Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 04:29 AM - Re: Fuselage Stands (Richard Lundin)
2. 05:28 AM - W-728 reinforcing strips (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
3. 05:49 AM - Re: Fuselage Stands (Kevin Williams)
4. 06:50 AM - Re: CO Detector (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: CO Detector (Dan Checkoway)
6. 07:52 AM - Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted (Charlie Kuss)
7. 08:55 AM - Re: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted (Bob Black)
8. 09:03 AM - Re: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted (Kathleen (rv7))
9. 09:50 AM - Re:special FWF nuts (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
10. 10:34 AM - Re: CO Detector (SportAV8R@aol.com)
11. 11:27 AM - Re: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted (Bryan Jones)
12. 11:50 AM - Re: Fuselage Stands (Chris W)
13. 12:26 PM - Re: CO Detector (Dan Checkoway)
14. 05:01 PM - Re: CO Detector (Larry Bowen)
15. 05:04 PM - Re: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted (Larry Bowen)
16. 05:53 PM - Re: CO Detector (Dan Checkoway)
17. 06:04 PM - Re: CO Detector (Ralph E. Capen)
18. 06:29 PM - Re: RV9A empennage for sale (Ernest Kells)
19. 07:18 PM - Re: CO Detector (Larry Bowen)
20. 07:48 PM - Re: CO Detector (LarryRobertHelming)
21. 07:53 PM - Re: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted (LarryRobertHelming)
22. 08:47 PM - vans alternators (Wheeler North)
23. 09:04 PM - alternator (Wheeler North)
24. 10:25 PM - Homebuilt Catalog ()
25. 10:46 PM - Re: Homebuilt Catalog (Mitch Faatz)
26. 11:08 PM - Re: Homebuilt Catalog (Jim Jewell)
Message 1
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Fuselage Stands |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin <rlundin46@yahoo.com>
Jeff Bordelan makes a fuselage stand with the
attributes you talk about. Don't remember the price
but it seemed pretty resonable. His email is
RV-7A@Austin.RR.com
Rick
--- "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Valovich, Paul"
> <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
>
> I'm one of the many who ordered their kits this week
> to avoid the Jan
> price increase (Barbara(?) at Vans told me they
> received 40 quickbuild
> orders Monday). Now that I'm really committed to the
> -8A, I've been
> thinking of the prep needed for the April QB kit
> delivery. I like the
> idea of rotating fuselage stands and want to
> construct them myself. I
> tried the Search feature and got some ideas -
> including modification of
> the $50 engine stands. A couple questions:
>
> * Where would I get the engine stands to
> modify?
> * Has anyone published plans for a rotating
> fuselage stand (both
> using the engine stand or starting from scratch)?
>
>
> Paul Valovich
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
Message 2
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | W-728 reinforcing strips |
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
W-728 reinforcing strips on the wing tips.
Should these be made from the wing trim bundle? it would appear that
they need to be cut in half longways and that would leave one trim bundle
piece left over for ?
Would hate to guess wrong.
Thanks
RV-4
RV-8 QB ....wing
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
Message 3
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Fuselage Stands |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
The stand looks interesting. Have you actually built this thing yet? I do
like the height adjustment abilities ect. Please do finish off the model
and let us know when you're done
Looks intere
From: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuselage Stands
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W
<1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Valovich, Paul wrote:
>* Where would I get the engine stands to modify? * Has anyone
>published plans for a rotating fuselage stand (both using the engine stand
>or starting from scratch)?
>
>
I liked the idea of the engine stand but I want to be able to do more
than you can with the engine stand. I want to have the height
adjustable as well as rotate the fuselage. I don't like the idea of
having the tail unsupported while rotating the thing around or raising
it up and down so my idea includes 2 stands that are basically the same
thing, one at each end. I have a few screen captures of my very early
design here http://cdw.homelinux.com:8088/aviation/stands/
If you like the concept and would really like to build a set I will be
happy to finish up the model and make drawings. Any input on the design
would also be welcome. My plan is to have it so you can build it using
only a cut off saw, drill press, welder and grinder.
Chris W
Gift Giving Made Easy
Get the gifts you want & give the
gifts they want for any event
http://thewishzone.com
Message 4
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Dan,
Is this available in the US?
Do not archive.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 12/28/04 8:11:38 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dan@rvproject.com writes:
I soldered it up and it passed the "truck tailpipe test" as well as
detecting different vapors (i.e. butane, acetone...not relevant but an
interesting plus). I haven't installed it in the plane yet, but soon I will
mount it over the heat manifold and hook it into the ACS2002 and one of its
"user input" circuits. That way it will give me an audio plus and on-screen
alert. The sensitivity can be tuned with a simple pot adjustment.
Hard to beat the price, customizability, and the DIY factor.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
Message 5
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>> http://www.electronic-kits-and-projects.com/4055.htm
>
> Is this available in the US?
I had 12 of them shipped to the US.
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
Message 6
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Listers,
I'm trying to choose a Hobbs meter to install in the right mid cabin
cover (F-8113-R) of my RV-8A project. I'm leaning towards using one of the
rectangular units (it's smaller). I note that ACS offers two rectangular
units. ACS offers the Model 15000. See
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/hobbs.php
Wicks Aircraft has two offerings. Models 82450 and 85094. The 85094 appears
to be the same unit as ACS's model 15000
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1868~subid=2742/index.html
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1875~subid=2743/index.html
Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these units? Any advantage to
purchasing the more expensive units?
Charlie Kuss
Message 7
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Black" <black@usa.sh>
I had a different meter and replaced it in -6. The original (I can't
remember the brand, but I think it came from Aircraft Spruce) failed after
110 hours. It was replaced, but I am now using the real "Hobbs" meter.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kuss
Subject: RV-List: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Listers,
I'm trying to choose a Hobbs meter to install in the right mid cabin
cover (F-8113-R) of my RV-8A project. I'm leaning towards using one of the
rectangular units (it's smaller). I note that ACS offers two rectangular
units. ACS offers the Model 15000. See
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/hobbs.php
Wicks Aircraft has two offerings. Models 82450 and 85094. The 85094 appears
to be the same unit as ACS's model 15000
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1868~subid=2742/
index.html
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1875~subid=2743/
index.html
Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these units? Any advantage to
purchasing the more expensive units?
Charlie Kuss
Message 8
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <kathleen@rv7.us>
I have looked at several models of meters and concluded that the original
rectangular hobbs meter (the Hobbs brand name) is better quality than many
of the substitutes. It's a very small package with reasonably large
numbers, but it finish and construction of it looks better to me. It is
marginally more expensive than the ISSPRO and some others, but only by a few
bucks. The model 15000 is what I'm putting in my panel.
Only partially informed, but loaded with opinions,
Kathleen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kuss
Subject: RV-List: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Listers,
I'm trying to choose a Hobbs meter to install in the right mid cabin
cover (F-8113-R) of my RV-8A project. I'm leaning towards using one of the
rectangular units (it's smaller). I note that ACS offers two rectangular
units. ACS offers the Model 15000. See
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/hobbs.php
Wicks Aircraft has two offerings. Models 82450 and 85094. The 85094 appears
to be the same unit as ACS's model 15000
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1868~subid=2742/
index.html
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1875~subid=2743/
index.html
Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these units? Any advantage to
purchasing the more expensive units?
Charlie Kuss
Message 9
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re:special FWF nuts |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
What shipping? I live 15 min from Van's... Oh, my bad.. forgot to mention
that... :)
Jerry Cochran
def do not archive...
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:special FWF nuts
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
hey, don't forget shipping -)
do not archive
Jerry2DT@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
>
>
> What is at issue here, cost? for 3/16 nuts, nylok are .09, all metal .15.
> Heck, I just like the looks of the metal ones FWF so I spent the extra
$2...
:)
>
> Jerry Cochran
Message 10
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Are all 12 spoken for?
Bill B
do not archive
Message 11
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Small rectangular Hobbs brand has worked for me for about 690 hrs. Located
in right main sub panel.
Bryan Jones
Houston
>Listers,
> I'm trying to choose a Hobbs meter to install in the right mid cabin
>cover (F-8113-R) of my RV-8A project. I'm leaning towards using one of the
>rectangular units (it's smaller). I note that ACS offers two rectangular
>units. ACS offers the Model 15000. See
>
>http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/hobbs.php
>
>Wicks Aircraft has two offerings. Models 82450 and 85094. The 85094 appears
>to be the same unit as ACS's model 15000
>
>http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1868~subid=2742/
>index.html
>
>http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1875~subid=2743/
>index.html
>
>Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these units? Any advantage to
>purchasing the more expensive units?
Message 12
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Fuselage Stands |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Kevin Williams wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>
>The stand looks interesting. Have you actually built this thing yet? I do
>like the height adjustment abilities ect. Please do finish off the model
>and let us know when you're done
>
>
>
I haven't built one yet because I don't need one yet. I have done some
work to finish up and unless someone has some better ideas or wants
something changed I will make the detail drawings in the next few days
and post them in a pdf file on the site. I have updated all the images
at http://cdw.homelinux.com:8088/aviation/stands/ there is one thing I'm
not sure how much I like. If you look at the close up and cut away
images you will see my solution to stop the red tube from slipping out
of the blue tube if the clamp on the blue tube isn't tight enough. The
only problem I see with this is if you do actually rotate the fuselage
enough times in the right direction you could unscrew the eye bolt
holding it in, or you could screw it in all the way and snap the eye off
the eye bolt. I don't think that will really be a problem since it
would take 15 or more complete rotations in the same direction. The
only other idea I have for a safety to stop the red tube from
inadvertently falling out of the blue, requires some machining and I
don't want to do that if I don't have to. In case it's not obvious from
my model the red tube has a washer weld in the end for a cap and nut
welded on the washer to hold the eye bolt. The long hex bolt is a
coupler nut that is welded on and then cut in half with the top edge of
the blue tube. Then one half of the coupler nut has the threads drilled
out so a bolt can be used to clamp the blue tube to the red tube.
The hand winch is probably over kill on the tail end but I didn't feel
like making 2 models when that was the only difference. If you are
strong enough or have a buddy or 2 handy the wench on the firewall end
is probably not necessary either. The idea is to have a cable attached
to the top bolt on the green bracket and then up over the pulley on the
top and down to the winch. The winch will just be used to get the
fuselage to the hight you want and the bolt or pin through the green
bracket and the vertical tube will hold it up. You may have noticed the
4 holes in the green bracket are a different spacing (3/4 inch) than the
holes in the yellow tube (1 inch). The reason for that is to allow
height adjustments in 1/4 inch increments, move it up 1/4 inch and put
the bolt or pin in the holes that line up.
I didn't do any detail on how to attach the red plate to the plane
because that will be different for tandem and side by side
configurations and the tail stand will probably be different on the tail
wheel vs nose wheel planes. In either case, a simple frame out of
square tubing to attach to the fire wall can easily be bolted or welded
to the red plate for the fire wall and some holes in the right size
plate should work for the tail stand. .
Chris W
Gift Giving Made Easy
Get the gifts you want & give the
gifts they want for any event
http://thewishzone.com
Message 13
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Yeah, all 12 are gone -- it was a SoCal group order. Charlie Kuss is doing
another group order in Florida, I believe.
do not archive
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: CO Detector
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> Are all 12 spoken for?
>
> Bill B
>
> do not archive
>
>
Message 14
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Cool alternative. How are you able to calibrate it? IE, how do you know
that the sensitivity is tuned to xx PPM?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> In a message dated 12/28/04 8:11:38 PM US Eastern Standard
> Time, dan@rvproject.com writes:
>
> I soldered it up and it passed the "truck tailpipe test" as
> well as detecting different vapors (i.e. butane,
> acetone...not relevant but an interesting plus). I haven't
> installed it in the plane yet, but soon I will mount it over
> the heat manifold and hook it into the ACS2002 and one of its
> "user input" circuits. That way it will give me an audio
> plus and on-screen alert. The sensitivity can be tuned with
> a simple pot adjustment.
>
> Hard to beat the price, customizability, and the DIY factor.
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
Message 15
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I don't have a hobbs. I only used the hourmeter in the EIS engine monitor.
Just another alternative.......
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> >Listers,
> > I'm trying to choose a Hobbs meter to install in the
> right mid cabin
> >cover (F-8113-R) of my RV-8A project. I'm leaning towards
> using one of
> >the rectangular units (it's smaller). I note that ACS offers two
> >rectangular units. ACS offers the Model 15000. See
> >
> >http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/hobbs.php
> >
> >Wicks Aircraft has two offerings. Models 82450 and 85094. The 85094
> >appears to be the same unit as ACS's model 15000
> >
> >http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1
> 868~subid> >2742/
> >index.html
> >
> >http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1
> 875~subid> >2743/
> >index.html
> >
> >Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these units? Any
> >advantage to purchasing the more expensive units?
>
>
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 16
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
To be honest -- no idea. You "calibrate" it in that you can adjust the
sensitivity with a pot. It's gonna take some tweaking, I can assume. As an
experiment, I put it in the exhaust from my truck's tailpipe and adjusted it
so that it closed the relay circuit (and lit the LED) when within 2' of the
exhaust.
In the plane I'll start with it pretty sensitive, and adjust it so that it
doesn't "nuisance trip." No idea if it will be fully functional or not, but
it was pretty cheap. ;-) Figure it's worth a shot. Better than nothing,
right?
It's hard to reproduce a faulty condition without sabotaging my heat system.
I figure it's a step in the right direction without breaking the bank.
do not archive
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: CO Detector
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Cool alternative. How are you able to calibrate it? IE, how do you know
> that the sensitivity is tuned to xx PPM?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > In a message dated 12/28/04 8:11:38 PM US Eastern Standard
> > Time, dan@rvproject.com writes:
> >
> > I soldered it up and it passed the "truck tailpipe test" as
> > well as detecting different vapors (i.e. butane,
> > acetone...not relevant but an interesting plus). I haven't
> > installed it in the plane yet, but soon I will mount it over
> > the heat manifold and hook it into the ACS2002 and one of its
> > "user input" circuits. That way it will give me an audio
> > plus and on-screen alert. The sensitivity can be tuned with
> > a simple pot adjustment.
> >
> > Hard to beat the price, customizability, and the DIY factor.
> >
> > )_( Dan
> > RV-7 N714D
> > http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
Message 17
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
I installed a CO Guardian in my panel - fits in a small standard hole with a
fitting kit:
http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm
These guys are distributors.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RV-List: CO Detector
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Anyone using one of these CO detectors? Recommended?
>
> http://www.pilotmall.com/page/1/PROD/101/303
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>
Message 18
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: RV9A empennage for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" <ernest.kells@sympatico.ca>
>> After finishing the empennage of a RV9A,....Snip.....the aircraft cost is
going to be too high for me. While the RV9A will always be my
dream.....Snip....I have decided....Snip....a Corvair powered Zenith 601XL.
<<
Personally, I think that you will be disappointed. I am 95% complete
building the RV-9A (prepping for paint). Being newly retired, cost was an
issue (building cost plus operating and maintenance cost). I have looked at
all of the options including Zenith, Murphy, Kitfox, etc. The answers all
pointed to the RV-9A. When you buy the kit it locks you in for the life of
that airplane. The airframe/kit is the most important decision - and leaves
you well-defined upgrade choices for the future.
For example; Vans kits are very inclusive, with almost all parts included.
The RV-9A comes with a complete, anodised spar! All fixtures, rivets , most
fairings, etc., etc. Most alternatives have many upgrades that are not
really an option. It gets expensive. Also, the plane will be an asset not
unlike your house. You can always sell a completed RV at a premium. They
dominate the market. Try to sell anything else. Check E-Bay,
Trade-A-Plane, etc.
You can save money building if necessary. For example. I am using the
O-235 engine with a much better fuel burn. Figure 1,000 hours @ cost of
fuel per hour. Big money. Buy a near runout Lycoming. It is cheap and will
give you 5 or 10 years to get that promotion. I have an Ed Sterba prop
($575) - Van designs around wood. Buy the pre-punched panel and order the
Vans steam gages with limited avionics for really fun VFR. Upgrade as you
get the money.
Fly the plane for a few years "unpainted". Buy the template for the
registration marks, then buy one quart of paint in your accent colour and
personally paint the wing tips, letters, stripes - - and just polish the
other aluminum for a few years. Soon you will be richer and will be able to
upgrade your plane to dream status. Aluminum airplanes Really Rock
unpainted - especially the military look. Compare to the opposition -
painted or otherwise. Any RV with a spinning prop will always turn heads
until it has taken off or shut down, period.
Those first few years will the best flying of your life (all enhancements
will degrade you in the future - more weight and complexity). By the way,
the RV List and others are a tremendous resource far better than any other
supplier - - did someone say that the Vans meter just tripped 4,000 ? ? ?
Good luck on your decision - whether you build an RV, wait until you can
build an RV, or you build something else. Research it well. It's a big
decision.
Message 19
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Looks nice, but pricey. I didn't see where it said how long they last. Do
you know? Most others I've been looking at are no good after five years.
I like their remote enunciator light. Push to test, twist to dim LED.
Nice. Anyone know where else to get those? Digikey?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph E. Capen [mailto:recapen@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:02 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: CO Detector
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen"
> <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> I installed a CO Guardian in my panel - fits in a small
> standard hole with a fitting kit:
>
> http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm
>
> These guys are distributors.....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: CO Detector
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> >
> > Anyone using one of these CO detectors? Recommended?
> >
> > http://www.pilotmall.com/page/1/PROD/101/303
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> =========
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 20
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I just bought a low-level Carbon Monoxide Monitor, model 2004 from
CO-Experts for $99.99 plus $6.50 S&H. I considered the same Kemo 4055 unit
that the guys from California bought and had the following dialog with
Quasar before I decided to look for and buy a different sensor. Note, the
Model 2004 does not come with an annunciator action like planned by the
California guys are doing with the ACS2002; but, I plan to put in my every 1
hour procedure after I switch tanks, to check the display to see what, if
anything is going on. Some of the locals here in Indiana have the unit from
CO-Experts and report it works with good precision and are happy with it.
And can be recertified by sending it back to the company for maintenance.
see http://www.coexperts.com/ for more info.
Here is the latest dialog(emails) I had on the 4055:
From: LarryRobertHelming [mailto:lhelming@sigecom.net]
Subject: Re: Kemo 4055
Thank you for your previous reply concerning the VAT. Another question has
come to light: How does one go about testing the Kemo 4055 sensor to see
that it responds correctly for various carbon monoxide levels? And Is that
documentation available on the 4055 that I can see it on-line? I think it
would be nice to be able to test the sensor weekly or something like that to
help ensure it still works. After all, we are sort of staking our lives on
it -- aren't we? What is the recommended replacement or recharge period of
time?
Larry H, USA
((((((())))))) - I cannot show you their reply sent back to me due to the
following which was appended to their reply:
**********************************************************************
The information contained within this email is for use by the recipient only
and must not be communicated to any third party without the prior written
consent of Quasar Electronics Limited. ..... All information contained in
this email is the property of Quasar Electronics Limited.
**********************************************************************
Needless to say, their response changed my mind on buying their unit. Best
wishes to all for a happy and safe new year.
Larry in Indiana
----- Original Message -----
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> I installed a CO Guardian in my panel - fits in a small standard hole with
a
> fitting kit:
>
> http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm
>
> These guys are distributors.....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: CO Detector
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> >
> > Anyone using one of these CO detectors? Recommended?
> >
> > http://www.pilotmall.com/page/1/PROD/101/303
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> >
> >
Message 21
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Opinions on Hobbs Meter selection wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
The ACS2002 has a built-in hobbs meter. Saves space and hopefully
maintenance.
Indiana Larry
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
>
> Listers,
> I'm trying to choose a Hobbs meter to install in the right mid cabin
> cover (F-8113-R) of my RV-8A project. I'm leaning towards using one of the
> rectangular units (it's smaller). I note that ACS offers two rectangular
> units. ACS offers the Model 15000. See
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/hobbs.php
>
> Wicks Aircraft has two offerings. Models 82450 and 85094. The 85094
appears
> to be the same unit as ACS's model 15000
>
>
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1868~subid=2742/index.html
>
>
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=1875~subid=2743/index.html
>
> Anyone have anything good or bad to say about these units? Any advantage
to
> purchasing the more expensive units?
>
> Charlie Kuss
Message 22
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | vans alternators |
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
However, one
shouldn't consider the 35 amp unit junk because it doesn't have the capacity
one really should be using for his/her specific needs.
J,
the only reason I consider them to be junk is because several of the ones I
have seen from Vans were junk. They weren't rebuilt, and in one case, didn't
work at all.
If you are sure that your installation can not overheat the alternator with
everything turned on then fly the heck out of it. My point was that using
the manufacturer's values in this case is not going to be a valid decision
since the two different generas rate their products differently but the
numbers listed appear similar in form.
W
Message 23
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Many automobile alternators turn backwards when used in an airplane. I
think
that is why Van's discards the fan. The certificated airplanes that use
alternators (that I have seen) still have a fan, and I would highly
recommend one
Dan,
Very few power sources are rated for continuous duty, including alternators
unless required to be so by some agency.
I won't argue with your experience, but I can tell you that Van's units,
either 35 or 60 amps, on the test bench will start to fry at something less
than the supposed rated output. Been there, done that, watched the temp
probes start sticking to the insulation... As far as I'm concerned,
regardless of what the manufacture rates it at, this is the only way to be
sure what the unit can do.
I have also found that alternators are not self limited in that I have had
to change, and or overhaul at least 300 to 400 alternators over the years,
and they can get pretty smelly due to burnt stator insulation.
RE fans, most of the japanese units vent from both ends out the sides and
usually don't have an external fan, whereas the delco and bosch units tend
to vent from the back to the front and usually do have an external fan.
Honda engines tend to turn the same way as aeroplanes so this is a good
choice for the rotor source as the internal fans are a permanent part of the
field rotor.
W
Message 24
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Homebuilt Catalog |
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
Do not archive (not RV related)All, I think I have finally convinced my dad on the value and allure of homebuilts. That being said...there is no way he has the time, patience or money to do an RV (even a QB). As neat as I think it would be if he could, it is just not reality. Additionally, he has limited flexibility and likely would not be able to "build" an RV at all. That being said...I remember seeing a catalog at one time that basically covered all the details on a bazillion different homebuilts. I can't remember the name of the catalog, but I would like to purchase it to help him look at some alternatives. Off the top of my head I think a Zenith might be a good choice. Anyone know the name and where I might be able to get said catalog? Thanks,ScottRV7A Fuse on the waywww.scottsrv7a.com
Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com
The most personalized portal on the Web!
Message 25
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Homebuilt Catalog |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com>
>just not reality. Additionally, he has limited flexibility and likely
would not be able to "build" an RV at all. That being said...I >remember
seeing a catalog at one time that basically covered all the details on a
bazillion different homebuilts. I can't remember >the name of the catalog,
but I would like to purchase it to help him look at some alternatives. Off
the top of my head I think a >Zenith might be a good choice. Anyone know the
name and where I might be able to get said catalog?
You are probably talking about EAA's AeroCrafter.
http://www.pilotsbooks.com/aero_crafters.htm
Mitch Faatz RV-6A Finish Kit Auburn, CA
Message 26
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Homebuilt Catalog |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
I think Kitplanes Magazine does a homebuilt catalog issue once a year. In
the fall I believe.
That was how I came down with the RV malady.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
Subject: RV-List: Homebuilt Catalog
> --> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
>
> Do not archive (not RV related)All, I think I have finally convinced my
> dad on the value and allure of homebuilts. That being said...there is no
> way he has the time, patience or money to do an RV (even a QB). As neat
> as I think it would be if he could, it is just not reality. Additionally,
> he has limited flexibility and likely would not be able to "build" an RV
> at all. That being said...I remember seeing a catalog at one time that
> basically covered all the details on a bazillion different homebuilts. I
> can't remember the name of the catalog, but I would like to purchase it to
> help him look at some alternatives. Off the top of my head I think a
> Zenith might be a good choice. Anyone know the name and where I might be
> able to get said catalog? Thanks,ScottRV7A Fuse on the
> waywww.scottsrv7a.com
>
> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com
> The most personalized portal on the Web!
>
>
>
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|