RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 12/06/04


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:24 AM - 2004 List of Contributors - A Special Thank You... (Matt Dralle)
     2. 04:16 AM - Re: Molex connectors (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
     3. 06:24 AM - Re: RV-8 Canopy Latch (GRENIER@aol.com)
     4. 07:13 AM - Re: EGT(ease) (Scott Bilinski)
     5. 07:23 AM - Decison time (Eustace Bowhay)
     6. 08:50 AM - Cold/Lean Cylinders  (Bluecavu@aol.com)
     7. 09:41 AM - Re: Engine overhaul (Mike Robertson)
     8. 09:57 AM - Bag Contents List (Gar Pessel)
     9. 10:37 AM - Aluminum Oxide (j1j2h3@juno.com)
    10. 10:58 AM - Re: Bag Contents List (Robert Cutter)
    11. 11:51 AM - Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR)
    12. 12:00 PM - Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR)
    13. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders (linn walters)
    14. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders (Alex Peterson)
    15. 05:58 PM - Re: Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders (Dave Mader)
    16. 06:49 PM - How smooth was it? (Wheeler North)
    17. 07:38 PM - > Re: Bag contents (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
    18. 09:04 PM - Re: RV-8 Canopy Latch (William Davis)
    19. 09:36 PM - Re: Decison time (DejaVu)
    20. 10:01 PM - Re: Decison time (Jeff Point)
    21. 10:22 PM - airoil spearator (Wheeler North)
    22. 10:45 PM - Re: Fire Suppression System-items from my personal archive (Andre Berthet)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:24:54 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: 2004 List of Contributors - A Special Thank You...
    --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, First let me say Thank You to everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! I was particularly touched by all of the wonderful comments people made regarding the Lists and how much they mean to them. As I have said many times before, running these Lists and creating the many new features is truly a labor of love. This is why your comments of support and appreciation have particular meaning for me. Your generosity during this time of List support only underscores the delightful sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. I would also once again like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ) who so generously supported this year's Fund Raiser with both free and substantially discounted merchandise!! Andy is truly one of a kind, and a superb businessman, and I cannot thank him enough for all that he's done! If you have any aircraft media needs in the near future, I would ask that you please give his great web site a look. Thanks again Andy, for all your support! And I would also like to thank Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises (www.kitlog.com) who has generously contributed free registered copies of his great Windows Kit Logging software called Kitlog Pro in support of this year's List Fund Raiser! Thank you, Paul! For those of you that selected this sweet gift, you should be receiving your Registration Key directly from Paul in the next week or so. And finally, below you will find the 2004 List of Contributors current as of 12/5/04! Have a look at the list of names there as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank you all enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! There are still a few of the various Free Gifts left, so please feel free to yet make your Contribution and get a great Free Gift to-boot! Once again, the URL for the Contributions web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks. I hope to have everything shipping out by the end of the month. Generally everything will go out via USPS, so be nice to your postman this month, he might be bringing you something fun! Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ------------------ 2004 List of Contributors --------------------- Aldrich, Scott Alexander, George Aller, Daniel Alley, Brian Amos, Paul Amundsen, Blair Anderson, Edward Anthony, Bruce Applefeld, Gerald Applegate, William Arbeitman, Gordon Archer, Matt Ashcraft, Keith Ashford, James Austin, Peter Ayers, Jim Babb, Tony Bahrns, Stan Bailey, Rick Baker, Jim Baker, Mike Baker, Owen Baker, Roger Baker, Victor Bakke, Bj%f8rn Baldwin, James Ballard, Jerry Ballenger, James Banes, John Banyai, Michael Barnes, Tom Barnett, W.Mark Barrie, Darwin Barter, Tom Basiliere, Rick Bates, Jr, Marcus BauerJr, Fred Bean, James Bean, Robert Beauchamp, Norm Beene, Kenneth Bell, Bruce Benjamin, Hal Benson, Lonn Benson, Lonnie Bergh, Dave Bernard, William Berner, Walter Bernier, Jim Bertelli, John Berthet, Andre Bertz, Gary Bettmeng, Rick Bezzard, Richard Bidle, Jerry Bieberdorf, Roger Bikle, Alan Bish, Dan Blackwell, Charles Blackwell, Jimmie Blake, James Boardman, Don Bockelman, David Boetto, Steve Bonds, Kevin Boothe, Gary Booze, George Borger, Robert Borne, Chuck Bothe, Andreas Boucher, Michel Boulet, Paul Bourne, Larry Bowden, Terry Bowen, Larry Bowhay, Eustance Bowman, John Boyd, Don Boyer, James Brame, Charles Brandt, Leroy Branscomb, Warren Brasch, Glenn Breckenridge, Bruce Brick, John Briggs, Tracy Brooks, John Brooks, Sterling Broom, Richard Brown, David Brown, Ken Brown, Kent Brown, Robert Brunke, John Bryan, Mark Bryan, Tim Bryant, Geoff Buchanan, Guy Buchanan, Sam Buchmann, Kenneth Buehlmann, Peter Buess, Alfred Bullock, Jack Burden, Ronald Burke, James Burnett, Ron Burns, Mark Burrill, Phil Burton, Charlie Burton, James Butcher, Jim Butcher, Ron Butler, Francis Butler, Sherman Butler, Thomas Butterfield, John Buyse, Lieven Caldwell, Lapsley Calloway, Terry Cann, Robert Cannon, Paul Cantrell, Jimmy Cantrell, Kenneth Capen, Ralph Capra, Salvatore Carlton, Raymond Carpenter, Kenneth Carroll, Randy Carter, David Carter, Howard Cary, William Celestre, Rich Challgren, Stanley Chambers, Leslie Chandler, Rick Chatham, Bob Chenoweth, William Chevaillier, Mason Ciolino, John Clark, James Clark, John Clay, Dennis Clayton, James Clement, Jim Clyma, Frank Coalwell, Timothy Cochran, Stewart Cockrell, Alan Coggins, Mickey Cole, Gary Cole, Gerry Collins, Bob Colucci, Tony Combs, Doyle Compton, Scott Condrey, Bob Conkling, J.Michael Connell, Joseph Conrad, Gerald Constant, Jeremy Cook, Craig Cook, Doug Cooley, John Cooper, James Copeland, Garrett Corbalis, .Leo Corbett, Claude Corder, Michael Corner, Jim Corriveau, Grant Cottingham, Richard Cottrell, Larry Coursey, William Courtney, James Cox, JimL. 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    Time: 04:16:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Molex connectors
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> -----Original Message----- From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) Subject: RE: RV-List: Molex connectors A very quick google search yielded the specs for the pins. http://www.ttieurope.com/microsites/molex/products_items/other/power_con nector/index.cfm These are good for 5 amp circuits. Another quick google search yielded the specs for the 093 also http://www.esskabel.de/Produkte/Steckverbinder/Steckverbindersereien/Mol ex/MOLEX-haupt.htm .093 is good for 12 amps. Also the Aeroelectric list has lots of discussions on these as well. Enjoy Mike Stewart Wiring my brains out. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H.Ivan Haecker Subject: RV-List: Molex connectors --> RV-List message posted by: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com> Listers, Can someone in the know tell me if .062" molex terminals are capable of handling the current flow required for a taillight/strobe unit in the rudder or are the larger diameter (.093) terminals necessary? Thanks, Ivan Haecker


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    Time: 06:24:18 AM PST US
    From: GRENIER@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Canopy Latch
    --> RV-List message posted by: GRENIER@aol.com Bill, I would like to order one of your latches. Ray Grenier


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    Time: 07:13:57 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: EGT(ease)
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Several thoughts: Dont even think of trying to run LOP with out a engine monitor on all cylinders, on any engine. Dont try running LOP with a carb. On an injected engine you dont need the expensive GAMI injectors to run LOP. Use the Air Flow Performance injectors that do exactly the same thing. Last time I checked 2 cyl peaked at 8.0 and 2 at 8.1. Dose not get any better than that. The AFP nozzles are about 15 bucks apiece. I had to order 5 to get it dialed in just right. AFP nozzles $75.00.......... GAMI injectors $400.00. At 07:53 AM 12/4/2004 -0800, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> > >Try adding carb heat. Many carbureted engines WILL >run lean of peak with the addition of some carb heat >to assist with the fuel atomization. The amount of >carb heat varies from engine to engine. Some will do >it with just a little heat, and others require nearly >full heat. A temperature probe in the carb can help >with this. 70 degrees is about the ideal throat >temperature for ideal carburetor performance > > >--- Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com > > > > So while we're on the subject.... > > > > As I lean my carbureted E3D, the EGTs continue to > > climb until the engine goes > > rough. Will I ever see 50 deg. lean of peak? 8-( > > > > What's going on here? > > > > From The PossumWorks > > Mark & do not archive mindless > > questions............. > > > > > > > > Click on the > > this > > by the > > Admin. > > _-> > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ >http://my.yahoo.com > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 07:23:13 AM PST US
    From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
    Subject: Decison time
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net> Upon receiving the order form for the finishing kit for the RV 10 the upholstery decision could not be put off any longer. I was impressed with the quality of the Oregon Aero seats in Van's first 10. On checking with Oregon Aero the cost for the four seats is just beyond what I have budgeted for. This was a disappointment as I had planned on using them. I considered having them done locally but was concerned about the quality and appearance. Then I remembered the comments on the list about Flight Line Interiors and gave them a call. Abby answered the phone and I asked her if she would be interested in doing them for me. Her enthusiasm was immediately apparent and referred me to her web page and sent me samples of the materials available. There is a great variety and they are fire resistant. The rear seats for the 10 are very similar to the front seats in the two place RV's so the cost was easily established, she hasn't done a set of front seats yet for the 10 so an exact price was not available for them however the foam is supplied with the front seats so the cost of the upholstery should be reasonable. After looking at her web site I realize that she is specializing in upholstery for the RV's and the quality looks very professional. For me it seems the way to go and am shipping my front seats to her. Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay B.C.


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    Time: 08:50:06 AM PST US
    From: Bluecavu@aol.com
    Subject: Cold/Lean Cylinders
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com > > >> The problem doesn't exist at full throttle conditions (while running >> in cold air). All CHT's & EGT's are within reason: within 25* for >> CHT's >> & within 100* for EGT's. It's only when I come off of a full throttle >> condition that I am having this problem. > Hmmm. I have a similar problem -although not quite as pronounced. RV-4. O-320 Marvel Sheb. One thing that keeps occurring to me is that the manifold pressures at partial power settings are much lower than at full throttle (I know this sounds like duh!, but stick with me here) -put differently -the *vacuum* existing in the intake system (which would tend to exacerbate any leakage) is *much* higher at partial throttle than at full throttle -where it's practically nil (if not non-existant with a good ram-air recovery). I keep thinking this must have something to do with why it's only a problem at partial power settings... like intake leaks typically are. Here's the thing...It would seem that this vacuum could also tend to make the differences in flow in even a non-leaky intake more pronounced. Path of least resistance, right? Obviously the dense cold air just amplifies it that much more... Anyone? Anyone? One answer... go back to having no engine monitoring equip except for OP and OT. Be fat dumb and happy. Scott N4ZW


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    Time: 09:41:39 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Engine overhaul
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com> David, I have access to the Service Instruction 1218A. It does say that you must change the accessory drive housing when converting to the intergal drive camshaft. There are also a couple of other parts that need to change. If you send me a FAX number off list I will send you a copy of the Service Instruction. It is only 4 pages long. Mike Robertson >From: David L Ahrens <daviddla@juno.com> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: RV-List@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Engine overhaul >Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 10:45:55 -0800 > >--> RV-List message posted by: David L Ahrens <daviddla@juno.com> > >Hello list members: I am rebuilding a 0-320B3B. I have most of the parts >that I need except for the camshaft. The question I have is, can I change >to the camshaft with the intergal gear? I have the parts book and know >the different parts that are required at the tach drive end. I am >concerned about the possible need to change out the accessory case >because of oil slinger, etc.. I have not been able to locate a copy of >Lycoming Service Letter 1218A that addresses the conversion. Can anyone >help? >Thanks and happy holidays, David Ahrens, RV6A > >


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    Time: 09:57:19 AM PST US
    From: "Gar Pessel" <pessel@ptialaska.net>
    Subject: Bag Contents List
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Gar Pessel" <pessel@ptialaska.net> I have started building a 9A (I have a 6 flying for a couple of years) and am missing a bag contents list for the wings of the 9A. Being familiar with most parts, I did not inventory each baggie when I got the kit. Now I discover that the enclosed bag contents list for the 9A wings is for the wings of an RV10. My bad, I confess. For a repeat offender, this is humiliating. When I was building the 6, someone had compiled a bag contents list in excel for RV's. It was most useful, since I put it in an Access database and could look up whatever widget I wanted on a laptop in the shop rather than scanning long lists of bag contents. The list available at Matronics is apparently that old list and does not include RV9 bags. Anybody know where I might get a more modern file?? Thanks, Gar Pessel, Fairbanks, Alaska (hit 20 below this morning--good time to build airplanes)


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    Time: 10:37:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Aluminum Oxide
    From: j1j2h3@juno.com
    --> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com I have seen several warnings against using aluminum oxide sand paper on aluminum, but the use of Scotchbrite pads seems to be recommended. However, I have found that many of the Scotchbrite pads use aluminum oxide as the abrasive. More information can be found at http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/aerospace/node_ GSJJPWFGJ7be/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSNNJ6NQDKge/gvel_B44C9SRPTWgl/theme _us_aerospace_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html . As far as I can determine from a quick examination of this web site , all of the Scotchbrite wheels, but not all of the Scotchbrite disks, use silicon carbide. Does anyone have any additional information or comments on this? Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage (giving new meaning to the term slow-build) Do not archive


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    Time: 10:58:10 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Cutter" <rcutter@cupower.com>
    Subject: Re: Bag Contents List
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Robert Cutter" <rcutter@cupower.com> I bought a partially completed -4 and called Van's. They sent me a bag list by email for the -4. Have you tried them? Robert Cutter Fuselage ----- Original Message ----- From: Gar Pessel To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:56 PM Subject: RV-List: Bag Contents List --> RV-List message posted by: "Gar Pessel" <pessel@ptialaska.net> I have started building a 9A (I have a 6 flying for a couple of years) and am missing a bag contents list for the wings of the 9A. Being familiar with most parts, I did not inventory each baggie when I got the kit. Now I discover that the enclosed bag contents list for the 9A wings is for the wings of an RV10. My bad, I confess. For a repeat offender, this is humiliating. When I was building the 6, someone had compiled a bag contents list in excel for RV's. It was most useful, since I put it in an Access database and could look up whatever widget I wanted on a laptop in the shop rather than scanning long lists of bag contents. The list available at Matronics is apparently that old list and does not include RV9 bags. Anybody know where I might get a more modern file?? Thanks, Gar Pessel, Fairbanks, Alaska (hit 20 below this morning--good time to build airplanes)


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    Time: 11:51:53 AM PST US
    From: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
    Subject: Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> Martin, Good points. I've already replaced the carb with another unit from Sport Aero, with the same problems. Temp gauges have all been double checked against boiling water and Ice bath, so I know they are accurate.. The mixture control is out less than 1/2" when I start to see the EGT's coming down on #3 & #4 EGT's... I can double check the float level, but I'm relatively sure it's already at the spec'ed level. ( I have the service manual). Ignition timing has been double checked: it's at 25* BTDC. I'm using two electronic ignitions that have been checked with a timing light and analog signals from each ignition..... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV --> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au> Hi Fred, FWIW - it would seem to me that provided your instrumentation is accurate, that maybe your carb is providing a leaner than normal mixture, either from too small a jet or because the float level is set too low. At full throttle, the extra mixture enrichment could be masking this leanness. I would disassemble the carb and check float level and jets and passageways. As a matter of interest, how far out from the panel does the mixture control get before it starts having a noticeable effect ? My O-320 D1A starts to run rough when my mixture control is out about 3/4 of an inch. If everything checks out, and there are no airleaks, you could check the ignition timing for over-advance. Cheers Martin in Oz


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    Time: 12:00:32 PM PST US
    From: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
    Subject: Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> Alex, I have the Electronic international fuel flow meter in the plane. When the problem occurs, I'm still in the 9.5 GPH range (instead of 8.5 GPH in hot air) because the #1 & #2 cylinders are running real rich. Ultimately, (according to Lycoming) the CHT's are the real indication of the proper fuel mixture, but they are very slow in responding. EGT's give the initial trends for CHT's, and have a faster response time..... This appears to be a fuel sharing issue. I might have to put a honeycomb air flow straightener between the sump and the carb to fix the problem.... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> Fred, very precise description of your observations. It really seems like your partial throttle, full rich mixture position fuel flows are too low. I gather that you don't have a fuel flow meter in the plane. I don't know much about these carbs, but it sure seems like it is running things too lean (cold air would make that worse). A fuel flow sensor is not cheap, but I consider it a must have for proper engine management. The only real look at the panel during the takeoff roll for me is to verify that I have full fuel flow to the engine. The leaning process for me is always first by feel, then by fuel flow, then by egt. Alex Peterson RV6-A 559 hours Maple Grove, MN


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    Time: 01:00:59 PM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders
    --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR wrote: snip > This appears to be a fuel sharing issue. I might have to put a honeycomb >air flow straightener between the sump and the carb to fix the problem.... > I keep having this nagging feeling that you still have an induction leak. I know .... you said you don't have any leaks ..... but how did you check? Did you do the vacuum cleaner test??? Linn do not archive > >Fred Stucklen >RV-6A N926RV >


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    Time: 05:34:22 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Cold/Lean Cylinders
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W > UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> > > Alex, > > I have the Electronic international fuel flow meter in the > plane. When the > > problem occurs, I'm still in the 9.5 GPH range (instead of > 8.5 GPH in hot > air) > because the #1 & #2 cylinders are running real rich. > Ultimately, (according to Lycoming) the CHT's are the real > indication of the proper fuel mixture, but they are very slow > in responding. EGT's give the initial trends for CHT's, and > have a faster response time..... > This appears to be a fuel sharing issue. I might have to > put a honeycomb > air flow straightener between the sump and the carb to fix > the problem.... > > Fred Stucklen > RV-6A N926RV Fred, What fuel flow do you have at full power, full rich, at or near sea level? And what hp engine? Alex Peterson RV6-A 559 hours Maple Grove, MN http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 05:58:46 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Mader" <davemader@bresnan.net>
    Subject: Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Mader" <davemader@bresnan.net> FWIW I had a slightly similar problem with my RV6 about ten years ago. The problem was that when I brought the mixture back just a tiny bit, the engine would lean out and want to die, ran fine at full rich though. I posed this problem to the list back then and somebody suggested I drill out my main jet to a certain drill bit #. This was a M/S carb and I don't remember the particulars, but it solved the problem and the carb behaved normally after that. This could be a similar situation. --Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR Subject: RV-List: Re:Cold/Lean Cylinders --> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> Martin, Good points. I've already replaced the carb with another unit from Sport Aero, with the same problems. Temp gauges have all been double checked against boiling water and Ice bath, so I know they are accurate.. The mixture control is out less than 1/2" when I start to see the EGT's coming down on #3 & #4 EGT's... I can double check the float level, but I'm relatively sure it's already at the spec'ed level. ( I have the service manual). Ignition timing has been double checked: it's at 25* BTDC. I'm using two electronic ignitions that have been checked with a timing light and analog signals from each ignition..... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV --> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au> Hi Fred, FWIW - it would seem to me that provided your instrumentation is accurate, that maybe your carb is providing a leaner than normal mixture, either from too small a jet or because the float level is set too low. At full throttle, the extra mixture enrichment could be masking this leanness. I would disassemble the carb and check float level and jets and passageways. As a matter of interest, how far out from the panel does the mixture control get before it starts having a noticeable effect ? My O-320 D1A starts to run rough when my mixture control is out about 3/4 of an inch. If everything checks out, and there are no airleaks, you could check the ignition timing for over-advance. Cheers Martin in Oz


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    Time: 06:49:08 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: How smooth was it?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> It was so smooth Saturday just as a front was moving in that I was able to trim to 66 kts and use throttle and the Trio Avionics E-Z Pilot to auto-land the airplane. Well,,, I shut it off just as the tail wheel touched down and the mains were just ready to chirp. The down side was the darned autopilot had the tailwheel almost 2 full feet to the right of the centerline. It was pretty cool because my home airport is in a bowl so tends to have a little crosswind until about 30 ft agl then it goes dead calm. The nose stayed glued off course about 3-5 degrees until the dead zone, then corrected almost immediately and the plane was tracking straight ahead with no rudder input at touchdown. I have notified the boys at Trio so they can start working on an auto braking feature as well as all the other nifty stuff they are tinkering with. Now, that all said, I would never have even considered trying that with a Navaid, and would never recommend trying it to anyone with anything other than a 757. It was fairly stupid for me to try it and in fact I didn't really plan this, but it was so smooth I just never needed to do anything but minor throttle adjustments. About the time I started adding throttle to reduce vertical speed for touchdown I realized I hadn't shut off the servo. So the tail wheel touched about the time my hand hit the servo button. Kudos to the Trio folks, much like Vans designs their products work as advertised, if not slightly better. W


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    Time: 07:38:52 PM PST US
    From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
    Subject: Re: > Re: Bag contents
    --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com Go to _www.vansairforce.net/_ (http://www.vansairforce.net/) and look for the parts bag list on the left column of the home page. The RV-9 is there too. Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor Charleston,Arkansas Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers


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    Time: 09:04:46 PM PST US
    From: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Canopy Latch
    --> RV-List message posted by: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net> Hi Ray, Thanks for your interest in my canopy latch The preferred method of payment is by personal check. Please send $25 + $2 for S&H to: William Davis 119 Ridgeview Dr. Eustis, FL 32726 Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <GRENIER@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 Canopy Latch > --> RV-List message posted by: GRENIER@aol.com > > Bill, I would like to order one of your latches. > > Ray Grenier > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:36:04 PM PST US
    From: "DejaVu" <wvu@mail.ameritel.net>
    Subject: Re: Decison time
    --> RV-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@mail.ameritel.net> To be specific, OA charges ~$3000-$4000 for the -10 upholstery depending on the material. The fwd chairs and all foam come with the finish kit which is another $4000. What does Abby charge for other seats roughly? Would also appreciate her website. Anh -10 #141 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net> Subject: RV-List: Decison time > --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net> > > Upon receiving the order form for the finishing kit for the RV 10 the upholstery decision could not be put off any longer. > > I was impressed with the quality of the Oregon Aero seats in Van's first 10. On checking with Oregon Aero the cost for the four seats is just beyond what I have budgeted for. This was a disappointment as I had planned on using them. > > I considered having them done locally but was concerned about the quality and appearance. Then I remembered the comments on the list about Flight Line Interiors and gave them a call. Abby answered the phone and I asked her if she would be interested in doing them for me. Her enthusiasm was immediately apparent and referred me to her web page and sent me samples of the materials available. There is a great variety and they are fire resistant. > > The rear seats for the 10 are very similar to the front seats in the two place RV's so the cost was easily established, she hasn't done a set of front seats yet for the 10 so an exact price was not available for them however the foam is supplied with the front seats so the cost of the upholstery should be reasonable. > > After looking at her web site I realize that she is specializing in upholstery for the RV's and the quality looks very professional. For me it seems the way to go and am shipping my front seats to her. > > Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay B.C. > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 10:01:01 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Decison time
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/index.htm All the prices are on the site. Jeff Point > >


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    Time: 10:22:37 PM PST US
    From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
    Subject: airoil spearator
    --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us> I've been flying for 250+- hours with the Aircraft Spruce P/N 10570 Air Oil Separator - And it has worked very well- Without the steel wool - Check my first post on this issue, not all ACS separators are the same. My outlet has been routed onto the exhaust since day one, and this only partly helped the belly problem. Mostly it just made things blacker but still oily. The new one was made with much more internal overlap of the inlet and outlet. In fact the old one has the pipes pointed almost straight at each other with about 2" of space between them. I currently have the return drain routed back to the engine, but I'm liking the idea of a preflight drain sump instead. RE internal corrosion, having taken apart a large number of engines with less than 24 hours of down time prior to disassembly I can assure you that the oil does not stay coated on the steel parts for very long after running off of hot engine parts during cool down. Any moisture that condenses on steel inside will and does start corroding fairly quickly. I'm guessing the gig is can you put 2000 hours on your engine before the corrosion gets the better end of your engine. Those of us who fly a lot just wear out the dang thing out before corrosion can do its ugly deed. W


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    Time: 10:45:12 PM PST US
    From: "Andre Berthet" <aberthet@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Fire Suppression System-items from my personal archive
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Andre Berthet" <aberthet@sbcglobal.net> David, I'm also one who thinks having an onboard fire suppression system could be a good life saving measure. I did some searches on the Matronics archives (RVs) and found mostly deriding comments on such a system. Their point being, because of the very high air velocity going through the engine compartment; it would disperse the Halon gas before it could extinguish any fires. This would be true if the fire was localized in the high pressure area delimited by the baffling (engine top). However any fire between the firewall and the back on the engine (fuel pump, fuel and oil lines) or close to the injection/carburetor area is in a slower airflow. Besides engine fires are rarely located at the engine block or cylinders, but to the supporting accessories (fuel pump leaks, broken fuel or oil lines, induction backfiring, induction fire, overheated turbo or exhaust, etc.). An ideal system would also include some kind of optical or heat-sensing detection device, so the pilot could get an early warning. The first response to an engine fire would be to shut-off the fuel selector and master, let the engine starve while rapidly slowing down, and then flooding the engine compartment with Halon. Next would be getting ready for an emergency landing. The piston-driven airliners of the 50's were equipped with fire suppression blowing dibromodifluoromethane directly inside the engine nacelles. If it worked for them then, it should work for our tight fitted cowling too. Andre Pleasanton, CA > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Carter > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 1:56 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com; gbrasch@earthlink.net > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fire Suppression System-items from my personal > archive > > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net> > > I've attached 3 articles saved off of www.H3R.com website > (1.800.249.4289), > plus 3 e-mails with initial ideas on "how to mount". > > These will be stripped off by the RV-list so sending direct to you, Glenn. > Anyone else, contact me direct & I'll fwd this e-mail to you with > attachments. > > I'm planning on a Halon system in my RV-6. > > David Carter > Nederland, Texas > Canopy frame > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> > To: <RV-List@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: Fire Suppression System > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Glenn Brasch <gbrasch@earthlink.net> > > > > Has anyone installed a fire suppression system/bottle, and if so what > > brand? I searched the archives and saw some arguments pro and con, but > > that was about it. A friend has a system in a Glasair and it looks like > > cheap insurance to me. Thanks in advance. Glenn in Arizona -9A > fuselage. > > > > >




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