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1. 04:35 AM - Re: Re: [GRT_EFIS] Re: Autopilot GPS source switch (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
2. 04:40 AM - Re: Autopilot istallation instructions (LarryRobertHelming)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: EMag (RVer273sb@aol.com)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (DWENSING@aol.com)
5. 06:24 AM - Re: Aircraft Insurance: USAA (JT Helms)
6. 06:43 AM - Re: N174TY Flies! (Charles Rowbotham)
7. 06:56 AM - Auto Pilot choices (Charles Heathco)
8. 06:57 AM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (Bob J)
9. 07:22 AM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (Greg Young)
10. 07:27 AM - Re: Oil Cooler Location (Mike Mckenna)
11. 08:04 AM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (Bob J)
12. 08:15 AM - Re: Auto Pilot choices (LarryRobertHelming)
13. 08:22 AM - Re: Autopilot istallation instructions (HAL KEMPTHORNE)
14. 08:52 AM - Re: Auto Pilot choices (Sam Buchanan)
15. 09:09 AM - Re: Auto Pilot choices (Mickey Coggins)
16. 09:20 AM - RV-3 Engine Mount for sale (Sandifer Eric)
17. 09:35 AM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
18. 10:08 AM - 25 hour Phase One ()
19. 10:19 AM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (Bruce Gray)
20. 10:29 AM - Re: EMag (Richard Lundin)
21. 10:46 AM - Re: Auto Pilot choices (Ollie Washburn)
22. 11:37 AM - flopper latch (Frazier, Vincent A)
23. 11:41 AM - Re: flopper latch (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
24. 11:55 AM - Re: Autopilot istallation instructions (Kathleen (rv7))
25. 01:21 PM - Wheel pant brackets cracking? (Matthew Brandes)
26. 02:09 PM - Prop Extension (Rolf Unternaehrer)
27. 02:11 PM - Autopilot installation instructions (Eustace Bowhay)
28. 02:31 PM - Re: Aircraft Insurance: USAA (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
29. 02:32 PM - Re: Finding polished airplanes in SAR (Hull, Don)
30. 03:48 PM - E-Mag (Wheeler North)
31. 04:04 PM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (Richard McCraw)
32. 06:43 PM - Re: Please, oh PLEASE trim your messages (bertrv6@highstream.net)
33. 06:45 PM - Re: Prop Extension (Scott Jackson)
34. 06:51 PM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (James E. Clark)
35. 06:59 PM - Jeff Rose Ignition for sale-New (Edward Cole)
36. 07:08 PM - Re: Prop Extension (Jerry Springer)
37. 07:20 PM - Re: TRUNCATE AND DO NOT ARCHIVE (Bluecavu@aol.com)
38. 07:50 PM - Slow build switch to QB ()
39. 07:52 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Location (Curt Reimer)
40. 07:52 PM - Re: Please, oh PLEASE trim your messages (rv6tc)
41. 08:05 PM - Re: 25 hour Phase One (Stein Bruch)
42. 08:32 PM - #103 Rocket ride (FRED LAFORGE)
43. 09:48 PM - Battery Box (Pete Howell)
44. 10:31 PM - Re: Tailwheel (H.Ivan Haecker)
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| Subject: | Re: [GRT_EFIS] Re: Autopilot GPS source switch |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Lucky,
I asked this same ? to John Stark and he said you can split 3 times with
out any concern for appreciable signal degradation on a serial split.
I have had to split on several devices.
Mike
S8 Wiring.
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lucky
Subject: RV-List: Re: [GRT_EFIS] Re: Autopilot GPS source switch
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
That's only part of the solution, as Sam points out, and why I asked the
question to the list in the first place because I couldn't see the
switch solving the other part of the problem. I want the autopilot to
be driven by two different sources but also wanted the switch to serve
as a "T" for the Lawrence GPS seriel output to drive the GRT all the
time. But I had some coffee and realized that if I tie the GRT's GPS
seriel in line to the same pole that the Lawrence GPS output signal is
connected to then that pole acts as a always hot "T" to allow the GPS
signal to always find it's way to the GRT all the time. That can be
accomplished by putting both systems' wires into the same connector
before crimping (or solder contact before soldering).
Now it's a day later and when I look at this I don't even see the need
for the DP as Paul points out. I think this would work with a SPDT
switch like Paul does.
The main ? now is that if I have the switch in the position where the
Lawrence is feeding both systems the GPS signal out of the same wire and
power source, by splitting it's output what am I going to do to the
signal quality and ultimately reliability? Probably none with these
modern systems and short wire runs and minimal conductor exposure in low
RFI environments.
But anyone know for sure?
-------------- Original message --------------
>
>
> Real easy Lucky - a simple DPDT mini toggle switch with the serial
> lines hooked up to teh "outside" contacts and the autopilot serial
> lines connected to the middle poles. (I actually only switched the
> single serial line and not the grounds, as I am using a common signal
> ground for all of the serial lines in the system, so I could have
> gotten by with a SPDT switch - but then again, I'm an aeronautical
> engineer by training, and not a EE...what do I know about electrons?
> LOL...)
>
> Paul Dye
>
>
> --- In GRT_EFIS@yahoogroups.com, luckymacy@c... wrote:
> > I don't have my GPS yet (not sure if that actually would help) but
> I want to buy a switch that will let me select between my Lowrance
> GPS and the GRT EFIS output to drive my Trio autopilot and I saw this
> on someone's website. If I have the Lowrance driving the autopilot I
> still want it to also feed the EFIS. Can't find it now.
> >
> > What switch type am I looking to purchase and what's actually going
> to be wired up?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lucky
>
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That's only part of the solution, as Sam points out, and why I asked the
question to the list in the first place because I couldn't see the
switch solving the other part of the problem. I want the autopilot to be
driven by two different sources but alsowanted the switch to serve as a
"T" for the Lawrence GPS seriel output to drive the GRT all the time.But
I had some coffee and realized that if I tie the GRT's GPS seriel in
line to the same pole that the Lawrence GPS output signal isconnectedto
then that pole acts as a always hot"T" to allow the GPS signal to always
find it's way to the GRT all the time.That can be accomplished by
putting both systems'wires into the same connector before crimping (or
solder contact before soldering).
Now it's a day later and when I look at this I don't even see the need
for the DP as Paul points out. I think this would work with a SPDT
switch like Paul does.
The main ? now is that if I have the switch in the position where the
Lawrence is feeding both systems the GPS signal out of the same wire and
power source, by splitting it's output what am I going to do to the
signal quality and ultimately reliability? Probably none with these
modern systems and short wire runs and minimal conductor exposure in
lowRFI environments.
But anyone know for sure?
-------------- Original message --------------
Real easy Lucky - a simple DPDT mini toggle switch with the serial
lines hooked up to teh "outside" contacts and the autopilot serial
lines connected to the middle poles. (I actually only switched the
single serial line and not the grounds, as I am using a common signal
ground for all of the serial lines in the system, so I could have
gotten by with a SPDT switch - but then again, I'm an aeronautical
engineer by training, and not a EE...what do I know about electrons?
LOL...)
Paul Dye
--- In GRT_EFIS@yahoogroups.com, luckymacy@c... wrote:
I don't have my GPS yet (not sure if that actually would help) but
I want to buy a switch that will let me select between my Lowrance
GPS a
nd the GRT EFIS output to drive my Trio autopilot and I saw this
on someone's website. If I have the Lowrance driving the autopilot I
still want it to also feed the EFIS. Can't find it now.
What switch type am I looking to purchase and what's actually going
to be wired up?
Thanks,
Lucky
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| Subject: | Re: Autopilot istallation instructions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
You may have already figured this out, but they probably sent you hardware
for installing in the right wing while you have install documentation for
the left. That is what happened to me. Now after installing it in the
left, I think it is better to install in the right because of the pitot.
When I contacted Tru Trak/Tru Trac, they happily sent me the left wing
install bracket with no questions. That is good customer support after the
sale. They could of saved me a few hours however by sending the correct
documentation for the bracket they sent me in the first place however.
Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"
The sincerest satisfactions in life come in doing and not dodging duty;
in meeting and solving problems, in facing facts;
in flying a virgin plane never flown before.
- Richard L. Evans & Larry R Helming
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Subject: RV-List: Autopilot istallation instructions
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
>
> Just received my servos from TruTrak and included is all the hardware and
installation instruction manual with some excellent pictures and as has been
mentioned, the drawings for a RV 7 installation in the left hand wing.
>
> A couple of questions come to mind, the WD421 L is not the same as the one
shown in the 7 drawing. The difference being their is a difference in the
divergence of the two arms, looks like around 4-5 degrees and also the arms
look like they are about 1/4 inch longer.
>
> The other is all the info pertains to a left hand installation. I realize
that the right hand installation is probably a mirror image of the left, did
I miss something when I ordered them. What would be the advantage of a right
hand installation?
>
> Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay, B.C.
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
I am very satisfied with the M-mag and the P-mag I have
installed on my RV4. I don't think you can go wrong with
their product or the company. They have made several changes
since mine that make installation even easier.
Stewart
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| Subject: | Re: 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: DWENSING@aol.com
In a message dated 12/12/04 11:09:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rv6_flyer@hotmail.com writes:
> If YOU cannot prove that all ADs are complied with, that the engine and
> prop
> meets the TCDS, the DAR should give you 40 hours even if you have the data
> plate and prop. One thing that causes many engines in homebuilts to not
> meet the TCDS is the removal of a mag and installation on an EXPERIMENTAL
> ignition system.
> Gary A. Sobek
My mags and installation are not Experimental. The FAA inspector (not a DAR)
did not even ask me about AD's etc. He had the paper work all completed when
he arrived!
Dale Ensing
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Insurance: USAA |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <jhelms@nationair.com>
USAA is a broker just like NationAir, Falcon, and anyone else whom you'd
talk to about aviation insurance (except AVEMCO the direct writer).
JT (former Army officer and USAA member)
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucky" <luckymacy@comcast.net>
<vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Insurance: USAA
> --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
>
> Just an FYI for USAA insurance members (ie, qualified current &
ex-military members). I was on their web site this morning and saw they do
provide Aviation service. Their minute blurb is copied below. They probably
don't do the underwriting but it's at least worth looking into if you
haven't already. If their airplane insurance is anything like their car
insurance it probably can't be beat now that Phoenix is out. Since just
about every military officer is a usaa member, they surely have dealt with a
LOT of pilots and pilot questions/demands. I'll call Monday myself and let
you know what I find out.
>
> If anyone's already insured by them on the list, would you mind sharing
what you know?
> Thanks,
> Lucky
>
> USA Toll-Free 1-800-343-1547
> Monday - Friday, 7:30 a.m. - 6 p.m. CT
>
>
> Aviation Insurance
>
>
> The Sky's the Limit
> >From coverages for hull damage and liability to medical payments, the
USAA General Agency can provide competitive quotes, personalized attention,
and a highly trained staff of professionals. We understand your needs as a
pilot. Contact Us.
>
> Before purchasing aviation insurance, it is important to look at some of
the contract coverages that are not always so obvious. Besides comparing
hull and liability coverage and premium, these are some questions to ask
when you shop for coverage:
> Can other pilots fly my aircraft? If so, what are the requirements?
> How much expense reimbursement will the policy allow for other pilots
flying the aircraft?
> Does the policy provide coverage for the use of a non-owned aircraft?
> Does this company provide legal representation if I'm sued?
> What rating has A.M. Best assigned to this insurance company?
> Is there premises liability coverage for the hangar or tie-down space?
>
> Just an FYI for USAA insurance members (ie, qualified current ex-military
members). I was on their web site this morning and saw they do
provideAviation service. Their minute blurb is copied below. They probably
don't do the underwriting but it's at least worth looking into if you
haven't already. If their airplane insurance is anything like their car
insurance it probably can't be beat now that Phoenix is out. Since just
about every military officer is a usaa member, they surely have dealt with a
LOT of pilots and pilot questions/demands. I'll call Monday myself and let
you know what I find out.
>
> If anyone's already insured by them on the list, would you mind sharing
what you know?
> Thanks,
> Lucky
>
>
> <NOBR>USA</NOBR>
>
> <NOBR>Toll-Free</NOBR>
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> 1-800-343-1547
> <NOBR>Monday - Friday, 7:30 a.m. - 6 p.m. CT</NOBR>
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> The Sky's the LimitFrom coverages for hull damage and liability to medical
payments, the USAA General Agency can provide competitive quotes,
personalized attention, and a highly trained staff of professionals. We
understand your needs as a pilot. Contact Us.
>
> Before purchasing aviation insurance, it is important to look at some of
the contract coverages that are not always so obvious. Besides comparing
hull and liability coverage and premium, these are some questions to ask
when you shop for coverage:
>
>
> <IMG height=1 alt="" src="https://ww4.usaa.com/media/g_blank.gif" width=1>
>
> Can other pilots fly my aircraft? If so, what are the requirements?
> How much expense reimbursement will the policy allow for other pilots
flying the aircraft?
> Does the policy provide coverage for the use of a non-owned aircraft?
> Does this company provide legal representation if I'm sued?
> What rating has A.M. Best assigned to this insurance company?
> Is there premises liability coverage for the hangar or tie-down space?
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Tom,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>Subject: RV-List: N174TY Flies!
>Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:04:10 -0800
>
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| Subject: | Auto Pilot choices |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I want to put at least a wing leveler, (Im recent Rv6a driver) as the plane
has a mind of its own and wanders off with the least bit of distraction. I
have ben told that Tru Track is popular, but the builder of this plane was
considering a Trio EZ Pilot. the brochure looks tempting. It of course is a
single servo, but seems to have above average performance shown in the
brochure. Anyone have one, or have experience with it? charlie heathco
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| Subject: | Re: 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
Steve, you better check with Hartzell, I was told this fall by one of
their engineers that the blended airfoil prop is not approved on the
angle-valve engines for vibration/stress reasons.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
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<nyman@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> I have installed a Superior XP I0-360-M1B6 built by Bart at Aero Sport Power
with the new Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The DAR I plan to use for the inspection
has indicated that I will have to do a 40 hour phase one because the engine
is technically exprerimental. Has anyone been able to get a 25 hour phase
one with this or a similar combination? If so, some documentation I could
use to show my DAR would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Steve
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| Subject: | 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
The -M1B is the parallel valve with forward facing injector.
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>
> Steve, you better check with Hartzell, I was told this fall
> by one of their engineers that the blended airfoil prop is
> not approved on the angle-valve engines for vibration/stress reasons.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying F1 under const.
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:44:37 -0500, nyman@bellsouth.net
> <nyman@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > I have installed a Superior XP I0-360-M1B6 built by Bart at
> Aero Sport Power with the new Hartzell blended airfoil prop.
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| Subject: | Oil Cooler Location |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Mckenna" <mmckenna@bellsouth.net>
I believe the Oil cooler mounted on the rear baffle is met with high
pressure air not high velocity air. This do to the effect of the cowl plenum
acting just like the carb air box you described. The cowl plenum has already
converted the high velocity air, from the small cowl inlets, to high
pressure air on top of the cylinders and at the OC on the rear baffle. This
in theory is why the #3 or #4 cylinder should not be starved of cooling air
flow as well.
Mike Mckenna
260 hrs on baffle mount OC, no cracks so far.
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Subject: RV-List: Oil Cooler Location
Internal airflow drag and details are important and ignored. The internal
airflow in the typical oil cooler installation has sharp corners, abrupt
transitions and uses convoluted scat tube for ducts. Also a huge rectangular
cutout near the #4 cylinder that is often used for cooler air is poor, from
both a cylinder cooling standpoint and aerodynamics (cooling drag). You are
taking air away from an already hot #4 or #3 cylinder. You don't need 26 sq
inches for oil cooler air, you need pressure. Making a big rectangular
cutout is not the key. For example look at Van's carb air box, it uses a
small inlet area, say 6.5 sq inches to supply Carb intake air. It takes the
high velocity air and converts it to pressure, by smoothly transitioning to
a larger area. (filter is approx 45 in sq). The oil cooler should be similar
in concept, of course without the filter. So a 2.5-3 inch diameter area will
be enough, but you can't just go from a circle to a rectangle with out a
diffuser of som
e kind
with out losing efficiency.
Many use a very large oil cooler cutout in the baffle, matching the 26 inch
sq area/dimension as the OC. This also makes the baffle weak. I am not sure
what the actual effective area of the cooler is, but some cutouts are in the
baffles I have seen are 1/2 to 2/3rds the total area of the engine cowl
inlets. It works but is draggy and you risk hot spots and valve problems on
you adjacent cylinder you are taking air from. You are trying to convert air
velocity into pressure. OC efficiency is a function of airflow mass across
the cooler, which is a function of the delta pressure across it. The
air-inlet for the OC air in the back of the baffle should have a smooth
large radius, like the inlets in the cowl. Also use a duct with a smooth ID
to connect the oil cooler. Wire reinforced SCAT is a poor choice, and is
more critical for a longer duct.
The adapter/transition on the oil cooler, where the duct attaches is
important. It should be like a funnel without abrupt angles. The square
shallow "box" bolted directly to the Oil Cooler, like Vans sells, is a poor
transition. This is very turbulent. If you supply extra air you can get
enough cooling but at the expense of drag. Van's engine cowl inlets are
larger than needed for a typical 150-180 hp RV, so you have extra air. Again
it works but is not as efficient as it can be. Key is to have good cooling
with the minimum air. Suggest making you own oil cooler transition out of
fiberglass, like other builders. An advantage of NOT supporting the OC
directly by the baffle is you have room to make the transition from baffle
to oil cooler. The oil cooler bolted directly to the baffle is abrupt. Even
if you do bolt directly to the rear of the baffle, consider using some
transition air box, use the min inlet area not max (experiment), and radius
the inlet. Keep Cool G.
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| Subject: | Re: 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
My bad, I had never heard of that particular dash number so I assumed
it was a slant valve.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:21:19 -0600, Greg Young <gyoung@cs-sol.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
>
> The -M1B is the parallel valve with forward facing injector.
>
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
> >
> > Steve, you better check with Hartzell, I was told this fall
> > by one of their engineers that the blended airfoil prop is
> > not approved on the angle-valve engines for vibration/stress reasons.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob Japundza
> > RV-6 flying F1 under const.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:44:37 -0500, nyman@bellsouth.net
> > <nyman@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: <nyman@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > I have installed a Superior XP I0-360-M1B6 built by Bart at
> > Aero Sport Power with the new Hartzell blended airfoil prop.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Pilot choices |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
In response to which auto pilot ( Tru Trak vs. Trio ) is better -- you
should give some consideration to longer term support. I am saying,
consider this risk also and not just the function and price. That is not a
show stopper considering the big picture as far as $$ is concerned. As I
look at it, base the decision on what works well, is proven, is
supported/guaranteed by a strong company, and can be upgraded if that is
desirable at a later time.
Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"
>
> I want to put at least a wing leveler, (Im recent Rv6a driver) as the
plane
> has a mind of its own and wanders off with the least bit of distraction. I
> have ben told that Tru Track is popular, but the builder of this plane was
> considering a Trio EZ Pilot. the brochure looks tempting. It of course is
a
> single servo, but seems to have above average performance shown in the
> brochure. Anyone have one, or have experience with it? charlie heathco
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| Subject: | Re: Autopilot istallation instructions |
--> RV-List message posted by: HAL KEMPTHORNE <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net>
Eustace Bowhay <ebowhay@jetstream.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay"
Just received my servos from TruTrak and included is all the hardware..........<snip>.....
for a RV 7 installation in the left hand wing.
<snip>
. What would be the advantage of a right hand installation?
I blindly installed my servo in the left wing even further making the airplane
heavy on the left when flown solo. It isn't much but mine is out at the wing
tip. Maybe I should install an ADF on the right side :-)
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Pilot choices |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Charles Heathco wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
>
> I want to put at least a wing leveler, (Im recent Rv6a driver) as the plane
> has a mind of its own and wanders off with the least bit of distraction. I
> have ben told that Tru Track is popular, but the builder of this plane was
> considering a Trio EZ Pilot. the brochure looks tempting. It of course is a
> single servo, but seems to have above average performance shown in the
> brochure. Anyone have one, or have experience with it? charlie heathco
Yes, 120 hours with the EZ-Pilot and the fine bunch of guys at Trio
Avionics who enthusiastically support it:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/EZ_Pilot.htm
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Pilot choices |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi Charlie,
I've got a Trio, but I'm not flying yet. There are a few
features that the Trio has that really sold me, like the
180 turnaround capability if you get into IMC.
The support from the company is excellent. I had a couple
of install questions, and they got right back to me. Also,
they came out with newer hardware, and upgraded my unit
for a very nominal fee.
Sam has a lot of stuff on the EZ Pilot, and he has been
flying with it:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/EZ_Pilot.htm
Mickey
>I want to put at least a wing leveler, (Im recent Rv6a driver) as the plane
>has a mind of its own and wanders off with the least bit of distraction. I
>have ben told that Tru Track is popular, but the builder of this plane was
>considering a Trio EZ Pilot. the brochure looks tempting. It of course is a
>single servo, but seems to have above average performance shown in the
>brochure. Anyone have one, or have experience with it? charlie heathco
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage
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I have a brand-new conical RV-3 mount from Van's that has been epoxy primed.
Please let me know if interested.
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| Subject: | Re: 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
I was told a couple of weeks ago it's in test but not approved yet for the angle
valve engines. So is a new blended airfoil prop for that engine. check the
archives. I was told they should have some definitive info by late January and
their goal is to have something for Van's and others to market for SnF 05.
Lucky
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J
>
> Steve, you better check with Hartzell, I was told this fall by one of
> their engineers that the blended airfoil prop is not approved on the
> angle-valve engines for vibration/stress reasons.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying F1 under const.
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:44:37 -0500, nyman@bellsouth.net
> wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by:
> >
> > I have installed a Superior XP I0-360-M1B6 built by Bart at Aero Sport Power
> with the new Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The DAR I plan to use for the
> inspection has indicated that I will have to do a 40 hour phase one because the
> engine is technically exprerimental. Has anyone been able to get a 25 hour
> phase one with this or a similar combination? If so, some documentation I could
> use to show my DAR would be helpful.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Steve
> > MEM
> > 7QB
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Iwas told a couple of weeks ago it's in test but not approved yet for the angle
valve engines. So is a new blended airfoil prop for that engine. check the archives.
I was told they should have some definitive info by late January and their
goal is to have something for Van's and others to market for SnF 05.
Lucky
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: Bob J <ROCKETBOB@GMAIL.COM>
Steve, you better check with Hartzell, I was told this fall by one of
their engineers that the blended airfoil prop is not approved on the
angle-valve engines for vibration/stress reasons.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:44:37 -0500, nyman@bellsouth.net
<NYMAN@BELLSOUTH.NET>wrote:
-- RV-List message posted by: <NYMAN@BELLSOUTH.NET>
I have installed a Superior XP I0-360-M1B6 built by Bart at Aero Sport Power
with the new Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The DAR I plan to use for the
inspection has indicated that I will have to do a 40 hour phase one because the
engine is technically exprerimental. Has anyone been able to get a 25 hour
phase one with this or a similar combination? If so, some documentation I could
use to show my DAR would be helpful.
Thanks
Steve
MEM
7QB
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| Subject: | 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Thanks to everyone that replied on and off list. I really don't mind having to
fly a full 40 hours. I just wanted to get the airplane home. Call me a wuss,
but my impatience to be finished and flying has made me get builder assistance
to complete the construction in COS. Do you suppose the DAR would give me
a test area from CO to TN? ;-) If anyone is contemplating builder assistance,
I can highly recommend Loyd Remus and Bill Von Dane in Colorado Springs. Also,
if you are thinking about having an instrument panel built, I have had a very
good experience with Aerotronics in Billings, MT. I'll be the first to admit
that I went overboard on the instrument panel, but it sure is pretty. I was
able to completely install and wire the plug and play panel in 5 days. I have
become pretty good at soldering thanks to some tips from Bill and a master
at crimping. Amazingly enough, when we hit the master switch everything worked
and no smoke.
Looking forward to first flight next month.
Steve
MEM
7QB
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| Subject: | 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Ask the DAR if the local FSDO will accept a short period of hours, say
10, at the local airport, then approve a ferry permit to allow you to
take the airplane home.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nyman@bellsouth.net
Subject: RV-List: 25 hour Phase One
--> RV-List message posted by: <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Thanks to everyone that replied on and off list. I really don't mind
having to fly a full 40 hours. I just wanted to get the airplane home.
Call me a wuss, but my impatience to be finished and flying has made me
get builder assistance to complete the construction in COS. Do you
suppose the DAR would give me a test area from CO to TN? ;-) If anyone
is contemplating builder assistance, I can highly recommend Loyd Remus
and Bill Von Dane in Colorado Springs. Also, if you are thinking about
having an instrument panel built, I have had a very good experience
with Aerotronics in Billings, MT. I'll be the first to admit that I
went overboard on the instrument panel, but it sure is pretty. I was
able to completely install and wire the plug and play panel in 5 days.
I have become pretty good at soldering thanks to some tips from Bill and
a master at crimping. Amazingly enough, when we hit the master switch
everything worked and no smoke.
Looking forward to first flight next month.
Steve
MEM
7QB
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin <rlundin46@yahoo.com>
I guess I missed it. What was your Crossflow
experience?
Rick
--- "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie"
> <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I will hopefully be buying an ECI IO360 if I recover
> from the Crossflow experience. I am planning ahead
> and am seriously considering the Emag setup as
> opposed to conventional mags or electronic ignition.
> www.emagair.com
>
> Is anyone out there using these yet? It almost
> appears to be too good to be true. This is nearly a
> wash cost wise with conventional mags with not BS
> factor involved in installation.
>
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZ
>
>
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> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Pilot choices |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net>
Works great for me and follows the GPS where ever I want to go.
Ollie---6A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: Auto Pilot choices
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
>
> I want to put at least a wing leveler, (Im recent Rv6a driver) as the
> plane
> has a mind of its own and wanders off with the least bit of distraction. I
> have ben told that Tru Track is popular, but the builder of this plane was
> considering a Trio EZ Pilot. the brochure looks tempting. It of course is
> a
> single servo, but seems to have above average performance shown in the
> brochure. Anyone have one, or have experience with it? charlie heathco
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Guys,
I need an elegant way to latch my flopper canopy to the roll bar so I
can taxi with the flopper about 1/2 way open. Anyone have pictures of
a working latch? Or can you describe a good technique other than
holding it with my third hand... which I don't have.
BTW, I don't mean a few inches open for ventilation. I've got that
covered. I mean open such that I can stick my head out and look down
either side of the plane.
Ground visibility over the nose of this thing is not the best. Yeah,
s-turns, I know all about them, save your breath. I want to have the
OPTION of taxiing with the lid open so I don't run over a baby stroller
at Oshkosh or taxi into a hole on some grass strip.
Vince
F-1H Rocket, N540VF
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
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| Subject: | Re: flopper latch |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Vince,
What you need is a F-1HA.
Do not archive.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 12/13/04 2:38:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
VFrazier@usi.edu writes:
> Ground visibility over the nose of this thing is not the best. Yeah,
> s-turns, I know all about them, save your breath. I want to have the
> OPTION of taxiing with the lid open so I don't run over a baby stroller
> at Oshkosh or taxi into a hole on some grass strip.
>
> Vince
> F-1H Rocket, N540VF
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| Subject: | Autopilot istallation instructions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <kathleen@rv7.us>
I went for the right wing with the TruTrak, but I did have a hesitation,
since my husband will fly from the right seat and was mildly concerned about
"right-wing-heavy". Then I remembered it is MY airplane, so I set it up to
work for me. That helped decide to stick with the right wing.
Here is a pic or 2 of the installation in case you want to look at it.
http://rv7.us/daily041009%20w.htm
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
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| Subject: | Wheel pant brackets cracking? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" <matthew@n523rv.com>
Have you flyers out there had trouble with the U-810/808 wheel pant brackets
cracking?? Attaway Air sells steel versions of these parts and I'm curious
if there really is a problem with these cracking after awhile. If so, I
think I'll just go ahead and order a set.
Matthew Brandes,
Van's RV-9A (Finish Kit)
EAA Chapter 868/91/1329
www.n523rv.com <http://www.n523rv.com/>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rolf Unternaehrer" <rolf@microsource-inc.com>
Hello Members,
My 2 1/4" Prop Extension from Vans does not fit. The Prop Flange "nubs" are
nominally 3/4"
and they measured about half a tenth under: average of the 4 (wich protrude
thru the flywheel)came out to 0.7496.
But the very nice looking, beautifully anodized Prop Extenuation has holes
that are too small.
They are difficult to measure accurately with only a set of calipers, but as
best as I can tell,
they are 2 1/2 thou too small. That seams like too much of an interference
fit.
What say you all?
Rolf (trying to hang prop)
PS The archives have nearly nothing on this subject; just a question of how
to get a stuck extension off!
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| Subject: | Autopilot installation instructions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Just talked to Jim at Tru Trak regarding the difference between the 7 &10 wing
weldments and he advised they are going to make a drawing specifically for the
10, trying to get it out next week.
Eustace Bowhay
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Insurance: USAA |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
I called and talked to Shannon today at USAA.
I got $50K builders insurance which includes anything up to starting the engine.
I'll haggle that or change it when the time comes but it does include the move
as long as I move it and not professionals, strangely enough, and at the
airport while hangaring it. I am paying $500. I think $60K was $541. Liability
was like another $250. Didn't seem worth it so I didn't get it though it
might be required when moved to the airport per airport rules..
There's a $200 deductable and it's through USAIG (NOT AIG).
Then I threw out a hypothetical worst case number for full flight RV 8 tailwheel
coverage thinking it can only get better from here: I forgot my notes at work
but I think that asked if I had 200 hours overall, 40 hours tailwheel, and
5 hours dual in an RV with a CFI what would it would cost. About $2000 through
AIG (not USAIG) with the 5% AOPA discount was the answer. That was for $1M each
person liability, $70K to $80K Hull, and some other stuff I can't remember.
But it's better than the $2700 or whatever figure I thought I read on this
list.
Lucky
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms"
>
> USAA is a broker just like NationAir, Falcon, and anyone else whom you'd
> talk to about aviation insurance (except AVEMCO the direct writer).
>
> JT (former Army officer and USAA member)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lucky"
> To: "RV-List" ; "RV yahoo"
>
> Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Insurance: USAA
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
> >
> > Just an FYI for USAA insurance members (ie, qualified current &
> ex-military members). I was on their web site this morning and saw they do
> provide Aviation service. Their minute blurb is copied below. They probably
> don't do the underwriting but it's at least worth looking into if you
> haven't already. If their airplane insurance is anything like their car
> insurance it probably can't be beat now that Phoenix is out. Since just
> about every military officer is a usaa member, they surely have dealt with a
> LOT of pilots and pilot questions/demands. I'll call Monday myself and let
> you know what I find out.
> >
> > If anyone's already insured by them on the list, would you mind sharing
> what you know?
> > Thanks,
> > Lucky
> >
> > USA Toll-Free 1-800-343-1547
> > Monday - Friday, 7:30 a.m. - 6 p.m. CT
> >
> >
> > Aviation Insurance
> >
> >
> > The Sky's the Limit
> > >From coverages for hull damage and liability to medical payments, the
> USAA General Agency can provide competitive quotes, personalized attention,
> and a highly trained staff of professionals. We understand your needs as a
> pilot. Contact Us.
> >
> > Before purchasing aviation insurance, it is important to look at some of
> the contract coverages that are not always so obvious. Besides comparing
> hull and liability coverage and premium, these are some questions to ask
> when you shop for coverage:
> > Can other pilots fly my aircraft? If so, what are the requirements?
> > How much expense reimbursement will the policy allow for other pilots
> flying the aircraft?
> > Does the policy provide coverage for the use of a non-owned aircraft?
> > Does this company provide legal representation if I'm sued?
> > What rating has A.M. Best assigned to this insurance company?
> > Is there premises liability coverage for the hangar or tie-down space?
> >
> > Just an FYI for USAA insurance members (ie, qualified current ex-military
> members). I was on their web site this morning and saw they do
> provideAviation service. Their minute blurb is copied below. They probably
> don't do the underwriting but it's at least worth looking into if you
> haven't already. If their airplane insurance is anything like their car
> insurance it probably can't be beat now that Phoenix is out. Since just
> about every military officer is a usaa member, they surely have dealt with a
> LOT of pilots and pilot questions/demands. I'll call Monday myself and let
> you know what I find out.
> >
> > If anyone's already insured by them on the list, would you mind sharing
> what you know?
> > Thanks,
> > Lucky
> >
> >
> > USA
> >
> > Toll-Free
> >
> > 1-800-343-1547
> > Monday - Friday, 7:30 a.m. - 6 p.m. CT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> method=post>
> >
Aviation Insurance
> >
> > The Sky's the LimitFrom coverages for hull damage and liability to medical
> payments, the USAA General Agency can provide competitive quotes,
> personalized attention, and a highly trained staff of professionals. We
> understand your needs as a pilot. Contact Us.
> >
> > Before purchasing aviation insurance, it is important to look at some of
> the contract coverages that are not always so obvious. Besides comparing
> hull and liability coverage and premium, these are some questions to ask
> when you shop for coverage:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can other pilots fly my aircraft? If so, what are the requirements?
> > How much expense reimbursement will the policy allow for other pilots
> flying the aircraft?
> > Does the policy provide coverage for the use of a non-owned aircraft?
> > Does this company provide legal representation if I'm sued?
> > What rating has A.M. Best assigned to this insurance company?
> > Is there premises liability coverage for the hangar or tie-down space?
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
I called and talked to Shannon today at USAA.
I got $50K builders insurance which includes anything up to starting the engine.
I'll haggle that or change it when the time comes but it does include the move
as long as I move it and not professionals, strangely enough, and at the airport
whilehangaring it. I am paying $500. I think $60K was $541. Liability was
like another $250. Didn't seem worth it so I didn't get it though it might be
required when moved to the airport per airport rules..
There's a $200 deductable and it's through USAIG (NOT AIG).
Then I threw out ahypothetical worst case number for full flight RV 8 tailwheel
coverage thinking it can only get better from here: I forgot my notes at work
but I think that askedif I had 200 hours overall, 40 hours tailwheel, and 5 hours
dual in an RV with a CFIwhat would it would cost. About $2000 through AIG
(not USAIG) with the 5% AOPA discount was the answer. That was for $1M each person
liability, $70K to $80K Hull, and some other stuff I can't remember. But
it's better than the $2700 or whatever figure I thought I read on this list.
Lucky
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: "JT Helms" <JHELMS@NATIONAIR.COM>
USAA is a broker just like NationAir, Falcon, and anyone else whom you'd
talk to about aviation insurance (except AVEMCO the direct writer).
JT (former Army officer and USAA member)
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucky" <LUCKYMACY@COMCAST.NET>
To: "RV-List" <RV-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>; "RV yahoo"
<VANSAIRFORCE@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>
Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Insurance: USAA
-- RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
Just an FYI for USAA insurance members (ie, qualified current
ex-military members). I was on their web site this morning and saw they do
provide Aviation service. The
ir minute blurb is copied below. They probably
don't do the underwriting but it's at least worth looking into if you
haven't already. If their airplane insurance is anything like their car
insurance it probably can't be beat now that Phoenix is out. Since just
about every military officer is a usaa member, they surely have dealt with a
LOT of pilots and pilot questions/demands. I'll call Monday myself and let
you know what I find out.
If anyone's already insured by them on the list, would you mind sharing
what you know?
Thanks,
Lucky
USA Toll-Free 1-800-343-1547
Monday - Friday, 7:30 a.m. - 6 p.m. CT
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The Sky's the Limit
From coverages for hull damage and liability to medical payments, the
USAA General Agency can provide competitive quotes, personalized attention,
and a highly trained staff of professionals. We understand your needs as a
pilot. Contact Us.
Before purchasing aviation insurance, it is important to look at some of
the contract coverages that are not always so obvious. Besides comparing
hull and liability coverage and premium, these are some questions to ask
when you shop for coverage:
Can other pilots fly my aircraft? If so, what are the requirements?
How much expense reimbursement will the policy allow for other pilots
flying the aircraft?
Does the policy provide coverage for the use of a non-owned aircraft?
Does this company provide legal representation if I'm sued?
What rating has A.M. Best assigned to this insurance company?
Is there premises liability coverage for the hangar or
tie-down space?
Just an FYI for USAA insurance members (ie, qualified current ex-military
members). I was on their web site this morning and saw they do
provideAviation service. Their minute blurb is copied below. They probably
don't do the underwriting but it's at least worth looking into if you
haven't already. If their airplane insurance is anything like their car
insurance it probably can't be beat now that Phoenix is out. Since just
about every military officer is a usaa member, they surely have dealt with a
LOT of pilots and pilot questions/demands. I'll call Monday myself and let
you know what I find out.
If anyone's already insured by them on the list, would you mind sharing
what you know?
Thanks,
Lucky
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| Subject: | Finding polished airplanes in SAR |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
Reminds me of a Sky King episode where kidnapped Penny used a mirror in an
upstairs window to get Sky's attention in the Songbird. You young
whippersnappers can just delete this post. You have to be over 50 to
remember Sky King!
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Oke [mailto:wjoke@shaw.ca]
Subject: Re: RV-List: Finding polished airplanes in SAR
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
IMHO, the single best "crash kit" item - assuming we are talking about
things that will help someone spot you from the air - would be a mirror.
Shiny surfaces are highly visible from the air and, if they flash at you,
are real attention getters. One of the aimable "rescue mirrors" so-called
because you look through a partially silvered area and direct the reflection
in a particular direction would be ideal.
A blank or otherwise compact disc is a reasonable (and very cheap)
substitute.
OK, a mirror will not help at night or in overcast conditions but that's
when an ELT comes in.
Jim Oke
RV-3, RV-6A
Wpg., MB
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Well,
as I have stated before, I'm concerned that they (E-Mag, as well as the
other two systems) are not providing a CHT input to the varible timing
equation. This is far more important than is MAP since MAP is not really a
critical factor in a non-supercharged engine and can be roughly estimated,
and in fact is by their non-MAP system. On the other hand CHT (the most
critical limiting factor in a tightly cowled aircooled engine), is most
easily and effectively controlled by timing, and in fact the only certified
FADEC units, TCM Aerosance and Unison LASAR, in fact do use CHT for just
that purpose.
I have suggested this to them and they have very politely blown me off. If
they were to design such a mod I would buy the entire package in a second
though.
In my humble experience the reason we have certification standards is
because they reflect a reliability factor that I choose to not ignore if at
all possible. This is one case where the engineers who have gotten stuff
certified, did so by determining the most critical reliability factors and
then integrated those elements into the product design. To ignore that seems
silly when it is just so easy to make a small product change to follow those
who have obviously done a lot more work to bring their certified product to
market.
W
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| Subject: | 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard McCraw" <rmccraw@wcvt.com>
Steve, if you elect to get a ferry permit, you may need to check with your
insurance company. I remember reading "somewhere" (always the most
dangerous source) that operations under ferry permits are not always
covered. Source may have been Aviation Consumer.
...
So, before clicking Send, my conscience got the better of me and I checked a
little further. The following link
(http://www.americanschoolofaviation.com/Aircraft_and_Pilots_Insurance.htm)
contains someone's policy; the language excludes ferry flights without prior
approval.
Here's another supporting source:
http://www.suttonjames.com/articles/myths.html. Click and search for
"ferry."
If I could only find my own policy, I'd check it, too. The perils of
moving...
Rick
A-36, RV-7 emp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Gray
Subject: RE: RV-List: 25 hour Phase One
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Ask the DAR if the local FSDO will accept a short period of hours, say
10, at the local airport, then approve a ferry permit to allow you to
take the airplane home.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nyman@bellsouth.net
Subject: RV-List: 25 hour Phase One
--> RV-List message posted by: <nyman@bellsouth.net>
Thanks to everyone that replied on and off list. I really don't mind
having to fly a full 40 hours. I just wanted to get the airplane home.
Call me a wuss, but my impatience to be finished and flying has made me
get builder assistance to complete the construction in COS. Do you
suppose the DAR would give me a test area from CO to TN? ;-) If anyone
is contemplating builder assistance, I can highly recommend Loyd Remus
and Bill Von Dane in Colorado Springs. Also, if you are thinking about
having an instrument panel built, I have had a very good experience
with Aerotronics in Billings, MT. I'll be the first to admit that I
went overboard on the instrument panel, but it sure is pretty. I was
able to completely install and wire the plug and play panel in 5 days.
I have become pretty good at soldering thanks to some tips from Bill and
a master at crimping. Amazingly enough, when we hit the master switch
everything worked and no smoke.
Looking forward to first flight next month.
Steve
MEM
7QB
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| Subject: | Re: Please, oh PLEASE trim your messages |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting Andrew Douglas <adouglas@optonline.net>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Andrew Douglas <adouglas@optonline.net>
>
> <rant>
> Okay, I know that "list police" messages are totally OT and can be annoying,
> but what I got this morning is just ridiculous. Message 1 in last night's
> digest was SO LONG from not being trimmed that I just had to find out how
> bad it was. I copied and pasted that one message into Word and came up with
> the following:
>
> Pages: 16 (!) Note: this is at 12-point type
> Words: 2,534
> Characters (no spaces): 11,396
> Characters (with spaces): 14,590
>
> SIXTEEN PAGES of text for ONE email?
>
> Here's the kicker: The actual message sitting on top of all of this quoted,
> re-quoted and re-re-quoted text was....
>
> 72 words long.
>
> And did not have a "do not archive" in it.
>
> With all due respect, this is way over the top. Please edit your replies.
> </rant>
>
> We now return you to your RV discussion, which is already in progress.
>
> PS: If you choose to reply to this, please DON'T QUOTE IT and DON'T ARCHIVE
> IT.
>
> Andrew Douglas
> Do not archive
>
> Andrew: all you have to do is go to the next as I do. You do not have to
read anythinbg you do not like right?
This is a democracy, let's keep it that way.
People waste so much time, forcing their opinion on some one else,
they could use their time in a much productive way.
Bert
DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Extension |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
I think that you'll find that one of the studs that the prop was supposed to
sit on-if the extension was not needed-is slightly larger than the others.
There should be one hole in the extension that will fit it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolf Unternaehrer" <rolf@microsource-inc.com>
Subject: RV-List: Prop Extension
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Rolf Unternaehrer"
> <rolf@microsource-inc.com>
>
> Hello Members,
>
> My 2 1/4" Prop Extension from Vans does not fit. The Prop Flange "nubs"
> are
> nominally 3/4"
> and they measured about half a tenth under: average of the 4 (wich
> protrude
> thru the flywheel)came out to 0.7496.
> But the very nice looking, beautifully anodized Prop Extenuation has holes
> that are too small.
> They are difficult to measure accurately with only a set of calipers, but
> as
> best as I can tell,
> they are 2 1/2 thou too small. That seams like too much of an interference
> fit.
>
> What say you all?
>
> Rolf (trying to hang prop)
>
> PS The archives have nearly nothing on this subject; just a question of
> how
> to get a stuck extension off!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
I seem to recall that Van's once had to do a slightly different from
expected flight area. They were within hours of the 8 (???) having its time
flown off and OSH was approaching fast. Seems (IIRC) that they got a NARROW,
well-defined path from Oregon to Wisconsin. The time may have been finished
by the time they got to OSH.
Another friend was also looking into a similar approach on the East Coast.
So there seems to be some precedence.
On the other hand, yet another friend flew the 40 hours off for his
experimental in about 1 week!!! He had great weather, loved flying it, is a
"professional" flyer (military and commercial) and wanted to "get it done".
So each day he managed to get in 5-6 hours of flying and if anything needed
to be modified he and his partner did it in the evenings.
So there are possibilities.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard McCraw
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:04 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: 25 hour Phase One
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard McCraw" <rmccraw@wcvt.com>
>
> Steve, if you elect to get a ferry permit, you may need to check with your
> insurance company. I remember reading "somewhere" (always the most
> dangerous source) that operations under ferry permits are not always
> covered. Source may have been Aviation Consumer.
>
> ...
>
> So, before clicking Send, my conscience got the better of me and
> I checked a
> little further. The following link
> (http://www.americanschoolofaviation.com/Aircraft_and_Pilots_Insur
> ance.htm)
> contains someone's policy; the language excludes ferry flights
> without prior
> approval.
>
> Here's another supporting source:
> http://www.suttonjames.com/articles/myths.html. Click and search for
> "ferry."
>
> If I could only find my own policy, I'd check it, too. The perils of
> moving...
>
> Rick
> A-36, RV-7 emp
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Gray
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: 25 hour Phase One
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
>
> Ask the DAR if the local FSDO will accept a short period of hours, say
> 10, at the local airport, then approve a ferry permit to allow you to
> take the airplane home.
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> nyman@bellsouth.net
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: 25 hour Phase One
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <nyman@bellsouth.net>
>
> Thanks to everyone that replied on and off list. I really don't mind
> having to fly a full 40 hours. I just wanted to get the airplane home.
> Call me a wuss, but my impatience to be finished and flying has made me
> get builder assistance to complete the construction in COS. Do you
> suppose the DAR would give me a test area from CO to TN? ;-) If anyone
> is contemplating builder assistance, I can highly recommend Loyd Remus
> and Bill Von Dane in Colorado Springs. Also, if you are thinking about
> having an instrument panel built, I have had a very good experience
> with Aerotronics in Billings, MT. I'll be the first to admit that I
> went overboard on the instrument panel, but it sure is pretty. I was
> able to completely install and wire the plug and play panel in 5 days.
> I have become pretty good at soldering thanks to some tips from Bill and
> a master at crimping. Amazingly enough, when we hit the master switch
> everything worked and no smoke.
>
> Looking forward to first flight next month.
> Steve
> MEM
> 7QB
>
>
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| Subject: | Jeff Rose Ignition for sale-New |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Edward Cole" <edwardmcole@comcast.net>
Listers,
I have a new, still in the box Jeff Rose Ignition system for
Sale. Purchased from GBI a while back.
$700 . Please respond offline to edwardmcole@comcast.net
Ed Cole
RV6A N2169D Flying
RV6A N648RV Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Extension |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
I think that is only for one stud that goes into the ring gear. All of
the studs beyond the ring
gear should be the same dimensions
Jerry
Scott Jackson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
>
>I think that you'll find that one of the studs that the prop was supposed to
>sit on-if the extension was not needed-is slightly larger than the others.
>There should be one hole in the extension that will fit it.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rolf Unternaehrer" <rolf@microsource-inc.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Prop Extension
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Rolf Unternaehrer"
>><rolf@microsource-inc.com>
>>
>>Hello Members,
>>
>>My 2 1/4" Prop Extension from Vans does not fit. The Prop Flange "nubs"
>>are
>>nominally 3/4"
>>and they measured about half a tenth under: average of the 4 (wich
>>protrude
>>thru the flywheel)came out to 0.7496.
>>But the very nice looking, beautifully anodized Prop Extenuation has holes
>>that are too small.
>>They are difficult to measure accurately with only a set of calipers, but
>>as
>>best as I can tell,
>>they are 2 1/2 thou too small. That seams like too much of an interference
>>fit.
>>
>>What say you all?
>>
>>Rolf (trying to hang prop)
>>
>>PS The archives have nearly nothing on this subject; just a question of
>>how
>>to get a stuck extension off!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TRUNCATE AND DO NOT ARCHIVE |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bluecavu@aol.com
TRUNCATE AND DO NOT ARCHIVE
Amen Brother,
this has been bothering me for a *long* time -glad someone else felt the same
way. Trim those posts! Be courteous to Matt -and everyone else!
Scott
N4ZW
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| Subject: | Slow build switch to QB |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
All,
I could not get ahold of Vans today (kept getting that damn voicemail), but I thought
others might be able to help.
Due to a job change and move from Austin to Kansas City, I have no clear picture
on when I will again have a garage/workspace to resume building. Wings are
completely done, and fuselage is scheduled to be delivered 12/27. I have now
decided that I may "cheat" and go ahead and order the QB fuse (since I likely
won't be building for 6 months anyway). I know I need to send the center section
back...can anyone tell me exactly which parts need to go back and how best
to send them? I know the two gold center pieces...what about the smaller anodized
tabs or fuselage angle?
Thanks,
Scott
www.scottsrv7a.com
Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com
The most personalized portal on the Web!
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Location |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Reimer" <cgreimer@mts.net>
> Boy I hate to do fiberglass but believe I can come up with a funnel
> type design using metal. How large should the air inlet be... 3" ? Where
> is
> the best baffle location to tap for the air supply and not suffer cool air
> to the engine or undue drag?
What worked for me was to build a tapered transition out of .032 aluminum.
Then I cut up the Van's adaptor I had bought and riveted it onto the tapered
part for the final transition to the 3" duct. I am using a Positech (later
model) cooler mounted on the firewall with a 3" scat tube to the back baffle
above the #3 cylinder. Be aware of the need to get at the oil dipstick
(guess who had to move his scat tube). I also built a cockpit controlled
butterfly valve to shut off the airflow in winter and it works just as I
hoped. I fly in temperatures from -25F to +90F and can always keep my oil
temp in the 170-200 degree F range. I have flown from a frozen Canada to a
temperate New Mexico in a day so the cockpit adjustment really is useful.
As for fiberglass, that would work well too. I built a nice hot air
distribution manifold for my interior using the lost foam process.
Curt
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| Subject: | Re: Please, oh PLEASE trim your messages |
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Forcing??? Seems like he was asking people to just follow the usage
guidelines. And if Matt is running the list, where is the Democracy? Have
we had a vote I missed?
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <bertrv6@highstream.net>
>>
>> Andrew: all you have to do is go to the next as I do. You do not have
>> to
> read anythinbg you do not like right?
>
> This is a democracy, let's keep it that way.
>
> People waste so much time, forcing their opinion on some one else,
> they could use their time in a much productive way.
>
> Bert
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
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| Subject: | 25 hour Phase One |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
I had a similar deal with both my RV6's. My planes are based at an airport
that is nearly against the inner ring of the underneath the above
Minneapolis Class "B" airspace. The Feds gave me a "Corridor" from my
airport to my flyoff area which was located outside the Class B Airspace
Area entirely (so I could do that high altitude fun stuff)!
Anyway, just my experience.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of James E. Clark
Subject: RE: RV-List: 25 hour Phase One
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
I seem to recall that Van's once had to do a slightly different from
expected flight area. They were within hours of the 8 (???) having its time
flown off and OSH was approaching fast. Seems (IIRC) that they got a NARROW,
well-defined path from Oregon to Wisconsin. The time may have been finished
by the time they got to OSH.
Another friend was also looking into a similar approach on the East Coast.
So there seems to be some precedence.
On the other hand, yet another friend flew the 40 hours off for his
experimental in about 1 week!!! He had great weather, loved flying it, is a
"professional" flyer (military and commercial) and wanted to "get it done".
So each day he managed to get in 5-6 hours of flying and if anything needed
to be modified he and his partner did it in the evenings.
So there are possibilities.
James
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| Subject: | #103 Rocket ride |
--> RV-List message posted by: "FRED LAFORGE" <fred.laforge@verizon.net>
Thanks for the ride Tom, that was amazing. What an airplane. I`m gonna pound
a lot of rivets now.
Fred LaForge RV-4 0-360 CS EAA Tech Counselor
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Has anyone designed a home brew battery box for the PC680 or similar sized
batteries for the -9A or -7A that they would be willing to share? I thought
I would look into it before I went with Van's kit.
Thanks,
Pete
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--> RV-List message posted by: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
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From: "Wheeler North" <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Subject: RV-List: Tailwheel
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>> But that all said, does anyone know of a valid criteria by which to
> determine of a tail wheel is worn out?
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> W
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I don't have the answer to that, but I will say that after 1120 hrs. my
angle of attack while sitting on the ground is increasing! The biggest
problem is that with the original style tail gear, the threaded portion that
hangs down sure gets caught on things a lot easier. I got hung up this
weekend on one of those cables that are used for tie downs. It stopped me
real quick(was only going a couple of mph). I guess I'm carrier qualified!
So for me, it's probably time. I'll measure the tire diameter the next time
I'm at the hangar if you are interested.
Ivan Haecker -4 1120 hrs. S. Cen. TX
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