---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/11/05: 35 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:50 AM - Gear Tower Mod (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 2. 05:08 AM - Re: Gear Tower Mod (PSILeD@aol.com) 3. 05:26 AM - Re: Gear Tower Mod (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 4. 06:09 AM - Re: battery charging (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 5. 07:38 AM - Re: battery charging (Sam Buchanan) 6. 08:55 AM - Now THIS is an idea! (Amit Dagan) 7. 11:16 AM - Re: battery charging () 8. 01:05 PM - Day VFR to Night VFR Operating Limitations (Matthew Brandes) 9. 01:05 PM - Re: canopy bow drag (Doug Rozendaal) 10. 01:20 PM - Re: Day VFR to Night VFR Operating Limitations (Bryan Jones) 11. 01:35 PM - Re: canopy bow drag (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 12. 02:18 PM - Re: canopy bow drag (linn walters) 13. 02:39 PM - Re: RV-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 01/08/05 Cooling Air (PSPRV6A@aol.com) 14. 02:53 PM - Re: canopy bow drag (Scott Jackson) 15. 03:01 PM - Re: Day VFR to Night VFR Operating Limitations (Mike Robertson) 16. 03:46 PM - Garmin 430 memory power (Mitch Faatz) 17. 04:12 PM - Re: Garmin 430 memory power (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 18. 04:32 PM - Garmin 430 fun fact (Alex Peterson) 19. 05:04 PM - Re: battery charging (Bill Dube) 20. 05:07 PM - Re: Garmin 430 fun fact (smoothweasel@juno.com) 21. 05:25 PM - Plenum Pics (John Furey) 22. 05:25 PM - Re: Now THIS is an idea! (Todd Bartrim) 23. 05:37 PM - canopy bow drag (Larry James) 24. 05:45 PM - Re: Now THIS is an idea! (John Furey) 25. 05:54 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (John Spicer) 26. 06:01 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (Bob Black) 27. 06:19 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (John Spicer) 28. 06:23 PM - Re: Garmin 430 fun fact (James Freeman) 29. 06:30 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 30. 06:40 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (John Furey) 31. 06:46 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (John Furey) 32. 07:04 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (Kathleen (rv7)) 33. 07:09 PM - Re: Plenum Pics (Kathleen (rv7)) 34. 08:39 PM - double countersunk rivnut (Brian Kraut) 35. 08:43 PM - Attaching flaps (Greg@itmack) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:17 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Gear Tower Mod From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" With the talk of trouble with the gear bolts and access, I thought Id show you a mod I made that takes care of this problem. Bottom of this page is a link to my Gear Tower Mod that shows a simple solution to the access. This has not been flight tested. http://www.mstewart.net/super8/interesting.htm Mike S8 canopy Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:18 AM PST US From: PSILeD@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Tower Mod --> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:51:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, mstewart@iss.net writes: http://www.mstewart.net/super8/interesting.htm Mike, Have you decided whether or not you need me to make a cable for you? No rush on my part, just wondering. Paul Falcon Field D30 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:20 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Tower Mod From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" Yes I was waiting on the cable. Though you had to order parts or something. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PSILeD@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Tower Mod --> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:51:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, mstewart@iss.net writes: http://www.mstewart.net/super8/interesting.htm Mike, Have you decided whether or not you need me to make a cable for you? No rush on my part, just wondering. Paul Falcon Field D30 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:03 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: battery charging --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 1/11/05 3:39:37 AM Central Standard Time, 1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net writes: > >So I take it you would not recommend keeping a "float" type charger on > >whenever the plane is in the hangar? > >>>>>> I got one of these two years ago and it works fine on my Panasonic 20Ah RGM battery. I've never left it on for extended periods (nor anything else in the hangar) but the description indicates this wouldn't be a problem. My battery hardly discharges and I've never found it too low to crank the plane in over a year of use, even after not being cranked for over a month. Mostly just used the charger during final assembly while I was doing a lot of circuit & instrument testing before first engine start. http://store.azmusa.com/azmotorsports/batejr12v.html Works great, still $20+shipping From The PossumWorks in TN Mark ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:53 AM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: battery charging --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com > > In a message dated 1/11/05 3:39:37 AM Central Standard Time, > 1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net writes: > > >>>So I take it you would not recommend keeping a "float" type charger on >>>whenever the plane is in the hangar? >> > > I got one of these two years ago and it works fine on my Panasonic 20Ah RGM > battery. I've never left it on for extended periods (nor anything else in the > hangar) but the description indicates this wouldn't be a problem. My battery > hardly discharges and I've never found it too low to crank the plane in over a > year of use, even after not being cranked for over a month. Mostly just used > the charger during final assembly while I was doing a lot of circuit & > instrument testing before first engine start. > > http://store.azmusa.com/azmotorsports/batejr12v.html > > Works great, still $20+shipping > >>From The PossumWorks in TN > Mark Dittos on the Battery Tender, Jr. on a Panasonic RG battery. I have an iPAQ in the plane that stays hooked up to the bus fulltime (the iPAQ's battery has expired and it costs too much to replace it). The charger pigtail is near the oil filler door along with the oil sump heater plug and both run continuously during the winter months. Sam Buchanan http://thervjournal.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:46 AM PST US From: "Amit Dagan" Subject: RV-List: Now THIS is an idea! --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" If you don't like being tangled with your headset wires in the cockpit, check this out: http://www.aveousa.com/avionics/intercom/ Only in "Beta" testing right now, but if this really works, I'd say this is something worth considering! While on the subject of headsets, the latest "wave" seems to be non-ANR sets, based on the elegant idea that if you manage to keep the noise from entering the ear in the first place, then there is nothing to cancel with reverse-phase-sound-waves. The new sets are based on tiny speakers that are attached to a foam-like ear plug. the EAR(tm) plugs have an NRR of ~30dB, which is close to that of some high end ANR sets. You get quiteness and a VERY lightweight set. The difficulty seams to be in inserting the ear plugs into your ears for them to work right, but practice makes perfect. See if you can find any differences between the AuriComm at http://www.quiettechnologies.com/ and the L1 at http://www.anrheadsets.com/productsL1.asp The only difference I found was $100. According to Phil McCandless at QT, they make the L1s for Lightspeed... I have not tried any of these, nor do I get paid to ramble about them. Personally I like my passive peltors with regular yellow earplugs combination, cranking the intercom volume up all the way. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:35 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: battery charging --> RV-List message posted by: If you have one of the new generation batteries, I think you will find the following info of practical use: Manufacture literature for SLI or VRLA (valve regulated lead acid) batteries: charger selections, charging rates-normal-fast, discharge rates, pulse discharge (cranking), storage, specs and design info like impact/shock and temp limits. http://www.batterymart.com/pdf_files/odyssey_guide.pdf Another detail doc of charging charicteristics for SLI / VRLA batteries: http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/Panasonic_VRLA_ChargingMethods.pdf A short text on the battery operation, cautions and charging: http://www.odysseybatteries.com/charging.htm Cheers G ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:23 PM PST US From: "Matthew Brandes" Subject: RV-List: Day VFR to Night VFR Operating Limitations --> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" If I construct my plane to operate Daytime VFR and later add the appropriate equipment for Night VFR, what if anything is required from a paperwork point of view? When I'm issued the Operating Limitations, it would say Day VFR only. How would you get that changed to read Day/Night VFR? Matthew Brandes, Van's RV-9A (Finish Kit) EAA Chapter 868/91/1329 www.n523rv.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:40 PM PST US From: "Doug Rozendaal" Subject: Re: RV-List: canopy bow drag --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry James" > > Hi All, > I'm still deciding between a tip-over and slider canopy. I flew the time off a full scale replica of a P-51 with a Lycoming T-53 Turbo-prop engine and a tip-over canopy. On the airplane's third flight, my second, the canopy came off. You can not imagine what the wind is like at 180 kias. I had a backpack chute, which I strongly considered using, that kept my back away from the seat back and headrest. I had to support my upper body and helmet against the wind. My visor was ripped off, but my glasses remained, and protected my eyes. There were tornados of tears behind the lenses and I could not read anything on the panel. Based on the pitch of the airplane, I felt I was getting slow on final and I put in some power. The most physically demanding thing I have ever done in my life was to hold my head up against the prop wash. I landed without incident, but I am a HUGE fan of fixed windscreens. I fly a -4 with a tipover, and I love the view, but it will probably be the last airplane I own without a fixed windscreen. My recommendation is overwhelming for the slider. Tailwinds Doug Rozendaal ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:16 PM PST US From: "Bryan Jones" Subject: RE: RV-List: Day VFR to Night VFR Operating Limitations --> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" Make sure your Operating Limitations say "day VFR, night VFR and/or IFR in accordance with FAR..." or something to that effect. You can find specific example by searchig the web - and the (D)AE's will want a specific verbage. Bryan Jones >--> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" > >If I construct my plane to operate Daytime VFR and later add the >appropriate >equipment for Night VFR, what if anything is required from a paperwork >point >of view? When I'm issued the Operating Limitations, it would say Day VFR >only. How would you get that changed to read Day/Night VFR? > >Matthew Brandes, >Van's RV-9A (Finish Kit) >EAA Chapter 868/91/1329 >www.n523rv.com > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:46 PM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: Re: RV-List: canopy bow drag --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) I han't ever thought of the issue of seat cushion chute vs. backpack style chute. Interesting. I'd still want the windscreen too but if you had to buy just one chute which style to get? do not archive. -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry James" > > > > Hi All, > > I'm still deciding between a tip-over and slider canopy. > > I flew the time off a full scale replica of a P-51 with a Lycoming T-53 > Turbo-prop engine and a tip-over canopy. On the airplane's third flight, my > second, the canopy came off. You can not imagine what the wind is like at > 180 kias. I had a backpack chute, which I strongly considered using, that > kept my back away from the seat back and headrest. I had to support my > upper body and helmet against the wind. My visor was ripped off, but my > glasses remained, and protected my eyes. There were tornados of tears > behind the lenses and I could not read anything on the panel. Based on the > pitch of the airplane, I felt I was getting slow on final and I put in some > power. The most physically demanding thing I have ever done in my life was > to hold my head up against the prop wash. I landed without incident, but I > am a HUGE fan of fixed windscreens. > > I fly a -4 with a tipover, and I love the view, but it will probably be the > last airplane I own without a fixed windscreen. My recommendation is > overwhelming for the slider. > > Tailwinds > Doug Rozendaal > > > > > > I han't ever thought of the issue of seat cushion chute vs. backpack style chute. Interesting. I'd still want the windscreen too but if you had to buy just one chute which style to get? do not archive. -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" -- RV-List message posted by: "Larry James" Hi All, I'm still deciding between a tip-over and slider canopy. I flew the time off a full scale replica of a P-51 with a Lycoming T-53 Turbo-prop engine and a tip-over canopy. On the airplane's third flight, my second, the canopy came off. You can not imagine what the wind is like at 180 kias. I had a backpack chute, which I strongly considered using, that kept my back away from the seat back and headrest. I had to support my upper body and helmet against the wind. My visor was ripped off, but my glasses remained, and protected my eyes. There were tornados of tears behind the lenses and I could not read anything on the panel. Based on the pitch of the airplane, I felt I was getting slow on final and I put in some power. The most physically demanding thing I have ever done in my life was to hold my head up against the prop wash. I landed without incident, but I am a HUGE fan of fixed windscreens. I fly a -4 with a tipover, and I love the view, but it will probably be the last airplane I own without a fixed windscreen. My recommendation is overwhelming for the slider. Tailwinds Doug Rozendaal he Matronics Forums. ======================================== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:24 PM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: canopy bow drag --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters lucky wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) > >I han't ever thought of the issue of seat cushion chute vs. backpack style chute. Interesting. > >I'd still want the windscreen too but if you had to buy just one chute which style to get? > >do not archive. > Lucky, it all depends on how you and the 'chute will fit in the airplane. A backpack will push you forward, closer to the panel and the stick, and the seat pack will raise you up in the cockpit ..... closer to the canopy. Both types will save your bacon if you need to use it, so it all boils down to ergonomics. Oh yeah, the seat pack makes for a very hard seat that no cusion will take care of! Linn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:13 PM PST US From: PSPRV6A@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 33 Msgs - 01/08/05 Cooling Air --> RV-List message posted by: PSPRV6A@aol.com It's easy to get this all backwards. When high velocity air comes in thru the cowling "nostrils" it enters a diffuser section where the velocity drops and the STATIC PRESSURE RISES! This static pressure is what drives the air down through the cylinder fins. It is also this pressure which forces air though the oil cooler. The tradeoff from dynamic to static pressure is not total as there remains a small velocity component. This is why the upper cowling is shaped like a diffuser, to recover pressure from the relative velocity of the incoming air. Paul S. Petersen, RV6A (with son Eric) 90% done 20% to go ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:53:18 PM PST US From: "Scott Jackson" Subject: Re: RV-List: canopy bow drag --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" And a chair-pack will do less of both.... Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "linn walters" Subject: Re: RV-List: canopy bow drag > --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters > > lucky wrote: > >>--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) >> >>I han't ever thought of the issue of seat cushion chute vs. backpack style >>chute. Interesting. >> >>I'd still want the windscreen too but if you had to buy just one chute >>which style to get? >> >>do not archive. >> > Lucky, it all depends on how you and the 'chute will fit in the > airplane. A backpack will push you forward, closer to the panel and the > stick, and the seat pack will raise you up in the cockpit ..... closer > to the canopy. Both types will save your bacon if you need to use it, > so it all boils down to ergonomics. Oh yeah, the seat pack makes for a > very hard seat that no cusion will take care of! > Linn > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:01:48 PM PST US From: "Mike Robertson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Day VFR to Night VFR Operating Limitations --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" Mat, It may not say VFR only. Most all the current versions of the Operating Limitations have wording similiar to "Unless appropriately equipped for night and/or IFR, this aircraft is restricted to Day VFR." That means that you, the pilot, make the decision. Of course, that decision is based on the pilot's knowledge FAR 91.205, right?? If, at the time of certification, the Operating Limitations do state that the aircraft is restricted to Day VFR, then you can ask the inspector to change the wording to align with the requirements of FAA Order 8130.2F. If you have any quesitons drop me an email directly and I will see what I can do. Mike Robertson Das Fed >From: "Matthew Brandes" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RV-List: Day VFR to Night VFR Operating Limitations >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:04:18 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" > >If I construct my plane to operate Daytime VFR and later add the >appropriate >equipment for Night VFR, what if anything is required from a paperwork >point >of view? When I'm issued the Operating Limitations, it would say Day VFR >only. How would you get that changed to read Day/Night VFR? > >Matthew Brandes, >Van's RV-9A (Finish Kit) >EAA Chapter 868/91/1329 >www.n523rv.com > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:26 PM PST US From: "Mitch Faatz" Subject: RV-List: Garmin 430 memory power --> RV-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" I've seen several messages in the archives referring to hooking up some power pins on the Garmin 430 to an always-on bus for frequency memory retention, which 1) strikes me as odd that the 430 would need that and 2) don't see any references to this in the Garmin installation manual. Who knows the real deal here? Mitch Faatz RV-6A Finish Kit Auburn, CA ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 430 memory power From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" Not required. Mike --- Original Message --- From: "Mitch Faatz" Subject: RV-List: Garmin 430 memory power --> RV-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" I've seen several messages in the archives referring to hooking up some power pins on the Garmin 430 to an always-on bus for frequency memory retention, which 1) strikes me as odd that the 430 would need that and 2) don't see any references to this in the Garmin installation manual. Who knows the real deal here? Mitch Faatz RV-6A Finish Kit Auburn, CA ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:39 PM PST US From: "Alex Peterson" Subject: RV-List: Garmin 430 fun fact --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" I recently looked at the page on my 430 which shows total miles flown, average speed, etc. What seems interesting is that it shows maximum ground speed attained is 288 knots. I'm really sure that hasn't happened, but I'm curious as to how it would have gotten that number. For a couple years, it showed 228 knot, a reasonable number. Alex Peterson RV6-A 566 hours Maple Grove, MN http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:53 PM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: Re: RV-List: battery charging --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube At 01:01 AM 1/11/2005 -0600, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net> > >Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote: > > >So I take it you would not recommend keeping a "float" type charger on > >whenever the plane is in the hangar? > > > > >I don't know how dangerous leaving a lead acid battery on float charge >is, but I have read that if you do leave it on float charge you need to >be sure the charge voltage is no more than 13.8V for a 12V battery. Any >higher and it will damage the battery. That may be why the tractor >battery Dan Hopper mentioned had an untimely demise. For a cycle >charge, the charge voltage can be as high as 15V. That is correct. An inexpensive "dumb" charger can go to too high of a voltage. The float voltage is dependant on temperature, but Hawker recommends 13.6 volts for their AGM batteries. I should note that in general, AGMs have very low self-discharge rates. That is, they stay charged pretty long on the shelf. Thus, if there is no draw (like for the memory in your radio) you would only need to top off your AGM two or three times per year, perhaps less. Here is a link to some useful technical information about Hawker batteries: http://www.rosebatteries.com/whitepapers/hawker_whitepaper.html ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 430 fun fact From: smoothweasel@juno.com --> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com It is like this Alex...........Do you remember that time you split S on a botched high speed roll? HAHA just kidding. Weasel do not archive What seems interesting is that it shows maximum > ground > speed attained is 288 knots. I'm really sure that hasn't happened, > but I'm > curious as to how it would have gotten that number. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:02 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Several people have asked for pictures of my plenum. If I have missed anyone please let me know or maybe someone can take them and post them. I would be happy to answer any questions. Thanks John Furey RV6A O-320 300 hrs ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:02 PM PST US From: "Todd Bartrim" Subject: RE: RV-List: Now THIS is an idea! --> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" I have a set of the Auricomm's and I love 'em. Very lightweight and comfortable, great sound, easy to forget that I'm wearing them. I'd never go back to a set of heavy, sweaty muffs squeezing my head. They do take a little practice to learn the easy way to insert them so that the mike boom is perfect, but it's easy to do. The only time they were a little bit of a pain was while taxi testing, when I was climbing in & out of the plane. Todd Bartrim RV9Endurance 13B Turbo Rotary C-FSTB "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard work and determination to the things they do." See if you can find any differences between the AuriComm at http://www.quiettechnologies.com/ and the L1 at http://www.anrheadsets.com/productsL1.asp The only difference I found was $100. According to Phil McCandless at QT, they make the L1s for Lightspeed... I have not tried any of these, nor do I get paid to ramble about them. Personally I like my passive peltors with regular yellow earplugs combination, cranking the intercom volume up all the way. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:07 PM PST US From: "Larry James" "RV List" Subject: RV-List: canopy bow drag --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry James" Thanks for the input so far! Pro's for the tip over: simple light better visibility easier ingress/egress Pro's for the slider: safety in fixed windscreen (thanks Doug) safety in stronger windscreen (my original reason for exploring this option) cool factor (well, it does count; doesn't it?) My reasoning so far goes like this: I think I can build a slider with very little to no weight penalty to a tip-over; and I like having that fixed windscreen in case of a bird strike; and I have significantly changed my cockpit layout such that ingress/egress to the pilot would be fine with the slider. I also think I can build the canopy bow to minimize visibility impairment and drag (all composite bow and canopy frame/skirt). So far the slider is winning. Any more input ?? cheers, Larry E. James Bellevue, WA HR2 fuselage/systems ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:45:18 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Now THIS is an idea! --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I purchased a pair of Clarity Aloft head sets that are very similar at OSH. I find them very comfortable and use them more than my Bose X. www.clarityaloft.com John Rv6A ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:18 PM PST US From: "John Spicer" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Spicer" >Several people have asked for pictures of my plenum. If I have missed anyone >please let me know or maybe someone can take them and post them. I would be >happy to answer any questions. and Ill put them up in my gallery. -- John www.rivetbangers.com - A marriage of web and email. No ads, just builders www.spikesplace.org/cgi-php/serendipity - Build Log --- ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:51 PM PST US From: "Bob Black" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Black" John Furey's plenum pictures can be downloaded at http://rv7.us/plenum/ Thanks John Kathleen Evans www.rv7.us do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Furey Subject: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Several people have asked for pictures of my plenum. If I have missed anyone please let me know or maybe someone can take them and post them. I would be happy to answer any questions. Thanks John Furey RV6A O-320 300 hrs ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:21 PM PST US From: "John Spicer" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Spicer" Done. John's plenum pictures may be found at: http://www.rivetbangers.com/cgi-php/gallery/inprogress/johnFureysPlenum3 http://www.rivetbangers.com/cgi-php/gallery/inprogress/johnFureysPlenum2 http://www.rivetbangers.com/cgi-php/gallery/inprogress/johnFureysPlenum1 Beautiful work John, it looks excellent! -- John RV-9A 91074 www.rivetbangers.com - Building more than RV's www.spikesplace.org/cgi-php/serendipity - Builder's Log --- ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:20 PM PST US From: James Freeman Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 430 fun fact --> RV-List message posted by: James Freeman On Jan 11, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Alex Peterson wrote: (snip) > I recently looked at the page on my 430 which shows total miles flown, > average speed, etc. What seems interesting is that it shows maximum > ground > speed attained is 288 knots. I'm really sure that hasn't happened, > but I'm > curious as to how it would have gotten that number. (snip) This recently came up on the Cirrus forum, because most of the airplanes are set up to datalog (engine, airdata, and GPS coordinates) every 6 seconds and store about forty hours worth of data. Several people noticed that the airplanes seemed to have made some _very_ quick trips to Kansas and back. It turns out the the generic "startup" waypoint in the GNS430 corresponds to the Garmin factory in Kansas ("GARMN") Occasionally this gets logged as an actual position, depending on how fast the unit acquires a fix, and how fast the datalogger boots. do not archive ;-) ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:01 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 01/11/2005 7:26:03 PM Central Standard Time, john@fureychrysler.com writes: John Furey RV6A O-320 300 hrs >>> I see you HAVE tested them- and the survey says? Mark ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:34 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Thanks ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:06 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I would say that they were very effective. Unfortunately I took them off in an act of desperation to get my cyl head temps down only to find the culprit was the casting flash that was a thread on this list about a week later. Cleaning the flashing made about 30 degree difference. JF ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:49 PM PST US From: "Kathleen (rv7)" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" O.K., please stop the emails. I had someone else send this email for me and there was some understandable confusion. Nonetheless, the pictures are out there. Do not archive Kathleen www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Black Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Black" John Furey's plenum pictures can be downloaded at http://rv7.us/plenum/ Thanks John Kathleen Evans www.rv7.us do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Furey Subject: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Several people have asked for pictures of my plenum. If I have missed anyone please let me know or maybe someone can take them and post them. I would be happy to answer any questions. Thanks John Furey RV6A O-320 300 hrs ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:06 PM PST US From: "Kathleen (rv7)" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" Does the absence of usual airflow over the crankcase drive oil temperatures up at all? Kathleen Evans www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Furey Subject: RE: RV-List: Plenum Pics --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I would say that they were very effective. Unfortunately I took them off in an act of desperation to get my cyl head temps down only to find the culprit was the casting flash that was a thread on this list about a week later. Cleaning the flashing made about 30 degree difference. JF ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:12 PM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RV-List: double countersunk rivnut --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" Does anyone make a rivnut that is both countersunk in the back to go in a dimpled hole and also countersunk on the face so you can attach an access plate that is dimpled with a countersunk screw? I was thinking of trying to countersink a regular rivnut, but it doesn't look like there is near enough material on the head to do this. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:06 PM PST US From: "Greg@itmack" Subject: RV-List: Attaching flaps --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg@itmack" Hi all, I'm just about ready to attach my flaps to the wings but I haven't riveted on the bottom skins yet. Is it necessary to rivet the bottom skins on first to accurately drill the flap hinge or can I use a heap of clecoes on the skin. I'd prefer to leave the skins off for as long as possible so I can take longer to decide on wiring and also I haven't got my pitot tube yet (waiting for the heated Dynon). It would be good to drill it out now so I can get on with the countersinking dimpling etc. and then finally prime the flap brace etc. and put it on the shelf until I'm ready to rivet. Also which kit has the NACA duct that is glued/riveted under the wing, it would be nice to put that on now before the skin is riveted on. Greg 82070 RV8