automated and able to easily
handle that many accounts with no problem.
JT
----- Original Message -----
From: <Smcm75@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program
> --> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com
>
> John:
>
> What is the real reason for the split with Pheonix? Loss ratios?,
> commissions? Brokers generally do not sever relationships with insurers on
group programs
> unless the insurer wants out or there is a sudden and substantial increase
in
> rates/premiums or a decrease in broker fees or commission..
>
> What is it John?
>
> Scott Morrow
> RV-6A N548SM
>
> Retired aviation insurance broker with over 25 years with AON, Marsh, and
as
> a consultant
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core |
--> RV-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
This a carb for the O540 engine. O360's amd O320's may have it as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core
> Anyone have available a carburator MA-4-5? Lycoming Part number LW-18788
>
> Thanks,
> Ned
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Amplifier? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a@comcast.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Garrett"
<rgarrett@objectsciences.com>
>
> Would a radio amplifier that could handle AM/SSB/FM (by design) also
amplify
> AM? Aviation radio is VHF AM. Could a ham radio amp be used to boost my
> signal? I realize that VHF is line-of-sight, so power is not normally a
> limiting factor. However, I often operate in areas with lots of
> interference. I can hear ATC, but they sometimes can't hear me, so I'm
> thinking a little more power might be a big help. Would there be any FCC
> issues with doing this? I am a licensed ham, and the power out would be
> considerably below what airline radios transmit.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Randy
> RV-6A
> 430 hours
=============================================
If your situation is really as you describe, it is truly unique.
Most radio xmitters either match or outperform the receiver portion.
Fer instance...
I use a 1 watt xmit and have no trouble talking 75 miles or more...
unless on the ground. <g>
Bob
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| Subject: | NationAir Dropping Phoenix Underwriters |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Do any of you that have insurance with AIG know if your liability policy
ALSO covers the hangar where your plane is stored? Phoenix's policy gave me
that coverage (necessary because of ground lease terms at my airport) as a
part of the overall liability coverage. I would appreciate some info. Thanks
John at Salida, CO
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| Subject: | Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
I am going thru the renewal process right now and to reinsure with AIG
as the underwriter; its costing me nearly $200 more a year for the
same coverage as I've had previously. My auto rates have similarly
rose this year, and I changed carriers but got a better deal. I can
deal with a nominal increase but the future is what worries me. If it
increases $200 a year for the next five years then that's another
story. Having only one low cost underwriter writing policies for RV's
is NOT GOOD. With Phoenix out of the picture a competitive insurance
marketplace for the RV's no longer exists.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:42:50 EST, smcm75@aol.com <smcm75@aol.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com
>
> John:
>
> What is the real reason for the split with Pheonix? Loss ratios?,
> commissions? Brokers generally do not sever relationships with insurers on group
programs
> unless the insurer wants out or there is a sudden and substantial increase in
> rates/premiums or a decrease in broker fees or commission..
>
> What is it John?
>
> Scott Morrow
> RV-6A N548SM
>
> Retired aviation insurance broker with over 25 years with AON, Marsh, and as
> a consultant
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Stupid Question... |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
I was going to dimple the skin on the wings for the fuel tanks and I cannot figure
out which dimple die to use... The bolts are AN5-8R8 but
the "complete RV builders kit" that I purchased does not have an AN5 dimple. Am
I missing something? are you supposed to match the
dimple die (AN5) to the bolt size (AN5) based on the AN number? did the kit just
leave out this obvious dimple die (there are a lot of these
bolts throughout the hole plane). Thanks for your help.
- Matt Johnson
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| Subject: | Re: NationAir Dropping Phoenix Underwriters |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
All companies include that (except London Aviation Underwriters which isn't
really a factor for RVs). It's called premises liability coverage.
JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Subject: RV-List: NationAir Dropping Phoenix Underwriters
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
>
> Do any of you that have insurance with AIG know if your liability policy
> ALSO covers the hangar where your plane is stored? Phoenix's policy gave
me
> that coverage (necessary because of ground lease terms at my airport) as a
> part of the overall liability coverage. I would appreciate some info.
Thanks
>
> John at Salida, CO
>
>
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| Subject: | MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
I need the same thing...so if anyone has two of them....
Thanks,
Stein
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 923te
Subject: Re: RV-List: MA-4-5 Carburator needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core
--> RV-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Anyone have available a carburator MA-4-5? Lycoming Part number LW-18788
Thanks,
Ned
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| Subject: | Re: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
We actually have seen AIG and the EAA's program competing with one another
on RVs. So, there is some competition.
The low rates Phoenix formerly offered for 5 years contributed to the loss
ratio being higher. That ratio is calculated by taking claims $'s paid out
or reserved for a loss by the amount of premium taken in (and earned...
meaning that portion of the policy premium that's been used.)
If the premiums taken in (and earned) are lower, then the ratio is higher.
Assuming the loss $'s are the same between two companies, if one is charging
higher premiums, then they're earning premium faster, and their loss ratio
would be lower.
At the heart of your post, yes, RVers are likely to experience higher
premiums than what has been available for the last 5 years. NationAir is
working very hard at keeping those two markets available and competitive as
well as adding others. Also, as I mentioned in our statement about our
program, we are apparently the only broker that is trying to advance the
cause for RV owners with the insurance companies. Broadening the scope of
engine types, getting the underwriters up to see Van are just two things
we're working on right now.
We'd really like to see even more insurance companies in the marketplace.
Competition is good for you (the customers), obviously. Encouraging
additional companies to quote homebuilts, or existing markets to lower their
rates is completely dependant on their view of the loss ratio. That is
completely dependant upon you all. The best sales job I can do on an
underwriter to convince them to write RVs isn't going to matter if the
losses are high (or would be in their mind.)
JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob J" <rocketbob@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Changes in NationAir's VanGuard Program
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>
> I am going thru the renewal process right now and to reinsure with AIG
> as the underwriter; its costing me nearly $200 more a year for the
> same coverage as I've had previously. My auto rates have similarly
> rose this year, and I changed carriers but got a better deal. I can
> deal with a nominal increase but the future is what worries me. If it
> increases $200 a year for the next five years then that's another
> story. Having only one low cost underwriter writing policies for RV's
> is NOT GOOD. With Phoenix out of the picture a competitive insurance
> marketplace for the RV's no longer exists.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying F1 under const.
>
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:42:50 EST, smcm75@aol.com <smcm75@aol.com> wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Smcm75@aol.com
> >
> > John:
> >
> > What is the real reason for the split with Pheonix? Loss ratios?,
> > commissions? Brokers generally do not sever relationships with insurers
on group programs
> > unless the insurer wants out or there is a sudden and substantial
increase in
> > rates/premiums or a decrease in broker fees or commission..
> >
> > What is it John?
> >
> > Scott Morrow
> > RV-6A N548SM
> >
> > Retired aviation insurance broker with over 25 years with AON, Marsh,
and as
> > a consultant
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
I'm not very good at searching the archives. Can someone tell me who sells
the handles for the roll bar, and the best spacing for easiest use?
Thank you
Randy
7A Aft canopy skirts
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Dowling [mailto:shempdowling@earthlink.net]
Subject: Re: RV-List: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
Its easy if you install a couple of handles on the rollover bar. I got some
computer main frame aluminum pull handles from someone on the list. Easy to
install and I will never have one without them.
Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
140 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: <dmedema@att.net>
Subject: RV-List: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9)
> --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
>
> I've been thinking about the seats for my RV-6A and have
> struggled with the issue of getting in and out of the plane without
> damaging the seats. It seems like the only way to get in and out
> includes standing on the seat. I've thought about trying to make
> the seat in two pieces, kind of a front and back part. The front
> would be easily removable so you could step on metal while
> getting in and then replace the front part after you're in the plane.
> This doesn't seem real practical to me though. I was discussing
> this with my wife last night and she mentioned "jump seats." Now
> I have a Ford Ranger pickup extended cab and it has two small
> seats that fold into the sides of the truck behind the main seat.
> This got me thinking about the possibility of having some kind of
> frame that would swing up for entry and exit and would fold down
> as you sat on it. I think I would try to make it hinged somehow,
> maybe like a theater seat, possibly with a spring to raise it when
> not loaded. When down, the loads would be on the airplane floor
> and not on the moving seat frame. I realize this will add some
> weight, the challenge would be to minimize it. It also has some
> issues with moving the seat back fore-and-aft, but I might just
> give up that feature and keep the seat backs in one position.
>
> So, how are you people, who have spent quite a bit of money on
> your nice seats, keeping them nice? Do you move them out of the
> way or just step on them? Any unique ideas out there for moving
> the seats out of the way?
>
> Thanks,
> Doug Medema
> RV-6A N276DM
>
> <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->
>
>
> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset -->
> I've been thinking about the seats for my RV-6A and have
> struggled with the issue of getting in and out of the plane without
> damaging the seats. It seems like the only way to get in and out
> includes standing on the seat. I've thought about trying to make
> the seat in two pieces, kind of a front and back part. The front
> would be easily removable so you could step on metal while
> getting in and then replace the front part after you're in the plane.
> This doesn't seem real practical to me though. I was discussing
> this with my wife last night and she mentioned "jump seats." Now
> I have a Ford Ranger pickup extended cab and it has two small
> seats that fold into the sides of the truck behind the main seat.
> This got me thinking about the possibility of having some kind of
> frame that wouldswing up for entry and exit and would fold down
> as you sat on it. I think I would try to make it hinged somehow,
> maybe like a theater seat, possibly with a spring to raise it when
> not loaded. When down, the loads would be on the airplane floor
> and not on the moving seat frame. I realize this will add some
> weight, the challenge would be to minimize it. It also has some
> issues with moving the seat back fore-and-aft, but I might just
> give up that feature and keep the seat backs in one position.
>
> So, how are you people, who have spent quite a bit of money on
> your nice seats, keeping them nice? Do you move them out of the
> way or just step on them? Any unique ideas out there for moving
> the seats out of the way?
>
> Thanks,
> Doug Medema
> RV-6A N276DM
>
> <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Hangar Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
John,
Does this cover the rebuilding of my hangar if it is destroyed?
Ross Mickey
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
All companies include that (except London Aviation Underwriters which
isn't
really a factor for RVs). It's called premises liability coverage.
JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Subject: RV-List: NationAir Dropping Phoenix Underwriters
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
>
> Do any of you that have insurance with AIG know if your liability
policy
> ALSO covers the hangar where your plane is stored? Phoenix's policy
gave
me
> that coverage (necessary because of ground lease terms at my airport)
as a
> part of the overall liability coverage. I would appreciate some info.
Thanks
>
> John at Salida, CO
>
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| Subject: | Re: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Randy,
Try http://www.reidtool.com/store/home.asp or mail@reidtool.com they send
annual catalog on request.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9)
> --> RV-List message posted by: "McFarland, Randy"
> <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
>
> I'm not very good at searching the archives. Can someone tell me who sells
> the handles for the roll bar, and the best spacing for easiest use?
> Thank you
> Randy
> 7A Aft canopy skirts
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Dowling [mailto:shempdowling@earthlink.net]
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9)
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>
> Its easy if you install a couple of handles on the rollover bar. I got
> some
>
> computer main frame aluminum pull handles from someone on the list. Easy
> to
>
> install and I will never have one without them.
>
> Jeff Dowling
> RV-6A, N915JD
> 140 hours
> Chicago/Louisville
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dmedema@att.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Entering and exiting an RV-6 (or 7 or 9)
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: dmedema@att.net
>>
>> I've been thinking about the seats for my RV-6A and have
>> struggled with the issue of getting in and out of the plane without
>> damaging the seats. It seems like the only way to get in and out
>> includes standing on the seat. I've thought about trying to make
>> the seat in two pieces, kind of a front and back part. The front
>> would be easily removable so you could step on metal while
>> getting in and then replace the front part after you're in the plane.
>> This doesn't seem real practical to me though. I was discussing
>> this with my wife last night and she mentioned "jump seats." Now
>> I have a Ford Ranger pickup extended cab and it has two small
>> seats that fold into the sides of the truck behind the main seat.
>> This got me thinking about the possibility of having some kind of
>> frame that would swing up for entry and exit and would fold down
>> as you sat on it. I think I would try to make it hinged somehow,
>> maybe like a theater seat, possibly with a spring to raise it when
>> not loaded. When down, the loads would be on the airplane floor
>> and not on the moving seat frame. I realize this will add some
>> weight, the challenge would be to minimize it. It also has some
>> issues with moving the seat back fore-and-aft, but I might just
>> give up that feature and keep the seat backs in one position.
>>
>> So, how are you people, who have spent quite a bit of money on
>> your nice seats, keeping them nice? Do you move them out of the
>> way or just step on them? Any unique ideas out there for moving
>> the seats out of the way?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug Medema
>> RV-6A N276DM
>>
>> <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->
>>
>>
>> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset -->
>> I've been thinking about the seats for my RV-6A and have
>> struggled with the issue of getting in and out of the plane without
>> damaging the seats. It seems like the only way to get in and out
>> includes standing on the seat. I've thought about trying to make
>> the seat in two pieces, kind of a front and back part. The front
>> would be easily removable so you could step on metal while
>> getting in and then replace the front part after you're in the plane.
>> This doesn't seem real practical to me though. I was discussing
>> this with my wife last night and she mentioned "jump seats." Now
>> I have a Ford Ranger pickup extended cab and it has two small
>> seats that fold into the sides of the truck behind the main seat.
>> This got me thinking about the possibility of having some kind of
>> frame that wouldswing up for entry and exit and would fold down
>> as you sat on it. I think I would try to make it hinged somehow,
>> maybe like a theater seat, possibly with a spring to raise it when
>> not loaded. When down, the loads would be on the airplane floor
>> and not on the moving seat frame. I realize this will add some
>> weight, the challenge would be to minimize it. It also has some
>> issues with moving the seat back fore-and-aft, but I might just
>> give up that feature and keep the seat backs in one position.
>>
>> So, how are you people, who have spent quite a bit of money on
>> your nice seats, keeping them nice? Do you move them out of the
>> way or just step on them? Any unique ideas out there for moving
>> the seats out of the way?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug Medema
>> RV-6A N276DM
>>
>> <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
No. It is for liabilities that happen in or around the plane which the
aircraft's owner (and the owner of the hangar if that's a different person
and you've added them as additional insured on the policy) incurs.
The owner of the hangar would have to purchase a seperate policy to cover
physical damage to a hangar (i.e. wind, fire, etc).
Aircraft policies typically do have coverage for 'damage to non-owned
hangars' although some policies further exclude a hangar which you rent
(long term.... not as in overnight on a cross country.)
JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RV-List: Hangar Insurance
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
>
> John,
>
> Does this cover the rebuilding of my hangar if it is destroyed?
>
> Ross Mickey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> --> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
>
> All companies include that (except London Aviation Underwriters which
> isn't
> really a factor for RVs). It's called premises liability coverage.
>
> JT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: NationAir Dropping Phoenix Underwriters
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "John" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
> >
> > Do any of you that have insurance with AIG know if your liability
> policy
> > ALSO covers the hangar where your plane is stored? Phoenix's policy
> gave
> me
> > that coverage (necessary because of ground lease terms at my airport)
> as a
> > part of the overall liability coverage. I would appreciate some info.
> Thanks
> >
> > John at Salida, CO
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Stupid Question... (not processed: message from valid |
local sender)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Allen Fulmer" <afulmer@charter.net>
I think mine were marked by Avery as #6 and #8. Don't really know what
"size" they are. They are noticeably larger than the 3/32" and 1/8".
HTH
Allen Fulmer
RV7 Wings
N808AF reserved
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt Johnson
Subject: RV-List: Stupid Question... (not processed: message from valid
local sender)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
I was going to dimple the skin on the wings for the fuel tanks and I cannot
figure out which dimple die to use... The bolts are AN5-8R8 but
the "complete RV builders kit" that I purchased does not have an AN5 dimple.
Am I missing something? are you supposed to match the
dimple die (AN5) to the bolt size (AN5) based on the AN number? did the kit
just leave out this obvious dimple die (there are a lot of these
bolts throughout the hole plane). Thanks for your help.
- Matt Johnson
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
I believe it's a good idea to firesleeve for sure the stuff that's catching
the radiant heat from those red hot, 1400-1500 deg exhaust pipes. And all the
fuel lines, regardless. Other stuff like behind engine, not so sure. The SS
enshrouded oil lines for instance. If you have a fire, you're going to shut
the engine down, right?
Jerry Cochran
Van's catalogue suggests only certain fuel/oil lines should be firesleeved
in that
orange hose. But I'm pretty sure I've seen where builders have almost
firesleeved
just about everything from control cables to starter wires to small wire
bundles up there.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders to float or not to float |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
RV_8 Pilot wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>
>Are Marines endangered with Gulf of Mexico, Venesuellan, Alaskan, Russian,
>North Sea... crude?
>
>If we want true energy independence, then why did this country kill the
>nuclear power industry? Conflicting interests (e.g., corn lobby, coal
>lobby...), nearsightedeness, ignorance IMVHO.
>
>
>
>
I have to totally agree that we should be using nuclear energy to
generate electricity. However I differ with you some what after that.
I think we should then use that electricity to extract hydrogen from
water and run car's and most everything else with an engine on that.
Contrary to popular belief, hydrogen is not any more dangerous that
gasoline. Due to the weight of the tanks to hold compressed hydrogen,
it may not be a practical fuel for light aircraft, but due to the fact
that there is more energy per pound in hydrogen than any other fuel I
know of, somewhere between an RV and the space shuttle, there has to be
a break even point.
do not archive
Chris W
Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
http://thewishzone.com
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| Subject: | Stupid Question... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Allen
Those numbers refer to the machine screw size which the dimple is for.
The dimple corresponds to the flush head of either a #6 or #8 machine screw
and the center hole corresponds to the size of the screw's shank.
Charlie Kuss
PS Do yourself a favor. While Vans specifies that a #19 drill is correct
for #8 dimpled holes, the hole will tend to crack when dimpled due to the
severe upset of the metal. On scrap, drill and dimple using the #19 drill.
Now inspect the dimpled hole carefully with a jeweler's loop or a
magnifying glass. 3 out of 4 will have tiny cracks. Repeat this process
using a #17 drill bit. No cracks. I learned this trick from A&P, IA and RV4
builder Jody Edwards.
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Allen Fulmer" <afulmer@charter.net>
>
>I think mine were marked by Avery as #6 and #8. Don't really know what
>"size" they are. They are noticeably larger than the 3/32" and 1/8".
>HTH
>
>Allen Fulmer
>RV7 Wings
>N808AF reserved
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt Johnson
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Stupid Question... (not processed: message from valid
>local sender)
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
>
>I was going to dimple the skin on the wings for the fuel tanks and I cannot
>figure out which dimple die to use... The bolts are AN5-8R8 but
>the "complete RV builders kit" that I purchased does not have an AN5 dimple.
>Am I missing something? are you supposed to match the
>dimple die (AN5) to the bolt size (AN5) based on the AN number? did the kit
>just leave out this obvious dimple die (there are a lot of these
>bolts throughout the hole plane). Thanks for your help.
>
>- Matt Johnson
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Amplifier? |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Randy, you'll have to retune the input and output networks for the lower frequency
(assuming a 2 meter "brick") and also be certain you have a class-A or -AB
amp offering reasonable linearity (an FM/CW-only, class-C amp will not work here.)
Then there are the type-acceptance issues for use in non-amateur service where
your ham ticket doesn't mean jack to the Feds. On that note, I am surprised people
are getting away with running Icom-706's as avaition HF's for trans-Atlantic
ferry work and so on. Those radios are not type-accepted for use in the
aviation HF service, and probably lack the frequency stability for such certification
unless an add-on crystal oven is used... just an aside.
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: NationAir's VanGuard Quotes |
on opie.wvnet.edu
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
FYI,
I just renewed my insurance as of 1 Nov with VanGuard. Previous costs, 1st
year $1550, 2nd year $1360 (rate reduction due to 300+ hours and 200+
tailwheel), this year $1668 (I did increase the hull value by $9,000 to
$60K).
This was all with Phoenix. I did receive a quote from AIG for about $30
less. However, at this time I have declined to do business with AIG while
they are under investigation by NY Attorney General for insurance fraud.
I find JT Helms to be a good person to do business with.
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
Dynon D-10 is way too cool at night! Far Out!!
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| Subject: | MA-4-5 Carburetor needed.. New, Rebuilt or Core |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Ned, When I Needed help with a carb Bart Lablonde came to my rescue and was
great to work with. 250-376-2955
John Furey
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| Subject: | Leather cleaning (wuz the old in&out question) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
I tried them in my Durango. They clean very well, but leave the seats
very slippery. For this reason I quit using them. It took about 1 week
before I quit sliding around.
John Danielson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fiveonepw@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Leather cleaning (wuz the old in&out question)
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 11/02/2004 1:22:44 PM Central Standard Time,
rocketbob@gmail.com writes:
600 hours stepping on the DJ vinyl seats and mine still look
new. I clean the seats maybe twice a year with upholstery cleaner,
only takes a few minutes.
>>>>>>
Before I bug DJ or ruin her beautiful leather seats, has anyone tried
those
new Armor-all leather wipes?
Mark - do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Stupid Question... (not processed: message from valid local |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Matt,
Use the die that makes the right size dimple. Practice on some scrap.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying 62 hours)
In a message dated 11/3/04 11:48:41 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
matt@n559rv.com writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
>
> I was going to dimple the skin on the wings for the fuel tanks and I cannot
> figure out which dimple die to use... The bolts are AN5-8R8 but
> the "complete RV builders kit" that I purchased does not have an AN5 dimple.
> Am I missing something? are you supposed to match the
> dimple die (AN5) to the bolt size (AN5) based on the AN number? did the kit
> just leave out this obvious dimple die (there are a lot of these
> bolts throughout the hole plane). Thanks for your help.
>
> - Matt Johnson
>
>
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| Subject: | Sensenich FP Prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
All,
Based on the advice of Stein and others, I went ahead and ordered the 86 pitch
prop from Sensenich. Although Vans sells it only in 85 pitch (at least on the
catalog), you can apparently get it up to 88 or 89 pitch if you want.
I would be interested in hearing any performance data (climb or cruise) from people
with the 86 pitch prop and 0-360 combination. What I am told is that a combination
like this should exceed any CS performance in cruise (obviously not
climb).
Thanks,
Scott
www.scottsrv7a.com
Thanks for the advice on bending the hinge pins...it was very helpful.
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Re-alternative fuels,
Having read several rv-list alternate fuel threads over the years. I am left
with the impression that some number of individuals think that switching to
alternative fuels simply requires some means of supplying the fuel of choice
to the engine and then making a few simple external adjustments to ignition
timing, carburetor etc.
At the design stage, getting the best combination of performance,
reliability, utility and power from any individual internal combustion
engine design one of the first things to establish is the intended choice of
fuel.
Of course a careful examination of the intended application among many other
things is also required.
Various tolerances, Ignition timing, fuel flow rates, compression rates,
combustion chamber shape, camshaft design, (timing ,lift and duration etc),
bore and stroke, structural materials choices, lubricants, porting (both
exhaust and intake), and cooling requirements will all play a role in
acquiring the acceptable overall characteristics of the final design.
Needless to say cost restraints play a roll as well.
The list is actually longer than stated here but the general idea is at
least indicated.
One should not expect to be able to change fuels with an existing engine
design without re-examining at least some combination of the above basic
considerations.
Swapping fuels into an unchanged existing engine design will result in trade
offs that will not likely adequately satisfy all the expectations.
Designing or re-designing fuels to fit successful existing engine designs
without losses in performance, reliability, utility or power is also fraught
with its own pandora's box of complications
I am not an expert on this subject so if any errors are exist please advise,
I live to learn.
Me?... I'm holding out for the advent of motive power source designs that
utilize antimatter based fuels before considering substantial engine mods
and currently available alternative fuels etc.{[g-}!
Jim in Kelowna do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Leather cleaning (wuz the old in&out question) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
The only thing I have ever used is Hyde Food. It's what they recommended
for the Connolly leather in my Jaguars... Works great. A jar lasts
forever. I see that on this website it's called Hyde Care and that Connolly
is no longer in business. Start with mild soap and water if you have dirt
on the leather and finish with Hyde food. Some of my leather seats are over
30 years old and look and feel perfect.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Leather cleaning (wuz the old in&out question)
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
>
> I tried them in my Durango. They clean very well, but leave the seats
> very slippery. For this reason I quit using them. It took about 1 week
> before I quit sliding around.
> John Danielson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Fiveonepw@aol.com
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Leather cleaning (wuz the old in&out question)
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/02/2004 1:22:44 PM Central Standard Time,
> rocketbob@gmail.com writes:
> 600 hours stepping on the DJ vinyl seats and mine still look
> new. I clean the seats maybe twice a year with upholstery cleaner,
> only takes a few minutes.
> >>>>>>
> Before I bug DJ or ruin her beautiful leather seats, has anyone tried
> those
> new Armor-all leather wipes?
>
> Mark - do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Sensenich FP Prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>
>All,
>
>Based on the advice of Stein and others, I went ahead and ordered the 86
>pitch prop from Sensenich. Although Vans sells it only in 85 pitch (at
>least on the catalog), you can apparently get it up to 88 or 89 pitch if
>you want.
>
>I would be interested in hearing any performance data (climb or cruise)
>from people with the 86 pitch prop and 0-360 combination. What I am told
>is that a combination like this should exceed any CS performance in cruise
>(obviously not climb).
>
>Thanks,
>Scott
>www.scottsrv7a.com
FWIW, as a point of reference, my RV8/O-360/Sensenich 83" pitch tops out in
cruise at 200mph at 8,000' MSL/ 2700rpm. Static ground runup on a cool day
at about 5,000' field elevation is 2350 rpm. My plane hooks up to the air
pretty quick on takeoff roll so accelleration and climb is excellent. At
sea level, it's airborne RIGHTNOW. But, I'm left with a bunch of throttle
available at most normal cruise altitudes. I'd say the 85 or 86 would be
the cat's meow in all but very high and hot operational altitudes. I live a
mile high already in New Mexico so I chose the finer pitch to get the
airplane off the ground reliably when the tarmac is melting during the
summer.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 11/3/2004 5:13:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jjewell@telus.net writes:
Me?... I'm holding out for the advent of motive power source designs that
utilize antimatter based fuels before considering substantial engine mods
and currently available alternative fuels etc.{[g-}!
==========================================
I keep praying for the "faith based" fuels.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 725 hrs)
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<RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net>
I've got the Van's seats and I purchased my desired covering. Anybody know if one
of the existing companies that does seats will cover the Van's seats with my
stuff?
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Alternative Fuels (was Fuel Senders...) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott VanArtsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Maybe one will "evolve." Why don't you throw some random chemicals
together and wait a few million years to see what develops? :-)
Do not archive that. Just poking fun right back.
Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>
>
>I keep praying for the "faith based" fuels.
>
>
>GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 725 hrs)
>
>
>
>
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Scott VanArtsdalen
Van Arts Consulting Services
3848 McHenry Ave
Suite #155-184
Modesto, CA 95356
209-986-4647
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