---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/30/04: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:20 AM - More Lister Comments - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!!! (Matt Dralle) 2. 07:44 AM - more FGN questions - Removing Blue Plastic (Philip Condon) 3. 07:54 AM - Re: torque wrench (Charles Rowbotham) 4. 08:53 AM - Re:titanium tie down bolts (Bob n' Lu Olds) 5. 09:34 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 35 Msgs - 11/29/04 (LeastDrag93066@aol.com) 6. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Lycoming (O-320) Crankcase Ventilation (Bob J) 7. 10:22 AM - Re: more FGN questions - Removing Blue Plastic (LarryRobertHelming) 8. 10:27 AM - Help with Prop Choice (Catto or Sensenich) (sdellangelo@netzero.com) 9. 11:36 AM - Re: Help with Prop Choice (Catto or Sensenich) (Scott Bilinski) 10. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 35 Msgs - 11/29/04 (Bob 1) 11. 01:12 PM - Re: Help with Prop Choice (Catto or Sensenich) (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 12. 01:13 PM - TV show, building a kit plane (Dan Checkoway) 13. 01:35 PM - Com antennas (Terry Watson) 14. 02:28 PM - Re: [VAF Mailing List] TV show, building a kit plane (Kevin Hanson) 15. 03:20 PM - Fuel selector handle loose (GEORGE INMAN) 16. 05:37 PM - "Project" Insurance (Glenn Brasch) 17. 06:25 PM - Re: Fuel selector handle loose (LarryRobertHelming) 18. 06:40 PM - Re: "Project" Insurance (Jim Cimino) 19. 07:17 PM - Re: Help with Prop Choice (Cato or Sensenich) (John Furey) 20. 07:19 PM - Re: Fuel selector handle loose (John Furey) 21. 08:31 PM - Re: Fuel selector handle loose (Jerry Springer) 22. 09:00 PM - Re: Fuel selector handle loose (Vanremog@aol.com) 23. 09:54 PM - Pitot Static Check Nightmare (Ross S) 24. 10:02 PM - Re: "Project" Insurance (HCRV6@aol.com) 25. 11:24 PM - Re: Com antennas (Bob 1) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:41 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: More Lister Comments - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!!! --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Well, its November 30th and that means two things... I'm 41 years old today - your sympathy is appreciated; and its the last official day of this year's List Fund Raiser!!! There is still plenty of time to make your Contribution to assure your place on the List of Contributors. Also, there are still lots of Contribution Gifts available including the very popular List Archive CDROM, Aircraft Fuel Tester, 24 Years of the RVAtor, and the very cool Kitlog Pro software! Below is another awesome set of comments from listers regarding how valuable the Lists are. Please read them over and make a Contribution to show your support for the Lists as well! The List Contribution web site can be found at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you!! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ------------ Even More of What Listers Are Saying... -------------- [The List] has been very helpful as I am building an RV7A. Stan B. Wonderful resource. Ralph C. I don't think I could be building my plane without the help I get from the list. Richard V. Invaluable to my Kolb building. Clay S. Best source of light aircraft electrical information any where. Dan O. Great service. Bjorn B. The lists are certainly worth it! Jim M. The Lists have been and continue to be a valuable tool. Jeff O. Exceptional service. Larry M. [The List] has been very helpful, informative and entertaining. Sterling B. Very helpful resource. Grant C. I don't think I could build my 601XL without the list. William G. Great service to the aviation community. John W. I have saved a ton of money in the operation of my [aircraft]. Lee P. Great contribution to builders everywhere! Tom E. [The List] is one of my nightly entertainments. Ross S. A great service and I hope you can keep it going! Bob O. My building support group. Richard V. Has made the operation of my aircraft much safer... Lee P. Now that I am close to completion of my [homebuilt], I look back and wonder how I could ever have made it this far without [the Lists]. Jeff O. I check the List twice daily at least. Anthony W. Thank you for taking care of us all with these most important Lists. William M. The List is very valuable to me... Red H. Great web site!! Robert H. Thanks for giving me another year of learning. Larry M. I don't think I'd have been able to get my project airborne without it! Grant C. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:38 AM PST US From: "Philip Condon" Subject: RV-List: more FGN questions - Removing Blue Plastic --> RV-List message posted by: "Philip Condon" Don't bother or worry about with this plastic. When the professional painter finally paints your airplane, the first thing he does is rub your aluminum down with a chunk of street asphalt to rough up the surface to give the primer something to stick to. Exaggerating here, but the point is you don't want to be there when this prep process occurs, you'll cry. The end product is a nice paint job though............. ............................................................................ ............ 2) Re removing blue plastic file. We'd like to leave as much of it on as long as possible to protect the alclad. What is the best way to remove a narrow strip along the rivet lines without scoring the metal? Just getting started, Wayne & Jim in Niles MI ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:44 AM PST US From: "Charles Rowbotham" Subject: RE: RV-List: torque wrench --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" Quinn, Re: Avery's torque wrench - we have been very pleased with it during after building our 8. Chuck & Dave Rowbotham >From: >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RV-List: torque wrench Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:59:05 -0700 > >--> RV-List message posted by: > >Does anyone have experience with a Avery's $65 Click-Type 20 to 200 >inch-pound torque wrench? I have one on order, but there may be time to >upgrade if needed. > >Anyone know the range of torque values required on the RV-10 (QB)? > >Anyone know whether the required accuracy of torque values on the RV >dictate periodic calibration of the torque wrench? > >Thanks, > >Quinn Talley >RV10 Tail Cone >40295 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:22 AM PST US From: "Bob n' Lu Olds" Subject: RV-List: Re:titanium tie down bolts --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob n' Lu Olds" I guess I just found out I am a racer ! I have used stainless steel tie down bolts and after use I put them into my little tool bag(A leatherette shave kit bag) until needed again. The tool bag has velcro on the bottom and sits on the other half of the velcro on top of the center tunnel in our RV-4. Hasn't come off yet,even when upside down. Bob Olds RV-4 Charleston,Arkansas Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:01 AM PST US From: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 35 Msgs - 11/29/04 --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Hi All, Your link to a "wingtip" COM antenna, SA-006, appears to be the antenna designed as a Lancair fuselage COM antenna. This is not a "wingtip" antenna. The Aircraft Spruce and Specialty catalog has the Model 1A wingtip COM antenna. If installed to the instructions, this is almost as good as the belly mounted bent whip antenna. This antenna is available directly from the manufacturer at a lower price than AC$. Contact Bob Archer (310) 316-8796, or email him at _bobsantennas@earthlink.com_ (mailto:bobsantennas@earthlink.com) IMHO, the archives are a useless reference to "wingtip antenna". There is more than one manufacturer of wingtip antennas. The archived posts do not include the antenna manufacturer they are discussing (cussing? :-) ). Or, sometimes, if they were discussing a wingtip COM antenna, or NAV antenna. Regards, Jim Ayers Less Drag Products, Inc. _www.lessdrag.com_ (http://www.lessdrag.com) In a message dated 11/30/2004 12:00:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes: Time: 12:02:41 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Comm Antenna From: sjhdcl@kingston.net --> RV-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net Anybody using this comm antenna from Van's that goes inside the canopy? http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1101758476-330-27&browse =avionics&product=lowdrag-antennas How about the comm antenna in the wing tip as seen here: http://www.aerocraftparts.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=SA-006&Category=0f91b131-8228 -4617-98f0-06fea064876c I'm looking for any practicle comparisons to external bent whip. Steve RV7A #2 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:50 AM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; b=X2/F+913TUO423tVHW26Np5ZTA0vm9wQG8BG9IpB/ypW6IsZpVhBQfxDY4p6FQXpFZczsVmHuLIXbyMUO+xIntCEClJ0qJJO9SJVeP2LerM9U0Tm7R13qKU4i5udrhDN6772FcTZgqF4yKSo/GIkI2/pq1NSkvpkDSgXzbis3iUReceived: by 10.54.4.26 with SMTP id 26mr191123wrd; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:17:04 -0800 (PST) From: Bob J Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Lycoming (O-320) Crankcase Ventilation --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J My neighbor has a Walker air/oil seperator (now made by Airwolf) in his Bonanza. These seperators use the vacuum pump outlet to pull negative pressure on the crankcase via the seperator. At $475 they're a bit pricey but I understand they work well. It appears to be a simple unit that could be welded up fairly easily. Has anyone here looked at making a homebuilt version? Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:42:32 -0600, RV_8 Pilot wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" > > Hmmm... I'd rather blow all that oil out the breather vent than the front > seal!! *Lot* less messy!! ;) ;) > > Lots of good ideas. Thanks for all the comments. Gives me something to > work with in the coming months of less good weather. > > Thanks again. > > Bryan > > >From: "Kyle Boatright" > >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Lycoming (O-320) Crankcase Ventilation > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:24:30 -0500 > > > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" > > > >Experience based comments below... > > > >KB > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Martin Hone" > >To: > >Subject: RV-List: Re: Lycoming (O-320) Crankcase Ventilation > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" > > > > > > > > > G'day Bryan, > > > > > > You might consider this. Make up a fitting that incorporates a reed > >valve > > > (flapper valve) that goes on the engine breather hose. This acts as a > > > one-way valve, letting crankcase pressure escape but creates a small > > > negative pressure situation in the case. We use such a system on our > > > Harley > > > race motors which are notorious for pressurising the cases. We use > > > stainless > > > reeds that were common with 2-stroke dirtbikes, most of which use > > > carbonfibre now. Just make sure it has sufficient flow. > > > > > > Simpler still, just cut the end of the breather hose on an angle and > >stick > > > it into the airstream facing aft... > > > >Not a good idea. I had an experience 3 years ago (I think?) where I lost > >quite a bit of oil due to an aft facing breather vent and an unfastened > >dipstick. Made a real mess on the belly of the aircraft, and if the flight > >had been 1 hour instead of 15 minutes, I'd have run the engine out of oil. > > > >The story is in the archives, and Van's published a slightly more formal > >version in the RVator... > > > >KB > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Martin in Oz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:14 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: more FGN questions - Removing Blue Plastic --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" Wayne & Jim: To answer the question, use a hot soldering iron and a strip of wood for straight edge. Better still to just remove the whole protection sheet and save some time. The skin will, as Philip says, get scuffed up really well later on during painting anyway. I cut the strips like you asked about and after 2 years, there was a difference in how the exposed and unexposed skin looked after I removed the remaining protective sheet. We want it to all look the same before painting anyway, right? So, save some time. Take it off when first working on it and be done with it. Little risk in doing that. Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Condon" Subject: RV-List: more FGN questions - Removing Blue Plastic > --> RV-List message posted by: "Philip Condon" > > Don't bother or worry about with this plastic. When the professional painter > finally paints your airplane, the first thing he does is rub your aluminum > down with a chunk of street asphalt to rough up the surface to give the > primer something to stick to. Exaggerating here, but the point is you don't > want to be there when this prep process occurs, you'll cry. The end product > is a nice paint job though............. > > ............................................................................ > ............ > 2) Re removing blue plastic file. > We'd like to leave as much of it on as long as possible to protect the > alclad. What is the best way to remove a narrow strip along the rivet lines > without scoring the metal? > > Just getting started, > Wayne & Jim in Niles MI > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:21 AM PST US From: "sdellangelo@netzero.com" Subject: RV-List: Help with Prop Choice (Catto or Sensenich) --> RV-List message posted by: "sdellangelo@netzero.com" I am trying to decide whether to get a Sensenich or 3 bladed Catto for my 9A? I searched the archives and have found only good things about the Catto and that it does hold up to rain pretty well (even better if Prop Guard is installed). Can anybody give me any pros/cons besides what I have? Here is what i've got. I am definitely doing fixed pitch. Catto is a little (not much) cheaper, probably lighter even with 3 blades??, performance similar??, smoother, no RPM restrictions. Sensenich is tougher?? (but Catto supposedly ok in rain as said above), better idle because of more inertia. It does have RPM restrictions and also according to Sensenich might be a problem with 9:1 compression that I plan to do. Catto would be somewhere like 66X70 or 72 (the way he measures) and Sensenich 70X81 probably. I "should" be somewhere in the 170 horsepower range out of an O-320. Thanks, Scott DellAngelo #90598 Fuselage Plainfield, IL NetZero HiSpeed $14.95. Visit Sam Goody, Suncoast or MediaPlay Stores. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:23 AM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: Help with Prop Choice (Catto or Sensenich) --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski What will the weight difference do for your CG? Might make a big difference in how much you can carry in back. At 06:25 PM 11/30/2004 +0000, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "sdellangelo@netzero.com" > > > >I am trying to decide whether to get a Sensenich or 3 bladed Catto for my >9A? I searched the archives and have found only good things about the >Catto and that it does hold up to rain pretty well (even better if Prop >Guard is installed). Can anybody give me any pros/cons besides what I >have? Here is what i've got. I am definitely doing fixed pitch. > >Catto is a little (not much) cheaper, probably lighter even with 3 >blades??, performance similar??, smoother, no RPM restrictions. > >Sensenich is tougher?? (but Catto supposedly ok in rain as said above), >better idle because of more inertia. It does have RPM restrictions and >also according to Sensenich might be a problem with 9:1 compression that I >plan to do. > >Catto would be somewhere like 66X70 or 72 (the way he measures) and >Sensenich 70X81 probably. I "should" be somewhere in the 170 horsepower >range out of an O-320. > >Thanks, >Scott DellAngelo >#90598 Fuselage >Plainfield, IL > >NetZero HiSpeed $14.95. >Visit Sam Goody, Suncoast or MediaPlay Stores. > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:09 PM PST US From: "Bob 1" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 35 Msgs - 11/29/04 --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" > > The Aircraft Spruce and Specialty catalog has the Model 1A wingtip COM > antenna. If installed to the instructions, this is almost as good as the belly > mounted bent whip antenna.> >This antenna is available directly from the manufacturer at a lower price >than AC$. Contact Bob Archer...... > Regards, > Jim Ayers > Less Drag Products, Inc. > _www.lessdrag.com_ (http://www.lessdrag.com) ========================= "Almost as good" does not compute. Got legitimat/objective comparison specs? As to Bob Archer stuff... If you are associated in a business way, it should be duly noted so the reader might understand where you are coming from. Bob ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:12:03 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Help with Prop Choice (Catto or Sensenich) --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 11/30/04 12:28:39 PM Central Standard Time, sdellangelo@netzero.com writes: > I am trying to decide whether to get a Sensenich or 3 bladed Catto for my > 9A? >>>> Another data point- Catto props have chewed a whole bunch of air around Reno for many years, but now he mostly makes 3-blades for RVs... All your other points agree with my experience. Mark -6A, 150 hp Catto 3-blade ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:54 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" , Subject: RV-List: TV show, building a kit plane --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" Check it out...here's that TV show filmed a few months ago when they decked my RV-7 out with cameras and had me take Walter Tondu up for a ride. Dave Richardson was shooting air-to-air footage from a Christen Eagle in formation: http://images.rvproject.com/movies/fastlane.wmv Slightly lower bandwidth version: http://images.rvproject.com/movies/Fine_living.wmv The show aired on the Fine Living Network and is supposed to air again in early December. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:17 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RV-List: Com antennas --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" Bob 1, Maybe you could do a study, collect some numbers, write it up and get back to us. In the meantime, Jim's opinion of "almost as good" is useful. Terry RV-8A wiring & cowling Seattle --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" > > The Aircraft Spruce and Specialty catalog has the Model 1A wingtip COM > antenna. If installed to the instructions, this is almost as good as the belly > mounted bent whip antenna.> >This antenna is available directly from the manufacturer at a lower price >than AC$. Contact Bob Archer...... > Regards, > Jim Ayers > Less Drag Products, Inc. > _www.lessdrag.com_ (http://www.lessdrag.com) ========================= "Almost as good" does not compute. Got legitimat/objective comparison specs? As to Bob Archer stuff... If you are associated in a business way, it should be duly noted so the reader might understand where you are coming from. Bob ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:28:54 PM PST US From: Kevin Hanson Subject: RV-List: Re: [VAF Mailing List] TV show, building a kit plane --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Hanson Nice aileron roll...where's the parachutes you're supposed to wear :) Cheers, Kevin rv-8, tail Dan Checkoway wrote: > > Check it out...here's that TV show filmed a few months ago when they > decked > my RV-7 out with cameras and had me take Walter Tondu up for a ride. Dave > Richardson was shooting air-to-air footage from a Christen Eagle in > formation: > > http://images.rvproject.com/movies/fastlane.wmv > > Slightly lower bandwidth version: > > http://images.rvproject.com/movies/Fine_living.wmv > > The show aired on the Fine Living Network and is supposed to air again in > early December. > > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > > > Online help on this group at: > http://help.yahoo.com/help/groups/ > > > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > > > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vansairforce/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > vansairforce-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Service . > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:20:36 PM PST US From: "GEORGE INMAN" Subject: RV-List: Fuel selector handle loose --> RV-List message posted by: "GEORGE INMAN" I have the Van's standard fuel selector. It is new but the handle is not tight. It moves a small amount when switching tanks.I feel it might become more loose and eventually I will be unable to switch tanks. Probably at the worst time!! Have others had this problem? GEORGE H. INMAN ghinman@allstream.net CELL 204 799 7062 HOME 204 287 8334 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:04 PM PST US From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: "Project" Insurance --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" Can anybody recommend a company for "project" insurance please? Thanks in advance. Glenn in Arizona -9A fuselage. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:30 PM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel selector handle loose --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" Can you tighten the set screw? Subject: RV-List: Fuel selector handle loose > --> RV-List message posted by: "GEORGE INMAN" > > I have the Van's standard fuel selector. > It is new but the handle is not tight. > It moves a small amount when switching > tanks.I feel it might become more loose and > eventually I will be unable to switch tanks. > Probably at the worst time!! > Have others had this problem? > > GEORGE H. INMAN > ghinman@allstream.net > CELL 204 799 7062 > HOME 204 287 8334 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:22 PM PST US From: "Jim Cimino" Subject: Re: RV-List: "Project" Insurance --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" Nation Air. They sell it and you can transfere the balance when you are ready to fly. Jim James Cimino RV-8 SN 80039 100+ Hours 570-842-4057 http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Brasch" Subject: RV-List: "Project" Insurance > --> RV-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" > > Can anybody recommend a company for "project" insurance please? Thanks in > advance. Glenn in Arizona -9A fuselage. > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:20 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Help with Prop Choice (Cato or Sensenich) --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Not familiar with the Cato but I had good luck with a Sterba and I liked my Senenich 70X80 which is for sale since I went with a Constant Speed. John Furey RV6A ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:25 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel selector handle loose --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I would install the Andair now and save yourself the trouble later. John Furey 2nd RV6A ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:04 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel selector handle loose --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer John Furey wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" > >I would install the Andair now and save yourself the trouble later. > >John Furey >2nd RV6A > > > > What trouble is that? Jerry(over 1000 hours trouble free Van's fuel selector valve) Springer do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:57 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel selector handle loose --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 11/30/2004 3:21:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ghinman@allstream.net writes: I have the Van's standard fuel selector. It is new but the handle is not tight. It moves a small amount when switching tanks.I feel it might become more loose and eventually I will be unable to switch tanks. Probably at the worst time!! Have others had this problem? ======================================= George- What part is loose? As long as the handle tightly fits the shaft, a small amount of slop in the mechanism is not a problem IMO. Mine has remained absolutely unchanged in the 730 hrs, and I suspect that yours will be no different. GV (RV-6A N1GV, Flying 725hrs) ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:47 PM PST US From: "Ross S" Subject: RV-List: Pitot Static Check Nightmare --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross S" O.K. Newbies, Listen up. When you start plumbing your pitot and static systems be careful with the hardware you choose. I used some of the nylo-seal fittings sold through spruce along with the o-ring style fittings sold through Vans. Today I had an avionics shop come out to certify my panel for Instrument Work and all hell broke loose. What should have been a couple hour task turned into a major project. When we tried to test the static system, it was tight with no leaks, but for some reason the Dynon airspeed was cranking up along with the altitute, even though we applied suction to both the pitot tube and the static ports. After about two hours of head scratching and tearing apart my panel, we found that one of the nylo-seal elbows I got from Spruce was plugged. It had a manufacturing defect that left a thin layer of nylon in the middle of the elbow. You could't see it but I tried to blow through it and turned blue in the face. Moral of the Story: Buy good fittings ( I think the O-ring style are better) and blow through all of them prior to assembly. This would have saved me a couple hours of A&P ($65/hour) time as well as about 6 hours of my time ($0.85/hour based on the planes market value) and a bunch of chipped paint around screw heads on my once perferct panel. Ross Schlotthauer RV-7 - Almost There On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:23 PM PST US From: HCRV6@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: "Project" Insurance --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com In a message dated 11/30/04 5:38:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, gbrasch@earthlink.net writes: << Can anybody recommend a company for "project" insurance please? Thanks in advance. Glenn in Arizona -9A fuselage. >> I have been very satisfied with Nation Air for builder's insurance and now have their in-flight coverage. Just my $0.02. Harry Crosby Pleasanton, California RV-6, flying!!! ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:16 PM PST US From: "Bob 1" Subject: Re: RV-List: Com antennas --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" > Maybe you could do a study, collect some numbers, write it up and get back > to us. In the meantime, Jim's opinion of "almost as good" is useful. > > Terry > RV-8A wiring & cowling > Seattle ================================= Sorry, the burden of proof legitimately rests with whomever is making a claim - and that would not be me. After 40 years in the telecom industry, I've learned to appreciate hard antenna facts over warm and fuzzy subjective opinions. YMMV. Bob