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1. 01:14 AM - Large connector thru firewall (Ron Schreck)
2. 04:42 AM - Re: Large connector thru firewall (Dean Pichon)
3. 07:19 AM - Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Bob Collins)
4. 07:51 AM - Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI (Doug Rozendaal)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Minimum Realistic Field Length (Hull, Don)
6. 08:23 AM - Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI (Maureen & Bob Christensen)
7. 08:42 AM - Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI (Jeff Point)
8. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (JOHN STARN)
9. 09:47 AM - Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
10. 10:05 AM - Re: Minimum Realistic Field Length (Hull, Don)
11. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Kevin Williams)
12. 10:19 AM - Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Scott Bilinski)
13. 10:25 AM - Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI (Bill VonDane)
14. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (rv6tc)
15. 12:00 PM - Heated Pitot (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR)
16. 12:04 PM - RV's and EAA in Georgia... (Bill VonDane)
17. 01:07 PM - Re: RV's and EAA in Georgia... (ray sheffield)
18. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing N654PJ (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
19. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Chuck Jensen)
20. 02:57 PM - Passing fire codes for hangar homes (Jeff Dowling)
21. 03:29 PM - Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes (Kevin Williams)
22. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Kevin Williams)
23. 03:36 PM - Re: Edmonton Alberta (Kevin Williams)
24. 03:39 PM - Re: Orlando RV forced landing (jim & terri truitt)
25. 03:42 PM - Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
26. 03:44 PM - Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI (Dana Overall)
27. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
28. 04:11 PM - Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes (Ted Gauthier)
29. 04:12 PM - Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Tony Sustare)
30. 05:06 PM - new years celebration (linn walters)
31. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Dave Bristol)
32. 06:56 PM - Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes (cgalley)
33. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Larry Olson)
34. 07:00 PM - Garmin iQue 3600a (Jim Jewell)
35. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Scott VanArtsdalen)
36. 08:17 PM - Re: Garmin iQue 3600a (Bud Newhall)
37. 08:50 PM - Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes (Jeff Dowling)
38. 09:18 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing clamav-milter version 0.80j on zoot.lafn.org (Skylor Piper)
39. 10:15 PM - Re: Garmin iQue 3600a (Rob Prior)
40. 10:39 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Gregory Young)
41. 10:58 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (Scott Jackson)
42. 11:08 PM - Re: Re: Orlando RV forced landing (JOHN STARN)
43. 11:37 PM - Re: Cooling Air (j1j2h3@juno.com)
44. 11:37 PM - Re: Leather jacket restoration (j1j2h3@juno.com)
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| Subject: | Large connector thru firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@webkorner.com>
Randy, I had the same problem with my dual Lightspeed EI setup. I went to the
aircraft aisle at Home Depot and got a 1 1/2 inch aluminum electrical conduit
connector. It has slightly over 1 1/2 inch ID and is about 1/8 inch thick casting.
It has a threaded end with a large nut that will attach it to the firewall.
After routing all your wires, tubes, etc., pack it with RTV and wrap the
firewall end with firestop fabric and secure with two hose clamps. I am putting
nearly all of my firewall forward wires through this one hole.
Ron Schreck
RV-8
Gold Hill Airpark, NC
Time: 01:01:57 PM PST US
From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Subject: Large connector thru firewall
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Guys,
I'm afraid my LASAR brain will not fit in the very limited space on the
firewall of the RV-3B I'm building. The good news is that I have plenty of
space just aft of the firewall. In order to mount it aft of the firewall
I'll need to pass the two magneto connectors through the firewall. Looks
like I'll need a 1.5" hole to get them through. Once they are through they
are normal sized wire bundles. I'm scratching my head as to a method of
accomplishing this... the eyeball connectors use a 1.125" hole, those common
grommet w/ss shields only go up to 1.25". Any ideas for other methods?
Randy Lervold
www.rv-3.com
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| Subject: | Large connector thru firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <deanpichon@msn.com>
I would recommend using a bulkhead (firewall) connector. This is a little
more work to install, but is provides much easier removal for subsequent
maintenance/repair. Amphenol make a series of excellent bulkhead
connectors. These connectors have three basic parts - a connector mounted
to the firewall that accepts a plug from either side of firewall, a plug on
the engine side for the Lasar engine wiring, and a plug on the pilot side of
the firewall for the wires from the Lasar "brain". This technique is quite
common on the Lancair series of aircraft as well as many military aircraft.
Good Luck,
Dean
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Subject: RV-List: Large connector thru firewall
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Guys,
I'm afraid my LASAR brain will not fit in the very limited space on the
firewall of the RV-3B I'm building. The good news is that I have plenty of
space just aft of the firewall. In order to mount it aft of the firewall
I'll need to pass the two magneto connectors through the firewall. Looks
like I'll need a 1.5" hole to get them through. Once they are through they
are normal sized wire bundles. I'm scratching my head as to a method of
accomplishing this... the eyeball connectors use a 1.125" hole, those common
grommet w/ss shields only go up to 1.25". Any ideas for other methods?
Randy Lervold
www.rv-3.com
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com>
We checked out this story today with the Minneapolis FSDO. Here's what one
of our reporters sent me.
"The FAA says the hydraulic failure and the bullet hole are unrelated.
Here's another interesting bit: the hole is on the top the wing. They
speculate someone fired a deer rifle in the air and the bullet struck the
plane at "low energy" on the way down."
"Rest of the investigation is being turned over to FBI (haven't heard back
from them yet)."
Regards,
Bob Collins
St. Paul
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| Subject: | Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
All,
I have flown the latest and greatest version of the D-10 software for about
20 hours or so and I now have the confidence in this version to rip out my
vacuum system. I have been holding back because I could have easily pulled
out the Dynon and replaced it with my vacuum gyro in moments. But with 18
months of experience and now that we have a good stable software package I
am ready to make the leap into the land of no vacuum pump. Great Work
Guys!!!!!
That means the DG will go as well. I won't miss it because I have not even
been setting it lately because I don't use it at all.
Now for what I want. I want Dynon to build an HSI. Not a big fancy one
with moving maps and waypoint displays and all that, just a simple HSI that
encorporates GPS switching and ennunciator functions, Approach, enroute and
OBS modes for GPS. An RMI feature would be nice also but not essential so
you could display both VOR and GPS info simaltaneously. Also a feature that
would switch the autopilot driver. VOR, GPS-NAV, GPS Track or Heading bug.
I've seen the Blue Mountain product is coming, and maybe that is the answer,
but I really like the form factor, the customer service, and the display of
the Dynon. I am not sure the folks at Dynon understand how many people
would buy an HSI. Most home builts do not have HSI's and several pilots have
never flown with one, but it is not because they would not love one if they
used it, just because the trainers they learned in did not have one.
This would replace a DG, a VOR Head, a GPS annunciator, any Autopilot
switch gear, and a backup display for the D-10 If they could do this at the
$2000 price point, they would sell like cordwood.
So my objective it make them understand that this would be a big market.
(are you listening Doug Medema?) Everybody pile on.
Tailwinds,
Doug "I wanna a HSI" Rozendaal
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum Realistic Field Length |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
If you haven't bought the property yet, one consideration for a longer strip
might be whether or not you want other pilots to land at your field. Of
course, a short field could also screen out some of the pilots you may not
want to visit you. Does your mother-in-law fly an RV? :)
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Oldsfolks@aol.com [mailto:Oldsfolks@aol.com]
Subject: RV-List: Re: Minimum Realistic Field Length
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Follow Kevins advice and as someone else said , practice on a longer field
to be sure you can do the landing the SAME way every time.
I practiced on an airport with 800' to the turnoff , and when I could stop
by the turn-off , I practiced some more. I fly from our 1100' grass strip
with 150 HP/ wood prop RV-4 - solo only. I think it would get my wife and
me
out BUT those odds aren't good enough to put us at risk.
Be safe and fly happy.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Maureen & Bob Christensen" <mchriste@danvilletelco.net>
Doug,
Sounds a lot like the BMA Lite . . . I agree with you . . . and the BMA
product is not totally proven at this point . . . in fact the G3 version
hasn't shipped yet as far as I know. It does however show a lot of promise
with the ultimate goal is a "TSO'd version" of the Lite at around $3000 with
GPS and nav head function built in, if it works will be one of the best
bargains out there!
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Subject: RV-List: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
> All,
>
> I have flown the latest and greatest version of the D-10 software for
about
> 20 hours or so and I now have the confidence in this version to rip out my
> vacuum system. I have been holding back because I could have easily
pulled
> out the Dynon and replaced it with my vacuum gyro in moments. But with 18
> months of experience and now that we have a good stable software package I
> am ready to make the leap into the land of no vacuum pump. Great Work
> Guys!!!!!
>
> That means the DG will go as well. I won't miss it because I have not
even
> been setting it lately because I don't use it at all.
>
> Now for what I want. I want Dynon to build an HSI. Not a big fancy one
> with moving maps and waypoint displays and all that, just a simple HSI
that
> encorporates GPS switching and ennunciator functions, Approach, enroute
and
> OBS modes for GPS. An RMI feature would be nice also but not essential
so
> you could display both VOR and GPS info simaltaneously. Also a feature
that
> would switch the autopilot driver. VOR, GPS-NAV, GPS Track or Heading
bug.
>
> I've seen the Blue Mountain product is coming, and maybe that is the
answer,
> but I really like the form factor, the customer service, and the display
of
> the Dynon. I am not sure the folks at Dynon understand how many people
> would buy an HSI. Most home builts do not have HSI's and several pilots
have
> never flown with one, but it is not because they would not love one if
they
> used it, just because the trainers they learned in did not have one.
>
> This would replace a DG, a VOR Head, a GPS annunciator, any Autopilot
> switch gear, and a backup display for the D-10 If they could do this at
the
> $2000 price point, they would sell like cordwood.
>
> So my objective it make them understand that this would be a big market.
> (are you listening Doug Medema?) Everybody pile on.
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug "I wanna a HSI" Rozendaal
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Back in August 2003 we had a similar discussion about this. It got
started after I had a conversation with Doug and the Dynon folks at
Oshkosh '03. I brought this up to them, about how they would sell like
hotcakes, and about 10 people standing around me at the booth all echoed
their agreement. But I really got the feeling that they weren't
interested, at least at the time. They seemed to be much more focused
on getting the engine monitor to market, which was a bad business move,
IMHO (easy to say, it's not my company!) The engine monitor market was
then and is now, pretty much saturated with poducts, but what the world
needs is a good, all electric, low cost HSI. Maybe now that they've got
the engine monitor nearly done they will take another look at this.
Another problem (in my view) which came up, is that many people chimed
in with their "wish lists" of features which rivaled a Sandell HSI for
five times the price. Just give me the basics, show the needles, 60 deg
and 360 views would be nice, maybe beacon lights and some GPS data
fields. People were asking for interfaces to stormscopes, TCAS etc.
You want all that, buy a Sandell. I don't want the low cost unit to get
too gold-plated.
I know Dynon monitors this list- come on guys, we're still here waving
fistfulls of $$$!
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ D-10
Milwaukee WI
do not archive
Doug Rozendaal wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Sounds like the old "New Years Eve" problem where idiots signal in the new
year by firing into the air. Did you ever wonder how many people are hurt in
the middle east during weddings, rallies and funerals where AK-47's are
fired vertically. (Guess that's better than on the horizontal plane).
KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Orlando RV forced landing
> "The FAA says the hydraulic failure and the bullet hole are unrelated.
> Here's another interesting bit: the hole is on the top the wing. They
> speculate someone fired a deer rifle in the air and the bullet struck the
> plane at "low energy" on the way down."
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| Subject: | Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
I think it will be too late for em to catch that market. The G3 will be
first out of the gate and with any luck, and Ill take it, it will be
ready for prime time.
For those that have not seen the BMA G3, you need to go take a peak at
it off their website. Im gonna be an early adopter in my S8. I was an
early adopter of the Dynon and this little gismo has twice the feature
set. If they hose me you folks will be the first to know. If there are
any issues, Ill be sure to pass them on.
First issue is BMA took a deposit for a January ship date and have
recently slipped it to Early Feb.. I am patient. But I am not silent.
Mike
S8, glueing canopy skirts
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Point
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Back in August 2003 we had a similar discussion about this. It got
started after I had a conversation with Doug and the Dynon folks at
Oshkosh '03. I brought this up to them, about how they would sell like
hotcakes, and about 10 people standing around me at the booth all echoed
their agreement. But I really got the feeling that they weren't
interested, at least at the time. They seemed to be much more focused
on getting the engine monitor to market, which was a bad business move,
IMHO (easy to say, it's not my company!) The engine monitor market was
then and is now, pretty much saturated with poducts, but what the world
needs is a good, all electric, low cost HSI. Maybe now that they've got
the engine monitor nearly done they will take another look at this.
Another problem (in my view) which came up, is that many people chimed
in with their "wish lists" of features which rivaled a Sandell HSI for
five times the price. Just give me the basics, show the needles, 60 deg
and 360 views would be nice, maybe beacon lights and some GPS data
fields. People were asking for interfaces to stormscopes, TCAS etc.
You want all that, buy a Sandell. I don't want the low cost unit to get
too gold-plated.
I know Dynon monitors this list- come on guys, we're still here waving
fistfulls of $$$!
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ D-10
Milwaukee WI
do not archive
Doug Rozendaal wrote:
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| Subject: | Minimum Realistic Field Length |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
Scott,
If you haven't bought the property yet, one consideration for a longer strip
might be whether or not you want other pilots to land at your field. Of
course, a short field could also screen out some of the pilots you may not
want to visit you. Does your mother-in-law fly an RV? :)
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: tx_jayhawk@excite.com [mailto:tx_jayhawk@excite.com]
Subject: RV-List: Minimum Realistic Field Length
--> RV-List message posted by: "" <tx_jayhawk@excite.com>
All, Since the plane is still in storage while I look for a home (building
withdrawl), I have been evaluating several airpark possibilities. I would
be interested in hearing from others what they believe the minimum safe
runway lenth would be. I know it is highly subjective, but I would like to
hear from others with experience. For reference...the plane with be a 7A,
O360, with FP prop. Also, there is no real obstacles to think of (never
heard of the Kansas Rockies), and field elevation is approx 1000'. Would a
1400' runway be doable? I know it would be on the short side (go-around if
things don't look just right), but would it be safe? Thanks for the help,
Scottwww.scottsrv7a.com
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>>>"The FAA says the hydraulic failure and the bullet hole are unrelated.
Here's another interesting bit: the hole is on the top the wing. They
speculate someone fired a deer rifle in the air and the bullet struck the
plane at "low energy" on the way down."
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but realy what are the chances of
someone first being stupid enough to fire a gun near an airport. Second
having that bullet go up and come down striking this fellows plane. The
fellow not seeing the hole on his walk around or seeing it and deciding to
fly with the hole anyways. Then just coincedently has an unrelated failure
that causes a forced landing.
This is under the assumption that the bullet hole happened while the plane
was on the ground. Don't get me started on the odds of a "random" bullet
going up then coming down on the top surface of a moving plane all in the
same flight that the fellow has an unrelated failure.
Either this guy is the most unlucky fellow in the world or someone isn't
giving all the facts.
If this fellow indeed has a low velocity bullet hole impact on the top
surface of his wing, then I would think the more likely possibility was that
some yahoo took a shoot at him while he was doing aerobatics. By the time
the bullet reached the plane at altitude it slowed down to the point of "low
velocity"
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Looks like 2 RV-6's in the incident report over the weekend. Get the N
number and do a Google search to find the owner.
http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/A_0118_N.txt
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
I have a BM Sport G3 on my bench at home... Sweet little instrument!
I have a little write up on the new panel I am installing in my -8A here:
http://www.rv8a.com/panel/panel3/index.htm
I will take some pix of the Sport and post them tomorrow...
I will also probably be upgrading my engine monitor to the Dynon unit as
soon as they come out...
-Bill VonDane
RV-8A - Colorado
www.rv8a.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
I think it will be too late for em to catch that market. The G3 will be
first out of the gate and with any luck, and Ill take it, it will be
ready for prime time.
For those that have not seen the BMA G3, you need to go take a peak at
it off their website. Im gonna be an early adopter in my S8. I was an
early adopter of the Dynon and this little gismo has twice the feature
set. If they hose me you folks will be the first to know. If there are
any issues, Ill be sure to pass them on.
First issue is BMA took a deposit for a January ship date and have
recently slipped it to Early Feb.. I am patient. But I am not silent.
Mike
S8, glueing canopy skirts
Do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Point
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Back in August 2003 we had a similar discussion about this. It got
started after I had a conversation with Doug and the Dynon folks at
Oshkosh '03. I brought this up to them, about how they would sell like
hotcakes, and about 10 people standing around me at the booth all echoed
their agreement. But I really got the feeling that they weren't
interested, at least at the time. They seemed to be much more focused
on getting the engine monitor to market, which was a bad business move,
IMHO (easy to say, it's not my company!) The engine monitor market was
then and is now, pretty much saturated with poducts, but what the world
needs is a good, all electric, low cost HSI. Maybe now that they've got
the engine monitor nearly done they will take another look at this.
Another problem (in my view) which came up, is that many people chimed
in with their "wish lists" of features which rivaled a Sandell HSI for
five times the price. Just give me the basics, show the needles, 60 deg
and 360 views would be nice, maybe beacon lights and some GPS data
fields. People were asking for interfaces to stormscopes, TCAS etc.
You want all that, buy a Sandell. I don't want the low cost unit to get
too gold-plated.
I know Dynon monitors this list- come on guys, we're still here waving
fistfulls of $$$!
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ D-10
Milwaukee WI
do not archive
Doug Rozendaal wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@myawai.com>
Unless the is an F-16 flying CAP in the area.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: JOHN STARN
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Did you ever wonder how many people are hurt in
the middle east during weddings, rallies and funerals where AK-47's are
fired vertically. (Guess that's better than on the horizontal plane).
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
Bill,
After looking for a reasonably priced heated pitot for over a year, I
settled on this one too. Jon Johansson is making these in AU....
First thing I did was break it while mounting it on my plane! It turns out
that the inner tube is plain old 3030 thin wall, (soft) alum threaded on
each end with a 1/4" - 28 die, set for an oversized thread. (NOT a pipe
thread). I'm not sure how well this would have held up to vibration over the
long run... The inner (soft) tube broke when I bumped it after it was
mounted onto the wing.
After finding out Jon wanted almost $100 for a simple 6" threaded tube, I
made my own out of THICK walled 2020-T3 alum tube (Total cost, including the
die & die handle, was under $50!).
I am still using this modified part, but could have just as easily made
my own from a block of alum, for a lot less money. I'm very surprised that
nobody else is offering a similar unit. The heater element is a standard
Cessna part (Search the RV-List for a part number). the rest is different
size tubing (available from spruce), a milled "Bullet" node piece, and a
Cessna P/N heater element.
Also, in hindsight, once you have the basic "L" shaped part of any one of
the certified units already out there, you could easily repair/modify it to
be heated by purchasing the basic components (Tubing & heater element) and
shaping your own nose piece. this would probably be the least expensive
route....
I'm using Gretz's mounting kit....
======================================
Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <
<mailto:billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net> billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
Try this link to ACS for heated pitot only for experimental use. Part
@
10-01022 12 volt $398.00 still high but better than nothing and
better than
$900. This is the L shaped variety. Have been told that you can find
them
in aircraft junkyards for less than $100 but have had no luck.
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/homepitot.php>
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/homepitot.php
If anyone knows a reason why this would be inappropriate, please
holler as I
am planning on putting one in my 7.
Bill Schlatterer
7a QB
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| Subject: | RV's and EAA in Georgia... |
vansairforce <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Anyone have any insight into RV builders / pilots and EAA activity in and
around Evans, GA?
-Bill
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: RV's and EAA in Georgia... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "ray sheffield" <rv8a@csranet.com>
Bill,
Twin Lakes located in nearby Trenton s17 has an number of builders
rv-10, rv-9, and rv-7.
ray
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From: rv-list@matronics.com
vansairforce
Subject: RV-List: RV's and EAA in Georgia...
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Anyone have any insight into RV builders / pilots and EAA activity in and
around Evans, GA?
-Bill
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing N654PJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
In a message dated 1/18/05 1:21:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com
> >
>
> Looks like 2 RV-6's in the incident report over the weekend. Get the N
> number and do a Google search to find the owner.
>
> http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/A_0118_N.txt
>
You know......I was standing on the flight line when a RV-6 was leaving LAL
at the fly-in and made the comment 3 times that I smelled gas.......MO-gas.
The owner of the leaving RV-6 said he had just stuck the tanks and that
must be it...I asked if he was running car gas and he said yes.
I can not tell you who he was or what the tail number was
but I think he had his dog and wife with him.......sure hope this was not the
plane that never made the runway and if it was he had a leak and should be
glad
there was no fire.
The owner listed to the RV 6 ....N654PJ is Paul Pajak.
RV-4
RV-8 QB....wings
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL.
My Home Page
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Kevin wrote...
Don't get me started on the odds of a "random" bullet
going up then coming down on the top surface of a moving plane all in the
same flight that the fellow has an unrelated failure.
From what's been described so far, I'd say the odds were 100%.
Chuck
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| Subject: | Passing fire codes for hangar homes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
HELP. I purchased a lot at an airpark several months ago and just found out the
county has adopted a new fire code restricting the size of the hangar to 2000
sq ft. I had planned on a 3000. Im wondering if anyone has dealt with this
and knows of a way around it. I believe its a fire code issue so maybe a fire
wall or sprinkler system would fit the bill. One of the subdivision requirements
is that the hangar must be attached to the house.
tia
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
150 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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| Subject: | Passing fire codes for hangar homes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>>>HELP. I purchased a lot at an airpark several months ago and just found
>>>out the county has adopted a new fire code restricting the size of the
>>>hangar to 2000 sq ft. I had planned on a 3000. Im wondering if anyone
>>>has dealt with this and knows of a way around it. I believe its a fire
>>>code issue so maybe a fire wall or sprinkler system would fit the bill.
>>>One of the subdivision requirements is that the hangar must be attached
>>>to the house.
Don't call it a hanger, Call it a 4 car garage with a large single opening
door. . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>>Kevin wrote...
>>Don't get me started on the odds of a "random" bullet
going up then coming down on the top surface of a moving plane all in the
same flight that the fellow has an unrelated failure.
>>From what's been described so far, I'd say the odds were 100%.
>>Chuck
Hmm another possibility, someone shot directly at the cockpit and the prop
struck the bullet deflecting it down onto the top of the wing. . .
Anyways all seems way to weird to me. . .
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| Subject: | Edmonton Alberta |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
I'm up in Yellowknife at the moment and I'm coming down to Edmonton, Alberta
for my once in 6 month visit. I'll only be in town this weekend Friday
Morning 21st - Sunday 23rd.
I'm still in the deciding stage and have yet to actually see a live project.
I would love to meet any RV builders and see their works in progress.
I would also love to get up for a flight and would be more than happy to pay
for a ride along in any RV, weather and time permitting.
So if you are in or around the Edmonton area and are in the process of
building or have a flying RV and have some time to spare this weekend please
send me an E-mail to kevinsky18@hotmail.com
Kevin
Yellowknife, NT, Canada
RV-8 Wanna Be Builder
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: jim & terri truitt <jimteri1@earthlink.net>
Highly inprobable random incidents do occur. If I didn't personally know the woman
in the following story, I would have thought "no way".
A few years ago, in my former home town of Evansville, Indiana, a woman who lives
next door to my former residence, went outside with her two dogs near midnight
on New Years Eve. As she bent over to pick up one of the dogs, a bullet hit
her in the back of her neck. No rounds fired in the neighborhood. Doctors
and police officers surmise from the angle of the impact and the relatively shallow
penetration that a stray bullet, fired into the air by some moron, hit
her on it's fall to earth.
She was knocked down and was hospitalized, but has recovered.
I, too, have often wondered about stray rounds fired in the middle east.
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| Subject: | Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 01/18/2005 4:58:32 PM Central Standard Time,
shempdowling@earthlink.net writes:
HELP. I purchased a lot at an airpark several months ago and just found out
the county has adopted a new fire code restricting the size of the hangar to
2000 sq ft.
>>>>
Build 2 "hangars", insist one of 'em is a "garage" 8-)
Do not archive (and I sure wish more listers would DO JUST THAT, DAMMIT!!!!)
Mark
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| Subject: | Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
I'm chimeing!!!!!! Bring the HSI on or at least tell me it's being worked
on.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit
13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg
do not archive
>From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Dynon ramblings & Electronic HSI
>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:50:01 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
>All,
>
>I have flown the latest and greatest version of the D-10 software for about
>20 hours or so and I now have the confidence in this version to rip out my
>vacuum system. I have been holding back because I could have easily
>pulled
>out the Dynon and replaced it with my vacuum gyro in moments. But with 18
>months of experience and now that we have a good stable software package I
>am ready to make the leap into the land of no vacuum pump. Great Work
>Guys!!!!!
>
>That means the DG will go as well. I won't miss it because I have not even
>been setting it lately because I don't use it at all.
>
>Now for what I want. I want Dynon to build an HSI. Not a big fancy one
>with moving maps and waypoint displays and all that, just a simple HSI that
>encorporates GPS switching and ennunciator functions, Approach, enroute
>and
>OBS modes for GPS. An RMI feature would be nice also but not essential so
>you could display both VOR and GPS info simaltaneously. Also a feature
>that
>would switch the autopilot driver. VOR, GPS-NAV, GPS Track or Heading bug.
>
>I've seen the Blue Mountain product is coming, and maybe that is the
>answer,
>but I really like the form factor, the customer service, and the display of
>the Dynon. I am not sure the folks at Dynon understand how many people
>would buy an HSI. Most home builts do not have HSI's and several pilots
>have
>never flown with one, but it is not because they would not love one if they
>used it, just because the trainers they learned in did not have one.
>
>This would replace a DG, a VOR Head, a GPS annunciator, any Autopilot
>switch gear, and a backup display for the D-10 If they could do this at
>the
>$2000 price point, they would sell like cordwood.
>
>So my objective it make them understand that this would be a big market.
>(are you listening Doug Medema?) Everybody pile on.
>
>Tailwinds,
>Doug "I wanna a HSI" Rozendaal
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 01/18/2005 5:41:36 PM Central Standard Time,
jimteri1@earthlink.net writes:
I, too, have often wondered about stray rounds fired in the middle east.
>>>
A co-worker of mine was nailed in his lower leg by a bullet on an Earthbound
trajectory a couple of years ago- great story for the Grandkids, but about 20
inches away from "No Grampa". Lot's of morons out there, dammit...
do not archive - Mark
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| Subject: | Passing fire codes for hangar homes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ted Gauthier" <TGauthier@comcast.net>
The first thing you need to find out is "What code"? Don't be afraid to
ask. Are they using the "International Fire Code" or "NFPA", you also
need to know what version. 2000 or the 2003 code. What you are talking
about sounds like a local code or a subdivision or property rule. Ask
for help by getting a copy of the section they are referencing. Explain
that you are a citizen and not a builder who will know how to look up
the code.
Many of the larger hangers can get around a problem by adding a
sprinkler system, however that may cost you more than you have planned.
I would suggest going right to the top guy. Go knock on the Fire
Marshals door and talk to him. I think that you will find that many
things can be resolved if you talk it over. Go see him in person.
I can't tell you how many times I have seen things get changed after
someone has been very involved finding out the real code. Not a rule
that someone has made. We call them shirt pocket rules and they change
all the time. If it is not in the code, you will have a strong case.
Sometimes an inspector will tell you something that he has been doing
for years or he believes to be true only to find out it is not in the
code. The inspector may not back down, but his boss has the authority
to over rule. Go see the Fire Marshal, when you see him you can tell
him that you are just trying to get a better understanding. Note: In
some jurisdictions the "Building Director" may be the authority so you
may also have to talk to him. I would start with the Fire Marshal.
Good luck,
Ted Gauthier, RV-6
Fire Marshal, and DAR
West Bloomfield Michigan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Williams
Subject: RE: RV-List: Passing fire codes for hangar homes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>>>HELP. I purchased a lot at an airpark several months ago and just
found
>>>out the county has adopted a new fire code restricting the size of
the
>>>hangar to 2000 sq ft. I had planned on a 3000. Im wondering if
anyone
>>>has dealt with this and knows of a way around it. I believe its a
fire
>>>code issue so maybe a fire wall or sprinkler system would fit the
bill.
>>>One of the subdivision requirements is that the hangar must be
attached
>>>to the house.
Don't call it a hanger, Call it a 4 car garage with a large single
opening
door. . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Sustare" <tonys@lancair-kits.com>
Wow, for what it's worth, when I was staying with a friend in Arizona
learning to fly, a teenage girl was hit in the head while she was
swinging in her back yard with her parents. It killed her.
Do not archive
>>> jimteri1@earthlink.net 01/18/05 03:39PM >>>
--> RV-List message posted by: jim & terri truitt
<jimteri1@earthlink.net>
Highly inprobable random incidents do occur. If I didn't personally
know the woman in the following story, I would have thought "no way".
A few years ago, in my former home town of Evansville, Indiana, a woman
who lives next door to my former residence, went outside with her two
dogs near midnight on New Years Eve. As she bent over to pick up one of
the dogs, a bullet hit her in the back of her neck. No rounds fired in
the neighborhood. Doctors and police officers surmise from the angle of
the impact and the relatively shallow penetration that a stray bullet,
fired into the air by some moron, hit her on it's fall to earth.
She was knocked down and was hospitalized, but has recovered.
I, too, have often wondered about stray rounds fired in the middle
east.
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| Subject: | new years celebration |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
This past new years, a man was killed by a bullet fired into the air.
Posice were called and confiscated the weapon .... cops put two and two
together (imagine that!) and arrested the celebrant. Orlando FL, I think
Linn
jim & terri truitt wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: jim & terri truitt <jimteri1@earthlink.net>
>
>Highly inprobable random incidents do occur. If I didn't personally know the
woman in the following story, I would have thought "no way".
>A few years ago, in my former home town of Evansville, Indiana, a woman who lives
next door to my former residence, went outside with her two dogs near midnight
on New Years Eve. As she bent over to pick up one of the dogs, a bullet
hit her in the back of her neck. No rounds fired in the neighborhood. Doctors
and police officers surmise from the angle of the impact and the relatively
shallow penetration that a stray bullet, fired into the air by some moron, hit
her on it's fall to earth.
>She was knocked down and was hospitalized, but has recovered.
>I, too, have often wondered about stray rounds fired in the middle east.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
This is the interesting one, avionics problems?
Dave
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 889JB Make/Model: SR22 Description: SR-22
Date: 01/15/2005 Time: 1723
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Destroyed
LOCATION
City: COCONUT GROVE State: FL Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT REPORTED AVIONICS PROBLEMS AND CRASHED INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE
ONE PERSON ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, COCONUT CREEK, FL
Scott Bilinski wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>Looks like 2 RV-6's in the incident report over the weekend. Get the N
>number and do a Google search to find the owner.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
You will need a firewall on the house side. You might put a firewall between
to sides of the hanger or use a firewall to separate the work area from the
plane storage area. Or have a hangar on each side of the house.
But I would talk to the county building department before you set up a
design and ask them for their input. They will have to approve your design
before you build anyway.
Anything that I might write may not meet with their approval.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Passing fire codes for hangar homes
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>
> >>>HELP. I purchased a lot at an airpark several months ago and just
found
> >>>out the county has adopted a new fire code restricting the size of the
> >>>hangar to 2000 sq ft. I had planned on a 3000. Im wondering if anyone
> >>>has dealt with this and knows of a way around it. I believe its a fire
> >>>code issue so maybe a fire wall or sprinkler system would fit the bill.
> >>>One of the subdivision requirements is that the hangar must be attached
> >>>to the house.
>
>
> Don't call it a hanger, Call it a 4 car garage with a large single opening
> door. . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Olson <lolson@doitnow.com>
>Wow, for what it's worth, when I was staying with a friend in Arizona
>learning to fly, a teenage girl was hit in the head while she was
>swinging in her back yard with her parents. It killed her.
Her name was Shannon.
There is now a law in AZ called "Shannon's Law"
that makes random firing into the air a felony
Go figure,,,
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| Subject: | Garmin iQue 3600a |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hey Gang!
Garmin has entered the palm top gps flight information arena with this
product.
http://www.garmin.com/products/iQue3600a
Ideas and Opinions please
Jim in Kelowna
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott VanArtsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
>I'm not one for conspiracy theories but realy what are the chances of
>someone first being stupid enough to fire a gun near an airport.
Come on out to Oakdale, Ca. I'll introduce you to some of the local
hunters. :-) They do fire their guns near the airport and we politely
ask them to leave. No planes have been shot down thus far. I'll keep
my fingers crossed.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Van Arts Consulting Services
3848 McHenry Ave
Suite #155-184
Modesto, CA 95356
209-986-4647
www.rivetbangers.com
Now with email!!
How you want it,
When you want it.
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin iQue 3600a |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bud Newhall <RV-6@comcast.net>
I think this really blows.
I just bought an iQue 3600 for my car and now they come out with this.
I should have waited a little longer.
It works great in the car.
And it's small enough you can use when you're walking from the airport
trying to find that $100 hamburger.
Or put it in the rental car with the street level maps.
You can plug the mp3 player into the intercom for in-flight music.
The iQue3600a has more internal memory but you will still probably want
an expansion card.
Two thumbs up.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net
<mailto:jjewell@telus.net>>
Hey Gang!
Garmin has entered the palm top gps flight information arena with this
product.
http://www.garmin.com/products/iQue3600a
Ideas and Opinions please
Jim in Kelowna
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| Subject: | Re: Passing fire codes for hangar homes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
The problem is that they are calling it a garage, which dictates the max sq
ftage.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Passing fire codes for hangar homes
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>
>>>>HELP. I purchased a lot at an airpark several months ago and just found
>>>>out the county has adopted a new fire code restricting the size of the
>>>>hangar to 2000 sq ft. I had planned on a 3000. Im wondering if anyone
>>>>has dealt with this and knows of a way around it. I believe its a fire
>>>>code issue so maybe a fire wall or sprinkler system would fit the bill.
>>>>One of the subdivision requirements is that the hangar must be attached
>>>>to the house.
>
>
> Don't call it a hanger, Call it a 4 car garage with a large single opening
> door. . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing clamav-milter version |
0.80j on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
Could be...
There have been several Sirrus accidents that have
been blamed on water in the pitot-static system. For
some reason these things seem to be prone to this...
Skylor
RV-8 QB Under Construction
--- Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol
> <bj034@lafn.org>
>
> This is the interesting one, avionics problems?
> Dave
> do not archive
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 889JB Make/Model: SR22
> Description: SR-22
> Date: 01/15/2005 Time: 1723
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal
> Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Destroyed
>
> LOCATION
> City: COCONUT GROVE State: FL
> Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> ACFT REPORTED AVIONICS PROBLEMS AND CRASHED INTO A
> RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE
> ONE PERSON ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, COCONUT
> CREEK, FL
>
>
> Scott Bilinski wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
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> >Looks like 2 RV-6's in the incident report over the
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin iQue 3600a |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
Jim Jewell wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>Garmin has entered the palm top gps flight information arena with this
>product.
>http://www.garmin.com/products/iQue3600a
>
>
Just my opinion, I may be wrong...
I think for the money, the Garmin 96C is a better deal, and $400
cheaper. $699US instead of $1099US (list prices).
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap96c/
Or, if the larger screen is a must, the Garmin 196, despite having a
monochrome screen, is an excellent unit at $799US (list).
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap196/
People make a big deal about colour, but I think the screen on my old
Garmin GPSIII was excellent, as it was simple, *very* high contrast, and
very readible in all lighting conditions.
Personally, I bought a Garmin 76CS (still comparing list prices, $549US,
but I paid $649CDN).
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap76cs/
The 76CS had a couple of interesting features that I found worthwhile
(copied from the Garmin website):
- Barometric sensor with automatic pressure trend recording
- Elevation computer provides current elevation, ascent/descent rate,
minimum/ maximum elevation, total ascent and descent, average and
maximum ascent and descent rate (not mentioned on the website is "glide
ratio to destination").
The first is useful for predicting upcoming weather trends, and the
second neglects to mention the most interesting feature, which is "glide
ratio to destination". Your engine has quit, and you're now deadstick.
You hit "nearest airport" on the GPS and get distance, bearing, etc.
All good, right? How do you know if you can make it? With the 76CS, if
you know your airplane's best glide ratio, you know instantly if that
airport is an option.
However, the 76CS is *NOT* an aviation GPS, and as such does not have an
aviation database. I fly with a hardcopy of the CFS (Canada Flight
Supplement), which gives me airport info like runways, frequencies,
etc. In addition, I have a database of waypoints of Canadian airports
that I keep up-to-date myself as data changes, that I can upload to the
GPS. The GPS gives me the navigational aids, I take care of looking out
for airspace and finding frequencies on my own. I find this to be an
ideal (and economical) arrangement.
If Garmin made the 96 model with a barometric altimeter included, I
would have considered it very seriously, but right now, for me, the 76CS
does what I want.
Hope this helps!
-Rob
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gregory Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Yeah, stupidity knows no bounds, either by geography or interest group. The
guy in the hangar behind me (a pilot and hangar owner) has been seen laying
on his back, firing his gun straight up in the air ON THE AIRPORT. Go
figure.
Greg
>
> >I'm not one for conspiracy theories but realy what are the
> chances of
>
> >someone first being stupid enough to fire a gun near an airport.
>
> Come on out to Oakdale, Ca. I'll introduce you to some of
> the local hunters. :-) They do fire their guns near the
> airport and we politely ask them to leave. No planes have
> been shot down thus far. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
re: new years' eve random shooting-
I recall reading in a book about WW2 that, on Okinawa, about 50-75
soldiers were shot to death on V-J day, from troops celebrating by firing
their weapons.
The person who related the story spent the night in his foxhole with his
helmet on, while spent rounds dropped all around him.
Scott in Vancouver
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim & terri truitt" <jimteri1@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Orlando RV forced landing
> --> RV-List message posted by: jim & terri truitt <jimteri1@earthlink.net>
>
> Highly inprobable random incidents do occur. If I didn't personally know
> the woman in the following story, I would have thought "no way".
> A few years ago, in my former home town of Evansville, Indiana, a woman
> who lives next door to my former residence, went outside with her two dogs
> near midnight on New Years Eve. As she bent over to pick up one of the
> dogs, a bullet hit her in the back of her neck. No rounds fired in the
> neighborhood. Doctors and police officers surmise from the angle of the
> impact and the relatively shallow penetration that a stray bullet, fired
> into the air by some moron, hit her on it's fall to earth.
> She was knocked down and was hospitalized, but has recovered.
> I, too, have often wondered about stray rounds fired in the middle east.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Orlando RV forced landing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Warning, Warning......Kinda off RV direct subject. humor ahead, List Police
DELETE NOW.
Maybe he'll try that on a No Wind day and solve the problem. Would that be a
sillycide or suicide ?
USMC saying "this is my rifle & this is my gun, this is for killing & this
is.................". I assume it was his "rifle" not his gun.
Do Not Archive KABONG 8*)
> Yeah, stupidity knows no bounds, either by geography or interest group.
> The
> guy in the hangar behind me (a pilot and hangar owner) has been seen
> laying
> on his back, firing his gun straight up in the air ON THE AIRPORT. Go
> figure.
>
> Greg
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--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
So, the recovered pressure drives the air through the cooling fins. In
other words, it increases the velocity of the air. However, there is some
loss, and the full initial velocity can not be regained.
Wouldn't it be better just to retain the initial velocity? This is what
a well-designed plenum does.
Jim Hasper - RV-7
Giving new meaning to the term "slow build"
Franklin, TN
Do not archive
PSPRV6A@aol.com wrote:
It's easy to get this all backwards. When high velocity air comes in
thru the cowling "nostrils" it enters a diffuser section where the
velocity drops
and the STATIC PRESSURE RISES! This static pressure is what drives the
air
down through the cylinder fins. It is also this pressure which forces
air
though the oil cooler.
The tradeoff from dynamic to static pressure is not total as there
remains a small velocity component.
This is why the upper cowling is shaped like a diffuser, to recover
pressure from the relative velocity of the incoming air.
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| Subject: | Re: Leather jacket restoration |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
I bought my jacket in 1986 and had only treated it with conditioner once
or twice. It had been at least 6 or seven years since the last time and
it was looking faded and rough and felt dry and stiff. I used Lexol
Cleaner and Conditioner (2 separate products) on it and it came out
looking like new (well, maybe just worn enough to give it a real
distinguished 50-mission look). It took me about an hour to apply and
remove the cleaner and about a half hour to apply the conditioner. I
found the best price (about $6 each for 16 oz. each of the cleaner and
conditioner) plus $6.50 shipping at Equine Health Products
(www.equine-health.com).
Jim Hasper - RV-7
Giving new meaning to the term "slow build"
Franklin, TN
Do not archive
> --> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl <diehldon@comcast.net>
>
>>
>> A friend has given me an old leather flying jacket. The leather is dry
>> &
>> stiff. Is there a preferred method of restoring the leather?
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