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1. 12:03 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
2. 06:02 AM - Re: FAB mounting plate cracks. Replacement? (Alex Peterson)
3. 07:18 AM - Re: FAB mounting plate cracks. Replacement? (Brian Denk)
4. 11:00 AM - Re: Tru Trak hardware (Jeff Dowling)
5. 12:56 PM - RV-8 Strakes (sturdy@att.net)
6. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure (Scott Jackson)
7. 03:14 PM - Tru Track auto pilots (George Steube)
8. 03:46 PM - first new RV flight in 2005 (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
9. 04:39 PM - Re: first new RV flight in 2005 (Ed Anderson)
10. 05:14 PM - Skytec Flyweight Starter question (Scott VanArtsdalen)
11. 05:23 PM - Louis, Missouri in 1888. He began (William Near)
12. 05:32 PM - A new way to screw up! (Richard Scott)
13. 05:45 PM - Re: Skytec Flyweight Starter question (linn walters)
14. 06:04 PM - Re: first new RV flight in 2005 (LarryRobertHelming)
15. 06:04 PM - Re: first new RV flight in 2005 (Keith Hedrick OD)
16. 06:18 PM - Re: Tru Track auto pilots (Dale Mitchell)
17. 06:39 PM - Re: first new RV flight in 2005 (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
18. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure (Charlie Kuss)
19. 07:20 PM - Re: first new RV flight in 2005 (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
20. 07:39 PM - Re: first new RV flight in 2005 (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
21. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure (Vanremog@aol.com)
22. 10:37 PM - Re: RV-8 Strakes (Mickey Coggins)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
DNA: do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
Please read over the RV-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
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Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | FAB mounting plate cracks. Replacement? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>
> Listers,
>
> I'm in the middle of my fifth annual on my RV8 and have found
> two cracks in
> the alu FAB box plate. It's cracking at the rear, through
> the outer edge of
> a carb mounting hole and the other is alongside the left
> front mounting
> hole. No signs of FAB box impact or chafing on the cowling
> is evident.
> Good ole Lycosaur shake must have taken it's toll.
>
> What do ya'll think about using a sheet of phenolic instead?
> Would be an
> easy piece to make with a rotozip and dremel sanding wheel.
> Spruce sells it
> in 1/8" sheets that I think would be just about the right
> thickness. I
> could also layup a sheet of carbon with West Systems and
> machine it. It
> would look cool but the phenolic is ready to use and mighty
> tough. Any
> downsides to this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Denk
> RV8 N94BD
> RV10 '51
Brian, this is very common. I suspect it is not vibration, but engine
movement during g's/turbulence and startup/shutdown. That snout is a long
way forward from the FAB's mount. I don't know phenolic's cracking
tolerance at very low temperatures, one would need to understand all of
that, since pieces sucked into the engine are a bad thing. Paul Petersen,
are you listening? (he knows a bit about phenolics). I have the Airflow
Performance setup, and the edges of the mount were very sharp, creating a
classic stress riser on the plate in question. Time will tell if it helped
to radius those edges.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A 561 hours
Maple Grove, MN
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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| Subject: | FAB mounting plate cracks. Replacement? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Listers,
> >
> > I'm in the middle of my fifth annual on my RV8 and have found
> > two cracks in
> > the alu FAB box plate. It's cracking at the rear, through
> > the outer edge of
> > a carb mounting hole and the other is alongside the left
> > front mounting
> > hole. No signs of FAB box impact or chafing on the cowling
> > is evident.
> > Good ole Lycosaur shake must have taken it's toll.
> >
> > What do ya'll think about using a sheet of phenolic instead?
> > Would be an
> > easy piece to make with a rotozip and dremel sanding wheel.
> > Spruce sells it
> > in 1/8" sheets that I think would be just about the right
> > thickness. I
> > could also layup a sheet of carbon with West Systems and
> > machine it. It
> > would look cool but the phenolic is ready to use and mighty
> > tough. Any
> > downsides to this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian Denk
> > RV8 N94BD
> > RV10 '51
>
>Brian, this is very common. I suspect it is not vibration, but engine
>movement during g's/turbulence and startup/shutdown. That snout is a long
>way forward from the FAB's mount. I don't know phenolic's cracking
>tolerance at very low temperatures, one would need to understand all of
>that, since pieces sucked into the engine are a bad thing. Paul Petersen,
>are you listening? (he knows a bit about phenolics). I have the Airflow
>Performance setup, and the edges of the mount were very sharp, creating a
>classic stress riser on the plate in question. Time will tell if it helped
>to radius those edges.
>
>Alex Peterson
>RV6-A 561 hours
>Maple Grove, MN
>
>http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
>
Ah...good point. The cracks do seem coincidental with the edge of the carb
body. The bottom of the carb is machined and has a rather sharp transition
into the cast body of the carb bowl.
I've used phenolic as a carb mount on a 4.1 cu. in. Husqvarna chainsaw
engine to modify the mounting to suit an RC aircraft application. It worked
beautifully and held up to even the horrendous shaking of a single cylinder
engine of this size. Of course, it was also 3/4" thick! It was impervious
to 5% nitro glow fuel as well as gas/oil mix.
This just might work out.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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| Subject: | Re: Tru Trak hardware |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
The company recommended using loctite which I did initially. I dont think
its a good idea. I drilled out the tapped holes and put bolts and nuts in
during my annual. You dont have to used drilled bolts.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
150 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com>
Subject: RV-List: Tru Trak hardware
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com>
>
> I'm curious if anyone has a hardware callout for mounting the Tru Trak
> servo
> to the brackets. In perusing the archives it seems the best way to handle
> this is reaming out the holes and using a bolt and nut. So I'm also
> looking
> for any site or info that explains the art of safety wiring.
>
> Thanks
> Bob Collins
> St. Paul, Minn.
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: sturdy@att.net
Mickey,
That would be me. I did install strakes on my RV-8. I flew it first without them
and documented my airspeeds and that I did indeed have significant 'tail shake'
prior to the stall. It is caused by the dirty air in a near stall coming around
the fuselage/landing gear just under the leading edge, and with no energy the wing
does not streamline the air, so it hits the horzontal Stab and shakes it about
an
inch at the tip. I installed some Cessna 414 engine nacelle strakes (I bought
at
Robertson in Arlington WA) on the fuselage in front of and above the leading edge.
Next flight there was NO tail shake and NO prestall buffet. In documenting changes
after installation, I saw no top end penalty and a 5 knot reduction in stall speed.
Worked for me.
This mod is not for everyone in that the prestall buffet is gone. If one needs
that buffet to let them know he are close to stall, he should not install them.
Stu McCurdy
RV-8, Flying
RV-3, Flying
------------------------------------------------
Time: 05:37:38 AM PST US
From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Subject: Re: RV-List: 200HP cowl louver mod & strake discussion II
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> Also, there's a 4 or 5 page writeup (with pictures and drawings) by Van
himself on the > RV8 tail shakes and the strake solution. They did say they
were effective in cancelling out the prolonged prestall buffet the 8 has. But
they didn't bother
to measure any drag or speed penalty due to the strakes. They also didn't discuss
slower stall speeds/better landings. They had tunnel vision on the tail shakes
(must have had
a LOT of alarmed phase 1 test flight RV8 flyers calling in concerned...)
>
Hi,
I saw these on Stuart McCurdy's RV8 at SNF, but didn't have much of
a chance to talk to him about them. I was under the impression that
that this prestall buffet was not a big deal. I have not yet read
the Van's article. Is this something a lot of people are complaining
about?
Thanks,
Mickey
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Mickey,
That would be me. I did install strakes on my RV-8. I flew it first without them
and documented my airspeeds and that I did indeed have significant 'tail shake'
prior to the stall. It is caused by the dirty air in a near stall coming around
the fuselage/landing gear just under the leading edge, and with no energy the wing
does not streamline the air, so it hits the horzontal Stab and shakes it about
an
inch at the tip. I installed some Cessna 414 engine nacelle strakes (I bought at
Robertson in Arlington WA) on the fuselage in front of and above the leading edge.
Next flight there was NO tail shake and NO prestall buffet. In documenting changes
after installation, I saw no top end penalty and a 5 knot reduction in stall speed.
Worked for me.
This mod is not for everyone in that the prestall buffet is gone. If one needs
that buffet to let them know he are close to stall, he should no
t install them.
Stu McCurdy
RV-8, Flying
RV-3, Flying
------------------------------------------------
Time: 05:37:38 AM PST US
From: Mickey Coggins mick-matronics@rv8.ch
Subject: Re: RV-List: 200HP cowl louver mod strake discussion II
-- RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins mick-matronics@rv8.ch
Also, there's a 4 or 5 page writeup (with pictures and drawings) by Van
himself on the RV8 tail shakes and the strake solution. They did say they
were effective in cancelling out the prolonged prestall buffet the 8 has. But they
didn't bother
to measure any drag or speed penalty due to the strakes. They also didn't discuss
slower stall speeds/better landings. They had tunnel vision on the tail shakes
(must have had
a LOT of alarmed phase 1 test flight RV8 flyers calling in concerned...)
Hi,
I saw these on Stuart McCurdy's RV8 at
SNF, but didn't have much of
a chance to talk to him about them. I was under the impression that
that this prestall buffet was not a big deal. I have not yet read
the Van's article. Is this something a lot of people are complaining
about?
Thanks,
Mickey
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<SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com>, <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
One thing that no one has addressed that may be part of the problem is the
change in the space between the mounting holes on the cooler as a result of
temperature changes.
With an all-aluminum body, I wonder if the cooler is expanding more than the
structure that it's attached to.
For instance, the baffle sidewalls that fit around the valve covers are not
one piece, they interweave where they meet between the two cylinder heads, I
would think this is solely to accomodate the changing dimensions of the
engine as the heads heat up.
Scott in VancouveRV-6, 167 hours
back in the air early November after 5-month repair!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Sweet" <w_sweet@comcast.net>
<rv-list@matronics.com>; <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Sweet" <w_sweet@comcast.net>
>
> Dan,
> Looks like you may have vibration problems. Have you had the prop/engine
> dynamically balance? If not that would be a good thing to do. Can't
> believe normal stress (unless the mounting is out of alignment somehow)
> did that.
> Don't blame it on Van's design. Four bolts should be enough, UNLESS it is
> under high vibration or mis-alignment stress.
> Wayne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dan Checkoway
> To: SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com ; vansairforce@yahoogroups.com ;
> rv-list@matronics.com ; RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:17 PM
> Subject: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure
>
>
> As you may recall, I had a few bad baffle cracks early on. I'm happy to
> report that my latest baffle/brace design seems to be rock solid.
> However...last night, when doing an oil change, I noticed that my oil
> cooler
> flanges all but self-destructed. The oil cooler flanges have become the
> weak link in the chain. Photos here:
>
> http://www.rvproject.com/20041229.html (bottom of page)
>
> I blindly followed "the plans" (FWF DWG OP-27) when installing my oil
> cooler, and while I don't normally criticize the amazing job Van's has
> done,
> this is one area where the plans are definitely leading "newbies" like me
> astray. I take full responsibility for what happened, but you might want
> to
> check your installation if you followed the drawing blindly like I did.
>
> Here's the end result, including the modifications I made (that probably
> MANY less ignorant people have already made) in order to make the
> installation robust.
>
> http://www.rvproject.com/20041230.html
>
> Hope this helps!
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Tru Track auto pilots |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George Steube" <at6c@bellsouth.net>
I would like to know who found the best prices on Tru-Track autopilots and
where. Also, who provided good service? Thanks.
George
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"Merle V. Prusia" <gold.winger@verizon.net>,
"Lawrence, Jeffrey A" <jeffrey.a.lawrence@boeing.com>,
Mark Phillips <mphill@gcctv.com>, Robert Wade <wade_usmc@msn.com>,
"Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>, Brent Smith <stuntpilot@worldnet.att.net>
| Subject: | first new RV flight in 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
do not archive
Was I the first new RV to fly in 2005? serial number 20762 If not,
speak up and I will gladly concede....
Here is a web site with the pix..
http://www.litchfieldil.com/members/airport/
Today, our wx here was crappy, just like yesterday. When I woke up this
morning the awos was reporting 1/2 and 200 feet.... I went back to
sleep........
Finally got up and took my usual Sunday mornig trip to a daughters house
for breakfast.......
Kept calling awos and there was a slight rise in conditions... Hmmm.
I got back to the airport at about 11:45 or so and rolled the plane out.
At that time we had about 2200 and 7 or 8 miles.
Someone said if I didnt fly now, we were going to get rained
on.......... 'nuff said...
I gave it a final going over and jumped in, started it up and taxied out..
Run-up was routine, all things checked out good and it was time to
go........
Lined her up and squeezed in the power. (180hp with Sensenich 85 inch)
This baby doesn't rev much at static or slow speeds.. I kept the tail a
little low and I was off in perhaps 5 or 6 hundred feet (maybe less or
more). I was off the ground at about 12:15 CST
Cloud bottoms were about 2000 feet and wx was slowly deteriorating. In
level flight turning 2450 to 2500, I indicated about 180 on both the
Dynon and a regular Airspeed indicator.. Oil temp climbed up to about
180 and leveled off. When taxi-ing in, the oil temp was slowly climbing
up and was up to 190. I think it was not going to go much higher. I have
an old used Stewart Warner oil cooler.
I was concerned some about the closness of the exhaust pipe bends to the
cowling so I installed the aluminum sticky back foil. The cowling was
not even warm. But yesterday, after a 3 minute full power runup, the
cowling did heat up a little. Now I know it is not going to be a problem.
Stall speed with full flaps was about 52 or 53 indicated. I didnt do a
flaps up stall yet. Weather was closing in on me so I couldn't do all I
wanted to do...
I was flying with about 13 or 14 gallons fuel in right side and just a
couple gallons in left side.
I had some heavy right wing which may be result of most fuel on right
side. I also needed a very small amout of "left" rudder, almost none at
all. Upper and lower intersection fairings are not installed on it yet.
Actually I don't even have any yet.... Maybe when these are bought and
installed it will be in trim. Maybe it will trim up with the gear leg
fairings..
It all ended too soon. Look at the Pictures on the above website.
Yes it is an Ugly RV but it will get painted next Spring. Look how short
it looks with that gray cowling and nose. Hopefully I will have it at
Sun and Fun...Look for the Ugly duckling down there...
Bob Urban said there are no ugly RV's...
This plane was originally started by Merle Prussia in Monroe, Washington
in early 1990's I bought it and started working on it in 1998. For a
couple of years things werent happening. Then I figured it out. I was
spending too much time reading emails and not enought time working on
the airplane. I bet if there was no internet, there would be a lot of
RV's flying.
If you go to the website above "pilot information" and look at the
Pitt's in the picture above the airport , that is the engine that is in
this RV. Yep, now I have two airplanes and only one engine.
Is anyone interested in a flyin here next year? This airport has room to
tie down a bunch of RV's, Tailwinds, Mustang II's and T-18's, in the
grass.(yes, Pitt's and Eagles too) There is room to camp and motels and
restaurants are all real close by. Look at Jim Wright's map We have a
courtesy car plus pilots who will take peoeple where they need to go.
We might even be able to mooch some fuel from the airport authority for
homebuilts and small sport-planes, especially if anyone wanted to give
Young Eagle rides. At least we will work out a discounted fuel price if
there is any interest in this...
One of the local RV owners said he would kick in a keg of beer ( didn't
you Keith Hedrick) and we can get a hillbilly to cook a whole hog.
This would all be free. Another RV guy will play the banjo and drag
down a bunch of blue grass jammers ( won't you Mark Phillips from
Williamsville?)
There are two Mark Phillips who get on the list...
Just a thought, but this woiuld be a good cooling down week-end trip for
next Summer or Fall.. We could start it on a Friday afternoon and finish
up on Sunday....
Phil in Litchfield, IL
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: first new RV flight in 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Congratulations, Phil! Regardless of whether the first in 05, a great
accomplishment.
Remember, there are NO ugly RVs, just some with more cosmetic enhancement
than others {:>)
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
"Merle V. Prusia" <gold.winger@verizon.net>; "Lawrence, Jeffrey A"
<jeffrey.a.lawrence@boeing.com>; "Mark Phillips" <mphill@gcctv.com>; "Robert
Wade" <wade_usmc@msn.com>; "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>; "Brent Smith"
<stuntpilot@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RV-List: first new RV flight in 2005
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club"
<sisson@consolidated.net>
>
> do not archive
>
> Was I the first new RV to fly in 2005? serial number 20762 If not,
> speak up and I will gladly concede....
> Here is a web site with the pix..
> http://www.litchfieldil.com/members/airport/
> Today, our wx here was crappy, just like yesterday. When I woke up this
> morning the awos was reporting 1/2 and 200 feet.... I went back to
> sleep........
> Finally got up and took my usual Sunday mornig trip to a daughters house
> for breakfast.......
> Kept calling awos and there was a slight rise in conditions... Hmmm.
>
> I got back to the airport at about 11:45 or so and rolled the plane out.
> At that time we had about 2200 and 7 or 8 miles.
> Someone said if I didnt fly now, we were going to get rained
> on.......... 'nuff said...
> I gave it a final going over and jumped in, started it up and taxied out..
> Run-up was routine, all things checked out good and it was time to
> go........
> Lined her up and squeezed in the power. (180hp with Sensenich 85 inch)
> This baby doesn't rev much at static or slow speeds.. I kept the tail a
> little low and I was off in perhaps 5 or 6 hundred feet (maybe less or
> more). I was off the ground at about 12:15 CST
>
> Cloud bottoms were about 2000 feet and wx was slowly deteriorating. In
> level flight turning 2450 to 2500, I indicated about 180 on both the
> Dynon and a regular Airspeed indicator.. Oil temp climbed up to about
> 180 and leveled off. When taxi-ing in, the oil temp was slowly climbing
> up and was up to 190. I think it was not going to go much higher. I have
> an old used Stewart Warner oil cooler.
> I was concerned some about the closness of the exhaust pipe bends to the
> cowling so I installed the aluminum sticky back foil. The cowling was
> not even warm. But yesterday, after a 3 minute full power runup, the
> cowling did heat up a little. Now I know it is not going to be a problem.
> Stall speed with full flaps was about 52 or 53 indicated. I didnt do a
> flaps up stall yet. Weather was closing in on me so I couldn't do all I
> wanted to do...
> I was flying with about 13 or 14 gallons fuel in right side and just a
> couple gallons in left side.
> I had some heavy right wing which may be result of most fuel on right
> side. I also needed a very small amout of "left" rudder, almost none at
> all. Upper and lower intersection fairings are not installed on it yet.
> Actually I don't even have any yet.... Maybe when these are bought and
> installed it will be in trim. Maybe it will trim up with the gear leg
> fairings..
> It all ended too soon. Look at the Pictures on the above website.
> Yes it is an Ugly RV but it will get painted next Spring. Look how short
> it looks with that gray cowling and nose. Hopefully I will have it at
> Sun and Fun...Look for the Ugly duckling down there...
> Bob Urban said there are no ugly RV's...
> This plane was originally started by Merle Prussia in Monroe, Washington
> in early 1990's I bought it and started working on it in 1998. For a
> couple of years things werent happening. Then I figured it out. I was
> spending too much time reading emails and not enought time working on
> the airplane. I bet if there was no internet, there would be a lot of
> RV's flying.
> If you go to the website above "pilot information" and look at the
> Pitt's in the picture above the airport , that is the engine that is in
> this RV. Yep, now I have two airplanes and only one engine.
>
> Is anyone interested in a flyin here next year? This airport has room to
> tie down a bunch of RV's, Tailwinds, Mustang II's and T-18's, in the
> grass.(yes, Pitt's and Eagles too) There is room to camp and motels and
> restaurants are all real close by. Look at Jim Wright's map We have a
> courtesy car plus pilots who will take peoeple where they need to go.
> We might even be able to mooch some fuel from the airport authority for
> homebuilts and small sport-planes, especially if anyone wanted to give
> Young Eagle rides. At least we will work out a discounted fuel price if
> there is any interest in this...
>
> One of the local RV owners said he would kick in a keg of beer ( didn't
> you Keith Hedrick) and we can get a hillbilly to cook a whole hog.
> This would all be free. Another RV guy will play the banjo and drag
> down a bunch of blue grass jammers ( won't you Mark Phillips from
> Williamsville?)
> There are two Mark Phillips who get on the list...
>
> Just a thought, but this woiuld be a good cooling down week-end trip for
> next Summer or Fall.. We could start it on a Friday afternoon and finish
> up on Sunday....
>
> Phil in Litchfield, IL
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Skytec Flyweight Starter question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott VanArtsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Just starting my condition inspection and noticed something on my Skytec
starter. It has a bit of grease seeping out of the main housing. Sorry
I don't know the technical terms for these things. It looks like it's
made about 3 or 4 big drips of grease into my lower cowling. Is this
something I can just tighten up or does it warrant further
investigation? I'm going to take some pictures next time I'm out there.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Van Arts Consulting Services
3848 McHenry Ave
Suite #155-184
Modesto, CA 95356
209-986-4647
Ps 34:4,6
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He attended the Sorbonne in Paris for a year and then returned to Harvard. He
then began to study at Oxford. In 1914, he became a resident of England. In
1915, he married Vivian Haigh-Wood, but due to her mental instability and many
admissions to mental institutions, they divorced eight years later.
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| Subject: | A new way to screw up! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
I present the following for your entertainment, because I know no one else
would possibly screw up the same way.
A couple months ago I was looking for some info in AC 43.13 & a statement
caught my eye that said if aluminum gets heated above 212 degrees F, it
should be re-heat treated. I thought that 212 was pretty low and somehow
remembered that little bit of trivia.
Fast forward about 6 weeks. I was about to finish my emp. All I had to do
was fit the elevators and drill out the holes in the elevator horns. Fired
up the propane heater that a friend loaned me, got my HS down off the
shelf & put it on my work table. The HS was kind of dusty, so I grabbed my
shop brush, cleaned it off and as I hung up my brush I realized that the
end of the HS extended beyond the table and over the heater which was about
3' tall and only 4" below the HS. Raced around to shut that sucker off,
checked the HS & it was really hot! But no visible damage.
A 400 degree thermometer held 4" above the 35,000 BTU heater was still
moving up at a pretty good clip until it pegged the needle . A lot hotter
than that 212 degree limit suggested by the FAA.
Van's had never run into the problem and couldn't help me on it.
By lucky coincidence, I used to work at the Air Guard in non-destructive
testing until they kicked me out for the sin of turning 60 a year and a
half ago. At our shop, we had an eddy current test instrument that could
be used for sorting alloys, although we never used that particular
function--it was great for finding cracks in F-15's, however.
So I put a piece of scrap aluminum above the heater for an hour and even
hit a small area with a propane torch for a couple seconds (the primer
started to smoke) to make sure the instrument would find any damage if it
were present. Took both the test piece and the HS to my old shop & gave
the guys a chance to have a little "training session". The instrument
clearly showed damage in the scrap, decreasing with distance from the heat
source. And it showed no change in the HS skin. Whew! But that's not all.
Shortly after that I spent some time with my AI helping him with a little
riveting. The subject of annealing rivets came up, a light bulb came on in
my feeble brain and I immediately thought of my HS. I hadn't checked
rivets on the eddy current tester because the probe was too large for a rivet.
So I set up my pneumatic squeezer with low pressure so it would just start
to squeeze an AN3 rivet. Squeezed & measure 10 of them to get a good
sample. Then heated 10 rivets in my piece of scrap held over the heater
for 2 minutes. Squeezed them and measured them, although the results were
obvious: Unheated rivets squeezed to 0.187" on average and heated ones
squeezed to 0.125". which was about the same as the gap I had set the
squeezer for with no resistance. So with a couple turns of the adjustable
set holder, they might have squeezed even shorter. Definitely weakened by
the heat.
So I replaced all the rivets on the tip rib as well as all the ones on
bottom skin from the last 2 ribs out including those on the spars. About
66 rivets in all. Several of them on the bottom of the tip rib drilled out
really easily. Drill down, break off the head & they just popped right
out, no problem at all. The rest of the rivets, along the spars, the top
of the tip rib and the second rib from the end gave the usual degree of
difficulty.
It's winter. It's cold in some parts of the country. Keep those propane
heaters away from your work!
Richard Scott
RV-9A
Finally starting wings!
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| Subject: | Re: Skytec Flyweight Starter question |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Scott VanArtsdalen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott VanArtsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>
>Just starting my condition inspection and noticed something on my Skytec
>starter. It has a bit of grease seeping out of the main housing. Sorry
>I don't know the technical terms for these things. It looks like it's
>made about 3 or 4 big drips of grease into my lower cowling. Is this
>something I can just tighten up or does it warrant further
>investigation? I'm going to take some pictures next time I'm out there.
>
Send Les Staples an email ..... he'll get you all the info you need to
fix your problem, if there is one. He's at lstaples@itexas.net.
Good luck,
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: first new RV flight in 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
We are envious of your accomplishment. We all want to join you. Way to go.
You the man.
Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker"
Evansville, Indiana (just north of western Kentucky)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
"Merle V. Prusia" <gold.winger@verizon.net>; "Lawrence, Jeffrey A"
<jeffrey.a.lawrence@boeing.com>; "Mark Phillips" <mphill@gcctv.com>; "Robert
Wade" <wade_usmc@msn.com>; "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>; "Brent Smith"
<stuntpilot@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RV-List: first new RV flight in 2005
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club"
<sisson@consolidated.net>
>
> do not archive
>
> Was I the first new RV to fly in 2005? serial number 20762 If not,
> speak up and I will gladly concede....
> Here is a web site with the pix..
> http://www.litchfieldil.com/members/airport/
> Today, our wx here was crappy, just like yesterday. When I woke up this
> morning the awos was reporting 1/2 and 200 feet.... I went back to
> sleep........
> Finally got up and took my usual Sunday mornig trip to a daughters house
> for breakfast.......
> Kept calling awos and there was a slight rise in conditions... Hmmm.
>
> I got back to the airport at about 11:45 or so and rolled the plane out.
> At that time we had about 2200 and 7 or 8 miles.
> Someone said if I didnt fly now, we were going to get rained
> on.......... 'nuff said...
> I gave it a final going over and jumped in, started it up and taxied out..
> Run-up was routine, all things checked out good and it was time to
> go........
> Lined her up and squeezed in the power. (180hp with Sensenich 85 inch)
> This baby doesn't rev much at static or slow speeds.. I kept the tail a
> little low and I was off in perhaps 5 or 6 hundred feet (maybe less or
> more). I was off the ground at about 12:15 CST
>
> Cloud bottoms were about 2000 feet and wx was slowly deteriorating. In
> level flight turning 2450 to 2500, I indicated about 180 on both the
> Dynon and a regular Airspeed indicator.. Oil temp climbed up to about
> 180 and leveled off. When taxi-ing in, the oil temp was slowly climbing
> up and was up to 190. I think it was not going to go much higher. I have
> an old used Stewart Warner oil cooler.
> I was concerned some about the closness of the exhaust pipe bends to the
> cowling so I installed the aluminum sticky back foil. The cowling was
> not even warm. But yesterday, after a 3 minute full power runup, the
> cowling did heat up a little. Now I know it is not going to be a problem.
> Stall speed with full flaps was about 52 or 53 indicated. I didnt do a
> flaps up stall yet. Weather was closing in on me so I couldn't do all I
> wanted to do...
> I was flying with about 13 or 14 gallons fuel in right side and just a
> couple gallons in left side.
> I had some heavy right wing which may be result of most fuel on right
> side. I also needed a very small amout of "left" rudder, almost none at
> all. Upper and lower intersection fairings are not installed on it yet.
> Actually I don't even have any yet.... Maybe when these are bought and
> installed it will be in trim. Maybe it will trim up with the gear leg
> fairings..
> It all ended too soon. Look at the Pictures on the above website.
> Yes it is an Ugly RV but it will get painted next Spring. Look how short
> it looks with that gray cowling and nose. Hopefully I will have it at
> Sun and Fun...Look for the Ugly duckling down there...
> Bob Urban said there are no ugly RV's...
> This plane was originally started by Merle Prussia in Monroe, Washington
> in early 1990's I bought it and started working on it in 1998. For a
> couple of years things werent happening. Then I figured it out. I was
> spending too much time reading emails and not enought time working on
> the airplane. I bet if there was no internet, there would be a lot of
> RV's flying.
> If you go to the website above "pilot information" and look at the
> Pitt's in the picture above the airport , that is the engine that is in
> this RV. Yep, now I have two airplanes and only one engine.
>
> Is anyone interested in a flyin here next year? This airport has room to
> tie down a bunch of RV's, Tailwinds, Mustang II's and T-18's, in the
> grass.(yes, Pitt's and Eagles too) There is room to camp and motels and
> restaurants are all real close by. Look at Jim Wright's map We have a
> courtesy car plus pilots who will take peoeple where they need to go.
> We might even be able to mooch some fuel from the airport authority for
> homebuilts and small sport-planes, especially if anyone wanted to give
> Young Eagle rides. At least we will work out a discounted fuel price if
> there is any interest in this...
>
> One of the local RV owners said he would kick in a keg of beer ( didn't
> you Keith Hedrick) and we can get a hillbilly to cook a whole hog.
> This would all be free. Another RV guy will play the banjo and drag
> down a bunch of blue grass jammers ( won't you Mark Phillips from
> Williamsville?)
> There are two Mark Phillips who get on the list...
>
> Just a thought, but this woiuld be a good cooling down week-end trip for
> next Summer or Fall.. We could start it on a Friday afternoon and finish
> up on Sunday....
>
> Phil in Litchfield, IL
>
> do not archive
>
>
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<perryrhoads@ctnet.net>, "Ray Dorf" <rdorf@motion.net>
| Subject: | Re: first new RV flight in 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Hedrick OD" <khedrick@frontiernet.net>
Phil
Congrats on your flight. It was a beautiful sight.
And that is an affirmative on the cerveza, one for sure, two if we need
them.
Keith in Litchfield, IL - 3LF
RV 6
do not archive
>SNIP>
> Is anyone interested in a flyin here next year? This airport has room to
> tie down a bunch of RV's, Tailwinds, Mustang II's and T-18's, in the
> grass.(yes, Pitt's and Eagles too) There is room to camp and motels and
> restaurants are all real close by. Look at Jim Wright's map We have a
> courtesy car plus pilots who will take peoeple where they need to go.
> We might even be able to mooch some fuel from the airport authority for
> homebuilts and small sport-planes, especially if anyone wanted to give
> Young Eagle rides. At least we will work out a discounted fuel price if
> there is any interest in this...
>
> One of the local RV owners said he would kick in a keg of beer ( didn't
> you Keith Hedrick) and we can get a hillbilly to cook a whole hog.
> This would all be free. Another RV guy will play the banjo and drag
> down a bunch of blue grass jammers ( won't you Mark Phillips from
> Williamsville?)
> There are two Mark Phillips who get on the list...
>
> Just a thought, but this woiuld be a good cooling down week-end trip for
> next Summer or Fall.. We could start it on a Friday afternoon and finish
> up on Sunday....
>
> Phil in Litchfield, IL
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tru Track auto pilots |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dale Mitchell <dfm4290@yahoo.com>
Try SteinAir
http://www.steinair.com/home.htm
Dale Mitchell
--- George Steube <at6c@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "George Steube"
> <at6c@bellsouth.net>
>
> I would like to know who found the best prices on
> Tru-Track autopilots and
> where. Also, who provided good service? Thanks.
> George
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: first new RV flight in 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 01/02/2005 5:47:48 PM Central Standard Time,
sisson@consolidated.net writes:
There are two Mark Phillips who get on the list...
>>>
hhhhmmmmmmmm................. sounds like a party- maybe I could drag the axe
out of the basement and toss it in the back of the RV...
Columbia TN Mark Phillips -6A, 144 hours & maybe not nekkid much longer? do
not archive
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| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Scott,
According to the SACRAMENTO SKYRANCH ENGINEERING MANUAL, the Lycoming
engines distort almost 1/4" while running. 3/16" of this takes place in the
crankcases. The other 1/16" is due to expansion of each cylinder head as it
is stressed by the compression stroke of the engine. I think that it is for
this reason that the vertical baffles are not one solid piece.
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
>
>One thing that no one has addressed that may be part of the problem is the
>change in the space between the mounting holes on the cooler as a result of
>temperature changes.
>With an all-aluminum body, I wonder if the cooler is expanding more than the
>structure that it's attached to.
>For instance, the baffle sidewalls that fit around the valve covers are not
>one piece, they interweave where they meet between the two cylinder heads, I
>would think this is solely to accomodate the changing dimensions of the
>engine as the heads heat up.
>Scott in VancouveRV-6, 167 hours
>back in the air early November after 5-month repair!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wayne Sweet" <w_sweet@comcast.net>
>To: <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>; <SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com>;
><rv-list@matronics.com>; <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Sweet" <w_sweet@comcast.net>
> >
> > Dan,
> > Looks like you may have vibration problems. Have you had the prop/engine
> > dynamically balance? If not that would be a good thing to do. Can't
> > believe normal stress (unless the mounting is out of alignment somehow)
> > did that.
> > Don't blame it on Van's design. Four bolts should be enough, UNLESS it is
> > under high vibration or mis-alignment stress.
> > Wayne
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dan Checkoway
> > To: SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com ; vansairforce@yahoogroups.com ;
> > rv-list@matronics.com ; RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:17 PM
> > Subject: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure
> >
> >
> > As you may recall, I had a few bad baffle cracks early on. I'm happy to
> > report that my latest baffle/brace design seems to be rock solid.
> > However...last night, when doing an oil change, I noticed that my oil
> > cooler
> > flanges all but self-destructed. The oil cooler flanges have become the
> > weak link in the chain. Photos here:
> >
> > http://www.rvproject.com/20041229.html (bottom of page)
> >
> > I blindly followed "the plans" (FWF DWG OP-27) when installing my oil
> > cooler, and while I don't normally criticize the amazing job Van's has
> > done,
> > this is one area where the plans are definitely leading "newbies" like me
> > astray. I take full responsibility for what happened, but you might want
> > to
> > check your installation if you followed the drawing blindly like I did.
> >
> > Here's the end result, including the modifications I made (that probably
> > MANY less ignorant people have already made) in order to make the
> > installation robust.
> >
> > http://www.rvproject.com/20041230.html
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> > )_( Dan
> > RV-7 N714D
> > http://www.rvproject.com
> >
> >
> > Online help on this group at:
> > http://help.yahoo.com/help/groups/
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: first new RV flight in 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Ed Anderson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
>Congratulations, Phil! Regardless of whether the first in 05, a great
>accomplishment.
>Remember, there are NO ugly RVs, just some with more cosmetic enhancement
>than others {:>)
>
>Ed Anderson
>Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>Matthews, NC
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>; "Keith Hedrick OD" <khedrick@frontiernet.net>;
>"Merle V. Prusia" <gold.winger@verizon.net>; "Lawrence, Jeffrey A"
><jeffrey.a.lawrence@boeing.com>; "Mark Phillips" <mphill@gcctv.com>; "Robert
>Wade" <wade_usmc@msn.com>; "Bob U." <rv3@comcast.net>; "Brent Smith"
><stuntpilot@worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: RV-List: first new RV flight in 2005
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club"
>>
>>
><sisson@consolidated.net>
>
>
>>do not archive
>>
>>Was I the first new RV to fly in 2005? serial number 20762 If not,
>>speak up and I will gladly concede....
>>Here is a web site with the pix..
>>http://www.litchfieldil.com/members/airport/
>>Today, our wx here was crappy, just like yesterday. When I woke up this
>>morning the awos was reporting 1/2 and 200 feet.... I went back to
>>sleep........
>>Finally got up and took my usual Sunday mornig trip to a daughters house
>>for breakfast.......
>>Kept calling awos and there was a slight rise in conditions... Hmmm.
>>
>>I got back to the airport at about 11:45 or so and rolled the plane out.
>>At that time we had about 2200 and 7 or 8 miles.
>>Someone said if I didnt fly now, we were going to get rained
>>on.......... 'nuff said...
>>I gave it a final going over and jumped in, started it up and taxied out..
>>Run-up was routine, all things checked out good and it was time to
>>go........
>>Lined her up and squeezed in the power. (180hp with Sensenich 85 inch)
>>This baby doesn't rev much at static or slow speeds.. I kept the tail a
>>little low and I was off in perhaps 5 or 6 hundred feet (maybe less or
>>more). I was off the ground at about 12:15 CST
>>
>>Cloud bottoms were about 2000 feet and wx was slowly deteriorating. In
>>level flight turning 2450 to 2500, I indicated about 180 on both the
>>Dynon and a regular Airspeed indicator.. Oil temp climbed up to about
>>180 and leveled off. When taxi-ing in, the oil temp was slowly climbing
>>up and was up to 190. I think it was not going to go much higher. I have
>>an old used Stewart Warner oil cooler.
>>I was concerned some about the closness of the exhaust pipe bends to the
>>cowling so I installed the aluminum sticky back foil. The cowling was
>>not even warm. But yesterday, after a 3 minute full power runup, the
>>cowling did heat up a little. Now I know it is not going to be a problem.
>>Stall speed with full flaps was about 52 or 53 indicated. I didnt do a
>>flaps up stall yet. Weather was closing in on me so I couldn't do all I
>>wanted to do...
>>I was flying with about 13 or 14 gallons fuel in right side and just a
>>couple gallons in left side.
>>I had some heavy right wing which may be result of most fuel on right
>>side. I also needed a very small amout of "left" rudder, almost none at
>>all. Upper and lower intersection fairings are not installed on it yet.
>>Actually I don't even have any yet.... Maybe when these are bought and
>>installed it will be in trim. Maybe it will trim up with the gear leg
>>fairings..
>>It all ended too soon. Look at the Pictures on the above website.
>>Yes it is an Ugly RV but it will get painted next Spring. Look how short
>>it looks with that gray cowling and nose. Hopefully I will have it at
>>Sun and Fun...Look for the Ugly duckling down there...
>>Bob Urban said there are no ugly RV's...
>>This plane was originally started by Merle Prussia in Monroe, Washington
>>in early 1990's I bought it and started working on it in 1998. For a
>>couple of years things werent happening. Then I figured it out. I was
>>spending too much time reading emails and not enought time working on
>>the airplane. I bet if there was no internet, there would be a lot of
>>RV's flying.
>>If you go to the website above "pilot information" and look at the
>>Pitt's in the picture above the airport , that is the engine that is in
>>this RV. Yep, now I have two airplanes and only one engine.
>>
>>Is anyone interested in a flyin here next year? This airport has room to
>>tie down a bunch of RV's, Tailwinds, Mustang II's and T-18's, in the
>>grass.(yes, Pitt's and Eagles too) There is room to camp and motels and
>>restaurants are all real close by. Look at Jim Wright's map We have a
>>courtesy car plus pilots who will take peoeple where they need to go.
>>We might even be able to mooch some fuel from the airport authority for
>>homebuilts and small sport-planes, especially if anyone wanted to give
>>Young Eagle rides. At least we will work out a discounted fuel price if
>>there is any interest in this...
>>
>>One of the local RV owners said he would kick in a keg of beer ( didn't
>>you Keith Hedrick) and we can get a hillbilly to cook a whole hog.
>>This would all be free. Another RV guy will play the banjo and drag
>>down a bunch of blue grass jammers ( won't you Mark Phillips from
>>Williamsville?)
>>There are two Mark Phillips who get on the list...
>>
>>Just a thought, but this woiuld be a good cooling down week-end trip for
>>next Summer or Fall.. We could start it on a Friday afternoon and finish
>>up on Sunday....
>>
>>Phil in Litchfield, IL
>>
>>do not archive
>>
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Thanks alot Ed,
Wish I had more good weather today. Maybe later in the week..
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: first new RV flight in 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 01/02/2005 5:47:48 PM Central Standard Time,
>sisson@consolidated.net writes:
>There are two Mark Phillips who get on the list...
>
>
>hhhhmmmmmmmm................. sounds like a party- maybe I could drag the axe
>out of the basement and toss it in the back of the RV...
>
>Columbia TN Mark Phillips -6A, 144 hours & maybe not nekkid much longer? do
>not archive
>
>
>
Ten four on two Mark Phillips..... Williamsville Mark is building 6
Taildragger and getting close . If he would stay away from the Banjo, he
would get it finished.......
My 6 has 2.1 hours on it now and 1.1 is ground time. It is going to be
Nekkid until at least late Springtime.....
Phil
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: [VAF Mailing List] Oil Cooler Flange Failure |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:29:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jayeandscott@telus.net writes:
For instance, the baffle sidewalls that fit around the valve covers are not
one piece, they interweave where they meet between the two cylinder heads, I
would think this is solely to accommodate the changing dimensions of the
engine as the heads heat up.
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Actually, the need for baffles configured in this way has less to do with
thermal expansion and much more to do with accommodating the rather large
mechanical excursions that occur out at the ends of the individual aircraft engine
cylinders resulting from the forces of turning the combustion event into
rotary motion.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Strakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi Stu,
Thanks for the info. I think I'll do it like you did and fly first to
see how it feels, and then add them later. Five knots is too much to
just leave on the table!
Best regards, and happy new year,
Mickey
> That would be me. I did install strakes on my RV-8. I flew it first without
them
> and documented my airspeeds and that I did indeed have significant 'tail shake'
> prior to the stall. It is caused by the dirty air in a near stall coming around
> the fuselage/landing gear just under the leading edge, and with no energy the
wing
> does not streamline the air, so it hits the horzontal Stab and shakes it about
an
> inch at the tip. I installed some Cessna 414 engine nacelle strakes (I bought
at
> Robertson in Arlington WA) on the fuselage in front of and above the leading
edge.
> Next flight there was NO tail shake and NO prestall buffet. In documenting changes
> after installation, I saw no top end penalty and a 5 knot reduction in stall
speed.
> Worked for me.
>
> This mod is not for everyone in that the prestall buffet is gone. If one needs
> that buffet to let them know he are close to stall, he should not install them.
>
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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Wiring
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