RV-List Digest Archive

Sun 12/26/04


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:19 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 (Ron Burden)
     2. 07:22 AM - Re: Teflon Hose (Jerry Calvert)
     3. 08:16 AM - RV Fly-in (james frierson)
     4. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 (Patrick Kelley)
     5. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 (J D Newsum)
     6. 09:35 AM - Re: RV Fly-in (Ollie Washburn)
     7. 09:38 AM - Re: ACS 2002 out of box experience (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
     8. 10:54 AM - Re: Price Increase - Can I sneek in? (Craig)
     9. 02:52 PM - RV6A max demonstrated X-wind (Charles Heathco)
    10. 05:34 PM - Re: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind (Sam Buchanan)
    11. 05:44 PM - Re: Liquid versus powdered Alodine or Iridite was Re: (Charlie Kuss)
    12. 06:14 PM - Re: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind (Ed Anderson)
    13. 06:17 PM - Re: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind (Vanremog@aol.com)
    14. 08:00 PM - special FWF nuts? (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
    15. 08:07 PM - Re: Ice formation in auto fuel in flight (Tim Lewis)
    16. 08:31 PM - Re: Ice formation in auto fuel in flight (linn walters)
    17. 08:55 PM - Re: Liquid versus powdered Alodine or Iridite was Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 (Patrick Kelley)
    18. 08:57 PM - Re: special FWF nuts? (RV6 Flyer)
    19. 11:28 PM - GPS (Bob Black)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:19:27 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Burden" <crb@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Burden" <crb@commspeed.net> Hi List, I am a new builder (RV7A empennage) in Cottonwood, AZ. I have been unable to locate a reasonable source for powdered Alodine or Iridite 14-2. If any of you have some left over from your project that you would like to sell and are within a few hours drive of northern Arizona, please let me know. Thanks in advance for your help, Ron crb@commspeed .net


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    Time: 07:22:16 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Teflon Hose
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net> I don't thinke the hose size is going to make that much difference. The fire sleeve has to slide on over the fittings once the hose is built and the fittings are larger than the hose. The -6 nuts on hose fittings should be fairly comparable in size I would think. I ordered all fittings, hose, and sleeve from Baker Precision and all fit nicely. Jerry Calvert N296JC RV6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "sarg314" <sarg314@comcast.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Teflon Hose > --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net> > > Jerry: > What has confused me about the fire sleeve size is that different > manufacturers -6 hoses have different O.D.'s. Aeroquip 666 teflon hose > has O.D. of 0.466, while Earl's -6 hose is 0.546 O.D. I guess aeroquip > -6 firesleeve fits aeroquip -6 hose, but probably not an Earl's -6 Does > Earls make their own firesleeve, or do I use a -8 aeroquip firesleeve to > fit a -6 earl's hose, or....? > > Jerry Calvert wrote: > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net> > > > >Order by the dash number. -6 hose uses -6 firelseeve. > > > >Here is the fire sleeve on Bakers site: > >http://www.bakerprecision.com/insulat.htm > > > >Jerry Calvert > >N296JC RV6 > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "sarg314" <sarg314@comcast.net> > >To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Re: RV-List: Teflon Hose > > > > > > > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net> > >> > >>Jerry: > >> Thanks for the tip. It sounds like you used the Earl's hose. Can > >>you tell me what size firesleeve you used over it? Is the size of the > >>firesleeve determined by the size of the hose, or the size of the > >>fittings on the hose? > >> > >>Jerry Calvert wrote > >> > >


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    Time: 08:16:49 AM PST US
    From: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
    Subject: RV Fly-in
    --> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com> I was looking at the Sun-n-Fun web site this morning and noticed that there is an RV fly in next month. Seems to be the third year they have done it. Has anybody been in the past? Looks like there will be some prizes for different things. Here is the web site. http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content/events/details.asp?eventid=67&section=yearround&body=events Scott Frierson RV6-A Flying


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    Time: 09:17:57 AM PST US
    From: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com> Aircraft Spruce has powdered alodine, but it's in a huge quantity. For a more reasonable amount and cost, I had good luck with the liquid stuff. Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Flagstaff, AZ -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Burden Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Burden" <crb@commspeed.net> Hi List, I am a new builder (RV7A empennage) in Cottonwood, AZ. I have been unable to locate a reasonable source for powdered Alodine or Iridite 14-2. If any of you have some left over from your project that you would like to sell and are within a few hours drive of northern Arizona, please let me know. Thanks in advance for your help, Ron crb@commspeed .net


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    Time: 09:33:44 AM PST US
    From: "J D Newsum" <jnewsum1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04
    --> RV-List message posted by: "J D Newsum" <jnewsum1@msn.com> Ron, I'm an RV6 builder located in North Phoenix AZ. I bought 10lbs of Iridite 14-2 from Allied Plating Supplies in Fl. in August this year (2004). 10 lbs was the minimum order. I would be glad to sell you a couple of pounds. 1 lb. of Iridite will make 10 gallons of liquid Alodine solution. Works great. Contact me off list if you are interested at jnewsum1@msn.com Dave Newsum -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Burden Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Burden" <crb@commspeed.net> Hi List, I am a new builder (RV7A empennage) in Cottonwood, AZ. I have been unable to locate a reasonable source for powdered Alodine or Iridite 14-2. If any of you have some left over from your project that you would like to sell and are within a few hours drive of northern Arizona, please let me know. Thanks in advance for your help, Ron crb@commspeed .net


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    Time: 09:35:57 AM PST US
    From: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net>
    Subject: Re: RV Fly-in
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie-6a@prodigy.net> Good RV fly-in with over 100 RV's last year.Check http://www.rotaryaviation.com/VAF-FL-Wing.html for more info. Ollie 6A Central Fl. ----- Original Message ----- From: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com> Subject: RV-List: RV Fly-in > --> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com> > > I was looking at the Sun-n-Fun web site this morning and noticed that > there > is an RV fly in next month. Seems to be the third year they have done it. > Has anybody been in the past? Looks like there will be some prizes for > different things. > Here is the web site. > > http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content/events/details.asp?eventid=67&section=yearround&body=events > > Scott Frierson > RV6-A Flying > > >


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    Time: 09:38:26 AM PST US
    Subject: ACS 2002 out of box experience
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Hey Dan. OK I Found it. Thanks dude. I guess the issue is that wiring needs to be in one location. In the Appendix where you can go to one place to get the wiring info. I stil cant find the serial data 9pin wiring. I have 10 books all laid out on the bench putting wire A to wire B. Both this one and the GRT EFIS is missing some key data. All the others, which has much more complicated wiring schemas have been no trouble. Maybe Im a dope! (No comments from the peanut gallery!) Mike Wiring Yee HA! Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway Subject: Re: RV-List: ACS 2002 out of box experience --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > 7. There are 2 9 pin db connectors on the back of the display with > absolutely no wiring diagram for them. This looks like a tremendous > oversight. A straight fwd index with pin outs is a must. Mike, http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/public/ACS2002_CD_IMAGE/ACS2002_ System_Manual_V2_3.pdf It's all in there...see page 27 for the audio connection pinouts. Here's what it says: RS-232 Port 2 and Sound connections DB-9 Pin Description 4 26 Ohm Speaker Audio Output 5 Ground 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 560 Ohm Audio Output And the PC connection is covered here: http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/public/ACS2002_CD_IMAGE/50906_Fi eld_Programming_Cable.pdf I installed an "early" ACS2002 and even then had no shortage of information for installation. It's all in there if you look for it! ;-) )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 10:54:53 AM PST US
    From: Craig <craigtxtx@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Price Increase - Can I sneek in?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Craig <craigtxtx@yahoo.com> I just ordered a QB kit and paid in full just prior to year end and they honored the 2004 price. My 8AQB is scheduled to ship in Mar./April time frame. Call them on Mon. and see what they tell you. Craig 8AQB - Just started


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    Time: 02:52:59 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
    Subject: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net> Had a wild ride coming back into LZU this afternoon. Atis report 330-16, G-23, landin 25. very turbulent. Had to tuch down long at better than 90mp indicated with some crab as coulndnt take it all out with ruder and stay in neighborhood of middle. Had rt wing down as low as i dared. I would venture that gusts were stronger as at about 100-150' plane whipped from about a 40d crab to nearly sideways befor I could counter it. I have 22 hrs in Tweety bird now, glad it didnt happen early on. Since we dont have a max demonstrated xwind figure as a standard I was wondering what some of the more experienced 6A drivers had managed or would consider max X-wind for our planes. Charlie heathco


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    Time: 05:34:57 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Charles Heathco wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net> > > Had a wild ride coming back into LZU this afternoon. Atis report 330-16, > G-23, landin 25. very turbulent. Had to tuch down long at better than 90mp > indicated with some crab as coulndnt take it all out with ruder and stay in > neighborhood of middle. Had rt wing down as low as i dared. I would venture > that gusts were stronger as at about 100-150' plane whipped from about a 40d > crab to nearly sideways befor I could counter it. I have 22 hrs in Tweety > bird now, glad it didnt happen early on. Since we dont have a max > demonstrated xwind figure as a standard I was wondering what some of the > more experienced 6A drivers had managed or would consider max X-wind for our > planes. Charlie heathco Charlie, I have a little over 600 hrs in my RV-6, and a couple weeks ago experienced a landing that I feel is pretty much max crosswind for this pilot in my taildragger. The active runway at DCU was 36, and the wind was 290 at 19k, gusting 26k. To make things more interesting, the gusting wind was blowing over the adjacent community college campus's various multifloor buildings and also the hangars at DCU. This creates some pretty active rotor action. The landing(s)(!) was safe but the plane had to be flown all the way down with full rudder. Taxiing was interesting because I had a light fuel load, no passenger, and the -6 with its tail planted on the ground wanted to go flying again in the strongest gusts. I decided at that point that 26k crosswind component would work just fine for my personal limit. I might be able to stretch the definition of "landing" in order to accommodate a stronger crosswind, but it would probably be a bit ugly. :-) As an afterthought, if facing a similar situation on a wide runway like DCU's, I would touch down on the downwind side and aim the plane diagonally across the runway in order to reduce the crosswind component as much as possible. The ground speed of the RV is so low in that much wind that there would be plenty of runway with which to work. Even after 600+ hours in the plane, it was definitely a learning experience! :-) Sam Buchanan http://thervjournal.com


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    Time: 05:44:05 PM PST US
    From: "Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net> RV-List Digest": chaztuna@adelphia.net
    Subject: Re:
    RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net> RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 Pat, At $1.66 per gallon for powder versus $20 to $27 per gallon liquid, there is NO good deal on liquid Alodine or Iridite. Do the math. Even buying 10 pounds (minumum purchase quantity for powder. Enough to make 100 - 130 gallons) of Iridite 14-2 at $166 is a better deal than buying 4-5 gallons of liquid at the prices above. Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com> > >Aircraft Spruce has powdered alodine, but it's in a huge quantity. For a >more reasonable amount and cost, I had good luck with the liquid stuff. > >Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Flagstaff, AZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Burden >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Burden" <crb@commspeed.net> > >Hi List, > >I am a new builder (RV7A empennage) in Cottonwood, AZ. I have been unable >to locate a reasonable source for powdered Alodine or Iridite 14-2. If any >of you have some left over from your project that you would like to sell and >are within a few hours drive of northern Arizona, please let me know. > >Thanks in advance for your help, > >Ron >crb@commspeed .net > >


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    Time: 06:14:06 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> My personal experience in my RV-6A was a right quartering headwind with gusts to 24-32 knots. Biggest problem was fighting the effects caused by the wind direction/velocity being perturbed by buildings and trees along the runway. Very exciting and I was happy to have a nose gear to plant firmly on the runway and lower the wing's angle of attack. Won't willing fly in that type of condition again. Ed Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> > > Charles Heathco wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net> > > > > Had a wild ride coming back into LZU this afternoon. Atis report 330-16, > > G-23, landin 25. very turbulent. Had to tuch down long at better than 90mp > > indicated with some crab as coulndnt take it all out with ruder and stay in > > neighborhood of middle. Had rt wing down as low as i dared. I would venture > > that gusts were stronger as at about 100-150' plane whipped from about a 40d > > crab to nearly sideways befor I could counter it. I have 22 hrs in Tweety > > bird now, glad it didnt happen early on. Since we dont have a max > > demonstrated xwind figure as a standard I was wondering what some of the > > more experienced 6A drivers had managed or would consider max X-wind for our > > planes. Charlie heathco > > > Charlie, I have a little over 600 hrs in my RV-6, and a couple weeks ago > experienced a landing that I feel is pretty much max crosswind for this > pilot in my taildragger. > > The active runway at DCU was 36, and the wind was 290 at 19k, gusting > 26k. To make things more interesting, the gusting wind was blowing over > the adjacent community college campus's various multifloor buildings and > also the hangars at DCU. This creates some pretty active rotor action. > > The landing(s)(!) was safe but the plane had to be flown all the way > down with full rudder. Taxiing was interesting because I had a light > fuel load, no passenger, and the -6 with its tail planted on the ground > wanted to go flying again in the strongest gusts. I decided at that > point that 26k crosswind component would work just fine for my personal > limit. I might be able to stretch the definition of "landing" in order > to accommodate a stronger crosswind, but it would probably be a bit > ugly. :-) > > As an afterthought, if facing a similar situation on a wide runway like > DCU's, I would touch down on the downwind side and aim the plane > diagonally across the runway in order to reduce the crosswind component > as much as possible. The ground speed of the RV is so low in that much > wind that there would be plenty of runway with which to work. > > Even after 600+ hours in the plane, it was definitely a learning > experience! :-) > > Sam Buchanan > http://thervjournal.com > >


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    Time: 06:17:04 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV6A max demonstrated X-wind
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com Charles Heathco wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net> > > Had a wild ride coming back into LZU this afternoon. Atis report 330-16, > G-23, landing 25. very turbulent. Had to touch down long at better than 90mp > indicated with some crab as coulndnt take it all out with ruder and stay in > neighborhood of middle. Had rt wing down as low as i dared. I would venture > that gusts were stronger as at about 100-150' plane whipped from about a 40d > crab to nearly sideways before I could counter it. I have 22 hrs in Tweety > bird now, glad it didn't happen early on. Since we don't have a max > demonstrated xwind figure as a standard I was wondering what some of the > more experienced 6A drivers had managed or would consider max X-wind for our > planes. Charlie heathco ============================== Charlie- 25kts direct cross is about my limit and it certainly helps if it's steady. I had this situation going into Henderson NV on 12/23 and it was interesting, but still quite safe. We were getting tumbleweed status reports on approach. No tail-dragger fliers were anywhere near the airport, probably hiding at home. ;o). GV (RV-6A N1GV, Flying 736hrs)


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    Time: 08:00:48 PM PST US
    From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
    Subject: special FWF nuts?
    0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary 0.01 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE Received: by and from look like IP addresses --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Are there special nuts I should be using for stuff like on the Adel clamps FWF? Are the nylon lock nuts taboo FWF? I notice in a couple of kits I got for FWF related stuff they used different style nuts but one thing they all did NOT have in common was nylon inserts. Thanks, lucky Are there special nuts I should be using for stuff like onthe Adel clamps FWF? Are the nylon lock nuts taboo FWF? I notice in a couple of kits I got for FWF related stuffthey useddifferent style nuts but one thing they all did NOT have in common was nylon inserts. Thanks, lucky


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    Time: 08:07:03 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Lewis " <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
    Subject: Re: Ice formation in auto fuel in flight
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Lewis " <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> Thanks for all the responses on and off the list. I've never used Teflon tape on my fuel system, so that's not a likely factor. With above freezing temps today I encountered no problems flying from the right tank. I'm pretty confident fuel tank or fuel line icing was the problem. I found no water in the tank when I sumped it, but that would be consistent with the idea that the water only came out of solution at the much colder temps encountered during the flight, and would have been reabsorbed when temps climbed. > I'm very > hesitant to use an automotive "dry gas" product. I've heard warnings against using > these (mostly alcohol) products with aircraft. Here's an interesting note from Lycoming Service Instruction 1070M (www.lycoming.textron.com/support/publications/ maintenancePublications/serviceInstructions/SI1070M.pdf). "NOTE Isopropyl alcohol in amounts not to exceed 1% per volume may be added to the fuel to prevent ice formation in fuel lines and tanks. Although approved for use in Textron Lycoming engines, isopropyl alcohol should not be used in the aircraft fuel systems unless recommended by the aircraft manufacturer." A caution I've found at multiple sources is that isopropyl alcohol is often sold as 70/30 (30% water) solution, which is not what is needed. The "dry" (99+% isopropyl alcohol), sometimes apparently found in "dry gas" automotive products) is what's needed. Hoses, gascolator gaskets, and fuel filters will have to be checked for compatability before use. Tim Lewis RV-6A N47TD, 707 hrs RV-10 under construction ------- End of forwarded message -------


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    Time: 08:31:20 PM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Ice formation in auto fuel in flight
    --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> Tim Lewis wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Lewis " <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> > >Thanks for all the responses on and off the list. I've never used Teflon tape on my fuel >system, so that's not a likely factor. With above freezing temps today I encountered no >problems flying from the right tank. I'm pretty confident fuel tank or fuel line icing was the >problem. I found no water in the tank when I sumped it, but that would be consistent with the >idea that the water only came out of solution at the much colder temps encountered during the >flight, and would have been reabsorbed when temps climbed. > HUH? Tim, I hate to send you back to "problem solving 101", but fuel and water don't mix at any temperature. What can happen, and has been suggested, is that water collects in a low spot, which freezes and blocks (or severely reduces) the fuel flow. The only way to get the water out of the low spot is to use high pressure air to blow it out. Do not use 'dri-gas' as it's mostly alcohol and will do harm to seals and diaphragms. Linn do not archive -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 08:55:05 PM PST US
    From: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-List
    Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com> True enough, especially if you need 100+ gallons. Or if you have enough friends that you can share it out, which really helps the expense. However, for those of us unfortunate enough to live in the 'boonies', it makes more sense to buy the liquid. Yes, the material cost is higher but the bottom line is lower. By the way, when I 'did the math', I used the actual price, which is $15-16 per gallon liquid vs. $858 for 60 lbs powder (Aircraft Spruce's only listed quantity for powder.) Fortunately for Ron, there is someone fairly nearby that can help him out. Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Muddling through without a builder's group, etc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net> RV-List Digest : chaztuna@adelphia.net Subject: RE: Liquid versus powdered Alodine or Iridite was RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net> --> RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 Pat, At $1.66 per gallon for powder versus $20 to $27 per gallon liquid, there is NO good deal on liquid Alodine or Iridite. Do the math. Even buying 10 pounds (minumum purchase quantity for powder. Enough to make 100 - 130 gallons) of Iridite 14-2 at $166 is a better deal than buying 4-5 gallons of liquid at the prices above. Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com> > >Aircraft Spruce has powdered alodine, but it's in a huge quantity. For >a more reasonable amount and cost, I had good luck with the liquid stuff. > >Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - Flagstaff, AZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Burden >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 12/23/04 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Burden" <crb@commspeed.net> > >Hi List, > >I am a new builder (RV7A empennage) in Cottonwood, AZ. I have been >unable to locate a reasonable source for powdered Alodine or Iridite >14-2. If any of you have some left over from your project that you >would like to sell and are within a few hours drive of northern Arizona, please let me know. > >Thanks in advance for your help, > >Ron >crb@commspeed .net > >


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    From: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
    Subject: special FWF nuts?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com> Lucky: BEST PRACTICE is to use only all metal locknuts firewall forward. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 1,617 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: RV-List: special FWF nuts? Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary 0.01 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Are there special nuts I should be using for stuff like on the Adel clamps FWF? Are the nylon lock nuts taboo FWF? I notice in a couple of kits I got for FWF related stuff they used different style nuts but one thing they all did NOT have in common was nylon inserts. Thanks, lucky Are there special nuts I should be using for stuff like onthe Adel clamps FWF? Are the nylon lock nuts taboo FWF? I notice in a couple of kits I got for FWF related stuffthey useddifferent style nuts but one thing they all did NOT have in common was nylon inserts. Thanks, lucky


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    Time: 11:28:59 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Black" <black@usa.sh>
    Subject: GPS
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Black" <black@usa.sh> There's a newer model GPS for sale on ebay. The bids look pretty low. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4513914376> &item=4513914376 Has anyone used one of these? Bob Black




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